How THE WALL Conquered Solar Opposites

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Johnny 2 Cellos

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@thegreenvoltage
@thegreenvoltage 2 жыл бұрын
I’d be down for a full spin-off series based on The Wall but, at the same time, I like how it’s a sub-plot to the main show. It leaves you wanting more and wondering what’s next.
@VNKNOWN_TX
@VNKNOWN_TX 2 жыл бұрын
Kinda like how in American Dad they would randomly keep having a subplot about rogers turd lol I always found that more interesting than the actual show. This is done far better than that but still cool
@igormachado2194
@igormachado2194 2 жыл бұрын
The thing is, The Wall is not funny. They don't even try to be funny. It is literally shaped up like a Walking Dead kinda post apocalyptic/humans having to rebuild society kind of scenario. The reason why it works is because it is a show inside a show. It's funny because there is all these epic things happening and they don't matter at all for the protagonists. If they did a spin off, it would lose this aspect and become just another regular animation series.
@VNKNOWN_TX
@VNKNOWN_TX 2 жыл бұрын
@@igormachado2194 hundred percent agree. It’s funny cause it’s in the middle of a whacky show.
@twinphalanx4465
@twinphalanx4465 2 жыл бұрын
It also allows for them to make more drastic decisions about the story because if people dont like it the solar opposites give them a big buffer to write. A banger turn around. Ita harder to do that time and time again
@ScottDieken
@ScottDieken 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah me too if they could spin the wall out of the main show, so i don't have to watch.
@Shmungus72
@Shmungus72 2 жыл бұрын
Solar opposites is possibly one of the most underrated shows I’ve ever seen. I also really like the long running joke of the episode being titled something that has almost nothing to do with the wall plot
@darkithnamgedrf9495
@darkithnamgedrf9495 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah in the wall episodes you can sometimes see outside the wall, the main gang actually doing whats in the title
@yuarentlucky
@yuarentlucky Жыл бұрын
@@darkithnamgedrf9495 I NOTICED THAT, it's genuinely so clever.
@milesupshur9614
@milesupshur9614 2 жыл бұрын
I like that they sometimes refer to their lives in the outside world as 'The before-fore times' just like the post apocalyptic scavengers did in Rickmancing the Stone. A nice little nod.
@andrewschulz661
@andrewschulz661 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! Before the boom boom!
@kobold7466
@kobold7466 2 жыл бұрын
its a mad max reference, and Tim is the only one that says that. Tim had a habit of quoting and imitating movies.
@DuskLegend
@DuskLegend 2 жыл бұрын
@@kobold7466 i’m pretty sure other people said “i used to ____ in the before times” too
@darkithnamgedrf9495
@darkithnamgedrf9495 2 жыл бұрын
@@DuskLegend not the "before fore" times, which is what this whole comment chain is about
@zeallust8542
@zeallust8542 Жыл бұрын
@@DuskLegend Good job showing off your complete lack of reading comprehension ability.
@HorseCrazyGirl1000
@HorseCrazyGirl1000 2 жыл бұрын
Rick and Morty wasted so much time talking about the serial vs episodic debate (like actually breaking the forth wall to do it, not even in a funny meta commentary way) and then Solar Opposites finds the perfect way to do both using The Wall plot running along side the episodic hijinks without having to comment on the debate at all, utterly genius.
@MrGameadd1ct
@MrGameadd1ct 2 жыл бұрын
See I don't think it does well. Like as people are saying, its a show that is a b plot in its own show. Though I do agree the whole meta debate is dumb and needs to stop. No one really cares, but they need to pick a lane.
@matthewshin1248
@matthewshin1248 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like the rick and mortys equivalent is the citadel. They just havent spent enough time developing it for it to be as interesting as the wall.
@Santoryu90
@Santoryu90 2 жыл бұрын
I think people give those episodes too much hate
@ewwpoorpeople5684
@ewwpoorpeople5684 2 жыл бұрын
A big part of Rick and Morty IS the debate. Rick's story of the week mentality is a gigantic part of his character and you wouldn't get a lot of the fun stories without it. Like, Pickle Rick was built entirely within the conversation
@HorseCrazyGirl1000
@HorseCrazyGirl1000 2 жыл бұрын
@@ewwpoorpeople5684 but we also got the train story circle episode which I would argue us one of the worst episodes of TV ever created. Also the last finale it was clear the writers are like here's your serial conclusion to Rick's back story, and if you don't like this 10 min fan service you can basically fuck off. Idk it just seems like they are actually openly hostile about the fact that anyone cares about the serial aspect of the show instead of just being content to make good enjoyable TV that can do both. Maybe signing up for 7 seasons all at once or whatever they supposedly did with Adult Swim was their downfall.
@judeconnor-macintyre9874
@judeconnor-macintyre9874 2 жыл бұрын
The Wall plot allows the show to do a serial story in a episodic sci-fi comedy. Solar Opposites has the best of both worlds in my opinion, able to deliver the highs of a serial story, and the laughs of episodic stories.
@stephenlyon1358
@stephenlyon1358 4 ай бұрын
3:44
@d-maproductions9175
@d-maproductions9175 2 жыл бұрын
It’s crazy how this show has the A plot: korvo and terry B plot: yumulak and Jessie C plot: the wall which slowly becomes more relevant D plot: the pupa which will eventually become super important E plot: the stuff with the silver cops
@lolnowwhat
@lolnowwhat 2 жыл бұрын
eh i didn't really care about the silver cop plot line, the weakest subplot imo
@Praecantetia
@Praecantetia 2 жыл бұрын
@@lolnowwhat it did give some shattering context to the whole intro tho.
