Jonathan Ayling On The Political Neutrality Bill

[@ryankanton]

It is bloody ridiculous

[@Soundslikeauproblem]

Well I guess I won’t be using a licensed real estate agent again until this stupidity ends. I’ll pay for my own marketing and sell privately.

[@Winstonsmithsalias]

Most Maori would agree with Johnathon. The ones that don’t aren’t buying a house anytime soon. National party voters must be regretting their choice voting for Luxon, who talked a big game and now MIA.

[@geofflewis8599]

Luxon is a coward and a traitor.

[@operatorsix6933]

@@geofflewis8599 bingo.

[@brucegibbins3792]

We know from American post-war initiatives to bring equalty to all races, particularly African Americans, while never too late, race equality for a while out prioritized ability. Te Reo Maori is an official language of New Zealand now. But earlier, the Polynesion language of our country's indigini was willfuly discarded as its use was discouraged outside of Maori engagement with each other and cultural displays to entertain foreign officials and tourists. A language tolerated by the dominant Anglo-Celtic culter, when this group had a use for it. More recently as part of a Maori Renaissance, te reo Maori, somewhat belatedly, became an official language of New Zealands. Yet, that was mostly a recognition of te reo Maori rather than a take-up by the wider non-Maori population. Of course, there was the now common gurmudedly reaction by the callers to the country's talkback radio stations spouting race entitlement vitriol, not unexpectedly as it happens - that's their target audience after all. Perhaps noticing that there was insufficient negitive race gaslighting on the MSM a group hard done by North Island businessmen beleived that launching an online media outlet of their own and hiring at least two well known show poney on air editorialists with views that reflected theirs would be a red hot combination to kick this growing race toletence back into the dark times they seemed to have preferred not never to have left. Whether is was a needed return of good taste or good sense, a modification to their earlier unpleasant strategy became apparent. But still, its difficult to believe that the two early AM commentators, now broadcasting less bad things Maori, are doing so, not from a new enlightenment, but from commercial nessesity. This may have been successful, but who knows. They've yet to conduct an independent audience survey, relaying instead on hope and wishful thinking and to be fair, good instincts after years of public engagement. Mr Laws, a parliamentary representative and Mr. Plunket in the world of government funded mass communcation. Of the two, Mr. Laws appears to be the most genuinely unpleasant, while Mr Plunket a more, Billy Bunteresqe character yet still hyper-critical with seldom much positivity, but perhaps that's what his programs audience is looking for. Anyhoo, if one sees both as providers of, while not harmless fun, but examples of self indulgent bullshit then, I thinks, she's all Jake mate and more power to them in their service to the dark side of town.

[@geofflewis8599]

@@brucegibbins3792 I remember my bro-in-law, who was Tuhoe and grew up in Murupara, telling me ''my parents stopped speaking Maori at home because they saw English as the language of the future..'' and BTW, English and Maori are related languages.

[@flam3rboiyt237]

To a degree, but we got rid of Labour so, lesser of 2 evils?

[@greetingsfromnewzealand]

Trump shows how absolutely ineffectual Luxon is, the real estate authority ought to have been called in for a bollocking. Shame on NZ real estate and NZ politics. Perhaps the real estate authority needs to hear some whale sounds.

[@TimE-er1kn]

There’s two differences between Trump and Luxon. Trump actually cares about his citizens and listens to them and then implements policies sometimes immediately to the citizens benefit. Luxon is nothing more than a WEF place holder puppet. Voting for the 2 parties is stupid when they are both controlled. Just look at UK politics. The Conservatives and Labour are different sides of the same coin. So it is here. Don’t vote for National or Labour. The faster those parties disappear the better for NZ democracy. Just look at how Reform has exploded in the polls in the UK, because the two main parties have not supported the UK citizenry but instead lay their loyalty to Davos (WEF)in UK prime minister’s own words he prefers Davos to London).

[@Abuamina001]

Keep it simple - scrap the Waitangi Treaty.

[@alanJones-c9l]

Who are on the board of The Real Estate Authority?

[@YouTubeCensorsComments]

To quote the sitcom Yes Minister, "It's the law of inverse relevance - the less you intend to do about something, the more you have to keep talking about it."

[@stevehorner8302]

My partner teaches first aid and other similar topics. She applied for a job teaching at Wit. She was told the same thing, You will need to pass some course's on cultural issues, for Wit to take you on has a teacher. She said no and did not get the Job

[@Saracen-mn5cj]

Do not wait and hope that Luxon will allow the draft bill to be picked up by any of his minions. It will not it into his Maori activism role.

