Even Greenpeace Says “Most Plastic Simply Cannot Be Recycled.”

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John Stossel

John Stossel

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@tadroid3858
@tadroid3858 Жыл бұрын
My Dad was a chemical engineer in the petrochemical business in the 50s-80s. He called it wish-cycling. They wish it could be recycled.
@N8_R
@N8_R Жыл бұрын
Plastic is recyclable, it's called thermal depolymerization. It's the same process as cracking crude oil, breaking long chain carbon molecules into short chain, aka oil and gas. But our society won't use this technology because it would make drilling obsolete before our existing oil rigs break even.
@jaehongsong4904
@jaehongsong4904 Жыл бұрын
@@N8_R You would need a shit ton of plastic to use it for oil. And not even profitable. For it to be profitable crude oil will have to cost at least 3 times what it costs right now. You know what happened in the world last year when oil price went through the roof
@jaydenwilson9522
@jaydenwilson9522 Жыл бұрын
@@jaehongsong4904 and we can just burn it and filter 98% co2 lol Bjorn Lumberg for the win!!!!!
@aymanhawari2589
@aymanhawari2589 Жыл бұрын
@@N8_R this I said turn plastic into oil. We make plastic from oil. It's easy to change. But nooooo. Glad someone else gets it
@N8_R
@N8_R Жыл бұрын
@Jaehong Song I see a shit ton of plastic in this video. And to say it's not profitable, that is a specious assertion at best. Where are you citing this 'three times the cost' idea? What heuristic data do you base that claim on? And of course the technology is not at an industrially scalable state of development, since banks and corporations have not put any R&D into it. And I ride a bicycle, so mostly Ive noticed food prices go up.
@cw1044
@cw1044 Жыл бұрын
As a metallurgist, I will say that if you recycle any one thing as a consumer it should be aluminum (really any metal, but aluminum is most common for average households). It’s one of the few things that we can recycle almost infinitely, then takes less energy to recycle than it does to make from ore. It’s the one item I will go out of my way to make sure it gets recycled. I consider paper in a landfill to be beneficial as a good source of biomass 😊.
@TheNewRobotMaster
@TheNewRobotMaster Жыл бұрын
Does recycling batteries do anything good? Batteries are one of the things I recycle because I was led to believe that we wouldn't have to purchase as many rare metals from China if we recycled batteries.
@ep4169
@ep4169 Жыл бұрын
Not coincidentally, aluminum cans are one of the few things that you can actually get money for in many places.
@jonpatterson7211
@jonpatterson7211 Жыл бұрын
CW, I understand glass is pretty high on the list of recyclables. What's your take?
@cw1044
@cw1044 Жыл бұрын
@@TheNewRobotMaster Recycling batteries is good mainly because they contain heavy metals, carcinogens, sulfuric acid, etc (depending on the type of battery), which will leak out in a landfill and contaminate the ground water. The extra benefit of recycling the NiMH batteries and other rechargeables, is that it does prevent the need to harvest new materials...athough I'll be honest that I'm not as familiar with the different types of rechargeable batteries and how they are recycled.
@ep4169
@ep4169 Жыл бұрын
@@jonpatterson7211 Per my previous comment, if someone is willing to pay you money for it, then it is beneficial to recycle. If no one will pay you for an item, that means it cannot be recycled profitably, which means that the recycling process requires more inputs in time, energy, etc. than it outputs. Which means that it is actually wasteful to recycle that item.
@douglasjackson9691
@douglasjackson9691 Жыл бұрын
I remember watching pen and tellers video on BS decades ago as a kid and telling my parents recycling was mostly pointless outside our aluminum cans. This is nothing new, it's bizarre it took this long for some people to come around
@DurzoBlunts
@DurzoBlunts Жыл бұрын
Aluminum steel and glass, some paper. It should stop there and that's all
@douglasjackson9691
@douglasjackson9691 Жыл бұрын
@@DurzoBlunts does colore glass work? I mean I know what multi colored paper tends to not be recycled just wondering if glass colors cause similar issues
@forestcityfishing4749
@forestcityfishing4749 Жыл бұрын
@@DurzoBlunts Glass is pointless....it doesnt cause damage and you can make more...same deal with paper. Put it in a landfill and it helps rot everything away.
@forestcityfishing4749
@forestcityfishing4749 Жыл бұрын
I wish more people would have watched BS...that episode changed how I think about recycling...now I know its a scheme.
@toomanyaccounts
@toomanyaccounts Жыл бұрын
@@forestcityfishing4749 glass is easy to recycle.
@brianw612
@brianw612 Жыл бұрын
I worked in the plastics injection molding tooling industry for 30 years. Most plastic pellets (plastic parts come from pellets often supplied in bags) can only contain 2 or 3 percent recycled plastic. As one increases that percentage, the quality reduces. Plastic degrades every time it melts and reforms. Even at that low amount, it's mostly for very low grade junk stuff. You really don't want your expensive auto or phone parts to contain recycled plastic.
@Vagabond_Etranger
@Vagabond_Etranger Жыл бұрын
I used to believe in the lie, until around 2015, then I stop recycling. New plastic is better quality & cheaper. So why would anyone pay more money for crap?
@pretol2730
@pretol2730 Жыл бұрын
That's why they build low precision parts with recycled plastic... like trays, crude toys, etc...
@sonicpsycho13
@sonicpsycho13 Жыл бұрын
That's why you use recycled plastics for cheap consumer goods, single-use products, packing material, etc. Do you think tires get recycled into new tires? No they get shredded into mulch for playgrounds and artificial fields.
@peternorthe1912
@peternorthe1912 Жыл бұрын
The only reason I recycle and compost is because my city has a 1 bag limit per week for garbage pick up. After that it’s $2.00 a bag. I wish there were practical alternatives to having such a wasteful society. I do what I can to reduce waste but it’s hard.
@mrcsrkcrz
@mrcsrkcrz Жыл бұрын
That’s common knowledge dude no need to work in plastic injection to know this. What you apparently still don’t know is that recycled materials won’t necessarily go to the exact same use. As mentioned before for low precision or low longevity etc.
@TheInfamousCloaker
@TheInfamousCloaker Жыл бұрын
It is always ironic that so many people go "You must recycle everything" instead of "You should reduce your usage of low quality disposable crap"
@patrickbateman1660
@patrickbateman1660 Жыл бұрын
Reducing consumption? That's anti capitalist which means you are a communist
@vonithipathachai8449
@vonithipathachai8449 Жыл бұрын
But then if you're not buying as much low-quality disposable crap, you're not giving big companies as much money. It's a classic case of wanting to have your cake and eat it too.
@migueluribe4249
@migueluribe4249 Жыл бұрын
Like most of products. It does not mater any more who produce them. The ingeniers design with a lifetime programed to brake as soon as possible. Even Japanese cars are braking now like if they were from US companies.
@buddyrevell6369
@buddyrevell6369 Жыл бұрын
@Patrick Bateman no it means your thrifty. That's what made this country and the greatest generation. People used to buy things and throw them oit when there was no more use for it. Communism would just flat out prevent you from consuming due to unavailability of product. Or provide you with a product that you didn't want or need.
@samithesmooth2970
@samithesmooth2970 Жыл бұрын
Yes. Use furs instead of plastic jackets.
@ExilefromCrownHill
@ExilefromCrownHill Жыл бұрын
I recall, as a 16 yr old in 1970, that the grocery store I worked in was trying to steer customers toward plastic bags, saying the slogan, 'Save a Tree'. This was in response to doomsday predictions that we'd run out of trees on Earth by [Insert Year Here]. Due to this mass hysteria, we now have a huge problem with disposal of these accumulated plastic bags, as opinion has now swung back in favor of paper bags once again. Nobody will step forward to take responsibility for bad policy of the 1970's
@roybiv7018
@roybiv7018 Жыл бұрын
Paper bags make lousy bathroom trash can liners.
@tbone0785
@tbone0785 Жыл бұрын
@@roybiv7018 so what? Find something else. I don't even use them. They're not necessary.
@countryjoe3551
@countryjoe3551 Жыл бұрын
Leftists never take responsibility for their idiocy.
@totaldramagamer5521
@totaldramagamer5521 Жыл бұрын
@@roybiv7018 This sounds like one of those time memes... "Gravity was invented in 1665." People in 1664: *everyone floating away on flying landmasses I think we could have survived.
@totaldramagamer5521
@totaldramagamer5521 Жыл бұрын
Yep, plastic is the devil now, but several decades ago plastics were considered the environmental savior of the world... also, remember that plastic was the answer to glass bottles. It's why I don't like most environmentalists. Don't get me wrong, I hate seeing trash on the street and I loathe pollution, but there's a difference between an honest guy cleaning stuff up with his own hands and a billion dollar business asking for money for a solution that isn't even proven to work. -- What's your opinion on electric vehicles? I think at best they're overblown, but at worst, it's starting to rhyme like how plastic was lauded years ago.
@buddyrevell6369
@buddyrevell6369 Жыл бұрын
I remember probably 10 years ago recycling barrels were installed in Boston common. After a few years the local news got a tip that the "recyclables" were being thrown in the regular trash. So they went out and filmed it. Yup. The sanitation workers would open the recycling bin and into the dump truck it went. There were no facilities for recycling. But it sure made people feel good.
@zz449944
@zz449944 Жыл бұрын
When I attended college in the 1990's, the campuses all had fancy color-coded recycling receptacles for each specific item. Then, one day a building custodian said hey, watch this -- as the recycling truck arrived and dumped all of those separated items into a single compartment of the truck. He even told me that there were not actually any compartments inside the truck -- it was one bin. So all that sorting at the source is pointless -- the truck mixed everything together, to be re-sorted at a fancy, expensive facility. About the only beneficial part of the recycling industry in my state is that it employs lots of otherwise un-employable people such as those with limited mental capabilities (Retards) to sort all of those recyclables.
@bl8388
@bl8388 Жыл бұрын
I remember the local recycling did not take pizza boxes. But the leftist co-workers at my group home job swore I was destroying the world and they were saving it. I would throw the greasy group home pizza boxes in the trash and they would fish them out, and sneak them back in the recycling boxes and later chew me out. I arrived on recycling morning and got cursed out by the recycling guy who would throw the pizza boxes on the lawn if I didn't fish them all out of the big recycling barrel. It's like a cult.
@rightlyso8507
@rightlyso8507 Жыл бұрын
The same thing was done on the TV news, a long time ago, here in NYC. The dumping station (called a transfer station) was shown, where all the trash was piled. Once there was enough, it was all scooped up into trucks and taken away - along with the regular trash. But yet, not even a month ago, some neighbors were fined $50 when caught having three or four empty plastic bottles in front of their house at the curb from overnight. The fine for mixing recyclables with regular trash is $200 as another neighbor found out during this past Spring. Those neighbors didn't know how to hide those recyclables more effectively so as to avoid detection. It's all just another way to grab money. You live and you learn!
@MyMy-tv7fd
@MyMy-tv7fd Жыл бұрын
I have lived in the UK for decades and in the Rue D'Arlon, off Place de Luxembourg, Brussels, Belguim for five years. In both places I have seen 'recycling' wagons coming to empty bottle banks where people have put their bottles into separate green, brown, and clear bottle banks for collection. However, the trucks in both places just empty the green and brown and clear bottles into one large hopper, all mixed and smashed in an instant. The people who love this stupidity the most are pencil-neck bureaucrats infesting our public offices - it keeps them in a job.
@cadthunkin
@cadthunkin Жыл бұрын
@@zz449944 If true, what a horrible way to treat those who cannot defend themselves.
@gillespage5489
@gillespage5489 Жыл бұрын
I used to reuse my grocery bags as garbage bags, now I have to buy garbage bags. That is a negative gain for me and a 0 gain for the environment! I have to sort and wash my garbage for their monetary gain. Clown world.
@tardigrade9493
@tardigrade9493 2 ай бұрын
I'm 75 YO with serious pain and all these extra steps that recycling forces me to do physically HURT me.
