JonBenét Ramsey Movie : Perfect Murder Perfect Town

[@nickroberts-xf7oq]

Still such a sad story, even now. 2024 🌹 👑 🕊

[@chulemua]

I found my husband dead 10 months ago, I found his body and he was cold when I touched him, I knew he was gone, I screamed and yelled to GOD just like she did, this made me cry, I didnt hold him bc i wanted someone to tell me he was alive, I didnt want to have the certainty by touching him :( it's so hard to loose a loved one...

[@AuntyShaPray]

Bless

[@benjaminhawthorne1969]

You have my sympathies, Dear. When my father passed away, I was 20 years old. We were just at that point in our relationship when we were evolving from the "Father - Son" dynamic, to true, friendship of equals. When I saw him in his casket at the wake, I was completely gutted. I did NOT want him to leave me! I reached out for his hand, expecting it to be soft and warm, as it was in life. Instead, it was hard and cold, no different than a stone. It was than that reality hit me: "My buddy was truly gone and he was never coming back. I'd never again be able to tell him my problems over a beer and ask his advice. I was ALONE! 😥

[@benjaminhawthorne1969]

God bless you dear! My father died just when our relationship was changing from father to son to man to man. He was my best friend at that time. When I saw him lying in his casket in the funeral home,I did not want it to be true. Surely my buddy was not gone forever?! I reached into the casket to touch his hand, that was always so soft and meaty and warm in life. I was shocked when what I felt was hard and wooden and cold! It was quite a shock, but after that, there was NO MORE kidding myself. My buddy was gone and he was NEVER coming back! Still, it took me a couple of years to incorporate this thought into my daily tasks whether in dreams or in daily, mundane conversations, I would catch myself saying things like, "Why don't you ask Dad about that?" or "Dad will know what to do!" It takes time to rid oneself of habits that have been developed over decades! 😥

[@indescribableprincess685]

I'm sorry for your loss x rest in peace to the love of your life

[@dakotachristopher5532]

God bless u

[@youngw.a.r2709]

Burke staying asleep proves they were involved. If there was an intruder that took your child first thing Patsy would do is wake up Burke and keep him attatched to her hip. She wouldn't let him out of her sight out of fear the intruder was still in the home. She would also want to ask if he heard of saw anything and make sure was alright. The fact she let him sleep tells me she wasn't worried about him being in danger, he wasn't in danger because there wasnt an intruder. That simple

[@nancytoppin7701]

exactly! I totally agree with you!

[@andilicious]

Good point!! Patsy is prob burning in hell now

[@bethryan9077]

Known Facts - Alarm set 5.30 a.m., the Ramseys were to get on a plane for Charlevoix. Patsy found the note, raced upstairs, found JB gone & screamed for John & could only say about a note & JB gone. He said “call the police”. It was pitch dark, no-one around & they were terrified. Patsy called the Whites & the Fernies for Help. John Fernie called their pastor for prayers & comfort. The cops called 2 victim’s advocates to come. 2 got in the kitchen door when the Ramseys went to the Whites for dinner. They had broken in before & that’s why they knew where everything was & exactly what they were going to do. About 1.30 a.m. JB was choked with the white cord & tasered on her back in bed, wrapped in 2 white blankets & carried to the boiler room. When the cord was quickly released she screamed, a neighbour heard that because of the vent in the boiler room that was at the front of the house. Fibres from the cord were found on JBs sheet & are in evidence. They ran out a side door, down to the back & waited under a pine tree then went back in. They had run into the metal ladder & it hit the cement as they ran out. That was the 'crash' noise the neighbour's husband heard. Fresh pine needles came off one of their jackets & were found in the cellar & are in evidence. She was given a lot of water in the early hours, tasered & vile acts occurred. That was not a garrotte it was a complex bondage device & made by the 17 year old who was into causing fear & used electricity. Both these factors & position & so much water is why there is so much pee staining on the front of both undergarments & near to the waistbands. The carpet & underlay were cut out due to the pee stain & are in evidence. The nylon cord was bought as it had to be a bit slippery for the purpose. The knots were intricate & specific then a certain number of ties on the wood & then the 3 loops. When that was done the rest of the cord was JB's exact height. The tip of the paintbrush was cut off, used at her privates & never found because some deviants keep trophies. That was not a paintbrush of Patsy’s. JB was given pineapple fruitcake earlier & at 5.30 a.m. She did not eat any pineapple that was in the bowl, that was part of the staging, one of many. ‘The Stomach contains a small amount (8-10cc) of viscous to green to tan coloured thick material of no particulate matter identified’. ‘The Proximal Portion (top) of the Small Intestine contains fragmented pieces of yellow to light green-tan apparent vegetable or fruit material which may represent fragments of pineapple’. Arndt was there & told the ME pineapple was in a bowl. It takes 2 hours for stomach contents to go to the top of the small intestine. In Patsy’s recorded statement June ’98, Thomas Haney told her the pineapple in the bowl was Different to the fragments in the top of the small Intestine. When Patsy called 911, JB was strangled to death in a rage on top of the dryer in the basement laundry. Cops coming meant no money. There was a phone in that laundry. The one piece of tape was put over her mouth to stop fluids getting on their clothes & she was carried to the cellar. Then 3 blows to the head, 3 weapons & each is in evidence. The 1st - a brick on the top of the head that caused the huge open fracture down the length of the skull. The 2nd - a utility knife & small stabs to the skull in a shape. The tool used was broken off & not found. The 3rd - was the end of the steel kid's ball bat & that caused the hole that the stabs started. They had planned if the cops were called. They didn't plan that Patsy would stay on the phone calling friends to come & help. That phone on the wall was in the alcove near to where they had to get out the basement door & then their exit door. Glenn Meyer was the author of the note & he organised it all for money with 3 from the house on the corner. One had a huge grudge against John in relation to a family business in Michigan. All was set up to incriminate all Ramseys if no cash was paid. Their back-up for money was the taking of photos. Many items were brought into the house & staged. Many items were taken from cupboards & drawers & staged all over the house, basement & a few things outside. Meyer was secretly living in the Barnhill's basement across the road. He got to know a great deal about the Ramseys. JB's dog was mostly kept there & the kids & Patsy were over there often. Patsy gave the Barnhills many cards, letters & notes in her print writing over the years. It is easy to copy print writing & he only had to do Some letters like hers as it was Supposed to look like she was trying to disguise hers, which is impossible to do for near 3 pages & the Real experts know that fact. From his vantage point Myer could see through both staircase windows & knew Patsy & John came down the back stairs each morning to make coffee. The note was spread out so all 3 pages would be seen, they wanted their money. The notepad was taken at the Xmas party on the 23rd. Meyer went over saying he was looking for the Barnhills worried about them ensuring he was let in. John took him to where they were sitting & he stayed. The Ramseys didn't even know who he was. JB was never to be taken from the basement. SBTC & Victory is about a plane. Joe Barnhill was a radial gunner in WW2 & flew on the SB2C, Two - T, so SBTC. That was a famous bomber plane & lauded for bringing the war to victory. Meyer had a poster of that plane on a wall in his room, Victory was on the side of the plane. There is a photo of Barnhill holding a framed picture of that plane. From the advanced forensics, the private investigators who never gave up & as happens with lots of crimes, people talk eventually & that’s why so much is now known Plus because the crime scene techs who did an excellent job & taking all the photos & videos & collecting all the DNA. The Ramseys never put one foot back in that house ever again from after JB was found & they left. The trauma was way too much, but if they Had been able to, this case would have been a Very different matter for all involved. The discoveries were everywhere if the family would have seen it all with very astute investigators. Thomas was only brought into the case 3 days after because the investigators present refused to target the Ramseys. He was an ex-narcotics officer who had Zero experience with Any murder before let alone a ransom, which was the first crime. He thought he would make a name for himself from this high profile crime. His partner was an auto-theft officer. The BPD spent their time covering up their total incompetence. They rarely had a murder & this was their first for '96. They refused help from the FBI & the CBI. They put about misinformation & leaked certain photos. That amount of money was near John's bonus for '95 & was paid to him in March '96. The amount was on his pay stubs each month of '96. The suitcase was already placed under the window & the window opened for the 2nd time after the cops left. Both done as subterfuge. Same with the fresh green leaves that were dumped at the grate & some 'caught' under it. Lou made a mistake about that window, that's all. It was never an entry point. Early that morning, 2 officers did not go in the train room door & so through to the windows & 2 failed to pull open that cellar door. There is soo much more to this case that the public don't know about. The type of air taser used has been identified. The burns on JBs back & face are from same taser. The 2nd point was under JB's ear. The burn on her face was bigger because the point was placed there more than once - control. Google the murder of Gerald Boggs ‘93 Colorado. His autopsy photo shows the Exact same burns on his face, the 2nd point was on his earlobe. Those tasers were widely used by drug dealers in the 90s. The big underpants JB was found in were put on her in the early hours. Patsy, her sister, their mother & JB went to New York Xmas shopping. Patsy bought her niece a pack of 7 underpants from Bloomingdales that were called Bloomies. They were size 12-14 & had the weekdays on the waistbands. Patsy also bought from there 2 special Barbie dolls for JB. One had her own pair of underpants also called Bloomies. JB begged her mother for the pack of 7 so she had some like her doll. Patsy gave in & they were put away for JB til she would fit into them, about 8 years away. They were put in the back of a drawer in JB's bathroom. When they got home JB went to see her dog at the Barnhills & told them about her special presents. Meyer was ever listening. JB was found in the ones that had Wednesday on the waistband. It was a Wednesday that year for Xmas Day. Access the photo of the paint tray on the carpet. Look to the left a bit at the tray & up a bit, you will see a drawing of a sinister smirking cat's face/head on the carpet, as on the note - fat cat. That was not a nightgown of JBs found in the cellar, it was a dress taken off her life-sized doll that was kept in the corner of her room, but found in the playroom standing at a window. That bowl (with pineapple) was used at the Xmas party on the 23rd & had the icing for the gingerbread houses that all the kids were given & they decorated themselves. That was a heavy bowl & that was icing not milk. There were No fingerprints on that bowl. That glass had a dried tea bag & no tea was made in that. That silver ladle in the bowl came from a cupboard near the spiral staircase & was from a boxed set of 2 that the Ramseys received as a wedding present & had never been opened. That was chosen & placed because of the filigree that was the same as the filigree on some of JB's crowns. The Ramseys were finally exonerated in 2008 due to All the evidence that showed someone was in the house, over 200 pieces of & the DNA cleared them plus lots of others then & since. It is 2021, all is known & 4 involved have been identified, 2 are dead. Justice is coming.

[@bethryan9077]

It was a Ransom note, kidnappers don't hang around til the parents get up. Cops were there in minutes & like normal people, John & Patsy then took directions from the cops.

[@anitastodolak9882]

I totally agree! As you said its THAT SIMPLE!

[@DJPonychan18]

This whole thing was botched from the beginning. All those people in the house touching everything, John scooping up Jonbenet with a blanket and cross contaminating everything. Something doesn’t add up and now it’s 25 years later and nothing. How is this fair to a little girl who never got to live??

[@bethryan9077]

How could John cross contaminate everything? He lived with her.

[@bethryan9077]

Known Facts - Alarm set 5.30 a.m. & the Ramseys were to get on a plane for Charlevoix. Patsy found the note, raced upstairs, found JB gone & screamed for John. He just said “call the police”. It was pitch dark, no-one around & they were terrified. Who would know how long til cops arrived? After calling 911 she called the Whites & Fernies for Help. John Fernie called their pastor for prayers & comfort. The cops called 2 victim's advocates. 2 got in the kitchen door when the Ramseys went to the Whites for dinner. They had broken in before & is why they knew where everything was, where to go & exactly what they were going to do. At about 1.30 a.m. JB was choked with the white nylon cord & tasered on her back in her bed, wrapped in 2 white blankets & carried to the boiler room. When the cord was quickly released she screamed, a neighbour heard that because of the vent in the boiler room. Fibres from the cord were found on JBs sheet & are in evidence. They ran out a side door, down to the back & waited under a pine tree then went back in. They had run into the metal ladder & it hit the cement as they ran out. That was the 'crash' noise the neighbour's husband heard. Fresh pine needles came off one of their jackets & were found in the cellar & are in evidence. She was given a lot of water in the early hours & tasered & tortured near that boiler room. The huge pee staining on both undergarments prove that. That was not a garrotte it was a complex bondage device & made by the 17 year old who was into causing fear & using electricity. Both these factors & position is why there is such large pee staining on the front of both undergarments & near to the waistbands. The carpet & underlay were cut out due to the pee stain & are in evidence. The nylon cord was bought as it had to be a bit slippery for the purpose. The knots were intricate & specific then a certain number of ties on the wood & then the 3 loops. When that was done the rest of the cord was JB's exact height. The tip of the paintbrush was cut off & never found. That was not a paintbrush of Patsy’s. JB was given pineapple fruitcake earlier & at 5.30 a.m. She did not eat any of that pineapple that was in the bowl, that was part of the staging, one of many. ‘The stomach contains a small amount (8-10cc) of viscous to green to tan coloured thick material of no particulate matter identified’. ‘The Proximal Portion (Top) of the Small Intestine contains fragmented pieces of yellow to light green-tan apparent vegetable or fruit material which may represent fragments of pineapple’. Arndt was there & told the ME chunks of pineapple were in a bowl. It takes 2 hours for stomach contents to go to the top of the intestine. In Patsy’s recorded statement June ’98, Thomas Haney told her the pineapple in the bowl was Different to the bits in the top of the Intestine. When Patsy called 911, JB was strangled to death in a rage on top of the dryer in the basement laundry. Cops coming meant no money. There was a phone in that laundry. The one piece of tape was put over her mouth to stop fluids getting on their clothes & she was carried to the cellar. Then 3 blows to the head, 3 weapons & each is in evidence. The 1st was a brick on the top of the head & that caused the huge fracture. The 2nd was a utility knife & small stabs to the skull in a shape. The tool used was broken off & not found. The 3rd was the end of the steel kid's ball bat & that caused the hole that the stabs started. They had planned if the cops were called. They didn't plan that Patsy would stay on the phone calling friends to come & help. That phone on the wall was in the alcove near to where they had to get out the basement door & then their exit door. Glenn Meyer was the author of the note & he organised it all for money with 3 from the house on the corner. One had a huge grudge against John in relation to a family business in Michigan. All was set up to incriminate all Ramseys if no money was paid. Their back-up was the taking of photos. Many items were brought into the house & staged. Many items were taken from cupboards & drawers & staged all over the house, basement & a few things outside. Meyer was secretly living in the Barnhill's basement across the road. He got to know a great deal about the Ramseys. JB's dog was mostly kept there & the kids & Patsy were over there often. Patsy gave the Barnhills many cards, letters & notes in her print writing over the years. It is easy to copy print writing & he only had to do Some letters like hers as it was Supposed to look like she was trying to disguise hers, which is impossible to do btw. From his vantage point Myer could see through both staircase windows & knew Patsy & John came down the back stairs each morning to make coffee. The note was spread out so all 3 pages would be seen, they wanted their money. The notepad was taken at the Xmas party on the 23rd. Meyer went over saying he was looking for the Barnhills worried about them ensuring he was let in. John took him to where they were sitting & he stayed. The Ramseys didn't even know who he was. JB was never to be taken from the house they had nowhere to operate. The SBTC & Victory is about a plane. Joe Barnhill was a radial gunner in WW2 & flew on the SB2C, Two - T, so SBTC. That was a famous bomber plane & lauded for bringing the war to victory. Meyer had a poster of that plane on a wall in his room, Victory was on the side of the plane. There is a photo of Barnhill holding a framed picture of that plane. From the advanced forensics, the private investigators who never gave up & as happens with lots of crimes, people talk eventually & is why so much is now known Plus because the crime scene techs did an excellent job in taking all the photos & the videos & collecting all the DNA. The Ramseys never put one foot back in that house ever again from after JB was found & they left. The trauma was way too much, but if they Had been able to, this case would have been a Very different matter for all involved. The discoveries were everywhere if the family would have seen it all with very astute investigators. Thomas was only brought into the case 4 days after because the investigators present refused to target the Ramseys. He was an ex-narcotics officer who had Zero experience with Any murder before let alone a ransom, which was the first crime. He thought he would make a name for himself from this high profile crime. His partner was an auto-theft officer. The BPD spent their time covering up their total incompetence. They rarely had a murder & this was their first for '96. They refused help from the FBI & the CBI. They put about misinformation & leaked certain photos. That amount of $118,000 was near John's bonus for '95 & was paid to him in March '96. The amount was on his pay stubs each month of '96. The suitcase was already placed under the window & the window was opened after the cops left. Both done as subterfuge. Same with the fresh green leaves that were dumped at the grate & some 'caught' under it. Lou made a mistake about that window, that's all. It was never an entry or exit point. Early that morning, 2 officers did not go in the train room door & 2 failed to pull open that cellar door. There is soo much more to this case that the public don't know about. The type of air taser used has been identified. The burns on JBs back & face are from same taser. The 2nd point was under JB's ear. The burn on her face was bigger because the point was placed there more than once - control. Google the murder of Gerald Boggs 1993 Colorado. His autopsy photo shows the Exact same burns on his face, the 2nd point was on his earlobe. Those tasers were widely used by drug dealers in the 90s. The big underpants JB was found in were put on her in the early hours. Patsy, her sister, their mother & JB went to New York Xmas shopping. Patsy bought her niece a pack of 7 underpants from Bloomingdales that were called Bloomies. They were size 12-14 & had the weekdays on the waistbands. Patsy also bought from there 2 special Barbie dolls for JB. One had her own pair of underpants also called Bloomies. JB begged her mother for the pack of 7 so she had some like her doll. Patsy gave in & they were put away for JB til she would fit into them, about 8 years away. They were put in the back of a drawer in JB's bathroom. When they got home JB went to see her dog at the Barnhills & told them about her special presents. Meyer was ever listening. JB was found in the ones that had Wednesday on the waistband. It was a Wednesday that year for Xmas Day. Access the photo of the paint tray on the carpet. Look to the left a bit at the tray & up a bit, you will see a drawing of a sinister smirking cat's face/head on the carpet, as on the note - fat cat. That was not a nightgown of JBs found in the cellar, it was a dress taken off her life-sized doll that was kept in the corner of her room, but found in the playroom standing at a window. That bowl (with chunks of pineapple) was used at the Xmas party on the 23rd & had the icing for the gingerbread houses that all the kids were given & they decorated themselves. That was a heavy bowl & that was icing not milk. There were No fingerprints on that bowl. That glass had a dried tea bag & no tea was made in that. That silver ladle in the bowl came from a cupboard near the spiral staircase & was from a boxed set of 2 that the Ramseys received as a wedding present & had never been opened. That was chosen & placed because of the filigree that was the same as the filigree on many of JB's crowns. The Ramseys were finally exonerated in 2008 due to All the evidence that showed someone was in the house, over 200 pieces of & the DNA cleared them plus lots of others then & since. It is 2021, all is known & 4 involved have been identified, 2 are dead. Justice is coming.

[@wendynorth7477]

I believe the Ramsey's invited all of those people their on purpose to contaminate the crime scene beyond repair. According to this movie John knew exactly where his daughters body was. Either he had something to do with it. Ors he's a damn psychic

[@bethryan9077]

@@wendynorth7477 Well that's ridiculous & born from ignorance. You kids obviously watch too many made-up CSI shows. BTW - who do You think 'all those people were'? Patsy called the Whites & the Fernies Only. John Fernie later called their pastor. The Cops Allowed them there. They sat in the den & the sunroom. How did That contaminate the crime scene beyond repair? The cops were useless but at least they cordoned off her bedroom eventually. There were 6 cops & 2 detectives who arrived at various times that morning, They were Everywhere. The cops called 2 victim's advocates to come. If you people want to blame Anyone for Any contamination, direct it at the Right people. According to the movie, lol. It is a Fact that John & Fleet checked the 2 cupboards in that co-joined room through the train room door First, Then they were on the floor looking for any glass at all at the broken window. Then John went to the cellar because that was the next room at that end of the basement, That's All. There were Two cops in that basement early that morning at different times, French & then Weiss taking photos. Neither went through the train room door & so to the windows & neither pulled the cellar door open. You people don't know very much about this case & y'all know Nothing True about the Facts. BTW - the Ramseys were Proven Innocent a long time ago, due to All the evidence in that house And the DNA, And that was way back in the day, So, just get over yourselves

[@bethryan9077]

From the 1st week of 1997 til 2008, the DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs - unknown male DNA & Matching from - under JB's fingernails, saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants, touch DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns. The DNA has been in CODIS since 2003. Further testing in 2016 with advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic.. Who would Write a ransom note on their Own notepad with their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The Cops? That was the 1st red flag for the Experienced investigators that told them the Ramseys were Not involved. There is something fundamentally Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That. What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on national TV & for Years? NONE. And John continued on his own after Patsy died & he still Does. The BPD took that note to the Secret Service & they also hired 2 private experts, all 4 said Patsy did Not write the note. So many so-called 'experts' came out of the woodwork to find their version of fame & make Money from this high profile crime. A great many of the general public are highly gullible to unscrupulous people obviously. Then there are many pages put on the screen on vids as if writing 'samples' on pages & letters that Patsy did down columns that are the same as the note & the implication is that these pages are from police files. They are Not & Patsy did None of that. Wake up people, y'all been Duped, left, right & centre & back again.

[@hemanth3828]

In song and in prayer, the world still moans a little girl’s tragic death. RIP little Angel.

[@LOVELAYNE-ix6zz]

I don't.. I could care less about some little rich kid whose family got away with murder

[@emievlogs3077]

Still she still didn’t deserve to die even though she was a poor little rich girl, no one should have to die like even they were rich or not.

[@LOVELAYNE-ix6zz]

@@emievlogs3077 I agree however to say we are mourning her is a misstep. There are many others that were murdered in more horrific ways ie Gabriel Fernandez and many others who were tortured for months and years before their deaths.. This girl was killed pretty quick...

[@emievlogs3077]

Very true, what sad for 1999 until 2022 there has been a lot off school with young adults to children that were never able to grow up .Parents Or grandma parents ,and able have a life.

[@bethryan9077]

@@LOVELAYNE-ix6zz JonBenet was sadistically tortured & that went on for Hours, In Fact. Then JB was strangled to death & the cord left Embedded in her neck, Then just after That, blows to her head, 3 weapons, all 3 caused the Two Severe fractures, one nearly the length of her skull & Open & the other a Hole, the skull piece split in 2 & inside. The overkill was Savage & also pre-planned if the cops were called. And, I haven't Detailed the Torture of This little girl I suggest that You go do some Actual Research instead of mouthing off like a lowlife about a precious little 6 year old Child. BTW - the Fernandez case, the mother & boyfriend committed all the sociopathic acts & then murder of that poor boy. They were Prosecuted & Jailed. The Ramseys didn't Ever harm Their kids, in Any way shape or form. The perpetrators of This horrendous crime, Roamed Freely. There's something Very Wrong with you, go get help.

[@BoulevardeTV]

I love all the nobodies here with their ‘detective skills’ 😂😂😂😂

[@dylanlawhorn3617]

Dude this is a murder

[@duvessa2003]

Everyone is somebody 💕 And you never know when an untrained “somebody” will hit upon something. A fair number of murders have been solved by Internet sleuths…

[@javiermori1710]

How incompetent can you be as a police dept to miss finding the body when they arrived at scene. Totally unacceptable and not too mention extremely embarrasing..

[@chicagomike4587]

I know what you mean but to be fair, It was in a room that didn't really look like a room - there was a wood panel with a latch that led to a dark, damp "wine cellar" that had no windows, etc. Also, the cops were treating it as a kidnapping as the family who lived in this 7200 sq ft labyrinth said she was gone and there was a note from a kidnapper. The system in Boulder was shit and the police are on the list but at the bottom as Alex Hunter, as the DA, was the biggest slimeball moron politician. Even look at the end of this film "There will be no indictment" after the grand jury finished - LOL and we learn nearly 15 years later that the grand jury voted to indict the Ramseys! Alex Hunter just wouldn't sign it. They must have been confused during that press conference...and pissed.

[@msoileau83]

It's a female cop. What do you expect.

[@ceciliapreziose3783]

yeah and send potential suspects to search the house for you!

[@bethryan9077]

@@chicagomike4587 The ever deceitful keystone cops fed the grand jury members the same false information that they had been 'leaking' to the media & deliberately Hid the evidence of intruders. One needs to remember that Steve Thomas had already illegally taken evidence material from the office for his book of BS so he alone did Not want anything True known to the public when there was Money to be made from the very high profile crime. The BPD from back then plus others in positions of power from that time are still dining out on their pay packets & retirement packages. I will wager that the information that the also media soaked grand jury members were given will Never be released. Only America & one other country still has a stupid grand jury system. It is unfair, unjust & doesn't work. The jurors only hear from the prosecution, who get to pick & choose what evidence is presented & which witnesses appear. There is no judge, no defence lawyers & unless subpoenaed by the prosecution - No experts to rebut Whatever is presented. As a consequence, the jury vote on the side of the prosecution 98.6% of the time. And the BPD withheld a great deal of vital evidence. FYI - the vote was Not for murder. Unlike the jury, the general public & the media, the DA actually Saw all the evidence known about at that time as did Lou Smit, one of the best investigators in the country. Less than half the States, still have this abysmal grand jury system. The DNA alone Proved just how Wrong the jury Were. The jurors were Conned into believing Patsy wrote that Ridiculous note, that’s All. Those ‘members’ of the public sat down 2 days a week for over 12 months at a great cost to the tax payer, they had to come up with ‘something’. Yawn. BTW - all those Idiots watched, read & listened to the Exact same False & very Salacious information via the Media, for a Very long time Prior, that all You dolts have been brainwashed with back then &/or Since. FYI - the special prosecutor by the name of Michael Kane who led them down that yellow brick road each & every day, came to his Senses & did Eventually state Publicly, that there was No evidence to charge the Ramseys with a damn thing. And FYI deary, the Ramseys were Prevented from testifying before the grand jury & were so upset about that, a letter was sent off to the Governor, who didn't even bother to reply. The highly Incompetent Boulder cops couldn't have Anyone telling the truth about their Failings that morning & since. John & Patsy were Very well educated & very confident people who grew indignant very quickly & they would have had no problems setting the record Straight about a whole lot of the Cop's issues & then, it was Their House that the intruders broke into but hey, keep drinking the Kool Aid. It is always very Telling about how Cunning you Ramsey bashers truly Are, because whenever you state Anything about the grand jury, you All fail to mention that the vote was Not for murder. Yawn. BTW - do you actually know what Year it is today? LMAO. The 2nd Commander put in charge of the BPD by the name of Mark Beckner, was put in place in December 1997. He eventually found some integrity & publicly stated in 2015, words to the effect - “when the owner of the DNA is found, there’s your killer”. *All highly ignorant Ramsey bashers need to get this Very Clear - You Do NOT Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or John Douglas or Lou Smit or a myriad of other expert homicide investigators OR the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years & to this day Also state that the Ramseys - ARE Innocent.* The Boulder PD issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022. Go find that online & read it Slowly. FYI - all Ramseys were Proven Innocent a long, Long time ago & finally Officially exonerated in 2008 due to all the evidence known at that time, over 200 pieces of, that Showed someone Was in that house. And the investigation continued with Seasoned actual homicide investigators who had full Integrity & who worked tirelessly Unpaid, because Their sole purpose was to find a highly sadistic child killer. None wrote a book trying to line their own pockets & the general public are unaware of the actual Case Evidence. Last December a cold case team were put together by the Colorado Bureau of Investigation & they’re on the job. The DNA being saliva, from one of the unknown male intruders was mixed in with one spot of JB's blood in the big underpants that he & his cohort put on her, has been in CODIS since 2003. That DNA did Match the DNA from under JB's pinkie fingernails & the DNA from 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, inside & outside there, being pulled up/down. As of the results in 2016 with advanced forensics - the 2nd unknown male's DNA, also on the long-johns & he is hispanic. The cold case team also have the go-ahead to have both perps’ DNA reanalysed with the advanced technology & can have untested evidence items from the BPD’s dungeon, to be analysed with same. The FBI are involved with this investigation, finally. One can only hope that this cold case team will have the same Integrity. And, that none will be after a book deal, like xyz officers from before who are totally responsible for every single vile accusation against all Ramsey family members, still to this day.

[@JulesinAZ]

Also funny how the dad went straight there , I’m sure he was thinking “ you stupid cops we left her where you should have been able to find her” .

[@millsykooksy4863]

incredibly depressing, I don't know what happened but so many people's lives were destroyed. That poor little girl, she didn't do anything wrong...she was simply born. It's absolutely horrifying

[@seanohare5488]

True

[@nbenefiel]

When thinking about this case really gets me down, Intry to think of the Christmas Day video of JonBenet trying to ride her new bike. Her hair in bunches, a puffy pink jacket, she rides about two feet then falls off laughing hysterically, then she gets back on and does it all over. I try to keep that in my head instead of what was done to her by that bastard in the basement.

[@Kevin-tz2lv]

@@nbenefiel you don't care about her

[@nbenefiel]

@@Kevin-tz2lv of course I do. What happened to her was hideous, but it was not done by her brother, or her parents.

[@Kevin-tz2lv]

@nbenefiel odds are it was. And odds are you're being paid to do this and/or know John. When he dies...I bet anything you and your fake accounts stop commenting. You do this, once a month or once every other month. I figured this out with Terry Hobbs's friend too.

[@heatherneese6696]

how dare they take this beautiful soul from the world

[@dakotachristopher5532]

Right?

[@seanohare5488]

I agree

[@bigboyrambo2009]

The so called 'ransom note' says don't call police etc.. then they invite half the town by 7am.

[@nbenefiel]

If a kid is kidnapped you’re supposed to call the police.

[@bigboyrambo2009]

@@nbenefiel and all your family and friends without fear anyone watching the door? All staged

[@nbenefiel]

@@bigboyrambo2009 Nonsense. You can’t stage a garroting. Read the fricking autopsy report.

[@chicagomike4587]

Contaminating the crime scene to cover your tracks and build a defense is easier when you have help. I'm surprised Patsy didn't host a Tupperware party

[@nbenefiel]

@@bigboyrambo2009 They did not call all of their family and friends. Patsy called two friends to tell them what had happened. They showed up with their husbands. They all arrived well after the police. Proper protocol would have been for the police to remove the Ramseys, seal the house and bring in the forensic team immediately to go over every inch of the crime scene. This didn’t happen.when the FBI came to the house that morning, the BPD refused to let them in. They bungled this case from the get go and then tried to put the blame on the family, despite the evidence. They were too incompetent to conduct a proper investigation and refused the help of those who could.

[@stargo2931]

Nobody ever talks about the guy that was renting the basement room across the street where the little dog stayed sometimes.

[@iamthatiam1618]

Hmm. Jaques. Yup that used to be Jonbenet's dog and they couldn't keep up with the dog so they gave it to the neighbor across the street. Was this the same neighbor, Brian Scott? The 27 yr. Old that was talking to Jonbenet raking the leaves? If so, I kind of suspected him.

[@vicksta8875]

He was cleared. Same with the neighbors...

[@simoneu.nathaus7292]

.@.stargo...the guy in the basement appt.is called Glenn Meyer !!! He was part of the conspiracy plot of 4 !!

[@sernity1523]

That's because he had nothing to do with it.

[@deanobannon842]

I would do anything to find out who killed that angel.

[@irenakiller7310]

me too, i would rather know who killed her than know the identity of jack the ripper.

[@naarahjanemorris3121]

Me to I'd like to solve this Case, & others too RIP Sweet Angel, I Do know there was x2 male Suspects I think They were Disgruntled Employees just Speculation they knew the Family & there Families Movements I Sense that it was The little girl,s Father they were Targeting by the severity of his Injuries & they murdered the Rest of the family & kids friends So there were no Witnesses.

[@fern7306]

The parents obviously 🙄 Are people really this dumb ❓

[@FemaleDallasTexas]

Easy. The mother did it. Cracked her skull by accident. Then when she realized she was dead she strangled her to make it look like someone else did it.

[@hadishibli1694]

Me too

[@benjaminhawthorne1969]

Patsy was a successful pageant queen, but she always felt that she could've gone further, if she'd just started earlier. She was now too old to do the pageant circuit, but when J.B. was born, she knew that she could relive her experiences, and even go further (Miss America or Miss Universe.) She spent ungodly amounts of time & money (sending JB to Charm School, getting professional photographs taken, paying professional cosmetologists to do JB's hair & makeup.)

[@bethryan9077]

So, Your father wasn't a tennis Pro so You never even got a tennis racket. Aww.

[@seanohare5488]

Very obsessive I didn't know she patsy was once a beauty Queen a tipoff to me and the many film footage of her daughter at those child beauty pagents were way to sexually suggestive for a 6 year old and disturbing to the mother just thought of beauty in the external sense not real care fora child well being

[@katiefamilia2744]

I Feel So Bad For What Happened That Beautiful Adorable Little Girl Jobenet , The Worst Thing About All This Is That Her Mom Will Never Ever Know Whether Her Daughter Really Wanted To Even Be Participating in Patents! Or If Her Daughter Really Did The Whole Pagent Thing Because At The Time It Was Fun N She Saw How Happy It Made Her Mom Patsy Feel N How Proud She Was Of Her Every Time She Would Parade Her On Stage Like A Grown Little Woman ! I Personally Feel That Patsy Should Have Let Her Daughter Be A Child N Not Live Her Short Years Competing in Pageants Her Childhood Is Gone N Her Dreams Of What Would Have Been Are Lost Now , I Pray To God That They Find The Bastard Or Monsters That Took This Precious Angel Away Too Soon That Who Knows Maybe Could Have Been Mrs USA Or Next President Or A Doctor But Hopefully There Will Be Justice For This Family Soon Way Before They Leave This World!

[@benjaminhawthorne1969]

Patsy was crowned "Miss West Virginia" in the late 1970's.

