JonBenet Ramsey Case: Prime Suspects (CBS 48 Hours, December 18, 2004) *READ DESCRIPTION*

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Please bear in mind, this information is outdated. If I remember correctly, this documentary claims a DNA match on two items of clothing which further cemented an intruder theory in the public's mind. This claim is utterly false.
Check the following links for further information:
FAQ Regarding the "Touch" DNA
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DNA Lab Documents
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JonBenet: DNA in Doubt
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Medical Opinions on Jonbenét's injuries:
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Handwriting vs the Ransom Note:
• Patsy Ramsey: Handwrit...

[@theramseycase]

Check the following links for further information: FAQ Regarding the "Touch" DNA www.reddit.com/r/JonBenetRamsey/comments/l0ev4y/dna_evidence_in_the_ramsey_case_faqs_and_common/ DNA Lab Documents jonbenetramsey.pbworks.com/w/page/130877934/CORAfiles%20Index JonBenet: DNA in Doubt kzbin.info/www/bejne/rnfIh4hjd9h1Z7M Medical Opinions on JonBenet's injuries: www.reddit.com/r/JonBenetRamsey/wiki/medical_opinions Handwriting vs the Ransom Note: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bqCrnWeQoZKoh7s

[@viviancaulkins5858]

You were right about the fibers from John Ramsey’s clothing being in the crotch of her underwear. I just saw it on a video. This is the first that I have ever heard of this!! Very disturbing! Here is the link to the video.. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rXayepuhg7KMnLc

[@theramseycase]

@@viviancaulkins5858 that coupled with the list of medical opinions right here: www.reddit.com/r/JonBenetRamsey/wiki/medical_opinions Disturbing as hell.

[@glamdolly30]

@@theramseycase This video is very out of date re the DNA - when was it first broadcast? DNA on Jonbenet's clothing has never produced a suspect for her murders, independent of her parents. So the DNA does not exonerate John and the late Patsy - despite former DA Mary Lacy's lie that it does! At time of writing, August 2022, it's well known there is no complete, unidentified male DNA profile on that clothing. The DNA is useless, and certainly won't solve the case. John Ramsey is currently campaigning to have the DNA from Jonbenet's clothes re-tested, but he knows full well what hasn't already been tested to destruction, is not worth testing because it's merely composite DNA, ie not a single complete sample from one person, but an incomplete mix from more than one source. John Ramsey knows the DNA won't 'unmask her killer' as he claims, because it can't conclusively prove that he or Patsy did it - however, significantly it has not produced any other suspect! John Ramsey recently organised a public petition to get the DNA released by police for re-testing, knowing by creating that pointless circus around DNA, he distracts attention from the biggest piece of evidence in the case - the fake ransom note. Patsy wrote that note, to cover up John's murder and long-term sexual abuse of Jonbenet. The proven child sex abuse in this case (exposed when her intimate injuries were revealed at autopsy), is another smoking gun, pointing straight to the Ramseys. Here is a detailed breakdown of Jonbenet's injuries proving she suffered chronic, long term child sex abuse, and was also sexually assaulted on the night she died - facts always vehemently denied by John and Patsy, And their strange responses regarding the abuse are yet more clues to their guilt. jonbenetramsey.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Sexual_Assault

[@theramseycase]

@@glamdolly30 It is propaganda. Basically. The information within the video is factually incorrect. All the intruder theory BS I've uploaded is purely for archival purposes and also to show the lengths that they have gone to misdirect the public.

[@glamdolly30]

@@theramseycase Thank you - I realise you are not promoting this nonsense, but rather are providing an invaluable archive of historic coverage of this infamous child murder case. I'm grateful to you! It never ceases to amaze me how many people out there buy into the Ramseys 'intruder theory'. The statistical probability of your child being attacked by a man who breaks into your house in the middle of the night, takes them from their bed to a different part of the house, sexually molests and murders them (and writes a 3-page ransom letter) before leaving, unseen or heard, must be close to a billion to one! However, the chance of a child being sexually abused and murdered by a parent are, as we know, scarily high. It may be crazily far-fetched and incredible, but together with their money and status their intruder story served its purpose - providing sufficient distraction and 'reasonable doubt' to keep the Ramseys out of custody! I recently caught a phone-in with legendary forensic pathologist Dr Cyril Wecht, who wrote a book on the Jonbenet case. He concluded John Ramsey killed his daughter unintentionally during a sexual assault, then colluded with Patsy to tell the intruder story to preserve what remained of their family and their privileged lifestyle. It's the most convincing theory of this crime I've ever heard. Chilling.