@davidcooke8005
@davidcooke8005 Жыл бұрын
I was a carpet installer for decades, taking vanloads of old, petroleum based carpet and pad to the dump every week. I always found it amusing when people told me my juice bottle was going to make the difference.
@dmsdmullins
@dmsdmullins Жыл бұрын
I do construction and demolition. In one hour we send more stuff to a landfill than 10,000 people do in a day, a tiny fraction of copper and metal is worth even separating for recycling.
@RJT80
@RJT80 Жыл бұрын
We should be incinerating most of our trash for energy. Japan does that safely because they have no other choice. They have to actually take back the oceanfront to build new landfills so they switched to incinerating.
@cobrajet4602
@cobrajet4602 Жыл бұрын
People are Sheeple. They will do what they are told. And Greenies are disgusting, degenerate Commies. Let's "recycle" these phonies!
@gwynedd1
@gwynedd1 Жыл бұрын
They actually do make a difference. Plastic food containers make tiny pee pees and and soy boys due to phthalates. I am environmentally minded , but the hysteria and propaganda divert most of the meaningful efforts. Plastic pollution is a problem and so is mercury in the oceans but the banksters want to make $$$ trading carbon credits etc. The move to plastic syringes is another non landfill based problem for example. They cannot be heat sterilized and this leads to all sorts of bad outcomes including actually reusing dirty needles to say nothing of just more plastic waste. But most of it is driven by liberal math making it worse and propaganda.
@scottmcshannon6821
@scottmcshannon6821 Жыл бұрын
and that is why bottled water is the stupidest thing ever.
@ajfurnari2448
@ajfurnari2448 Жыл бұрын
I'm so old, I remember using paper milk cartons and glass soda bottles.... The amount of single use plastics that we've increased over the past 20 years, simply by slapping a 3-arrow imprint on it, is astounding
@RealMTBAddict
@RealMTBAddict Жыл бұрын
Glass IVs were used in hospitals.
@anderivative
@anderivative Жыл бұрын
You're so old that you are correct. Paper and glass work great. The main takeaway from this video is "recycling is dumb, stupid govt cant make me!" when it should be "The plastic lobby duped us in to thinking this shit is recyclable all for big biz profits" but that's not libertarian-loving/capitalism-loving for this crowd.
@Devils.harp.player
@Devils.harp.player Жыл бұрын
@@anderivative Not to mention plastics have been shown to have estrogen mimicking chemicals linked to low testosterone, breast cancer, and feminization. We can do without plastic.
@Zebra_3
@Zebra_3 Жыл бұрын
@@anderivative I use the green bin for personal convenience...there I said it. ♻
@McHobotheBobo
@McHobotheBobo Жыл бұрын
@@anderivative Bro facts, they're lambasting greens for ideological blindness while actively engaging in it to an even greater extent lol
@kenyongray2615
@kenyongray2615 Жыл бұрын
John is a true journalist. His "devil's advocate" style of interviewing gets his interviewee to talk. John has been outstanding for over 50 years. I saw John when he was a very young reporter for CBS in New York City and he is still the same. Tells truth. Yes, more than 50 years.
@ArtOfHealth
@ArtOfHealth Жыл бұрын
So you think he is over 70? He is doing pretty good.
@JustinHall1976
@JustinHall1976 Жыл бұрын
​@@ArtOfHealthhe's 75.
@kenyongray2615
@kenyongray2615 Жыл бұрын
@@ArtOfHealth Yes, he is. Cloer to 80 than 70. He is indeed doing well.
@jayphoneuser2538
@jayphoneuser2538 Жыл бұрын
He's right about this one, but he also lacks the courage to propose real solutions. "You can't tell people what to do". Well, somebody needs to tell everybody that we are either going to have to come up with some perfectly sustainable solutions ASAP, or else start giving up a lot of modern conveniences that are not sustainable. Anybody who chooses their own convenience over sustainability is an a whole, and sadly that is 99.9% of humans
@sirsenior1861
@sirsenior1861 Жыл бұрын
@@jayphoneuser2538 according to who, or what? This comment sounds like the same climate alarmism Stossel rails against, with no real argument, plus you didn't provide any solutions either lol. Or sources. Why do we need an immediate solution?
@penkshugar
@penkshugar Ай бұрын
This video should have way more than a million views. It should be required viewing in schools
@williemaykit7940
@williemaykit7940 Жыл бұрын
If I remember right, part of the push for switching to plastic bottles was because they were so easily recyclable. Same with paper bags to plastic bags. Save the trees. I would love glass bottles again. Everything tastes better when stored in glass vs plastic.
@robertvirginiabeach
@robertvirginiabeach Жыл бұрын
I'm so annoyed about people wanting to conserve/recycle paper to "save the trees". Nearly all paper comes from "forests" that were planted for that very purpose. The nice straight trees, all the same age/diameter, simplify/economize the process of cutting them and shipping them to the processing plant. Large quantities of tiny saplings are soon planted so the process can be repeated years later. They're as much a crop as beans, wheat or corn. There's just a longer period between planting and the harvest.
@williemaykit7940
@williemaykit7940 Жыл бұрын
@@robertvirginiabeach absolutely correct man!
@verreal
@verreal Жыл бұрын
You bought that story? It's lighter, therefore cheaper to ship. Notice I didn't say light, just lighter. A box of CDs is darn heavy.
@williemaykit7940
@williemaykit7940 Жыл бұрын
@@verreal I was a lot younger back then 😂
@jeffreyhusack2400
@jeffreyhusack2400 Жыл бұрын
​@@robertvirginiabeachBut the more trees we have = more reduced co2 from the air and trees put back o2
@autumnsun7379
@autumnsun7379 Жыл бұрын
I am 61 years old. i grew up in the 1960's and 1970's having graduated high school in 1979. i am just old enough to remember when the school had milk in small bottles that were collected at the end of the day, returned to the dairy, cleaned and refilled. i remember switched to milk cartons and plastic bags were going to save the planet by eliminating paper bags. i remember the huge trash bags the school would have hauled away to be put in the dump and not returned to the dairy for cleaning and reuse. and plastic bags are now a bane to society.
@mrstacyj9496
@mrstacyj9496 Жыл бұрын
did you save your bottle caps? me too. I miss little bottles of milk ...
@migueluribe4249
@migueluribe4249 Жыл бұрын
And products were made to last wile now they are programed to brake so you have to keep consuming what could last a lifetime. This is the mayor contribution to world polution.
@skylark4901
@skylark4901 Жыл бұрын
I'm with ya, turning 60 soon, it was save the trees! I mention a minute ago how I remember milk being delivered in glass bottles and we would put the empties out and like you say, they would be washed, things made way more sense back them! All around!
@DS-gv5fs
@DS-gv5fs Жыл бұрын
Glass. Can be recycled...containers reused. And it is old school...like me. 🤣
@hermesmcclintok
@hermesmcclintok Жыл бұрын
I think a lot when I go to the grocery store I wish I could bring reusable containers and just take the stuff home in those.
@bobjoatmon1993
@bobjoatmon1993 Жыл бұрын
I have done a lot of things and once I worked at a government grant project researching recycling of household garbage. We spent more time shut down cleaning the plastic bags out of the machinery than running. It broke down to one hour running, 5 hours clearing. Plastic gets wound up in the various rollers (conveyor belt, crushers, and especially the shredders) and actually from the pressure bonds to all the other plastic. We used small pneumatic chainsaws (12" with tiny chains) to cut the thick bonded (it would get 1 to 1-1/2 thick on the rollers and solid, not a bunch of film layers) and had to swap them out frequently because the plastic dulled the chain teeth quickly. The unsorted garbage piled up and they were taking it to the landfill anyway. The wet garbage was supposed to be dried and burned to dry the next wet garbage but the engineers had to put in oil tanks and fuel the fire that way because the dryed, burning garbage didn't dry the new garbage enough... Then they couldn't get the pollution down from the smoke of the burning dryed- wet garbage (wet garbage is food scraps and paper) and the stack scrubbers NEVER functioned right. It was a $80 million project and only ran a year, total failure and they shut it down and scrapped all the machinery
@gregorysagegreene
@gregorysagegreene Жыл бұрын
Wow, that's an incredible story. Might have been more effective just to incinerate everything in the plasma field of a research fusion reactor.
@garylangley4502
@garylangley4502 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing. That is a lot of good, useful information that everyone needs to know. Not a lot of pie in the sky rhetoric.
@tifforo1
@tifforo1 Жыл бұрын
That makes it extra-despicable that Amazon recently started putting a recycling logo on their packing materials, knowing full well that even though it's in fairly large print, people won't notice that it says you should take it in TO THEIR STORE to get it recycled. If I wanted to go to a store in the mall instead of using the convenience of curbside recycling pickup or a neighborhood recycling bin, why would I be shopping on Amazon?
@tifforo1
@tifforo1 Жыл бұрын
I guess I could save up a whole bunch of Amazon packages and take them in all at once...
@shaundevrisky349
@shaundevrisky349 Жыл бұрын
Ever since the current "elected" so-called U.S. President decided to do everything in his power to raise gas and electric prices (thus increasing my utilities and everyone else's), everything burnable that used to go into my recycling bin now goes into the wood stove in my shop to keep my electric heat from running. Laundry detergent jugs, milk jugs, food containers, oil bottles, cardboard boxes, vitamin bottles.....you name it. All of this puts out an incredible amount of BTU's. And I don't feel the least bit guilty for doing it. The worshipers of the green environmental "god" are going to pay a price for their idolatry.
@kimbishop4734
@kimbishop4734 Жыл бұрын
Mr. Stossel, You have been one of my favorite and most trusted sources of information from way back in your 20/20 days. Please keep up the great work.
@Jerry-o3p
@Jerry-o3p 4 ай бұрын
Touché. Stossel knows why recycling plastic is difficult. Not all plastic can be recycled. And why aren't there hardly any automated recycling centers in the U.S.? Humans recycling plastic can give them cancer. So why can't they just stop selling them?
@Jerry-o3p
@Jerry-o3p 4 ай бұрын
Yep. Mr. Stossel knows why recycling plastic is difficult. It's never an easy solution for us consumers to not having to buy items that contain it. Why aren't there hardly any recycling centers that are automated? Because they'd cost MORE than just buying items that have plastic on them! There have been some improvements on purchasing items that aren't made of plastic. Just cardboard. Humans recycling plastic can give them cancer,even if they were wearing masks,goggles,and wearing biohazard suits that cover up from the head to the feet. In air-conditioned facilities that also have ventilators that's equipped with them in every one of them. It'd certainly cost more. But is worth it? Some plastics cannot be recycled. But there are ways. If they're made from oil,then why don't oil refineries and the companies find a solution to end that mess? One of the little-known secrets of plastic. It's part of the earth, right? Probably it's part of nature, right? So why are they a problem polluting our water and sewer systems in this country? There has to be a solution.
@zg-it
@zg-it Жыл бұрын
The plastic straw people were very successful. Now when I go to Starbucks I have to drink out of a cup with a plastic lid, but no straw. Mission accomplished. The disposable mask army has saved the environment!
@lettucesalad3560
@lettucesalad3560 Жыл бұрын
The disposable condom people too
@jimmyhughes5392
@jimmyhughes5392 Жыл бұрын
ironically the only product starbuck's are able to recycle is the used coffee grounds which are recycled into fire-logs to be incinerate, everything else is either sent to landfill or incinerated as is.
@kmac720
@kmac720 Жыл бұрын
The new plastic lid takes way more material to make than the old lid/straw as well.
@ge2719
@ge2719 Жыл бұрын
i noticed that the other day when i got a drink and a hotdog at costco, no straws anywhere, but a plastic lid with a hole in it that didnt work. the lid fit so loosely i didnt trust it to stay on. so i just drank it out of the cup...