@hunterkoons2008
@hunterkoons2008 2 жыл бұрын
@@lolnowwhat it's only had a couple episodes so far. Season 4 could do a lot with it.
@initailo1536
@initailo1536 2 жыл бұрын
​@@hunterkoons2008 yeah and it ses like they're not even good, the we'll probably be seeing more of the godl cops and how they are and how they fight the silver
@Kometheus
@Kometheus 2 жыл бұрын
This season sucked. Show is super mid.
@stephaniewilliams6756
@stephaniewilliams6756 2 жыл бұрын
I enjoy the Solars more than the Wall but yet never manage to skip the wall stuff because now Im invested in Cherie the Benihana waitress' journey
@indiscreetbeat
@indiscreetbeat 2 ай бұрын
Dog she was not a waitress, she was a *cook*
@lacintag5482
@lacintag5482 2 жыл бұрын
Ironically, my favorite episode this season had nothing to do with the Wall or the space-lore. It was the line episode. I just thought it had some of the funniest writing. It also made me like Korvo and Terri, who were my least favorite characters up to that point, despite being the titular main characters.
@kokichiouma2
@kokichiouma2 2 жыл бұрын
Terry
@DrGandW
@DrGandW 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite was the stories about the other teams because I had some serious laughs. I was watching while on vacation with my brother sleeping in the room so it was really hard not to laugh
@parv.aggarwal
@parv.aggarwal 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@fl3m1n9o4
@fl3m1n9o4 2 жыл бұрын
great episode
@Chigger
@Chigger Жыл бұрын
The writers probably wondered what the most boring thing could be to watch characters do, and then they made it interesting, probably to challenge themselves. I loved the line episode.
@michaelmayo9823
@michaelmayo9823 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think the wall is "better" I just think it's a way for them to tell the serious type of story they are good at, but also gives them freedom to do whatever wacky stuff with the solar opposites that isnt held back by an overarching narrative, like evil Morty stuff in Rick and morty
@dandywaysofliving
@dandywaysofliving 2 жыл бұрын
@@Cazz8203 any story u want is not the story they need
@Handlelesswithme
@Handlelesswithme 2 жыл бұрын
I think honestly Solar opposites is too similar to Rick and Marty in a lot of aspects even if it has a coherent set up The wall though is basically Honey I shrunk the kids if it was written by H.P. Lovecraft
@pinkpugginz
@pinkpugginz 2 жыл бұрын
@@Handlelesswithme I think solar opposites is a bit lazy. still better than r/m. korvos voice is just rick. I think its pretty good still
@DuskLegend
@DuskLegend 2 жыл бұрын
Overarching narratives don’t hold back “wacky stuff”. Just look at centaurworld
@NeonNijahn
@NeonNijahn 2 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of how the Orville was the vehicle for Seth MacFarlane to tell legitimately great Star Trek stories without having the pressure of having to cater to an audience that was primed for that type of content. Further, it enables a more novel audience to develop that may have never "got into" the Star Trek universe to find themselves as proto-fans without even knowing it.
@omegavolta
@omegavolta 2 жыл бұрын
They gotta do a whole episode showing what happened between Tim entering the wall and the duke rising to power. Like when Tim entered the wall it was basically a post-apocalyptic wasteland and that would be cool to see
@NeonNijahn
@NeonNijahn 2 жыл бұрын
They could totally show the Dukes original rise while establishing the true mega villain of the show. Those working in the shadows, manipulating everyone for their own gain - the proto-catholic church. Showing the formation of the church and their backstory they could actually present the Duke further as a decent guy who was manipulated and corrupted by the Church in order to establish the power dynamic we see every season while insulating the Church from any real repercussions or blame.
@NeonNijahn
@NeonNijahn 2 жыл бұрын
And this would justify revisiting the past in flashbacks in the shows canon rather than just shoehorning in the story into the show.
@bruhmomentonemillion
@bruhmomentonemillion 2 жыл бұрын
i love how the wall can change and evolve so fluidly it keeps it fresh & doesn't depend on past ideas 2 carry th show but still ties up like all loose ends
@DainnGreywall
@DainnGreywall 2 жыл бұрын
The wall contains my favorite Solar Opposites joke so far. The "Don't you dare touch my penis" reoccurring joke is by far my favorite, especially the payoff.
@jasonguarnieri4127
@jasonguarnieri4127 2 жыл бұрын
Considering how many subplots the latest season got sidetracked in, it's becoming more and more clear that the Solar Opposites themselves aren't interesting enough to carry their own show. The finale does suggest at least some kind of paradigm shift is coming, but I guess we'll have to wait and see if it pans out.
@fl3m1n9o4
@fl3m1n9o4 2 жыл бұрын
they are definitely interesting enough to carry their own show, and they do.
@MaxiemumKarnage
@MaxiemumKarnage 2 жыл бұрын
Hard disagree, both subplots could only exist in another series
@REXae86
@REXae86 2 жыл бұрын
L take
@darkithnamgedrf9495
@darkithnamgedrf9495 2 жыл бұрын
idk Solar opposites kinda feels like a web of interconnected stories, kinda like a cinematic universe, just not taken so seriously
@Bluebox3
@Bluebox3 2 ай бұрын
The solar opposites could hold an ok show on their own but I think the wall and the other subplots make something much better than the sum of its parts
@gohonkyourself790
@gohonkyourself790 2 жыл бұрын
I feel you missed tim saying that the collectors cup was fake and had no actual lead paint. Its implied he was poisoned by someone. I think it was the sister who killed the other nun. Shes making a catholic power grab.