[@TonyDucks89]

Seeing these old commercials really makes me nostalgic for better times.

[@deathpunch23]

I dunno man, nowadays statistically we are far safer than ever in the entire history of our country from our kids being taken by small foreign factions.

[@thesaint5619]

@deathpunch23 it's OK they tell you to bring attache cases with you they are very thoughtful people these small foreign factions

[@luskapani9905]

So many years and still no justice for this poor little girl. It is so sad.

[@barbaraspector6689]

There is no time limit in heaven. It will be done. Have patience.

[@exs3574]

One devil has already taken a truth to the grave. The other one is on his way. Justice is coming...

[@thesaint5619]

It's impossible to solve now as the clown of a DA has cleared the ramseys even though nobody with a brain would ever have done such a ludicrous thing. There is not enough markers to ever match anyone

[@thesaint5619]

That clearance and apology is reasonable doubt against any ramsey for ever now

[@user-mt6dw7vu4q]

What grabs my attention is the crazy ransom letter, advising them to be rested and then she’s not taken. What criminal is concerned about them being rested? Far too strange.

[@hlowrylong]

It sounded like every 1980s spy or espionage movie. The parents didn’t do it, nor did 9-year old Burke.

[@theramseycase]

@@hlowrylong Look at my video Patsy Ramsey: Handwriting vs Ransom Note she wrote that note. It's undeniable.

[@ayamystic2]

@@hlowrylongpatsy was a journalist.

[@BRAIRCO]

I agree, extremely strange !!!!!! Here there was some accident or some beating that caused his death and they spent the whole night thinking about what to do. The ransom letter was written by one of the Ramseys, and there was never an intruder, throughout the night they prepared the crime scene. The murderer is the father, mother or brother......accidentally or premeditated.

[@luciuscornelius7177]

JonBenet would be 31 now had she lived, with a family of her own. A tragedy for her and all the children whose lives have been snuffed out by monsters before they had a chance to live their lives.

[@luciuscornelius7177]

​@@vicksta8875 not sure what was in the comment I just posted that the YT bots thought was so outrageous that I needed censoring. I was just asking what kind of involvement you thought he had. As with most of the people the evidence points to, I'm 50/50 that he had a hand in it somewhere lol The only one I'm 51/49 is that one of the MANY pea do's that lived in the area were responsible, it's kind of their bag whereas the Dad doesn't have any pre or post event convictions for serious violent offences, which I believe someone who did this kind of thing would have, for sure. It wouldn't be an isolated incident and you'd perhaps see a pattern of behaviour leading up to it and similar/escalated offences afterwards.

[@luciuscornelius7177]

​@@vicksta8875 Epstein (who didn't do himself in of course. Now that night's a rabbit hole nobody in authority is looking into very hard, are they? VERY odd) had a 2008 conviction for his revolting behaviour and a well documented pattern of deviance going back years. Haven't seen anyone saying similar about the Dad, or have they? I could have missed it, there's so much info on this case. He's defo very controlled in any emotion he displays in interviews etc, but if he wasn't and cried every time he talked about JB he'd probably be called out for being fake and undignified lol

[@luciuscornelius7177]

​@@vicksta8875 I suspect all three are all down the same rabbit hole. JB, if she actually was [redacted] by one of the [redacted] in the area. With the many powerful men who are up to similar pass times, using people like Epstein to procure and coerce vulnerable [redacted] for them, and who are the same men who dictate the MSM narrative, highlighting and lying about some things, burying (literally) others. Allegedly.

[@luciuscornelius7177]

​@@vicksta8875 woooh, never heard that about Maxwell at JB's pageants, it must be easy to confirm/discount if she's always had short hair and there was a comparison pic of her ears? She's so plain looking that it'd be easy to mistake her for someone else I suppose.

[@barbaraspector6689]

That was her life. I fear she was sexually abused for many years.