@jimmyhughes5392
@jimmyhughes5392 Жыл бұрын
@@ge2719 big pharma want us to have rotting teeth is the only logical reason behind this nonsense
@mountainmover777
@mountainmover777 Жыл бұрын
Insane.. As a former logger in Alaska, I watched fully logged mountainsides repopulate with trees ready for harvest again in less than 20 years. The oldest, most abundant, and most renewable energy source on the planet is being treated like a rare commodity while we pump oil into the shapes of toys for our children.. I'm not crazy, you're crazy!
@arvaneret_329
@arvaneret_329 Жыл бұрын
“Energy source”, meaning -coal- charcoal?
@hughjass2640
@hughjass2640 Жыл бұрын
Your lack of understanding is frightening. May you never hold any meaningful power. Imagine thinking oil is renewable.
@LiberatedMind1
@LiberatedMind1 Жыл бұрын
Yeah problem with your logic is that the rate at which these trees grow 20 - 30 years, is far longer than it takes to cut them down (just months).
@arvaneret_329
@arvaneret_329 Жыл бұрын
@@LiberatedMind1 The rate at which they're cut down can be controlled, observed and distributed over a wider area while attempting to plant more trees than those which are cut down.
@LiberatedMind1
@LiberatedMind1 Жыл бұрын
@@arvaneret_329 No you don't get it, the rate of cut down is dependent on industry demands. People need lumber for houses and such. You can plant as many as want, and its a good thing to do, but by the time those grow back many more will be cut in their place.
@billschlafly4107
@billschlafly4107 Жыл бұрын
I've been advocating against recycling ever since I toured a recycling facility during graduate school. The plant manager even admitted to sending most of it to the dump. Meanwhile, workers spend the day terrible conditions. It can't be good for their health.
@aymanhawari2589
@aymanhawari2589 Жыл бұрын
I just throw it in the dump :/ I knew it was the right course
@eugenetswong
@eugenetswong Жыл бұрын
I volunteered for a recycling organization, where they encouraged people at events to recycle and guided them into depositing into the correct bins. We then had to dump out the contents and sort everything more precisely. The eye opening part was how much time it took to sort and clean those things after the event. On top of that the biggest eye opener was a manager telling us that it had to be this way, because last year, she took 100s of disposable plates home and washed them in her bathtub! It was so insane! 😞
@spec24
@spec24 Жыл бұрын
Well, towns have managed to get around this by charging people per bag for their trash, but charging NOTHING for recycled crap. So, unless you want to spend more money on their overpriced bags, you need to put your garbage in those stupid bins. I hate these people!
@seankingwell3692
@seankingwell3692 Жыл бұрын
"not worth" meaning not lining the pockets of trillionaires enough. This doesn't mean recycling can't work, but when most of the waste is up to the big money buyers, the problem isn't the people being taxed for it all. Put the Ministry of Plenty in charge of sand, guess what is suddenly "rare" on earth!!!!
@eugenetswong
@eugenetswong Жыл бұрын
@@seankingwell3692 I was thinking just a short while ago: maybe the best solution is to go directly to the dump, pour out the recyclables, pull out the profitable pieces, that are easy to get, then keep them, and then leave the rest at the dump as opposed to sorting everything.
@polemeros
@polemeros 7 ай бұрын
We have been drowning in a deluge of lies for so many decades now. About everything.
@BearNecessities-X
@BearNecessities-X Жыл бұрын
You are doing amazing work, John. Don't ever stop.
@lefantomer
@lefantomer 2 ай бұрын
He always does amazing work! And the climate changes because of the sun. Try "recycling" that.
@gerikbensing
@gerikbensing Жыл бұрын
Back in college I was preparing to do a “persuasive speech” and chose to do it on recycling. Once I started doing my research I learned how inefficient it was overall and decided to persuade people to reconsider recycling with “reduce, reuse, but think twice about recycling.” Unbeknownst to me I was giving my speech on Earth Day and my class ended up giving me a standing ovation. I think they were all as surprised as I was by what I had learned!
@smokinhalf
@smokinhalf Жыл бұрын
reduce, reuse, but think twice about recycling. I love that Gerik
@mpokoraa
@mpokoraa Жыл бұрын
yet you can't refrain yourself from buying cheap crap from amazon
@poodledaddles1091
@poodledaddles1091 Жыл бұрын
That’s neat!
@GerrySkeptic
@GerrySkeptic Жыл бұрын
great comment @gerikbensing
@NeuroPulse
@NeuroPulse Жыл бұрын
You would get heckled and possibly chased out of town if you did that in a college today.
@BOTCHIMHOT
@BOTCHIMHOT Жыл бұрын
Thank you Mr. Stossel! I have been watching you in class since the 2010's and I am so happy to see you have youtube channel!
@mwmdtexas4389
@mwmdtexas4389 Жыл бұрын
I live in desert area where water conservation is a must, yet waste a lot of water rinsing plastic containers or metal cans for recycling. I’ve often wondered how this makes any sense at all. I also wondered about the added pollution caused by the extra trucks needed to pick up the recycling materials. You unequivocally answered my questions.
@pup9892
@pup9892 Жыл бұрын
"they get a charge out of telling people what to do." That is the one liner that explains why common sense doesn't matter in our world today.
@Gr3nadgr3gory
@Gr3nadgr3gory Жыл бұрын
It's not common at all anymore is it?
@BicycleFunk
@BicycleFunk Жыл бұрын
Hearing this just shows bad faith on their part. Environmentalism is subject to ideology, but is not just made up to get libertarians are ruffled up.
@mustang607
@mustang607 Жыл бұрын
Much of this garbage is about power and control.
@V0YAG3R
@V0YAG3R Жыл бұрын
Yep, BLM/Antifa/DSA/DNC Karens on a power trip, totalitarian dictators who love to dictate people’s whole lives!
@BicycleFunk
@BicycleFunk Жыл бұрын
@@JohnDoeSr you gotta relax
@jsnsk101
@jsnsk101 Жыл бұрын
Being old, (50) i remember when we had real recycling. Glass bottles you took back to the store, your mum had good quality shopping bags that probably lasted a decade or more, and irony of ironys, milk delivered by an electric vehicle every other day. The 70's were the most advanced we ever got.
@nommchompsky
@nommchompsky Жыл бұрын
Where I live is moving back to that. Plastic bags are banned and people are charged for paper to encourage them to bring their own bags. The local milk producer exclusively uses glass and you get a deposit back when you return the bottle. I'd rather be forced to remember to bring a bag to the grocery store than forced to rinse and sort my garbage
@astrecks
@astrecks Жыл бұрын
I'm even older, 66 (this might start an age race). As you mentioned, in addition, meat was cut fresh and wrapped in grease paper. Loaves were wrapped in waxed paper (which was reused to wrap sandwiches). The local Cooperative store weighed out sugar, butter and cheese in the quantities you needed. I still have milk delivered in recyclable bottles, but sadly the delivery vehicle is not electric.
@freedomrings1420
@freedomrings1420 Жыл бұрын
@@astrecks Please tell me if you had an electric vehicle deliver your milk ,what was used to charge that vehicle? You people make me laugh. And also the original commenter saying a electric vehicle delivered his milk every other day. LOL 😂
@darth3911
@darth3911 Жыл бұрын
@@freedomrings1420It’s possible, electric cars had originally been invented around the same time as gas cars. Reason why electric never took off til now is because Ford managed to make a cheap gas car, electric cars costed a premium. Funny thing is it’s still the same to this day, that said it is rather unlikely for a business to use electric but if it’s a personal vehicle being used for business then it’s game on.
@astrecks
@astrecks Жыл бұрын
@@freedomrings1420 Yes, when I was a kid the milk was delivered everyday by an electric vehicle. They were known as milk floats. The batteries were charged at the local dairy depot. When I went on holidays to my aunties, the milk was still being delivered by horse and cart. Why do 'us' people make you laugh? just curious!
@richardcrowe1429
@richardcrowe1429 Ай бұрын
This is my favourite news channel. Thank you Mr. Stossol
@54000biker
@54000biker Жыл бұрын
I'm 67, I remember as a boy that our dustbin was emptied once a week and it was rarely full. My parents grew up during the war when everything that could be was reused. Pop (soda) came in glass bottles which could be returned for a small reimbursement, in fact all kinds of bottles, beer, milk, etc were recycled. Socks were darned until there was more darn than original sock. Parcels were in brown paper & tied with string, my mother would save both to re-use.
@charlottesmom
@charlottesmom Жыл бұрын
We DO need to go back to glass bottles, I used to live on Diet Snapple but they switched from glass bottles to plastic, I quit it that very day. My family has reusable water bottles so we don't "need" to buy plastic water bottles anymore, saves tons of money.
@TheVenominside
@TheVenominside Жыл бұрын
And unsurprisingly, your generation also has the highest percentage of hoarders 🤔
@charlottesmom
@charlottesmom Жыл бұрын
@@TheVenominside , Hoarding typically is brought on by trauma and it can hit all ages not just older folks. Hoarding is not making due with what you have as the first poster is exemplifying. They are saying stuff should be reused and repaired to extend its useful life or recycled that is not hoarding.
@joemiller9931
@joemiller9931 Жыл бұрын
@@charlottesmom Correct. People who grew up during the Great Depression often became hoarders, rightfully so!!!
@charlottesmom
@charlottesmom Жыл бұрын
@@joemiller9931 , Yup, exactly. My grandparents lived through the great depression, they reused and saved whatever they could. My grandma even to almost the day she died washed out and reused plastic zip bags (even had a little rack to dry them on), she reused all glass bottles and jars and reused newspapers as packing material. All my grandparents were very thrifty...they hoarded what they needed to survive, not how some folks hoard these days.
@harmagician1
@harmagician1 Жыл бұрын
My daughter works for our community's recreation center. She said the recycling containers get emptied into the trash bin at the end of the day. At least people feel good when they put their disposable water bottles into the recycling bin.
@DavianSinner
@DavianSinner Жыл бұрын
LOL.
@jimwerther
@jimwerther Жыл бұрын
Lol!
@PMofKhanadah
@PMofKhanadah Жыл бұрын
Here in Kawartha Lakes, Ontario, Ca., we are "forced" to perpetuate the sham with civic mandates and prosecution for failures to comply. We must use only clear garbage bags so the waste collectors can see whats in it, and if ANY "recyclables" are visible in it they tag it with a red sticker and leave it behind, then a waste management type enforcer comes to investigate and fine $. FYI clear garbge bags are more $ and harder to find than the usual green or black ones, but we MUST use them only or be prosecuted by the tyrants.
@hansemannluchter643
@hansemannluchter643 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, but that's in The Peoples Democratic Republic of Canada, we all now what a totalitarian Hell-hole that country is..
@PMofKhanadah
@PMofKhanadah Жыл бұрын
@@hansemannluchter643 fu. That was nothing to do with my point. Where is your fn utopia boi.
@hansemannluchter643
@hansemannluchter643 Жыл бұрын
@@PMofKhanadah LoL.. You just whined about how your Socialist Overlords force you to put your garbage in see-through bags, so the garbage-Commissaire can inspect it, then you get offended by me calling Canada what it is??
@alexislaisney3404
@alexislaisney3404 Жыл бұрын
Self defense is the first law in nature. Use it. You are a natural person. The government is made up. Unnatural
@mzp6620
@mzp6620 Жыл бұрын
😳😩
@TriRabbi
@TriRabbi 2 ай бұрын
What we need to do for the kids is to stop the federal government from racking up debt in their name.
@_DB.COOPER
@_DB.COOPER 2 ай бұрын
We need to worry about ourselves while we are here alive and let the kids do the same when they are adults! Smh…
@PaulWegert-oc2me
@PaulWegert-oc2me Ай бұрын
@_DB.COOPER Terrible egoistic and disgusting mindset
@_DB.COOPER
@_DB.COOPER Ай бұрын
@@PaulWegert-oc2me I agree the video contains all those things you just stated. Good post.
@PaulWegert-oc2me
@PaulWegert-oc2me Ай бұрын
Oh I’m sorry I didn’t know what smh means😅😅have a nice day
@_DB.COOPER
@_DB.COOPER Ай бұрын
@@PaulWegert-oc2me it doesn’t surprise me just how much you don’t know about reality.