@hotungwan5789
@hotungwan5789 2 жыл бұрын
The fake burger king cup bit was in Tim's head before he died, I'm not sure if that's how the writers tried to fool us with
@gohonkyourself790
@gohonkyourself790 2 жыл бұрын
@@hotungwan5789 perhaps. But to me it raised questions. Yeah, it happened in his head, however, in his dream, he stated that he had it painted. He believed his dream was happening. Why would he lie about the cup even if it were a dream? If that cup were poisonous, wouldnt the duke have succumbed to it? Or at least shown symptoms before the rebellion?
@_booth7992
@_booth7992 2 жыл бұрын
@@gohonkyourself790 That was part of his dying delusion wasnt it?
@gohonkyourself790
@gohonkyourself790 2 жыл бұрын
Whoever was 3rd comment, utube axed it.
@Dat-Doomba
@Dat-Doomba 2 жыл бұрын
@@gohonkyourself790 oh wow that does change some things. IF it is the nun that poisoned Tim, another reason why she would do it would probably be just killing Tim early so that either Sherrie doesn't need to kidnap him or that the nun can push Sherrie to be the new leader by usurping Tim's rule
@The_Masked_0ne
@The_Masked_0ne Жыл бұрын
I’m going to be honest I’m really invested into the wall storyline so much that I skip over the other parts
@ianovenden984
@ianovenden984 3 ай бұрын
It’s not perfect bc it’s a playlist of shorts but there’s a guy that posted it nearly in full to yt and appears to be updating it to this day. Prolly the best way to watch for free rn without having to do all the skipping (tho it’s missing the occasional segment). There’s also at least one Dropbox with a super cut floating around the internet but I haven’t been able to find it for a min.
@walak6832
@walak6832 2 жыл бұрын
The death of Molly was one of the saddest thing i saw in media in a long time, weird to think that a mouse dying had more impact on me then for example half the marvel crew from Thanos. This world is incredible, so much possibilities, if they had a show "the wall" it probably would be my favorite
@wolfeflambe
@wolfeflambe 2 жыл бұрын
It’s up there with fry’s dog in Futurama
@Shitfuckt
@Shitfuckt 2 жыл бұрын
I agree, that was sad af.
@pinkpugginz
@pinkpugginz 2 жыл бұрын
hated that part
@DuskLegend
@DuskLegend 2 жыл бұрын
I felt more from that moment then half of the big “sad moments” in giant AAA media going back years
@mattjindrak
@mattjindrak 2 жыл бұрын
I don't even remember Molly
@makadise
@makadise 2 жыл бұрын
The problem with solar opposites is that it feels like the "b" plot to its own show
@boomer310
@boomer310 2 жыл бұрын
This
@harshalshah4685
@harshalshah4685 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. That Rainer Wolfcastle meme applies here as well.
@wizardmongol4868
@wizardmongol4868 2 жыл бұрын
@@harshalshah4685 which meme?
@harshalshah4685
@harshalshah4685 2 жыл бұрын
@@wizardmongol4868 the "That's the joke" meme.
@KW-tx6er
@KW-tx6er 2 жыл бұрын
Because it is, like Phineas and Ferb were b story and pery and doff were the A story
@characterwells
@characterwells 2 жыл бұрын
A companion piece for the Opposites would be great. This was so well done!
@thesupremeoverlordofice121
@thesupremeoverlordofice121 2 жыл бұрын
I would LOVE to hear you talk about season 3! There just isn't enough solar opposites content- and it's one of my favorite shows. The finale made me very hopeful for what was coming next
@UnsourcedWallRadio
@UnsourcedWallRadio 2 жыл бұрын
In Tim's dream he mentions that the cup was actually a replica he had someone in the Wall paint. Now this might be the ravings of lead poisoning, but given what the Nuns later do to Cherie, it makes me wonder if the Nuns were secretly poisoning Tim all along.
@roiking2740
@roiking2740 2 жыл бұрын
yeah they had a motive, tim had a plan to escape. they had the means, they are the primary healers and would have accesses to him water and food supply. and they would have had the opportunity.
@butwhy6543
@butwhy6543 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve never watched Solar Opposites but I like to keep up to date on the Wall storyline it’s just so good
@fl3m1n9o4
@fl3m1n9o4 2 жыл бұрын
you could just watch it
@legeekessayiste7015
@legeekessayiste7015 3 ай бұрын
same
@dollzo
@dollzo 2 ай бұрын
Fr I saw some clips of solar opposites and it just looks like every other shitty adult cartoon
@teaganhill4649
@teaganhill4649 2 жыл бұрын
The wall is the best part, I found myself dragging through some of the new episodes just to get to the wall
@peterversionone
@peterversionone 2 жыл бұрын
If the Solar’s do leave earth like Korvo wanted to, will they change everyone in the wall back, or will Yumyulack and Jessi take the whole wall with them
@bimbodoki
@bimbodoki 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like it’s more in character for them to just abandon the whole thing.
