Jon Gruden’s emails were ‘shocking!’ - Jeff Saturday | First Take

[@Rio909ONT]

This is where max is missed the most.

[@stopcampin4097]

He reacted go to his show simple

[@Rio909ONT]

@@stopcampin4097 but he can get more views being here.

[@JayRealTalk]

Now Antonio brown doesn’t sound crazy huh 🤣

[@Trelle1099]

AB was RIGHT. He was right about the Raiders, Steelers, Big Ben, Juju. All of it. I can’t believe it

[@beyond5323]

THIS

[@cloakfx4650]

@@Trelle1099 exactly feel bad for him he was extremely talented but he did do a lot of out of pocket things

[@rocketcowboy6462]

Facts

[@eddiea9658]

Ray Rice got suspended for 2 games after he punched his wife out cold. Tom Brady got suspended for 4 games for “Deflategate”, Jon Gruden gets fired for a racist email he sent 10 years ago. Black Lives really do matter.

[@tigerhoods7927]

Lol is it really shocking I expect that from these types of people

[@adamross4295]

It's only bad if you get caught!

[@sircarlos7107]

All Keyshawn knew is that Chucky was grimy

[@frankheck2854]

Keyshawn owes chucky for the ring lol

[@mauriciokrebs2913]

@@frankheck2854 gruden owns the ring to the players

[@geraldfleeton5810]

Nothing in 2021 should shock anybody.

[@frankheck2854]

exactly, if they expose all private emails we would be seeing stuff like this from everyone

[@carlosanaya4149]

Exactly.

[@lacedricgipson4295]

Jeff Saturday really said in the trenches

[@tonypreston7278]

It’s hilarious and ironic to see ESPN take the moral high ground when Gruden literally worked for them. Meanwhile, SAS is still employed, and ESPN is owned by Disney. This makes me laugh out loud.

[@arod927-01]

So hypocritical.

[@36cmbr]

Is there a point to what you are saying, Bud.

[@scruffmcgruff3478]

Did these emails come out when he worked for ESPN, or did they come out last week? Because if the answer to that is as obvious as it is, it kinda takes the wind of your sails with that point…?

[@tonypreston7278]

@@36cmbr yes. ESPN has no right to lecture others on morality

[@shanaeverowe9626]

@@36cmbr his point is SAS has said similar things over the years, has gotten at worst a " I am so sorry" slap on the wrist and keeps his job.

[@koledvorak3390]

I think Gruden deserves an award. Political correctness is cancer.

[@constantineedmundson7778]

This is not even the beginning!

[@frankheck2854]

It's shocking because you usually don't see private conversations being made publicly. I still want to see what's in Biden's laptop lmao

[@AW-kj3ln]

I want to see whats on your laptop as well!

[@rotisseriebear5394]

@@AW-kj3ln I'll put up mine for forensic scrutiny, against Hunter's. lol. My dirty laundry is run of the mill. Boring. I don't have a "Big Guy". I don't have a job on a board of directors of a company that doesn't speak English in a field that I have no knowledge or background.

[@AW-kj3ln]

@@rotisseriebear5394 Yea homie idk about politics, you just seem like a fellow up to some dastardlier deeds

[@SenseTalk1017]

@@AW-kj3ln 😂😂😂😂😂

[@blackoutgang09]

Its not private if you are using the BUSSINESS email. Dumbo

[@teamjones8338]

If Jon Gruden is going to be targeted as a racist. I only feel like it is only fair that everyone in the NFL needs to have their backgrounds put in check. Owners, coaches, presidents, players, referees, everyone..everyone..everyone....This is unfair.

[@g.choppa4448]

Dont forget , racist, homophobic, anti semetic, mysogynistic, etc. . He did it to himself.

[@johnconover52]

Oh please! Shocked my a$$. The NFL wanted Gruden gone for some reason.

[@rockydee2967]

So the privileged white guy who took a team built by Dungy to the SuperBowl along with all the credit, gets pushed to the front of the line ahead of other qualified coaches to lead the Raiders for 100 million is the victim now? GTFOH😂😂😂

[@nivanfields7389]

ESPN needs to look into the connection between Will Cain and Jon Gruden during his stint at ESPN.