@timburton5950
@timburton5950 Жыл бұрын
Was more eco friendly back when I was growing up 60s and 70s, much less throw-away products back then and you could get a refund on pop bottles, beer bottles, milk came in a carton, my parents saved bread bags for use around our home, used them for packing sandwiches. Is insane how much plastic crap we throw away today for the sake of convenience!
@rjay7019
@rjay7019 Жыл бұрын
👍 exactly what we did. We need to cut back.
@taserrr
@taserrr Жыл бұрын
Yes indeed, it's really an American problem. I don't know why, but America HATES implementing proper policies, especially on companies. It's not like low waste packaging, or recycled plastics don't exist, it's that the companies aren't forced to use them, so they don't care. This works rather well in Europe, most western countries have figured those things out by now, USA is again lacking behind.
@CHMichael
@CHMichael Жыл бұрын
It kills me when people need a plastic bag to put their plastic milk bottle with handles in it. I still used glass for milk in the 90s
@taserrr
@taserrr Жыл бұрын
@@CHMichael In my country, you must pay for a plastic bag if you didn't bring your own bag. It's a good incentive to bring your own proper bag, which almost everybody here does.
@CHMichael
@CHMichael Жыл бұрын
@@taserrr and they will actually give you one that doesn't rip . ... since you really need one.
@Gitn2it
@Gitn2it Жыл бұрын
I've always been concerned about the amount of water being used to rinse out plastic containers prior to throwing them into the recycling bin. I think preserving our natural resources is more important.
@m4rvinmartian
@m4rvinmartian Жыл бұрын
That's really only a concern west of the continental divide.
@LizRealGirlBeauty
@LizRealGirlBeauty Жыл бұрын
Same here. And then all that stuff gets washed in water again the recycling facility.
@anderivative
@anderivative Жыл бұрын
In places where water is abundant, it's no big deal. And a splash to keep the raccoons away is more than enough.
@bettye444
@bettye444 Жыл бұрын
Me too
@PG-3462
@PG-3462 Жыл бұрын
If it's food in that plastic container, then you can simply collect this water and use it to water plants outside. Thus, no water will be wasted in the process and plants outside will get some fertilizer.
@lightning9279
@lightning9279 Жыл бұрын
I live in a town of 250,000 people. My neighbor is a garbage truck driver. The city pays him $70,000 to $180,000 a year depending on how much he wants to work. Those recycling green cans create the need for 2 separate trips to an address. Recycling scam is money in the bank for that driver.
@craigwatkins7011
@craigwatkins7011 7 ай бұрын
Damn. I’ve read more and more all the plastic trash just gets tossed. Aluminum & glass ok.yeah, two trucks a week to the same addresses, that’s retarded.
@DantesTyphoon
@DantesTyphoon Жыл бұрын
Aside from the landfill vs recycling debate, the logo is a triangle because it represents "Reduce, Reuse, Recycle". If someone is preaching recycling without avidly doing the other 2 then they do not believe in thier own words.
@bearvonsteuben9675
@bearvonsteuben9675 Жыл бұрын
My dad was a polymer R & D chemist his entire career. I remember his outrage and headshaking when McDonald’s, under pressure of the greenies, ceased using styrene clam shells. That polystyrene was reused for many useful items. It was replaced by a multi-ply paper from which it was impossible to separate the layers to then re-purpose. Such is the stupidity and inanity of the green movement.
@joospis
@joospis Жыл бұрын
There is conflicting arguments in the green debate and its not like there’s one belief. Stossel even said that the reason throwing plastic away is better is because landfills are regulated so that they don’t leach chemicals out. This regulation is by the green movement
@seekgodfirst1605
@seekgodfirst1605 Жыл бұрын
The green movement has a noble goal. But the rest of the world pollutes many times over what we we do. We need to make good choices and do our part, but this is getting ridiculous. These garbage companies are turning us into indentured servants, forcing us to sort our refuse. We’re facing fines if we put something in the wrong container. A container the charger us money for. We pay for a service, and they control us? The system is wack.
@blue03r6
@blue03r6 Жыл бұрын
The fda made them stop using one type of oil for another that turned out worse for your health.
@deathharpproductions3094
@deathharpproductions3094 Жыл бұрын
@@joospis In the 1970's the "Environmentalists raged against recyclable renewable paper products in favor of plastic. There are now islands of plastic 3 times the size of France in the ocean. Where are all the paper bags?
@baileyhatfield4273
@baileyhatfield4273 Жыл бұрын
@@deathharpproductions3094 They'll complain that the forests are gonna be killed, old growth forests (those are not being used for stupid crap like toothpicks and paper ect) but then they think plastic is the solution...crazy how they think. Biggest problem if it is one, is people buying junk products and throwing them away far too soon. Pay twice as much get 10 20 times a better product.
@briandreggors9178
@briandreggors9178 Жыл бұрын
The mantra growing up was 'REDUCE, REUSE, RECYCLE.' We seem to have forgotten the first two in pursuit of the most feel good action - Recycling. If people reduced the consumption of single-use plastics and continued to reuse them as secondary wrapping, storage, garbage bags around the home, etc., we'd go much further than just the hollow motions of recycling.
@river4462
@river4462 Жыл бұрын
Now the mantra is "order online" pollute even more
@GregorMcIntosh
@GregorMcIntosh 11 ай бұрын
Exactly
@TheBandit7613
@TheBandit7613 10 ай бұрын
@@GregorMcIntosh I toss everything in the trash.
@carly09et
@carly09et 6 ай бұрын
Yep, BUT marketing made it recycle reuse reduce Plastic can be recycled - just use a solid fuel fluidised bed reactor.
@iphonedoc
@iphonedoc 2 ай бұрын
Ah, the ubiquitous "If people". If people would just do what you think is right then what? The world will be good? The oceans won't rise? Polar bears won't drown? You are welcome to wrap your stuff in dirty plastic. Or you could waste water and clean it. Do what you like but leave me out. I just love throwing shit away and getting new stuff in new bags and new wrappers.
@paulevans8348
@paulevans8348 Жыл бұрын
6:52 "They get a charge out of telling people what to do." Nailed it.
@Jon.A.Scholt
@Jon.A.Scholt Жыл бұрын
Almost as much as religious people do shouting at people about morality. Or righteous conspiracy theorists screaming at people about whatever nonsensical garbage they've come up with this week.
@anderivative
@anderivative Жыл бұрын
This video is intentionally misleading, as you can see what people took away from it in these comments. It's 1) recycling doesn't work, 2) gov'ment bad, 3) "dont tell me what to do I don't wanna do it!!!". How about: 1) Recycling glass, metals, compostables is very efficient, 2) The plastic lobby fooled people and govt in to believing their crappy packaging was recyclable for the sole purpose of their own profit, and 3) Capitalism did this, not Greenpeace. The dude straight up shows how dumps become lovely ski resorts as if there's no issues in between. What a joke.
@Jon.A.Scholt
@Jon.A.Scholt Жыл бұрын
@@anderivative 100%, he is disingenuous in the extreme.
@janicehopkins4432
@janicehopkins4432 Жыл бұрын
@@Jon.A.Scholt like "safe and effective" with "rare and mild" adverse effects?
@donh6416
@donh6416 Жыл бұрын
Australia is experimenting a process of 2 types of plastic waste streams. Clean and dirty. Clean is used to remake packaging. Dirty is made into lumber style products or returned to useable oil.
@Jerry-o3p
@Jerry-o3p 4 ай бұрын
Yep. That's good. But it isn't easy. Or cheap for them to recycle plastic.
@faelwolf1177
@faelwolf1177 Жыл бұрын
When I was growing up, we bought dry goods in paper, carboard boxes, or burlap bags, grocery bags were paper, too. Soda came in glass bottles you took back to the store to be refilled, and had a nickel deposit, so us kids would gather them from along the road to get money for candy or other treats, they didn't litter the highway. We reused glass jars for canning or other purposes, and tin cans as well, I still use coffee cans for storage of nails, etc. in my shop. It was used, reused, and fixed or used for something else when it broke, until it was used up. Jelly jars were cast to use a standard canning lid specifically to be reused, and the company that didn't would go broke! Table scraps went to the dog, or into a compost pile. Paper got used to start the wood stove or burn pile, or used for wrapping parcels or crafts in the case of the paper grocery bags. Nothing was wasted if we could help it. There wasn't a trash pick up, we didn't need one. We'd go down to the landfill once or twice a year for what little we had to get rid of, if even that. When the plastic industry did it's big push, we were laughed at for being dumb hillbillies that were just behind the times. Not so dumb, were we?
@shakesitoff1122
@shakesitoff1122 Жыл бұрын
I remember when they told everyone to use plastic instead of paper to save the tree's.
@debanydoombringer1385
@debanydoombringer1385 Жыл бұрын
The video said making plastic bags is half the emissions of other types. The cloth ones and paper bags. Switching was still the right move.
@barriolimbas
@barriolimbas Жыл бұрын
Worse, for Christmas trees now, cutting and using real pine trees is better than a reusable plastic one, for the environment. WTF.
@JReklis
@JReklis Жыл бұрын
In Australia we unironically switched from plastic bags to bags made out of plastic
@zeehero7280
@zeehero7280 Жыл бұрын
you just turn the bag inside out and upside down? Death to the Emus, glory to Australia!
@robertadams2857
@robertadams2857 Жыл бұрын
I’ll remember that
@JReklis
@JReklis Жыл бұрын
@@zeehero7280 now we use heavier "Callico" bags that are clearly made of plastic products and contain a hard plastic bottom and cost $1 or we get a heavy plastic bag for 15c, both supplied with the supermarket brandings
@davidsea1482
@davidsea1482 Жыл бұрын
@@zeehero7280 Don’t forget to turn it ‘back to front’ as well. Works every time. FOLLOW THE MONEY.
@pantarkan7
@pantarkan7 Жыл бұрын
They banned 'free' plastic bags, but replaced them with... you guessed it, plastic bags... only now you pay a nickel for each...
@psychmajortodd
@psychmajortodd Жыл бұрын
Interesting video. For the past few years, I adamantly recycled plastic bottles. But about a year ago, I was listening to a local talk radio station. The show's host said that plastic bottles are just ending up in landfills.
@MC-kp7pz
@MC-kp7pz Жыл бұрын
Brings me back to a time when an old owel was trying to save our forests. So our whole 6th grade class went to war over brown paper bags at the store. We collected money by selling our moms peanut butter cookies ( don't freak out back then it was ok to have peanuts in school. The kid that was allergic to them was smart enough and just didn't eat them). It was a hard fought battle but over time we did win and replaced all those brown biodegradable paper bag with cheap plastic ones. Fast forward a couple decades and our war caused a great plastic island in the middle of the pacific Ocean. What I learned from the whole thing is when these groups decide to save the planet whaT they're really doing is lining their pockets with our money and could care less about the planet...
@brendapeterson7039
@brendapeterson7039 Жыл бұрын
THAT is the truth. In our state we now pay .08 tax for each sack we use to carry our groceries to the car. A store owner told me they have to pay extra for the “thick reusable” sacks, they can’t use their old inventory of sacks and the state keeps that as a tax!!! So the store owner of course charges us in raised good prices. It’s a fun little new trick they have found to make more money.
@blackbrass1973
@blackbrass1973 Жыл бұрын
Exactly
@mirzaahmed6589
@mirzaahmed6589 Жыл бұрын
What's an "old owel"?
@janicehopkins4432
@janicehopkins4432 Жыл бұрын
No nut allergies in my schools in the 1970s. Vaccines are likely contributing to allergies and autoimmune disorders.
@kathystoneburner4947
@kathystoneburner4947 Жыл бұрын
And another freedom stepped on! Its just about more control besides the fact, who the hell are these people. America has more agencies that have zero faces.