[@dodgecrockett3474]

@@katiefamilia2744, Katie Familiar, you write very well. But you said something that threw me for a loop. You opined that Patsy should have permitted JonBenet to enjoy her youth instead of living her short life pretending to be an adult. You said "short" (actually "Short"). Why did you say "Short"? Prior to that tragic day, there was every reason to believe that JonBenet's life would be "Long". Assuming JonBenet was destined to live a long life, wouldn't you have condoned the pageants? I certainly would have.

[@melissalee2166]

The fact that she was found fully clothed is very telling. Most children killed by predators are left nude or partially clothed. Jonbenet was fully clothed plus had a blanket over her.This is the biggest clue that the parents covered it up.

[@bethryan9077]

Being sound asleep when put to bed, Patsy left her in the white shirt & put the long-johns on & that was the clothing JB had on when found deceased. The perps wrapped JB in the Two white blankets when they took her from her bed & down to the boiler room at about 1.30 a.m. All Ramseys were Proven Innocent due to a mountain of evidence & the DNA from unknown male that was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. Further testing in 2007, Matching DNA on the long-johns. Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns. It's now 2022, all is known, the 4 involved have been identified, 2 are dead, justice is coming

[@AuntyShaPray]

It's disrespectful to the Ramsey's to jump to conclusions without evidence.

[@bethryan9077]

This is the problem for the general public - you don't know anything about the crime, the case Or about what was Actually perpetrated upon this poor Child. The Authorities Plus Forensic Scientists, Proved Intruders Were in That house. The public are still back in the Old Days, you all need to Catch Up, it is Not still 1996, 1997, 1998. Expert investigators Continued Working This Case. Soo many in the public domain are stuck in a friggin Time Warp. The False & misleading information that is Still being portrayed on Most of the vids on Utube, is the Same False & Misleading information that media & books put out from Way Back Then. Wake Up America! Go do some Actual Research. Learn about the Actual evidence. You people have seen a few photos - pineapple in a bowl, flashlight on a bench, cord on a stick, writing on some pages. That is Not Evidence & most certainly Nothing to do with Evidence of Murder. Thank goodness you people didn't get to see More photos. LOL. FYI - there were Hundreds. Someone made a TV 'show' & told you all those items were evidence about the Ramseys & Burke, they Were Not. You have All been Hoodwinked. The ONLY piece that you people know about that Can be classed as evidence, is the notepad. THAT Was Used to Commit this crime. That Did come from the house. There is No Other Evidence From That House, that was Used To Commit This Crime. So what have you people got? Never ending stupid Crap that you all post, that Also has Nothing to do with the Murder of This Child. Access the autopsy photos that are online, they are shoulders up only. Have a good look at the burn on this child's cheek & the cord left embedded in her neck. There were also abrasions at the base of her neck from that cord, from earlier vile acts with that Bondage Device. That was Not a garrotte. Some Idiot thought that Word looked good for a Headline & in a Book, because of that One Photo. A garrotte has Two handles to work, Not One. Source the Photo of the Whole thing. What I have Already told you about That, is the True Facts. The Authentic autopsy report States about the rust coloured marks at each temple & the same rust coloured marks on the back of one leg. Crime scene photos Show the rusty log grabber in the Cellar. The authentic autopsy report can be found online, the 1st page has the symbol/emblem for Boulder County- That flashlight was Not a weapon used & that did Not belong to the Ramseys. The authentic autopsy report Proves JB did Not eat Any of that pineapple, Forensics Proved That. Patsy did Not write that note, the Experts Proved That & the Writing was Not the Only factor that Proved That, She Did NOT. Glenn Meyer took the notepad when he invited himself to their Xmas party on the 23rd, Simple as That. He organised this crime for Money, his 3 cohorts turned into something else. This was a very, Very well Planned crime for money & revenge. There are Many reasons why kidnapping has always been a rare crime. One has to take the time to Think about Why that is a Fact. The plan - JB was Never to be taken from that basement. It was always going to be 50/50 if the cops were called & they didn’t get that quick cash. They sure didn’t go to so much trouble & such high risk for Nothing. The taking of photos was their back-up for money. True Crime for a great many, is way too much to Fathom when you don’t know about the True Facts. The Ramseys were Officially Exonerated a Long time ago with a mountain of Actual Evidence & by Real experts, including Forensic Scientists. Just because you don’t Know about that evidence, does Not Mean that it doesn’t exist. The DNA from an unknown male has been in CODIS since 2003. Give the FBI a call. Clearly you people need to Learn what DNA is About. You have been watching TV for over 25 Years & you Choose to believe it All, as long as it’s Against - the Ramseys. You don’t care which one, Or, you decide on all 3. Yet, you don’t even know about ANY Actual Evidence. Shame on every one of You. This case - Has Never Been To Trial & so, You have Never Seen the Case Evidence. What sort of people say all they do about this Very Kind family, when you have Never even Seen Any of the Evidence about the Crime? Loads of you even Demean this murdered little girl also & since 2016, her 9 year old brother too, because of a Bogus TV ‘show’ that was put out by a pack of Con Artists. Burke was Never even a suspect & was interviewed That afternoon when he was still at the Whites by detective Patterson, Neither parent was present, Nor did they know that was happening. Patterson spoke Publicly after that BS ‘show’ & said Burke knew Nothing & was Very worried that his sister was still missing. None of you even Know what was Actually perpetrated upon JonBenet, nor do you Care to Find Out, because you’re all too busy spouting all your hateful Garbage about a case that You Know Nothing About & At a fine Upstanding family who Didn’t Do A Damn Thing & who, In Fact, were Victims.. Soo many down the threads, all sites, are an Absolute Disgrace & that’s just another True Fact. A great many people say that 'it doesn't add up'. But, soo many people, Don't Know Any True Facts about - Anything & so, you are Not in the position to say - that it doesn't add up. All Ramseys were Proven Innocent with a mountain of Actual evidence & eventually by a bunch of Seasoned Experts, including Forensic Scientists. All those under the umbrella of Law Enforcement who Saw 'Facts In Evidence' which Included the autopsy photos, the photo of the skull & the Authentic autopsy report. . . Until this case is brought to trial for criminal proceedings, the general public will Never get to know the True Facts about this case. Unless you start some Actual Research online, but that takes a whole lot of hard slog & one needs some experience just to tell the difference between a fake document & an authentic one. The vids are Still full of False & Misleading information whether old TV programmes or new Utube 'shows' & both show Fake pages put up on the screen As If from police files, the Same False & misleading information in soo many books. All of this BS has been going around for Over 25 years & counting. People need to wake up to themselves. Obviously too many in the public domain believe all that they read in trashy magazines too.

[@bethryan9077]

The BPD took the note to the Secret Service & they also hired 2 Renowned private experts, all 4 said No Ramsey wrote the note. **From the 1st week of 1997 til 2008, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under JB’s fingernails - unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but Never tested. Steve Thomas constantly talked about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury was to convene that more DNA tests were ordered. The blood was JBs & Same unknown male DNA - saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. The BPD & Steve Thomas, who had Never worked a murder case Before, were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD, whose officers Should have found JB early that morning though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they Failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. The broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point. Only America & one other country still has a stupid grand jury system. It is unfair, unjust & doesn't work. The jurors only hear from the prosecution, who get to pick & choose what evidence is presented & which witnesses appear. There is no judge, no defence lawyers & No experts to rebut Whatever is presented. As a consequence, the jury vote on the side of the prosecution 98.6% of the time. And Steve Thomas withheld a great deal of vital evidence. The vote was never for murder. Unlike the jury, the general public & the media, the DA Saw all the evidence known about at that time as did Lou Smit, one of the best investigators in the country. The DNA alone Proved just how Wrong the jury Were. Steve Thomas illegally took evidence material from the BPD & resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, that was the precursor for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That also. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his Story. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent. The investigation Continued along with a bevy of private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another. What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on national TV & for Years? NONE. The Ramseys continued that til Patsy died in 2006 & John continued the same & does to this day. Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolfe vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carne got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carne declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his integrity as a police officer & all his BS in that book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He did That to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carne was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with writing ‘samples’ As If Patsy’s, it’s all Fake. The public have Never seen Patsy’s writing. The Ramseys & Loads of others. who included known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA a Long time ago. The DNA from that unknown male was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - Same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & the outside there. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of Plus the DNA from the unknown male, that had also cleared John Mark Karr who said he did it. Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the Whites Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push This vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the BS continues. N.B. Who would Write a ransom note on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The Cops? There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That! The public need to understand that this case hasn’t been to Trial yet & so - You Know Nothing About This Crime, The Case Or About What Was Actually Perpetrated Upon This Poor Child. BTW - Burke, Was Never Even A Suspect. The Bits You Think You Know About this Crime - Are NOT True. *You all need to get this Very Clear - You Do Not Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years have Also stated that the Ramseys - Are Innocent. It’s 2022 & All is now Known - the 4 involved have been identified, 2 are dead, the BPD are holding things up. **The BPD have issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022

[@Lisa-MarieG]

@@bethryan9077 She was fully clothed. You must not have read the autopsy.

[@dbrown2264]

I'll give John Ramsey credit, he took the phrase "deny everything, admit nothing and make counter accusations" to a new level. It worked, along with some help from a schmuck DA and multiple incompetent Boulder PD staff.

[@CelineJ1992]

when john found his daughter's body but when pasty found out her hear breaking scream the tears were running down my face such a heart breaking scene 💔😭 RIP Jonbenet

[@MsRadar23]

yes…doesn’t feel like a killer would scream like that…

[@robertblakeman9978]

Who's Pasty??

[@chloeevans2569]

@@robertblakeman9978 the mom

[@LOVELAYNE-ix6zz]

@@MsRadar23 of course she would. She had to play it off.. Easy to do

[@Lisa-MarieG]

@@MsRadar23 Well, she wrote the 3 page ransom note. Literally every individual letter matched her writing flawlessly. I don't think Patsy actually killed her though. I don't think Patsy was a "bad" mother either. I think she was totally traumatized & acted out of desperation to protect her son. I think John also got involved to finish off what Burke started. I think Burke hit her with a golf club from the set that found right outside the room Jon Benet was found in. The same set John had the FBI ship to him in Atlanta. That's very odd. Because golf is a very popular sport in Atlanta. He definitely already had a set there/could've bought one there. A year prior to her death Burke had hit Jon Benet very hard in the head/face. It was so bad Patsy consulted a plastic surgeon.

[@deboraheller3401]

Always felt the brother did it & John & Patsy covered it up to keep from losing both kids. Money covered it up

[@MKR5210]

Agree.... 💯

[@davidwilliams4498]

Many people believe what you said. 1 fact makes me believe other wise. 2006 new technology DNA from JB fingernails an underpants was linked to 2 unknown males 1 was a Hispanic male. The Ramsey's even older half brother there DNA was not matched the defense fingernails or private parts DNA

[@bethryan9077]

@@MKR5210 To save him from the Trauma going on downstairs, Burke was taken to the Whites at 7.15 a.m., where their kids were present & some adult relatives. Burke was actually interviewed that very afternoon there at about 2 p.m., by detective Patterson who was at the Ramsey's house that morning. Neither of his parents were present for that interview that was recorded, nor did they know that was happening. Burke was taken to where the parents were at their friend's house & John told him then that JB was deceased. After that interview with Dr Phil & then the abysmal fall-out after that despicable Bogus CBS show was aired after that also in 2016, Patterson publicly defended Burke & stated on national TV that he’d conducted an interview with 9 year old Burke & he didn't know Anything at all & he’d been very worried that his little sister was still missing. Burke was interviewed again 10 days later by a police child service's officer, that took Hours. No lawyer or parents were with him & his parents had Allowed that interview to take place. The public have seen a few snippets of that interview, from shows on utube, the 'bits' that suit the agenda of the channels. Same in relation to the interview with a detective when Burke was 11. That went on over 2 days, no lawyer nor his parents were with him & again, his parents Allowed that interview to take place. Then, the poor Kid received a Subpoena to appear before the grand jury & off he went to do that Also, neither parent present & NO Lawyer there Either. N.B. - that was a black & white photo at the bottom of the page, Nobody could tell what the hell that was. Burke tried very hard to work out what he was supposed to see, eventually he said about a glass. That idiot detective kept saying pineapple, pineapple, pineapple. LOL. Burke thought that what was in the bowl may have been cereal because it looked like muck, in that photo. All items on that table were Staged by the perps, as were Lots of items all over the house. There were 18 Chunks of pineapple in that bowl. There were more than one 18s within this crime. Meyer's lucky number was 18. That bowl had the leftover icing from the kids & friends Xmas party on the 23rd, the bowl was with other bowls & containers on the table that had the lollies for the decorating of the gingerbread houses. In photos from that party, the bowl can be seen. Patsy bought a large bag of icing. That big heavy bowl was kept in a top cupboard in the kitchen. From whatever tabloid, book or utube show, people now say that pineapple & milk was Burke & JB's favourite. LOL. It was Not. Forensic science Proved that JB did Not eat Any of that pineapple. BTW - pineapple is Acidic, it would Curdle friggin Milk. They had all been up since 6 - 6.30 a.m. that Xmas Day morning & the kids played all day & with friends that afternoon & then again for half the night at the White's Xmas dinner party til about 9 p.m. JB fell into an Exhausted sleep when they got in the car to go home, making 2 stops on the way to drop off presents. JB was only 6 years old, she Did NOT Wake Up After That. Burke did Not say on the Dr Phil interview that he ‘woke up & went downstairs’ to play with a toy. He walked in the door & went straight to his multi-storey car garage that he was given for Xmas. His father went downstairs, helped him put that together for 15-20 minutes then took him up to his room & helped him get ready for bed. The kids Never went downstairs on their own at night. Burke had just turned 7 when he Accidentally hit JB with a toy golf club from a Backswing, it clocked her on the top of the cheekbone, he cried about it for a week. Nothing Else. The ever changing faeces Stories are Not true. He was Asked what he thought happened to his little sister in that interview 10 days later. He was friends with the White’s kids & the Stine’s kids who obviously were Not told the Details about all that happened to their little friend. As Kids, just like adults, they Speculate & they Overhear adults talking. The announcement through the media at the time was the True cause of death, Asphyxiation. The family were later told there was damage to the child’s skull. Both gross & Separate fractures were just After her death. As per, the hierarchy within the police do Not release all information, even to their own cops. The Fact is that the 1st fracture was Open front to back & nearly the length of the skull, the 2nd was a hole, the skull piece being split in 2 & inside. This total BS about a ‘bonk on the head’ grew legs because of Steve Thomas & his loon book of BS, that’s Why he was sued & then James Kolar did one better & said Burke did the head bonk. Thomas the twit was about to be fired for his despicable scenario & Kolar the clown Was fired for his rot with the added on BS coming from Jim Clemente in 2016 & so that farcical CBS show. One needs to Think about WHY that police Evidence of the 911 recording was put on a TV programme After the Ramsey’s book was released & they had appeared on the Larry King show in March 2000 where they spoke publicly about some of the cops’ failings. One needs to find out about Steve Thomas first though, the former narcotics officer, including that he constantly talked about the book he was going to write when supposedly working this case of a Child’s brutal murder. He said that Patsy hadn't hung up the phone properly & he said Burke could be heard saying something in the background. He accused the Ramseys of lying in saying Burke was asleep when that call was made. They were Incensed about that Next accusation & wanted to Hear what the cops were talking about. And, Thomas said Burke Only. The cops refused to let the Ramseys hear that recording. John & Patsy were So upset, they went on national TV & told the World what they had just been accused of & challenged the cops to cough-up with the tape. All went quiet. Please note, all this was After the grand jury hearing that took 13 months & where Burke was again questioned for a long time by the Special Prosecutor this time, Michael Kane. Next thing, a TV Show has the recording, Words are put on screen & suddenly it's supposedly All 3 Ramseys in the background. How amusing but typical form from that scumbag Steve Thomas who’s nothing but a Proven Liar, who’s only accolade before this murder case was busting a bike theft ring. He released his childish book, was promptly sued for all the Lies & lost every cent that he made from the public’s purse strings. He had then moved overseas with his tail firmly planted between his legs. When calling 911 Patsy was using the Wall phone in the alcove that was near that door by the grate that she called the kitchen door. John was reading the note over & over by her Then. In the Authentic recording of that call, Patsy hanging up the handset on the metal cradle that was at the side of that phone is Clearly heard, CLICK. IF the cops Actually had Any Ramseys in the background because Patsy didn’t hang up, the recording would have been played til the end & all would have heard CLICK. Under that phone on the wall, was a cupboard. If Patsy had put the handset down, all would have heard CLUNK. Here’s the thing, why would they lie about Burke being downstairs? He was Allowed downstairs! Yawn. And then there’s the Fact that the closeted 9 year old Kid, would have coughed up in a nanosecond that he was there when his mother made that 911 call. Why do tabloids print sensational headlines whether true or false? $$$. Why do 'authors' put a book together based on the same information from the magazines & TV shows? $$$. In the U.S., for the past 2 years, newscasts & talk shows have been getting out the info about the DNA again but they don't go into enough detail, too scared to be mobbed I presume. I see on utube, an explosion of podcasters pumping out shows since that time frame. They pump out the Same false & misleading information over & over again like well trained monkeys & many make up more garbage to keep all the Ramsey bashers entertained & Excited to be fired up. DNA is Science & science doesn’t lie. What I notice, is that only the Ramsey bashers Ignore that Scientific evidence. Of course, like soo much of the other Truth around this case, people have cherry picked what they choose to believe but at the same time, the Facts about the DNA are not detailed enough, thorough - being from the 1st week, unknown male DNA mixed with JB's DNA, under both of her pinkie fingernails. That was just the First results & it’s Known - Two unknown male DNA, several places on JB’s person. The DNA from one has been in CODIS since 2003. People don't realise that the cops do Not release the Case Evidence to the media & so, the public have No Idea what the Actual evidence of perpetrators in the house Is, nor do the public know all that Really happened to JB. People need to understand that this crime for money & revenge was very, Very well Planned. Everything was set up to incriminate all Ramseys if they called the cops. Just to clarify, there were Two severe skull fractures that occurred just after JB was strangled to death. Both were Precise & also pre-planned if the cops were called & so, all 3 weapons were at hand. That flashlight was Never a weapon used & did Not belong to the Ramseys. All the Stories about Burke, pineapple & the flashlight grew legs After that Bogus CBS show went to air in 2016. Lots of people Chose to believe that utter Nonsense because they’re not very Bright. FYI - Burke was Never even a suspect & that’s Why, within the Multitude of TV shows before 2016, he was never mentioned because the journos & presenters had No reason/cause to talk about him.

[@joanne12348]

Why would they loose two kids? Burke would have been too young to even be charged.. he was 9.. and it woild hsve ebeen down to a tragic accident lots of children hit siblings without intending to kill them..

[@nbenefiel]

Thinking either Patsy or John would deliberately strangle their precious daughter to death to protect Burke is ridiculous. She was conscious during the garroting. She fought the killer, scratching him.

[@glndlbro83]

Imagine if the late Jonathan Demme had directed a JonBenet Ramsey movie. The scene where JonBenet's body is discovered would have been SO intense!

[@iamthatiam1618]

Looking back at this whole entire case there are small things based on this movie I and others never mentioned and missed. I took notes. Examining every move and every word. Even things in the background. The Ramseys are very clever. And so are most of the people who know them.

[@vickijohnson9704]

So what?

[@E-Kat]

I'm clever too, some people say that; my son's IQ is extremely high, so what do you suggest?

[@iamthatiam1618]

Why do y'all feel like you gotta be in competition all of the time? Ignorant asf. A bunch of mindless sheep claiming to have high I.Q.'s which is the illusion you live in. Foh

[@hightreason7934]

This film captures the bizarre, contradictory, and frustrating nature of the case very well. I agree with John Douglas, who recalled it all in "The Cases That Haunt Us." It's POSSIBLE one or more of the surviving Ramseys were guilty, but highly unlikely. I like Schiller's ultimate focusing on Lou Smit's and Steve Thomas' opposing theories, with neither of them "winning." He doesn't settle on a particular theory and/or point a finger; this only deepens the mournful, tragic nature of this case that will never be solved in this lifetime, that destroyed a family.

[@bethryan9077]

Known Facts - Alarm set 5.30 a.m. & the Ramseys were to get on a plane for Charlevoix. Patsy found the note, raced upstairs, found JB gone & screamed for John. He just said “call the police”. It was pitch dark, no-one around & they were terrified. Who would know how long til cops arrived? After calling 911 she called the Whites & Fernies for Help. John Fernie called their pastor for prayers & comfort. The cops called 2 victim's advocates. 2 got in the kitchen door when the Ramseys went to the Whites for dinner. They had broken in before & is why they knew where everything was, where to go & exactly what they were going to do. At about 1.30 a.m. JB was choked with the white nylon cord & tasered on her back in her bed, wrapped in 2 white blankets & carried to the boiler room. When the cord was quickly released she screamed, a neighbour heard that because of the vent in the boiler room. Fibres from the cord were found on JBs sheet & are in evidence. They ran out a side door, down to the back & waited under a pine tree then went back in. They had run into the metal ladder & it hit the cement as they ran out. That was the 'crash' noise the neighbour's husband heard. Fresh pine needles came off one of their jackets & were found in the cellar & are in evidence. She was given a lot of water in the early hours & tasered & tortured near that boiler room. The huge pee staining on both undergarments prove that. That was not a garrotte it was a complex bondage device & made by the 17 year old who was into causing fear & using electricity. Both these factors & position is why there is such large pee staining on the front of both undergarments & near to the waistbands. The carpet & underlay were cut out due to the pee stain & are in evidence. The nylon cord was bought as it had to be a bit slippery for the purpose. The knots were intricate & specific then a certain number of ties on the wood & then the 3 loops. When that was done the rest of the cord was JB's exact height. The tip of the paintbrush was cut off & never found. That was not a paintbrush of Patsy’s. JB was given pineapple fruitcake earlier & at 5.30 a.m. She did not eat any of that pineapple that was in the bowl, that was part of the staging, one of many. ‘The stomach contains a small amount (8-10cc) of viscous to green to tan coloured thick material of no particulate matter identified’. ‘The Proximal Portion (Top) of the Small Intestine contains fragmented pieces of yellow to light green-tan apparent vegetable or fruit material which may represent fragments of pineapple’. Arndt was there & told the ME chunks of pineapple were in a bowl. It takes 2 hours for stomach contents to go to the top of the intestine. In Patsy’s recorded statement June ’98, Thomas Haney told her the pineapple in the bowl was Different to the bits in the top of the Intestine. When Patsy called 911, JB was strangled to death in a rage on top of the dryer in the basement laundry. Cops coming meant no money. There was a phone in that laundry. The one piece of tape was put over her mouth to stop fluids getting on their clothes & she was carried to the cellar. Then 3 blows to the head, 3 weapons & each is in evidence. The 1st was a brick on the top of the head & that caused the huge fracture. The 2nd was a utility knife & small stabs to the skull in a shape. The tool used was broken off & not found. The 3rd was the end of the steel kid's ball bat & that caused the hole that the stabs started. They had planned if the cops were called. They didn't plan that Patsy would stay on the phone calling friends to come & help. That phone on the wall was in the alcove near to where they had to get out the basement door & then their exit door. Glenn Meyer was the author of the note & he organised it all for money with 3 from the house on the corner. One had a huge grudge against John in relation to a family business in Michigan. All was set up to incriminate all Ramseys if no money was paid. Their back-up was the taking of photos. Many items were brought into the house & staged. Many items were taken from cupboards & drawers & staged all over the house, basement & a few things outside. Meyer was secretly living in the Barnhill's basement across the road. He got to know a great deal about the Ramseys. JB's dog was mostly kept there & the kids & Patsy were over there often. Patsy gave the Barnhills many cards, letters & notes in her print writing over the years. It is easy to copy print writing & he only had to do Some letters like hers as it was Supposed to look like she was trying to disguise hers, which is impossible to do btw. From his vantage point Myer could see through both staircase windows & knew Patsy & John came down the back stairs each morning to make coffee. The note was spread out so all 3 pages would be seen, they wanted their money. The notepad was taken at the Xmas party on the 23rd. Meyer went over saying he was looking for the Barnhills worried about them ensuring he was let in. John took him to where they were sitting & he stayed. The Ramseys didn't even know who he was. JB was never to be taken from the house they had nowhere to operate. The SBTC & Victory is about a plane. Joe Barnhill was a radial gunner in WW2 & flew on the SB2C, Two - T, so SBTC. That was a famous bomber plane & lauded for bringing the war to victory. Meyer had a poster of that plane on a wall in his room, Victory was on the side of the plane. There is a photo of Barnhill holding a framed picture of that plane. From the advanced forensics, the private investigators who never gave up & as happens with lots of crimes, people talk eventually & is why so much is now known Plus because the crime scene techs did an excellent job in taking all the photos & the videos & collecting all the DNA. The Ramseys never put one foot back in that house ever again from after JB was found & they left. The trauma was way too much, but if they Had been able to, this case would have been a Very different matter for all involved. The discoveries were everywhere if the family would have seen it all with very astute investigators. Thomas was only brought into the case 4 days after because the investigators present refused to target the Ramseys. He was an ex-narcotics officer who had Zero experience with Any murder before let alone a ransom, which was the first crime. He thought he would make a name for himself from this high profile crime. His partner was an auto-theft officer. The BPD spent their time covering up their total incompetence. They rarely had a murder & this was their first for '96. They refused help from the FBI & the CBI. They put about misinformation & leaked certain photos. That amount of $118,000 was near John's bonus for '95 & was paid to him in March '96. The amount was on his pay stubs each month of '96. The suitcase was already placed under the window & the window was opened after the cops left. Both done as subterfuge. Same with the fresh green leaves that were dumped at the grate & some 'caught' under it. Lou made a mistake about that window, that's all. It was never an entry or exit point. Early that morning, 2 officers did not go in the train room door & 2 failed to pull open that cellar door. There is soo much more to this case that the public don't know about. The type of air taser used has been identified. The burns on JBs back & face are from same taser. The 2nd point was under JB's ear. The burn on her face was bigger because the point was placed there more than once - control. Google the murder of Gerald Boggs 1993 Colorado. His autopsy photo shows the Exact same burns on his face, the 2nd point was on his earlobe. Those tasers were widely used by drug dealers in the 90s. The big underpants JB was found in were put on her in the early hours. Patsy, her sister, their mother & JB went to New York Xmas shopping. Patsy bought her niece a pack of 7 underpants from Bloomingdales that were called Bloomies. They were size 12-14 & had the weekdays on the waistbands. Patsy also bought from there 2 special Barbie dolls for JB. One had her own pair of underpants also called Bloomies. JB begged her mother for the pack of 7 so she had some like her doll. Patsy gave in & they were put away for JB til she would fit into them, about 8 years away. They were put in the back of a drawer in JB's bathroom. When they got home JB went to see her dog at the Barnhills & told them about her special presents. Meyer was ever listening. JB was found in the ones that had Wednesday on the waistband. It was a Wednesday that year for Xmas Day. Access the photo of the paint tray on the carpet. Look to the left a bit at the tray & up a bit, you will see a drawing of a sinister smirking cat's face/head on the carpet, as on the note - fat cat. That was not a nightgown of JBs found in the cellar, it was a dress taken off her life-sized doll that was kept in the corner of her room, but found in the playroom standing at a window. That bowl (with chunks of pineapple) was used at the Xmas party on the 23rd & had the icing for the gingerbread houses that all the kids were given & they decorated themselves. That was a heavy bowl & that was icing not milk. There were No fingerprints on that bowl. That glass had a dried tea bag & no tea was made in that. That silver ladle in the bowl came from a cupboard near the spiral staircase & was from a boxed set of 2 that the Ramseys received as a wedding present & had never been opened. That was chosen & placed because of the filigree that was the same as the filigree on many of JB's crowns. The Ramseys were finally exonerated in 2008 due to All the evidence that showed someone was in the house, over 200 pieces of & the DNA cleared them plus lots of others then & since. It is 2021, all is known & 4 involved have been identified, 2 are dead. Justice is coming.

[@bethryan9077]

Thomas said that Patsy had a hissy fit because JB wet the bed & she slammed her daughter into the side of the bath & then the rest was staged. But there were Two severe fractures to the skull. No-one gets a long fracture down the skull Plus a hole from a shove into the side of a bath. If Either fracture occurred Before death, the skull would have been filled with blood, it wasn't. JB didn't wet the bed that night either. I've explained about that also in the basic narrative I just sent you. The autopsy photo shows the cord embedded in her neck. I sure know that Thomas was not only a highly deceptive snake he was a blatant liar. There were dig marks from her nails at the cord because she was fighting for her life when strangled to death. Her gold chain that she was given for Xmas is just at the base of the cord. That was held in place to start with, so 2 involved & JB was on her back looking up at the person strangling her. There were abrasions at the base of her neck also because of acts in bondage & the cord being tightened, loosened & tightened. The tip of the paintbrush was used at her privates & that was never found because some deviants keep trophies. Lou made a mistake about that window that's all & there were 2 perps in the house not one. Lou solved over 150 murders, Thomas couldn't find a key in a keyhole & had zero experience with any murder case before. He not only withheld vital evidence from his DA he deliberately leaked confidential information to the media. When he couldn't get his own way he illegally took evidence material from the BPD & went on national TV to read his resignation letter because that was his marketing ploy for his book of bs blaming Patsy. He was promptly sued & garnered money from the public for his defence. He refused to get on the stand & the case was settled out of court. He lost every cent. He & Kolar are the same despicable cockroaches. CBS & the 'crew' on their Bogus doc came out of the same hole. Their 'show' was formatted to Kolar's book of lies blaming Burke. Sensationalism sells obviously. CBS were mightily sued for their gross misleading of the public & Lee & Spitz were personally sued for their deliberate lies & misinformation. Kolar sat there letting them all do his dirty work. Burke was compelled to do the Dr Phil interview to try & defend himself. The Ramseys don't even know all that was perpetuated upon their poor child nor do they know all that went on in that house. This case is solved. When the one who was 17 at the time is found there will be an announcement. The authorities know who he is. The other one committed suicide last year after being questioned. They both left town within the week & it's their DNA that was left. Meyer was in the basement taking photos in the early hours for a short time. A Camel cig butt is being tested now. The 4th one was never in the house so no DNA. He had the only car & was to get the cash from John. Their back-up if the cops were called were the photos. At the beginning the big clue for me was - nobody would Write a ransom note on their Own notepad with their Own marker & then put both near the phone For The Cops. And woopsie, the body is still in the house.

[@cindyluuu1605]

Rip

[@cindyluuu1605]

Rest in peace and we will miss you so much I love you very much

[@Bandit4711]

I agree 💯👍 nobody says anything about the DNA found under her finger nails which doesn't match any of the ramsey family and the DNA found in three different locations in the house that isn't a match either??? If patsy is guilty??? Were is the evidence??? How come she isn't behind bars????

[@dreanicole6591]

This happend not to far from me. We were the same age and I remember my parents not letting stay out late playing in the yard. Now I see this and I strongly believe it’s a inside job idc what anyone says. Rip jonbenet ❤

[@wcolautti]

I agree with you; the family knows what happened. That poor little girl. I don’t think her parents killed her and I do believe it was an accident. Its just so awful. 😔😢

[@SusieQ1971]

Why would they let you play outside late anyway even before this case? That's just common sense not to let your kids play after dark. I grew up in the 70s and 80s and couldn't be out after dark without an adult present until high school.

[@dreanicole6591]

@@SusieQ1971 believe me I agree with you.

[@jshonert]

I think that when Burke got up and Patsy fixed him a bowl of pineapple - - which was his favorite thing of all - - then JonBenet Got up, came down the circular stairs, and demanded a couple of pieces of pineapple. This pissed off Burke and he grabbed the long flashlight And connked JonBenet on the head. (he had hit her a year before with the golf club) Jonbenet Was dying from cranial abrasion that went across our entire skull with a serious contusion. She was dying and I believe someone in that family - - most probably Burke - - who had learned all about tying knots in the Boy Scouts - - tied the garrote around her neck and strangled her I think patsy wrote the cover-up letter. Burke was insanely jealous of Jonbenet; & Wood leave his feces, smeared in her bed and on her Christmas gifts. I think Burke was the culprit. On that 911 call after Patsy is finished the operater is still on and you hear john Ramsey ask Burke “what did you do? “ yet both Joan and pat see told the police that Berg was asleep through the entire ordeal.

[@jshonert]

Ps: Burke was insanely jealous of JonBenet who got all the nicest gifts costumes and attention from many beauty pageants. That’s men’s Rea. He was absolutely jealous of her.