[@dianefitzgerald1693]

Two important points, Janet is an AREINZ (highly qualified licensed real estate agent) and real estate salespeople have to do 10 hours of compulsary 'verifiable' training yearly. As she didn't complete this, she lost her license. Good for her for standing up to the REAA.

[@DownUnderWarboss]

Stone age maori had no concept of purchasing a house

[@operatorsix6933]

dont worry nonM will pay for it all.

[@musicians_with_gunts]

Pa

[@kiwiingrid]

Mandatory means it not written into NZ law.

[@mrsANGRYh]

What the actual! She has lost her job!!!! 😮

[@paulmeersa7162]

Oi Luxo; You were voted in to stop this nonsense, what's going on? Your lack of action to sort these actions will create more trouble for you than doing something about it, trust New Zealanders to fight you on the Political indoctrination field. Why? Because more and more are realising it is their duty as decent New Zealanders to do so.

[@JohanThiart]

Loss of liberty is more harmful to the soul than anything else …..😢 After “Care”, that says everything about one’s character, liberty heals the spirit … other values helps form character but these two values define character.

[@gregg7617]

Did the authority Also remove agents or cancelled there licence If not vaccinated ?🤔

[@operatorsix6933]

need a bill for traitors...stop letting them walk decade after decade.........

[@Freeeedumb]

Which traitors

[@schlookie]

​@@Freeeedumbyou

[@sigmaoctantis4706]

We ALL have Treaties with the Crown which specifically enshrine Equal Rights, Advantages and Privileges for ALL subjects. The Crown was a "Treaty Partner" (to utilise woke terminology) with many other "Treaty Parties" well before Maori were added as English subjects in the Maori version of the 1840 Treaty of Waitangi. These Treaties include the 1215 Magna Carta, the 1267 Treaty of Montgomery (Wales), the 1706 Treaty of Union (Scotland) and the 1800 Treaty of Union (Ireland), and their respective enactments. The "Treaty of Waitangi" is actually the 1840 Treaty of Union (New Zealand). In 1840 the "Crown" was already a "Partnership" with several "First Nations Partners" - ie. the Crown of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland. The Union Flag was specifically created by Article 1 of the 1706 Treaty of Union to represent the Union of "Treaty Parties". The 1840 Treaty of Waitangi was specifically signed over the Union Flag to represent this. This is like a going concern which has several existing partners, taking on another partner and absorbing their concern into a greater whole - with each partner being on an exactly equal footing. Article 1 of the 1707 Act of Union (Scotland) states; "That the two Kingdoms of Scotland and England, shall, upon the first Day of May next ensuing the Date hereof, and for ever after, be united into one Kingdom by the Name of Great-Britain, and that the Ensigns Armorial of the said united Kingdom, be such as her Majesty shall appoint; and the Crosses of St. Andrew and St. George be conjoined in such a manner as her Majesty shall think fit, and used in all Flags, Banners, Standards, and Ensigns, both at Sea and Land." Several Articles of these Treaties require that all citizens have equal rights, advantages and privileges and that no new party added should be given exclusive ones. For example, Article 4 of the 1707 Act of Union (Scotland) states; "That all the Subjects of the united Kingdom of Great-Britain shall, from and after the Union, have full Freedom and Intercourse of Trade and Navigation, to and from any Port or Place within the said united Kingdom, and the Dominions and Plantations thereunto belonging; and that there be a Communication of all other Rights, Privileges, and Advantages, which do or may belong to the Subjects of either Kingdom, except where it is otherwise expressly agreed in these Articles." Also for Example, Article 6 of the 1801 Act of Union (Ireland) states; "That it be the sixth article of union, that his Majesty’s subjects of Great Britain and Ireland shall, from and after the first day of January, one thousand eight hundred and one, be entitled to the same privileges, and be on the same footing as to encouragements and bounties on the like articles, being the growth, produce, or manufacture of either country respectively, and generally in respect of trade and navigation in all ports and places in the united kingdom and its dependencies; and that in all treaties made by his Majesty, his heirs, and successors, with any foreign power, his Majesty’s subjects of Ireland shall have the same privileges, and be on the same footing as his Majesty’s subjects of Great Britain." As above, these Treaties bound, and continue to bind, the Crown and all of its successors, such as the "Crown of New Zealand". Several legal precedents have been made dating back to at least the Union of the Crowns of England and Scotland in 1603 confirming that subjects under the Crown must be treated equally. This includes Calvin's Case (1608), 77 ER 377, (1608) Co Rep 1a, also known as the Case of the Postnati. The Crown cannot even begin to envision unequally restricting, or granting more, Rights, Advantages and Privileges of one or more "Treaty Parties" without being in breach of these Treaties. However, the Crown has increasingly been acting in breach of these Treaties and needs to immediately honour them. For example, Article 25 of the 1707 Act of Union (Scotland) states; "That all Laws and Statutes in either Kingdom, so far as they are contrary to, or inconsistent with the Terms of these Articles, or any of them, shall, from and after the Union, cease, and become void, and shall be so declared to be, by the respective Parliaments of the said Kingdoms." The pre and post 1840 "Treaty Parties" who have equal Rights, Advantages and Privileges within the Crown of New Zealand include English, Welsh, Scottish, Irish, Australian, Dutch, French, Moriori, Maori, and subjects of the Realm of New Zealand. The Crown has no doubt learnt its lesson when historically trying to breach the rights of some of these subjects. Rather than the "Treaty" situation being like two halves of an apple (ie the Crown and Maori), the real situation is like an orange, wherein each of the segments represent the numerous equal "Treaty Partners" and the protective and encapsulating skin represents the Crown. The only question is how much power the "Crown" has (ie. how thick is the skin of the orange) but each "First Nation" "Treaty Partner" segment is identical. This does not in any way reduce the "Treaty Rights" of any one "Treaty Partner". It simply extends them to all. The Crown is the only one who can lose rights, or conversely have more rights granted to it by the people - as long as those affect all equally. New "communities" can be envisioned as the new growth segments between the original segments (as in an orange) but always within the protective skin of the "Crown" and its powers. In fact, the segments near the centre of the orange have become fused together as populations merge and therefore subjects usually have more than one treaty in their lineage. In fact it is these earlier Treaties, for example Article 2 of the 1706 Treaty of Union (Scotland) which specifically defines the "Crown" and who exactly reigns and succeedes as the sovereign. If these earlier treaties are breached by the "Crown", tried to be ignored by "Treaty Deniers", or an attempt made to try and undermine or demote their relative importance by "Treaty Bigots", then the legitimacy of the current monarchs themselves would be jepordised (and the Monarch over the Water - ie the Stuart dynasty, would therefore need to be re-established). There can be no apartheid under these Treaties and the time has come to honour them equally.