[@thesaint5619]

Two random burgers slash drug addicts decided to kill a child sexual molest a child leave the rest of the family totally alive and leave the world's most personal ransom note and the longest ransom note in history. Made themselves some pineapple and milk and also find the the darkest room in the house to leave the body even though the house keeper didn't even no the room was there after working there for months. Definitely intruder right

[@juliaperry137]

Exactly..And not everyone knew that John and Pasty used the back staircase to come down but a intruder knew this and left the note on the back staircase..of all places.

[@sunnydelight5255]

Excellent points

[@maryjocassell48]

You guys might like Unsolved No More with Retired cold case Detective Ken Mains. His take on the Ransom note is quite telling.

[@HelioScudeiro]

Nonsense, who would ask 118k from a family that could pay 1 million?! Why that amount of money? Why 3 pages of ramson note? I dont know, but seem like more an inside act.

[@user-pf3uw8oh9d]

Definitely!

[@mattmolewski7475]

Lol, the grand jury did indict, and CBS didn't bother to pay attention to what the DA actually said.

[@bQ22602]

I don’t know but why do the Parents always have this smug look on their faces. If I had a daughter and all of those things happened to her, I would be a wreck.

[@leahsmith4310]

I think it's easy to look at someone and judge their facial expressions or behavior. When I am devastated, I go blank. I show no emotion and I just completely shut down. I will cry over a cat video, but when it's something really horrible, I'm either hysterical to the point of passing out or blank and avoid of emotion

[@leahsmith4310]

And then when parents are too emotional or sad or upset, they are judged for being too dramatic and then that seems suspicious. There was DNA at the scene. They found a cereal rapist who had been undetectable since the '70s, all with DNA, and not even his own. How are they not utilizing this DNA to figure out who actually did it

[@deathpunch23]

​@@leahsmith4310I dont think it's that deep, they are just very clearly lying.

[@biddyearly9262]

Patsy has been interviewed in tears and heavily sedated. I believe Burke did it. What parents wouldn't protect Burke? He was just a kid.

[@captaindan5006]

If Patsy wrote that ransom note, which I believe she did, then someone in the family was responsible. ❤

[@Blonde_Somnambulist]

Yes Patsy

[@viviancaulkins5858]

Exactly! Patsy Ramsey didn’t cover up for an “intruder”! Patsy Ramsey could write with both hands which explains the confusion. But her handwriting style was all over that letter!!

[@janpierzchala2004]

I do not know why but they did not certify she had written this.......

[@TheWordmerchant]

Patsy Ramsey was innocent. Her husband was innocent. If you've watched this video with any degree of intelligence you'll understand that Michael Helgott is the most likely suspect in this sad case. Watch it again. TWO perpetrators are believed to have been responsible for the murder. This seals it for me. The entire Ramsey family is 100% innocent of any and all wrongdoing. Nowhere is their DNA implicated.

[@JET7C0]

I think she definitely did, potentially with John's input - I actually think it's likely they both were aware she was dead before they called the police and they game-planned it out together. As much as I hate to say it, the son has a lot pointing in his direction: he'd hit JonBenet in the head with a golf club just the prior summer in a fit of anger; the basement/"wine cellar" (not used for that) was kind of his play domain; the two puncture marks perfectly match the distance between ends of segments of the toy train tracks (which were disturbed the morning she was found) set up down there; finally, there was a glass of tea and bowl of pineapple set out overnight with his fingerprints on it, and JonBenet's autopsy showed the last thing she'd eaten shortly before her death was pineapple. There's no physical evidence at all of an intruder, outside of that bizarre ransom note - but it would've taken forever to write that _three page_ note, and during a break in? The pad showed evidence of multiple test runs/drafts as well, plus the supposed kidnapper was polite enough to return the pen used to write it to its original location. Then, we're supposed to believe they went through all that effort and setup, only to kill her anyway and leave her in the basement anyway? Makes no sense. The ransom amount was specific and fairly small, considering the stakes. The note itself also reads like what a person who's watched a bunch of hollywood thrillers would think a ransom note should look like.

[@thesaint5619]

Patsey wrote the note I always come back to that... Every.. Single... Time!