[@chieutranhyamaguchi4374]

I cried watching this 😥

[@kitkat9259]

I couldn’t imagine how this feels I cried when I first watched this movie it’s sad I pray they find whoever killed this sweet little angel 😭 I hope they finally get closure and then be able to rest easier knowing justice has been served

[@H3ARTSFROMNIAH]

What makes no sense is that even if it was an intruder why would they write a letter saying she’s alive and they want money if they knew the body was in their house and they could find her any second? I believe til this day that it was the family

[@bethryan9077]

@@H3ARTSFROMNIAH The BPD took the note to the Secret Service & they also hired 2 Renowned private experts, all 4 said No Ramsey wrote the note. The Ramsey’s attorneys also hired 2 of the best in the country & both said the same. **From the 1st week of 1997 til 2007, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under JB’s fingernails - unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas & his cronies kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months. The same Steve Thomas who later went on to Pretend that he was lead detective & he still does. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but Never tested. Steve Thomas constantly talked about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury was to convene that more DNA tests were ordered. The blood was JBs & Same unknown male DNA - saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. The BPD were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD, whose officers Should have found JB early that morning though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they Failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. The broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point. Only America & one other country still has a stupid grand jury system. It is unfair, unjust & doesn't work. The jurors only hear from the prosecution, who get to pick & choose what evidence is presented & which witnesses appear. There is no judge, no defence lawyers & unless subpoenaed by the prosecution - No experts to rebut Whatever is presented. As a consequence, the jury vote on the side of the prosecution 98.6% of the time. And the BPD withheld a great deal of vital evidence. The vote was never for murder. John & Patsy never received subpoenas to appear & so they were prevented from testifying. They wrote to Governor Owens about this & he didn’t even reply. Unlike the jury, the general public & the media, the DA Saw all the evidence known about at that time as did Lou Smit, one of the best investigators in the country. Less than half the States, still have this abysmal grand jury system. The DNA alone Proved just how Wrong the jury Were. The investigators Present refused to target the Ramseys but Unfortunately Steve Thomas was brought into the case 3 days later & his goal was to make a name for himself. 18 months later he illegally took evidence material from the BPD & resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, that was the precursor for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That also. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his Story. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent of the hundreds of thousands of dollars he made from that book. The investigation Continued along with a bevy of private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another. What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on national TV & for Years? NONE. The Ramseys continued that til Patsy died in 2006 & John continued the same & does to this day. Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolfe vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carne got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carne declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his integrity as a police officer & all his BS in that book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He did That to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carne was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with writing ‘samples’ As If Patsy’s, it’s all Fake. The public have Never seen Patsy’s writing. The Ramseys & Loads of others. who included known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA a Long time ago. The DNA from that unknown male was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - Same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & the outside there. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of Plus the DNA from the unknown male, that had also cleared John Mark Karr who said he did it. Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the White’s Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push This vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the BS continues. James Kolar was in the office of the DA, Mary Lacy, for a very short time & was Fired. He also ran off to write His book of BS & blamed Burke because he needed new fodder. His ‘Story’ was so ludicrous, no publisher would touch it. He had to pay to self-publish & to very poor sales. He was & still is, just Another con artist & Proven Liar. Then CBS heard the sound of Kerching. N.B. Who would Write a ransom note on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The Cops? There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That! Mark Beckner eventually found some integrity & publicly stated “when the owner of the DNA is found, there’s your killer”. The public need to understand that this case hasn’t been to Trial yet & so - You Know Nothing True About This Crime, The Case Or About What Was Actually Perpetrated Upon This Poor Child. BTW - Burke, Was Never Even A Suspect. The bits you Think You Know about this crime - Are NOT True. *You all need to get this Very Clear - You Do Not Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years have Also stated that the Ramseys - Are Innocent. **The BPD have issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022.

[@bethryan9077]

@@H3ARTSFROMNIAH The Present officers had No problems believing the Ramseys were genuine & Linda Arndt wrote a Favourable report about the Ramseys & said their behaviour was appropriate to the circumstances. The media went into a frenzy because the body was found in the house & they considered that to have been on Arndt's watch. She arrived at 8.10 a.m. with detective Patterson. It was actually Her who moved the body to the living room. Eight cops & detectives arrived at various times that morning, Nobody was looking for JB, it was a Ransom Note. It was the Cops who should have found JB early that morning, Not her poor father that afternoon. The BPD then went into damage control to save their Own asses & so the BS began. Arndt was put on desk duties, didn’t like what was going on in the office & was gone by May. Her next job was as a tree lopper. Many today still believe that Arndt was the only officer at the house all day when That is not true either, she was on her own from 10.30 a.m. Next - she had great acting lessons for that Performance on national TV because she was after a book deal Too. Next - she tried to sue the BPD for Money, but lost the case. Her report to the BPD was in the public domain & so, she was Caught as a Liar & later retracted all she said in that abysmal interview. Somewhere along the line she had Regret at least & when Patsy was dying, Arndt went to see her & apologised for all she had said for the TV audience & vowed to help find the killer. BTW - Lying loon Arndt knew Full Well the note said Tomorrow but deliberately didn’t mention That in her interview on TV. The Ramseys gave the cops free reign to their house from the minute officer French walked in the door just before 6 a.m. because they had Nothing To Hide. They spoke to the cops & detectives in total, for Hours that morning & after JB was found. Burke was interviewed when still at the Whites at 2 p.m. by detective Patterson, Neither parent was present, nor did they know that was happening. John spoke with the Ds that night, Patsy was bedridden by then. Arndt asked John for them to go to the PD on the 28th. The Ramseys had already witnessed how inept the cops Were & John hired a private investigator straight away. All Ramseys gave the required samples & John spoke to the Ds for 2 hours again that day. He asked Eller to speak to Patsy at the house where they were staying because she was so ill & medicated, Eller refused to do that. Steve Thomas was brought in because the Present investigators refused to target the Ramseys. Thomas had Zero experience with Any murder case before & thought he would make a name for himself from this high profile crime & later dubbed himself as lead detective when he was Not. His partner was an auto-theft officer. The BPD rarely had a murder & this was the first for '96. The next 2 up the ladder had No experience with homicide Either. The BPD refused help from the FBI, the CBI & the Denver PD. The present investigators had no concerns about deception but Then the body was found in the house when the Cops should have found her early that morning & the BPD went into damage control & so, the BS Began. False & misleading information was already being leaked to the media. The Ramseys were told they were being targeted & advised to get lawyers. Very sound advice & the Right of All citizens. The talk was through the lawyers then, That's how it Goes. John went on to hire 3 more private investigators. What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on national TV & for Years? NONE. And John continued that after Patsy died. He & John Andrew continue Still. The general public know Nothing about this crime & know nothing True about this case. Most don't even Know what Actually happened to JB. The Ramseys were Proven Innocent a long time ago, it is way over time to leave the family In Peace. Patsy was using the Wall phone that was near the kitchen. In the Real recording of that call, Patsy hanging up the handset on the cradle is Clearly heard - CLICK. IF the cops Actually had Any Ramseys in the background because Patsy didn’t hang up, the recording would have been played til the end & all would have heard CLICK. And, Steve Thomas refused to have that call forensically sound tested. Funny that. It was before 6 a.m., pitch dark outside, no-one around & they were terrified. Who would know how long the cops would take to get there. After that Desperate 911 call, Patsy called the Whites, the Fernies - for Help. Mrs Stine too but she couldn’t come. John Fernie later called their pastor for prayers & comfort, it was going to be a long wait, the note said Tomorrow. The cops called 2 victim’s advocates to come. 8 cops & detectives arrived at various times that morning, Nobody was looking for JB, it was a Ransom note. John did Not go straight to the cellar. He & Fleet White were checking out the broken window, looking for any glass at all. They had checked the 2 cupboards in that co-joined room first. The cellar was the next room at that end of the basement, that’s all. John had Presumed the cops down the basement that morning had checked out that broken window early that morning. He was to find out later that the cops hadn't gone through the train room door & so to those windows. The cops didn't know about that broken window til they went back that evening. That's Why the 'famous' photo of the open window was taken in the Night. The cops have always kept That info Hidden from the public As Well The same cops, also failed to flip the latch down on the top of door jamb of the cellar door & pull that door open, they just walked away. Officer Veitch went around the exterior when still dark that morning with his flashlight, he failed to see those same windows that could be accessed under the grate. Reichenbach went around the exterior also, he too failed to see those windows. He reported to the 2 detectives, when all 3 were sitting in the car at the supermarket carpark, that there was no forced entry yet he hadn’t checked the Double door near the kitchen either. That broken window is Not where the perps got into the house, but That is Not the point. Steve Thomas & the other keystone cops continually said that John had lied about getting in that window when he locked himself out of the house in the summer, even though the housekeeper had vacuumed up the broken glass there 2 times. Thomas nor any other cop Ever tried to climb in there. Down the track, it took Lou Smit to Demonstrate, that John Could fit through there & so what he said about that was Also True. There were Fresh green leaves dumped at that grate & some ‘caught’ under the edge of it that was farthest from the window side, as If someone had lifted the grate & then when putting it back down, leaves were caught under there. Thomas the Twit said in his book of BS, that the greenery was Foliage & what was Under the Edge of the grate that Sat on the brickwork, had Grown Under It. Jeeez. One just needs to see the crime scene Photos taken of that area & all around the exterior, to See that there is No Other Leaves Or ‘Foliage’, let alone Green & the gardener had been recently & everything was Clear & Cleaned Up. That will give the people some idea of the level of the Intellect of just one of the so-called ‘investigators’ on this case.

[@AApr1374Jo1881]

Parents know what happened to their daughter.

[@shirleyminassian1547]

@@H3ARTSFROMNIAH me too, family accident covered up.

[@chrissyart7984]

This movie Clearly Shows How INCOMPETENT the Boulder police where at the time...

[@seanohare5488]

Definitely

[@jamesradskijr.9745]

That doesn't rule out parents.

[@commonsensenow7112]

It also shows how incompetent and deranged some of the parents reactions were. They brought the suspicion upon themselves, based on the variety of ways they reacted throughout the investigation.

[@dodgecrockett3474]

Yeah Chrissy, and your post clearly shows how easy it is to play Monday morning quarterback. God your job is easy.

[@southerngirlraven7]

The grand jury voted to indict them. The blame for it never making it to court doesn’t lie at the police’s feet, but rather at the D.A’s. Had there been a trial, things may have been very different for the Ramsey’s.

[@KingofPepsi]

The Ramseys do exactly the opposite from what the "ransom letter" says. John and Patsy know exactly what happened that night. And Patsy obviously wrote the letter.

[@seanohare5488]

Definitely

[@estaever3532]

John wrote the Letter

[@estaever3532]

Who else could it be only him 😈

[@nbenefiel]

Anyone finding a letter like that and NOT notifying the police is a fool. The BPD should have immediately notified the FBI. they know how to deal with this kind of crime.

[@bethryan9077]

@@estaever3532 The Boulder PD hired 2 private handwriting analysts & they also took the note to the Secret Service for 2 of Their experts, all 4 said NO Ramsey wrote the note. The Ramsey’s attorneys also hired 2 of the best in the country & both said the same. A few of the letters had the formation Similar to the formation of Some of Patsy’s letters because that’s how it was SET UP To BE. The letter formations were Not the only aspect that told the Real experts that NO Ramsey was involved in the writing of that Ridiculous note. And, the public have Never SEEN Patsy’s actual writing. From the 1st week of 1997 til 2007, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under both of JB’s pinkie fingernails - Unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas & his cronies kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months & so of course, the public too. The same Steve Thomas who had Never worked a murder case before but later went on to Pretend that he was lead detective & he still does. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but that was Never tested. Steve Thomas got around the office constantly talking about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury were to convene when the Ramsey’s attorneys found out about the 2 spots of blood & the DA finally ordered that to be tested. The blood was JBs plus Unknown male DNA being saliva mixed in one spot of the blood. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. Desperate Thomas worked Very hard to keep the Fact that there was now Two lots of Unknown male DNA evidence, from the media & so from the public domain. The BPD were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media from the very beginning & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD’s cops Should have found JB early that morning, though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. Two of them went around the exterior at separate times early that morning, one with a flashlight. Both failed to see those windows under the grate where one was clearly broken at the top section, being a gaping hole. That broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point. The investigators Present refused to target the Ramseys but unfortunately Steve Thomas was brought into the case 3 days later & his goal was to make a name for himself. 18 months later he illegally took evidence material from the BPD, snuck off on a ruse & then resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, the reading of his Pathetic letter blaming the DA for his Own failings, was his Marketing Ploy for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of Lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That, either. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his ‘Story’. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent of the hundreds of thousands of dollars he made from that book. The investigation Continued with a bevy of actual Seasoned private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another. Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolf vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carnes got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carne declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his role as a police officer & about some of the BS in his book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He made up a time of death to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carne was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. There was No basis for that case to go forward to trial so Wolf lost. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with samples of the letters from the note down columns & letters Next to those, exactly the same, As If Patsy wrote those letters, it’s all Fake. Every man & his dog has been out to make Money off the back of this high profile crime. The Ramseys & Lots of suspects, including known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA. The DNA from the 1st unknown male that was under her pinkie fingernail plus his Saliva in one spot of her blood in the big underpants, was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - Same unknown male’s DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & outside there, being pulled up/down. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly & Officially in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of, Plus the DNA from that unknown male, that had also cleared John Mark Karr in 2006, who said he did it. Take note of that Year. Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the White’s Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push this vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the never ending same old same old False information continues with many making up New false information for the titillation factor. Years down the track James Kolar was in the office of the DA, Mary Lacy, for a very short time & was Fired. He also ran off to write His book of BS & blamed Burke because he needed new fodder. Like Steve Thomas, Kolar had Never worked a murder case either. His ‘Story’ was so ludicrous, no publisher would touch it. He had to pay to self-publish & to very poor sales. He was & still is, just Another con artist & Proven Liar. Then CBS heard the sound of Kerching & that Bogus ‘show’ was aired in 2016, predominately blaming Burke & that’s why Kolar was on there like a Snake in the grass. NOBODY would try to disguise their handwriting - by Handwriting 3 pages of 365 words & numbers as a ransom note plus use their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The COPS. There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That! More than one Incompetent cop had moron syndrome so this case was Never going to be solved.. The 2nd Commander put in charge of the BPD by the name of Mark Beckner, was put in place in December 1997. He eventually found some integrity & publicly stated in 2015, words to the effect - “when the owner of the DNA is found, there’s your killer”. *All highly ignorant Ramsey bashers need to get this Very Clear - You Do NOT Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or John Douglas or Lou Smit or Ollie Grey OR the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years & to this day Also state that the Ramseys - ARE Innocent.* The Boulder PD issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022. Go find that online & read it Slowly. Last December a cold case team were put together by the Colorado Bureau of Investigation & they’re on the job. They also have the go-ahead to have both intruders DNA reanalysed with the advanced technology & can have untested evidence items from the BPD’s dungeon, to be analysed with same. The FBI are involved with this investigation, finally. One can only hope that this cold case team will have Integrity. And, that none will be after a book deal like certain officers from before, who are Totally responsible for every single Unfounded accusation against all Ramsey family members that goes on & on still to this day for No sound reason At All. The government are Not spending Loads of $$ going after the Proven INNOCENT Ramseys.

[@lll636]

If I was the mother and father i would desperately be trying to find out who did it and help the police as much as I could. Seems odd they became defensive if they have nothing to hide.

[@bethryan9077]

That is just not true & that BS was spread around by the Cops to keep the heat of the media off their incompetent asses. The Ramseys gave the cops free reign to their house from the minute officer French walked in the door because they had Nothing to hide. They spoke to the cops & detectives in total for Hours that morning & after JB was found. Burke was interviewed when still at the Whites at 2 p.m. by detective Patterson, Neither parent was present, nor did they know that was happening. John spoke with the Ds that night, Patsy was bedridden by then. Arndt asked John for them to go to the PD on the 28th. The Ramseys had already witnessed how inept the cops Were & John hired a private investigator straight away. They gave the required samples & John spoke to the Ds for 2 hours again that day. Steve Thomas was brought in because the present investigators refused to target the Ramseys. Thomas had Zero experience with Any murder case before & thought he would make a name for himself from the high profile crime. His partner was an auto-theft officer. The BPD rarely had a murder & this was the first for '96. The next 2 up the ladder had No experience with homicide Either. The BPD refused help from the FBI & the CBI. The present investigators had No problems believing the Ramseys were genuine that day. Then the body was found in the house when the Cops should have found her early that morning & the BPD went into damage control & so, the BS Began. False & misleading information was already being leaked to the media. The Ramseys were told they were being targeted & advised to get lawyers. Very sound advice & the Right of All citizens. The talk was through the lawyers then, That's how it Goes. John went on to hire 3 more private investigators. What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on national TV & for Years? NONE. And John continued that after Patsy died. He & John Andrew continue Still. You people know Nothing about this crime & know nothing True about this case. Most of you don't even Know what Actually happened to JB. The Ramseys were Proven Innocent a long time ago, it is way over time to leave the family In Peace.

[@bethryan9077]

The BPD took the note to the Secret Service & they also hired 2 Renowned private experts, all 4 said No Ramsey wrote the note. **From the 1st week of 1997 til 2008, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under JB’s fingernails - unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but Never tested. Steve Thomas constantly talked about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury was to convene that more DNA tests were ordered. The blood was JBs & Same unknown male DNA - saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. The BPD & Steve Thomas, who had Never worked a murder case Before, were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD, whose officers Should have found JB early that morning though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they Failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. The broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point. Only America & one other country still has a stupid grand jury system. It is unfair, unjust & doesn't work. The jurors only hear from the prosecution, who get to pick & choose what evidence is presented & which witnesses appear. There is no judge, no defence lawyers & No experts to rebut Whatever is presented. As a consequence, the jury vote on the side of the prosecution 98.6% of the time. And Steve Thomas withheld a great deal of vital evidence. The vote was never for murder. Unlike the jury, the general public & the media, the DA Saw all the evidence known about at that time as did Lou Smit, one of the best investigators in the country. The DNA alone Proved just how Wrong the jury Were. Steve Thomas illegally took evidence material from the BPD & resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, that was the precursor for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That also. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his Story. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent. The investigation Continued along with a bevy of private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another. What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on national TV & for Years? NONE. The Ramseys continued that til Patsy died in 2006 & John continued the same & does to this day. Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolfe vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carne got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carne declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his integrity as a police officer & all his BS in that book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He did That to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carne was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with writing ‘samples’ As If Patsy’s, it’s all Fake. The public have Never seen Patsy’s writing. The Ramseys & Loads of others. who included known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA a Long time ago. The DNA from that unknown male was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - Same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & the outside there. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of Plus the DNA from the unknown male, that had also cleared John Mark Karr who said he did it. Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the Whites Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push This vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the BS continues. N.B. Who would Write a ransom note on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The Cops? There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That! The public need to understand that this case hasn’t been to Trial yet & so - You Know Nothing About This Crime, The Case Or About What Was Actually Perpetrated Upon This Poor Child. BTW - Burke, Was Never Even A Suspect. The Bits You Think You Know About this Crime - Are NOT True. *You all need to get this Very Clear - You Do Not Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years have Also stated that the Ramseys - Are Innocent. It’s 2022 & All is now Known - the 4 involved have been identified, 2 are dead, the BPD are holding things up. **The BPD have issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022

[@bethryan9077]

@Casagonzalez Gonzalez This is the problem for all those like Yourself - you don't know Anything about the crime, the case Or about what was Actually perpetrated upon this poor Child nor do you Care to Find Out what Really happened to JonBenet, because you're all too busy bangin on with a load of Endless Rubbish about her whole family. The same menagerie of people who are Misinformed, Naive, Ignorant, Rude, Aggressive, Abusive, Despicable & downright Stupid. The Same people who denigrate the Ramseys for a blink of an eye & accuse them of abuse for No sound reason as well as the accusations of vile acts against Both Kids plus the sadistic Murder of their adored 6 year old little girl. Then there's all those who are even Worse & say the Same about JB's 9 year old Kid brother. You all post your crap about this fine upstanding family who were In Fact - All Proven Innocent a Long Long time ago. BTW - who would Write a ransom note & on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The Cops! Only morons believe Patsy did That! Loads of you Make Up more stupid Shite & post about your ‘observations’ as if you are seasoned investigators working the case that Must Have happened Recently. LOL. Comment pages full of never ending mindless thought processes due to your severe Lack of Knowledge, Hateful hearts & then there's all the Envy going on. The Ramseys were Proven Innocent, due to a mountain of something called Evidence & by a bunch of Real experts under the umbrella of Law Enforcement, who included Forensic Scientists. Just because You Don't Know about that evidence, Does NOT Mean that it doesn't Exist. The Exoneration of all the Ramseys in 2008 was just from evidence that was known about way back at that time. FYI - the investigation Continued. All of you brainwashed zombies are running around trying to feel all important & so smart yet don't even have 3 brain cells left to realise that - this case hasn't been to trial & so, the Actual Evidence about the case was Not released to the media & So, not on your TV. Loads of unscrupulous people have made loads of Dollars from people like You. Doh. Then there's the Industry of so-called 'experts' who say Whatever & you all lap it up with fervent Glee. You watch TV, pick out what you Choose to believe, then post that on these sites As If facts whilst at the same time dreaming up more BS & posting that As If factual too. Yawn. Some people have done actual Research, isn't that Shocking. You & your like watch TV shows full of False & misleading information & read books of BS & then repeat it all like well trained monkeys at a Zoo. Go Learn what DNA is for a Start. The DNA that was Collected, several places on JB’s person. The DNA from an Unknown Male, that has been in CODIS since 2003 & which Means - NO Ramseys At All. You all need to get this Very Clear - You Do Not Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years have Also stated that the Ramseys - Are Innocent. **The Boulder PD have issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022. All you highly ignorant Ramsey bashers need to Read That.

[@mikejustice1196]

What was there for them to hide ?

[@nbenefiel]

John Ramsey has spent most of his fortune trying to find who killed his daughter.

[@sheilaackers3854]

God bless rip Jon Bernet.

[@agacicello5090]

That poor baby never got justice 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼💔💔😞

[@seanohare5488]

Sad but true

[@blueempress4life946]

1. Great Acting. 2. Cross-contamination all the way. 3. Gross incompetence Authority figures. 4. Double-crossing and egos interfering with the case. And last but definitely not least, R.I.P. sweet JonBenet. Taken too soon!

[@motorsportmoments]

The entire department should have been investigated for tampering with crime scene evidence and destroying crime scene evidence. The moment they arrived everyone should’ve been kicked out of the house and the house should’ve been closed off to anybody that’s not a detective or police officer. Pictures should’ve been taken and the entire house should’ve been searched. The fact they missed the girl on the first go-around shows they didn’t check hard enough. If they missed the girl on the first time around who knows what else they missed and what lingered in the kitchen before it got cleaned. God knows the kitchen could’ve been what solved this case 25 years ago. For the pineapple, that’s the only baffling thing about the case. If nobody fed her pineapple who did? Fingerprint say the mother gave pineapple but she said she didn’t. Since they have been cleared by DNA evidence why would she lie? Heat of the moment? I don’t think so. The mother knows something or is guilty of something. This case will hopefully be solved with new technology advancements but the police department that investigated the case 25 years ago fucked it hard. I don’t blame people for quitting on the case. I probably would’ve quit too if the investigating department was incapable of handling any type of investigation. I feel like the pineapple is a key piece of evidence but no one saw it as that. the pineapple was her last meal and I think the mother gave her one last meal kind of like how death row does it. Somebody knows something, The person who knows something might be dead by now but somebody knew something that was in that house. Maybe even multiple people. People should’ve not entered that house and they absolutely should’ve not cleaned the kitchen. Terrible police work.

[@bethryan9077]

@@motorsportmoments Known Facts - Alarm set 5.30 a.m., the Ramseys were to get on a plane for Charlevoix. Patsy found the note, raced upstairs, found JB gone & screamed for John & could only say about a note & JB gone. He said “call the police”. It was pitch dark, no-one around & they were terrified. Patsy called the Whites & the Fernies for Help. John Fernie called their pastor for prayers & comfort. The cops called 2 victim’s advocates to come. 2 got in the kitchen door when the Ramseys went to the Whites for dinner. They had broken in before & that’s why they knew where everything was & exactly what they were going to do. About 1.30 a.m. JB was choked with the white cord & tasered on her back in bed, wrapped in 2 white blankets & carried to the boiler room. When the cord was quickly released she screamed, a neighbour heard that because of the vent in the boiler room that was at the front of the house. Fibres from the cord were found on JBs sheet & are in evidence. They ran out a side door, down to the back & waited under a pine tree then went back in. They had run into the metal ladder & it hit the cement as they ran out. That was the 'crash' noise the neighbour's husband heard. Fresh pine needles came off one of their jackets & were found in the cellar & are in evidence. She was given a lot of water in the early hours, tasered & vile acts occurred. That was not a garrotte it was a complex bondage device & made by the 17 year old who was into causing fear & used electricity. Both these factors & position & so much water is why there is so much pee staining on the front of both undergarments & near to the waistbands. The carpet & underlay were cut out due to the pee stain & are in evidence. The nylon cord was bought as it had to be a bit slippery for the purpose. The knots were intricate & specific then a certain number of ties on the wood & then the 3 loops. When that was done the rest of the cord was JB's exact height. The tip of the paintbrush was cut off, used at her privates & never found because some deviants keep trophies. That was not a paintbrush of Patsy’s. JB was given pineapple fruitcake earlier & at 5.30 a.m. She did not eat any pineapple that was in the bowl, that was part of the staging, one of many. ‘The Stomach contains a small amount (8-10cc) of viscous to green to tan coloured thick material of no particulate matter identified’. ‘The Proximal Portion (top) of the Small Intestine contains fragmented pieces of yellow to light green-tan apparent vegetable or fruit material which may represent fragments of pineapple’. Arndt was there & told the ME pineapple was in a bowl. It takes 2 hours for stomach contents to go to the top of the small intestine. In Patsy’s recorded statement June ’98, Thomas Haney told her the pineapple in the bowl was Different to the fragments in the top of the small Intestine. When Patsy called 911, JB was strangled to death in a rage on top of the dryer in the basement laundry. Cops coming meant no money. There was a phone in that laundry. The one piece of tape was put over her mouth to stop fluids getting on their clothes & she was carried to the cellar. Then 3 blows to the head, 3 weapons & each is in evidence. The 1st - a brick on the top of the head that caused the huge open fracture down the length of the skull. The 2nd - a utility knife & small stabs to the skull in a shape. The tool used was broken off & not found. The 3rd - was the end of the steel kid's ball bat & that caused the hole that the stabs started. They had planned if the cops were called. They didn't plan that Patsy would stay on the phone calling friends to come & help. That phone on the wall was in the alcove near to where they had to get out the basement door & then their exit door. Glenn Meyer was the author of the note & he organised it all for money with 3 from the house on the corner. One had a huge grudge against John in relation to a family business in Michigan. All was set up to incriminate all Ramseys if no cash was paid. Their back-up for money was the taking of photos. Many items were brought into the house & staged. Many items were taken from cupboards & drawers & staged all over the house, basement & a few things outside. Meyer was secretly living in the Barnhill's basement across the road. He got to know a great deal about the Ramseys. JB's dog was mostly kept there & the kids & Patsy were over there often. Patsy gave the Barnhills many cards, letters & notes in her print writing over the years. It is easy to copy print writing & he only had to do Some letters like hers as it was Supposed to look like she was trying to disguise hers, which is impossible to do for near 3 pages & the Real experts know that fact. From his vantage point Myer could see through both staircase windows & knew Patsy & John came down the back stairs each morning to make coffee. The note was spread out so all 3 pages would be seen, they wanted their money. The notepad was taken at the Xmas party on the 23rd. Meyer went over saying he was looking for the Barnhills worried about them ensuring he was let in. John took him to where they were sitting & he stayed. The Ramseys didn't even know who he was. JB was never to be taken from the basement. SBTC & Victory is about a plane. Joe Barnhill was a radial gunner in WW2 & flew on the SB2C, Two - T, so SBTC. That was a famous bomber plane & lauded for bringing the war to victory. Meyer had a poster of that plane on a wall in his room, Victory was on the side of the plane. There is a photo of Barnhill holding a framed picture of that plane. From the advanced forensics, the private investigators who never gave up & as happens with lots of crimes, people talk eventually & that’s why so much is now known Plus because the crime scene techs who did an excellent job & taking all the photos & videos & collecting all the DNA. The Ramseys never put one foot back in that house ever again from after JB was found & they left. The trauma was way too much, but if they Had been able to, this case would have been a Very different matter for all involved. The discoveries were everywhere if the family would have seen it all with very astute investigators. Thomas was only brought into the case 3 days after because the investigators present refused to target the Ramseys. He was an ex-narcotics officer who had Zero experience with Any murder before let alone a ransom, which was the first crime. He thought he would make a name for himself from this high profile crime. His partner was an auto-theft officer. The BPD spent their time covering up their total incompetence. They rarely had a murder & this was their first for '96. They refused help from the FBI & the CBI. They put about misinformation & leaked certain photos. That amount of money was near John's bonus for '95 & was paid to him in March '96. The amount was on his pay stubs each month of '96. The suitcase was already placed under the window & the window opened for the 2nd time after the cops left. Both done as subterfuge. Same with the fresh green leaves that were dumped at the grate & some 'caught' under it. Lou made a mistake about that window, that's all. It was never an entry point. Early that morning, 2 officers did not go in the train room door & so through to the windows & 2 failed to pull open that cellar door. There is soo much more to this case that the public don't know about. The type of air taser used has been identified. The burns on JBs back & face are from same taser. The 2nd point was under JB's ear. The burn on her face was bigger because the point was placed there more than once - control. Google the murder of Gerald Boggs ‘93 Colorado. His autopsy photo shows the Exact same burns on his face, the 2nd point was on his earlobe. Those tasers were widely used by drug dealers in the 90s. The big underpants JB was found in were put on her in the early hours. Patsy, her sister, their mother & JB went to New York Xmas shopping. Patsy bought her niece a pack of 7 underpants from Bloomingdales that were called Bloomies. They were size 12-14 & had the weekdays on the waistbands. Patsy also bought from there 2 special Barbie dolls for JB. One had her own pair of underpants also called Bloomies. JB begged her mother for the pack of 7 so she had some like her doll. Patsy gave in & they were put away for JB til she would fit into them, about 8 years away. They were put in the back of a drawer in JB's bathroom. When they got home JB went to see her dog at the Barnhills & told them about her special presents. Meyer was ever listening. JB was found in the ones that had Wednesday on the waistband. It was a Wednesday that year for Xmas Day. Access the photo of the paint tray on the carpet. Look to the left a bit at the tray & up a bit, you will see a drawing of a sinister smirking cat's face/head on the carpet, as on the note - fat cat. That was not a nightgown of JBs found in the cellar, it was a dress taken off her life-sized doll that was kept in the corner of her room, but found in the playroom standing at a window. That bowl (with pineapple) was used at the Xmas party on the 23rd & had the icing for the gingerbread houses that all the kids were given & they decorated themselves. That was a heavy bowl & that was icing not milk. There were No fingerprints on that bowl. That glass had a dried tea bag & no tea was made in that. That silver ladle in the bowl came from a cupboard near the spiral staircase & was from a boxed set of 2 that the Ramseys received as a wedding present & had never been opened. That was chosen & placed because of the filigree that was the same as the filigree on some of JB's crowns. The Ramseys were finally exonerated in 2008 due to All the evidence that showed someone was in the house, over 200 pieces of & the DNA cleared them plus lots of others then & since. It is 2021, all is known & 4 involved have been identified, 2 are dead. Justice is coming.

[@Powerbandm]

@@bethryan9077 your take of the intruder theory makes the most sense, out of any I have heard so far. One part I am confused about is the fat cat painting on the carpet. I looked up the picture and most of the available pictures on the internet show no cat on the carpet. One does show a painted cat however and it looks photoshopped. The quality of the background is the worst of all of the available photos which leads me to believe it’s not as reliable as the clear and concise police photos. I as well didn’t read about a cat painted on the carpet in the police report. (I know that the answer is shotty police work). To be fair to boulder police, this isn’t a type of case many people in smaller towns ever see. Certainly this is a baffling case that would probably had a much increased chance of being solved if the Ramseys didn’t call everyone and their brother to the house. Or if the police removed them all immediately after arrival. If the kidnappers claimed to be “monitoring” them and if they “speak to a dog” they will kill JonBenet. Why in the world would they be calling Fleet, Others, and the police. I would have called the police and explained the note and how it stated to not contact the police. Instead it turns into a massive gathering of people at the Ramsey house. People are all around the house, making food, coffee, etc, and contaminating the crime scene. You had mentioned 4 people are involved and two are dead? Are you willing to elaborate on that? Your explanation is one of the most detailed I have heard regarding the intruder theory as your theory has many details I haven’t been aware of. I have gone down the rabbit hole on this case. I will say I lean towards the parents doing it. I think the intruder theory is possible but it seems unlikely to me based on the research I have done. I believe if they indeed didn’t do it they at the very least knows who did and are protecting them. I don’t believe Burke was involved in the killing in the slightest. I think he knows what happened or has a really good idea, but wasn’t directly involved other than making statements that he was instructed to make by family. I like your explanation that the note was written the way it was to be used as a tool against the Ramseys in case the police were notified. That’s a new perspective for me to look at this from. It does make sense that to the Ramseys the note would seem legit because their daughter was missing and to the police it would seem like the Ramseys did it as JonBenet was dead in the house the whole time which doesn’t obviously doesn’t indicate a kidnapping. Since the ransom timeline was 24 hours and the body was in their house I think the kidnapper would have needed the motive for murder not money. Who is the 17 year old you speak of? Also I want to thank you for taking the time to write your response and I hope you don’t think I’m being a dick or trying to challenge you I am truly trying to see this from every angle possible!