[@mauriciokrebs2913]

everybody acting like they didnt work with him for years

[@ToneSoCooL3]

Absolutely no context unless we can read them. I don't see them accessible to the mainstream.

[@mojosodope45]

Gotta love how it’s only Gruden. Like nobody else in the nfl sent emails like that. Every single person associated with the nfl should have their emails accessed going back at least ten years and let’s see how many people don’t have something offensive in there. The nfl would be shut down. But can’t do that. Too much money to be made so let’s blame all of it on gruden. Lmao. Ok.

[@kiroc89]

Mic players on the field of a heated rivalry lol

[@betsyd58]

That's coming......trust and believe

[@sterlinsingleton7349]

What exactly were the emails beside the rubber lips?

[@dwalkeradz]

When stuff like this comes out, people want to brush it under the rug and only talk "sports". This story absolutely needs to and should be covered daily. Gruden will not be the only one falling on the proverbial sword. Good riddance.

[@revanminnam5512]

Facts. I hate people who try to defend Gruden, claiming that people are soft.

[@williamtaylor5193]

Live by the sword, die by the sword. Be careful what you wish for.

[@mike6764]

Leaking those emails was snitching. We have become a nation of tattletales. How low we have sunk. His emails were private conversations period.

[@mtatom3]

Wrong they were investigating emails of the Washington Football team president for misconduct and they came across the email they were sending to each other. They were dumb enough to use the NFL’s employee email addresses which they have all access to .

[@jayregal6478]

GRENADE? This is a NUCLEAR WEAPON!

[@ThatDoesntWorkForMeBrother]

It will be an exploded nuclear weapon once all of the 650,000 emails are made public.

[@g.choppa4448]

@@ThatDoesntWorkForMeBrother What emails ?

[@dasweinershitzel108]

LMFAO...... lips the size of Goodyear tires

[@upstatecommunications9031]

"Michelin" tires! Lol

[@nigolt.4345]

Oh no Stephen Smith was takin aback. Oh mercy, he was taken aback.

[@randyanglin3765]

I really wonder what Stephen P. Smith's emails for the last ten years would show? hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[@mauriciokrebs2913]

oh they are all so surprised

[@SteveSmith-br3vu]

Guarantee everyone on this panel has emailed or DMd harsh stuff as well. Let’s dig through their emails and see

[@sexxxcblac]

I haven't but I can tell YOU HAVE;;;;;allegedly.

[@vickensarkis5288]

Dungy the best Christian valued coach.

[@SuperKpill]

Another victim of cancel culture.

[@rotisseriebear5394]

I'm trying to find the actual quotes of his emails. All I hear are videos about how people "feel" about his emails. As Jesse Jackson said, "You take the text out of context, and you got pretext." Personally, I cut people slack for a little bit of prejudicial thinking. I've been accused of all sorts of bad things, based soley on being "white" by lots of hispanics, and blacks, and even had them act out with hostility on their pre judgement of me. Sometimes, it happened on the construction site while I was covering for their mistakes, and bad attitude. It's really a pain to deal with, but I still took care of my crew, and only kicked people out of my crew who refused to "run the play that was called", but not for talking back, or even accusing me based on racial stereotypes. I want to see the actual text. I could give two sh*&s about how these guys feel. I'll decide how I feel independently.

[@laniasmith4439]

If that many Hispanic and African American people are accusing you of things maybe it's time to stop thinking everybody else is wrong and take a look in the mirror.

[@sexxxcblac]

You actually sound like some clown who was worthy of all the accusations hurled your way. Playing the victim card again....huh. I would sure like to read some of the comments of the guys you kicked out of your ALLEDGED crew.

[@magiccutter85]

Talk about something else.

[@mikebryant8507]

You can move along.

[@key-tg1ih]

Watch something else

[@xbotnpc420]

It’s 2021 we will no longer tolerate this divisive cowardly talk. Closet racist like to talk tough behind closed doors and keyboards but once you call them out and confront them they sing a different tune…

[@spikepit7256]

Shocking! It shocked my body I’ve been paralyzed I’m shocked

[@brandon_jo_el]

I am not offended.