[@luskapani9905]

She definetely did. Look up statement analysis of the ransom note. I can’t believe Patsy was not arrested!

[@thesaint5619]

@@luskapani9905 absolutely

[@AW-mf6oe]

@@luskapani9905 money

[@JBthree24]

Patsy wrote the “Ramsey Note”

[@maryjocassell48]

On Unsolved No More with Retired cold case Detective Ken Mains, he gives his thought on the Ransom note. It's quite telling.

[@trytobenice7234]

🧊 Skip the commercials @ 0:57 + 5:42 + 17:42 + 33:11 + 44:38 + 52:37

[@neurotoxique3181]

The ridiculous letter written with a patsy's similar handwritting is the best evidence.

[@karinknittel7719]

That piece of evidence tells a lot It seems the parents had a lot of time to prepared what to do and what to say.....

[@godlygirls62]

Nope. The DNA evidence left behind matched no one in the house

[@MrPsaunders]

She was ambidextrous@@nbenefiel True Crime Rocket Science has many thoughtful episodes on this case.

[@lills9990]

@@godlygirls62 Research more concerning the DNA in this case, the uploader has provided many links to do so, it's not all black & white, and the Ramsey DNA was everywhere, it was THEIR home, therefore, it gave them the benefit of the doubt, their DNA was missing where it clearly shouldn't have been, very odd, lastly they were indicted by a grand jury in this case, the DA declined to move forward, but why?

[@catspajamas2961]

@@godlygirls62 The dna was touch dna that could have come from the sewing and packing process. They could do investigative genetic genealogy on it which takes days if not hours, but don't. They seem to like talking about the dna more than actually using it to identify anyone.

[@mizzlaura]

People make the Ramseys out to be innocent victims and they're not, they didn't act like innocent parents would do after finding out their daughter had been kidnapped and they were worse after they learned she was dead, they invited folks over to their home, they passed the ransom note around like it was the local paper, they kicked the police out of their home and invited them back 24 hours later when the first 24 hours are the most important, they spoke to press before they spoke to the police and when they did it was months after the murder and they put them on a 3 question limit, they also refused to be interrogated until they had looked over every piece of evidence and documents including police notes, not to mention they dangled their beautiful daughter around like a Christmas pudding for any sicko to lust over, even if they're not guilty of murder they're definitely guilty of child endangerment and I think John now realises that and wishes he'd put his foot down in regards to the pageants, he even called for shows like Dance Mums and Toddlers and Tiaras to be cancelled because of what happened to JonBenet and his fears of history repeating itself

[@kathy9513]

I totally agree

[@iamthepapi6251]

40 sex offenders within 2 miles is sooooo unacceptable!!!

[@ashsara9233]

And they all checked out and were eliminated. JB had been to the doctor 33 times in two years prior to her death. Currently reading a book written by one of the detectives who was on the case. The ramsays were protected and police blocked at every opportunity. 😢

[@deathpunch23]

That's called a church.

[@LauraStutz-iu9zo]

​@@deathpunch23It's everywhere

[@MoralMaze163]

John has to know patsy wrote that note if we all do

[@sparklemotion86]

He wants you to think that that's why he imitated her handwriting

[@deathpunch23]

​@@sparklemotion86nah she wrote it. John either helped or figured it out himself after reading and finding the body the first time he went to the basement.

[@christiannusser9976]

Oh, now the prosecutors paid by the Ramseys say there were 2 intruders. Why not 3 or 5 or more intruders?! Give me a break!

[@Hope31706]

Good comment..

[@heathermurphy9359]

I mean it would make sense that there were 2 people

[@YouButter]

Right and them strange intruders knew the amount of JR bonus which would be dumb pedo money wise. Intruders knew the lay out of the house let me guess cuz he had broke into it prior.

[@rrrrrrr303]

You know, all these theories are great and all, but Patsy wrote the ransom letter and John knows why.

[@Oran_Lee]

Yay. Just what we need. More Team Ramsey _garbage._

[@kirstendorothy1946]

Thank you for all your videos pertaining to the Ramsey case. It is very appreciated!!!

[@theramseycase]

Always happy to share what I come across. If you happen to come across anything new or underseen, let me know!