[@bethryan9077]

@@Powerbandm Thank you for your reply. There are photos of Patsy's paint tray on different vids on Utube & the drawing of the cat's face/head can be seen on the carpet, but may be tricky to spot, maybe you can enhance it, bigger screen, But, find the cop's walk-thru video, there are a few different ones from that night & pause it when you see the paint tray on the carpet. Being the cop's walk-thru video, will firstly tell you that the photo of that & the cat's face, is not a fake photo. You have to look closely at the carpet, to the left of the paint tray & up a bit. Once you see the face, you won't 'unsee' it. lol. The shape of the head is a perfect circle, ears on the top too. I have a good idea what they used to trace around to be able to do that so well And on carpet, would be impossible to do a circle like that otherwise. I do have a quite a bit to say about certain police but for the most part, the investigators there that morning had no problems believing the Ramseys were genuine, Until JB was found in the house after 1 p.m., & the BPD went into damage control because Their cops should have found JB early that morning & to protect their own asses, they threw the family to the wolves & so, the BS began. I don't know why you say, the Ramseys called 'everyone & their brother to the house' though I certainly have read many people say similar. But, Brother? Anyway, it was before 6 a.m., pitch dark outside, no-one around & they were terrified. Who would know how long it might take for the cops to arrive. Patsy called the Whites, the Fernies & Mrs Stine for Help. Mrs Stine couldn't come. John Fernie later called their pastor for prayers & comfort, it was going to be a long wait, the note said Tomorrow. The cops called 2 victim's advocates to come. There were 6 cops & 2 detectives who arrived at various times that morning. Officer French was the 1st person in the door. Veitch arrived soon after. The cops let the friends in & had them sit in the sunroom & then they were between there & the den. One cop was taking photos, one was dusting for fingerprints. Except for Arndt, all cops gone by 10.30 a.m. Patsy only read to - 'we have your daughter' & raced upstairs to find JB gone & screamed for John. She could only say about a note & JB gone & he told her to call the cops. She was on the wall phone near the kitchen & John was on the floor reading it over & over then. So much Wrong information about this case that has been going around for 25 years & counting. There wasn't Any 'massive gathering of people' at all. The victim's advocates bought in bagels, I don't know about coffee. The kitchen was like that from the Ramseys big Xmas Day late breakfast. The housekeeper was due after they were to have left for the plane that morning of the 26th. People should yell at the cops, They were the ones everywhere, 'contaminating the crime scene'. Having said that, people watch too many made-up CSI shows. No-one went in JB's room & the detectives eventually cordoned off the room & John did what any normal person would do, took the tape off the child's mouth & then as any normal father would do, he raced upstairs with her, hoping she could be saved. Of the 2 who got in the house & they own the DNA - one was 17 at the time, came from Puerto Rico to the U.S. with his family when younger, when he's found there will be an announcement. The other one was 24, a white guy, he was seen crossing the Ramsey's yard at the back after the they left for the Whites. He committed suicide in 2020 after being questioned. These 2 left town within the week. Meyer died many years ago. He was in the basement for a short time taking photos in the early hours & left. A Camel cig butt is being tested now. The 4th one was never in the house so no DNA. He had the only car & was to get the cash from John. I know that y'all are used to soo many posting their theories, but that is not what I have done & that's why I started the narrative with Known Facts, that is just the basics. I left out the vile acts as a bit sensitive for the page but I have discussed with some people at other sites who also know more details about that. There is much more in general that also I post & about many other items that the perps put around the house. If you source the walk-thru vid, let me know, I will point out a few other things. It seems that few people know &/or never mention. that in 2003, Federal Court Judge Carne declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. And that was then, more evidence came to light as the investigation continued. I will explain the true facts about the DNA. From the 1st week of 1997 til 2008, the testing was done at 3 separate labs - unknown male DNA & Matching from - under JB's fingernails, saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants, touch DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns. The DNA has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI's national database only accepts qualified DNA. Further testing in 2016 with advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The public need to realise that this case has never been to court yet & in general, y'all don't know about all the evidence that had them proven innocent such a long time ago. Besides all the bs told & still, there are pages put on vids as if Patsy wrote word 'samples' & letters down columns that are the same as the note & as if these pages came from police files. Patsy did none of that & the pages are not from the police files, all of that is Fake. And the only unscrupulous people who have done that, for their benefit, are those who were out to find their version of fame & make Money from this high profile crime. What I said about the pineapple is from the Authentic autopsy report that can be found online. The 1st page has the symbol for Colorado & the phone number & address of the Boulder Coroner's office under that title. The full transcripts of their police interviews for '97, '98 & 2000 are at the Google site - Shakedown. The autopsy photos are online & they alone Prove what Steve Thomas & James Kolar & many others said in their books, is all BS. The photo of the skull shows the impact of the brick on the top of her head. In some of the crime scene photos of the cellar, the brick can be seen. The measurements Match. The photos also show the dig marks from JB's nails in her skin at the cord because she was fighting for her life when being strangled to death. She was Never unconscious. There were 2 severe fractures to her skull. One was down the length & Open & the other was a Hole. How do both of those fractures occur from bang against a bath Or a hit on the head from Any one weapon, Any weapon. It is a fact that if Either of the fractures occurred Before death, the skull would have been filed with blood, It Wasn't. From the position of the cord at the front of the neck & her gold necklace caught under the cord at the front, Proves JB was on her Back when strangled to death. The gold cross on her necklace was turned to the back. There was a double knot in the cord at the back of the neck. In that Real autopsy report is stated about the rust marks at both temples & on the calf of one leg. The rusty log grabber is in crime scene photos of the cellar. The abrasions at the base of the neck are from the cord being tightened loosened & tightened ages before her death. This is Another problem for the general public, who don't even Know what happened to the poor child. It boggles My mind why people Think those parents would break, cut & whittle a paintbrush & insert the tip into their daughter's vagina & cause bleeding & Why wipe the blood off. Just a few 'aspects' that most of the public Also don't know about. Who would Write a ransom note & on their Own notepad & with their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For the Cops? That was the first red flag that told the Real investigators that the Ramseys were not involved. The BPD took the note to the Secret Service & they also hired 2 private renowned experts, all 4 said No Ramsey wrote that note. Burke was interviewed that afternoon by detective Patterson when still at the Whites, neither parent was present. The Ramseys gave the cops free reign to their house from the minute officer French walked in the door because they had Nothing to hide. They spoke to the cops & the detectives for hours in total, that morning & afternoon & 2 Ds spoke to John again that night, Patsy was bedridden by then. They had already witnessed how inept the cops Were & John hired a private investigator straight away. They were to find out other info about the cops & John went on to hire another 3 private investigators. They went broke trying to find out who murdered their precious daughter & at the same time, hoped to save another. Because that's the sort of people that they Really Were. I don't know what statements you are referring to, made by Burke. The motive was quick cash & revenge if the cops were called & the blows to the head was overkill & pre-planned also, that's why those severe fractures were precise. The taking of photos was their back-up for money if cops were called. I appreciate you're interest & I don't think you're a dick at all. I just burst out laughing at you saying that, thanks heaps, I needed a laugh. I have watched Lots of the vids, old & new & I did 'get' eventually, why soo many say what they do. I still get frustrated with Lots of people because I know the truth, that's all.

[@sespringstead24]

@@bethryan9077 your explanation is outstanding. This case happened when I was around 10 years old and the media was baffled then and still now. Even though all the Ramsey’s were acquitted of all DNA findings… it’s silly. The one thing my mother said to me young was if the parents didn’t know who did it then someone close to them did. We both ruled out business partners that had something personal with the family. But that’s neither here nor there. My biggest issue to this day with this case and the Maddie Mccan case is the botching crime scenes from the beginning. This one at least had more evidence to go on.

[@MsDisneylandlover]

The song speaks volumes ❤

[@user-si5do5vt2o]

I love this song at the beginning. Can you pls tell me the name an who sings it. Thks

[@cks57youto53]

Jon Bennet an her mom live in eternal peace !!!

[@suzybearheart530]

I was an extra in this when I was nineteen. During the scene at 2:34:18 they filmed at University of Utah, and I was a jogger in the background. I had to run around a corner and up a hill. We did that take over and over and over and my legs were so sore the next day. Plus, it was freezing haha. But it was fun.

[@vickijohnson9704]

I don't know that having "fun" should be mentioned considering a child was murdered.

[@mrs.g7795]

Thats cool

[@linusgrant1172]

They didn't rush to give their testimonies, but rushed to bury their little girl while the autopsy was still going on, which just make one feel that they just didn't want to help with the investigation at all.

[@nbenefiel]

You can’t bury someone until the autopsy is finished. The medical examiner still had the body.

[@nbenefiel]

The Ramseys gave over 100 pieces of their private lives to the Boulder PD, things like DNA samples, handwriting samples, records, credit card statements, phone records, even pubic hair samples. The cooperated freely with the Boulder PD until pigs like Steve Thomas started leaking lies to the press. At that point, they began to hire their own experts to search for their daughter’s killer.

[@bibilopez849]

Imagine if Patsy kept the house as clean as it appears in this short film. What mother puts her sleeping child to bed without clearing the bed and getting her ready to sleep comfortably. JonBenet never went to bed and the bow in her head proves it.

[@bethryan9077]

JB's feet didn't Reach down to the bottom, maybe the few items helped keep her blanket in place. She was sound asleep, no mother would try to wrench hair bands from the back of the child's head. BTW - what part of the house was not clean?

[@bethryan9077]

The BPD took the note to the Secret Service & they also hired 2 Renowned private experts, all 4 said No Ramsey wrote the note. **From the 1st week of 1997 til 2008, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under JB’s fingernails - unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but Never tested. Steve Thomas constantly talked about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury was to convene that more DNA tests were ordered. The blood was JBs & Same unknown male DNA - saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. The BPD & Steve Thomas, who had Never worked a murder case Before, were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD, whose officers Should have found JB early that morning though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they Failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. The broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point. Only America & one other country still has a stupid grand jury system. It is unfair, unjust & doesn't work. The jurors only hear from the prosecution, who get to pick & choose what evidence is presented & which witnesses appear. There is no judge, no defence lawyers & No experts to rebut Whatever is presented. As a consequence, the jury vote on the side of the prosecution 98.6% of the time. And Steve Thomas withheld a great deal of vital evidence. The vote was never for murder. Unlike the jury, the general public & the media, the DA Saw all the evidence known about at that time as did Lou Smit, one of the best investigators in the country. The DNA alone Proved just how Wrong the jury Were. Steve Thomas illegally took evidence material from the BPD & resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, that was the precursor for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That also. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his Story. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent. The investigation Continued along with a bevy of private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another. What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on national TV & for Years? NONE. The Ramseys continued that til Patsy died in 2006 & John continued the same & does to this day. Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolfe vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carne got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carne declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his integrity as a police officer & all his BS in that book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He did That to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carne was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with writing ‘samples’ As If Patsy’s, it’s all Fake. The public have Never seen Patsy’s writing. The Ramseys & Loads of others. who included known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA a Long time ago. The DNA from that unknown male was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - Same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & the outside there. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of Plus the DNA from the unknown male, that had also cleared John Mark Karr who said he did it. Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the Whites Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push This vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the BS continues. N.B. Who would Write a ransom note on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The Cops? There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That! The public need to understand that this case hasn’t been to Trial yet & so - You Know Nothing About This Crime, The Case Or About What Was Actually Perpetrated Upon This Poor Child. BTW - Burke, Was Never Even A Suspect. The Bits You Think You Know About this Crime - Are NOT True. *You all need to get this Very Clear - You Do Not Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years have Also stated that the Ramseys - Are Innocent. It’s 2022 & All is now Known - the 4 involved have been identified, 2 are dead, the BPD are holding things up. The BPD have issued a statement via the media -on the 1st May, 2022.

[@bethryan9077]

The Ramseys were Officially Exonerated a Long time ago with a mountain of Actual Evidence & by Real experts, including Forensic Scientists. Just because you don’t Know about that evidence, does Not Mean that it doesn’t exist. The DNA from an unknown male has been in CODIS since 2003. Give the FBI a call. Clearly you people need to Learn what DNA is About. You have been watching TV for over 25 Years & you Choose to believe it All, as long as it’s Against - the Ramseys. You don’t care which one, Or, you decide on all 3. Yet, you don’t even know about ANY Actual Evidence. Shame on every one of You. This case - Has Never Been To Trial & so, You have Never Seen the Case Evidence. What sort of people say all they do about this Very Kind family, when you have Never even Seen Any of the Evidence about the Crime? Loads of you even Demean this murdered little girl also & since 2016, her 9 year old brother too, because of a Bogus TV ‘show’ that was put out by a pack of Con Artists. Burke was Never even a suspect & was interviewed That afternoon when he was still at the Whites by detective Patterson, Neither parent was present, Nor did they know that was happening. Patterson spoke Publicly after that BS ‘show’ & said Burke knew Nothing & was Very worried that his sister was still missing. None of you even Know what was Actually perpetrated upon JonBenet, nor do you Care to Find Out, because you’re all too busy spouting all your hateful Garbage about a case that You Know Nothing About & At a fine Upstanding family who Didn’t Do A Damn Thing & who, In Fact, were Victims.. Soo many down the threads, all sites, are an Absolute Disgrace & that’s just another True Fact. Soo many people say 'it doesn't add up'. But soo many people, Don't Know Any True Facts about - Anything & so, you are Not in the position to say - that it doesn't add up. You saw a few photos & think you know it all - pineapple in a bowl, flashlight on a bench, cord on a stick, writing on some pages - thank goodness you didn’t get to see More photos. LOL. All Ramseys were Proven Innocent with a mountain of Actual evidence & eventually by a bunch of Seasoned Experts, including Forensic Scientists. All those under the umbrella of Law Enforcement who Saw 'Facts In Evidence' which Included the autopsy photos, the photo of the skull & the Authentic autopsy report. . . Until this case is brought to trial for criminal proceedings, the general public will Never get to know the True Facts about this case. Unless you start some Actual Research online, but that takes a whole lot of hard slog & one needs some experience just to tell the difference between a fake document & an authentic one. The vids are Still full of False & Misleading information whether old TV programmes or new Utube 'shows' & both show Fake pages put up on the screen As If from police files, the Same False & misleading information in soo many books. All of this BS has been going around for Over 25 years & counting. People need to wake up to themselves. Obviously too many in the public domain believe all that they read in trashy magazines too

[@bethryan9077]

BTW - the last photo taken of JB was when they were at the White's Xmas dinner party. That photo shows how her hair was - the sides & top pulled back & like a small ponytail at the back, a blue hair band held that in place & a colourful bow scrunchie. The perps left her hair like that & got another blue hair band & another scrunchie & pulled all her hair up together so no hair was hanging down & so, off of her neck. The autopsy photos show abrasions at the base of her neck - from vile acts with the cord of that bondage device being tightened loosened & tightened. The public have No Idea about what was Actually perpetrated upon this poor child.

[@nbenefiel]

The photos show the bed was slept in, not wet, and the sheets were not changed.JonBenet fell asleep in the car. John carried her upstairs. Patsy put her into her night clothes. She didn’t wake up.

[@equalityforall4175]

I am always suspicious of people that don't take a polygraphs.

[@nbenefiel]

The Ramseys passed polygraphs.

[@redpillfreedom6692]

They're useless. There's a reason they aren't permissable in court.

[@nbenefiel]

Both Patsy and John took two polygraph tests each and both of them passed.

[@elainespoetry1]

The thing with movies like this is people watching believe everything seen is true, when a lot of the evidence isn’t!

[@mikasa8382]

What I think happened is Burke did it and the parents covered it up. Let me explain So we know the Burke and Johnbenet are siblings and they had a little siblings fighting on and off thing… siblings fight right? Well the Ramseys SAY they brought her up to bed and she didn’t wake up. I don’t think so. I think that burke wanted to open one of his presents and he wanted a snack too which was Pineapple. And remember, during Johnbenets autopsy it was found that she had Undigested pineapple right? So back to Burke. He wanted a little snack so he got pinapple and you know Johnbenet being the Pesty little sister that she is, went and grabbed a piece of pineapple out of burkes bowel and put it in her mouth and ran away. Then I think Burke lost it and grabbed a flashlight and hit Johnbenet over the head with it. I don’t think that Burke wanted to kill his sister but if do think he tried to stop her but he didn’t know that would hurt her. Then I think later that night Johnbenet went upstairs to her bedroom and after she got hit in the head, she went into a coma. And pasty and John thought she was dead and panicked. They wanted to protect Burke because they thought he would be taken away so they thought “ we already lost one child, let’s protect this one.” I think all of this happened so fast and they didn’t think it through. So I think John and pasty staged it and pasty wrote the ransom note. And I also find it odd that they left Burke “ Asleep” while his sister was “ missing” because if my child was missing there is no way I would let my other child stay sleeping! And the whole pineapple situation is why Johnbenet had Undigested pineapple. The neighbor next door from the Ramseys said she heard a little child’s scream around 12 or 1 in the morning. She heard it through the vent from the basement where Johnbenet body was found. Now I don’t think Johnbenet died from being hit in the head but it definitely Damaged her but i do think she died from being strangled. The parents thought she was dead so they didn’t know that this would actually end up killing her. I think after that they just panicked and so she called the police and at the end of the police call you can hear a little kids voice is the back which sounds like Burke. So I think Patsy told Burke to stay asleep or fake it. Look, I’m not saying this actually happened. I am saying I’m my opinion and what I think really happened that night. I mean no disrespect to anyone at all. I just wish justice for this little girl would have come sooner for her beautiful soul.

[@bethryan9077]

The BPD took the note to the Secret Service & they also hired 2 Renowned private experts, all 4 said No Ramsey wrote the note. The Ramsey’s attorneys also hired 2 of the best in the country & both said the same. **From the 1st week of 1997 til 2007, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under JB’s fingernails - unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas & his cronies kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months. The same Steve Thomas who later went on to Pretend that he was lead detective & he still does. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but Never tested. Steve Thomas constantly talked about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury was to convene that more DNA tests were ordered. The blood was JBs & Same unknown male DNA - saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. The BPD were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD, whose officers Should have found JB early that morning though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they Failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. The broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point. Only America & one other country still has a stupid grand jury system. It is unfair, unjust & doesn't work. The jurors only hear from the prosecution, who get to pick & choose what evidence is presented & which witnesses appear. There is no judge, no defence lawyers & unless subpoenaed by the prosecution - No experts to rebut Whatever is presented. As a consequence, the jury vote on the side of the prosecution 98.6% of the time. And the BPD withheld a great deal of vital evidence. The vote was never for murder. John & Patsy never received subpoenas to appear & so they were prevented from testifying. They wrote to Governor Owens about this & he didn’t even reply. Unlike the jury, the general public & the media, the DA Saw all the evidence known about at that time as did Lou Smit, one of the best investigators in the country. Less than half the States, still have this abysmal grand jury system. The DNA alone Proved just how Wrong the jury Were. The investigators Present refused to target the Ramseys but Unfortunately Steve Thomas was brought into the case 3 days later & his goal was to make a name for himself. 18 months later he illegally took evidence material from the BPD & resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, that was the precursor for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That also. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his Story. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent of the hundreds of thousands of dollars he made from that book. The investigation Continued along with a bevy of private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another. What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on national TV & for Years? NONE. The Ramseys continued that til Patsy died in 2006 & John continued the same & does to this day. Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolfe vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carne got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carne declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his integrity as a police officer & all his BS in that book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He did That to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carne was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with writing ‘samples’ As If Patsy’s, it’s all Fake. The public have Never seen Patsy’s writing. The Ramseys & Loads of others. who included known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA a Long time ago. The DNA from that unknown male was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - Same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & the outside there. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of Plus the DNA from the unknown male, that had also cleared John Mark Karr who said he did it. Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the White’s Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push This vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the BS continues. James Kolar was in the office of the DA, Mary Lacy, for a very short time & was Fired. He also ran off to write His book of BS & blamed Burke because he needed new fodder. His ‘Story’ was so ludicrous, no publisher would touch it. He had to pay to self-publish & to very poor sales. He was & still is, just Another con artist & Proven Liar. Then CBS heard the sound of Kerching. N.B. Who would Write a ransom note on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The Cops? There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That! Mark Beckner eventually found some integrity & publicly stated “when the owner of the DNA is found, there’s your killer”. The public need to understand that this case hasn’t been to Trial yet & so - You Know Nothing True About This Crime, The Case Or About What Was Actually Perpetrated Upon This Poor Child. BTW - Burke, Was Never Even A Suspect. The bits you Think You Know about this crime - Are NOT True. *You all need to get this Very Clear - You Do Not Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years have Also stated that the Ramseys - Are Innocent. **The BPD have issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022.

[@bethryan9077]

Why don't you just be Honest & say that you watched that CBS show & believed it all. The Ramseys were Proven Innocent a Long time ago, it's way over time to leave them In Peace.

[@mikasa8382]

No I watched Christie Lukasiak if you really wanna know And if everyone else is stating there theories then I’m gonna state mine too. I don’t care if it was 26 years ago I still have my Theories.

[@bethryan9077]

@@mikasa8382 She is nothing but an absolute moron who doesn't even know what Year this crime happened. She spouts the same old BS from that Bogus CBS show whilst showing Steve Thomas' book of BS on screen. I am very well aware that loads of people post their theories, I tell the True Facts about this case. The Ramseys were all Proven Innocent with a mountain of Actual evidence & by a bunch of Actual experts, who included Forensic Scientists. You kids need to stick to your one hour made up TV shows, that tell ya the ending.

[@ferrero_rocher_]

If their son did it they would call emergency right away, and it would be considered accidental

[@omayragonzalez3602]

Beautiful angel 💖

[@schantalchurch9024]

It is sad how so many good people have gone bad as if the world doesnt have enough to worry about.Reap what you have sown and im talking about those who do not deserve this type of treatment. You shall inherit the earth whats left of it.

[@roslynaubrey7766]

Lou Smit’s version sound so ludicrous it’s hard to believe he believed it himself!

[@GadsdenHomie1776]

rip Jon benet. I believe her family is guilty. This had to be an inside job. Smh... I DO NOT understand WHY the cops didn't immediately move the family to a secure place and have their house "roped" off as a crime scene! Also, why did they allow that many people to enter a homicide scene???

[@bethryan9077]

Known Facts - It was about 5.45 a.m. & the Ramseys were to get on a plane for Charlevoix. Patsy read very little of the first part of the note & raced upstairs to see JB was gone from her bed & she screamed for John, he told her to call the cops. John went down & read the note quickly as Patsy was calling 911. Patsy called the Whites & the Fernies for help. John Fernie called their pastor for prayers. The cops called 2 victim’s advocates. Officer French arrived first. 2 got in the kitchen door when the Ramseys went to the Whites for dinner. They had broken in before & is why they knew where everything was, where to go & exactly what they were going to do. At about 1.30 a.m. JB was choked with the white nylon cord & tasered on her back in her bed, wrapped in 2 white blankets & carried to the boiler room. When the cord was quickly released she screamed. Fibres from the cord were found on her sheet & are in evidence. They ran out a side door, down to the back & waited under a pine tree then went back in. They had run into the metal ladder & it hit the cement as they ran out. That was the 'crash' noise the neighbour's husband heard. Fresh pine needles came off one of their jackets & were found in the cellar & are in evidence. She was given a lot of water in the early hours & tasered & tortured near that boiler room. That was not a garrotte it was a complex bondage device & made by the 17 year old who was into causing fear & using electricity. Both these factors & position is why there is such large pee staining on the front of both undergarments & near to the waistbands. The carpet & underlay were cut out due to the pee stain & are in evidence. The nylon cord was bought as it had to be a bit slippery for the purpose. The knots were intricate & specific then a certain number of ties on the wood & then the 3 loops. When that was done the rest of the cord was JB's exact height. The tip of the paintbrush was cut off & never found. That was not a paintbrush of Patsy’s. JB was given pineapple fruitcake earlier & at 5.30 a.m. She did not eat any of that pineapple that was in the bowl, that was part of the staging, one of many. ‘The stomach contains a small amount (8-10cc) of viscous to green to tan coloured thick material of no particulate matter identified’. ‘The Proximal Portion (Top) of the Small Intestine contains fragmented pieces of yellow to light green-tan apparent vegetable or fruit material which may represent fragments of pineapple’. Arndt was there & told him chunks of pineapple were in a bowl. It takes 2 hours for stomach contents to go to the top of the intestine. In Patsy’s recorded statement June ’98, Thomas Haney told her the pineapple in the bowl was Different to the bits in the Intestine. When Patsy called 911, JB was strangled to death in a rage on top of the dryer in the basement laundry. Cops coming meant no money. There was a phone in that laundry. The one piece of tape was put over her mouth to stop fluids getting on their clothes & she was carried to the cellar. Then 3 blows to the head, 3 weapons & each is in evidence. The 1st was a brick on the top of the head & that caused the huge fracture. The 2nd was a utility knife & small stabs to the skull in a shape. The tool used was broken off & not found. The 3rd was the end of the steel kid's ball bat & that caused the hole that the stabs started. They had planned if the cops were called. They didn't plan that Patsy would stay on the phone calling friends to come & help. That phone on the wall was in the alcove near to where they had to get out the basement door & then their exit door. Glenn Meyer was the author of the note & he organised it all for money with 3 from the house on the corner. One had a huge grudge against John in relation to a family business in Michigan. All was set up to incriminate all Ramseys if no money was paid. Their back-up was the taking of photos. Many items were brought into the house & staged. Many items were taken from cupboards & drawers & staged all over the house, basement & a few things outside. Meyer was secretly living in the Barnhill's basement across the road. He got to know a great deal about the Ramseys. JB's dog was mostly kept there & the kids & Patsy were over there often. Patsy gave the Barnhills many cards, letters & notes in her print writing over the years. It is easy to copy print writing & he only had to do Some letters like hers as it was Supposed to look like she was trying to disguise hers, which is impossible to do btw. From his vantage point Myer could see through both staircase windows & knew Patsy & John came down the back stairs each morning to make coffee. The note was spread out so all 3 pages would be seen, they wanted their money. The notepad was taken at the Xmas party on the 23rd. Meyer went over saying he was looking for the Barnhills worried about them ensuring he was let in. John took him to where they were sitting & he stayed. The Ramseys didn't even know who he was. JB was never to be taken from the house they had nowhere to operate. The SBTC & Victory is about a plane. Joe Barnhill was a radial gunner in WW2 & flew on the SB2C, Two - T, so SBTC. That was a famous bomber plane & lauded for bringing the war to victory. Meyer had a poster of that plane on a wall in his room, Victory was on the side of the plane. There is a photo of Barnhill holding a framed picture of that plane. From the advanced forensics, the private investigators who never gave up & as happens with lots of crimes, people talk eventually & is why so much is now known Plus because the crime scene techs did an excellent job in taking all the photos & the videos & collecting all the DNA. The Ramseys never put one foot back in that house ever again from after JB was found & they left. The trauma was way too much, but if they Had been able to, this case would have been a Very different matter for all involved. The discoveries were everywhere if the family would have seen it all with very astute investigators. Thomas was only brought into the case 4 days after because the investigators present refused to target the Ramseys. He was an ex-narcotics officer who had Zero experience with Any murder before let alone a ransom, which was the first crime. He thought he would make a name for himself from this high profile crime. His partner was an auto-theft officer. The BPD spent their time covering up their total incompetence. They rarely had a murder & that was the first for '96. They refused help from the FBI & the CBI. They put about misinformation & leaked certain photos. That amount of $118,000 was near John's bonus for '95 & was paid to him in March '96. The amount was on his pay stubs each month of '96. The suitcase was already placed under the window & the window was opened after the cops left. Both done as subterfuge. Same with the fresh green leaves that were dumped at the grate & some 'caught' under it. Lou made a mistake about that window, that's all. It was never an entry or exit point. Early that morning, more than one officer did not go in the train room & 2 failed to pull open that cellar door. There is soo much more to this case that the public don't know about. The type of air taser used has been identified. The burns on JBs back & face are from same taser. The 2nd point was under JB's ear. The burn on her face was bigger because the point was placed there more than once - control. Google the murder of Gerald Boggs 1993 Colorado. His autopsy photo shows the Exact same burns on his face, the 2nd point was on his earlobe. Those tasers were widely used by drug dealers in the 90s. The big underpants JB was found in were put on her in the early hours. Patsy, her sister, their mother & JB went to New York Xmas shopping. Patsy bought her niece a pack of 7 underpants from Bloomingdales that were called Bloomies. They were size 12-14 & had the weekdays on the waistbands. Patsy also bought from there 2 special Barbie dolls for JB. One had her own pair of underpants also called Bloomies. JB begged her mother for the pack of 7 so she had some like her doll. Patsy gave in & they were put away for JB til she would fit into them, about 8 years away. They were put in the back of a drawer in JB's bathroom. When they got home JB went to see her dog at the Barnhills & told them about her special presents. Meyer was ever listening. JB was found in the ones that had Wednesday on the waistband. It was a Wednesday that year for Xmas Day. Access the photo of the paint tray on the carpet. Look to the left a bit at the tray & up a bit, you will see a drawing of a sinister smirking cat's face/head on the carpet, as on the note - fat cat. That was not a nightgown of JBs found in the cellar, it was a dress taken off her life-sized doll that was kept in the corner of her room, but found in the playroom standing at a window, unclothed. That bowl (with big chunks of pineapple) was used at the Xmas party on the 23rd & had the icing for the gingerbread houses that all the kids were given & they decorated themselves. That was a heavy bowl & that was icing not milk. There were No fingerprints on that bowl. That glass had a dried tea bag & no tea was made in that. That silver ladle in the bowl came from a cupboard near the spiral staircase & was from a boxed set of 2 that the Ramseys received as a wedding present & had never been opened. That was chosen & placed because of the filigree that was the same as the filigree on many of JB's crowns. The Ramseys were finally exonerated in 2008 due to All the evidence that showed someone was in the house & the DNA cleared them plus lots of others then & since. It is 2021, all is known & 4 involved have been identified, 2 are dead, the BPD are holding things up.

[@princesskayla1400]

@@bethryan9077 shut up.

[@cathylittleton7361]

@ beth Ryan why are u REPEATING WHAT THEY ARE SAYING IN THE MOVIE ITS FRUSTRATING

[@bethryan9077]

@@princesskayla1400 LOL. Obviously you're just another hateful person who can't Handle The Truth.

[@bethryan9077]

@@cathylittleton7361 I HAVEN'T REPEATED WHAT IS SAID IN THE MOVIE. I PUT DOWN THE BASICS TRUE FACTS ABOUT THIS CASE

[@Lisa-MarieG]

Such a fantastic film!!

[@seanohare5488]

Interesting mostly objective

[@rebeccacrossman3867]

scary to think she would be my age if she were alive today. R.I.P

[@2ndlifeseekers282]

Idiot

[@PaulineBruce-vq6cf]

The Christmas Bonus Jon Got Was The Amount On The Ransom Note!!! Weird and Strange, And The Hand Analysis People Said It Was Patsy's Hand Writing!!! GUILTY And The Man Who Went With Jon Looking For Jon Benet, Said It Was So Dark, That You Would Have To Know Exactly Where She Was At!!! The Parents and Berke Knew Exactly What Happened;!!!! RED FLAGS 🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩

[@nbenefiel]

The check stub was sitting out on John’s desk and the 6 handwriting experts hired by the Boulder police and John Ramsey all agreed that Patsy did not write the note. Those 6 were the only people with access to the original note and Patsy’s examples.

[@nbenefiel]

BTW, his name is Burke.

[@nbenefiel]

There were 6 handwriting experts who had access to the original ransom note and actual samples of Patsy ‘s handwriting. Apparently, working with the originals is imperative to accuracy and admissibility to court. Four were hired by the Boulder PD, two by the Ramseys. All six concurred, in sworn depositions, that there was a 90 to 99% likelihood that Patsy did not write the note. No other graphologists have had access to the originals. I assume you got your information via Cina Wong. She offered to Patsy, to say that Patsy did not write the ransom note, without even seeing either the note or Patsy’s writing. After Patsy turned her down, Ms Wong changed her tune and was hired by Chris Wolf to testify in his civil case against the Ramseys. Her testimony was not permitted in court because Patsy had kept her original offer and she totally lacked any kind of forensic handwriting analysis training. Ever since, like others somewhat connected to this tragedy, she has gone around peddling her lies to anyone who will pay her. The Ramsey’s housekeeper has been doing much the same thing.

[@nbenefiel]

The check stub of Jon’s Christmas bonus was sitting out on his desk. Anyone in the house could have seen it. What kidnapper asks for a measly $118,000? John was a multimillionaire. He would easily have shelled out half a million or more. This $118,000 was just one of several attempts to shift blame to the Ramseys. The handwriting experts found over 200 points of difference between Patsy’s writing and the ransom note. They also said that the note was an inept attempt to copy Patsy’s writing.

[@bonniescott6470]

THE PARENTS KNOW WHAT HAPPEND TO THAT POOR GIRL

[@seanohare5488]

Definitely

[@bethryan9077]

@@seanohare5488 Yeah in the blighted eyes of all you victim annihilators, John & Patsy must have come across as dumb & dumber hey & obviously both being Dumbos, they dropped a trail of breadcrumbs that led straight to Themselves & also according to your ever so proud Cult of Ramsey Bashers, apparently being absolute Imbeciles, they must have had No Idea that Colorado had the Death Penalty. FYI - there are a gross number of adults & kids who are murdered in the home when the occupants are there sleeping. Most of those homes are Not a newly renovated 4 level huge mansion from the 1920s with the former coal cellar still in situ underground & so, No Window. There are a gross number of those murderers who have Never been Caught. Only JonBenet’s family are treated so Despicably, by a monstrous number of people in the public domain - being mostly U.S. citizens, Of Course. None of you have Read ANY Case Evidence, you’ve just watched TV & picked out the bits that Suit your personality type & then bang on with a load of garbage about a crime that you know Nothing about & do your best to constantly denigrate these very kind people who you Never KNEW. Nobody can state One case with the same circumstances of a murdered child, including where the Parents are such as These parents & wealthy to boot as well. I’ll wait for you to Name that household. Whilst you’re thinking about that, Include the scenario where the parents & kid brother have been drawn & quartered by all you now Criminal Geniuses & Incessantly for over 26 Years, without even any Respect for the murdered Child. THIS family were Proven Innocent a long, Long time ago - these Victims who had to suffer in silence & even More So due to certain members of the Boulder PD who got great Enjoyment from deliberately leaking false & misleading information to the media, for no other reason than to save their own Incompetent asses. You should all be Ashamed of yourselves, the rest of the world Sure IS. Only absolute Morons would believe that someone would Handwrite a particularly violent ransom note yet first stop to think up 5 quotes from 5 violent movies about kidnapping scenarios & go on to do all that using their Own notepad paper plus their Own marker & Then leave both of those items near their phone For The COPS!. Steve Thomas started all this Abysmal fiasco against this whole family by blaming JB’s mother. He was in Fact nothing but a Useless adversary with Plans to cash in from the very Beginning. He tried Very hard to pave his way in gold, he Failed at that also. Many followed his lead by playing the Paid Piper game & so, the same shit from soo many ugly mouth victim bashers is Still hitting the fan on fooltube.