@bikinggreg
@bikinggreg Жыл бұрын
I've never recycled plastic. My cousin is a plastics engineer and said it was all BS 20 years ago.
@rustyyb8450
@rustyyb8450 Жыл бұрын
Wed pyrolysis with the cheap thermal potential of "spent nuclear fuel assemblies". Walk away with a sulfur free source of oil, super clean diesel.
@Lot_2023
@Lot_2023 Жыл бұрын
How is it ALL BS when SOME plastics are recyclable?
@bl8388
@bl8388 Жыл бұрын
@@Lot_2023 It sucks when people take one extreme side or the other. It clearly isn't all bs. In fairness the elites and the government lying to us so much, contributes towards people saying it's all bs.
@ekothesilent9456
@ekothesilent9456 Жыл бұрын
@@Lot_2023 in my city we have to pay 35 dollars a month for a recycling bin. It goes in the same truck as the trash, it Never gets seperated and the city has admitted it only has the bin because of state law but that same law doesn’t require it to be recycled, only collected in a bin marked for recycling. That’s how it’s a scam.
@zoltancsikos5604
@zoltancsikos5604 8 ай бұрын
​@Lot_2023 Exactly. His cousin isn't a very good "plastics engineer".
@rainward2761
@rainward2761 Жыл бұрын
The amount of information the general public is under informed about is insane! I learned about this particular issue when I managed a landfill project 20 years ago.
@raven4k998
@raven4k998 Жыл бұрын
plastic is recyclable and not recycled what a load of bs then why do we use plastic over glass then or something that is recycled?
@spec24
@spec24 Жыл бұрын
@@raven4k998 try forming a coherent sentence so people can respond to your ramblings.
@anderivative
@anderivative Жыл бұрын
@@raven4k998 Plastic is technically recyclable but glass is a far better option. We use plastics because they're cheaper for companies which means more profit. This is an issue of capitalism trashing the earth more than it is about recycling not working.
@anderivative
@anderivative Жыл бұрын
@@victorchiappetta3230 that "feeling" was manufactured by big biz to promote using cheapass plastic to increase profits. We wouldn't have gone down this plastic road if the FACTS weren't covered up that plastic doesn't recycle well. Maybe ppl like their feel feels but they didn't make them up themselves: Capitalism fooled them on purpose.
@raven4k998
@raven4k998 Жыл бұрын
@@anderivative yeah money over saving the environment what a thing
@menoyuno8430
@menoyuno8430 Жыл бұрын
Recycling is BS, glad I never cared.
@Publius-24
@Publius-24 Жыл бұрын
"Freedom taken for granted because we don't know what oppression means." Anthrax
@colinklang
@colinklang Жыл бұрын
I've been skeptical about recycling for as long as I can remember. I recall it being pitched heavily when I was a kid ( 90s) and thinking about how all this crap needed to be trucked, sorted, probably trucked again, reprocessed, trucked again ect until it was turned into something useful. It didn't seem very logical. Well as it turns out that is the case. It's also highly subsidized by government because it's not cost effective at all. It's a complete scam!!
@Paul-ou1rx
@Paul-ou1rx Жыл бұрын
The plastic industry itself came up with the 3 arrows recycle logo and the numbering category for recyclables to look like they were managing the issue and to give people a way to feel good about using plastics. "I use plastics but I recycle so I'm more ethical than you."
@janeclayton151
@janeclayton151 Жыл бұрын
we should be making containers and packaging that is biodegradable.
@cavalieroutdoors6036
@cavalieroutdoors6036 Жыл бұрын
@@janeclayton151 that might work for some items, but isn't going to work for everything. If it's biodegradable it will be prone to rot, bacteria, mold, fungus etc. growing in/on it. No thanks.
@matthewweng8483
@matthewweng8483 Жыл бұрын
I don't think everyone thought they were 'more ethical', most people just wanted to contribute to fixing a huge problem. But yes, the plastics companies were incredibly deceptive and that's shameful.
@wwiiinplastic4712
@wwiiinplastic4712 Жыл бұрын
It was meant to visually mimic symbols used by the Eco movement and fool people into thinking the industry was being compliant.
@wwiiinplastic4712
@wwiiinplastic4712 Жыл бұрын
@@janeclayton151 Not always as easy as it sounds because some materials are picky about what they can be stored in, but I like to think more companies are trying than not. I like to THINK that.
@McMillanScottish
@McMillanScottish Жыл бұрын
I was a super recycler. My recycling bin was always five times more full than my garbage and I was proud of it. But the moment I found out that recycling was a total scam, I stopped completely. Now I don’t waste a single brain cell on that bullshit. Everything goes in the trash. Edit: in response to the remarks about aluminum, glass, metal… If I can get paid for it (copper, steel, electronics, etc.), I take it to the scrap yard. If I don’t get paid for it, it goes in the trash. Sue me. Do you want me to recycle? Put a deposit on it. Make me bring it back. If there’s money in it, I’ll bring it back. I am old enough to remember eight packs of glass bottles of Coke and Pepsi that we used to have to return to the store. I thought that worked pretty well. Besides, putting a deposit on trash means the bums can clean the place up and get paid for it.
@bhough410
@bhough410 Жыл бұрын
Recycling metals and clean cardboard are beneficial.
@77Treasurehunter77
@77Treasurehunter77 Жыл бұрын
Still the wrong attitude as: 1. Aluminum 2. Steel cans 3. Glass are still good to recycle and most get's reused. Paper & plastic are the ones that don't really end up working in the end.
@patrickbateman1660
@patrickbateman1660 Жыл бұрын
You should absolutely recycle paper and aluminium. Those are 100% recycled. Everything else isn't.
@dansanfrisco
@dansanfrisco Жыл бұрын
@@77Treasurehunter77 How does that make sense when spending time to recycle those things will ultimately cause more energy use and emissions that pollute the air from the factories that try to recycle? You are still thinking with your "lied to" recycling helps the climate brain. Think deeper here, it is a scam. Guess who are majority owners in these recycling companies? Big oil. You still think you are helping the climate?
@xxxBradTxxx
@xxxBradTxxx Жыл бұрын
Aluminum and steel are the only recyclables. Maybe glass and paper, but I don’t think the resale value is worth it for glass and paper.
@jaxonmattox9267
@jaxonmattox9267 Жыл бұрын
This is great, a proper reality check on the illogical environmental policies created based on people's emotions and lies from corporations.
@brendanflynn5004
@brendanflynn5004 Жыл бұрын
He hit the nail right on the head when he said “they get a charge in telling people what to do.”
@anderivative
@anderivative Жыл бұрын
the high school young republican mindset is that anything that the government mandates or even suggests is bad, hence why you probably liked that comment. As Reagan said when he told people to just give their money to the rich people (trickle on your face econ), the government is BAD. Except for bombing brown people for profit and stopping gay ppl from marriage.
@KellyS_77
@KellyS_77 Жыл бұрын
Also, the environmental movement has now just become an economic one. There's a lot of money to be made in sell green eco-alternatives.
@crocidile90
@crocidile90 Жыл бұрын
@@KellyS_77 it always was an economic movement, it is just that the first few move were helpful to the environment
@ryanwolf4101
@ryanwolf4101 Жыл бұрын
Reminds me of all the mandates for the pandemic.
@the_professor_of_reality
@the_professor_of_reality Жыл бұрын
You said exactly what I took away from this.
@CommodoreFan64
@CommodoreFan64 Жыл бұрын
I was a child of the 80's, and 90's, and I clearly remember multiple times having to sit through the recycling will save the earth BS in school growing up, with even one video being a parody of the Terminator called the "Recyclenator", and another with child celebrities in the early 90's(some from Doogie Howser) trying to fear monger us into thinking kids of the future will have to wear yellow hazmat suits just to go outside, and play if we don't change our ways!! it's 2023, and it ain't happened yet, but as Mark Dice says "Celebrities Know Best!!"😂😂
@bristolauthentic401
@bristolauthentic401 Жыл бұрын
Remember Captain Planet ??? Captain Planet, he’s our hero, gonna take pollution down to zero! Omggggg shit is in my head till this day
@ssgLunchbox
@ssgLunchbox Жыл бұрын
I remember all of that stuff in the 90s and thinking it was bull then at 12 years old
@hermesmcclintok
@hermesmcclintok Жыл бұрын
It’s way worse for kids today. They literally cry about it and try to destroy valuable paintings and objects for attention to their pain.
@Gr3nadgr3gory
@Gr3nadgr3gory Жыл бұрын
Yeah, environmentalists seem to think litter is radioactive or something. Paper litter is negligible to the environment. It gets broken down quickly, often hidden in piles of leaves, the cans and bottles on the other hand never go away. As a landscaper I see this shit happen at our commercial properties often. D&B has a forest area in front of them that everyone tosses their bottles and cans from pregaming. I see other litter there too but its only the bottles and cans I have to clean up.
@moaningpheromones
@moaningpheromones Жыл бұрын
LMAO recyclenator can just picture the lame square sob that thought that was really cool. and they're greenwashing the kids with climate scaremongering. and their kids will get some other bs crisis.
@kthulhukif
@kthulhukif Жыл бұрын
I've tried to share videos like this with people and some of them have gotten incredibly angry at me, calling me a liar, and won't watch the video anyway. Religion runs deep, sadly.
@jhoughjr1
@jhoughjr1 Жыл бұрын
yeah it makes lazy people think we can just keep burying our trash and just always find new places to bury it.
@ge2719
@ge2719 Жыл бұрын
@@jhoughjr1 what? did you not watch the video?
@sanniepstein4835
@sanniepstein4835 Жыл бұрын
@@jhoughjr1 If you acknowledge that the current gestures are useless, you can develop better alternatives. Could it be that you don't want improvement? That it's all posing and power-grabbing at heart?
@SamtheBravesFan
@SamtheBravesFan Жыл бұрын
People don't like to be told they're doing something wrong, so they're apprehensive at first. Just be understanding and try again. Maybe they'll come around.
@allananderson949
@allananderson949 Жыл бұрын
@@jhoughjr1 fuck me. You just watched a video that explains to you that 95 percent of what goes to the recycling plant is can't be recycled. 😂
@guylaraway6102
@guylaraway6102 2 ай бұрын
I worked for a supplier of equipment to General Motors. Their sequencers use "bags" to ship parts to the factory. Every one of them is marked as "recyclable". We replaced them when worn out or for new parts. We jad people come and look at them, we sent samples out to various recyclers; and every one of them said it can't be done. So we sent them to the land fill.
@DdD-pi8jw
@DdD-pi8jw Жыл бұрын
He nailed it! “They get a charge out of telling people what to do.” It’s getting worse every single day.
@joemiller9931
@joemiller9931 Жыл бұрын
And you never tell Americans what to do. I'm surprised we are still a nation.
@zorby3774
@zorby3774 Жыл бұрын
Okay. But don't you think this dude gets a charge out of saying the mainstream is wrong? Both claims prove nothing about whether recycling is worthwhile or not.
@DdD-pi8jw
@DdD-pi8jw Жыл бұрын
@@zorby3774 no. I think he gets a “charge” out of exposing government lies, and proposing an alternative view. I know you libtards hate alternative ideas, but you better get used to it.
@tifforo1
@tifforo1 Жыл бұрын
I wish he had talked more about how the petroleum/plastics industry financially backed pushing the idea that plastics are recyclable.
@durango8882
@durango8882 Жыл бұрын
I’m done with it
@travisbarlow4886
@travisbarlow4886 Жыл бұрын
Stossel is the man, I hope to see more food regulation stuff from you. I am a Sr. Food scientist and there is so many ridiculous regulations that are truly hurting our consumer.
@ppumpkin3282
@ppumpkin3282 Жыл бұрын
I knew a man that worked in the trash collection industry. He told me recycling was invented as a way of increasing revenues, and in the end most stuff goes to the same place anyways.
@anderivative
@anderivative Жыл бұрын
Glass and aluminum recycle very well. Plastic not so much. Recycling was "invented" because some things become that thing again very easily.