[@thesaint5619]

Can we get the latest one that came out think it was lou smit family one and his list I cannot get it in UK anywhere

[@theramseycase]

@@thesaint5619 Is it that 20/20 “The List” episode?

[@lyndseykeiser5663]

@@theramseycase That 20/20 episode was after - the one I believe they are talking about came out only on the Discovery + App. It is called “JonBenet Ramsey What Really Happened”.

[@theramseycase]

@@lyndseykeiser5663 Unless you believe an Intruder Did It, believe me. It's awful. Discovery+ made that.

[@abba4life37]

Thank you The Ramsey Case for these videos. So great to get the original sources of info!

[@JM-uu6ch]

Mmmmm the ransom note though. Nah they know what happened

[@maryjocassell48]

You might want to check out Unsolved no more with Retired cold case Detective Ken Mains. His take on the Ransom note is quite telling.

[@foxyauragems6146]

Why weren’t they indicted on obstruction of justice ? How about child neglect (she did have long term sexual abuse wounds poor little 6 yr old) and if her mother was prepping her body for pageants clothes photo shoots etc she knew. Tragic they were allowing to lie and make fools of all

[@switchbladekid1365]

And remember, the Grand Jury voted to indict the Ramseys but the district attorney chose not to.

[@foxyauragems6146]

@@switchbladekid1365 looking at the evidence it looks like a ritual murder.

[@maryjocassell48]

Not a fun thing to bring up, but Female perpetrators of child sexual abuse is the most underreported form of sexual abuse next to rape itself. This happened in my friends upstanding family, the Mother was abusing her own children.

[@dianerobb6229]

In side job

[@user-pf3uw8oh9d]

Because they have money.

[@angelarenee8683]

Patsy indeed wrote the ransom note, and the murderer was someone, within in that family. Patsy or Burke are the two people I look at. John Ramsey tied the garote and helped stage the crime. They all took part in some way. The experts who paneled up on the TV special, all agreed with the evidence on hand, that it was Burke, and that the parents staged it as an intruder, to protect their son. Burke in turn threatened to sue. Everything used to commit the crime, came from inside the home. Who writes a 3 page ransom note, wanting the exact amount of John Ramsey's bonus, threatens to kill their child, kills her anyway, never calls when the ransom deadline comes and goes. The Ramsey's didn't even say a word, that the deadline had come and gone. John goes straight to the basement, and finds Jonbenet first, they didn't set the house alarm, Patsy didn't even change her clothes, after returning home, John Ramsey stated he read Jonbenet a bedtime story, before putting her to bed, then later changed his story, ect. So many convenient and misleading coincidences, and after all these years of not cooperating with the police, and lawyering up, they have their stories together, in stone, and they stand by it. Patsy is dead, and of course John doesn't mind if they run the DNA now, and look for the killer, at this point. He's already lived a full life, half dead looking himself, and his son wouldn't be charged, because they said the most that would happen to him at that age, was some counseling or a mental facility, in the state of Colorado. Detective John Thomas was right all along. The only way this case will be solved at this point, is a confession. Otherwise there will be no justice for Jonbenet.

[@sabine4759]

I agree! This "intruder" is far-fetched and ridiculous!

[@mrkipling2201]

It's very strange. I think the family had something to do with it. Maybe it wasn't murder, but an accident. It certainly is one of the weirdest cases I've ever heard about.

[@barbaraspector6689]

I agree with you.

[@barbaraspector6689]

@@mrkipling2201 Sick family.

[@Kitten210421]

WRONG . And ignorant . Stick to your day job .

[@christiansoldier77]

If it was an intruder then the ransom note becomes a huge problem. So its not plausible that it was an intruder

[@maryjocassell48]

Absolutely. You might like Unsolved No More with Retired cold case Detective Ken Mains. His take on the Ransom note is quite telling.

[@MsSlimFace]

I agree. There's also the suitcase. I believe that it would not have remained standing if an intruder used it to exit by that basement window. The force of a person's weight applied in pushing off from it to get out certainly would have knocked it over on its side. Now they're saying two intruders...all the more likely that the suitcase would not have remained standing.

