jojo siwa's awful podcast with tana mongeau

[@AdamMcIntyre]

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[@vvotchme1576]

Jojo is sweating profusely as she is ignoring this woman am I the only one that noticed that 😅

[@Robyninthewoods]

Adam I swear me and you share the same brain cells because I’m just like you if I’m somewhere and someone’s being rude to me to my face ooooooohhhhhhhhh Brooke held herself so well

[@Gecmajster123456]

pink human

[@shotaaizawaslay]

Not Jojo Siwa dismissing being bisexual as an "almost there" so condescendingly in front of Tana who is bi/pansexual lmao

[@haybale287]

FOR REAL. I am shocked that Tana didn't say something. I wonder if she will after the next pod so she can pick a fight lol

[@jumpinspood]

so embarrassing. 😭😭 like??? get a clue, dude

[@WinchesterGirl1998]

brooke had also said she’s pansexual!

[@latamaquino]

EMBARRASIIIIIING

[@rachellbc]

Yeah I was shook neither of them said anything tbh, I feel like so many people don’t hold anyone accountable until after people point it out. I mean I understand to a point of being nervous to speak up or truly not realizing something was wrong till after, but they’re both older than her and the hosts, it was the perfect opportunity for someone to hold her accountable in that moment and clarify. I get it, just unfortunate they didn’t use that opportunity. Also I hate that both of them are not including Brooke. Tana has a responsibility too to include her cohost and look out for her, especially with Jojo barely acknowledging her

[@DiamondFnS]

jojo siwa talks about how brave, mature, wealthy, and well-achieved/impressive she is for two hours

[@somethingelse4204]

But she was also from very humble beginnings. *eye roll

[@jyslog]

But it was also a struggle for her lmaoooo like wow it must be nice to be rich

[@MrsCrangisMcBasketball]

“I’ve always been mature for my age” is like a red flag for immaturity.

[@FabiolaRVela]

“Mature” LMAO

[@justkiddin84]

@@MrsCrangisMcBasketballor grooming. It’s something they say to kids-‘you are so mature for your 7 years.’

[@dvckduckgoose]

this conversation is like walking with two friends on the sidewalk and there isn’t enough room so you’re pushed to walk behind

[@epicderp6167]

THe feeling is too real almost hard to watch!!

[@myteadied1916]

This exactly!!! 😭

[@angelicMisha]

Oh damn, that hit me hard. I am ALWAYS that third friend 😭

[@charlestona3865]

Incredible analogy, spot on. Pretty hard to watch 😬

[@itsjustamyj]

damn I felt that

[@ljb5163]

The dismissiveness of bisexual people is really annoying to me and I’m not even bi.

[@nailinthefashion]

I'm bi and it sets me on fire each and every time. I'm like, "yow!"

[@TtySprnklz]

My husband always tells me he hates the trope of "Oh, you chose a side you can't be bisexual. As if bisexual people can't possibly be monogamous."

[@crab-hr7zm]

Thank you ❤

[@Rightinfrontofmydietdoctorkelp]

​@amandagibson1133 OH my God Your husband is amazing. Give him my appreciation because we need more people to think like him!! I'm bisexuality, I strictly choose monogamous relationships because I couldn't handle having more than one partner! Yes I'm human and I have jealousy issues and etcetera but everyone is different.

[@justkiddin84]

Dismissing straight and bi! So it’s wrong no matter which group you are in to dismiss the other folks.

[@jvyzen]

jojo comparing herself to hannah montana was blasphemy

[@nailinthefashion]

If it was in a humble way like "oh I hope I'm someone's Hannah Montana" it could be a cute way to brand yourself but of course she can't achieve that kinda nuance yet and prob won't ever choose to

[@imdva]

i will say, the jojo merch has the hannah montana essense. I used to have hannah montana wigs, toy guitars, mirror, plate, name it i had it. obsessed. and we know how many things jojo's slapped her face on so she's not half wrong. but popularity wise nope probably never.

[@spongebobandplanktonshould2920]

​@@imdvayeah she's a copycat. In her dreams lol. 😆

[@spongebobandplanktonshould2920]

​@@nailinthefashionYeah, she never will. jojo is a lost case. Already over her BS and her apologists saying "she's young", "emotionally stunted" (yeah right😏) blah blah blah. She's literally 20 lol, aka legal age.

[@claireport22]

Yeah "very humble" 😅

[@hamilcross]

for a supposed self-professed multi-hyphenate, one thing jojo definitely isn't is humble lmfao

[@DirgeHole-2866]

Especially when she defended Colleen which made people furious about it.

[@mausilw]

Multi hyphenate? She’s a good dancer and knows how to make money off kids, what other talents does she have lmao

[@white_isnt_a_race2338]

@@mausilwcognitive dissonance

[@fioregiallo]

The fact she says she has new music coming out genuinely scares me. Lmao

[@littlebigkicker]

​@@fioregiallosame

[@beccatorres]

Jojo comes off sounding entitled and arrogant this entire podcast. Does she even have a PR team? Or is she just surrounded by yes people and see her problematic defense of and friendship with predators as a way to get more engagement?

[@shanel4294]

She probably dropped them as she started this “I’m a big girl now” tour

[@lunamoon6390]

Her mom (Jessalynn Siwa) is a huge stage mom who’s been her manager since she was kid. She (Jessanlynn) was setting up and approving Jojo’s collabs with creeps like Shane and Colleen so chances are her team share her same mindset and even encourage it

[@TheBrokeCyberWanderer]

She probably had media training. She was a child star (I think), it's unlikely she didn't. That's what makes this all weird.

[@abigailllllllllll]

a lot of celebrities and influencers don’t actually have PR teams interestingly enough

[@kimberlyPerth]

@@abigailllllllllllexactly this, they tend to get lessons on PR, but it’s not the same as having a team

[@aldi00024]

Its also Tana's responsibility to bring Brooke into the narrative. For me, the worst thing about this podcast episode is how criminally BORING it is...

[@nailinthefashion]

"Yeah" Or glowing agreement. It's so bland and high fructose corn syrup

[@GGGIA]

criminally boring, so true buahahha

[@breauseph]

Yeah as much as people are pissed at Jojo for it, Tana didn't clock what was happening and make sure she made an effort to bring Brooke in. That being said we're talking about two narcissists and Brooke (I don't know enough about her to say whether she's as deeply self-obsessed as these two?) so the fact that they were in their own little bubble most of the episode doesn't really surprise me.