@ibleebinU
@ibleebinU Жыл бұрын
One day my son left school late and saw the janitor emptying the recycle barrels into the dumpster with all the other trash. He learned more that day AFTER school. 😊
@anderivative
@anderivative Жыл бұрын
@@ibleebinU that's bad that all that plastic and aluminum didn't get recycled. What was learned exactly?
@ibleebinU
@ibleebinU Жыл бұрын
@@anderivative He learned about deception, a life lesson. You know, don't just believe, follow through, investigate, seek out truths. He pulls the curtain back on most everything of interest.
@Troy_Built
@Troy_Built Жыл бұрын
A couple of years ago our city finally admitted the whole recycling program was a lie. They had been dumping it all in the regular trash. I was surprised at the lack of outrage. Maybe like Santa Claus people had figured it out long ago and were just going along with the crowd.
@radiofreealbemuth
@radiofreealbemuth Жыл бұрын
Al gore in his Oscar winning documentary said the Arctic would be gone by 2013 and polar bears would be extinct. Polar bears are thriving right now and not even on endangered list. Media was also fearmongering about 10 years ago, citing "experts" that were predicting Florida would be underwater in 7 years. Australia even warned in 1999, that in 20 years, there would be no more snow. They just had historic record snowfall. Climate has always been changing. That's why ice age is cyclical and Sahara desert was lush 10,000 years ago.
@xenomorphbiologist-xx1214
@xenomorphbiologist-xx1214 7 ай бұрын
That’s not what climate is. Yes it does change over time but climate refers to long term weather patterns. We have observed “hottest year on record” multiple times and polar bears, while there are a lot of them now, are threatened (not endangered) meaning they will go extinct if trends continue.
@littled6698
@littled6698 7 ай бұрын
​@@xenomorphbiologist-xx1214"hottest year on record" from thermometers placed near air conditioning units, or in airports near runways. The climate alarmists do thier best to try and nudge the numbers up, to continue the grift.
@fizgak
@fizgak 3 ай бұрын
@@xenomorphbiologist-xx1214 Nope.
@TOBEYTOO32
@TOBEYTOO32 Жыл бұрын
When I worked at our local Sprouts, the plastic bag recycling bin was upfront to make it convenient for customers as they came in. When that bin was full, we would take it to the back, take It outside to the dumpster and throw it as if it were trash. I began telling people to take their bags elsewhere.
@anderivative
@anderivative Жыл бұрын
Did we work together? I did that exact same thing. It felt wrong but those bags are basically unrecyclable. Nowadays they're often more compostable which does just fine in the dump as well.
@TOBEYTOO32
@TOBEYTOO32 Жыл бұрын
@@anderivative I'm in Oklahoma.
@theDavidChannel1
@theDavidChannel1 Жыл бұрын
Damn, Sprouts sucks for that lol. I worked for a supermarket way back in the mid 90s and we would put the plastic bags in the baling machine with all the other plastic packaging that was removed by the night crew stocking the shelves. It would be baled in one big lump and hauled away on a truck SEPERATELY from the garbage lol
@e-curb
@e-curb Жыл бұрын
@@wesleyswafford2462 Or if you lived in my city, it was all taken to the giant incinerator plant and burned. At least the resulting heat was used to generate electricity.
@JB-ti7bl
@JB-ti7bl Жыл бұрын
I've seen that same thing at convenience stores: employees taking the recycled plastic collection bag and dumping it into the trash bag.
@italianviking80
@italianviking80 Жыл бұрын
I remember when grocery stores switched from paper to plastic bags because everyone was so concerned about saving trees. Now, they're saying plastic is worse for the environment than paper.
@ranger601
@ranger601 Жыл бұрын
I am from south Georgia and one of the biggest things is pine tree farms. We have thousands of acres of trees that are constantly being planted, thinned, and harvested on a rotation. Paper is a renewable resource.
@andrewgill9489
@andrewgill9489 Жыл бұрын
Yup, I thought the same thing!
@iberianrider5361
@iberianrider5361 Жыл бұрын
@@ranger601 the wood for sure, but the paper needs to be bleached as well
@rhondakendrick2563
@rhondakendrick2563 Жыл бұрын
@@ranger601 110% let`s go brandon
@Lightsngear
@Lightsngear Жыл бұрын
Here in NY, plastic has been BANNED and it's BACK to paper!
@mr.bright_side
@mr.bright_side Жыл бұрын
It's incredible that if people were really about the things they claim to care about (beyond just recycling), they would do the opposite of most of things we are berated and/or mandated to do.
@raven4k998
@raven4k998 Жыл бұрын
dripping brown ooozz interesting they checked for that before saying it was in there🤣🤣🤣
@alvincash3230
@alvincash3230 2 ай бұрын
When I was 12 years old in 1970, I was big into recycling. It was barely heard of back then. But by the late 1980's , I learned the facts in this video and stopped recycling.
@Baileyind
@Baileyind Жыл бұрын
I did some work with a company that converted post consumer plastics into paint cans. The end result of mixing all types of plastic was an all black low grade plastic can. However, consumers demanded a metal lip and lid making it non-recyclable after one use.😆
@donaldkasper8346
@donaldkasper8346 Жыл бұрын
Plastic lids on paint cans work much better than metal ones. The metal ones rust.
@mikeingeorgia1
@mikeingeorgia1 Жыл бұрын
I’ve got some cans of Behr paint I’m using right now. They are all plastic other than the handle and where it connects to the can side. The big lid has a smaller round cap that can be removed so a plastic pour spout can be put in it’s place. It seems to work pretty well so far but I’ve only had them for about a week.
@mikeingeorgia1
@mikeingeorgia1 Жыл бұрын
Upon closer inspection I realized that the places on the side of the cans where the handle connects are also made of the same plastic as the can. So it appears that the only part of the can that isn’t plastic is the handle.
@TeishaPriest
@TeishaPriest Жыл бұрын
I’m in my 40s for context. The older I get, the more I think that my grandparents were onto something. They weren’t the consumers that my generation tends to be, and many of their frugal practices were actually less wasteful to boot. If I can re-use something I already have instead of purchasing something new, I’ve saved money and generated less waste. Never thought I’d give up my electric dryer, but when it broke last year the cost of replacing it and the doubling of my electric rates made me decide to switch to drying my clothes on a drying rack “for a while”. Honestly, I may never get another dryer. My clothes are not wearing out as quickly and I don’t have to worry about shrinking something because I accidentally put it in the dryer. What do you know? Grandma wasn’t as crazy as I thought she was for air drying her clothes! ;-)
@Psych0technic
@Psych0technic Жыл бұрын
Using clothing dryer is obscenely decadent.
@ripvanwinkle2002
@ripvanwinkle2002 Жыл бұрын
@@Psych0technic i use two i have one just to take the damp out of clothes and then another that i use to dry my laundry..
@ripvanwinkle2002
@ripvanwinkle2002 Жыл бұрын
grandma would have preferred the automatic dryer.. the reason it seems better is the tech that frees up the your time in other areas still makes your day seem light. grandma has no such things. so her day was full dawn till dusk..
@allandouglas4856
@allandouglas4856 3 ай бұрын
USA. Rest of the world air dries
@danielpittijr6283
@danielpittijr6283 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Stossel for these amazing videos.
@nicholasthompson5325
@nicholasthompson5325 Жыл бұрын
John-we love you. Thank you for imploring common sense objectivity. I had an argument with my in-laws years ago about the “garbage of plastic recycling”-their response? “If they [the recycling company] don’t recycle it’s not our fault, we still do our part to put it in the recycling bin”
@thomasjones5586
@thomasjones5586 Жыл бұрын
People in the plastic industry have known since the mid 80's that the recycling idea was a waste. I worked for a company that made small plastic spools for sewing thread. The most recycled plastic they could use was 4%. Almost nothing.
@jamesgibson6504
@jamesgibson6504 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for always being a voice for truth and reasoning. You are appreciated John!
@hmdoc16
@hmdoc16 Жыл бұрын
I remember when my new neighbors moved in next door. In typical tree-hugger fashion I noticed how painstakenly and carefully they would flatten all their cardboard and stack them according to size and neatly line them up in the recycle container, from small to large - perfect! Same with cans, diligently wash them, remove labels, and had a special crusher to flatten them and place them in their container. Same with glass - washed, labels off, carefully stacked in their own container. Paper neatly stacked and tied in a bundle. Placed them all in perfect alignment on the curb. Very feng-shui! As they walk away, they look back a couple of times, with a big smile, feeling very proud of their accomplishments. That all changed when the garbage collector rolled in. He dumped everything all together in the same receptacle. I will never forget the look of horror on my neighbor's face!!!
@nommchompsky
@nommchompsky Жыл бұрын
Yes, they lovingly smiled at their garbage. That is totally a thing that happened
@freedomrings1420
@freedomrings1420 Жыл бұрын
LOL 😂
@Adyfire
@Adyfire Жыл бұрын
Imagine writing all this down to stick it to the tree huggers!
@freedomrings1420
@freedomrings1420 Жыл бұрын
@@Adyfire Don't cry ❄, I'm sure that you can find your safe place.
@justinjustinjustin10
@justinjustinjustin10 Жыл бұрын
This comment is stupid. Everything you mentioned can and should be easily recycled. This video even said, for example, that paper and cardboard and glass and metal is easily recyclable and good too. It’s talking mostly about plastics. But yeah I’m sure the story really happened that way.
@richard1313
@richard1313 Жыл бұрын
Glad you mentioned the rinsing out thing. My wife will run about 4 litres of water off to get to hot water to rinse a small item of plastic which is wasting both the water and the energy used to heat it. Insane.
@aebalc
@aebalc Жыл бұрын
I do that too but when I don't I get bugs and stink in my bins.
@Redmanticore
@Redmanticore Жыл бұрын
technically water is never wasted, it comes back after filtering. you are not crying that you literally shit in water while using toilets on a massive scale around the world. you drink that very same water after filtering. energy waste, sure.
@richard1313
@richard1313 Жыл бұрын
@@Redmanticore I think most people will understand that I am referring to the wastage of resources used to supply the water that has been used unnecessarily.
@1pcfred
@1pcfred Жыл бұрын
She's a keeper. Cleanliness is next to godliness.
@sa3270
@sa3270 Жыл бұрын
That's only 1 gallon.
@noneyabusinessyoushouldbes7924
@noneyabusinessyoushouldbes7924 Жыл бұрын
There's only one appropriate way to recycle paper and plastic, it's by burning it under a boiler, to run a turbine, to generate electricity (which is needed even more as more people buy electric cars). The U.S.A. (and I think probably the rest of the world) has one hundred times more trees now, than we had one hundred years ago. And as a result we have more and more and bigger and bigger forest fires every year. Proper forest management requires cutting far more trees than what are being cut. And recycling paper is an environmental disaster.
@SvendleBerries
@SvendleBerries Жыл бұрын
I remember when plastic bags were introduced in the 90s because environmentalists were complaining about needing to save the trees. Now environmentalists are complaining about plastic being everywhere, so now we are back to using paper bags lol
@Bateluer
@Bateluer Жыл бұрын
Doubly so since the paper for those paper bags came from tree farms. Plastic grocery bags were one of the biggest cons of all time.
@robertmarmaduke9721
@robertmarmaduke9721 Жыл бұрын
I discovered those brown paper bags are produced in China after they dismantled all the US paper mills and sent the equipment to China. The little paper handles are glued on by Uyghur wage slaves. Happy Falafel Day!
@Ethel173
@Ethel173 Жыл бұрын
@@robertmarmaduke9721 i literally dont believe that only because (china running) a machine doing it would be 500x faster and cheaper im not defending china, china bad. but that does sound a little bit too propaganda-y considering how easy of a task putting glue on something and pressing two pieces of paper together could be automated
@andylin6560
@andylin6560 Жыл бұрын
could this be the reason the milk given out by my elementary school was in plasic bags. Yes, everyday at lunch we can a small bag of milk. It was strange.