[@bethryan9077]

Three so-called detectives put their mugs on TV trying to make Money from this high profile crime. All 3 had Never worked a murder case before, Ever & so, had never Solved one. Steve Thomas made up a story about Patsy with Zero evidence to back his mouth. Linda Arndt implied a story about John with Zero evidence to back her mouth. James Kolar made up a story about Burke with Zero evidence to back his mouth & that further demented crap was turned into a Bogus documentary put out by CBS in 2016 & you all lapped it up like panting puppies. That show started the never ending Garbage about the 9 year old Kid that continues unabated to this day yet CBS & each of the Con Artist Paid Pipers were mightily Sued for their 'gross misleading of the public'. Just another Fact that you cold hearted Neanderthals choose to Ignore. You TV consumptive morons believe All of the 'theories' because you're also, not very bright & all your hooha about Nothing burgers just makes you all Pathetic. And it’s Not the victim’s fault that y’all believe the Fake writing ‘samples’ as If Patsy did that & as If from the police files. Even Steve Thomas wasn’t Game to include that shit Or, didn’t think of doing that at the time. LOL. *The Ramseys were Proven Innocent a Long time ago with a mountain of Actual evidence that Showed someone Was in that house. Just because You & your like don't know about that evidence, does Not Mean that it doesn't exist.* There was/Is over 200 pieces of Actual evidence which includes DNA from both perps, several places on JB's person. The saliva from one has been in CODIS since 2003. The Ramseys were & Still Are a fine Upstanding family & all were exonerated due to those under the umbrella of Law Enforcement who actually Dealt with something called Case Evidence. Those people with something called Integrity included expert Seasoned homicide investigators who had to be brought into the case, expert Crime Scene techs & expert DNA & forensic Scientists. You’re a Nobody, get that STRAIGHT. You disgusting people don’t even Care to find out what Actually happened to this poor little girl. Attacking every member of her family is your national Sport. You watch some TV shows with the same old False information & you live in your Delusions that you know everything. Yawn. Yeah, for all you Victim abusers John & Patsy must have come across as dumb & dumber hey & obviously both being So dumb, they dropped a trail of breadcrumbs that led straight to Themselves because according to all you Ramsey bashers, apparently they were such absolute Imbeciles, they also had No Idea that Colorado had the Death Penalty. FYI - there are a gross number of people who are murdered in the home when other people are there sleeping. Most of those homes are Not a newly renovated 4 level huge mansion from the 1920s, coal cellar still in situ, no window. You certainly will Never work out Why I specifically stated, ‘no window’. There are a gross number of those killers who have Never been Caught. Only JB’s family are Treated so Despicably, by a monstrous number of people in the public domain - being mostly U.S. citizens, Of Course. None of you have read ANY of the case evidence, you’ve just watched TV videos & picked out the bits that Suit Your Character. You instantly believed the Fake pages of writing ‘samples’ put on your screen. Yawn. From the photos of the front area, most of you believe that they lived in an average double story home with a small basement. LOL. Obviously none of you have ever heard of a Planned crime set up to Frame others. Nobody can state One case with the same circumstances of a murdered child, including where the Parents are such as These parents & wealthy to boot as well. I’ll wait for you to Name that household. Whilst you’re thinking about that, Include the scenario where the parents & kid brother have been drawn & quartered by all you Criminal Geniuses for over 27 Years & without even Any mercy for their tortured then murdered Child. THIS family were rightly Proven innocent - these Victims who suffered in silence because they couldn't Tell anything as the case has never been to Trial. They suffered even More So due to the ever deceitful keystone Cops who worked Only to cover up their ongoing Incompetence & so the dumb as dog doo media entities on leashes, were Allowed to spread the never ending BS. Then there’s all those like You repeating the same old same old False information like dopey Puppets on a string. *And now the endless number of Mindless squawkers putting up their utube shitshows who have No Idea about a Damn Thing either let alone anything True.* You should all have a Really good look at Yourselves in the Mirror, the rest of the world sure Is. It’s way over time to leave this family In Peace. Here's the thing lovey, the intelligent Normal people within society who know full well that the Ramseys are Innocent, don't watch the never ending full of False information shitshows still blaming the Ramseys & so, you Ramsey bashers don't see Their opinions in the comment sections. And so, people like You presume everyone is a hate-filled numpty like yourself & at the same time you & your like are also chock-a-block full of unwarranted Arrogance in the belief that y’all are right. Yawn. * Now deary, you people need to understand that producers of TV shows Edit interviews to suit their Agendas & then there's the Time factor for whatever show, whether a 15 minute segment or half hour, not many were an hour. And now, the never ending utube channel operators with Their agendas, who do the Same. The time factor also means that the Ramseys couldn't tell everything that they Wanted to say because lovey, there are only so many seconds in a minute. Half the time you can't Follow what their talking about anyway, because 99% of you know Nothing about the case so you Fail to Comprehend the conversations plus the sequence of events. Due to the fact that Ramsey bashers have just believed All the BS that's been told for over 27 years, according to y'all, everything they say is lies. All highly ignorant Ramsey bashers need to get this Very Clear - You Do NOT Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or Federal Court Judge Carne or John Douglas or Lou Smit or Ollie Grey OR the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years & to this day Also state that the Ramseys - ARE Innocent.* The Boulder PD issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022. Go find that online & read it Slowly. Last December a cold case team were put together by the Colorado Bureau of Investigation & they’re on the job. The DNA from one of the unknown male intruders was mixed in with one spot of JB's blood in the big underpants that he & his cohort put on her his Saliva has been in CODIS since 2003. That DNA did Match the DNA from under JB's pinkie fingernails & the DNA from 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, inside & outside there, being pulled up/down. As of the results in 2016 with advanced forensics - the 2nd unknown male's DNA, also on the long-johns & he is hispanic. The cold case team also have the go-ahead to have both perps’ DNA reanalysed with the advanced technology & can have untested evidence items from the BPD’s dungeon, to be analysed with same. The FBI are involved with this investigation, finally. One can only hope that this cold case team will have Integrity. And, that none will be after a book deal like certain officers from before, who are Totally responsible for every single vile accusation against all Ramsey family members that goes on & on still to this day for No sound reason At All.

[@Olivia-no7mi]

How Heartbreaking God Rest Her Soul.❤🙏🏻😞

[@misscandy84]

I was 27 when this happen I remember it on news everywhere was big thing rip little angel

[@cecyavila4631]

Jonbenet 💙

[@jos6232]

Sexual Abuse is too obvious alone looking at the pictures of the poor girl made up as a grown woman, and then...kidnapped in her own home, I believe it's the father who did it.

[@jeanmariowenne7828]

and letter written by her mother

[@bethryan9077]

Only those with sick minds see JB 'made up as a grown woman'. Go get Help.

[@bethryan9077]

@@jeanmariowenne7828 Very Few know that in 2003, Federal Court Judge Carne declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. And that was way back Then. All can read the 93 page document online. Besides Actual evidence talked about, Carne is scathing about Steve Thomas & Cina Wong in relation to all the BS they told about this case. And, Wong had No qualifications to call herself a writing analyst in the first place. Her vids show Fake writing on a whiteboard as If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & as If from police files, all Fake. Thomas never worked a murder case before & only cared how his hair looked for the cameras. He constantly talked about the book he was going to write. He was sued for that book of Lies but many in the public domain don’t know about That & still see him as some sort of hero & Repeat his BS. Many unscrupulous so-called ‘authors’ followed his lead & put out Their versions of BS. The Boulder PD took the note to the Secret Service & they also hired 2 Renowned private experts, all 4 said No Ramsey wrote the note. Of course, that was Before Steve Thomas set his sites on his delusions of grandeur & blamed Patsy because of a notepad. He was sued for all his lies & lost every cent. In his desperation for fame & $$, he hadn’t found out/been Told about the Second severe fraction to JB’s skull, being a Hole. Besides many of the other gross injuries & sadistic acts to her person, in one word - Torture, that he Dismissed. I suppose he looked good for TV though. Alex Hunter was one of the few who had full Integrity, Lou Smit was another. These men Saw all the evidence known about in those early stages, the public & the grand jury Did Not. From the 1st week of 1997 til 2008, the DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs - unknown male DNA & Matching from - under JB's fingernails, saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants, touch DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & outside there. The DNA has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. That DNA continued to Clear people & Still. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, Over 200 pieces of Plus the DNA that had already Cleared them all & Lots of others including known pedos & John Mark Karr who said he did it. Further testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns. One is hispanic, the other was a white guy with fair hair. He was Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard when they left. Another vital Fact that has been swept under the rug because so many ‘authors’ jumped on the bandwagon & wrote books of BS for Financial Gain. All that false & misleading information, transferred to TV for the Same reason. And so, onto Utube ‘shows’. The brainwashing of the public began a long time ago. It’s now 2022 & because of the many dedicated investigators who continued the search Unpaid, all is now known & the 4 involved have been identified, 2 are dead, the BPD are holding things up Who would Write a ransom note on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For the Cops? There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That!

[@bethryan9077]

@@jeanmariowenne7828 The Present officers had No problems believing the Ramseys were genuine & Linda Arndt wrote a Favourable report about the Ramseys to the BPD & said their behaviour was appropriate to the circumstances. The media went into a frenzy because the body was found in the house & they considered that to have been on Arndt's watch. She arrived at 8.10 a.m. with detective Patterson. It was actually Her who moved the body to the living room. Eight cops & detectives arrived at various times that morning. It was the Cops who should have found JB early that morning, Not her poor father that afternoon. The BPD then went into damage control to save their Own asses & so the BS began. Arndt was put on desk duties, didn’t like what was going on in the office & was gone by May. Her next job was as a tree lopper. Many today believe Arndt was the only officer at the house all day when That is not true either. Next - she had great acting lessons for that Performance on national TV because she was after a book deal Too. She tried to sue the BPD for Money, but lost the case. Her report to the BPD was in the public domain & so, she was Caught as a Liar & later retracted all she said in that abysmal interview. Somewhere along the line she had Regret at least & when Patsy was dying, Arndt went to see her & apologised for all she had said for the TV audience & vowed to help find the killer. Lying loon Arndt knew Full Well the note said Tomorrow. The Ramseys gave the cops free reign to their house from the minute officer French walked in the door because they had Nothing To Hide. They spoke to the cops & detectives in total for Hours that morning & after JB was found. Burke was interviewed when still at the Whites at 2 p.m. by detective Patterson, Neither parent was present, nor did they know that was happening. John spoke with the Ds that night, Patsy was bedridden by then. Arndt asked John for them to go to the PD on the 28th. The Ramseys had already witnessed how inept the cops Were & John hired a private investigator straight away. They gave the required samples & John spoke to the Ds for 2 hours again that day. Steve Thomas was brought in because the present investigators refused to target the Ramseys. Thomas had Zero experience with Any murder case before & thought he would make a name for himself from the high profile crime. His partner was an auto-theft officer. The BPD rarely had a murder & this was the first for '96. The next 2 up the ladder had No experience with homicide Either. The BPD refused help from the FBI & the CBI. The present investigators had No problems believing the Ramseys were genuine that day. Then the body was found in the house when the Cops should have found her early that morning & the BPD went into damage control & so, the BS Began. False & misleading information was already being leaked to the media. The Ramseys were told they were being targeted & advised to get lawyers. Very sound advice & the Right of All citizens. The talk was through the lawyers then, That's how it Goes. John went on to hire 3 more private investigators. What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on national TV & for Years? NONE. And John continued that after Patsy died. He & John Andrew continue Still. You people know Nothing about this crime & know nothing True about this case. Most of you don't even Know what Actually happened to JB. The Ramseys were Proven Innocent a long time ago, it is way over time to leave the family In Peace.. Patsy was using the Wall phone that was near the kitchen. In the Real recording of that call, Patsy hanging up the handset on the cradle is Clearly heard - CLICK. IF the cops Actually had Any Ramseys in the background because Patsy didn’t hang up, the recording would have been played til the end & all would have heard CLICK. And, Steve Thomas refused to have that call forensically sound tested. Funny that. It was before 6 a.m., pitch dark outside, no-one around & they were terrified. Who would know how long the cops would take to get there. After that Desperate 911 call, Patsy called the Whites, the Fernies & Mrs Stine - For Help. Mrs Stine couldn’t come. Mr Fernie later called their pastor for prayers & comfort, it was going to be a long wait, the note said Tomorrow. The cops called 2 victim’s advocates to come. 8 cops & detectives arrived at various times that morning, Nobody was looking for JB, it was a Ransom note. Except for Arndt, all cops were gone by 10.30 a.m. John did Not go straight to the cellar. He & Fleet White were checking out the broken window, looking for any glass at all. They had checked the 2 cupboards in that co-joined room first. The cellar was the next room at that end of the basement. John had Presumed the cops down the basement that morning had checked out that broken window early that morning. He was to find out later that the cops hadn't gone through the train room door & so to those windows. The cops didn't know about that broken window til they went back that evening. That's Why the 'famous' photo of the opened window was taken in the Night. The cops have always kept That info from the public. The same cops, also failed to flip the latch down on the top of door jamb of the cellar door & pull that door open, they just walked away. Officer Veitch went around the exterior when still dark that morning with his flashlight, he failed to those same windows under the grate. Reichenbach went around the exterior later when light, he too failed to see those windows. That broken window is Not where the perps got into the house, but That is Not the point. Steve Thomas continually said that John had lied about getting in that window when he locked himself out of the house, even though the housekeeper had vacuumed up the broken glass there 2 times. Thomas nor any other cop Ever tried to climb in there. Months later, it took Lou Smit to Demonstrate, that was True.

[@bethryan9077]

This is the problem for you people - you don't know a Damn Thing about the crime, the case Or about what was Actually perpetrated upon this poor Child. The Authorities Plus Forensic Scientists, Proved Intruders Were in That house. The public are still back in the Old Days, you all need to Catch Up, it is Not still 1996, 1997, 1998. Expert investigators Continued Working This Case. Soo many in the public domain are stuck in a friggin Time Warp. The False & misleading information that is Still being portrayed on Most of the vids on Utube, is the Same False & Misleading information that media & books put out from Way Back Then. Wake Up America! Go do some Actual Research. Learn about the Actual evidence. You people have seen a few photos - pineapple in a bowl, flashlight on a bench, cord on a stick, writing on some pages. That is Not Evidence & most certainly Nothing to do with Evidence of Murder. Thank goodness you people didn't get to see More photos. LOL. FYI - there were Hundreds. Someone made a TV 'show' & told you all those items were evidence about the Ramseys & Burke, they Were Not. You have All been Hoodwinked. The ONLY piece that you people know about that Can be classed as evidence, is the notepad. THAT Was Used to Commit this crime. That Did come from the house. There is No Other Evidence From That House, that was Used To Commit This Crime. So what have you people got? Never ending stupid Crap that you all post, that Also has Nothing to do with the Murder of This Child. Access the autopsy photos that are online, they are shoulders up only. Have a good look at the burn on this child's cheek & the cord left embedded in her neck. There were also abrasions at the base of her neck from that cord, from earlier vile acts with that Bondage Device. That was Not a garrotte. Some Idiot thought that Word looked good for a Headline & in a Book, because of that One Photo. A garrotte has Two handles to work, Not One. Source the Photo of the Whole thing. What I have Already told you about That, is the True Facts. The Authentic autopsy report States about the rust coloured marks at each temple & the same rust coloured marks on the back of one leg. Crime scene photos Show the rusty log grabber in the Cellar. The authentic autopsy report can be found online, the 1st page has the symbol/emblem for Boulder County- That flashlight was Not a weapon used & that did Not belong to the Ramseys. The authentic autopsy report Proves JB did Not eat Any of that pineapple, Forensics Proved That. Patsy did Not write that note, the Experts Proved That & the Writing was Not the Only factor that Proved That, She Did NOT. Glenn Meyer took the notepad when he invited himself to their Xmas party on the 23rd, Simple as That. He organised this crime for Money, his 3 cohorts turned into something else. This was a very, Very well Planned crime for money & revenge. There are Many reasons why kidnapping has always been a rare crime. One has to take the time to Think about Why that is a Fact. The plan - JB was Never to be taken from that basement. It was always going to be 50/50 if the cops were called & they didn’t get that quick cash. They sure didn’t go to so much trouble & such high risk for Nothing. The taking of photos was their back-up for money. True Crime for a great many, is way too much to Fathom when you don’t know about the True Facts. The Ramseys were Officially Exonerated a Long time ago with a mountain of Actual Evidence & by Real experts, including Forensic Scientists. Just because you don’t Know about that evidence, does Not Mean that it doesn’t exist. The DNA from an unknown male has been in CODIS since 2003. Give the FBI a call. Clearly you people need to Learn what DNA is About. You have been watching TV for over 25 Years & you Choose to believe it All, as long as it’s Against - the Ramseys. You don’t care which one, Or, you decide on all 3. Yet, you don’t even know about ANY Actual Evidence. Shame on every one of You. This case - Has Never Been To Trial & so, You have Never Seen the Case Evidence. What sort of people say all they do about this Very Kind family, when you have Never even Seen Any of the Evidence about the Crime? Loads of you even Demean this murdered little girl also & since 2016, her 9 year old brother too, because of a Bogus TV ‘show’ that was put out by a pack of Con Artists. Burke was Never even a suspect & was interviewed That afternoon when he was still at the Whites by detective Patterson, Neither parent was present, Nor did they know that was happening. Patterson spoke Publicly after that BS ‘show’ & said Burke knew Nothing & was Very worried that his sister was still missing. None of you even Know what was Actually perpetrated upon JonBenet, nor do you Care to Find Out, because you’re all too busy spouting all your hateful Garbage about a case that You Know Nothing About & At a fine Upstanding family who Didn’t Do A Damn Thing & who, In Fact, were Victims.. Soo many down the threads, all sites, are an Absolute Disgrace & that’s just another True Fact. A great many people say that 'it doesn't add up'. But, soo many people, Don't Know Any True Facts about - Anything & so, you are Not in the position to say - that it doesn't add up. All Ramseys were Proven Innocent with a mountain of Actual evidence & eventually by a bunch of Seasoned Experts, including Forensic Scientists. All those under the umbrella of Law Enforcement who Saw 'Facts In Evidence' which Included the autopsy photos, the photo of the skull & the Authentic autopsy report. . . Until this case is brought to trial for criminal proceedings, the general public will Never get to know the True Facts about this case. Unless you start some Actual Research online, but that takes a whole lot of hard slog & one needs some experience just to tell the difference between a fake document & an authentic one. The vids are Still full of False & Misleading information whether old TV programmes or new Utube 'shows' & both show Fake pages put up on the screen As If from police files, the Same False & misleading information in soo many books. All of this BS has been going around for Over 25 years & counting. People need to wake up to themselves. Obviously too many in the public domain believe all that they read in trashy magazines too

[@jdmbraceyourself9860]

Best movie ever

[@melanieannerackl7947]

Good I’m glad u liked it.

[@jasper5631]

The Grand Jury did decide to indict the Ramsey's. Hunter made the wrong call! What a shame!

[@bethryan9077]

The BPD took the note to the Secret Service & they also hired 2 Renowned private experts, all 4 said No Ramsey wrote the note. **From the 1st week of 1997 til 2008, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under JB’s fingernails - unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but Never tested. Steve Thomas constantly talked about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury was to convene that more DNA tests were ordered. The blood was JBs & Same unknown male DNA - saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. The BPD & Steve Thomas, who had Never worked a murder case Before, were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD, whose officers Should have found JB early that morning though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they Failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. The broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point. Only America & one other country still has a stupid grand jury system. It is unfair, unjust & doesn't work. The jurors only hear from the prosecution, who get to pick & choose what evidence is presented & which witnesses appear. There is no judge, no defence lawyers & No experts to rebut Whatever is presented. As a consequence, the jury vote on the side of the prosecution 98.6% of the time. And Steve Thomas withheld a great deal of vital evidence. The vote was never for murder. Unlike the jury, the general public & the media, the DA Saw all the evidence known about at that time as did Lou Smit, one of the best investigators in the country. The DNA alone Proved just how Wrong the jury Were. Steve Thomas illegally took evidence material from the BPD & resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, that was the precursor for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That also. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his Story. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent. The investigation Continued along with a bevy of private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another. What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on national TV & for Years? NONE. The Ramseys continued that til Patsy died in 2006 & John continued the same & does to this day. Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolfe vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carne got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carne declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his integrity as a police officer & all his BS in that book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He did That to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carne was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with writing ‘samples’ As If Patsy’s, it’s all Fake. The public have Never seen Patsy’s writing. The Ramseys & Loads of others. who included known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA a Long time ago. The DNA from that unknown male was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - Same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & the outside there. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of Plus the DNA from the unknown male, that had also cleared John Mark Karr who said he did it. Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the Whites Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push This vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the BS continues. N.B. Who would Write a ransom note on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The Cops? There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That! The public need to understand that this case hasn’t been to Trial yet & so - You Know Nothing About This Crime, The Case Or About What Was Actually Perpetrated Upon This Poor Child. BTW - Burke, Was Never Even A Suspect. The Bits You Think You Know About this Crime - Are NOT True. *You all need to get this Very Clear - You Do Not Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years have Also stated that the Ramseys - Are Innocent. It’s 2022 & All is now Known - the 4 involved have been identified, 2 are dead, the BPD are holding things up. The BPD have issued a statement via the media -on the 1st May, 2022.

[@bethryan9077]

The Ramseys were Officially Exonerated a Long time ago with a mountain of Actual Evidence & by Real experts, including Forensic Scientists. Just because you don’t Know about that evidence, does Not Mean that it doesn’t exist. The DNA from an unknown male has been in CODIS since 2003. Give the FBI a call. Clearly you people need to Learn what DNA is About. You have been watching TV for over 25 Years & you Choose to believe it All, as long as it’s Against - the Ramseys. You don’t care which one, Or, you decide on all 3. Yet, you don’t even know about ANY Actual Evidence. Shame on every one of You. This case - Has Never Been To Trial & so, You have Never Seen the Case Evidence. What sort of people say all they do about this Very Kind family, when you have Never even Seen Any of the Evidence about the Crime? Loads of you even Demean this murdered little girl also & since 2016, her 9 year old brother too, because of a Bogus TV ‘show’ that was put out by a pack of Con Artists. Burke was Never even a suspect & was interviewed That afternoon when he was still at the Whites by detective Patterson, Neither parent was present, Nor did they know that was happening. Patterson spoke Publicly after that BS ‘show’ & said Burke knew Nothing & was Very worried that his sister was still missing. None of you even Know what was Actually perpetrated upon JonBenet, nor do you Care to Find Out, because you’re all too busy spouting all your hateful Garbage about a case that You Know Nothing About & At a fine Upstanding family who Didn’t Do A Damn Thing & who, In Fact, were Victims.. Soo many down the threads, all sites, are an Absolute Disgrace & that’s just another True Fact. Soo many people say 'it doesn't add up'. But soo many people, Don't Know Any True Facts about - Anything & so, you are Not in the position to say - that it doesn't add up. You saw a few photos & think you know it all - pineapple in a bowl, flashlight on a bench, cord on a stick, writing on some pages - thank goodness you didn’t get to see More photos. LOL. All Ramseys were Proven Innocent with a mountain of Actual evidence & eventually by a bunch of Seasoned Experts, including Forensic Scientists. All those under the umbrella of Law Enforcement who Saw 'Facts In Evidence' which Included the autopsy photos, the photo of the skull & the Authentic autopsy report. . . Until this case is brought to trial for criminal proceedings, the general public will Never get to know the True Facts about this case. Unless you start some Actual Research online, but that takes a whole lot of hard slog & one needs some experience just to tell the difference between a fake document & an authentic one. The vids are Still full of False & Misleading information whether old TV programmes or new Utube 'shows' & both show Fake pages put up on the screen As If from police files, the Same False & misleading information in soo many books. All of this BS has been going around for Over 25 years & counting. People need to wake up to themselves. Obviously too many in the public domain believe all that they read in trashy magazines too.

[@bethryan9077]

Only America & one other country still has a stupid grand jury system. It is unfair, unjust & doesn't work. The jurors only hear from the prosecution, who get to pick & choose what evidence is presented & which witnesses appear. There is no judge, no defence lawyers & No experts to rebut Whatever is presented. As a consequence, the jury vote on the side of the prosecution 98.6% of the time. And Steve Thomas withheld a great deal of vital evidence. The vote was never for murder. Unlike the jury, the general public & the media, the DA Saw all the evidence known about at that time as did Lou Smit, one of the best investigators in the country. The DNA alone Proved just how Wrong the jury Were.

[@mikejustice1196]

Why would Hunter prosecute innocent people? Waiting?

[@Wareaglegirl9960]

@@mikejustice1196they weren’t innocent

[@phucker]

Who killed JonBenét Ramsey? A. Patsy B. John C. Burke D. All of the above

[@nbenefiel]

Prove it.

[@SteveLand-np5cq]

The parents did it for sure. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out

[@user-ue5ux3nj5y]

They should've played the actual phone call

[@londonderrry]

There was no intruder...

[@kristinevitale4630]

I was just about 12 or 13 when this happened. In watching this now; I believe that someone in the family had something to do with the murder. But something really doesn't add up because I saw crime scene photos in other videos and it looks like she was hit with a stun-gun. There was a burn mark behind her ear. Boulder police have reopened this case not to long ago and I hope with better DNA technology they can catch the killer

[@SusieQ1971]

It's not a DNA case and those weren't stun gun burns. They were train track marks from Burke's electronic train. One theory is Burke used them post mortem to try to shock her back to life. They proved it wasn't stun gun marks.

[@vicksta8875]

This isnt a DNA case. They know that DNA is Bogus. All Physical and Forensic Evidence points to the Ramseys! All of it!!! No fake intruder... The Mile of people involved in this coverup is insane!

[@lalaLAX219]

The “stun gun” mark was shown not to be similar to stun gun markings in the CBS special. A detective on the case matched the two marks with the spokes of Burke’s train track toy. As for the DNA evidence, experts said it was likely to be a mixture of two or more profiles and was not necessarily left behind by the perpetrator of the crime. The prosecutor had no basis for “exonerating” the Ramseys based on the available evidence and experts believe it’s unlikely that the DNA mixture will help identify anyone let alone the killer.

[@minnietrout814]

That long azz weirdly worded ransom letter; letter obviously written in the home; a kidnapper who decides to kill the child he/she’s planning on collecting ransom for; still leaves that ludicrous ransom letter; Patsy says “at least JB will never have cancer or lose a child” 🙄- Getting interviewed for tv but unwilling to be interviewed/interrogated by police. Fleet White knows who’s responsible: someone in the family. Patsy had a flair for the dramatic. I don’t care what kind of DNA they’ve claimed to have, Patsy did it.

[@86crud]

I feel the same way about my dead daughter. At least she’ll never suffer anything again.

[@bethryan9077]

Like soo many others, you don't know a damn thing about the crime, the case, Or what Actually happened to JB. Who would Write a ransom note on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The Cops? There is something seriously Wrong with all those, like Yourself, who believe Patsy did That. The Ramseys gave the cops free reign to their house from the minute officer French walked in the door because they had Nothing to hide. They spoke to the cops & detectives in total for Hours that morning & after JB was found. Burke was interviewed when still at the Whites at 2 p.m. by detective Patterson, Neither parent was present. John spoke with the Ds that night, Patsy was bedridden by then. Arndt asked John for them to go to the PD on the 28th. The Ramseys had already witnessed how inept the cops Were & John hired a private investigator straight away. They gave the required samples & John spoke to the Ds for 2 hours again that day. Steve Thomas was brought in because the present investigators refused to target the Ramseys. Thomas had Zero experience with Any murder case before & thought he would make a name for himself from the high profile crime. His partner was an auto-theft officer. The BPD rarely had a murder & this was the first for '96. The next 2 up the ladder had No experience with homicide Either. The BPD refused help from the FBI & the CBI. The present investigators had No problems believing the Ramseys were genuine that day. Then the body was found in the house when the Cops should have found her early that morning & the BPD went into damage control & so, the BS Began. False & misleading information was already being leaked to the media. The Ramseys were told they were being targeted & advised to get lawyers. Very sound advice & the Right of All citizens. The talk was through the lawyers then, That's how it Goes. John went on to hire 3 more private investigators. What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on national TV & for Years? NONE. And John continued that after Patsy died. He & John Andrew continue Still. From the 1st week of 1997 til 2008, the DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs - unknown male DNA & Matching from - under JB's fingernails, saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants, touch DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & outside there. The DNA has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is Hispanic. These 2 left town within the week. One was 17 at the time & came to the U.S. from Puerto Rico when younger with his family. The other one was 24, white guy with fair hair. He was Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard when they left. Another vital Fact that has been swept under the rug because so many ‘authors’ jumped on the bandwagon & wrote books of BS for Financial Gain. All that false & misleading information, transferred to TV for the Same reason. And so, onto Utube ‘shows’. The brainwashing of the public began a Long time ago. The BPD took the note to the Secret Service & they also hired 2 Renowned private experts, all said 4 No Ramsey wrote the note. It’s now 2022 & because of the many dedicated investigators who continued the search, all is known & the 4 involved have been identified, 2 are dead, the BPD are holding things up. It is Way over time to leave the Proven Innocent family In Peace. You People do Not Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the Federal Court Judge Or the Boulder PD, who have Stated for Many Years that the Ramseys Are Innocent. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of plus the DNA that had already Cleared them All & Lots of others including known pedos & John Mark Karr who said he did it. That DNA continued to Clear people & Still. Guess what? Nobody Cares what Daft people Think.

[@davidfigueroa6351]

Mrs. "foreign faction" herself

[@davidfigueroa6351]

@@bethryan9077 beth, you're such a simp for the Ramseys. Bad 'ol foreign faction!

[@minnietrout814]

Beth Ryan you’re delusional and quite uninformed/misinformed.

[@darincampbell171]

After all the “t’s” have been crossed and all the “i’s” dotted, there should be NO doubt that Patsy wrote the ransom note. This was a tragic accident and a sloppy way to try to cover it up. It was a total mess. So sad for that innocent child. She didn’t deserve what she got! Peace.

[@shirleyminassian1547]

I totally agree with you.

[@darincampbell171]

@@shirleyminassian1547 - Thanks! Peace.

[@vickijohnson9704]

Everyone said they were excellent parents and they adored that baby girl. If it had been an accident, they wouldn't have covered it up in such a sexual fetish fashion and in such a humiliating way. They could have written a ransom note and not tied the child up. No, I don't think the Ramseys were involved.

[@darincampbell171]

@@vickijohnson9704 - I disagree! They were involved and did a sloppy job trying to cover it up. There is more underneath in these parents. Something that weren’t telling. If one of them wrote that ransom note, then they were involved. Patsy wrote it! I will always believe that these parents are involved in this somehow. Peace.

[@vickijohnson9704]

But there IS doubt.

[@melanieannerackl7947]

Yes for the video.

[@memecorrea9040]

The mother and father was lying they asses off why would a kidnapper leave her behind in the basement knowing it’s a possibility the parents will find her then leave a note asking for money if it was a kidnapper wouldn’t they take the person they are supposedly kidnapping they story just didn’t add up at all praying that one day there will be justices for this little princess

[@bethryan9077]

This is the problem for all those like Yourself - you don't know a Damn Thing about the crime, the case Or about what was Actually perpetrated upon this poor Child. The Authorities Plus Forensic Scientists, Proved Intruders Were in That house. The public are still back in the Old Days, you all need to Catch Up, it is Not still 1996, 1997, 1998. Expert investigators Continued Working This Case. Soo many in the public domain are stuck in a friggin Time Warp. The False & misleading information that is Still being portrayed on Most of the vids on Utube, is the Same False & Misleading information that media & books put out from Way Back Then. Wake Up America! Go do some Actual Research. Learn about the Actual evidence. You people have seen a few photos - pineapple in a bowl, flashlight on a bench, cord on a stick, writing on some pages. That is Not Evidence & most certainly Nothing to do with Evidence of Murder. Thank goodness you people didn't get to see More photos. LOL. FYI - there were Hundreds. Someone made a TV 'show' & told you all those items were evidence about the Ramseys & Burke, they Were Not. You have All been Hoodwinked. The ONLY piece that you people know about that Can be classed as evidence, is the notepad. THAT Was Used to Commit this crime. That Did come from the house. There is No Other Evidence From That House, that was Used To Commit This Crime. So what have you people got? Never ending stupid Crap that you all post, that Also has Nothing to do with the Murder of This Child. Access the autopsy photos that are online, they are shoulders up only. Have a good look at the burn on this child's cheek & the cord left embedded in her neck. There were also abrasions at the base of her neck from that cord, from earlier vile acts with that Bondage Device. That was Not a garrotte. Some Idiot thought that Word looked good for a Headline & in a Book, because of that One Photo. A garrotte has Two handles to work, Not One. Source the Photo of the Whole thing. What I have Already told you about That, is the True Facts. The Authentic autopsy report States about the rust coloured marks at each temple & the same rust coloured marks on the back of one leg. Crime scene photos Show the rusty log grabber in the Cellar. The authentic autopsy report can be found online, the 1st page has the symbol/emblem for Boulder County- That flashlight was Not a weapon used & that did Not belong to the Ramseys. The authentic autopsy report Proves JB did Not eat Any of that pineapple, Forensics Proved That. Patsy did Not write that note, the Experts Proved That & the Writing was Not the Only factor that Proved That, She Did NOT. Glenn Meyer took the notepad when he invited himself to their Xmas party on the 23rd, Simple as That. He organised this crime for Money, his 3 cohorts turned into something else. This was a very, Very well Planned crime for money & revenge. There are Many reasons why kidnapping has always been a rare crime. One has to take the time to Think about Why that is a Fact. The plan - JB was Never to be taken from that basement. It was always going to be 50/50 if the cops were called & they didn’t get that quick cash. They sure didn’t go to so much trouble & such high risk for Nothing. The taking of photos was their back-up for money. True Crime for a great many, is way too much to Fathom when you don’t know about the True Facts. The Ramseys were Officially Exonerated a Long time ago with a mountain of Actual Evidence & by Real experts, including Forensic Scientists. Just because you don’t Know about that evidence, does Not Mean that it doesn’t exist. The DNA from an unknown male has been in CODIS since 2003. Give the FBI a call. Clearly you people need to Learn what DNA is About. You have been watching TV for over 25 Years & you Choose to believe it All, as long as it’s Against - the Ramseys. You don’t care which one, Or, you decide on all 3. Yet, you don’t even know about ANY Actual Evidence. Shame on every one of You. This case - Has Never Been To Trial & so, You have Never Seen the Case Evidence. What sort of people say all they do about this Very Kind family, when you have Never even Seen Any of the Evidence about the Crime? Loads of you even Demean this murdered little girl also & since 2016, her 9 year old brother too, because of a Bogus TV ‘show’ that was put out by a pack of Con Artists. Burke was Never even a suspect & was interviewed That afternoon when he was still at the Whites by detective Patterson, Neither parent was present, Nor did they know that was happening. Patterson spoke Publicly after that BS ‘show’ & said Burke knew Nothing & was Very worried that his sister was still missing. None of you even Know what was Actually perpetrated upon JonBenet, nor do you Care to Find Out, because you’re all too busy spouting all your hateful Garbage about a case that You Know Nothing About & At a fine Upstanding family who Didn’t Do A Damn Thing & who, In Fact, were Victims.. Soo many down the threads, all sites, are an Absolute Disgrace & that’s just another True Fact. A great many people say that 'it doesn't add up'. But, soo many people, Don't Know Any True Facts about - Anything & so, you are Not in the position to say - that it doesn't add up. All Ramseys were Proven Innocent with a mountain of Actual evidence & eventually by a bunch of Seasoned Experts, including Forensic Scientists. All those under the umbrella of Law Enforcement who Saw 'Facts In Evidence' which Included the autopsy photos, the photo of the skull & the Authentic autopsy report. . . Until this case is brought to trial for criminal proceedings, the general public will Never get to know the True Facts about this case. Unless you start some Actual Research online, but that takes a whole lot of hard slog & one needs some experience just to tell the difference between a fake document & an authentic one. The vids are Still full of False & Misleading information whether old TV programmes or new Utube 'shows' & both show Fake pages put up on the screen As If from police files, the Same False & misleading information in soo many books. All of this BS has been going around for Over 25 years & counting. People need to wake up to themselves. Obviously too many in the public domain believe all that they read in trashy magazines too.