[@lazydaisee3997]

I didn't sign the treaty and don't really see how EVERYONE should even have a vote when it is MY culture and it was MY ancestors who fought for voting rights etc

[@Freeeedumb]

Me me me

[@donna6806]

And this is why I don't support all this stuff. Don't tell me you've been squashed by colonialism and then turn around and squash us with your beliefs and way of living. You'll get no respect from being a hypocrite.

[@Roger-s3c]

Absolutely true, well said👍

[@Freeeedumb]

How are you being 'squashed'? What a load of rubbish

[@donna6806]

@@Freeeedumb ask janet dickson that

[@Freeeedumb]

@@donna6806 squashed? It's a short course that she's too racist to do 😂

[@ariadesigns3256]

🖤🤍❤️

[@Quentin-br5kl]

Can you tell me Michael and Johnathon what qualifications does Sineon Brown have in the Health sector or the qualifications Judith Collins has in Sciences hmm???. Hippocrates

[@robertmcalpin2304]

lol. I like a classical scholar.

[@Soundslikeauproblem]

What’s that got to do with the story mate? Not even related to what they’re discussing here. Don’t have a relevant comment to make that would further the discussion so I’ll just yell “ yeah but what about over there…” Do better.

[@Quentin-br5kl]

@@Soundslikeauproblem it is part of their story just not the headline

[@Quentin-br5kl]

@@Soundslikeauproblem the having qualified people for the job part

[@robertmcalpin2304]

@@Soundslikeauproblem oh piss off, fukn hall monitors!

[@sgibson5797]

Each person should be schooled in all practices of spiritual thought not just one races thoughts.

[@paulmeersa7162]

Why?

[@georgemooyman7155]

If they choose to.

[@henryholderness7230]

The Free Speech union is doing a good job on this particular issue, but in my experience there is no value in being a member of this union. All they want is your money and they do nothing for members apart from sending out email updates. I will not be a member of the FSU any longer

[@LabourPartyFan]

She would still have a job if she wasn't so racist that she refused to learn a few basic facts about the treaty. It pays to not be a hater.

[@richardwyatt934]

Liebour fan, says it all about you.

[@Roger-s3c]

​@@richardwyatt934haha exactly

[@paulmeersa7162]

What basic facts would you think she needs to know...?

[@citizen4570]

What are the basic facts ?????

[@eddieh4800]

You can not pick and choose whats in the test.Do the test or get out.She got out by her choice.End of story.

[@paulmeersa7162]

No, beginning of story actually...

[@Glenn4NZ]

This one course was compulsory.Others went through with the course under duress and are angry. Covid mandates ring abell.

[@Freeeedumb]

The free speech union 😂 - the freedom to talk absolute rollox