@arthurbrumagem3844
@arthurbrumagem3844 Жыл бұрын
I grew up in the era when plastic bags replaced paper and even then I knew it was a joke
@MF-zj3zl
@MF-zj3zl Жыл бұрын
I worked at an appliance recycler. The issue was not recycling the freon, foam insulation, oil, metals, and glass. These all can be readily separated, recycled and have a secondary market. The biggest issue was the plastic. Because there are MANY different plastic chemical compositions and they cannot all be comingled and recycled as one "plastic", there is a very limited secondary market. A lot of the plastic shelves and bins can be salvaged as used parts, but most of the other plastics are just ground down and hauled to the dump.
@languagetruthandlogic3556
@languagetruthandlogic3556 Жыл бұрын
Good comment. How are 'recycled plastic garden seats' made? They 'appear' to be recycled plastic?
@rewardilicious
@rewardilicious Жыл бұрын
​@@languagetruthandlogic3556 I have a recycle plastic item, that I just bought because I liked it and had money to waste. I still don't actually know how they achieved it but it seems legit because it cost like 30x more than the item normally would. I assume it was extremely labor intensive and they had to use items that were easy to spot that used one composition, I think maybe it was made out of fishing lines or specific nets or something. So for certain things I bet it's easier to recycle it, for your garden seats maybe they specifically also use other older broken plastic chairs which is worth it since it's a larger object.
@jakegarrett8109
@jakegarrett8109 Жыл бұрын
@@languagetruthandlogic3556 Some plastics (like milk jugs) are very easily recycled even yourself, however many plastics either require extremely fine control of temperature and humidity processes (plus who knows what contaminants they have in them throwing off that process) that is seems exceptionally difficult. But there are definitely some recycled plastics like melting milk jugs into things you could even do at home (though as with melting all plastics, there are some air pollution concerns etc). I 3d print thermoplastics, so those you can easily remelt into a mold if it fails, but the problem is that you need like a $10k machine (lots of material resources) to recycle it back into a useable material to 3d print with, and even a hobbyist not valueing their time is never going to have like $200 in waste materials (that's like 25 pounds of plastic of 1 type that you need to recycle, and it can't be too degraded, and needs a lot of processing). However, if you have a large mold like a 2x4 board you want in plastic, you could easily melt down 20 pounds of plastic into that with minimal tools, its just that a 2x4 normally doesn't cost anywhere what your time will, so unless its for a craft or artwork its not very feasible unless you are just messing around for fun.
@tifforo1
@tifforo1 Жыл бұрын
Plastic recycling was to a significant extent touted by the American Petroleum Institute, the same organization that pretended that the dangers of leaded gasoline were actually caused by naturally occurring lead (and tried to bribe the scientist who proved that pre-industrial ice had like 0.1% of the lead content of pre-Clean-Air-Act industrial ice) and are leading advocates of climate science denial.
@derekv8534
@derekv8534 Жыл бұрын
Most of it can be recycled into something useful such as plastic lumber , it’s just not profitable. If something isn’t profitable, no one will take on the burden to do it and I don’t blame them.
@jasonwojcik
@jasonwojcik Жыл бұрын
My wife asked me once why we recycle when we know it is a scam. I told her it helps put on a show to keep those green lunatics from harassing us. They are a pretty unhinged bunch. That and they charge more for an extra garbage can versus a recycle can.
@SimonASNG
@SimonASNG Жыл бұрын
Yup, that's why we do it. They charge us per garbage can, so we only do one. The recycling bin is a great way to get rid of plastics, cardboard and other things that would just overfill our trash can.
@jamesrecknor6752
@jamesrecknor6752 Жыл бұрын
A Prius in San Francisco with a COEXIST sticker is saving the planet and universe and stuff.
@daskampffredchen
@daskampffredchen Жыл бұрын
@@jamesrecknor6752 m'kay
@ritadyer9295
@ritadyer9295 Жыл бұрын
Lol! So I can get a recycle bin added and not have to pay extra. Didn’t know that. Thanks.
@realShadowKat
@realShadowKat Жыл бұрын
And this is why my recycle bin is more full than my rubbish bin on the weekly. If it's plastic, glass, aluminum, paper, cardboard... pretty much any container... it goes in the recycling bin. Recycling is free; each bag of rubbish I need a tag that costs $3. Typically I only have one kitchen-sized bag of garbage... sometimes not even that.
@nhanhnguyen3542
@nhanhnguyen3542 Ай бұрын
I found this video to be most enlightening. Looking forward to more in the series. Greetings from Ontario, Canada.
@Ocyla
@Ocyla Жыл бұрын
My husband refused to get the recycling bin when we moved into this house because he said it was pointless. This was 20+ years ago. And he was right.
@keywacat
@keywacat Жыл бұрын
My wife bought one because it makes her feel better, as she finally admitted. The only thing I recycle is glass, because I like smashing them into the big collection bin. Although its changed a bit when I first got here I was amused to see the one thing Americans recycled was the one thing Czechs did not: aluminium cans.
@robertadams2857
@robertadams2857 Жыл бұрын
We really have two trash cans, one is blue
@robertb1610
@robertb1610 Жыл бұрын
What about cardboard and aluminum?
@Ocyla
@Ocyla Жыл бұрын
@@robertb1610 I don't know about cardboard but crushing cans and taking them in will get you a little money. They wouldn't go in the recycle bin though.
@robertadams2857
@robertadams2857 Жыл бұрын
A lot of spot on points. Mostly a scam is true. However I would take my laundry container back for a refill. I miss returnable soda and beer bottles. We did’t know how “green” we were back in the day. I remember returnable milk jugs too.
@saulofontoura
@saulofontoura Жыл бұрын
For plastic bags I use bags made of cloth. Same four bags for years. That’s a simple way to avoid consuming hundreds of plastic bags.
@riverbank2193
@riverbank2193 Жыл бұрын
​@@saulofontoura notice that in this video they showed a reusable cloth bag as an example of something worse for the environment than plastic bags. It was just a visual that went by in a second or two, but it was in there. Biased reporting. There is no counterpoint to the point Stossel is trying to make. He's pushing an agenda. Where is the counter argument?
@chipgrono215
@chipgrono215 Жыл бұрын
@@saulofontoura He reason I use them because they don't break open and spill my groceries all over.
@Lightsngear
@Lightsngear Жыл бұрын
Not sure where YOU live -- but every can & bottle bought HERE, needs to be returned -- or you spend money on a deposit you don't get back.
@robertadams2857
@robertadams2857 Жыл бұрын
@@Lightsngear One hint is the block O…. No mandatory recycling in Ohio, just the useless blue containers that most of which is probably thrown in landfills.🤷🏼‍♂️
@cincin2u
@cincin2u Жыл бұрын
Trust is gone.
@CitizenKate
@CitizenKate Жыл бұрын
6:20 - Paper shopping bags, in my experience, are actually stronger than those pathetic flimsy plastic bags. And I like them for other reasons. I hope they don't go away. I need them in my garden.
@CitizenKate
@CitizenKate Жыл бұрын
Then again, I get your point about all the other plastics that aren't as recyclable as we once thought. I don't think we were misled at first, I just think we've learned more since we first thought that.
@ShawnPitman
@ShawnPitman Жыл бұрын
The saving trees fallacy is potentially one of the best litmus tests for whether or not someone understands where raw materials come from and how recycling works. Trees for paper are grown on "paper tree farms" just like any other harvestable plant. When new paper use is high, farmers grow more trees... When new paper use is low (and recycling is high) they grow fewer trees. If you think recycling paper leads to more trees you don't understand one of the most basic aspects that relates paper to trees.
@russr
@russr Жыл бұрын
It's not just that, it's that most paper isn't recyclable. If it has colored ink on, if it has the shiny surface on it like ads, if it was any kind of a food container, like a pizza box with even a spot of Grease on the cardboard it's trash.
@davidb2206
@davidb2206 Жыл бұрын
That's not true. The acreage remains the same, as most of the pulp comes from paper company-owned land, such as Georgia-Pacific. The trees are already planted at the maximum efficient density -- this is an old science and industry. The only thing that changes is the harvested amount; so, it is true, that more recycling of paper would result in fewer trees cut down.
@Psych0technic
@Psych0technic Жыл бұрын
Which to soil exhaustion, which leads to increased demand in fertilizer, which leads to increase in energy consumption, which leads to bigger carbon footprint etc, hence climate change.
@josephfahner6778
@josephfahner6778 Жыл бұрын
Years ago I read an article that claimed that 85 percent of the garbage in landfills was actually composed of paper and that by covered it with dirt was the very thing that kept it from decomposing, depriving it of the oxygen that was needed to speed the process.
@theword2011
@theword2011 Жыл бұрын
“They get a charge out of telling people what to do”…such a true statement. When you can’t make an argument that convinces people to do something on their own, the losers way is to force it on them.
@axeman4176
@axeman4176 Жыл бұрын
LOL, similar to Covid Vaccine
@davidb2206
@davidb2206 Жыл бұрын
No, it's industry profits. They could sell their drinks in returnable glass bottles, but their profit is far higher to use petroleum-based plastic -- rather than bio-degradable American corn cellulose -- and make YOU taxpayers dispose of it, at the local cost of your local landfill.
@Samlol23_drrich
@Samlol23_drrich Жыл бұрын
Holier than thou mentality at its best
@MrTrevorDidier
@MrTrevorDidier Жыл бұрын
Glad I didn’t get that.. It’s nice to see most people jumping on the side of not getting more shots.
@DILLIGAFFB
@DILLIGAFFB Жыл бұрын
That was such an accurate assessment.
@caseyford3368
@caseyford3368 Жыл бұрын
Yes we can recycle everything. I just can't give you the details online. If you're aware of all available tech, you'd know we just have to use it correctly in order to clean all pollution. In the air water and soil. No matter how small or big. Or even how toxic.😎🇺🇲
@elultimo102
@elultimo102 Жыл бұрын
I saw a vid about using unrecyclable plastic as building material. They heated it to fuse the plastic into "Concrete Blocks," which didn't break and were bug proof. It seems like a good idea, but there is little about its success, cost, or practicality in real world applications.
@piouswhale
@piouswhale Жыл бұрын
yeah China does it, it's called Tofu-Dreg
@Cooldudewhotellsamazingjokes
@Cooldudewhotellsamazingjokes Жыл бұрын
That is a cool idea. You could even use it for emergency housing after natural disasters in the U.S and everywhere else.
@Masterr59
@Masterr59 Жыл бұрын
Damn, I never thought of that. Use the thing that takes 100,000 years to degrade for a house!
@bobjoatmon1993
@bobjoatmon1993 Жыл бұрын
Yah, experimented with that back in 2012. Loaded a vessel (with a lid and a trickle of nitrogen to drive the oxygen out the vent) with plastic and used nichrome heater wire to heat the plastic to melting. Had a mold we'd made for garden paving blocks and we filled it full of sand (for filler and to block UV light from eating up the block quickly) and some ground up charcoal briquettes for the carbon dust for UV protection. We had to put a vaccum pump on the outlet of the mold and shut the melting pot vent so it got about 2 pounds pressure... Between the pressure above the very thick viscous molten plastic ( just a random mix of household plastic, basically PE and PP) and the vacuum below the plastic flowed through the sand and filled the mold. We made 20 of those paver 'stones' and they came out very nice. Used thenm to make a walkway between a back door and a side garage door. They are still there and just as good as the day they were made. Not slick, the sand at the surface gives an antiskid effect.
@toomanymarys7355
@toomanymarys7355 Жыл бұрын
They're super expensive and break down in UV light.
@PartyOnDude_
@PartyOnDude_ Жыл бұрын
"they get a charge out of telling people what to do". True, that's a big part of all of this
@spudth
@spudth Жыл бұрын
@Beatnik um, yes it is and you just got your little charge for the day.
@paulwhelan7781
@paulwhelan7781 Жыл бұрын
@Beatnik yes it is.
@ca_ged
@ca_ged Жыл бұрын
“Recycling is a sacrament of the green religion.” This was profound.