[@kalan1369]

I agree. Tana didnt do anything to bring brooke into the convo, maybe she was oblivious enough not to notice but idk. Either way its really horrible social etiquette to ignore someone in the convo and ao fukcing RUDE

[@Kaalyn_HOW]

Honestlyyyyy. Tana dominating the entire pod and not even making an attempt to bring brooke in was way more obnoxious than Jojo ignoring her.

[@by_the_garden5482]

Pushing a sexuality onto people… maybe there’s a reason she likes hanging out with James.

[@cynthiaisako]

!!!!!

[@jenewatson549]

I was thinking the same thing No wonder they get along pressuring people about their Sexuality

[@April-wj1fd]

Fr when I initially listened to the podcast I was like wow that is such a weird story..

[@nailinthefashion]

I wish I could be that aloof like "no I just do natural glam nowadays" meanwhile I look like an off brand and duty sour skittle clown Whenever she says she's nothing like James or a predator we'll just quote this entire pod verbatim

[@TtySprnklz]

What's even worse to me is that it comes off as she did so to date the girl.

[@mette9279]

One of the most exhausting things about being bisexual is the feeling you constantly have to prove myself. If I date a girl, people think I was just in denial about being a lesbian, if I date a guy, it was just a phase. Thank you for calling Jojo out

[@aubrie7958]

Felt this

[@brooklynnbailey4356]

Omfg this 😭 you CANNOT win they just want us to not exist I guess 🙃

[@kay01blank]

Seriously it feels like such a "you'll choose eventually" argument it's absolutely annoying

[@elizabthharris6741]

I am feeling this comment SOOOO MUCH! I DONT GET IT! I hate when people are so dismissive of us

[@itsjustmaddisen]

"I wasn't that sheltered." Also Jojo "I only realised we were rich like two weeks ago." *These, my dear internet strangers, are contradicting statements.*

[@itsjustmaddisen]

@@JenSell1626 it’s absolutely heartbreaking and baffling how people will use their children for monetary purposes absolutely. I’m not familiar with Alyson Stoner, but I’m actually going to look it up tonight because I’m very intrigued now lol.

[@ShiningShelly]

I literally am dying over the fact she says she grew up “middle class” WTF everyone knows a double household income, private school and home schooling, and dance classes = UPPER CLASS/wealthy. Meaning AT LEAST $150k yearly income for her as a child. Bullshit middle class. Jojo never had to struggle to pay for groceries, housing, etc or absolutely anything she needed. 21:34

[@amandamandamands]

I agree that she doesn't understand that she grew up upper middle class (dad chiropractor, mum owns a dance studio). One thing that I will give her is that the dance classes wouldn't have cost anything as her mum owned the studio, listening to Jess tell it JoJo was home-schooled because the school suggested it after placement tests on the first day of school (tested at 3rd grade level). Seems like Jess could do that because having a dance studio means that she could take JoJo if she needs to.

[@Laura_Ingalls_Wilder]

I know she said they lived “comfortably.” but what I don’t get is why she made it sound like it was “humble beginnings.” Her approach and phraseology toned this down as to make us believe it truly was humble and simple. A dual income from her parents with those professions is a big deal. Wouldn’t it have made sense for her to say she was “well off” and “very blessed” from the beginning, and not have her situation compared to her original as “simple living?” when people in general act so ignorant to that is really off-putting and it’s not just because it was her that said it. But it says a lot about where she’s at currently as a person. This really irks me and is insensitive to people who are financially working hard and not where they need to be… that’s why it gets under my skin

[@spacegrass6632]

I mean I agree she grew up wealthy but if you're struggling for groceries and housing, you're most likely working class (coming from someone well below the poverty line) middle class people live comfortably

[@April-wj1fd]

Also no offence but middle class is not even a hard start at all.. like being working class and in the cycle of poverty is actual humble beginnings middle class is still so privileged so it's just so laughable to even make out your life was so hard as middle class smh (and we all know you were really upper class Jojo lmao)

[@TheBrokeCyberWanderer]

Er, I thought I grew up middle class until I moved and was told my upbringing wasn't middle class. It was only middle class for the very wealthy town I grew up in, but it was upper middle class everywhere else. I'm not defending Jojo. I'm just saying we believe what we're told as children.

[@SammyIAm819]

“Giving up childhood, so worth it” JoJo just said her money was worth more than having a regular childhood. What a crazy world view

[@beehatesyou]

She’s gonna grow up sad

[@fovosprodromus5020]

only those without a more 'regular' childhood would say it's worth it to give it up - especially money lol

[@ImAtYourMumsHouse]

She can't even say that because she's never experienced childhood. She doesn't know what she missed, so how can she know it was worth it?

[@jasminemcphail3614]

It's honestly sad she said that. I'm not privileged as her but at least I had a childhood and let me tell you it was a pretty great one.

[@AmyAberrant]

And that’s literally not correct. You can always make money in the future, but you’ll never have a childhood again. It’s more worth it to experience having a childhood and then make money, than to have no childhood and only work your whole life.

[@jessventures6172]

Jojo has Shane Dawson energy. She's gonna be telling everyone she's an empath soon.

[@delilahdrummond4076]

Already a half step away, her whole tangent about the nonverbal kids was literally about how easily she can read them without them speaking to her. Sounds like a way to describe yourself as an empath without saying the word empath

[@scootaloosweetieaj5461]

her saying she "loved babies" gave me flashbacks to shanes horrible podcast clip where he called babies sexy. maybe im being dramatic but it had the same tone and all

[@MeowMatee]

Birds of a feather flock together . This year she’s been hanging out with James Charles , Shane Dawson , defends Colleen like her life depends on it .

[@scootaloosweetieaj5461]

@@MeowMatee this is unfortunately showing to be true. it's really sad since this would've been avoidable if something had gone differently in her life. i feel like her upbringing definitely helped normalize this behavior. im not saying it is an excuse for her actions at all, but it does help explain at least a couple of them. the other actions are her just being a shitty person.

[@elizabthharris6741]

Yeah....I think the company she has been keeping certainly shows birds of a feather flock together. Completely agree

[@IHeArTrOcK20]

I do agree that what JoJo did here, was extremely disrespectful and arrogant to ignore Brooke the whole time, but let’s not forget that Tana, as a cohost of this podcast has the responsibility to also bring in the conversation towards Brooke, or involve her in some way, as she is a host. She’s supposed to know how to draw a conversation that involves everyone. This was a big flop on her side too and I feel like everyone’s just focusing on JoJo.