[@bethryan9077]

The BPD took the note to the Secret Service & they also hired 2 Renowned private experts, all 4 said No Ramsey wrote the note. **From the 1st week of 1997 til 2008, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under JB’s fingernails - unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but Never tested. Steve Thomas constantly talked about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury was to convene that more DNA tests were ordered. The blood was JBs & Same unknown male DNA - saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. The BPD & Steve Thomas, who had Never worked a murder case Before, were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD, whose officers Should have found JB early that morning though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they Failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. The broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point. Only America & one other country still has a stupid grand jury system. It is unfair, unjust & doesn't work. The jurors only hear from the prosecution, who get to pick & choose what evidence is presented & which witnesses appear. There is no judge, no defence lawyers & No experts to rebut Whatever is presented. As a consequence, the jury vote on the side of the prosecution 98.6% of the time. And Steve Thomas withheld a great deal of vital evidence. The vote was never for murder. Unlike the jury, the general public & the media, the DA Saw all the evidence known about at that time as did Lou Smit, one of the best investigators in the country. The DNA alone Proved just how Wrong the jury Were. Steve Thomas illegally took evidence material from the BPD & resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, that was the precursor for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That also. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his Story. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent. The investigation Continued along with a bevy of private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another. What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on national TV & for Years? NONE. The Ramseys continued that til Patsy died in 2006 & John continued the same & does to this day. Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolfe vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carne got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carne declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his integrity as a police officer & all his BS in that book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He did That to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carne was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with writing ‘samples’ As If Patsy’s, it’s all Fake. The public have Never seen Patsy’s writing. The Ramseys & Loads of others. who included known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA a Long time ago. The DNA from that unknown male was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - Same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & the outside there. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of Plus the DNA from the unknown male, that had also cleared John Mark Karr who said he did it. Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the Whites Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push This vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the BS continues. N.B. Who would Write a ransom note on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The Cops? There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That! The public need to understand that this case hasn’t been to Trial yet & so - You Know Nothing About This Crime, The Case Or About What Was Actually Perpetrated Upon This Poor Child. BTW - Burke, Was Never Even A Suspect. The Bits You Think You Know About this Crime - Are NOT True. *You all need to get this Very Clear - You Do Not Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years have Also stated that the Ramseys - Are Innocent. It’s 2022 & All is now Known - the 4 involved have been identified, 2 are dead, the BPD are holding things up. **The BPD have issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022

[@nbenefiel]

This was always going to be a murder, not a kidnapping. The ransom note was meant to cast suspicion on Patsy and delay discovery of the body, giving the killer time to get far away.

[@nbenefiel]

There was never any intent of a kidnapping. This was always going to be sexual assault and murder. A real kidnapper would demand a lot more money and would have immediately removed his victim from the house, not taken her to the basement, tortured her for a few hours and then strangled her to death with a very complicated garrote. The killer left his DNA at three sites on her body. He left various prints around the murder site and he left his pubic hair on the blanket he used to cover her body after killing her.

[@TheB3oEntertainer]

Jon Benet Ramsey God will watch over you in Heaven and you are a forever star in this world and up there in the skies

[@DatsSoBrittany]

Patsy wrote that note 😩🥴

[@brianna-reneejeanjordan9160]

Marg helgenberger did amazing in this movie.

[@egyptj8476]

Watching the interviews i feel like the parents had something to do with it ..each time they talk about its not enough pain in them too much smiling ..i know ppl grieve differently but thats just wild

[@EnliveningJustice]

Listen to the 3 segments on youtube channel, True Crime Garage - Jonbenet: Poems & pornography.

[@Krisnelson1969]

Obviously, if Patsy, the mother, killed Jon Benet, she died, too. If she did it, she’ll answer to God.

[@scottoverbey7809]

No she will answer to Lucifer

[@nbenefiel]

Patsy had just gone into remission from stage 4 ovarian cancer after surgery, chemo and radiation. She knew her prognosis was not good. She cherished what time she had left with her family. She died in 2006, never knowing who killed her beloved daughter. Speculating that God was punishing her for her sins is insulting to both Patsy and God. God doesn’t work that way.

[@nbenefiel]

As there is no evidence that patsy was anything but a loving mother, a devoted wife, and a kind and generous neighbour, I imagine she is enjoying eternity with her beloved daughter.

[@melanieannerackl7947]

That was so long I was just gunna stay the night Lol

[@annetteturner5954]

I pray it did not happen the way we all think, I believe they love their children!!!!!

[@JBthree24]

Of course they did love their kids but it was an accident

[@bethryan9077]

@@JBthree24 JB was choked more than once with the white nylon cord, tasered more than once with an air taser, tortured with the complex made bondage device & these actions went on over a period of Hours. When Patsy called 911, the perps strangled JB to death with the cord then savage blows to her head with 3 weapons that caused the Open fracture down nearly the length of the skull plus the hole. That overkill was also pre-planned if the cops were called. Yeah,, some 'accident'.

[@carolinebilliot2298]

I still think her brother did it and her parents covered it up. I only learned about this case when I was in high school…because I was 9 months old at the time this happened

[@leeannsickels8074]

DNA evidence cleared the entire family of being involved in her murder in 2008. Her brother nor any other member of the family had anything to do with it.

[@carolinebilliot2298]

@@leeannsickels8074 I said what I said

[@bethryan9077]

Known Facts - Alarm set 5.30 a.m., the Ramseys were to get on a plane for Charlevoix. Patsy found the note, raced upstairs, found JB gone & screamed for John & could only say about a note & JB gone. He said “call the police”. It was pitch dark, no-one around & they were terrified. Patsy called the Whites & the Fernies for Help. John Fernie called their pastor for prayers & comfort. The cops called 2 victim’s advocates to come. 2 got in the kitchen door when the Ramseys went to the Whites for dinner. They had broken in before & that’s why they knew where everything was & exactly what they were going to do. About 1.30 a.m. JB was choked with the white cord & tasered on her back in bed, wrapped in 2 white blankets & carried to the boiler room. When the cord was quickly released she screamed, a neighbour heard that because of the vent in the boiler room that was at the front of the house. Fibres from the cord were found on JBs sheet & are in evidence. They ran out a side door, down to the back & waited under a pine tree then went back in. They had run into the metal ladder & it hit the cement as they ran out. That was the 'crash' noise the neighbour's husband heard. Fresh pine needles came off one of their jackets & were found in the cellar & are in evidence. She was given a lot of water in the early hours, tasered & vile acts occurred. That was not a garrotte it was a complex bondage device & made by the 17 year old who was into causing fear & used electricity. Both these factors & position & so much water is why there is so much pee staining on the front of both undergarments & near to the waistbands. The carpet & underlay were cut out due to the pee stain & are in evidence. The nylon cord was bought as it had to be a bit slippery for the purpose. The knots were intricate & specific then a certain number of ties on the wood & then the 3 loops. When that was done the rest of the cord was JB's exact height. The tip of the paintbrush was cut off, used at her privates & never found because some deviants keep trophies. That was not a paintbrush of Patsy’s. JB was given pineapple fruitcake earlier & at 5.30 a.m. She did not eat any pineapple that was in the bowl, that was part of the staging, one of many. ‘The Stomach contains a small amount (8-10cc) of viscous to green to tan coloured thick material of no particulate matter identified’. ‘The Proximal Portion (top) of the Small Intestine contains fragmented pieces of yellow to light green-tan apparent vegetable or fruit material which may represent fragments of pineapple’. Arndt was there & told the ME pineapple was in a bowl. It takes 2 hours for stomach contents to go to the top of the small intestine. In Patsy’s recorded statement June ’98, Thomas Haney told her the pineapple in the bowl was Different to the fragments in the top of the small Intestine. When Patsy called 911, JB was strangled to death in a rage on top of the dryer in the basement laundry. Cops coming meant no money. There was a phone in that laundry. The one piece of tape was put over her mouth to stop fluids getting on their clothes & she was carried to the cellar. Then 3 blows to the head, 3 weapons & each is in evidence. The 1st - a brick on the top of the head that caused the huge open fracture down the length of the skull. The 2nd - a utility knife & small stabs to the skull in a shape. The tool used was broken off & not found. The 3rd - was the end of the steel kid's ball bat & that caused the hole that the stabs started. They had planned if the cops were called. They didn't plan that Patsy would stay on the phone calling friends to come & help. That phone on the wall was in the alcove near to where they had to get out the basement door & then their exit door. Glenn Meyer was the author of the note & he organised it all for money with 3 from the house on the corner. One had a huge grudge against John in relation to a family business in Michigan. All was set up to incriminate all Ramseys if no cash was paid. Their back-up for money was the taking of photos. Many items were brought into the house & staged. Many items were taken from cupboards & drawers & staged all over the house, basement & a few things outside. Meyer was secretly living in the Barnhill's basement across the road. He got to know a great deal about the Ramseys. JB's dog was mostly kept there & the kids & Patsy were over there often. Patsy gave the Barnhills many cards, letters & notes in her print writing over the years. It is easy to copy print writing & he only had to do Some letters like hers as it was Supposed to look like she was trying to disguise hers, which is impossible to do for near 3 pages & the Real experts know that fact. From his vantage point Myer could see through both staircase windows & knew Patsy & John came down the back stairs each morning to make coffee. The note was spread out so all 3 pages would be seen, they wanted their money. The notepad was taken at the Xmas party on the 23rd. Meyer went over saying he was looking for the Barnhills worried about them ensuring he was let in. John took him to where they were sitting & he stayed. The Ramseys didn't even know who he was. JB was never to be taken from the basement. SBTC & Victory is about a plane. Joe Barnhill was a radial gunner in WW2 & flew on the SB2C, Two - T, so SBTC. That was a famous bomber plane & lauded for bringing the war to victory. Meyer had a poster of that plane on a wall in his room, Victory was on the side of the plane. There is a photo of Barnhill holding a framed picture of that plane. From the advanced forensics, the private investigators who never gave up & as happens with lots of crimes, people talk eventually & that’s why so much is now known Plus because the crime scene techs who did an excellent job & taking all the photos & videos & collecting all the DNA. The Ramseys never put one foot back in that house ever again from after JB was found & they left. The trauma was way too much, but if they Had been able to, this case would have been a Very different matter for all involved. The discoveries were everywhere if the family would have seen it all with very astute investigators. Thomas was only brought into the case 3 days after because the investigators present refused to target the Ramseys. He was an ex-narcotics officer who had Zero experience with Any murder before let alone a ransom, which was the first crime. He thought he would make a name for himself from this high profile crime. His partner was an auto-theft officer. The BPD spent their time covering up their total incompetence. They rarely had a murder & this was their first for '96. They refused help from the FBI & the CBI. They put about misinformation & leaked certain photos. That amount of money was near John's bonus for '95 & was paid to him in March '96. The amount was on his pay stubs each month of '96. The suitcase was already placed under the window & the window opened for the 2nd time after the cops left. Both done as subterfuge. Same with the fresh green leaves that were dumped at the grate & some 'caught' under it. Lou made a mistake about that window, that's all. It was never an entry point. Early that morning, 2 officers did not go in the train room door & so through to the windows & 2 failed to pull open that cellar door. There is soo much more to this case that the public don't know about. The type of air taser used has been identified. The burns on JBs back & face are from same taser. The 2nd point was under JB's ear. The burn on her face was bigger because the point was placed there more than once - control. Google the murder of Gerald Boggs ‘93 Colorado. His autopsy photo shows the Exact same burns on his face, the 2nd point was on his earlobe. Those tasers were widely used by drug dealers in the 90s. The big underpants JB was found in were put on her in the early hours. Patsy, her sister, their mother & JB went to New York Xmas shopping. Patsy bought her niece a pack of 7 underpants from Bloomingdales that were called Bloomies. They were size 12-14 & had the weekdays on the waistbands. Patsy also bought from there 2 special Barbie dolls for JB. One had her own pair of underpants also called Bloomies. JB begged her mother for the pack of 7 so she had some like her doll. Patsy gave in & they were put away for JB til she would fit into them, about 8 years away. They were put in the back of a drawer in JB's bathroom. When they got home JB went to see her dog at the Barnhills & told them about her special presents. Meyer was ever listening. JB was found in the ones that had Wednesday on the waistband. It was a Wednesday that year for Xmas Day. Access the photo of the paint tray on the carpet. Look to the left a bit at the tray & up a bit, you will see a drawing of a sinister smirking cat's face/head on the carpet, as on the note - fat cat. That was not a nightgown of JBs found in the cellar, it was a dress taken off her life-sized doll that was kept in the corner of her room, but found in the playroom standing at a window. That bowl (with pineapple) was used at the Xmas party on the 23rd & had the icing for the gingerbread houses that all the kids were given & they decorated themselves. That was a heavy bowl & that was icing not milk. There were No fingerprints on that bowl. That glass had a dried tea bag & no tea was made in that. That silver ladle in the bowl came from a cupboard near the spiral staircase & was from a boxed set of 2 that the Ramseys received as a wedding present & had never been opened. That was chosen & placed because of the filigree that was the same as the filigree on some of JB's crowns. The Ramseys were finally exonerated in 2008 due to All the evidence that showed someone was in the house, over 200 pieces of & the DNA cleared them plus lots of others then & since. It is 2021, all is known & 4 involved have been identified, 2 are dead. Justice is coming.

[@bethryan9077]

People need to do some actual research instead of just believing what you saw on a documentary that was put together just so More of the unscrupulous make Money. That CBS Bogus 'show' was formatted to James Kolar's book of BS blaming Burke & that's why He was on there too. Sensationalism sells & soo many were happy as pigs in mud to lap it all up because y'all know Nothing about this case as a whole & you sure don't know anything True, let alone about what Actually happened to the poor child. CBS were mightily sued for the gross misleading of the public & those lying con artists were included in the suit. CBS settled out of court & paid multi millions of $$$. The 2 so-called scientists, Lee & Spitz, were personally sued for their deliberate lies & misinformation. FYI - there were Two Severe fractures to the skull. One was down the length & Open, the other was a Hole. How does a whack from Any weapon produce Two fractures like That for a Start? It is a fact that if Either of the fractures had occurred Before death, the skull would have been filled with blood, It Wasn't. At about 1.30 a.m. JB was choked & tasered in her bed, wrapped in 2 white blankets & carried down to the boiler room. She was given a lot of water & tasered & tortured with the bondage device, that was Not a garrotte & that's why the loops over the shirt at her wrists. Source the photo of the whole thing & while you're there, source the autopsy photos & the photo of the skull. The Authentic autopsy report can be found online. The 1st page has the symbol for Colorado. JB was never unconscious & there were dig marks from her nails in her skin at the cord because she was fighting for her life when being strangled to death. The autopsy photos show those marks And the White nylon Cord that was left Embedded in her neck. The blows to the head occurred just after her death, 3 weapons, each in evidence & None were that flashlight. The 1st blow caused the huge fracture down the skull & the photo of the skull shows the impact from the brick used, on the top of the head. A crime scene photo of the cellar shows the brick. The measurements Match. The 3rd blow caused the hole that the 2nd started & that weapon was put on the half-wall outside of the butler's kitchen door where the perps exited from. There is a crime scene photo showing that black steel ball bat & the glass exit door left wide open. The utility knife was left in the cellar & the tool used to do the small stabs to the skull, was broken off & never found. From the position of the cord at the front of the neck & the necklace caught at the bottom of the cord at the front of the neck, Proves JB was on her Back when strangled to death. That also Means that she was looking Up at the person doing that. The paintbrush was cut, broken & whittled to also implicate Burke. This whole crime for money was set up to incriminate the whole family if the cops were called & the perps didn't get their cash. That was Not a paintbrush of Patsys. The tip was used at JB's genitals & that caused bleeding that was wiped off with a blue cloth. The fibres are mentioned in the Authentic autopsy report. The tip was never found because some deviants keep trophies. Other vile acts occurred but too sensitive for this page. Those charlatans showed a doctored photo of JB's sheets with a big yellow stain when in fact JB did Not wet the bed. They swayed the public with 'some parts' that had been heard & read about previously & just twisted that info to suit Their agenda. They said a ligature was 'wrapped around the neck as staging' & showed a package of blue rope. Fact - a blue rope was found in a bag in the guest room that didn't belong to the Ramseys. They denied any attack at JB's genitals also because the Real Facts of what happened to the child was too much of a stretch for the audience to believe Burke would have done all, Or the parents & That's Why they didn't Talk about the huge fracture down the length of the skull Or the strangulation. And Then they said the cops were looking for the wrong offender. Spitz had the Hide to say that the very small slithers of wood must have jumped into the vagina when John carried her up the stairs & referred to That as contamination - when in Fact at autopsy, those slithers were found & those Blatant liars knew That also. There was a second autopsy done with other pathologists present & so, a 2nd report. Burke's train tracks had 3 steel pointy pins Not 2 blunt ones. The type of air taser used has been identified & they were Burns, not abrasions, the shapes were rectangular. The same burns on her face & under her ear, as on her back. The one on her face was bigger because the electrode was placed there more than once. The reason for that area near the brain is about control - little balance to walk & poor memory. Google the murder of Gerald Boggs, 1993, Colorado. His autopsy photo shows the Exact same burns to his face, the second was on his ear lobe. Those air tasers were widely used by drug dealers in the 90s. The BPD took the note to the Secret Service & they also hired 2 private renowned experts, all 4 said the Ramseys did Not write the note. Who would Write a ransom note on their Own notepad with their Own marker & then put both near the phone For The Cops? There is something fundamentally Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That. For the Real investigators, that was the First clue that told them the Ramseys were not involved. Unfortunately for the Ramseys, Steve Thomas was brought in as lead detective because the present investigators refused to target the Ramseys. He was an ex-narcotics officer who had Zero experience with Any murder case before. He thought he would make a name for himself from the high profile crime & constantly talked about the book he was going to write. He leaked confidential evidence material to the media & misinformation about the Ramseys. His partner was an auto-theft officer. The BPD were only interested in saving their own incompetent asses & went into damage control because the child was found in the home that afternoon by her poor father when Their officers should have found her early that morning. They Hid lots of what they did & didn't do that morning from the public & pretended there was no intruder so the media were at the family Instead. Thomas also Hid vital evidence from his superiors & others on several occasions including from the grand jury, Of Course. Only America & one other country still has a stupid grand jury system. It is unfair, unjust & doesn't work. The jurors only hear from the prosecution, who get to pick & choose what evidence is presented & which witnesses appear. There is no judge & no defence lawyers. As a consequence, the jury vote on the side of the prosecution, 99.6% of the time. The DNA Alone Proved just how Wrong the jury Were. Federal Court Judge Carne declared the Ramseys factually innocent in 2003 due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online which includes what She had to say about Cina Wong, that she had No qualifications to call herself a writing analyst. Carne was quite scathing at Steve Thomas as Well. He resigned on national TV because that was his marketing Ploy for his book of bs he went off to write, blaming Patsy because of a notepad. He had illegally taken evidence material from the BPD before his useless ass was Fired. He was sued for his book of lies & garnered Money from the public to fund his defence & then refused to get on the stand to back himself. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent. He still whines to this day, blaming Alex Hunter who was one of the few involved who had full integrity. Alex Saw all the evidence known at that time, that pointed to an intruder, the public Did Not. The DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs from 1997 til 2008, the results were - unknown male DNA & Matching from - under JB's fingernails, saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants, touch DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns. The DNA has been in CODIS since 2003. James Kolar was in the DA's office for a short time, was fired & he went off to write His book of bs for financial gain also & blamed Burke. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly in 2008 due to All the evidence known at that stage that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of & the DNA Already Cleared them All plus lots of others then & since including known paedos & John Mark Karr who said he did it. Officer Beckner also wrote a book of BS for financial gain. He at least came to some realisations down the line & publicly stated "when the owner of the DNA is found, there's your killer". Further testing in 2016 with advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on national TV & for Years? NONE. And John continued that after Patsy died & he continues still. Because of the Many dedicated private investigators who continued the search Unpaid, all is now Known & the 4 involved have been identified, 2 are dead, the BPD are holding things up. There has been so many so-called experts who came out of woodwork to find their version of fame & to make Money from this crime which Soo Many seem for Forget is About a 6 Year Old Child. There are also many pages with 'typing' as if from police files, all Fake. Then some pages with 'words' & 'letters down columns' as if Patsy wrote that, all Fake. All this is put on many vids as if from police files, they are Not. It's been over 25 years & the BS continues to go around about this case. I don't know when the autopsy photos & so much more was put online but it is there now. Y'all Really need to do some Actual Research & at the same time, find some Common Sense. It is way over time to leave this Proven Innocent family In Peace.

[@bethryan9077]

From the 1st week of 1997 til 2008, the DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs - unknown male DNA & Matching from - under JB's fingernails, saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants, touch DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & outside there. The DNA has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is Hispanic..

[@Krisnelson1969]

I hope, whoever killed Jon Benet, will face justice, if caught, and if not, I am sure this individual’s conscience will punish him.

[@JBthree24]

Looks like Linda Arndt has been right so far.

[@seanohare5488]

Or her

[@melanieannerackl7947]

I already do he cleans the carpet.

[@user-lq4nh3yo3x]

I just feel bad for the parents. That would be a nightmare for me

[@nbenefiel]

All you really need is to watch John’s face light up when he speaks of how he remembers his daughter.

[@denisesquire8648]

I agree I think the brother killed her through jealousy because jonbenet got more attention than he did and I think the parents knew about it and covered it up to protect him

[@wendynorth7477]

I agree as well.

[@bethryan9077]

Known Facts - Alarm set 5.30 a.m., the Ramseys were to get on a plane for Charlevoix. Patsy found the note, raced upstairs, found JB gone & screamed for John & could only say about a note & JB gone. He said “call the police”. It was pitch dark, no-one around & they were terrified. Patsy called the Whites & the Fernies for Help. John Fernie called their pastor for prayers & comfort. The cops called 2 victim’s advocates to come. 2 got in the kitchen door when the Ramseys went to the Whites for dinner. They had broken in before & that’s why they knew where everything was & exactly what they were going to do. About 1.30 a.m. JB was choked with the white cord & tasered on her back in bed, wrapped in 2 white blankets & carried to the boiler room. When the cord was quickly released she screamed, a neighbour heard that because of the vent in the boiler room that was at the front of the house. Fibres from the cord were found on JBs sheet & are in evidence. They ran out a side door, down to the back & waited under a pine tree then went back in. They had run into the metal ladder & it hit the cement as they ran out. That was the 'crash' noise the neighbour's husband heard. Fresh pine needles came off one of their jackets & were found in the cellar & are in evidence. She was given a lot of water in the early hours, tasered & vile acts occurred. That was not a garrotte it was a complex bondage device & made by the 17 year old who was into causing fear & used electricity. Both these factors & position & so much water is why there is so much pee staining on the front of both undergarments & near to the waistbands. The carpet & underlay were cut out due to the pee stain & are in evidence. The nylon cord was bought as it had to be a bit slippery for the purpose. The knots were intricate & specific then a certain number of ties on the wood & then the 3 loops. When that was done the rest of the cord was JB's exact height. The tip of the paintbrush was cut off, used at her privates & never found because some deviants keep trophies. That was not a paintbrush of Patsy’s. JB was given pineapple fruitcake earlier & at 5.30 a.m. She did not eat any pineapple that was in the bowl, that was part of the staging, one of many. ‘The Stomach contains a small amount (8-10cc) of viscous to green to tan coloured thick material of no particulate matter identified’. ‘The Proximal Portion (top) of the Small Intestine contains fragmented pieces of yellow to light green-tan apparent vegetable or fruit material which may represent fragments of pineapple’. Arndt was there & told the ME pineapple was in a bowl. It takes 2 hours for stomach contents to go to the top of the small intestine. In Patsy’s recorded statement June ’98, Thomas Haney told her the pineapple in the bowl was Different to the fragments in the top of the small Intestine. When Patsy called 911, JB was strangled to death in a rage on top of the dryer in the basement laundry. Cops coming meant no money. There was a phone in that laundry. The one piece of tape was put over her mouth to stop fluids getting on their clothes & she was carried to the cellar. Then 3 blows to the head, 3 weapons & each is in evidence. The 1st - a brick on the top of the head that caused the huge open fracture down the length of the skull. The 2nd - a utility knife & small stabs to the skull in a shape. The tool used was broken off & not found. The 3rd - was the end of the steel kid's ball bat & that caused the hole that the stabs started. They had planned if the cops were called. They didn't plan that Patsy would stay on the phone calling friends to come & help. That phone on the wall was in the alcove near to where they had to get out the basement door & then their exit door. Glenn Meyer was the author of the note & he organised it all for money with 3 from the house on the corner. One had a huge grudge against John in relation to a family business in Michigan. All was set up to incriminate all Ramseys if no cash was paid. Their back-up for money was the taking of photos. Many items were brought into the house & staged. Many items were taken from cupboards & drawers & staged all over the house, basement & a few things outside. Meyer was secretly living in the Barnhill's basement across the road. He got to know a great deal about the Ramseys. JB's dog was mostly kept there & the kids & Patsy were over there often. Patsy gave the Barnhills many cards, letters & notes in her print writing over the years. It is easy to copy print writing & he only had to do Some letters like hers as it was Supposed to look like she was trying to disguise hers, which is impossible to do for near 3 pages & the Real experts know that fact. From his vantage point Myer could see through both staircase windows & knew Patsy & John came down the back stairs each morning to make coffee. The note was spread out so all 3 pages would be seen, they wanted their money. The notepad was taken at the Xmas party on the 23rd. Meyer went over saying he was looking for the Barnhills worried about them ensuring he was let in. John took him to where they were sitting & he stayed. The Ramseys didn't even know who he was. JB was never to be taken from the basement. SBTC & Victory is about a plane. Joe Barnhill was a radial gunner in WW2 & flew on the SB2C, Two - T, so SBTC. That was a famous bomber plane & lauded for bringing the war to victory. Meyer had a poster of that plane on a wall in his room, Victory was on the side of the plane. There is a photo of Barnhill holding a framed picture of that plane. From the advanced forensics, the private investigators who never gave up & as happens with lots of crimes, people talk eventually & that’s why so much is now known Plus because the crime scene techs who did an excellent job & taking all the photos & videos & collecting all the DNA. The Ramseys never put one foot back in that house ever again from after JB was found & they left. The trauma was way too much, but if they Had been able to, this case would have been a Very different matter for all involved. The discoveries were everywhere if the family would have seen it all with very astute investigators. Thomas was only brought into the case 3 days after because the investigators present refused to target the Ramseys. He was an ex-narcotics officer who had Zero experience with Any murder before let alone a ransom, which was the first crime. He thought he would make a name for himself from this high profile crime. His partner was an auto-theft officer. The BPD spent their time covering up their total incompetence. They rarely had a murder & this was their first for '96. They refused help from the FBI & the CBI. They put about misinformation & leaked certain photos. That amount of money was near John's bonus for '95 & was paid to him in March '96. The amount was on his pay stubs each month of '96. The suitcase was already placed under the window & the window opened for the 2nd time after the cops left. Both done as subterfuge. Same with the fresh green leaves that were dumped at the grate & some 'caught' under it. Lou made a mistake about that window, that's all. It was never an entry point. Early that morning, 2 officers did not go in the train room door & so through to the windows & 2 failed to pull open that cellar door. There is soo much more to this case that the public don't know about. The type of air taser used has been identified. The burns on JBs back & face are from same taser. The 2nd point was under JB's ear. The burn on her face was bigger because the point was placed there more than once - control. Google the murder of Gerald Boggs ‘93 Colorado. His autopsy photo shows the Exact same burns on his face, the 2nd point was on his earlobe. Those tasers were widely used by drug dealers in the 90s. The big underpants JB was found in were put on her in the early hours. Patsy, her sister, their mother & JB went to New York Xmas shopping. Patsy bought her niece a pack of 7 underpants from Bloomingdales that were called Bloomies. They were size 12-14 & had the weekdays on the waistbands. Patsy also bought from there 2 special Barbie dolls for JB. One had her own pair of underpants also called Bloomies. JB begged her mother for the pack of 7 so she had some like her doll. Patsy gave in & they were put away for JB til she would fit into them, about 8 years away. They were put in the back of a drawer in JB's bathroom. When they got home JB went to see her dog at the Barnhills & told them about her special presents. Meyer was ever listening. JB was found in the ones that had Wednesday on the waistband. It was a Wednesday that year for Xmas Day. Access the photo of the paint tray on the carpet. Look to the left a bit at the tray & up a bit, you will see a drawing of a sinister smirking cat's face/head on the carpet, as on the note - fat cat. That was not a nightgown of JBs found in the cellar, it was a dress taken off her life-sized doll that was kept in the corner of her room, but found in the playroom standing at a window. That bowl (with pineapple) was used at the Xmas party on the 23rd & had the icing for the gingerbread houses that all the kids were given & they decorated themselves. That was a heavy bowl & that was icing not milk. There were No fingerprints on that bowl. That glass had a dried tea bag & no tea was made in that. That silver ladle in the bowl came from a cupboard near the spiral staircase & was from a boxed set of 2 that the Ramseys received as a wedding present & had never been opened. That was chosen & placed because of the filigree that was the same as the filigree on some of JB's crowns. The Ramseys were finally exonerated in 2008 due to All the evidence that showed someone was in the house, over 200 pieces of & the DNA cleared them plus lots of others then & since. It is 2021, all is known & 4 involved have been identified, 2 are dead. Justice is coming.

[@voluntaryismistheanswer]

Don't forget to report the spamming troll, it's everywhere posting the same sad copypasted drivel.

[@bethryan9077]

@@voluntaryismistheanswer No doubt You were that ugly faced bully at school who had No friends. Awww. I tell the True Facts about this case, it is Not my fault that You Don't ANY. I post Lots of replies deary & not all are copy pasted. Wah Wah Wah. BTW - You brainwashed zombies do Not Know Better than some of the best investigators in the country or the expert crime scene techs or the top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge Or the Boulder PD, who have Stated for Many Years that the Ramseys Are Innocent. Stick to your one hour made-up TV shows deary, that's the level of Your intellect. You & Vicksta make a great tag team, Hateful & Pathetic indeed. How about I report you Both for Incitement?

[@bethryan9077]

From the 1st week of 1997 til 2008, the DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs - unknown male DNA & Matching from - under JB's fingernails, saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants, touch DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & outside there. The DNA has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is Hispanic..

[@tabethaevans8140]

No way in hell they can’t tell they lying even Stevie Wonder can see that!!!

[@bethryan9077]

Very Few know that in 2003, Federal Court Judge Carne declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. And that was way back Then. All can read the 93 page document online. Besides Actual evidence talked about, Carne is scathing about Steve Thomas & Cina Wong in relation to all the BS they told about this case. And, Wong had No qualifications to call herself a writing analyst in the first place. Her vids show Fake writing on a whiteboard as If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & as If from police files, all Fake. Thomas never worked a murder case before & only cared how his hair looked for the cameras. He constantly talked about the book he was going to write. He was sued for that book of Lies but many in the public domain don’t know about That & still see him as some sort of hero & Repeat his BS. Many unscrupulous so-called ‘authors’ followed his lead & put out Their versions of BS. The Boulder PD took the note to the Secret Service & they also hired 2 Renowned private experts, all 4 said No Ramsey wrote the note. Of course, that was Before Steve Thomas set his sites on his delusions of grandeur & blamed Patsy because of a notepad. He was sued for all his lies & lost every cent. In his desperation for fame & $$, he hadn’t found out/been Told about the Second severe fraction to JB’s skull, being a Hole. Besides many of the other gross injuries & sadistic acts to her person, in one word - Torture, that he Dismissed. I suppose he looked good for TV though. Alex Hunter was one of the few who had full Integrity, Lou Smit was another. These men Saw all the evidence known about in those early stages, the public & the grand jury Did Not. From the 1st week of 1997 til 2008, the DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs - unknown male DNA & Matching from - under JB's fingernails, saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants, touch DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & outside there. The DNA has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. That DNA continued to Clear people & Still. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, Over 200 pieces of Plus the DNA that had already Cleared them all & Lots of others including known pedos & John Mark Karr who said he did it. Further testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns. One is hispanic, the other was a white guy with fair hair. He was Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard when they left. Another vital Fact that has been swept under the rug because so many ‘authors’ jumped on the bandwagon & wrote books of BS for Financial Gain. All that false & misleading information, transferred to TV for the Same reason. And so, onto Utube ‘shows’. The brainwashing of the public began a long time ago. It’s now 2022 & because of the many dedicated investigators who continued the search Unpaid, all is now known & the 4 involved have been identified, 2 are dead, the BPD are holding things up Who would Write a ransom note on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For the Cops? There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That!