[@maryjocassell48]

Also, Supervisory FBI Agent Jim Clemente stated that when you have a staged kidnapping, 99 percent of the time it is a parent involved.☮️💜

[@MsSlimFace]

@@maryjocassell48 Another thing that bothers me is the location of JonBenet's bedroom. If we presume that she was indeed the target of an intruder, how did he know where it was? Well, from the premise that her location was known to the intruder, we could infer that he was familiar with the household and well-known to the Ramseys. No matter how hard I try to be open-minded, I keep coming back to family. At this late date, I don't believe this case will ever be solved.

[@maryjocassell48]

@@MsSlimFace I totally agree.🥀🥀🥀🥀

[@chattahuffman5117]

The other case is nothing like the Ramsey case. These people cannot even agree on a theory.

[@kathy9513]

Why the ransom letter , 3 long pages.....when jonbenet is dead on that basement floor........

[@sparklemotion86]

As a distraction.

[@micenabled9418]

I feel like Burke will tell the actual truth when John dies

[@susantaulli6580]

Burke doesn't know the truth. Neither did Patsy.

[@amberlarissa1726]

Hopefully John kicks the can soon!

[@pinehawk9600]

Its September 21st 2023 and no one has been arrested..

[@exs3574]

The problem about this case and the main reason why it will never be resolved is that everything has been totally messed up from the get go. They knew exactly what they were doing. And if something was clear enough to be questioned at any stage the police covered it up. That's why we will never know. One of them has already taken the truth to hell. The other one still here but hope he will get there soon as well...

[@thesaint5619]

Hi tec boots were standard issue boots for law enforcement at the time and also Burke owned a pair of hitec boots just leave this there

[@kushsdotcom1473]

The son probably also had similar hand writing to the mother.

[@Kitten210421]

He was 9 and in pajamas . These were a man’s size boot and the DNA on the child and under her nails belonged to nobody in that house . Ignorant people who haven’t done their research shouldn’t comment .

[@thesaint5619]

@Kitten210421 as said above standard issue for law enforcement read the comment you clown

[@tinfoilhatcovidiot]

Lol. That is a ridiculous comment. You probably got the jab.

[@thesaint5619]

@Kitten210421 it's not possible to see what size the boots was as it's only the logo and small pattern left so wind your neck in

[@viviancaulkins5858]

This would be a plausible theory if it were not for the 4 fibers from Patsy Ramsey’s clothing on the duct tape, NO fingerprints on the ransom note even though Patsy Ramsey held it.. I could go on and on…

[@theramseycase]

Also her fibers in the knots of the “garrote”, the paint tote and according to August 2000 transcripts of a sit down with in the DA’s office, John’s wool fibers were in her underwear (that appear to be a random pair from what was supposed to be a gift meant for a relative since this particular pair was meant for someone twice JonBenet’s size!)…

[@viviancaulkins5858]

@@theramseycase I’m unsure of some of what you are saying, I know that the underwear was from a gift that Patsy Ramsey had intended for someone else. I am not aware of any evidence from the garrote.. I’m assuming that there were gloves on while this murder was being committed, as there was no touch DNA evidence anywhere..

[@theramseycase]

@@viviancaulkins5858 Yup there were likely gloves but these are fibers from their clothing I’m referring to. There’s a clip from the doc “Searching for a Killer” on my Channel where Patsy is questioned. John was as well. I’ll post a link to the transcript (to find what I’m talking about, if using Windows hit CTRL+F on your keyboard and in the little window that drops to the upper right type “fiber” and you’ll find what I’m talking about.)

[@theramseycase]

@@viviancaulkins5858 here are the links: www.acandyrose.com/2000ATL-Patsy-Interview-Complete.htm www.acandyrose.com/2000ATL-John-Interview-Complete.htm

[@viviancaulkins5858]

@@theramseycase Thanks very much. I had no idea about any other fibers then what had been on the duct tape.. If this is true, this is unbelievable!!

[@claudettes9697]

It is 18 years later and they are still talking about dna evidence. What failures. Also, I’m really enjoying the ads. It’s so much fun, we’ve come so far. The eternity for men ad, I have to find that smell. Thank you for the upload.

[@ratchow6338]

The intruder theory is garbage.

[@captainpandabear1422]

You say this based on what? A lot of accomplished profilers seem to think it's the most likely. John Douglas is a legend in the field.