[@ahaakaa]

This!!! Because tana even talked over Brooke too!

[@coffee8599]

The seating arrangement is awkward, too. Tana and Brooke should have sat on the same side. Jojo has to crank her head around whenever she speaks to Brooke. That's probably why she was so extra rude. I'm not excusing anyone though. I don't care for Jojo or Tana and don't know Brooke.

[@heyyfirefly]

yess!! I even do that with my more shy friends in group settings all the time, because I hate if anyone feels bad/left out, and I am an introvert as well. like its really not that hard lol

[@PikachuuNinja]

I was just about to say something very similar!! 🎉 Overall it was really rough. 😢 But at least we know they're going to address it, and THAT'S the key here. Self reflection? Accountability? Whaaaat? Haha~😂

[@janek7479]

@@ahaakaa ffcccccttctctctccttctctctctctctcccccckknjjjj million xodv czar zbccccyc TB cactus

[@Kouki_A0]

Jojo didn’t even made an effort to be humble. She just wanted to talk about her wealth and how much she earned. Man, justice for Brooke she also deserves acknowledgement.

[@raigenhuss7030]

Anyone who says they were mature as a child was told that by an adult. And it is creepy af when adults say that to children.

[@mgracie8129]

I was mature as a child because I had to be, and that's what happened here.

[@beehatesyou]

@@mgracie8129you’re never mature as a CHILD, tf.

[@lorielovesbooks7315]

And it is part of the problem and part of hyper s ualizing children.

[@spoidabetch]

and in comes jojo with the biphobia to top off the juicy cake of crappy behaviour she's been baking. i mean, that's clearly one of her lesser offences, but still made my skin crawl to listen to her devalue the identity of her supposed "best friend" so flippantly like that. the mask of sweetness is starting to slip off of miss siwa just as it did her with other bestie, cauldron.

[@SentientHoodie]

Damn called lesbians dirty and dissed on bisexuals 💀 what an ally

[@liesbeneathoureyes]

Great so Jojo has been publicly lesbophobic AND biphobic now? For a LGBT+ person she sure loves shitting on her own community for clicks 🫠

[@shotaaizawaslay]

Right? She's learning from James Charles I feel like

[@femmecomm]

It def gave me James Charles vibes. @@shotaaizawaslay

[@diamondsofsix]

Biphobia is such a knee-jerk instant reaction with some people. It is truly disgusting.

[@moongoddess5550]

In my opinion I’m more disappointed in Tana. Like a REAL friend would notice how their friend/coworker isn’t being included or acknowledged and they would do something to fix that. That’s how businesses are, you stick together wether people can see it or not and have each others back at times like this. Like who would want to watch a podcast where not only the guest but even Tana herself doesn’t even try to include or acknowledge Brook.. comes off so self absorbed and unprofessional.

[@Kaalyn_HOW]

Exactlyyyy. And Tana is asking all the questions, with someone she already met and shares a circle with, and is talking all over brooke too. Like, she's the bigger ass in this. She's your person, hype her up and bring her in, don't kick her to the curb.

[@ANonBinoDino]

Sorry Adam, have to tap this one out at 15 mins just made me so angry that is 20 year old infant to the queer community sitting there trying to erase the bi community with a platfrom as big as hers its just plain gross. Hopefully someone will humble her. Big shouts to you for sitting through this garage ❤

[@trinitybernhardt9944]

Thank you Adam for being so vocal against biphobia and erasure. I was never a fan of JoJo or really had an opinion. I just didn't really hit any of the groups to view her, but I work with kids who love her and never saw anything wrong with her. I thought it was great she came out so confidently and thought it was great for her fans. This last week has left a bad taste in my mouth. I have been hearing so much I am gonna be asking if my nieces watch her and if so suggest my brother check into her. I was happy to find out they were once Colleen fans and my brother shut that down before everything came out. He saw enough to get the ick from her.

[@liesbeneathoureyes]

It’s so disappointing to see Jojo spreading biphobia. I remember when she first came out and was talking about how “gross” the word lesbian sounds even though (in her own words) she IS a lesbian. Retching and gagging and saying the word lesbian made her uncomfortable. Such a horrible example to set for her young LGBT+ fans.

[@jules5006]

@@liesbeneathoureyesi completely agree. lgbtq+ face enough shame already from intolerant people. JoJo should have recognized she was shaming sexuality on a huge platform that could be potentially damaging to her young fans

[@LizStaples]

I think Jo Jo has been produced and controlled, she was a product from a young age, and her parents allowed and encouraged this. She has never actually lived as a normal person she thinks the world revolves around her because it has her whole life.

[@trinitybernhardt9944]

@@Raya-ir4tm it is never ok to disregard someone's identity when they tell you, but there is a difference between the two situations. Straight people are not under attack and facing oppression every day for being straight. They aren't bring told by both the straight community and the LGBTQIA+ community that they don't exist. Yes I cringed at the part she told her identity period, but the biphobia is worse. I especially care as a bi woman.

[@TheAlipop13]

fr i really appreciate it being called out especially by other members of the lgbtq+ community

[@raigenhuss7030]

Bi erasure is so real. I don’t call myself anything. People ask and I say I’ve dated both men and women and leave it at that. People hear bi and think you’re confused or haven’t decided yet. Like nope. I literally just don’t care

[@ImAtYourMumsHouse]

Same same 🤝

[@MeowMatee]

Same

[@philstrachan]

Well said

[@Waryfaerie]

It’s so bitterly funny because you get “Bi people are promiscuous cheaters who will date x gender while secretly sleeping with Y gender!” But also if you’re not a cheater you can’t be bi because you “picked a side” Makes me wonder if straight people are constantly fighting the urge to cheat on their partners since they’re so convince it’s all we do

[@ludofratta2328]

I don't want to sound mean, but how can she be so delusional? Better than miley? Better than demi? Just because they had a "stray" moment or difficulties doesn’t mean that you are better because you just stayed on the path. And if you talk about celebrity status girlie you are not even close, sorry. Besides I would argue that you have been off the "right path" the whole time considering how she has been speaking, she just kept it out of the internet until she became confident/delulu enough to make it public. Just my opinion then again I don't know much about her, which may sound impossible for her, but from what I have seen she is ... a lot let's say

[@Dizzyjezibelle]

For real she is not giving her age and immaturity time to derail her yet. She is already millimeters from being canceled by hanging with and speaking up for the PDFs of KZbin. Jojo you have plenty of time to do dumb stuff you already lie the most so there's that.