@peterversionone
@peterversionone 2 жыл бұрын
But the children and the pupa enjoy The Wall
@kingofnonation5843
@kingofnonation5843 2 жыл бұрын
I thought they recently said their surnames was opposites.
@lilcc58
@lilcc58 2 жыл бұрын
They will most definitely leave them there
@BigMikeMcBastard
@BigMikeMcBastard 2 жыл бұрын
@@kingofnonation5843 In Jessie's dream during the line episode, Back-of-the-head Guy proposes to Jessie by calling her "Jessie Opposites". So I think yeah, as a sort of 4th wall joke their last name is Opposites.
@TheFManInk
@TheFManInk 2 жыл бұрын
I just want Cherie and Pezley live happily ever after as mother and daughter
@jordand5555
@jordand5555 2 жыл бұрын
"Pezley" the baby was birthed in a pez dispenser lmfao
@Danktank02
@Danktank02 2 жыл бұрын
“Cherie” the mother has her own day and it’s written everywhere lmfao
@strikingbrittney
@strikingbrittney 2 жыл бұрын
Solar Opposites is really the best adult animated series currently airing and I really, really enjoy every aspect of it. The Solar Opposites themselves are wonderful and more believable as a family than the Smiths in R&M, and the Wall is nail biting drama that i never know what it’s gonna throw at me, which is incredible
@leostreet8046
@leostreet8046 2 жыл бұрын
I love solar opposites but I think the best adult animation currently on the air is Bob's Burgers
@filipbabovic8474
@filipbabovic8474 2 жыл бұрын
@@leostreet8046 No
@englishmailbox8830
@englishmailbox8830 2 жыл бұрын
@@leostreet8046 on air right now no but back in seasons 2-8 definitely
@astrea4020
@astrea4020 2 жыл бұрын
Yea absolutely not. Not when there are series like Primal, Arcane, and Bobs Burgers airing.
@oofjeff3735
@oofjeff3735 2 жыл бұрын
Calling it the best is definetly a stretch lmao
@jamesswearengin5182
@jamesswearengin5182 2 жыл бұрын
Speaking of the Wall I think they might be making a D Plot with the Metal Lanterns Parody. I'm curious how they juggle all these plots or if they will use the Lanterns Parody as a break from the Wall while they come up with more ideas for it.
@jacoblopez6251
@jacoblopez6251 2 жыл бұрын
More excited for every wall scene over the solar opposites scenes honestly
@achimdemus-holzhaeuser1233
@achimdemus-holzhaeuser1233 4 ай бұрын
Can we just acknowledge how Epic those Historic Paintings in the Background are ?
@chinesecabbagefarmer
@chinesecabbagefarmer 2 жыл бұрын
This video popped up in my recommended feed a few days ago, and I just now finished binging Solar Opposites because the title and thumbnail of your video enthralled me. I regret nothing, and that was an absolutely wonderful experience to have. Thanks, Johnny.
@Puddspanker
@Puddspanker 2 жыл бұрын
yeah after watching the first hand full of wall episodes, you just get pumped up and can't believe what you just watched. you want more. luckily season 3 did just that. me and my GF happily binged it.
@billywestern206
@billywestern206 2 жыл бұрын
YES this bro
@SBGamer30
@SBGamer30 Жыл бұрын
The Wall subplot is definitely my favorite subplot in any animated series. Its just amazing like you said about the world building and character progression. We don’t need a full show of its own because it leaves you wanting more. Cherie is my favorite character on the show and she’s in a subplot 😂. Also, people have to give Solar Opposites the credit it deserves. We are talking about a show where it has so much going on but the writers does an amazing job balancing it out. The Silver cops they just introduced was great and can’t wait to see what they do with that.
@peterstoric6560
@peterstoric6560 Жыл бұрын
One of the things I really like about the wall is that it knows how to balance out comedy with the more serious aspects of the show. Some of the most effective jokes, in my opinion, simply being from the absurdity of what’s happening compared to the serious nature of the characters. Like how when Tim kills people with instant shell in season 2, it’s at first kind of humorous to hear them screaming about chocolate but mere seconds later it is also seen how effectively brutal it is.
@Thetom5000
@Thetom5000 2 жыл бұрын
this season was probably my favourite out of all of them, really found its footing imo
@Mooncupcake83
@Mooncupcake83 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly having the Wall plot broken down like this made me appreciate it more 😂 good video 😁 I would love to hear your take on the rest of the show, it’s nice to see you enjoy both sides of it. Personally, I think the Solar’s whacky comedy compliments the darker story telling of the Wall really well. Also I like that in season three it seems that the more serialised approach in the Wall is actually starting to appear in the Solar’s story lines too, one example being the focus on Terry and Korvo’s budding romantic relationship.
@bemfu554
@bemfu554 2 жыл бұрын
I have a feeling the creators made the wall plot first and the higher ups were like "make the aliens more centric"
@Randomaccount9470
@Randomaccount9470 11 ай бұрын
"Make rick and Morty, but not rick and morty"- that's not a diss it's literally what executives do Eg in EA -call of duty to be medal of honor Destiny to b halo Etc
@BensyBens
@BensyBens 2 жыл бұрын
Finally a solar opposites video!!!! And yeah i would like to see more videos about solar opposites. This season was so good now we know more about the home planet, the pupa and the new silvercops story inside a story.