[@bethryan9077]

The Ramseys were Officially Exonerated a Long time ago with a mountain of Actual Evidence & by Real experts, including Forensic Scientists. Just because you don’t Know about that evidence, does Not Mean that it doesn’t exist. The DNA from an unknown male has been in CODIS since 2003. Give the FBI a call. Clearly you people need to Learn what DNA is About. You have been watching TV for over 25 Years & you Choose to believe it All, as long as it’s Against - the Ramseys. You don’t care which one, Or, you decide on all 3. Yet, you don’t even know about ANY Actual Evidence. Shame on every one of You. This case - Has Never Been To Trial & so, You have Never Seen the Case Evidence. What sort of people say all they do about this Very Kind family, when you have Never even Seen Any of the Evidence about the Crime? Loads of you even Demean this murdered little girl also & since 2016, her 9 year old brother too, because of a Bogus TV ‘show’ that was put out by a pack of Con Artists. Burke was Never even a suspect & was interviewed That afternoon when he was still at the Whites by detective Patterson, Neither parent was present, Nor did they know that was happening. Patterson spoke Publicly after that BS ‘show’ & said Burke knew Nothing & was Very worried that his sister was still missing. None of you even Know what was Actually perpetrated upon JonBenet, nor do you Care to Find Out, because you’re all too busy spouting all your hateful Garbage about a case that You Know Nothing About & At a fine Upstanding family who Didn’t Do A Damn Thing & who, In Fact, were Victims.. Soo many down the threads, all sites, are an Absolute Disgrace & that’s just another True Fact. Soo many people say 'it doesn't add up'. But soo many people, Don't Know Any True Facts about - Anything & so, you are Not in the position to say - that it doesn't add up. You saw a few photos & think you know it all - pineapple in a bowl, flashlight on a bench, cord on a stick, writing on some pages - thank goodness you didn’t get to see More photos. LOL. All Ramseys were Proven Innocent with a mountain of Actual evidence & eventually by a bunch of Seasoned Experts, including Forensic Scientists. All those under the umbrella of Law Enforcement who Saw 'Facts In Evidence' which Included the autopsy photos, the photo of the skull & the Authentic autopsy report. . . Until this case is brought to trial for criminal proceedings, the general public will Never get to know the True Facts about this case. Unless you start some Actual Research online, but that takes a whole lot of hard slog & one needs some experience just to tell the difference between a fake document & an authentic one. The vids are Still full of False & Misleading information whether old TV programmes or new Utube 'shows' & both show Fake pages put up on the screen As If from police files, the Same False & misleading information in soo many books. All of this BS has been going around for Over 25 years & counting. People need to wake up to themselves. Obviously too many in the public domain believe all that they read in trashy magazines too.

[@bethryan9077]

This is the problem for all those like Yourself - you don't know a Damn Thing about the crime, the case Or about what was Actually perpetrated upon this poor Child. The Authorities Plus Forensic Scientists, Proved Intruders Were in That house. The public are still back in the Old Days, you all need to Catch Up, it is Not still 1996, 1997, 1998. Expert investigators Continued Working This Case. Soo many in the public domain are stuck in a friggin Time Warp. The False & misleading information that is Still being portrayed on Most of the vids on Utube, is the Same False & Misleading information that media & books put out from Way Back Then. Wake Up America! Go do some Actual Research. Learn about the Actual evidence. You people have seen a few photos - pineapple in a bowl, flashlight on a bench, cord on a stick, writing on some pages. That is Not Evidence & most certainly Nothing to do with Evidence of Murder. Thank goodness you people didn't get to see More photos. LOL. FYI - there were Hundreds. Someone made a TV 'show' & told you all those items were evidence about the Ramseys & Burke, they Were Not. You have All been Hoodwinked. The ONLY piece that you people know about that Can be classed as evidence, is the notepad. THAT Was Used to Commit this crime. That Did come from the house. There is No Other Evidence From That House, that was Used To Commit This Crime. So what have you people got? Never ending stupid Crap that you all post, that Also has Nothing to do with the Murder of This Child. Access the autopsy photos that are online, they are shoulders up only. Have a good look at the burn on this child's cheek & the cord left embedded in her neck. There were also abrasions at the base of her neck from that cord, from earlier vile acts with that Bondage Device. That was Not a garrotte. Some Idiot thought that Word looked good for a Headline & in a Book, because of that One Photo. A garrotte has Two handles to work, Not One. Source the Photo of the Whole thing. What I have Already told you about That, is the True Facts. The Authentic autopsy report States about the rust coloured marks at each temple & the same rust coloured marks on the back of one leg. Crime scene photos Show the rusty log grabber in the Cellar. The authentic autopsy report can be found online, the 1st page has the symbol/emblem for Boulder County- That flashlight was Not a weapon used & that did Not belong to the Ramseys. The authentic autopsy report Proves JB did Not eat Any of that pineapple, Forensics Proved That. Patsy did Not write that note, the Experts Proved That & the Writing was Not the Only factor that Proved That, She Did NOT. Glenn Meyer took the notepad when he invited himself to their Xmas party on the 23rd, Simple as That. He organised this crime for Money, his 3 cohorts turned into something else. This was a very, Very well Planned crime for money & revenge. There are Many reasons why kidnapping has always been a rare crime. One has to take the time to Think about Why that is a Fact. The plan - JB was Never to be taken from that basement. It was always going to be 50/50 if the cops were called & they didn’t get that quick cash. They sure didn’t go to so much trouble & such high risk for Nothing. The taking of photos was their back-up for money. True Crime for a great many, is way too much to Fathom when you don’t know about the True Facts. The Ramseys were Officially Exonerated a Long time ago with a mountain of Actual Evidence & by Real experts, including Forensic Scientists. Just because you don’t Know about that evidence, does Not Mean that it doesn’t exist. The DNA from an unknown male has been in CODIS since 2003. Give the FBI a call. Clearly you people need to Learn what DNA is About. You have been watching TV for over 25 Years & you Choose to believe it All, as long as it’s Against - the Ramseys. You don’t care which one, Or, you decide on all 3. Yet, you don’t even know about ANY Actual Evidence. Shame on every one of You. This case - Has Never Been To Trial & so, You have Never Seen the Case Evidence. What sort of people say all they do about this Very Kind family, when you have Never even Seen Any of the Evidence about the Crime? Loads of you even Demean this murdered little girl also & since 2016, her 9 year old brother too, because of a Bogus TV ‘show’ that was put out by a pack of Con Artists. Burke was Never even a suspect & was interviewed That afternoon when he was still at the Whites by detective Patterson, Neither parent was present, Nor did they know that was happening. Patterson spoke Publicly after that BS ‘show’ & said Burke knew Nothing & was Very worried that his sister was still missing. None of you even Know what was Actually perpetrated upon JonBenet, nor do you Care to Find Out, because you’re all too busy spouting all your hateful Garbage about a case that You Know Nothing About & At a fine Upstanding family who Didn’t Do A Damn Thing & who, In Fact, were Victims.. Soo many down the threads, all sites, are an Absolute Disgrace & that’s just another True Fact. A great many people say that 'it doesn't add up'. But, soo many people, Don't Know Any True Facts about - Anything & so, you are Not in the position to say - that it doesn't add up. All Ramseys were Proven Innocent with a mountain of Actual evidence & eventually by a bunch of Seasoned Experts, including Forensic Scientists. All those under the umbrella of Law Enforcement who Saw 'Facts In Evidence' which Included the autopsy photos, the photo of the skull & the Authentic autopsy report. . . Until this case is brought to trial for criminal proceedings, the general public will Never get to know the True Facts about this case. Unless you start some Actual Research online, but that takes a whole lot of hard slog & one needs some experience just to tell the difference between a fake document & an authentic one. The vids are Still full of False & Misleading information whether old TV programmes or new Utube 'shows' & both show Fake pages put up on the screen As If from police files, the Same False & misleading information in soo many books. All of this BS has been going around for Over 25 years & counting. People need to wake up to themselves. Obviously too many in the public domain believe all that they read in trashy magazines too.

[@bethryan9077]

The Present officers had No problems believing the Ramseys were genuine & Linda Arndt wrote a Favourable report about the Ramseys to the BPD & said their behaviour was appropriate to the circumstances. The media went into a frenzy because the body was found in the house & they considered that to have been on Arndt's watch. She arrived at 8.10 a.m. with detective Patterson. It was actually Her who moved the body to the living room. Eight cops & detectives arrived at various times that morning. It was the Cops who should have found JB early that morning, Not her poor father that afternoon. The BPD then went into damage control to save their Own asses & so the BS began. Arndt was put on desk duties, didn’t like what was going on in the office & was gone by May. Her next job was as a tree lopper. Many today believe Arndt was the only officer at the house all day when That is not true either. Next - she had great acting lessons for that Performance on national TV because she was after a book deal Too. She tried to sue the BPD for Money, but lost the case. Her report to the BPD was in the public domain & so, she was Caught as a Liar & later retracted all she said in that abysmal interview. Somewhere along the line she had Regret at least & when Patsy was dying, Arndt went to see her & apologised for all she had said for the TV audience & vowed to help find the killer. Lying loon Arndt knew Full Well the note said Tomorrow. The Ramseys gave the cops free reign to their house from the minute officer French walked in the door because they had Nothing To Hide. They spoke to the cops & detectives in total for Hours that morning & after JB was found. Burke was interviewed when still at the Whites at 2 p.m. by detective Patterson, Neither parent was present, nor did they know that was happening. John spoke with the Ds that night, Patsy was bedridden by then. Arndt asked John for them to go to the PD on the 28th. The Ramseys had already witnessed how inept the cops Were & John hired a private investigator straight away. They gave the required samples & John spoke to the Ds for 2 hours again that day. Steve Thomas was brought in because the present investigators refused to target the Ramseys. Thomas had Zero experience with Any murder case before & thought he would make a name for himself from the high profile crime. His partner was an auto-theft officer. The BPD rarely had a murder & this was the first for '96. The next 2 up the ladder had No experience with homicide Either. The BPD refused help from the FBI & the CBI. The present investigators had No problems believing the Ramseys were genuine that day. Then the body was found in the house when the Cops should have found her early that morning & the BPD went into damage control & so, the BS Began. False & misleading information was already being leaked to the media. The Ramseys were told they were being targeted & advised to get lawyers. Very sound advice & the Right of All citizens. The talk was through the lawyers then, That's how it Goes. John went on to hire 3 more private investigators. What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on national TV & for Years? NONE. And John continued that after Patsy died. He & John Andrew continue Still. You people know Nothing about this crime & know nothing True about this case. Most of you don't even Know what Actually happened to JB. The Ramseys were Proven Innocent a long time ago, it is way over time to leave the family In Peace.. Patsy was using the Wall phone that was near the kitchen. In the Real recording of that call, Patsy hanging up the handset on the cradle is Clearly heard - CLICK. IF the cops Actually had Any Ramseys in the background because Patsy didn’t hang up, the recording would have been played til the end & all would have heard CLICK. And, Steve Thomas refused to have that call forensically sound tested. Funny that. It was before 6 a.m., pitch dark outside, no-one around & they were terrified. Who would know how long the cops would take to get there. After that Desperate 911 call, Patsy called the Whites, the Fernies & Mrs Stine - For Help. Mrs Stine couldn’t come. Mr Fernie later called their pastor for prayers & comfort, it was going to be a long wait, the note said Tomorrow. The cops called 2 victim’s advocates to come. 8 cops & detectives arrived at various times that morning, Nobody was looking for JB, it was a Ransom note. Except for Arndt, all cops were gone by 10.30 a.m. John did Not go straight to the cellar. He & Fleet White were checking out the broken window, looking for any glass at all. They had checked the 2 cupboards in that co-joined room first. The cellar was the next room at that end of the basement. John had Presumed the cops down the basement that morning had checked out that broken window early that morning. He was to find out later that the cops hadn't gone through the train room door & so to those windows. The cops didn't know about that broken window til they went back that evening. That's Why the 'famous' photo of the opened window was taken in the Night. The cops have always kept That info from the public. The same cops, also failed to flip the latch down on the top of door jamb of the cellar door & pull that door open, they just walked away. Officer Veitch went around the exterior when still dark that morning with his flashlight, he failed to those same windows under the grate. Reichenbach went around the exterior later when light, he too failed to see those windows. That broken window is Not where the perps got into the house, but That is Not the point. Steve Thomas continually said that John had lied about getting in that window when he locked himself out of the house, even though the housekeeper had vacuumed up the broken glass there 2 times. Thomas nor any other cop Ever tried to climb in there. Months later, it took Lou Smit to Demonstrate, that was True.

[@misssunshine7650]

@@bethryan9077 you again.. unbelievable..

[@maryjocassell48]

I bet if the Ramseys were Walmart cashiers they wouldve been treated the same way by law enforcement 😂

[@nbenefiel]

As there was no evidence to charge them with, I find the claims of bribery and corruption to be patently unfair. The Boulder PD was incompetent but not corrupt, except for people like Steve Thomas who was telling lies about the evidence in order to make a buck.

[@AnaAlvarez-fu6yp]

The mom wearing the same clothes twice really caught my eye. She was all about her image .. it’s weird. She changed her daughter and didn’t have a night gown she slept in. Idk I find it hard to believe she put the same clothes on.

[@bethryan9077]

Patsy liked to wear red for Xmas & bought a new red sweater that had baubles on it. She wore that to the White's Xmas dinner & a pair of black velvet pants. They were up so early on the 26th because they were heading to their holiday house in Charlevoix & that had everything there that they needed. They were to meet John Andrew, Melinda & her boyfriend at Minneapolis airport & all flying on to that house for a 2nd Xmas gift-giving. No doubt she wanted to show off her Xmassy sweater again & threw that on with the same pants, re-did her make-up & was ready to go when she went down the stairs. She was planning on having a bath when they got there after the long flight. People don't realise how Huge that mansion was. From the photos of the front of the house it looks like a double storey home. From the extensive renovations, that was a 3 storey mansion plus the basement that had multiple rooms. The parent's bedroom suite was the 3rd storey. The other bedrooms were on the 2nd storey & then the living areas - 1st storey & the exit through the mud room to the garage. The butler’s kitchen was a different section again. Because of the distance plus 2 flights of stairs, Patsy was usually dressed when she went downstairs to make coffee, any day. Maybe you don't have kids. JB was sound asleep when Patsy put her to bed so she just took off her vest & long pants, leaving the long-sleeved shirt on her & then she only had to pull up the long-johns on her.

[@bethryan9077]

The Ramseys were Officially Exonerated a Long time ago with a mountain of Actual Evidence & by Real experts, including Forensic Scientists. Just because you don’t Know about that evidence, does Not Mean that it doesn’t exist. The DNA from an unknown male has been in CODIS since 2003. Give the FBI a call. Clearly you people need to Learn what DNA is About. You have been watching TV for over 25 Years & you Choose to believe it All, as long as it’s Against - the Ramseys. You don’t care which one, Or, you decide on all 3. Yet, you don’t even know about ANY Actual Evidence. Shame on every one of You. This case - Has Never Been To Trial & so, You have Never Seen the Case Evidence. What sort of people say all they do about this Very Kind family, when you have Never even Seen Any of the Evidence about the Crime? Loads of you even Demean this murdered little girl also & since 2016, her 9 year old brother too, because of a Bogus TV ‘show’ that was put out by a pack of Con Artists. Burke was Never even a suspect & was interviewed That afternoon when he was still at the Whites by detective Patterson, Neither parent was present, Nor did they know that was happening. Patterson spoke Publicly after that BS ‘show’ & said Burke knew Nothing & was Very worried that his sister was still missing. None of you even Know what was Actually perpetrated upon JonBenet, nor do you Care to Find Out, because you’re all too busy spouting all your hateful Garbage about a case that You Know Nothing About & At a fine Upstanding family who Didn’t Do A Damn Thing & who, In Fact, were Victims.. Soo many down the threads, all sites, are an Absolute Disgrace & that’s just another True Fact. Soo many people say 'it doesn't add up'. But soo many people, Don't Know Any True Facts about - Anything & so, you are Not in the position to say - that it doesn't add up. You saw a few photos & think you know it all - pineapple in a bowl, flashlight on a bench, cord on a stick, writing on some pages - thank goodness you didn’t get to see More photos. LOL. All Ramseys were Proven Innocent with a mountain of Actual evidence & eventually by a bunch of Seasoned Experts, including Forensic Scientists. All those under the umbrella of Law Enforcement who Saw 'Facts In Evidence' which Included the autopsy photos, the photo of the skull & the Authentic autopsy report. . . Until this case is brought to trial for criminal proceedings, the general public will Never get to know the True Facts about this case. Unless you start some Actual Research online, but that takes a whole lot of hard slog & one needs some experience just to tell the difference between a fake document & an authentic one. The vids are Still full of False & Misleading information whether old TV programmes or new Utube 'shows' & both show Fake pages put up on the screen As If from police files, the Same False & misleading information in soo many books. All of this BS has been going around for Over 25 years & counting. People need to wake up to themselves. Obviously too many in the public domain believe all that they read in trashy magazines too

[@nbenefiel]

Patsy’s Christmas sweater was brand new. She had worn it to the White’s Christmas party the night before. She put it on again that morning for the planned flight to Minneapolis and Charlevoix. It was both festive and comfortable. Stop making mountains out of molehills.

[@AnaAlvarez-fu6yp]

What about Mrs. Maxwell anyone recall her being at one of her pageants

[@keithstringer1140]

It’s hard not to see that the Ramsey’s were complicit in a coverup of JBR’s death if these facts are true.

[@bethryan9077]

The BPD took the note to the Secret Service & they also hired 2 Renowned private experts, all 4 said No Ramsey wrote the note. The Ramsey’s attorneys also hired 2 of the best in the country & both said the same. **From the 1st week of 1997 til 2007, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under JB’s fingernails - unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas & his cronies kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months. The same Steve Thomas who later went on to Pretend that he was lead detective & he still does. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but Never tested. Steve Thomas constantly talked about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury was to convene that more DNA tests were ordered. The blood was JBs & Same unknown male DNA - saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. The BPD were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD, whose officers Should have found JB early that morning though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they Failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. The broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point. Only America & one other country still has a stupid grand jury system. It is unfair, unjust & doesn't work. The jurors only hear from the prosecution, who get to pick & choose what evidence is presented & which witnesses appear. There is no judge, no defence lawyers & unless subpoenaed by the prosecution - No experts to rebut Whatever is presented. As a consequence, the jury vote on the side of the prosecution 98.6% of the time. And the BPD withheld a great deal of vital evidence. The vote was never for murder. John & Patsy never received subpoenas to appear & so they were prevented from testifying. They wrote to Governor Owens about this & he didn’t even reply. Unlike the jury, the general public & the media, the DA Saw all the evidence known about at that time as did Lou Smit, one of the best investigators in the country. Less than half the States, still have this abysmal grand jury system. The DNA alone Proved just how Wrong the jury Were. The investigators Present refused to target the Ramseys but Unfortunately Steve Thomas was brought into the case 3 days later & his goal was to make a name for himself. 18 months later he illegally took evidence material from the BPD & resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, that was the precursor for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That also. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his Story. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent of the hundreds of thousands of dollars he made from that book. The investigation Continued along with a bevy of private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another. What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on national TV & for Years? NONE. The Ramseys continued that til Patsy died in 2006 & John continued the same & does to this day. Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolfe vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carne got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carne declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his integrity as a police officer & all his BS in that book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He did That to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carne was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with writing ‘samples’ As If Patsy’s, it’s all Fake. The public have Never seen Patsy’s writing. The Ramseys & Loads of others. who included known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA a Long time ago. The DNA from that unknown male was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - Same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & the outside there. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of Plus the DNA from the unknown male, that had also cleared John Mark Karr who said he did it. Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the White’s Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push This vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the BS continues. James Kolar was in the office of the DA, Mary Lacy, for a very short time & was Fired. He also ran off to write His book of BS & blamed Burke because he needed new fodder. His ‘Story’ was so ludicrous, no publisher would touch it. He had to pay to self-publish & to very poor sales. He was & still is, just Another con artist & Proven Liar. Then CBS heard the sound of Kerching. N.B. Who would Write a ransom note on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The Cops? There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That! Mark Beckner eventually found some integrity & publicly stated “when the owner of the DNA is found, there’s your killer”. The public need to understand that this case hasn’t been to Trial yet & so - You Know Nothing True About This Crime, The Case Or About What Was Actually Perpetrated Upon This Poor Child. BTW - Burke, Was Never Even A Suspect. The bits you Think You Know about this crime - Are NOT True. *You all need to get this Very Clear - You Do Not Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years have Also stated that the Ramseys - Are Innocent. **The BPD have issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022.

[@bethryan9077]

The Present officers had No problems believing the Ramseys were genuine & Linda Arndt wrote a Favourable report about the Ramseys & said their behaviour was appropriate to the circumstances. The media went into a frenzy because the body was found in the house & they considered that to have been on Arndt's watch. She arrived at 8.10 a.m. with detective Patterson. It was actually Her who moved the body to the living room. Eight cops & detectives arrived at various times that morning, Nobody was looking for JB, it was a Ransom Note. It was the Cops who should have found JB early that morning, Not her poor father that afternoon. The BPD then went into damage control to save their Own asses & so the BS began. Arndt was put on desk duties, didn’t like what was going on in the office & was gone by May. Her next job was as a tree lopper. Many today still believe that Arndt was the only officer at the house all day when That is not true either, she was on her own from 10.30 a.m. Next - she had great acting lessons for that Performance on national TV because she was after a book deal Too. Next - she tried to sue the BPD for Money, but lost the case. Her report to the BPD was in the public domain & so, she was Caught as a Liar & later retracted all she said in that abysmal interview. Somewhere along the line she had Regret at least & when Patsy was dying, Arndt went to see her & apologised for all she had said for the TV audience & vowed to help find the killer. BTW - Lying loon Arndt knew Full Well the note said Tomorrow but deliberately didn’t mention That in her interview on TV. The Ramseys gave the cops free reign to their house from the minute officer French walked in the door just before 6 a.m. because they had Nothing To Hide. They spoke to the cops & detectives in total, for Hours that morning & after JB was found. Burke was interviewed when still at the Whites at 2 p.m. by detective Patterson, Neither parent was present, nor did they know that was happening. John spoke with the Ds that night, Patsy was bedridden by then. Arndt asked John for them to go to the PD on the 28th. The Ramseys had already witnessed how inept the cops Were & John hired a private investigator straight away. All Ramseys gave the required samples & John spoke to the Ds for 2 hours again that day. He asked Eller to speak to Patsy at the house where they were staying because she was so ill & medicated, Eller refused to do that. Steve Thomas was brought in because the Present investigators refused to target the Ramseys. Thomas had Zero experience with Any murder case before & thought he would make a name for himself from this high profile crime & later dubbed himself as lead detective when he was Not. His partner was an auto-theft officer. The BPD rarely had a murder & this was the first for '96. The next 2 up the ladder had No experience with homicide Either. The BPD refused help from the FBI, the CBI & the Denver PD. The present investigators had no concerns about deception but Then the body was found in the house when the Cops should have found her early that morning & the BPD went into damage control & so, the BS Began. False & misleading information was already being leaked to the media. The Ramseys were told they were being targeted & advised to get lawyers. Very sound advice & the Right of All citizens. The talk was through the lawyers then, That's how it Goes. John went on to hire 3 more private investigators. What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on national TV & for Years? NONE. And John continued that after Patsy died. He & John Andrew continue Still. The general public know Nothing about this crime & know nothing True about this case. Most don't even Know what Actually happened to JB. The Ramseys were Proven Innocent a long time ago, it is way over time to leave the family In Peace. Patsy was using the Wall phone that was near the kitchen. In the Real recording of that call, Patsy hanging up the handset on the cradle is Clearly heard - CLICK. IF the cops Actually had Any Ramseys in the background because Patsy didn’t hang up, the recording would have been played til the end & all would have heard CLICK. And, Steve Thomas refused to have that call forensically sound tested. Funny that. It was before 6 a.m., pitch dark outside, no-one around & they were terrified. Who would know how long the cops would take to get there. After that Desperate 911 call, Patsy called the Whites, the Fernies - for Help. Mrs Stine too but she couldn’t come. John Fernie later called their pastor for prayers & comfort, it was going to be a long wait, the note said Tomorrow. The cops called 2 victim’s advocates to come. 8 cops & detectives arrived at various times that morning, Nobody was looking for JB, it was a Ransom note. John did Not go straight to the cellar. He & Fleet White were checking out the broken window, looking for any glass at all. They had checked the 2 cupboards in that co-joined room first. The cellar was the next room at that end of the basement, that’s all. John had Presumed the cops down the basement that morning had checked out that broken window early that morning. He was to find out later that the cops hadn't gone through the train room door & so to those windows. The cops didn't know about that broken window til they went back that evening. That's Why the 'famous' photo of the open window was taken in the Night. The cops have always kept That info Hidden from the public As Well The same cops, also failed to flip the latch down on the top of door jamb of the cellar door & pull that door open, they just walked away. Officer Veitch went around the exterior when still dark that morning with his flashlight, he failed to see those same windows that could be accessed under the grate. Reichenbach went around the exterior also, he too failed to see those windows. He reported to the 2 detectives, when all 3 were sitting in the car at the supermarket carpark, that there was no forced entry yet he hadn’t checked the Double door near the kitchen either. That broken window is Not where the perps got into the house, but That is Not the point. Steve Thomas & the other keystone cops continually said that John had lied about getting in that window when he locked himself out of the house in the summer, even though the housekeeper had vacuumed up the broken glass there 2 times. Thomas nor any other cop Ever tried to climb in there. Down the track, it took Lou Smit to Demonstrate, that John Could fit through there & so what he said about that was Also True. There were Fresh green leaves dumped at that grate & some ‘caught’ under the edge of it that was farthest from the window side, as If someone had lifted the grate & then when putting it back down, leaves were caught under there. Thomas the Twit said in his book of BS, that the greenery was Foliage & what was Under the Edge of the grate that Sat on the brickwork, had Grown Under It. Jeeez. One just needs to see the crime scene Photos taken of that area & all around the exterior, to See that there is No Other Leaves Or ‘Foliage’, let alone Green & the gardener had been recently & everything was Clear & Cleaned Up. That will give the people some idea of the level of the Intellect of just one of the so-called ‘investigators’ on this case.

[@biscuitcase83]

​@@bethryan9077Why are you everywhere on here insisting you know they are innocent? The ransom note was in PATSY'S handwriting. The ransom note is BS Who writes a ransom note when the child is already dead and hadn't even left the house? I'm not really that up to speed on the people who so adamantly defend these parents. But I've had many interactions with similar types concerning the case of Madeleine McCann. You all sound the same Come

[@bethryan9077]

@@biscuitcase83 It is a very well known Fact that they were Proven Innocent deary, with a mountain of Actual evidence & by a bunch of Actual experts under the umbrella of Law Enforcement, who included expert Seasoned investigators, expert Crime Scene techs & expert DNA & forensic Scientists. For normal intelligent people who have plain old Common Sense, it was Always obvious that they never harmed their child. The note was Not in Patsy's handwriting & you have Never SEEN Patsy's handwriting. To say that the note was written After the death of the child just shows the level of the brainwashing & the Intellect of all you highly ignorant Ramsey bashers. Umm, there is Nothing to say that Maddie is deceased deary, so all the BS told about Her poor parents is Moot. I deal with Loads of those like Yourself on a daily basis & it's a loathsome exercise indeed, to say the least, with you all repeating the same old stupidass shit like a pack of old parrots at the friggin Zoo. .

[@nbenefiel]

I know they are innocent as well. All the evidence proves their innocence.

[@jengarcia1381]

The brother killed her and the parents are just staying silent to cover up for him

[@stacey4u2luv]

That is why they lied and said he was asleep and never woke up with all the noise in the house. His voice was heard in the back ground of the recording after they had it enhanced.

[@nbenefiel]

No 9 year old raped JonBenet, created that garrote and then tightened and loosened it around her neck, cutting deep into her skin, slowly killing her. This was done by one very sick adult man. I doubt she was either the first or last victim.

[@nbenefiel]

@@stacey4u2luvWhat noise? The police arrived shortly after 6 am. By 7 am, Burke was up, dressed and at the White’s house. Burke’s room was at the other side of the second floor. He would not have heard anything.

[@sabrinambayi3702]

what a sad story she really didn't deserve this poor child I remembered that I was 15 years old and I was in England in school and I was in my R.E lessons religion study and I discovered this story in a hello magazines I was so in shock it took me years to get over it not to be that sad any more like I use to but just learn how to live with it.does any body knows the name of this song please at the beginning please thank you

[@melanieannerackl7947]

You can have whatever you want

[@MsDisneylandlover]

Only the Lord knows what to that lil girl.

[@motorsportmoments]

The entire department should have been investigated for tampering with crime scene evidence and destroying crime scene evidence. The moment they arrived everyone should’ve been kicked out of the house and the house should’ve been closed off to anybody that’s not a detective or police officer. Pictures should’ve been taken and the entire house should’ve been searched. The fact they missed the girl on the first go-around shows they didn’t check hard enough. If they missed the girl on the first time around who knows what else they missed and what lingered in the kitchen before it got cleaned. God knows the kitchen could’ve been what solved this case 25 years ago. For the pineapple, that’s the only baffling thing about the case. If nobody fed her pineapple who did? Fingerprint say the mother gave pineapple but she said she didn’t. Since they have been cleared by DNA evidence why would she lie? Heat of the moment? I don’t think so. The mother knows something or is guilty of something. This case will hopefully be solved with new technology advancements but the police department that investigated the case 25 years ago fucked it hard. I don’t blame people for quitting on the case. I probably would’ve quit too if the investigating department was incapable of handling any type of investigation. I feel like the pineapple is a key piece of evidence but no one saw it as that. the pineapple was her last meal and I think the mother gave her one last meal kind of like how death row does it. Somebody knows something, The person who knows something might be dead by now but somebody knew something that was in that house. Maybe even multiple people. People should’ve not entered that house and they absolutely should’ve not cleaned the kitchen. Terrible police work.

[@bethryan9077]

Officer Weiss Was there taking photos & Barklow was dusting for fingerprints. 6 cops & 2 detectives arrived at various times that morning, no-one was searching for JB. I don't know why some people say the kitchen was cleaned, it wasn't & the before & after photos prove that. There were no fingerprints on the bowl. JB didn't eat Any of that fresh pineapple. All items on the table were staged by the perps. Patsy didn't know anything. Because of the many dedicated private investigators who continued the search, all is now known & the 4 involved have been identified, 2 are dead, the BPD are holding things up.

[@motorsportmoments]

@@bethryan9077 after they found the pineapple in JonBenét’s stomach fingerprints were run on the bowl and spoon. They found Burk’s and Patsy’s fingerprints on it. That’s why one of the Burk theories was created with them fighting over the pineapple and Burk hitting JonBenét over it. Again these are all just theories and the kitchen was slightly cleaned, not entirely but things were touched and people walked around. Everyone should’ve been taken out of the house though as soon as police arrived and absolutely no one should’ve entered that house that shouldn’t be in the house anyway. The reason why no one found JonBenét is because no one ever checked the wine cellar. For whatever reason, police never searched the wine cellar, if the police searched the wine cellar before John and Fleet did, the case probably would be closer to being solved than it is today. Since the party was moved and the blanket was placed over her in the living room it contaminated her entire body added unnecessary fingerprints.

[@bethryan9077]

@@motorsportmoments Again, there was No pineapple in JB's stomach & the Authentic autopsy report Proves that Fact. That report can be found online & the 1st page has the symbol for Colorado & the phone number & address under the title for the Boulder Coroner's office. The statement with Patsy & cops of '98 Also Prove that fact. Do some research, what is in Anyone's stomach is unidentifiable matter. There were No fingerprints on the bowl Or the spoon. In the police statement with Patsy of '97, that is Also Proven. There are many Fake pages put on screen on vids as if they are from police files, most are Fake. One has to know how to tell the difference but as I have said, police statements & many other Authentic documents online, outline Plenty of the Factual information. Even If there Were prints on the bowl Or anywhere else, that means Nothing. People make such a big deal out of 'prints on the bowl'. lol. What does That Prove anyway? They Lived There. Why would they lie about pineapple? IF JB Did Have pineapple, that Proves Nothing. Wouldn't it all have been easier & soo much Better for them to say "oh, I forgot, with all the shock, I did put pineapple in the bowl". And that was freshly cut pineapple, no top, core or rind was found Anywhere & Patsy Didn't Buy Any. Y'all been so brainwashed with all the BS you people don't Think. Who created that Ridiculous 'theory' about Burke? Oh I Know, an asswipe after Money, James Kolar - Proven Liar. The problem for the public is that you don't know all that happened to the poor child & y'all don't know much at all in general about this case, nothing True. All can access the autopsy photos online plus the photos of the skull. JB had Two severe fractures to the skull - one down the Length & it was Open & the other was a Hole. It is Impossible for both of those fractures to occur from a bonk on the head with Any weapon. It is a Fact that If Either of the fractures occurred Before death, the skull would have been filled with blood, it Wasn't. It is a Fact that JB was Never unconscious. There were dig marks from her nails in her skin at the White Cord because she was fighting for her life when strangled To Death. The 3 blows to the head were just After, 3 weapons & None were that flashlight. The overkill was Also pre-planned, the Same as the whole of this very Very well Planned crime for money. The photos Clearly show the cord left Embedded in the neck. From the position of the cord on the front of the neck & the gold necklace caught at the bottom of the cord at the front of the neck, Prove that JB was on her Back when strangled to death. That Also Means she was looking Up at the person doing That. Her gold cross on the necklace was turned to the back. There were 6 cops & 2 detectives who arrived that morning at various times. The cops called 2 victim's advocates to come. Who would know how long cops would take to arrive & it was before 6 a.m., pitch dark, no-one around & John & Patsy were terrified. She called the Whites & the Fernies for Help. John Fernie later called their pastor for prayers & comfort, it was going to be a long wait, the note said Tomorrow. The cops Allowed those people there & they were in the den & the sunroom only. Officer Weiss was there taking photos & Barklow was dusting for fingerprints, by 10.30 a.m., except for Arndt, all cops were gone. You can insist that the kitchen was cleaned but that is Not true & I have told you already that the before & after Photos Prove that. Officer French stood in front of the cellar door & there was a latch at the top on the door jam, but he couldn't flick the latch down & so pull open the door & he walked away. If French Had forced that latch down & pulled that door open, the perps would have attacked him & they probably would have killed him too. Oh Come On, John only did what Any normal father would have done, he raced upstairs with the body hoping she could be saved. And, it was only a blanket, big deal. He was trying to Protect her Mother from Seeing the poor child like that. What unnecessary fingerprints? John & Patsy Lived with JB, all that you people Think is CSI show gold, is Moot. BTW - in loads of crime scene scenarios, people walk in, touch things, move things, touch the body, check the body, roll the body over, perform CPR, lay a sheet or cover over the body etc etc etc. You people Really need to stop Thinking that you're all crime scene experts, it's just stupid.