[@mekiiiiiiiiii]

I‘m pretty sure that more people now Miley or Demi here in Germany 🤔

[@nataliecampos3787]

do u have a timestamp?

[@ludofratta2328]

@@nataliecampos3787 sorry nope, but it's a bit all over the video

[@ludofratta2328]

@@mekiiiiiiiiii in Italy for sure

[@456coolkid1]

I'm autistic and I struggle with eye contact. But I would still try and engage with Tana AND Brooke, it's THEIR podcast.

[@WinchesterGirl1998]

i was thinking about this too but seriously she doesn’t engage or go off anything brooke says…she just says “yeah” and after the episode with trish who asked brooke questions and talked to her it’s blatantly obvious she’s only talking to tana 😐

[@456coolkid1]

@@WinchesterGirl1998 Exactly. JoJo seemed so self-entitled.

[@younggrasshoppa14]

The difference here is Jojo seems to have no problem making eye contact with Tana

[@456coolkid1]

@@younggrasshoppa14 Exactly. She has no excuse for not interacting with Brooke

[@Welder.Barbie]

THIS

[@devfrancis7666]

Anytime someone says they grew up "comfortable but not rich" thats just code for rich... her dad was a chiropractor. She needs to be so fr with herself here 💀💀

[@a.m2707]

This is such a classic Tana move... she does something controversial to gain the attention and then has a perfectly good explanation for it. She gains followers and she maintains her status. It's a great marketing strategy

[@livrreloaded3338]

I could be wrong cause I just read it in a comment but apparently Brooke said they filmed this a week or a couple weeks ago so before the Colleen support from jojo

[@slsthewriter1299]

@@livrreloaded3338 I'm willing to bet the reason why it was delayed or took a while to get posted was because of the trailer they put in. That being said, though, I think Tana also knows what she's doing. Even if this wasn't entirely on her, she's definitely profiting off of it. xD

[@Elkura_xo]

I think that would be a massive risk. Jono could turn around and say that tana filmed after the other video was posted

[@emily847]

I follow tana and watch her stories and things day to day. Trisha talks in videos about tana having jojo on and how jojo is iconic before jojo went on howie Mandels podcast. This is really just a wild coincidence

[@a.m2707]

@Elkura_xo I'm not saying it wasn't filmed before. But she still released it knowing full well that she would get backlash for it. She knows what's up. She a business laydayyy 🤑

[@eevee241]

let’s not forget that Tana literally dressed up as a sexy version of JoJo Siwa when she was like 13

[@PrincessH.]

I forgot about that 😮

[@sammythewizard420]

didn’t trisha do something similar? or am i mistaken?

[@anneharlowe8534]

I always hate when people start stanning or labelling problematic people as girlboss baddie icon or some shit just because they didn't have any recent scandals and forget the list of controversies which they did not take accountability for. Sure, Tana has changed and grown but she has not taken accountability for some of her past actions and still continues to be problematic as we saw from the recent Cynthia scandal. Which in my opinion is one of her milder controversies, that says a lot.

[@hamilcross]

yoooo i completely forgot about that 😵‍💫

[@moon5153]

SO GROSS

[@irismoon8435]

I get the feeling Jojo is focusing on Tana because Tana's questions are inviting Jojo to talk about herself. When Brooke talks, Jojo is like "okay so when are you done so I can get back to talking about myself".

[@Poopiepies]

Can we take a minute and acknowledge that tana is complacent in allowing people to treat Brooke like shit. It’s like when your actual friend and the popular mean girl start getting close and icing you out.

[@noaelr554]

that stare adam did after jojo made that weird bisexual comment made me feel very validated as a bisexual person lmao

[@jayconvo]

22:08 - I don't think Jojo realizes HOW GOOD SHE HAS IT... the way she talks about how it all started... not taking from her hard work, but she was very blessed.

[@Kchance1220]

Adam did you notice when jojo invites just Tana to the viewing party for her new show.. she says yeah YOU can come instead of saying y’all or both of you can come. I thought that was so rude.

[@amandagaming5810]

She really pulled a James Charles on her first gf and you’re the only one to see that as wrong so far

[@amandagaming5810]

Choosing someone’s sexuality is really weird behavior

[@fovosprodromus5020]

i can't be bothered to listen to jojo's yammering :\ what exactly happened with her first gf? was jojo an adult and she wasn't?

[@HALATEEZ]

@@fovosprodromus5020 i think jojo mentioned that she was 16 and her gf at that time was 15. it went by really fast but it stuck with me for some reason

[@camilliatobler3810]

Can Colleen really not just go into her internet grave quietly? Does she have to drag literally everyone shes ever met with her into her tomb like some modern pharoh

[@amandabrown783]

Like some modern pharaoh 🤣🤣🤣 lmaooo

[@Sukisukigirl444]

That description is too good

[@dejuhvu1793]

This would be a great MeatCanyon episode. Maybe a part 2 or a jojo episode

[@vvotchme1576]

Ew ahistorical context.

[@marcelaperez4126]

Everyone who was part of it victims and instigators need to talk. People who are SAed by family neighbors or friend , there are other people involved who could’ve stopped this. So no. Cooleen does NOT deserve a peaceful leave.

[@SuperNovaDiva]

Thank you Adam for pointing out how she wanted pity points for being middle class. My family is "middle class" but our lives have never been as comfortable as she described it.

[@fioregiallo]

Then you're not middle class. "Middle class" lives comfortably, struggling means working class or below poverty line.

[@fioregiallo]

To be clear, for the time period before the show, JoJo was upper middle class. But now, middle class doesn't really exist anymore.

[@hannibalspectre637]

It’s a Shane Dawson line too isn’t it?