@slopyardjoe
@slopyardjoe 6 ай бұрын
i like that most of the scenes don't show the glass wall because its a literal 4th wall
@vizoredchris
@vizoredchris 2 жыл бұрын
The Duke can never be forgiven for what he did to Molly. Ringo, however can be acknowledged for his sacrifices
@cryptid-artha
@cryptid-artha 2 ай бұрын
I am not going to lie, The Wall subplot stole the show so much. I found myself legit invested in the world and characters in the wall, and it was actually the reason I kept coming back to the Solar Opposites. The Silver Cops subplots are pretty fun too, but straight up. I'd watch an entire series based on the Wall (And the Back Yard) How did something created as a parody end up so surprisingly good????
@samuelsyme6010
@samuelsyme6010 2 жыл бұрын
i love both the silver cops and wall subplots.i cant wait to see what happens in the next season.
@tastytango4841
@tastytango4841 3 ай бұрын
Solar opposites is kinda the animatics of the era with how many different shows it packs in
@bobjhon7391
@bobjhon7391 2 жыл бұрын
I would absolutely love to see something like this be it a "The Wall" spin off or something totally unique but done similarly, where tiny people have to live off the drip feed of giant versions of stuff given to them over time.
@desiderium3243
@desiderium3243 2 жыл бұрын
With season three I felt like I was watching three shows at once and loved every part of it. Honestly it felt like every minute of my time watching it was spent doing something productive.
@QsPracticalNonsense
@QsPracticalNonsense 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I wasn't the only one that enjoyed the subplot of the wall moreso than the actual show lol. The writers did a genuinely amazing job.
@exar4444
@exar4444 Жыл бұрын
honestly, i love Solar Opposites for pretty much everything. i love the comedy, the characters (i think my favorite's terry but a favorite's tough to choose), the dynamics (my favorite is between korvo and terry i think), all the plots, and the way that the show uses all those plots to leave you hanging and constantly wanting more. the show's incredibly underrated, in my opinion. or maybe i'm just easily pleased, who cares? i'd say watch it. and DEFINITELY stick around for the B plot (the wall), when that plot got introduced was when i really got convinced that this show was GOOD. and by god is it good. watch Solar Opposites, i guarentee from my experience that it'll be worth your time.
@Dustaroo
@Dustaroo 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you are still going with your videos, been off and on watching you since your early Bojack stuff and it's always a nice watch that gets me thinking. Let's Go Johnny 2 Cellos
@EOD423
@EOD423 2 жыл бұрын
I’d never thought I’d be emotionally invested in a sub plot to a cartoon but season 3 is bananas
@JamMasterKae
@JamMasterKae Жыл бұрын
it’s so weird suggesting solar opposites because im like “yeah the show is great but there’s this show within the show that’s mind blowing”
@aprettycoolname4839
@aprettycoolname4839 2 ай бұрын
The best thing about time rule is that the results speak loud enough to justify his horror
@mr.context3872
@mr.context3872 2 жыл бұрын
The wall series has more character development, twists, and moral debates than some of the best movies
@Frosty_tha_Snowman
@Frosty_tha_Snowman 9 ай бұрын
"The Wall" is the best plotline in any adult animation I've ever seen.
@OddRot7272
@OddRot7272 2 жыл бұрын
this has convinced me to go watch this show so... good job
@mrbread9496
@mrbread9496 Жыл бұрын
I just realised that cheire's adventure in the backyard is basicly grounded
@Gbord-777
@Gbord-777 2 жыл бұрын
Solar Opposites along with the wall and the one off episodes in honesty feel a lot more creative than modern day Rick and Morty, and has a youthful energy, while getting you hooked , my biggest concern is when will the creativity spark out into lame jokes and dull one off parody work such as Rick and Morty has or will it keep it's energy and value against the test of time
@pinkpugginz
@pinkpugginz 2 жыл бұрын
no it will stay good. the reason why Rick and morty sucks now is because Roiland is no longer on the writing staff.
@Gbord-777
@Gbord-777 2 жыл бұрын
@@pinkpugginz well that was certainly a bad decision, Harmon I feel has some good writing but needs roiland, they also hire new writers too often
@fl3m1n9o4
@fl3m1n9o4 2 жыл бұрын
i feel like it'll keep its energy, it doesn't really feel like it's changed at all tonally or creatively since season 1, or if anything it's got better. i think season 3 is the best season so far, so i'm super excited about the future of the show
@kosatochca
@kosatochca 2 жыл бұрын
@@pinkpugginz at the same time, Solar opposites are still somewhat shallow in gravitas and development, though the latter seasons have addressed this problem. Harmon brought weight to the Roiland’s wackiness, so their script was both insanely funny and captivating. Solar opposites just doesn’t deliver that much for now
@johnnyvirtues
@johnnyvirtues 2 жыл бұрын
You can tell it was personal for cherie just from her tone when she talks about it and how she manipulates halk
@peepytime
@peepytime 2 жыл бұрын
The storybuilding this season was amazing! I would absolutely love to see a video on it.
@anthonyharraden4709
@anthonyharraden4709 2 жыл бұрын
I just watched “The Wall” in a playlist format just to watch it as is. I’m pulled in. I like it. I have to give solar opposites as a show another chance tho. But The Wall was a great story/show/C-plot.
@josephhoffman3995
@josephhoffman3995 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, the wall is the only thing that keeps me coming back to the series.