[@motorsportmoments]

@@bethryan9077 “you people really need to stop thinking you’re all crime scene experts.” Hard to believe but some of us are crime scene experts. Criminalistics and crime scene investigation are both college degrees. The pineapple found in her stomach wasn’t confirmed pineapple but it was close enough where they called it pineapple. The position of that fruit in her stomach means it was not the last meal and she most like had that during the Christmas party. That would explain why both John and Patsy didn’t remember feeding pineapple. For the fingerprints, it was Burke’s bowl of pineapple. Burke ate the pineapple and Pasty prepared for him the previous day. Regardless of whether he ate that before the Christmas party (at the whites) or after doesn’t mean anything. That bowl of pineapple doesn’t decide the crime scene. For the crime scene photos, that is what decides the crime scene. JonBenét was strangled and hit over the head after she died. How do I know this? The blood on her neck was red but the blood on her head was white. If the hit came first like Boulder tried to say, the blood would have been red. Lou Smit was probably the closest to solving it but sadly he died in 2010 due to cancer. He left a spreadsheet with his granddaughters and said “the killers name is on that list.” For what happened in that house, it’s just he said, she said because no one had CCTV or body cameras. What John did was head of the moment because he’s not criminalistics. He won’t understand contaminating crime scenes. The only people there that should understand crime scene contamination are the police officers. The police officers on scene should’ve removed everyone from the house and let criminalistics take over. If everyone was removed from the house back in the morning police officers and criminalistics would’ve found the girl when they did a thorough search. At one point there would’ve been a deeper search through the house. If everyone was cleared from the house JonBenét would’ve been found probably around 3 or 4 when criminalistics would’ve arrived. Obviously things got sped up once the body was found at 1:00. If the body wasn’t found criminalistics wouldn’t have been expedited. There was disturbances at multiple windows on the outside and a rope that didn’t belong to the family in the guest bedroom. For whatever reason, boulder Police Department have not ran test on that rope to this day. The killers fingerprints might be on that rope because the rope had custom ends. The suitcase that was in the basement was out of place according to John and Patsy and was never kept in that room with the basement. The suitcase had fibers matching fibers on JonBenét’s clothing. JonBenét was in the suit case at some point that night. That was most likely the escape the killer was going to make. The ransom note was written before the family got home. The killer entered the house when the family left for the Christmas party. The killer stayed in the guest bedroom under the bed. We know something happened in that guest bedroom because the bedskirt was disturbed. The guest bedroom had a perfect view on the driveway, which the Ramseys would’ve pulled into when they got home, and it had a perfect view on JonBenét’s bedroom. There is no evidence to support the killer was still in the house when police arrived. The autopsy says she died 12-26-1996 at 1:32am. If that’s correct, normally it’s extremely close, The killer would’ve had plenty of time to leave the house before anyone woke up and called the police. This was supposed to be a kidnapping that backfired into a murder. Since Boulder didn’t work enough homicide cases, and this would’ve been first of the year for them, they should’ve called back up but they got too greedy on their bed wetting theory, which was debunked because the beds not wet, and completely screwed the case.

[@bethryan9077]

@@motorsportmoments Oh that's Hilarious, So, according to You, one has to have a college degree to understand True Crime & to know how to Research & to Know how to tell the difference between a fake document & a legitimate document etc etc. Get a Grip. You are Not a crime scene expert At All. You need to Learn about the digestive system. What was in JB's stomach was 8-10cc of viscous to green to tan Unidentifiable matter. I have Already told you What the Authentic autopsy report Looks Like & that it can be found online. The medical examiner did Not call what was in her stomach pineapple At All. In the Top of the Small Intestine were Fragments of yellow, light green-tan 'vegetable or fruit material 'which may represent pineapple'. That is What He Stated. He only said pineapple Then because Arndt was standing there & said pineapple was in a bowl on the table. The Small Intestine is Not the stomach. That was Fresh Cut pineapple in the bowl, 18 chunks & no top, rind or core was found because Patsy Didn't Buy Any fresh pineapple. In her police interview of '98, Thomas Haney Told Her, the tiny bits of pineapple in the top of JB's small intestine was Different to the pineapple in the bowl. It takes 2 hours for food to go from the stomach to the top of the small intestine. That Transcript of interview is online Also, Find the Full transcript. Fact - JB was fed pineapple Fruitcake in the early hours & at 5.30 a.m., was given a bit of the cake. There was No pineapple Anything at the Whites. Again, there No prints on that bowl. Burke Didn't even See that bowl, he Did Not Eat Any pineapple Either. Patsy Did Not prepare that on Any Day. Nothing was on the table, All was staged by the peps later. You people Know Nothing about this case. I Know Full Well JB was Strangled to Death & the blowS to the head were just after. My narrative of what Actually happened is on the threads, including This Page as of Three Months ago. Fact - a blow to the top of the head with a brick which caused the huge fracture down the skull, small stabs in a shape with a tool on the utility knife, Then a slam On the shape with the handle end of the black steel ball bat & that caused the hole that was split in 2 & inside the skull. The photo of the skull shows the impact of the brick on the top of the skull. A crime scene photo of the cellar shows the brick in there. The measurements Match. The Abrasions at the base of the neck were red because that happened Earlier from the cord being tightened, loosened & tightened, when vile acts occurred. Listen up, Blood is Not White at Any stage. Jeez. No, if Either of the severe fractures had occurred Before death, the skull would have been filled with blood, it Wasn't. And, There was No blood that was seen from Either because we don't bleed when dead. John put that suitcase in the basement a while before Xmas but he didn't put it in that room. Patsy didn't recognise it because it was from John's ex-wife's house & John Andrew had brought it to his father's house there sometime before. They were Never going to escape from that window & JB was Never to be taken from the basement. She was put in the suitcase after the scream because they ran outside & waited under the pine tree for a while, then they went back in. Glenn Meyer took the notepad on the 23rd at their Xmas party & so, the note was Already written & the perps brought it to the house with the marker, that was His. JB was taken from her room at about 1.30 a.m. No, that guest room was on the other side of the house. There is Lots of evidence that the killerS Were still in the house when the cops were there. The Real autopsy report Does Not say Any date Or time, that was Never established It was because of Steve Thomas wanting to make Money from a book he Always talked about writing, that the BS about a wet bed came about & he blamed Patsy because of the notepad used that had in the middle 'Mr & Mrs I'. Meyer did that deliberately so it looked like Patsy had made a mistake by starting to write 'Mr & Mrs Ramsey'. There were 7-8 pages missing from the middle also. Patsy used to buy those notepads in packs of 5. John handed detective Patterson two notepads that morning, one was his & the other was Patsys.

[@schantalchurch9024]

We are many.We are legion.Many were called few were chosen and there were only 3 nailed to the cross that were chosen to be in paradise with him.

[@2ndlifeseekers282]

Only one chosen y'all goober

[@tarashelton493]

They seem like a very odd family. I don’t know how I would have reacted in her mother’s place but something does feel off.

[@bax2603]

An envious coworker did that ,the letter is giving me that feeling ,wish the police can just hand over the DNA test to the person who can actually tell who it is , as she's more than willing and wanting to work with John ,this is news from this yr

[@nbenefiel]

DNAis excellent at identifying individuals, excluding suspects whose doesn’t match, convicting suspects who do, but it is not very helpful in finding suspects, especially back in 1997.

[@KaylaAilynne]

Parents killed her who’s gonna write a note saying Mr. Ramsey 😂

[@Shakespearelover1717]

DNA testing cleared the entire family.

[@kathyjones5085]

They did not kill their daughter

[@nbenefiel]

Why ignore the evidence? JonBenet was killed by an unidentified man.

[@londonderrry]

@@Shakespearelover1717 Cleared them of being textile workers in Asia... hence the touch DNA which didn't match them... on that I would agree. They don't look Asian.

[@nbenefiel]

@@londonderrry it wasn’t “touch” DNA.

[@chloeevans2569]

I can’t believe they would jump to conclusions instead of going to the basement right at the beginning I mean bruh…

[@bethryan9077]

What part of Ransom Note do you Not understand?

[@chloeevans2569]

@@bethryan9077 bruh I meant after the ransom note

[@bethryan9077]

@@chloeevans2569 Fleet White was down the basement early that morning looking for JB but didn't tell anyone he did that. He later said that his little girl went missing x long before this event & after panicking & searching everywhere she was found hiding under her bed. So his story went. He was interviewed more than once about his actions for the morning of the 26th & at his own house as well & he was losing it by the time they all travelled to Atlanta for the funeral where he carried a gun & there was an incident at Patsy's parent's house because he wasn't coping. He was interviewed 17 times in total & went to the governor eventually to demand that a grand jury be convened to save his own ass. I feel sorry for him actually, he was not involved. Even when he & John went down the basement at 1 p.m., Fleet never said anything about the fact that he had been down the basement already. He later told the cops that when he was down there early that morning, he had opened the cellar door but it was pitch dark & he couldn't find the light switch & walked away. Being a coal cellar originally, that cement room had no windows & the light switch was in an odd place, one had to step inside, go to the left & it was on a cord type fixture that was on the other side of a part of the wall. Fleet never went through the train room door then. Cops were down the basement also early that morning at different times. Officer French tried to flip the latch down that was on the top part of the door jam of that cellar door, holding the door shut. Reichenbach pulled the door knob, it had a bit of give he said, he walked away. Neither of them flipped the latch down & they walked away. So, for this reason alone, made what Fleet said later, Very suspicious. Another cop was down the basement taking photos at a different time again. Fleet nor the cops went through the train room door & so to those windows where one was broken. The perps did Not enter or exit through that window, but that is not the point. The BPD have always kept That fact hidden from the public also - their cops didn’t know about those windows in the basement at all. It wasn't til that evening when the cops went back that they saw the broken window & that's Why the 'famous' photo of the open window & the suitcase under it was taken in the Night. John was also down the basement before 8 that morning because he knew someone could get in that window as he done in the summer when he locked himself out of the house & he had broken that window, reached in to unlock it & then got through there, as he had done before. Those windows couldn't be seen from ground level & that one was the cheapest to fix. The morning of the 26th, he saw that the window pane was the same, obviously it hadn't been replaced because there was no glass around. It was open a fraction & he locked it. He saw the suitcase against the wall under the window & thought that was odd because he had put it down the basement a while before Xmas, but not in that room, but with the other suitcases in a cupboard under the stairs. He had to get back upstairs in case the call came in, 8-10, though the note said tomorrow. He knew at least one cop had been down the basement & presumed he had checked out that window. When he first went to go in the train room door, there was a chair/stool against the door & a few things next to it, also against the door. He moved the chair to the side & went through. When he came out, he put the chair back as it was. The suitcase being flush against the wall under those windows was bothering him in those hours waiting for contact & then that window. Like most people, one trusts that the cops know what they're doing but he was to find out later that no cop had seen those windows, even when going around the outside with a flashlight. When Fleet told John that Arndt had said to get him to get John & go look around for anything out of place, John took Fleet to show him that window & suitcase & he was telling him how he had broken the window in the summer. They were on the floor looking for any glass at all. They had checked the 2 cupboards in that co-joined room first. John noticed fresh paint off the keyhole of the one that used to be an elevator. That was a self locking door & if someone got in there & shut it they couldn't get out. Later on, the inside of the door was found to have been damaged, being 2 splits down the inside of it that wasn't like that before. When John got up off the floor & was walking out of the craft's room, which was what Patsy called it, Fleet moved the suitcase away from the wall & found one tiny piece of glass there & put it on top of the suitcase. That's Why the suitcase was in That position, re; the photo. John didn't see Fleet do that. When they went to enter the train room door, the chair was to the side in the hall & a small table was against the door with an Easter basket on top of it & a few other things, so gear was still blocking the door. The broken window was wide open & the scuff mark on the wall under it. The Facts Are - the perps put the gear there against the train room door to block it & the cops thought it was a cupboard & passed it by. When the cops left, the perps went back into that room & one scooted up to try & see where the cops were on that side of the house. He dropped the truckies' mirror that they used for seeing around corners & that can be seen in crime scene photos, against the wall, under the windows. Because the video footage was done in the night, the video had a light on the front & the round glass object there is shining. The perps put the chair/stool & items to the side of it but all against the train room door, to block it & then the table etc against the door when they exited the train room for the last time. The reason why the cops couldn't flip the latch down - because the perps had a device to hold the latch in place. The items used were picked up by the crime scene techs but it wasn't known Then what those items were about. From what John noticed that morning & at 1 p.m. & from what he was told later, he tried to tell the cops that someone must have been in the basement when the cops were down there, he was ignored, he was Right. The perps had already placed & moved Many things in the basement & all over the house. This led to a blame game, like a 3-ringed circus, in relation to Fleet, the housekeeper & both of them attributing some of the factors, back to both John & Patsy. One needs to know that cops ask questions, they don't say Why a question is asked & they don't get back to that person with any resolution about Whatever, so all parties were kept in the dark & so, forever suspicious of each other. Patsy & John did Not believe Fleet was involved but they had questions & Fleet had been losing it up to & including in Atlanta for the funeral & even after that. It was the Whites who stopped talking to the Ramseys, not the other way around. I feel very sorry for the White family also, they were caught up in the whole fiasco with cops who were not only totally incompetent for this very complex case, they were ever deceitful to cover up all that they did & Didn't do that morning & so, the BS began with false & misleading information being leaked to the media & the cops hiding evidence of an intruder, even from the DA.

[@yungdcwa81]

THE COPS BOTCHED THE WHOLE CASE

[@jamestyler7697]

I feel like everything I could say has already been said, but I'm surprised the actor who played Jeff Shapiro the reporter hasn't gotten more shout outs as he portrays him as a particularly slimy piece of work, almost like a precursor to the exploitative True Crime/"homicide groupies" we see permeating all over YT now tbh

[@barbarapritchard383]

I believe her brother killed her cause he was jealous of her. R.I.P. sweet little girl.😭

[@dodgecrockett3474]

If that's true, then bro needs to take a polygraph.

[@katerobins3137]

You could be right. Many people believe he accidentally killed her from hitting her in a burst of anger because she ate his pineapple. I think this is highly unlikely, because she didn't die from the hit on her head. She died from the strangulation done by the garott around her neck. This isn't something you can accomplish in just a second from a burst of rage. Your theory that he intended to kill her, or atleast hurt her very badly, is much more likely. I believe Burke did it too.

[@willnill7946]

@@katerobins3137 the blow to the head killed her. The strangulation was staged

[@deanobannon842]

No evidence of that. Plenty of evidence of intruder. Foreign DNA found in her underwear, under her finger nails and on the paint brush. It was a sex crime. John bennett clothing fibers found in the suitcase.. intruder was trying to take her but something went wrong so he decided to do it there. Parents and Burke are innocent

[@deanobannon842]

She was strangled first then hit over the head that's why lack of blood in the brain

[@HumanimalChannel]

And yep Patsy was freaking out the MOST

[@BocasBunterBionBsi]

11:03 Mrs White: Patsy, dont you find that really weird? Patsy; *sniff sniff *tf is happening?*

[@sommeresposito7728]

Patsy wrote the note

[@bethryan9077]

In 2003, Federal Court Judge Carne declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. And that was way back Then. All can read the 93 page document online. Besides Actual evidence talked about, Carne is scathing about Steve Thomas & Cina Wong in relation to all the BS they told about this case. From the 1st week of 1997 til 2008, the DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs - unknown male DNA & Matching from - under JB's fingernails, saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants, touch DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & outside there. The DNA has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is Hispanic. These 2 left town within the week. One was 17 at the time & came to the U.S. from Puerto Rico when younger with his family. The other one was 24, white guy with fair hair. He was Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard when they left. Another vital Fact that has been swept under the rug because so many ‘authors’ jumped on the bandwagon & wrote books of BS for Financial Gain. All that false & misleading information, transferred to TV for the Same reason. And so, onto Utube ‘shows’. The brainwashing of the public began a Long time ago. The BPD took the note to the Secret Service & they also hired 2 Renowned private experts, all said 4 No Ramsey wrote the note. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of plus the DNA that had already Cleared them All & Lots of others including known pedos & John Mark Karr who said he did it. That DNA continued to Clear people & Still

[@Kevin-tz2lv]

Yes

[@bethryan9077]

@@Kevin-tz2lv The BPD took the note to the Secret Service & they also hired 2 Renowned private experts, all 4 said No Ramsey Wrote The Note. You have Never Seen Patsy's writing, you have only seen pages put on screen on some vids, as If Patsy's writing & as If from police files, All Fake. Loads of unscrupulous people have made $$ from this still high profile crime & all the BS continues about this Proven Innocent family due to the Fact that the general public do Not know anything about this crime, let alone anything True. Do some Actual research, for a start, look up the autopsy photos (shoulders up only), are online. The Ramseys were Exonerated a long long time ago, with a mountain of Actual evidence & by Real experts.

[@Kevin-tz2lv]

@@bethryan9077 if it was an intruder....and if they would have actually worked with the police from day 1...that intruder would be in prison. It's their fault.

[@bethryan9077]

@@Kevin-tz2lv The Ramseys gave the cops free reign to their house from the minute officer French walked in the door because they had Nothing to hide. They spoke to the cops & detectives in total for Hours that morning & after JB was found. Burke was interviewed when still at the Whites at 2 p.m. by detective Patterson, Neither parent was present. John spoke with the Ds that night, Patsy was bedridden by then. Arndt asked John for them to go to the PD on the 28th. The Ramseys had already witnessed how inept the cops Were & John hired a private investigator straight away. They gave the required samples & John spoke to the Ds for 2 hours again that day. Steve Thomas was brought in because the present investigators refused to target the Ramseys. Thomas had Zero experience with Any murder case before & thought he would make a name for himself from the high profile crime. His partner was an auto-theft officer. The BPD rarely had a murder & this was the first for '96. The next 2 up the ladder had No experience with homicide Either. The BPD refused help from the FBI & the CBI. The present investigators had No problems believing the Ramseys were genuine that day. Then the body was found in the house when the Cops should have found her early that morning & the BPD went into damage control & so, the BS Began. False & misleading information was already being leaked to the media. The Ramseys were told they were being targeted & advised to get lawyers. Very sound advice & the Right of All citizens. The talk was through the lawyers then, That's how it Goes. John went on to hire 3 more private investigators. What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on national TV & for Years? NONE. And John continued that after Patsy died. He & John Andrew continue Still. You people know Nothing about this crime & know nothing True about this case. Most of you don't even Know what Actually happened to JB. The Ramseys were Proven Innocent a long time ago, it is way over time to leave the family In Peace

[@JOONBUGFILMS]

I always loves this song it’s very haunting but a very good song I always wanted Who sings it

[@gisellem.9325]

Hi, what is the name of the song?

[@JOONBUGFILMS]

@@gisellem.9325 I don’t know but it’s the song played at the beginning I can’t seem to find it anywhere not even a full version

[@gisellem.9325]

@@JOONBUGFILMS Yeah, me neither. :( Thank you for responding.

[@JOONBUGFILMS]

@@gisellem.9325 but hey if you find out the song you’re more than welcome to email me [e-mail]

[@dodgecrockett3474]

Joonbug, your post is confusing as hell.

[@chrisgomez1840]

wat killed me de most is when John finds JBR n hearing Patsy after being told they found her dead scream a distraught mother scream

[@Kevin-tz2lv]

Especially considering she murdered her kid

[@user-wy3kk4im8j]

Why the father wants to leave town you have to know they had something to do with it

[@thedailyavgeek]

man shut up youve already commented 25 times

[@bethryan9077]

He was wanting to get to some sort of Safety & to Family in Atlanta, two perfectly Normal things to want to do.

[@homeabroad16]

It's absolutely horrifying that they killed her but also look at all the lives they destroyed! So many people resigning from their jobs because they couldn't take this wealthy and highly protected family to court. What a nightmare. Rest in peace little Johnny B ✨️

[@vickijohnson9704]

How dare you presume to know who killed Jonbenet. God, the killer, and Jonbenet know the truth.

[@darkhorse9472]

@homeabroad Don't act like you give a $hit about JonBenet..she wouldn't appreciate you accusing her loving parents of heinously torturing, tasing, garroting, sexually assaulting and splitting her head open. It was a sick, twisted pedo.

[@nbenefiel]

The way people here repeat garbage with no evidence is nauseating. There is no evidence the Ramseys killed their beloved daughter. She was brutally assaulted and murdered. Any fool can see premeditation here. You don’t construct a garrote by accident. You don’t accidentally loosen and tighten it around a child’s neck by accident. You don’t strangle her to death by accident. Simple logic people.

[@nbenefiel]

They didn’t take this family to court for one simple reason. All of the physical evidence exonerated the Ramseys. Once the prosecution lost both the DNA and the handwriting analysis, only a fool of a prosecutor would have filed suit. Alex Hunter was a seasoned DA. He knew there was no evidence incriminating them.

[@carolinebyrne4995]

IT'S JUST THE SAME OLD STORY IF YOUR RICH IS YOU WILL ALWAYS GET AWAY WITH MURDER I CAN GANTEREE YOU ONE THING IF THE RAMEY'S HAD LIVED IN A TRAILER PARK THEY WOULD BE ROTTING IN JAIL

[@bethryan9077]

So, according to Your thought processes, the poor & the average wage earner, have Never got away with murder. Doh.

[@bethryan9077]

The BPD took the note to the Secret Service & they also hired 2 Renowned private experts, all 4 said No Ramsey wrote the note. **From the 1st week of 1997 til 2008, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under JB’s fingernails - unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but Never tested. Steve Thomas constantly talked about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury was to convene that more DNA tests were ordered. The blood was JBs & Same unknown male DNA - saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. The BPD & Steve Thomas, who had Never worked a murder case Before, were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD, whose officers Should have found JB early that morning though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they Failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. The broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point. Only America & one other country still has a stupid grand jury system. It is unfair, unjust & doesn't work. The jurors only hear from the prosecution, who get to pick & choose what evidence is presented & which witnesses appear. There is no judge, no defence lawyers & No experts to rebut Whatever is presented. As a consequence, the jury vote on the side of the prosecution 98.6% of the time. And Steve Thomas withheld a great deal of vital evidence. The vote was never for murder. Unlike the jury, the general public & the media, the DA Saw all the evidence known about at that time as did Lou Smit, one of the best investigators in the country. The DNA alone Proved just how Wrong the jury Were. Steve Thomas illegally took evidence material from the BPD & resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, that was the precursor for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That also. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his Story. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent. The investigation Continued along with a bevy of private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another. What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on national TV & for Years? NONE. The Ramseys continued that til Patsy died in 2006 & John continued the same & does to this day. Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolfe vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carne got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carne declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his integrity as a police officer & all his BS in that book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He did That to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carne was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with writing ‘samples’ As If Patsy’s, it’s all Fake. The public have Never seen Patsy’s writing. The Ramseys & Loads of others. who included known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA a Long time ago. The DNA from that unknown male was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - Same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & the outside there. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of Plus the DNA from the unknown male, that had also cleared John Mark Karr who said he did it. Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the Whites Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push This vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the BS continues. N.B. Who would Write a ransom note on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The Cops? There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That! The public need to understand that this case hasn’t been to Trial yet & so - You Know Nothing About This Crime, The Case Or About What Was Actually Perpetrated Upon This Poor Child. BTW - Burke, Was Never Even A Suspect. The Bits You Think You Know About this Crime - Are NOT True. *You all need to get this Very Clear - You Do Not Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years have Also stated that the Ramseys - Are Innocent. It’s 2022 & All is now Known - the 4 involved have been identified, 2 are dead, the BPD are holding things up. The BPD have issued a statement via the media -on the 1st May, 2022.

[@bethryan9077]

This is the problem for all those like Yourself - you don't know a Damn Thing about the crime, the case Or about what was Actually perpetrated upon this poor Child. The Authorities Plus Forensic Scientists, Proved Intruders Were in That house. The public are still back in the Old Days, you all need to Catch Up, it is Not still 1996, 1997, 1998. Expert investigators Continued Working This Case. Soo many in the public domain are stuck in a friggin Time Warp. The False & misleading information that is Still being portrayed on Most of the vids on Utube, is the Same False & Misleading information that media & books put out from Way Back Then. Wake Up America! Go do some Actual Research. Learn about the Actual evidence. You people have seen a few photos - pineapple in a bowl, flashlight on a bench, cord on a stick, writing on some pages. That is Not Evidence & most certainly Nothing to do with Evidence of Murder. Thank goodness you people didn't get to see More photos. LOL. FYI - there were Hundreds. Someone made a TV 'show' & told you all those items were evidence about the Ramseys & Burke, they Were Not. You have All been Hoodwinked. The ONLY piece that you people know about that Can be classed as evidence, is the notepad. THAT Was Used to Commit this crime. That Did come from the house. There is No Other Evidence From That House, that was Used To Commit This Crime. So what have you people got? Never ending stupid Crap that you all post, that Also has Nothing to do with the Murder of This Child. Access the autopsy photos that are online, they are shoulders up only. Have a good look at the burn on this child's cheek & the cord left embedded in her neck. There were also abrasions at the base of her neck from that cord, from earlier vile acts with that Bondage Device. That was Not a garrotte. Some Idiot thought that Word looked good for a Headline & in a Book, because of that One Photo. A garrotte has Two handles to work, Not One. Source the Photo of the Whole thing. What I have Already told you about That, is the True Facts. The Authentic autopsy report States about the rust coloured marks at each temple & the same rust coloured marks on the back of one leg. Crime scene photos Show the rusty log grabber in the Cellar. The authentic autopsy report can be found online, the 1st page has the symbol/emblem for Boulder County- That flashlight was Not a weapon used & that did Not belong to the Ramseys. The authentic autopsy report Proves JB did Not eat Any of that pineapple, Forensics Proved That. Patsy did Not write that note, the Experts Proved That & the Writing was Not the Only factor that Proved That, She Did NOT. Glenn Meyer took the notepad when he invited himself to their Xmas party on the 23rd, Simple as That. He organised this crime for Money, his 3 cohorts turned into something else. This was a very, Very well Planned crime for money & revenge. There are Many reasons why kidnapping has always been a rare crime. One has to take the time to Think about Why that is a Fact. The plan - JB was Never to be taken from that basement. It was always going to be 50/50 if the cops were called & they didn’t get that quick cash. They sure didn’t go to so much trouble & such high risk for Nothing. The taking of photos was their back-up for money. True Crime for a great many, is way too much to Fathom when you don’t know about the True Facts. The Ramseys were Officially Exonerated a Long time ago with a mountain of Actual Evidence & by Real experts, including Forensic Scientists. Just because you don’t Know about that evidence, does Not Mean that it doesn’t exist. The DNA from an unknown male has been in CODIS since 2003. Give the FBI a call. Clearly you people need to Learn what DNA is About. You have been watching TV for over 25 Years & you Choose to believe it All, as long as it’s Against - the Ramseys. You don’t care which one, Or, you decide on all 3. Yet, you don’t even know about ANY Actual Evidence. Shame on every one of You. This case - Has Never Been To Trial & so, You have Never Seen the Case Evidence. What sort of people say all they do about this Very Kind family, when you have Never even Seen Any of the Evidence about the Crime? Loads of you even Demean this murdered little girl also & since 2016, her 9 year old brother too, because of a Bogus TV ‘show’ that was put out by a pack of Con Artists. Burke was Never even a suspect & was interviewed That afternoon when he was still at the Whites by detective Patterson, Neither parent was present, Nor did they know that was happening. Patterson spoke Publicly after that BS ‘show’ & said Burke knew Nothing & was Very worried that his sister was still missing. None of you even Know what was Actually perpetrated upon JonBenet, nor do you Care to Find Out, because you’re all too busy spouting all your hateful Garbage about a case that You Know Nothing About & At a fine Upstanding family who Didn’t Do A Damn Thing & who, In Fact, were Victims.. Soo many down the threads, all sites, are an Absolute Disgrace & that’s just another True Fact. A great many people say that 'it doesn't add up'. But, soo many people, Don't Know Any True Facts about - Anything & so, you are Not in the position to say - that it doesn't add up. All Ramseys were Proven Innocent with a mountain of Actual evidence & eventually by a bunch of Seasoned Experts, including Forensic Scientists. All those under the umbrella of Law Enforcement who Saw 'Facts In Evidence' which Included the autopsy photos, the photo of the skull & the Authentic autopsy report. . . Until this case is brought to trial for criminal proceedings, the general public will Never get to know the True Facts about this case. Unless you start some Actual Research online, but that takes a whole lot of hard slog & one needs some experience just to tell the difference between a fake document & an authentic one. The vids are Still full of False & Misleading information whether old TV programmes or new Utube 'shows' & both show Fake pages put up on the screen As If from police files, the Same False & misleading information in soo many books. All of this BS has been going around for Over 25 years & counting. People need to wake up to themselves. Obviously too many in the public domain believe all that they read in trashy magazines too.

[@mrspaghetti7461]

Absolutely. The same thing with poor Maddy McCann’s parents.

[@bethryan9077]

@@mrspaghetti7461 Firstly, the Ramseys were Proven Innocent a Long time ago & next - there is Nothing to say that Maddie is deceased, so just Shut It. Like soo many others, you're talking from that place where the sun don't shine.

[@davidwatt4511]

Guilty as sin,No doubts whatsoever.

[@nancycottone2155]

My problem has always been two things one the so called intruder has never been found, like after all these years no one who knows him has turned him in or no death bed confession, and two I'm sorry but Burke's behavior and feelings about his sister's death were not normal not at the time and certainly not in that Dr Phil interview, that smile never left his face

[@nbenefiel]

When people are nervous, as Burke was on Dr. Phil, they often tend to smile inappropriately. As smile or smirk on Burke’s face 20+ years after his sister’s murder is not evidence. As for the DNA, it is excellent for identification purposes, for exonerating suspects, and for incriminating known suspects, but when it comes to finding suspects it is less useful. There are billions of people on this planet. The killer could be anywhere. Very few people are on any of the DNA registries. The killer could have been in prison or dead for years. Or he could be this new suspect, some guy living in Michigan. The police are waiting for DNA results. Maybe they will match.

[@benjaminhawthorne1969]

John quickly fabricated a scenario to draw the detectives attention from the Ramsey family, who were the ONLY logical suspects to a mysterious stranger, a boogeyman.

[@bethryan9077]

Few people know that in 2003, Federal Court Judge Carne declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. And that was way back Then. All can read the 93 page document online. Besides Actual evidence talked about, Carne is scathing about Steve Thomas & Cina Wong in relation to all the BS they told about this case. From the 1st week of 1997 til 2008, the DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs - unknown male DNA & Matching from - under JB's fingernails, saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants, touch DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & outside there. The DNA has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is Hispanic. These 2 left town within the week. One was 17 at the time & came to the U.S. from Puerto Rico when younger with his family. The other one was 24, white guy with fair hair. He was Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard when they left. Another vital Fact that has been swept under the rug because so many ‘authors’ jumped on the bandwagon & wrote books of BS for Financial Gain. All that false & misleading information, transferred to TV for the Same reason. And so, onto Utube ‘shows’. The brainwashing of the public began a Long time ago. The BPD took the note to the Secret Service & they also hired 2 Renowned private experts, all said 4 No Ramsey wrote the note.

[@bethryan9077]

You say that John fabricated a scenario to draw the detectives attention from the Ramsey family. LMAO. How did he do that exactly lovey? How does Your child's body being in Your house plus & note written on Your wife's notepad - draw the detectives attention From the Ramseys? LOL. You kids don't Think very well do you. I hope you're Never on a jury, Pleeease. Tell me, what makes you say they were the only logical suspects? Because they lived there? Do you know How Many Kids & Adults are murdered in their Homes, whilst other family members Live There? When a child is abducted from her home & found murdered somewhere else, does that mean someone from her home did that? According to You, they ae the Only logical suspects. Jeez.

[@USArmy91222]

i agree, he was the mastermind behind the cover up and patsy just followed his directives..it is a bit odd though they never flipped on each other, she stuck by him like glue to her dying day

[@bethryan9077]

@@USArmy91222 All Ramseys were Proven Innocent a Long time ago with a mountain of something called Evidence & by a bunch of Real experts who included Forensic Scientists. You kids need to stick to your one hour made up TV shows, that tell ya the ending.

[@USArmy91222]

@@bethryan9077 BS, the Ramsey's are still the prime suspects in the murder of Jonbenet..problem for the Boulder Police was they couldn't prove if one or both were involved, they know for sure Patsy was! do you want me to get into the evidence against Patsy Ramsey?