[@Ttlore]

It’s such a blatant lie that anyone could get out of dance moms at anytime. Jojo is literally white knighting for Abby and TLC when she made that statement while simultaneously trying to prove that she was ‘stronger’ than the girls that were verbally abused on the show

[@Ttlore]

Also, how has it not been mentioned by ANYONE UNTIL NOW that there was a child psychiatrist on set of dance moms?… unless there actually wasn’t one

[@katieeew]

I got so mad when Jojo was talking about that!! I haven't watched dance moms but like. Just because an abused child was told they can "leave at any time" (if that even is true) doesn't mean they feel like they safely can. They probably felt like there would be negative repercussions - that they'd be viewed as a failure, or their parents would be disappointed or they wouldn't have made money that their family needs or whatever other things they might have been told

[@philstrachan]

They were under very tight contracts - they couldn't walk away

[@lawofenvy]

Something odd Ive picked up on is Jojo persistently initializing her "Old self", saying that she was a baby and stuff when saying she was 15, 13, 11, ect ect. Additionally, when pushed, she says she believes that you have to be careful with underaged fans. Im under the impression she KNOWS What Colleen did was fucked up but she refuses to burn any bridge with people she "Looks up to" for her own convenience

[@fioregiallo]

🔨💅👤

[@hazel.p5]

she gets her attention and validation from the big youtubers who exploit her naivety. that's why she supports them. she wants to be accepted by the grown ups being who they are versus her brand to make herself look and feel more likable. that's all she's concerned with.

[@SocietalNoob]

Yup. Sadly that's product of the dance moms environment. Most girls grew to realize the only person they need validation from is themselves and that's why they denounce abby. Jojo may never get there. That's why all she can talk about is her work ethic and achievements.

[@SheIsBeautyFromAshes]

Jojo is so, so arrogant. She is and will grow to be even more to be a self-absorbed human being.

[@JungianHeights]

It’s because Abby always put her down.

[@white_isnt_a_race2338]

@@JungianHeightslol, what? You have zero understanding of psychology

[@JungianHeights]

@@white_isnt_a_race2338 That’s incorrect. Abby always told her she wasn’t special, so now she is overcompensating for it. It’s basic psychology really. 😉

[@charliephipps8349]

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@JungianHeightsThat may be one of they explanations for it, still doesn’t excuse it, also I’d say while some from Abby, I would bet most of it is just from the way she was brought up and the people she surrounds herself with, people who don’t believe their own shit stinks, she probably doesn’t get told no, or that she’s in the wrong very often.

[@JungianHeights]

@@charliephipps8349 I didn’t say it excuses it.

[@jessicaholscher4097]

"I was 14, and i was working like a 37 year old but I was filming like a 12 year old. you know, so i was kind of all over the place age-wise." This was fed to her by someone. who fed her this nonsense?

[@somethingelse4204]

Maybe Jojo is telling everyone who she is and we should believe her? I mean she's doing a lot unforced, unprompted. Maybe she's more like Colleen than anyone wants to think?

[@lovefool.99]

Bingooooo

[@408-m7q]

yes!

[@serenakillian1423]

Can we appreciate the look Brooke gave Jojo when she said “I learned how to talk to somebody when they don’t talk to you.”

[@ebal08]

Jojo has always been exhausting to listen or watch😮‍💨. Also Tana was stroking her ego so much she didn't even notice her co-host being completely ignored and pushed to the side.

[@ellencaldwell3140]

This seems like just a regular conversation between two rich people that really didn't need to be recorded 😅

[@Michelleistyping]

Brooke is that one friend in a three person friendship that’s always left out

[@amirrhodesve791]

I relate too heavily with Brooke

[@Vitasaurus]

Brooke is that one friend that walks behind when there's only space for 2 people on the pavement

[@Mikayla_Games24]

3 people friendships never work

[@brooklynnbailey4356]

me... also a Brook that's left out every fckin time 😭 it sucks so bad bc then ppl get mad at me bc I don't talk but when I do it's always like this, they dont hear me or talk over me entirely

[@ghostguru9156]

“I’m not going to pause it every time Jojo speaks over Brooke.” *proceeds to pause it every time Jojo speaks over brooke* 😂

[@abbsk.1]

It was every couple of minutes! Baby move on, we know Brooke is being ignored, can we acknowledge what they’re actually saying??

[@raigenhuss7030]

I think it’s weird that Brooke isn’t sitting in a position of interviewer to interviewee. At first glance this looks like Tana is interviewing Jojo and Brooke. She gave her most of the attention because she seems like the superior person in the room

[@moongoddess5550]

In my opinion this podcast always came off as a “chill” laid back podcast.. in my opinion I feel Tana should have included Brook into the conversation. If I were Tana I would be more aware of my fellow cohost if I notice she isn’t talking much or isn’t being talked too. I feel like it would be common sense for them to know to have each others back at times like this.

[@PrincessH.]

Brooke needs to be seated closer to Tana. I feel like the couch is so big and it could have helped Brooke at least a little bit. But yet again idk..

[@00st307-m]

I Agree 100%. The staging doesn’t help at all.

[@JagoffCitizen]

Exactly.

[@abbsk.1]

Tana and Jojo could’ve so easily traded spots

[@hellkitty98]

it really hurt to watch this because i am always Brooke in conversations. i sometimes don’t mind, but literally when i try to jump in i get talked over just how Brooke was. or i’ll be sitting there and no one really acknowledges me until randomly i’ll be zoning out that i’ll get hit with the “hey wow almost forgot you were here, you’ve been so quiet! what have been you been thinking about/what’s on your mind?” and literally when i get into some good dialogue of what i want to talk about and then i get talked over all over again. the worst though is when i’ll be really engaged and i’ll try to add my bit in but then i get talked over and the conversation completely changes and i’ll get sad/annoyed cause i had a really good story and something i love talking about but i feel awkward trying to bring it up again cause it seems like the moment passed but i wasn’t able to jump in. and then i zone out and passively listen cause no one has noticed that they’re blocking me out.. maybe i’ve been friends with wrong people.. it’s so hard to tell because i’m autistic and the social cues are so hard to understand. but yeah i totally feel Brooke in this podcast i didn’t even realize/i always ignore that i’m treated like this all the time ☹️ really hope she gets to speak out it’s the worst.

[@SharciMar]

SAME!!!!!!! Near the end when she's holding her knee/leg, I FELT that in my soul.

[@brooklynnbailey4356]

OMFG! SAME!!! Literally you just SPOKE MY MIND 😭😭😭 Some of my best friends are really good ppl but they do this to me a LOT & too often don't even realize it... & it's so disheartening & makes me not want to hang out as often bc why would I want to deal with being ignored?