@JCDay
@JCDay 2 жыл бұрын
I really thought the wall was just a one time thing but it did not and I love that it became an epic subplot
@rosecity_chris
@rosecity_chris 2 жыл бұрын
While it's not the best show ever, I really appreciate Solar Opposites feeling a lot more like the first few seasons of R&M than R&M does now.
@ratbrain6991
@ratbrain6991 2 жыл бұрын
Seems like Justin Roiland finally cracked the code for having a show be Evergreen AND serialized content in one show, fun considering how Rick and Morty (specifically Rick) is adamantly against serialized content
@mustafaali3333-q1m
@mustafaali3333-q1m 2 жыл бұрын
It hermon fault not roiland
@pinkpugginz
@pinkpugginz 2 жыл бұрын
@@mustafaali3333-q1m yup agree. thats why early rick and morty was so good and now its ruined.
@NaughtMax
@NaughtMax 2 жыл бұрын
I started watching solar opposites because I saw some wall clips, and I honestly do enjoy the show, but I’m honestly kinda surprised the wall hasn’t been totally spun off into it’s own show with how popular it is. Although I’m not sure if that might end up hurting the quality of the wall plot line, and honestly I was also hoping we’d see a time skip for the wall, because I also had the thought of how the replicants would reach to seeing a kid in the wall (considering no kids is their one rule and they have no way of knowing the kid was born in the wall), I also genuinely hope Halk isn’t dead, I hope Cherie goes to a similarly dark place as the duke in order to save herself and her daughter by like idk burning it all down escaping, and sealing the hole, leaving Halk to try to pick up the pieces now feeling a similar betrayal and guilt that Cherie experienced in season 1. Like if he is still alive and does return AFTER Cherie “evil” arc that would play off the previous plot thread of his guilt about not saving everyone, saving the wrong people, and being the only person that could’ve stopped the church and vouched for Cherie since he was the only person outside the church that knew the truth and was the only other hero the wall had. It’s fascinating seeing the wall basically going through every type of government, anarchy, to a dictatorship, to a false utopia, to a democracy, now to a religious rule and potential religious monarchy, and potentially a post apocalyptic civilization if things turn out the way I think they’re going. But I also kinda think there are plenty of options to explore in the future like potential involvement from the replicants or the pupa, how despite seemingly creating a Utopia Tim didn’t clean up the lower levels and left an entire class of people in muck, there’s just so much that I’m so curious about and can’t wait to see explored. Really crossing my fingers they can keep that level of quality up, it contrasts so well with the dumb sci-go fun of the rest of the show, but I also hope they find a good way to resolve it before it starts to lose its magic
@dragonblast417
@dragonblast417 Жыл бұрын
27:30 in the exact same moment when he said "the power to the entire wall was cut out" we had a blackout and I was just left alone in the darkness with my phone the only thing illuminating my soundings
@ISOCZAR
@ISOCZAR 2 жыл бұрын
The wall is my favorite part of the show the whole story and plotline is really well done
@jocelynfisher3174
@jocelynfisher3174 Жыл бұрын
10:11 The Molly scene always gets me too 😢 she was such a good girl
@imtherealtammygonna6216
@imtherealtammygonna6216 2 жыл бұрын
They creators actually said that they originally wanted to do a show with just the wall but Hulu didn’t approve it but they approved the story with the aliens so the creators basically trolled the fuck out of by including the the wall story as the B plot in the aliens story and making it the most important and giving it the most energy. Lol genius level trolling.
@Lighting_Desk
@Lighting_Desk 2 жыл бұрын
I've been watching this on Disney plus and patiently waiting for each episode. Love the series and can't wait to see what they've got coming up.
@Kelontro117
@Kelontro117 2 жыл бұрын
The way tim dreamed the ending SHOULD of been the ending
@Johnny2Cellos
@Johnny2Cellos 2 жыл бұрын
It made no sense lol
@MaxiemumKarnage
@MaxiemumKarnage 2 жыл бұрын
Minus him sort of flying off into the sunset, yeah.... I feel like they've set themselves up for failure with the current plot trajectory as it is so insanely similar to Bioshock 2 that it's crazy - and I don't think it's a reference, but rather unintentional plagiarism
@_booth7992
@_booth7992 2 жыл бұрын
Really good breakdown Johnny! Solar opposites and Primal are definitely my two favourite shows rn. Definitely recommend the latter if you havent checked it out!
@Orkunkadunk
@Orkunkadunk 2 жыл бұрын
The best c plot dude in like any show ever
@emm6101
@emm6101 2 жыл бұрын
This season for me was the best so far. Curious about the silver cops too and if the guy survived
@johnbradley7294
@johnbradley7294 2 жыл бұрын
I enjoy the wall plot it is the only reason I even watch polar opposite, however, that last part where the church took over, to the point they can imprison cherie now, even though she became a kinda messiah figure herself, came out of left field. It feels like conflict for conflict sake and does not follow what was already set up before.