[@ishmaeldarjean2757]

Neither am I. But looking at from a football and PR standpoint it looks bad.

[@Whoknowswhere12]

More bs.. espn keeps telling us how awful the emails were without showing or saying what’s in the emails in context

[@ronalddesilva8730]

The woke media at play again

[@mikebryant8507]

Racism in context. Tell me your racist without telling me

[@arod927-01]

@@mikebryant8507 how does that make him racist?

[@mikebryant8507]

@@arod927-01 Your own prejudice is your problem

[@gilbertmimmenger4290]

Why is woke or virtue signaling considered bad? What word we live in today when people that consider themselves religious decent people thing virtues is a bad thing, then we doomed. ISAIH 15:20 VERSE 20 "Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter!"

[@persistentlydriven9390]

This is the most offended tender generation ever ! Gawdamn. Randy moss on there crying was embarrassing

[@DrSamwpepper]

$500 says you had your mic off in MW2 lobbies.

[@xbotnpc420]

Let’s use derogatory words to talk about you and your family then? Remember you can’t get mad cuz you from the “tough and hard generation”

[@persistentlydriven9390]

@@xbotnpc420 🗣🤣🤣 bro been there lived it got through it . What’s your point ?

[@taggartkrueger3592]

Funny that it’s purely an NFL culture problem and not an ESPN culture problem even though he was employed by ESPN at the time…

[@Alexodeya6925]

Who cares !!! We’ve all said something we regret in our life.

[@laniasmith4439]

You should just speak for yourself. Ive said a lot of embarrassing stuff but I've never said anything that would get me fired if it became public. Just because there are bad people doesn't mean everyone's bad.

[@blackoutgang09]

@@laniasmith4439 Thank you!...well said.

[@reno419rockstar]

@@laniasmith4439 yes you have. It only takes a few people to have a problem with whatever you have said, then make it public on social media. What about the things you've said in the bedroom? What about things you've gossiped about? What about things you've said about people during high school years? We have all said inappropriate things that we hope will never go on social media.

[@mikeyincalif]

Exactly…… people are lying through their teeth if they say that they’ve never used so called offensive language towards someone. USA, get over it !!!

[@charlesalexander4872]

Overall I feel like these media personalities are sympathetic towards Jon!

[@sexxxcblac]

Lets be truthful Charles, a certain COLOR media personalities are sympathetic towards Jon ! And what are they afraid of ....losing control of the narrative and its nothing new just ask the NBA owners. The NFL fears that the minority who is the majority will suddenly realize how much power they have and consolidate like NBA players did and start running things like MONEY. That's why they ADLEGEDLY leaked the emails so JG can be fired or resign so the light that was being shined on NFL owners can go away and I bet you there's a lot more emails implicating a lot more people than some coaching pawn. And let me say this.....Jon G better hope he doesn't find himself in somebodies river with " Michelin Tires " tied around his ankles because if he starts getting mad from taking all the relentless heat that's now coming his way, don't be surprised if he starts singing like a canary

[@edd06001]

could be, but they want to keep their jobs at ESPN, so they have no choice but to kick the man down.

[@billjames7495]

They should be !!!!!!! This happened 10 Years Ago !!! Hello???!! Wake up Anerica !! Im so done with the brain dead main stream media's take on all these Cancel Culture Cases !!!!!

[@billjames7495]

@@edd06001 Agree 100%, if they don't criticize Gruden they'll be the next victim of cancel culture GUARANTEED !!!!!

[@ZoDrama]

Smh he shoulda stayed on MNF

[@ThatDoesntWorkForMeBrother]

Gruden still would’ve been outed.

[@ZoDrama]

That’s tough bro ima black man and I actually like gruden I don’t know what was said and I don’t care all I know is that man had no business taking that raiders gig he was on his way on being John madden when it comes to football analysis I personally never liked raiders move at al

[@DoddyS]

Meanwhile 22 women have a sexual assault lawsuit against Deshawn Watson, words matter 👍🏼🏈

[@sexxxcblac]

Are you one of um DODDY ?