[@hlowrylong]

Where did the DNA come from? And seriously, saying the underwear manufacturer is the dumbest thing I’ve heard … wouldn’t every case find DNA from random Indian Chinese Mexican Guadalajaran Bangladeshi factory workers? So dumb.

[@deathpunch23]

It was an intruder. It was a demon intruding into patsys mind lol.

[@Emy53]

When people don't get answers to what they feel should be an easy case to solve, they begin making up scenarios. This tragedy needs to be solved and put to rest.

[@nd7895]

I don’t like that Jon Benet’s hair is bleached blonde. Her hair was much much darker when she was younger.

[@maryjocassell48]

I'd heard that Patsy put makeup on Jon benet even when she wasn't doing a pageant, not certain though.

[@mizzlaura]

Patsy must have also put contacts in her eyes because many of the announcers at her contests say she's blonde hair and green eyed and many pictures prove she has green eyes but a lot of pictures also show she has blue eyes and many people who have investigated the case have described her as a blue eyed girl

[@karinknittel7719]

If you feel not save, why not fixing your basement window, that was broken? And why do you NOT turn the alarm on , when leaving the house?? You had how many burglaries in your neighborhood ?

[@johnblackbird7523]

Everyone knows who did it

[@sparklemotion86]

John Ramsey

[@ticesine6589]

Thanks for the upload

[@Emy53]

It's possible that someone entered the house when they left, and had plenty of time to write a note, but that person also had to know about John Ramsey's bonus. The perpetrator made sure to not leave their DNA, but the huge mistake the Ramsey's made was have all those friends trampling all over that house, touching everything, including the letter. That makes them appear suspicious.

[@rodriguezthiago318]

Was this infomercial payed by the Ramseys? 😆

[@theramseycase]

Pretty much!!!

[@mizzlaura]

What annoys me about Patsy is how smug she is in her interviews, she reminds me of Mitchell Quy a man who murdered his wife at Christmas and he told family, friends and police she'd ran away with her lover leaving her two kids with him, he also did numerous television pleadings and interviews for her 'to come back home safe and sound to her family' he was really smug as well when he was being questioned by interviewers because he knew he'd killed her and he knew that he was sending the police on a wild goose chase looking for his living wife knowing she was dead all along and Patsys the same she looks and acts all smug because she knows even if the police did find evidence that they killed their kid they'd never be charged because the scene was so badly botched their lawyers would have no problem throwing cross contamination in it and getting them off, she also thought she was smarter than everyone else and she wasn't, the more her and John opened their mouths the more they proved how dumb they are, no wonder so many people believe she was drugged in early interviews and if they're right then it was probably to stop her running her mouth

[@mizzlaura]

@nbenefiel Just because the DNA doesn't match theirs it doesn't mean they weren't involved, how else do you explain fibres from Patsys jumper that she wore the night before and the next morning being on the duct tape used on Jonbenets mouth? The jumper was either on Patsy or in her presence the entire night so how did it end up on the tape if it wasn't her or her husband?

[@mizzlaura]

@nbenefiel Also the DNA on her is touch DNA and it's two small pieces found on her, if they'd found hair, blood, saliva, semen, vaginal fluids, skin cells etc on her which weren't theirs and it could completely exonerate them then fine but it's not like that and imo this DNA shouldn't completely exonerate them because it only proves it's not theirs and that they may have had someone else's help

[@carinarosen6679]

Patsy Ramsey knew who did it. They need to ask the Nanny who else would come to the house on a regular basis. Like perhaps John's oldest son? What about if Patsy had a lover?

[@LNMBEATS]

The nanny isnt allowed to talk about it

[@stevensmith2085]

@@LNMBEATS why who says ?

[@darincampbell171]

Where a lot of people are missing it is that this is NOT a DNA case. That profile does not identify her murderer. Not at all. That DNA, for all we know, is the profile of the worker who helped package those underwear from overseas. That would help to explain why there is no match. If I had to guess a suspect other than the Ramseys, I would have to vote for Michael Helgoth. The facts around him are just too much of a coincidence. Period! Peace.

[@DeedeeSch1]

Kidnappers always sit in the home and write a three page letter to the family! NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@viviancaulkins5858]

Your doing a great job at getting these great videos!!