[@veronicaballeza1937]

OMG ME TOO 😭 I recently cut off a friend for multiple reasons but this is one of the biggest ones. she would always talk over me. especially when we hung out with other people and then when I’d go quiet she’d repeatedly ask me “are you okay bro??”. which I always hated because she’d put me on the spot for something she caused. it would get to the point that I would start stuttering bc of how uncomfortable I felt, and instead of attempting to listen to me she would laugh which would usually lead the other people in the group to laugh too. I also struggle with social cues and eye contact but I’ve never been diagnosed for autism, maybe I should go get that checked out tho 😭

[@hellkitty98]

@@veronicaballeza1937 good for you though. i wasn’t able to do that myself, they just stopped talking to me cause that they also my coworkers but i got a new job. just shows who’s really there for me. i’m sorry you had to go through that though i hate that but totally get that. i recommend getting if you’re able to! i definitely struggle with both because of autism. i can do eye contact but never maintain it, i just, idk how people feel comfortable maintaining sue contact an entire conversation that’s just weird. i do hate though that because i struggle with social cues that some people/friends thinks it’s okay to just leave me out of conversation until they remember i’m there.. or talk over me. cause i’m ALWAYS the person that’s there to listen when another person is trying to talk but everyone else is ignoring them.

[@thelemonoftroy]

1. I don’t think Jojo even registers Brooke as a person “worthy” of her time bc Tana is the more famous one 2. Tana posted this for attention obviously. She knew she could post it, get attention and get even more attention for the follow up. She doesn’t care and she has no moral compass. She only cares about clicks

[@codirennke1109]

I feel like jojo thinks that she's cool bc she's "friends" with these older influencers that she grew up watching. She thinks she's more mature than people her age bc she was made to skip her childhood to work like an adult. But she doesn't see that these older influencers really can't relate to her. Most of them have childhoods. Most of them relate to people their own age or they diddle people younger. But the point is these older celebrities still see her as younger, but just like a character of fascination bc of how rich and famous she is. I dont thinkshe ever learned what a real connection and real vulnerability and real friendship looks like. So these people have her on their podcasts for the views, but they're essentially using her. But she sees it as I'm so smart and mature and everyone loves me so much. I really worry that jojo will end up being very problematic. Sure she has all the money in the world, but there is so much that money cannot replace especially in childhood. I'm afraid her morals and ethics and priorities could lead to her being abusive to others. I hope not.

[@canonicallycorrect]

jojo literally drives a rainbow lamborgini with her face all over it "jojo is so humble you guys!"

[@yourstrulymandaleigh]

when she said "i learned to talk to somebody when they don't talk to you" I SCREAMED, lmao 😆💀

[@ylianasyed]

i bet she calls herself adhd as an excuse to talk so much abt herself yet doesn't experience the debilitating symptoms of it

[@SammyIAm819]

Jojo uses her youth when it benefits her like when she makes a mistake “listen I was young” but then also claims “I was mature for my age” like she defects any responsibility

[@0T772]

I knew I didn't like the ponytail girl for a reason, the amount of disrespect shown to Brooke is insane, my anxiety is up there!!! Love you Brooke!!!!

[@desireechristensen196]

Ooof, not us dressing up as Madonna in the 80's and 90's... No no, Jojo started it all. 🙄 MC Hammer with Hammer pants could never!! Or at a Kiss concert.... Nope, it didnt happen until Jojo. 😂

[@cynthiaisako]

Lmao right ?!

[@SharciMar]

SO arrogant . I went to the Debbie Gibson concert back in the day dressed like her and I didn't have the benefit of buying a Debbie Gibson-branded hat. We had to DIY!

[@dp9828]

This! Or even Elvis' fans dressing as him if we wanna go back even further. The level of arrogance

[@CodeDeb]

JoJo is lying. She had told the girl (Kylie) on the 2019 cruise that she (JoJo) liked girls. Ky said that when she and JoJo later appeared on her mom’s podcast in 2020 (maybe 2021) when they were a couple

[@vans0nhead220]

“JUST SO YOU GUYS KNOW LADY GAGA LOVES ME ACTUALLY AND TISH CYRUS INVITED ME TO HER CHRISTMAS DINNER” - jojo is insufferable lol

[@Poopiepies]

Guarantee that stops this year lmao now they’ll all distance themselves until she fades into irrelevance

[@MadSassyHatter]

Jojo making that comment about the girl's sexuality really is giving James Charles.

[@tessachaplin8647]

One of the most out of touch celebrities. I couldn’t wait for this terrible podcast to end. Adam is the only way we can get through this hellish conversation.

[@paigeposey]

same vibe as when youre in public w your friend and you run into someone you know but they dont and you just talk to them for way too long

[@annak8755]

From what I remember Miley had a time where she literally didn't own her own name. I might be mistaken, but I don't believe Disney really gave the actors a big cut of the merchandise

[@amandamandamands]

I remember seeing an article where Tish said that they legally changed Miley's name when she was 16 to make sure Disney couldn't claim the name rights seeing as that was the character's name. The way that I read it Disney hadn't done anything more than the merch etc that they had done for the show and they wanted to make sure that they wouldn't lose the rights to using the name that Miley had always gone by.

[@irismoon8435]

This is honestly a little traumatic to watch, because as someone who is introverted and neurodivergent in a way that makes it difficult for me to navigate social situations, I have been ignored and bowled over in social situations for most of my life. I always make it a point to look at and engage with more quiet people in group settings, because I know how invisable one can feel and how painful that is. I have grown sooo much in the last decade and I now just walk away from those situations. I make my effort to converse and if I care enough about the people in the conversation, I'll express my struggles and see how things go from there. Otherwise I'm like...aha...this isn't going to get better and I go find something else to do. Also, as someone with these kinds of experiences, I can't help but want to point out that Tana could have done something to balance things out, if she cared to. Like Jojo isn't the only one ignoring Brooke.