[@DoddyS]

@@sexxxcblac Yes I am, as my gender identity is my own internal sense of self 🇺🇸

[@philm.6113]

If Gruden only slammed dogs to death onto concrete, he would be back in a few years.

[@jorgevecinocastro3407]

I don't see Vick that much on TV. I think he is on FOX sooooo...

[@chrisssss4116]

Molly looks weird

[@Carolina_Panthers145]

Those emails are no surprise

[@sowelldon]

America the sensitive

[@pigs6486]

6:02 Did he really though? Who’s actually offended?

[@MrRedfoxx1989]

Used car salesmen today: *Arthur Fist*

[@joeym2197]

What did he say that was racist? Genuinely curious

[@i.d.modisett9176]

There was a comment about some dudes big lips, and another comment about big lips means liars. All I found so far. But he said he didn’t mean anything by it.

[@skalamaz3]

Nothing.

[@erikbunty2016]

Any member of any race can have big lips.

[@ricbradley5323]

Raiders fan here. Glad Gruden is gone. Also, all the sets look great Raidered out.

[@lottofever3061]

Raiders going downhill from here buddy

[@dwightphillips7578]

How can I see the emais?

[@21babyjoker]

So we had a president that used worse words while in office , yet a coach can't vent.. dammm.. smh

[@Bobobaggins1380]

Glad to see the "saints" are meeting

[@reno419rockstar]

Welcome to the 🐈 era.

[@tren35]

Its the welcome wagon.

[@mikeyb8298]

Stephen a.the saint now but remember how he went off on Ohtani???

[@jorgevecinocastro3407]

That was Strike 2. He is 3-2.

[@EverythingIsMahogany]

Caught him wit the Hillary Clinton

[@demariohammond1063]

Some shi bout to come out. I’m sure Gruden isn’t the only one.

[@thomasfriday1]

Jeff Saturday = My weekend cousin

[@fadercreek]

Not only this but the nfl also has to deal with the Washington and st Louis situation..... Let's see what happens

[@titanmasterrace4000]

What happened?

[@newera5238]

I believe most of us said something racist at some point in life. Honestly theses days, at this age with experience, nothing really (shocks) or strongly (offend) me🤷

[@Rjthatguy8232]

THANKS FOR WATCHIN ESPN ON KZbin -Stephen A

[@gettingcyngoffytfighter8477]

Shocking? im not suprised

[@tmoney7643]

In order to “be offended” I must first care… let’s be clear, I don’t give AF about Gruden before or after this incident… therefore I don’t care about what he says or thinks, he can’t offend me. Ask yourself when you say it “offends” you, do you really give af what this man says or thinks? If so, it’s a harsh world out there, and you better toughen up, shitty people never go away.

[@jeremygeorge671]

Emails are personal Everybody have said something on their on time This is bull

[@KevinMichael2018]

I’d like to see texts between athletes about white coaches I wonder what kind of language they use. This is getting out of hand

[@crazynice32]

Company emails vs personal texts? You don’t see the difference?

[@michaelwillis9697]

Ah yes, If one person does something wrong everyone else must be doing something wrong as well. -_-

[@lorddonk9806]

@@crazynice32 gruden wasn't employed by the NFL from 2011-2018.

[@lorddonk9806]

@@michaelwillis9697 that's ironically the argument people are using while condemning gruden

[@crazynice32]

@@lorddonk9806 you’re missing the point I didn’t say who he was employed by these were emails he sent to the Washington head and was uncovered due to their investigation so once again personal texts vs company emails

[@glenneubanks3080]

Where is JON GRUDENS brother who coached the WASHINGTON football team ? Is he still somewhere in the LEAGUE . RACIST gets. their power from the system and organizations that employ them. The brother of his was cut from 5he same cloth consider RG3"s career under him and Bruce Allen.

[@bobbib5779]

who released these emails? stuff like this bothers me because the closet person doesnt worry me as much as the open person that shows his cards and the media doesnt speak about that person but a person as far as i know that never had conflict with other players . to now have to resign because his comment to a friend was off base ehhh im not to sure about

[@freddygaulman5493]

Besides the Smith comments I actually agree with Gruden. Didn't SAS say years ago that teams shouldn't be forced to draft Michael Sam???