@Johnny2Cellos
@Johnny2Cellos 2 жыл бұрын
Hard disagree, they explicitly showed that the Church wanted a leader they could control while Cherie was upending the Wall’s government and political system. THey were not happy with what Cherie was doing, it’s all right there
@Born_Stellar
@Born_Stellar 2 жыл бұрын
polar opposites
@eileensnow6153
@eileensnow6153 2 жыл бұрын
No? They did a great job of setting up the church’s betrayal, I found myself getting nervous every time she handed Pezlie over to the Bowinians. Maybe you missed some hints, but the writers foreshadowed their intent _hard._
@gabrielarechavaleta7653
@gabrielarechavaleta7653 2 жыл бұрын
@@Johnny2Cellos true and I definitely agree the set up is there. My only gripe is that she was arrested in front of the people who elected her and no one seemed to care which seems a little contrived. Also I think her being a legendary historical figure in the wall’s history up until this point would give her word a little more weight when she’s yelling to a crowd of people that this is her baby. The entire crowd ignoring her and ignoring the news of the oldest nuns death does seem totally dumb and I didn’t like it. But I do like the added drama
@LowestofheDead
@LowestofheDead 2 жыл бұрын
@@gabrielarechavaleta7653 Yeah, they could've arrested her in secret, and convinced everyone that she needs to be quarantined for a mosquito disease from the lower levels.
@BlitzDemonGamer3032
@BlitzDemonGamer3032 3 ай бұрын
I'd still do think The Wall Sub plot is the best part of The Show of Solar Opposites
@StevenOsborne-x6c
@StevenOsborne-x6c 3 ай бұрын
Oh yea easily. I’m sure it’s the only reason a worth coming back for a good amount of people lol
@matthewterlaga3022
@matthewterlaga3022 2 жыл бұрын
Johnny, you forgot to mention that there were some people (at least two) who left the Wall through the hole, I really want to see what happens to them next season, did they get killed right away? Are they still out there? Will they come back?
@murderman8578
@murderman8578 2 жыл бұрын
I hope you talk about the Comedy in Solar Opposites since it'll be interesting to talk about
@magnusm4
@magnusm4 4 ай бұрын
Only know any of this from your video. Just you introducing Molly I knew "they're gonna die". And it still hurts just knowing it from this recap. Poor mouse.
@fandomonium3789
@fandomonium3789 2 жыл бұрын
I noticed that for season 3, there is no "throw-away" concepts. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. You can't launch an annoying neighbor into space without him getting picked up by the Green Lantern Corps. Whatever didn't come back in this season will come back in a later one. The algorithm, for example, is absolutely going to come back. Maybe not in season 4, we went a whole season without Mouse Guy, but it will be brought back around full circle eventually.
@mr.skippy4898
@mr.skippy4898 2 жыл бұрын
Didn't "mouse guy" appear in season 3? I could be mistaken.
@JD-iu6rv
@JD-iu6rv 2 жыл бұрын
It is amazing how much this c story completely overshadowed the whole show
@AppleBeesBarAndGrillMenu
@AppleBeesBarAndGrillMenu Жыл бұрын
I'm still working on a 3 hour marathon of only clips of the wall. No solar opposites, just the wall scenes. It's like it's own movie, just getting the copyright for it to post it on youtube, but I can inv and send to "friends" on youtube even without the copyright yet
@stodnon3779
@stodnon3779 2 жыл бұрын
definitely wanna see a video on the non-wall side of the season
@Aa-dn1oq
@Aa-dn1oq 2 жыл бұрын
The reveal that the nerd avalanche guy saved someone who later became a serial killeris just ripped straight from the plot of Monster
@joshuagraham2843
@joshuagraham2843 2 жыл бұрын
i fee bad for the guy loses his mouse and later becomes mosquito king as a villain
@CartiForPresident
@CartiForPresident 3 ай бұрын
Fun Fact: Not only did Thai video turn 2 years old today, but The Wall trailer for Season 5 just dropped
@voleNTV
@voleNTV 2 жыл бұрын
Holy smokes. I didn't put it together until you covered it in this video, but I'm wondering if the scene between Molly and the guy is a reference to a similar scene that happened in Lost. When Charlie was on the ship behind a Bulkhead and they had to watch him drown through the little port hole.
@pinkpugginz
@pinkpugginz 2 жыл бұрын
I bet it was.
@meowmachine9147
@meowmachine9147 2 жыл бұрын
That part of Lost was hard to watch. I was sad to leave Charlie behind.
@voleNTV
@voleNTV 2 жыл бұрын
@@meowmachine9147 I agree! When the show first started I stupidly judged him based on his habit. But his character development and flashbacks through the seasons really make him into a fantastic guy, and a terrific character. Lost is my favorite TV Series lol
@bigoreoenergy3123
@bigoreoenergy3123 2 жыл бұрын
Out of all the things from this show, the Wall is my best favorite sub-plot and this is what gets me into it. It felt like I'm watching a cinematic masterpiece and I seriously can't wait for season 4. I knew they're going to bring season 4 since you know Solar Opposites is one of the most promotional shows on Hulu. They even mentioned in the episodes including Hulu Land.
@cicabeot1
@cicabeot1 2 жыл бұрын
I have definitely been loving Solar Opposites more than Rick and Morty as of late. Even without the Wall. But I knew The Wall would make for a great subject for a video from you, and I'm glad you fulfilled that need.
@JustSomeDog
@JustSomeDog Жыл бұрын
im glad that Justin being fired does not affect the wall since he doesnt do any writing for the wall
@nighteye4042
@nighteye4042 2 жыл бұрын
I think Pezlie is the next character we'll end up following tbh, her discovery that her mom is really alive will probably start it
@IntangirVoluntaryist
@IntangirVoluntaryist Жыл бұрын
i LOVED the wall episodes, that was the best part of the show, it blew me away
@sebbychou
@sebbychou 2 жыл бұрын
lmao they actually did the whole "it was a dying person's fantasy denial dream" bs
@yami_the_witch
@yami_the_witch 3 ай бұрын
The wall 100% feels like the solution to what the writers felt was a problem with rick and morty, it does serialized story but it's entirely unrelated to the "main characters" so the writers can do whatever the hell.