[@lunamoon6390]

The way Jojo is currently acting is unacceptable but as someone whose been a casual fan of Jojo since her dance mom days I feel like there’s a lot of context I can provide as to WHY Jojo is acting that way and her current mindset… Jojo has always had her issues but I was sympathetic considering how she was raised. Her mom is a stagemom that basically groomed her to be a child star and doesn’t seem to have Jojo’s best interests at heart. For example, Jojo is actually a natural brunette but her mom has been bleaching her hair blonde since she was a TODDLER (2-years old), likely to make her stand out. Her mom also knowingly put Jojo on dance moms despite Abby’s infamous mistreatment (mind you Abby especially disliked Jojo and didn’t want her on Dance Moms but the producers insisted, so Jojo was treated even more harshly than others, Abby only started treated Jojo well after she left the show and became famous). Till this day, Jojo keeps contact with Abby and even DEFENDS Abby despite the mistreatment/abuse she suffered. All her other peers have cut off contact and have spoken about the negative impacts of the show. The fact that Jojo’s mom is the ONLY one to still allow her child to keep in contact with Abby is concerning. Jojo actually views her experience in the show as a positive one when there’s plenty of documented evidence of Abby being intentionally malicious towards Jojo. Jojo is unequivocally a victim of Abby and yet she defends her…I suspect that plays a part as to why she keeps defending the likes of Colleen and discrediting vicitms. Jojo has also been bullied by the internet as a CHILD for frankly, no reason other than being “cringe” and I suspect that’s part of the reason why she doesn’t take the “cancelling” (as she puts it) of ppl like Colleen/Shane seriously. Jojo was also slightly bullied/teased by her peers (and even adults on the show) for being “annoying” and “loud” and it seems to have affected her. I feel like that plays a role in how she views criticisms towards her. I’ve always hoped that Jojo would realize that the adults around her have failed and for her to finally accept that she was a victim…I wanted her to heal and move on but unfortunately it seems she’s becoming a worse person as time goes on. She’s an adult now, and frankly, I find it difficult to sympathize with her even knowing her background. At this point, I don’t think Jojo is going to ever acknowledge her mistakes. The people she’s surrounded by share her views and encourage it. Right now, I’m worried about the influence she has on younger kids and how the things she says could negative affect the kids watching her.

[@issiep327]

This was a painful watch 😭I cannot deal w Jojo’s arrogance

[@TtySprnklz]

I had a girl once tell me I could never be straight and I mean sat there and argued with me about my own sexuality. I was so annoyed I agreed to "date her for a few hours" just to prove the point that i am infact heterosexual. Its such a disrespectful thing to disregard someone else's sexuality and to press the matter. She quite literally pressured someone to eventually be able to date them. That not only comes of as immature but also extremely manipulative im my opinion.

[@thecarouselpitch]

A super young person saying, “I’ve always been really mature”, particularly in this context, is certainly a red flag. Of course Colleen would have told her that at age 12 when she was “inspiring her”.

[@queenofhorror29]

Right? Like you were a child, you’re not suppose to be more mature for your age!

[@no.future]

When she meet up with shane and talked about how being a lesbian is so difficult cause girls are dramatic felt so sexist and overall she seems like a toxic lesbian with her opinons on women and bi people

[@librawitxh1452]

This!

[@ElevatedEthereal]

A) jojo obviously wants to bone Tana B) Tana is not a good person and is a narcissist herself, who lets their friend get treated that way??? She couldve said oh what do you think Brooke or SOMETHING. She’s just sitting there fucking giggling and eating it up. C) I would’ve kicked Jojo’s ass disrespecting me so blatantly

[@LizStaples]

This! Two blonde girls who love hearing their own voices who are kinda obsessed with eachother. Gross

[@queenofhorror29]

@@LizStaplescan we please stop with the blonde girl stereotype? The issue is that they are ignoring Brooke and leaving her out of the conversation

[@LizStaples]

@@queenofhorror29 they are the absolute stereotype of bottle blondes. It isn’t just the leaving Brooke out of the conversation it is the self aggrandizing conversation as well.

[@queenofhorror29]

@@LizStaples putting women in different stereotypes is weird and dehumanizing, first off. And secondly, being self absorbed and ignoring people are not traits that only blonde women possess. The funny thing about all this is that Tana and jojo aren’t natural blondes, so hair color means absolutely nothing.

[@LizStaples]

@@queenofhorror29 their choice to be bottle blonde actually does say something. There is privilege tied to being able to keep bottle blonde hair camera ready (it takes time, labor, and resources) Bottle Blonde is also meant to emphasize youthfulness as hair darkens with age and hormone changes due to things like pregnancy. Tana and JoJo rely on being blonde as part of their branding. They aren’t even attempting a “natural blonde” look so commenting on them being blonde is obviously not about people who are blonde or even those who go for a natural blonde dye job. You are being overly defensive, these two put themselves in a box and have a shared characteristic if you share that trait maybe you should consider why.

[@Darbyc8286]

They should have put Brooke next to Tana. This whole set up is just weird. I’ve always thought it was weird to exploit the child stars like that. Their face being everywhere.

[@lilacocean4137]

thank you for speaking up about bi-erasure i really appreciate it. i encounter it so much and it's pretty disheartening. as a bisexual who feels validated i really appreciate you 🩷💜💙

[@dejuhvu1793]

Yeah I’m not sure what was going on with JoJo & Brooke. I also think Tana didn’t help & ignored Brooke too. I get that JoJo & Tana were already friends, but it was obvious JoJo was not even interested in giving her any attention. I remember watching this & chuckled when she said she was from a middle class family but her mom owned a dance studio & her dad was a chiropractor 😂

[@Poopiepies]

Let’s not forget that the “middle class upbringing” had an APARTMENT AND A HOUSE. Both

[@britbit101]

Im glad that the first friend i ever told that I was bi didnt respond the way that jojo did to her friend because i would have felt so invalidated and dismissed.

[@findtheeyes]

"I started the whole wearing a costume thing at the concert." Madonna, who? Britney, who? Gaga, who? Spice Girls, who? Probably-tons-more-artists-I-can't-think-of-at-the-moment, who? Good grief, the arrogance.

[@EvieStanding]

I love that when Trish went on cancelled it seemed more genuine and they all engaged so well with eachother Trish was great at listening to both girls

[@letycherra7485]

Not the first time I’ve seen Jojo ignoring ppl like this , she was on a recent Shane Dawson video and he was with his family who was really excited to meet her and she barely even looked at them , only talked to Shane the whole time.

[@raven_moonshine39]

Just from rate that she name drops, she's definitely overly obsessed with fame

[@Serzzle]

Adam I fuckin love you, you just seem like such a kind person. I feel like you’re the type of person who makes an effort to listen to everyone and pay special attention to the person that everyone talks over. You’re just such a genuine person who deserves all your success❤️

[@orangepencil7]

Tbf, I think the arrangement on the couches and mics were terrible. Brooke and Tana should've been closer together to make it easier on the guest to talk towards the both of them. The way JoJo's mic is angled is also towards Tana. It doesn't seem like she's intentionally ignoring Brooke, but that it's more of a byproduct of the seating and mic situation

[@slsthewriter1299]

From watching Trisha's episode though, that's not an excuse. Compared to Trisha, who was *so* open with Brooke and acknowledged her right from the jump, Jojo did not really try. Her focus was solely on Tana, then a brief exchange whenever Brooke spoke up.