[@EPIC3Fifths]

He most certainly did!

[@Trelle1099]

But Stephen A. didn’t say what Gruden said. Don’t leave out context and don’t play stupid. You know what Gruden said.

[@tonypreston7278]

@@Trelle1099 so you’re just going to ignore Stephen A’s blatant racism because it doesn’t fit your narrative?

[@Trelle1099]

@@tonypreston7278 if you’re referring to Stephen A’s comments about the baseball player then no. No one ignored that. He acknowledged how racially insensitive it was that he said it and grew from it. See how that works? But y’all are here defending Jon Gruden by deflecting and pointing back to Stephen A. Show me where Stephen A. has emails of him saying the same stuff Jon Gruden did. Over a 10 year span. I’ll wait. Y’all ain’t fooling no one. Then you’ll make it politically when it’s not. It’s simple. Jon Gruden is who he is and there’s no defending that.

[@nicholas4727]

It's not what he said per se. It's the slur he used.

[@jayregal6478]

Take a look at MIKE MAYOCK!

[@jordanclark6972]

Is this all they’re gonna talk about today

[@frankheck2854]

yes, how many times do you get to crucify a white guy in sports LOL

[@gilbertmimmenger4290]

Freedom of speech is good but doesnt give right to opress others or try to limit others freedoms. Why is woke or virtue signaling considered bad? What word we live in today when people that consider themselves religious decent people think virtues is a bad thing, then we doomed. ISAIH 15:20 VERSE 20 "Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter!"

[@BB-rs2ib]

Because the people virtue signaling aren’t even virtuous themselves and they make a show of it because they are fake people.

[@antt4998]

You got mostly black players with 2 faced white coaches of course it's a culture problem. Need more black coaches!

[@PHXAZ]

Kinda funny Richie Incognito plays for the raiders. Guess he gets a pass😂 Raiders are Trash🗑 Mark Davis a scary looking Clown 🤡

[@spikepit7256]

Simple f stop letting kids play football.. play flag be happy and safe nothing wrong with that

[@austinclark007]

The virtue signallers are going to milk this story dry.

[@mikebryant8507]

Quit being racist. Easy solution

[@xbotnpc420]

And the fake tough hard guys will follow that dog whistle defending Gruden.

[@BB-rs2ib]

@@mikebryant8507 the morons mantra- “racist”.

[@SHERIFF565r]

@@mikebryant8507 It's not like smoking cigarettes dummy. You're either racist or you're not.

[@RobbieSantana]

Steven A…🤦‍♂️ still has a job on espn and able to give comments on this stuff?! 🤦‍♂️

[@jtdags5064]

3:30 4:00 5:30

[@arod927-01]

They weren't that bad, everyone is freaking out a little too much. As for coaching, he wasn't doing a good job though

[@mikebryant8507]

Says the Caucasian

[@ricbradley5323]

Whites have it ez

[@dwalkeradz]

Let's see, he made offensive remarks about homosexuality, women, comments that can be taken as racist and who knows what else. Tell me why what he said wasn't that bad?

[@arod927-01]

@@dwalkeradz wha

[@xbotnpc420]

@@arod927-01 you the little type 🤏🏽🤏🏽🤏🏽🤏🏽

[@davidlawson2043]

Jon gruden didn't say anything that should cost him his job. He said things that every guy says every day. The only thing shocking is how sensitive people are these days

[@ddstorted]

Lol it ain’t shocking

[@lottofever3061]

The emails were funny af lol yall soft af

[@robertkim3331]

i dont know how you going to compare the nba to the nfl The nba makes no where near the money the nfl does even though the nba is a global brand (china) so at the end of the day it dont matter

[@sandman1347]

Per capita the NBA is doing waaaaaay better than the NFL. Too many hands in the NFL cookie jar.

[@yisraelthebesorah]

Yahuah loves us

[@rodnie20204]

This all y’all gone talk bout on da show 😂😂?

[@craigcanning5836]

quick call the virtue signalling police the hypocrites are speaking

[@Bryxn-dg2bk]

I thought this was the “National Football League”. Can we actually talk about football?