@rgmoses2189
@rgmoses2189 2 жыл бұрын
I loved and still do love the wall plot and it acted as the sole reason I kept returning to this show but after watching the dream episode in season 3 I truly believed it could and should have ended as a satisfying ending to the wall followed by some tied up loose ends after and an episode of the opposites figuring out the horrors they put these people through. It then could've been worked a round and replaced by the silver cops story line as so far it's coming off as very interesting but I just don't want the best part of this show to be milked for everything it's good for before having its dead corpse being further exploited like shows such as SpongeBob and family guy
@mxbunnycatter
@mxbunnycatter Жыл бұрын
I kind of want to see a compilation of season 4 now, as I kind of like your compilations of everything ❤️
@bZman
@bZman 2 жыл бұрын
Its smart writing. Especially in its cruelty. If a show or movie makes you feel for a character, that is rare. Its a funny but also hard to watch show because of that fact. The fact the leads of the wall episodes makes you want to make the typical leads die in the worst ways imaginable. Because they forced random people into hell for a whim. Its why I hate solar opposites and hope the ending is them dying in the most gory and drawn out ways imaginable. It did its job and made me hate the “gods” who could make you live in an aquarium.
@bZman
@bZman 2 жыл бұрын
Im still done w it tho. Rick and morty can be deep but still be fun. This is just cruel. I like deep shit. But this is malicious in its intent
@smithyMcjoe
@smithyMcjoe 2 жыл бұрын
My heart was not ready for Molly. I used to have a little brown mouse called Rizzo when I was but a wee lad, she was very well trained and would sit with me for ages on my shoulder, I'd leave a few sunflower seeds or pumpkin seeds on my shoulder for her. She would voluntarily run up my arm if I put it in her tank.
@TomboTime
@TomboTime Жыл бұрын
My favorite thing about the Wall is how it tricks the audience in a way that exposes us for our implicit biases. I.E: Making us think Tim was the central protagonist of the wall when he never truly was. Sure, the premise of the society within the wall is established when Tim is put in there, but that doesn't make him the protagonist. That just makes him part of the setup. The story TRULY begins when Cherie is thrown in, because it's from there that we actually start learning about what the wall society is and how it works via Tim's exposition dumping. Also, if you really stop to think about it, Tim's plans tend not to work that well with the exception of Cherie's interventions. When the squad was trying to escape after they stole that Playboy they almost got caught and would have been if not for Cherie's Benihana skills. Tim literally tried to initiate his own escape from jail but was suddenly saved by Cherie. Then, finally, when Cherie wanted to give everyone in the wall a chance to escape, Tim betrayed her so he could hold on to his power and perceived holiness. From then on out it's Cherie's quest for revenge that is the focal point of the story. The show essentially criticizes it's audience by making Tim a sort of "red herring protagonist". He's not the hero everyone plays him up to be: he's a loser who got hooked on his power fantasy and wasn't prepared to let that go for the sake of everyone else. He rationalizes it by saying people could get eaten by owls, but at the end of the day he wasn't going to give up a life where he was essentially the biggest winner in the world. It has his life in the wall that made him everyone's favorite and got him laid by a super hot waitress. The "Tim Saga" is the wall's commentary on male power fantasy. It exposes the male viewer's narcissism for enjoying fiction that's so self flagellating: fiction that supposedly puts you in the shoes of the coolest most badass dude in the world who everyone either respects or falls to. In the end, Tim not only wasn't the most important person in the wall, he was a monster for believing that he was. And when you look back on everything you realize that he was never as competent or dependable as the narrative would have you believe, and that's by design. This is further reflected in the episode with his death: a dream sequence where the entire time you're watching it you can sense that something is off because now more than ever everyone around Tim, Cherie especially, is WAY too eager to congratulate him. Then the episode gets extra weird and that's when you realize that none of this really happened. It was just Tim's hallucinations. He was merely fantasizing about power up until the very end. Cherie was always the true protagonist. The story truly got started when she entered the wall. The heroes never progressed in their mission without her intervention. And we didn't see that she was the main character up until Tim's betrayal . . . .because the writer's knew that we are predisposed to think that the man is the protagonist while the woman, no matter how competent she is, is the man's prize. Truly brilliant.
@jenniferhenquinet3247
@jenniferhenquinet3247 3 ай бұрын
Tim is basically either you die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain
@frankunodostres473
@frankunodostres473 2 жыл бұрын
is was awesome! I'm glad the wall story isn't over and the trailers just faked us out. the situations of the family and the spacecops are also very interesting and leave many options open. about the wall, I think there were a biiiit too many ex machinas in this season but of course a brilliantly entertaining time. the ending is possibly the most shocking and hopeless yet but it only makes me excited for the next season! btw I realized I should never watch an entire season in one sitting. it's better to watch 1 episode a day. or 2 if they are direct sequels.
@rogerriveroll6324
@rogerriveroll6324 2 жыл бұрын
And now we are getting the Silver Cops sub-plot, Man i really love Solar Opposites, so many stories well told
@ringkunmori
@ringkunmori 2 жыл бұрын
To this day I remember the names of the characters in the wall, but I do not recall what the names of the aliens are.
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