@JR6191947
@JR6191947 Жыл бұрын
Yes, absolutely Lining us all up like mindless robots to serve as slaves to the Elite
@geerstyresoil3136
@geerstyresoil3136 Жыл бұрын
and sad.
@papertowelthe6th105
@papertowelthe6th105 Жыл бұрын
"Recycling is a sacrament of the green religion" it is and it's not. Recycling is useful because you can recycle some plastics but the myth was propagated by the oil industry. The proper response should be to introduce policies that don't allow for rampant production of plastics that pollute the environment. Governments would need to fight the whole fossil fuel industry though and that's hard considering that they keep distorting the public opinion about pollution, climate etc. They are using green activists as pawns to make them the bad guys and that's how they push regulation away. it's really freaking irritating how different movements act the way the fossil fuel industry wants them to...
@markokostelac7282
@markokostelac7282 Жыл бұрын
And innaccurate
@ca_ged
@ca_ged Жыл бұрын
@@markokostelac7282 which part?
@wemcal
@wemcal Жыл бұрын
Great video and extremely information. In my area recycling is bad, everything is dumped with the regular waste.. I’m trying to do what I can in helping the bags issues.. everyone take care and have a great week
@richardbast7243
@richardbast7243 Жыл бұрын
I remember the barge. It was turned away because the normal spot was too busy. They went to the next spot and were turned away because they were busy. The third spot decided there must be something wrong because the first two spots turned them away. And this happened from I believe New Jersey to Texas or something like this.
@kcgunesq
@kcgunesq Жыл бұрын
Remember, the news media believes if something is true in Manhattan then it is necessarily true everywhere for everyone all of the time. So if NYC runs short of landfill space, it is a crisis.
@JusticeAlways
@JusticeAlways Жыл бұрын
It wound up in Alabama.
@4000angels
@4000angels Жыл бұрын
This was an awesome video. Thank you, John. I seriously have never seen anyone else put forth true information like you do. I have been watching your journalism ever since you were on 20/20. Thank you for everything you do.
@professerjeeves
@professerjeeves Жыл бұрын
Penn and Teller's BS did a very thorough debate on recycling.
@jovetj
@jovetj Жыл бұрын
@@professerjeeves The truth can set us free.
@4000angels
@4000angels Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@anderivative
@anderivative Жыл бұрын
plenty of things are very recyclable. Plastic has been known to be a shitty recyclable since the 90's and plastic bags are almost complete waste. None of this is new. Why didn't he mention glass, wood, metals? "Telling people do to things they don't want to do" uh yeah, sorry for the inconvenience CUZ UH MA FREEDOMZ!
@sneakypress
@sneakypress Жыл бұрын
This video was designed for the stupid people. “true information” If you believe what’s been presented here by people who obviously do not understand recycling and it’s potential, then heaven help us all !!!
@talltree3534
@talltree3534 Жыл бұрын
Oh john Stossel! There are SO MANY other issues and attitudes in this world similar to this that are either deliberately or erroneously forced upon us as some good and righteous/virtuous cause! Thanks for continuing your good work sir!
@wyomins
@wyomins Жыл бұрын
Like electric cars and "renewable" energy?
@MichaelForte-jn5pn
@MichaelForte-jn5pn Жыл бұрын
I'm from the government and I'm here to help....
@zg-it
@zg-it Жыл бұрын
Here in Michigan, we have this cruel tax on poor people called the bottle bill. If you buy something with bubbles in it, you have to return your garbage in order to get $.10 back. Ironically, two companies have the Monopoly on this industry. One company sells the machines to collect people's trash at the expense of store owners, the other is a company that recycles that has a monopoly on Michigan's bottles. This strange irony is that almost every municipality in Michigan has a recycling program, so poor people have to pay twice to recycle their soda pop. Thank you government!
@bhough410
@bhough410 Жыл бұрын
Watched people in poverty stricken villages up north spend their entire free government food check (EBT) on cases of the least expensive soda they can buy, so they can return the cans and spend the deposit on whatever they like.
@jhoughjr1
@jhoughjr1 Жыл бұрын
yes sooo poor a dime matters. LOL
@jhoughjr1
@jhoughjr1 Жыл бұрын
@@bhough410 Kinda just easier to sell their ebt directly.
@l.plzsavethebeez485
@l.plzsavethebeez485 Жыл бұрын
Drink water out of your own non- plastic , no throw away bottle! Pop taste great but puts on the pounds and does zero for your health!
@zg-it
@zg-it Жыл бұрын
@@bhough410 I know that experience, I grew up working in a liquor store near Detroit. The old food stamps that were a dollar we're great for buying a five-cent piece of gum. We have to give him $0.95 in change. They do that four times over and then buy a half pint with their government money.
@brucemattes5015
@brucemattes5015 Жыл бұрын
I stocked grocery store shelves after school in the late 1960's & early 1970's. One of my boss's gripes was the breakage of, and loss of potential sale, of anything bottled in glass. The grocery store got compensated by the wholesaler, but, just like anything to do with money, the paperwork was a pain in the ass, and the compensation was slow in coming. Plastic packaging was in its infancy at that time. Retailers embraced plastic packaging with open arms because it reduced breakage & loss to unheard of minimal levels previously not possible. Plastic, in its thousands of different chemical formulations, and tens of thousands of differing shapes; is the one hundred million pound gorilla lurking in humanity's shadow. The Cousteau brothers proved conclusively decades ago that *every single* ocean, inland sea, large freshwater lake, and river system in the world was contaminated with microscopically small, round globules of plastic. Particles that they then theorized would continue to reduce in size until they were small enough to pass through cellular menbranes. A theory for which they received an incredible amount of criticism for from the scientific community at large, and for which they were accused of being *fear mongers.* Time has proven the brothers to be absolutely correct in their assumptions regarding plastic. Plastic, regardless of its chemical composition, is simply immune to chemical decomposition from water, the earth's *Universal Solvent.* ALL that happens is that the spheres continue to shrink in size. Humanity has embraced plastic for an incredible number of reasons, all of which have improved the quality of life, and the general standard of living, for hundreds of millions of people since the 1940's, when the first plastic was invented. However, no one seems willing to accept the idea that plastics may ultimately be responsible humankind's eventual demise if we don't figure out how to deal with them. All metals can be resmelted, and reused. Glass has no limit to how often it can be melted, and reused. Paper, cardboard, and all other carbon compound organic materials can be broken down by composting, and returned to the soil. Plastics are unique in that they have either an incredibly limited ability to be recycled, or no ability to be recycled at all.
@archangelliii2536
@archangelliii2536 Жыл бұрын
OH MY GOSH... WE'RE GONNA DIE!!!! 😮😂😅😆💀☠️
@asonofliberty3662
@asonofliberty3662 Жыл бұрын
@@archangelliii2536 If you get that freaked out, go eat a slug
@johnsmith2797
@johnsmith2797 Жыл бұрын
In what earthly scenario do you imagine plastics being the demise of the most resilient creature on the planet?😂
@actionjksn
@actionjksn Жыл бұрын
I've been trying to tell this to my wife for years now. She doesn't seem to believe me and she believes all that stuff we're throwing in the blue bin is actually being recycled. The only reason I'm even going along with that is because it saves room in our regular dumpster during the times where we don't have enough room in our regular trash bin. I think I'm going to save this video and get my wife to watch it with me, maybe that will help.
@xornxenophon3652
@xornxenophon3652 Жыл бұрын
Well, they sort of recycle the plastic - by burning the stuff to generate heat. It is called "thermic recycling". It is better than putting it in a landfill...
@actionjksn
@actionjksn Жыл бұрын
@@xornxenophon3652 You ever light a piece of plastic and see what kind of noxious fumes come off of it? It is a big myth that we are running out of land to bury trash. Landfills makeup a tiny fraction of a percent of the land in the United States. It may be an issue in Europe I don't know but we have a massive amount of unused land in the USA. Once the landfill is full we can plant grass and trees on it and you can't even tell there was ever a landfill.
@overbuiltlimited
@overbuiltlimited Жыл бұрын
​@@xornxenophon3652 Did you not watch the video? Most of the plastic gets shipped over seas to countries like Malaysia. They burn it yes, not to create heat, but to get rid of it.
@One-Day-After-Another
@One-Day-After-Another Жыл бұрын
After watching this video........the fact that all the plastic bottles could possibly end up in another country or in the freaking ocean instead of being recycled.... it's going in the regular trash now... the only thing I'm recycling is cereal/cracker/etc boxes, aluminum cans....metal cans, etc. I'm not doing this because I'm lazy.... but because I'd rather it end up in a safe landfill than in the ocean because i put it in the recycle bin.
@insmileyfacemur4242
@insmileyfacemur4242 Жыл бұрын
​@@One-Day-After-Another I put all my plastic in the blue bin who gives a f*** where it goes😂😂
@caribbeanbound8357
@caribbeanbound8357 Жыл бұрын
We slowed our recycling a few years back when we learned that about 90% was going to the garbage dump anyhow. We completely stopped recycling last year when we were paying for the extra recycle bin then realized they were dumping it in the same truck as the trash pickup.
@Hawken54
@Hawken54 Жыл бұрын
I remember working in a grocery store. Soda was in returnable glass bottles, and you got a discount on the next 8-pack of bottled soda when you returned the empties. But eventually went to plastic.
@Baileyind
@Baileyind Жыл бұрын
PEI (Canada's smallest province) was one of the last jurisdictions to enforce an "all glass pop bottle" policy. They finally realized the cost and energy needed to ship and clean all that glass was more expensive and produced more pollution compared to plastic. However, it did make it a unique place to visit and I swear there is nothing better than an ice cold Coke in a glass bottle.🤗
@Hawken54
@Hawken54 Жыл бұрын
@@Baileyind - Pop does tastes better in a glass bottle. But also back then they used real sugar instead of corn sweetener.
@matthewhowe3727
@matthewhowe3727 Жыл бұрын
Nothing like a soft drink from a glass bottle.
@irdmoose
@irdmoose Жыл бұрын
So you mean to tell me that my practice of saying "screw this insanity, it's too complicated" for the last 4 decades of my life and throwing everything into the trash has been the best practice all along? Awesome.
@apokalypthoapokalypsys9573
@apokalypthoapokalypsys9573 Жыл бұрын
Actually, no. He mentions in the beginning that recycling works for things like paper and aluminium. You should recycle those. Only plastic is the problem.
@cullenmayes3370
@cullenmayes3370 Жыл бұрын
Recycle your glass, too
@irdmoose
@irdmoose Жыл бұрын
@@apokalypthoapokalypsys9573 Right, and those are things that I do recycle, which I didn't make clear in my original comment. But hey, that's what I get for trying to write something quick while I'm on my coffee break.
@gregorysagegreene
@gregorysagegreene Жыл бұрын
Believe you me, I just made the manager at the truckstop just totally crack up with my minute-long diatribe about the focus group the CEO used to come up with stronger, thicker, more unwieldy 'reusable' plastic bags that I would just love to wrap around a sea-turtle's neck with my bare hands!
@reasonablespeculation3893
@reasonablespeculation3893 Жыл бұрын
always recycle aluminum Steel cans(they are not tin) should be recycled most paper and carboard is also worth recycling and Clear glass
@psychmajortodd
@psychmajortodd Жыл бұрын
One thing that was going on about a year or so ago up in Akron--about 25 miles north of where I live--was that they city was sending police officers around to inspect citizens' recycle bins to make sure the correct material was in them.
@mikegriffen244
@mikegriffen244 Жыл бұрын
Highschool that was on a college campus i used to go to had us do a 3 hour a week work program. I did the main school building and occasionally collected trash and the recycling bins from classrooms and teachers offices. Janitor lady just told me to be discreet and collect them separately but ultimately they all went in the same big trashcan. They were just doing it to feed the teachers egos I guess. A couple of teachers were so sweet though I just couldn't bring myself to tell them since they had their recycling bins full every time I got them.
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