[@mikebryant8507]

This is about football.

[@xbotnpc420]

Get your head out the sand.

[@36cmbr]

Is this click bait? So what are the racist and sexist tropes that he reportedly said. Without being offensive, White people think they are better than others based on a special status at birth. When they relax among each other, this thinking plays out in disturbing ways such as is demonstrated by this instance. When I rhetorically ask, "so how is that working for you". The answers are predictively vulgar and witless. I conclude that the racial question has been and is painful for Blacks, but it is even more painful for Whites. If the Western World Enlightenment is not what we thought it would be, i.e. an example of majority rule, egalitarian justice and the art of high living, it is nothing at all. God is cheated and she is not happy about it.

[@carlosanaya4149]

The world we live in. On a more serious note 📝. That woman is smoking hot! 😮😍

[@miggy_1999]

Smh

[@sfbnnncmv]

go look at all the blacks racist e mails

[@dlxinfinite7098]

Whataboutism. Wah-wah-wah...stop whining

[@xbotnpc420]

“Shocking”

[@jctslice]

Agreed. This dude is an absolute DISGRACE

[@bigj6143]

Watch what you say or send in emails it follows you like you murdered somebody. Am I saying what was said was okay? Never. Am I saying what you say should follow you for a decade or more, a lifetime? Not saying that either but that is where SOME of us stand these days under the Microscope of life. Gruden was apologetic but in no way, like Thom Brennaman's comments, is that ever going to be good enough. However, take Jaylen Rose and what he said involving Kevin Love before the Summer Olympics, not 10 years ago in an email either, three months ago, and the different way of looking and handling these situations is absurd to say the absolute least. Rose is still plastered all over NBA media and telecasts. How do you be fair? You don't by pretending. We are in a pretend world where it comes to racism and even hate in the U.S. We know what it is yet we pretend it isn't under certain circumstances. Racism or discrimination in the dictionary is not accompanied by exceptions but in real life it is. We in essence are calling people dumb who are not dumb. Like certain politics people see the unfairness they see the truth in between all the lies. Thus people with any sense avoid groups and situations who think they are doing good things, good deeds, representing something they feel is a worthy cause. It is to them if they fit into certain categories where they use it to segregate themselves. BLM, civil rights, homosexual movements, transgender things, LGBTQ, all these crusades many people avoid it all because getting involved in it is not always living the truth and because in groups we all just simply don't fit in to it. Being asked, even directed, literally expected to care when your human choices say it doesn't involve you. It all results in being segregated (again) while you expect others to clean up the mess that frankly these crusade groups also had a very active part in creating. Many fingers get pointed but the mess they created is far from being cleaned up. Who made the mess? Then who should clean it up? Talking about poverty stricken inner city neighborhoods that have life but no maintenance or upkeep in their homes, businesses, their community. Who is supposed to clean that up? The few who live there that give a darn? They are not even close to the majority because the majority want someone else to come in and clean it up so, quite frankly, like a bad investment, they can destroy it again, mainly by letting it slip beyond repair. High expectations with little to no maintenance. You ask and others always give? They will give some many more than their fair share too but that soon runs out. You then avoid and run away. Like Afghanistan, you help those in order for them to be able to help themselves. It is that last part that 99% of the time fails. Fails by a landslide. An opportunity is afforded to so many of us but without the work and goals YOU are willing to do and achieve what then? Someone else's fault?

[@upstatecommunications9031]

Paragraphs, my man. Paragraphs....

[@sexxxcblac]

Oh my goodness Tim....really ?????? Guys like you are slowly dwindling away. Your voices are trending towards ill-relevancy. The JGs & TJs of the world need to understand you can't just say anything you want anymore. JG got cancelled. DEAL WIT IT and move on

[@MrGoldfish30]

Your one of the best coaches, f the woke mob u said nothing that wasn't true.

[@javierbookshadowscontribut6223]

233rd comment

[@DuragVon]

Talk about something else

[@mikebryant8507]

Move along

[@ricbradley5323]

College football is weak

[@AK-pz7om]

I see that Aggie L has you extra salty on this Tuesday afternoon 😂😂😂