[@hellkitty98]

as an autistic person it definitely bothered me how they had the set up but even i would’ve angled my body more or something to include Brooke in conversation.

[@coffee8599]

Yes, i think the same.. as in it wasn't super intentional, but didnt have enough self awareness to reposition herself.

[@charliephipps8349]

So you’re telling me you’re not able to turn your head to the side to talk to someone like most people do every fucking day :| it’s really not that hard to not ignore someone are you actually serious, iTs cUs of thE seaTing arrAnGEmeNt. I’m sorry but let’s not take away her literal human functions to pathetically excuse her clear bullshit actions.

[@brooklynnbailey4356]

​@@hellkitty98THIS. Exactly what I was thinking

[@Nicole-zh7pl]

Lmao "we gotta soldier through this x2!" Immediatley Tana: "fibedabibasolitafewepanaysegapoota!" Adam: ".........ok how about we slow it down a little"

[@sopanhs]

jojo is definitely being rude to brooke. like trishas interview on the podcast is the perfect example on how you should treat two podcast host that are interviewing you. everytime brooke made a comment or asked trisha a question she would always make sure to look at her and answer the question/comment as well as make conversation with brooke back and do the same. if you're going to join a podcast with two host you can't just ignore one and not the other its basic manners whether it's on a podcast or talking to people irl. also to add on they also definitely need to change their layout and how they're sitting cause having tana facing the guest directly and brooke on the side quite literally in the corner is so stupid cause this will continue to happen.

[@name.333]

top moments: - jojo saying that her accidentally shading candace cameron is the worst thing she's ever done - jojosaying she's more relevant now than miley cyrus and demi lovato in terms of fame and popularity

[@ripley4884]

jojo is hellbent on collaborating and/or supporting the worst people on the internet and it's not what i expected on my 2023 bingo card

[@fioregiallo]

"we were living in a one bedroom apartment" AS WELL AS OWNING A HOUSE. They only got the apartment because of the show and filming. That's important to clarify, and really lame for Jojo to act like they were barely making it lol. There's a huge difference between not enough space vs not enough money to live.

[@nicolejordan5977]

God Jojo had some other crazy takes in this besides being horrible to Brooke like supporting Abby (which I already knew she did) and Olivia Jade?!?

[@SelenaStarzz]

I’m sorry ….. did they ACTUALLY say that giving up their childhood was worth it for the paycheque?? Like tell me you’re not grounded, without telling me you’re not grounded. Jo-Jo is so….ugh. No.

[@brooklynnbailey4356]

THISSS! IDK how he didn't stop to fully address that!!!

[@cjbk-unlimited]

Thanks for the support for bisexuality visibility Adam ❤🎉 it's so isolating to try to connect with LGBT+ folks only to hear and feel that they don't really accept you, don't think your feelings are real or say stuff like they are just "waiting for us to decide" etc. It always hurt to feel that our "friends" are only interested in the version of us they want us to be, and not just accepting us as we are. Love to see people supporting people. ❤

[@e_aa518]

first, thank you for calling out her nasty comment about bisexuality!! second- i admire anyone who can process what they’re saying when it’s sped up 💀💀 anything over 1.25 is like gibberish to me. also, poor brooke. ive been that person in a conversation before and it sucks so bad.

[@CLP334]

Jojo is so rude and dismissive! Brooke is as much a host of the podcast as Tana.

[@lonewizzy]

Fun fact: Sasha Cohen Baron was originally supposed to play Freddie Mercury in BR, but he wanted to portray Freddie in a much more "detailed" and realistic light than the movie portrayed. He left production, and after looking again, Rami was eventually cast 💕

[@1moola]

Thanks for addressing the bi erasure. When someone is leaving someone else out, I try to include the excluded person. I'm a little surprised Tana didn't address Brooke more.

[@wendikookoocatchoo9485]

My sister worked for a private security company in California a few years ago. One overnight shift was at JoJo's mansion. Huge place, a few fancy cars, completely gated and kind of remote . Huge property. She briefly met her when her food delivery arrived and she brought it to the door. She was very polite. My sister told me it was remote enough she had to drive 10 mins to a gas station to use the bathroom on a quick break(common, i mean who wants strangers in their home). She met her mom briefly as well. The point is, 2 years ago, this happened, no freaking way did JoJo not know she's rich. Lmao.

[@marsvic]

Agreed the layout is confusing, but guesting & hosting are both arts. Both parties could be more practiced in the art of conversation and taking turns… it shows the immaturity of Jojo as well as the professional level of all involved. for everyone saying it’s not that deep, I mostly agree. That said, Brooke being disrespected and uninvolved is a long-standing issue for the pod and her body language indicates a negative experience.

[@abbthebear]

also, not tana's podcast being posted a day before bisexual awareness day with the biphobia 😮‍💨

[@onedancingdinosaur]

I cannot believe jojo went on this podcast and said she would gladly go on dance moms again. That show was downright abuse, and its funny that she even says that taking into account that Abby HATED her, and she was barely on the show as much as the other girls were. To say most of them have come out of the show saying "f this" makes it very clear most of those girls felt awful about what abby said and did to them. It reads as very insensitive imo. "Remember where you came from" shouldnt include shows that featured verbal abuse to minors.

[@uninvincibleete]

"My mom was the best" followed immediately by "I started on reality TV when I was 9" is... oof.

[@dreambrush7251]

Tana honestly is so 2 faced tho. She went to Trisha's (at this point victim of Colleen's abuse) house, held her baby, did together a podcast then she goes on to be all friends with Jojo Siwa, somoene who publicly defended Colleen and basically called her victims liars. You'd think that her PR team would tell her that this is a conflict of interest but at this point her team seems to be non existent.

[@malpal1213]

This!!! This point is hugely important

[@jcook910]

Omggg Jojo claiming she struggled b.c her and her mom "had" to share a one bedroom! They CHOSE that to pursue a dream. When you truly struggle financially, you're not affording a second home! Omg that's infuriating. Just thinking about the times I had to share a 2 bedroom basement apartment with my mom, sister, aunt and 2 cousins...just makes me wanna slap her....metaphorically lol.