[@theramseycase]

Thank you! If you happen to come across anything new or underseen regarding this case, let me know!

[@viviancaulkins5858]

@@theramseycase Absolutely! Have you heard of the “Sealed plea bargain offer “ by Patsy Ramsey’s attorney, Linn Wood. The plea bargain agreement which stated that Jon Benet fell down the staircase and hit her head on a small object “ This was evidently sealed and not disclosed to the public. I would love to know if this actually happened. A detective in the case told a psychiatrist about the offer. Marcel Eflers talks about it in a video. “The plea bargain agreement “ he seems to be a valid forensic profiler who also wrote a book, “The final chapter , Jon Benet Ramsey “ If this is true, this pretty much sums up this case! I have heard almost nothing about this. Would love to know if there is any validity to it!

[@viviancaulkins5858]

This was evidently stated by Patsy Ramsey in exchange for no charges. I guess that this was not accepted by the DA

[@theramseycase]

YES! I cannot remember how in-depth it was discussed but I think the book The Last Christmas of JonBenet II by Laurence L. Smith discusses the plea bargain. I skim-read it when I had a free trial on Scribd. I had never heard about this plea bargain before that. He claimed he got the info from Judith Phillips (former Ramsey friend) if I am remembering correctly.

[@viviancaulkins5858]

@@theramseycase It’s in the Steve Thomas book as well. If this is true that Patsy Ramsey’s attorney made this offer to the DA then this is huge! WHY cop a plea to a crime which you did not commit? This was told to a psychiatrist on the Ramsey case by a lead detective. It sounds like this has been kept top secret. But if this is in fact true, then we know who did it. What audacity that the Ramsey’s went on to sue people and had the nerve to go on nationwide TV denying their involvement..

[@Godasecond321]

I bet that genealogy would figure it out overnight someone call them and tell them

[@bonniemagpie9960]

The neighbour heard a scream from The Ramsey home between midnight and two in the morning. If Jonbenet died during the time of that scream, then the ransom note was very pointless if there was an intruder.

[@AW-mf6oe]

8:58 his face has deceit all over it

[@MsAdventure531]

Non-deceptive behavior.

[@georgeoakwood7282]

Burke hit her, in the train room, Burke tried to wake her up with train track piece, John dictated the note to Pasty, John fashioned the garrote, Pasty duct taped the mouth (red sweater fiber under tape

[@katie4aday511]

John posthumiously sexually assaulted her with the broken brush stick to pretend it was an intruder..

[@theajones6080]

Her Brother did not have the strength to cause her massive internal brain injury. Listen to Patseys 911 call. The fear in her voice is real.

[@birdie9240]

@@theajones6080 silly to say he didn’t have the strength to do with it. with a huge flashlight and anger he very well could do that. Her little skull was still soft, not a fully developed adult skull. the parents are innocent other than trying to cover for burke.

[@emiliadavis8247]

@@birdie9240 I used to think that about Burke too, but those who aren't in denail and realize it was the Ramseys who are guilty, know Burke was awake and heard on that 911 call. He asked, "what did you find?" And John Ramsey responded gruffly with, " We're not talking to you right now. " I wonder why the parents lied other than to cover for him, or themselves. I've read all the great books about it, with almost each one having a different opinion about which Ramsey did it. I still can't decide. Burke was surely wierd in his interview with Dr. Phil.

[@birdie9240]

@@emiliadavis8247 agreed. So many differing stories and that ransom note is the only thing that makes it hard not to think the murder was closer to home than an intruder. I Really believe in patsy’s and John’s innocence. I just don’t think that parents are lying in bed on a night after a Christmas party and are going on a trip the next day say to themselves “ya know what!? I’m gunna go drag my child in the basement and viciously and brutally murder her!” It’s just all the other things that surround this case makes it less black and white than it would be otherwise. The killer is close, even if it’s not in the family. So sad it will probably never be solved. Hopefully one day there will be a death bed confession.

[@Emy53]

Why is the Bolder police hell bent on not accepting the evidence of the high tech boots and the stunt gun? What about the DNA match?

[@thebackgardenfarmer8385]

This is one I've not seen, thanks. Do you find that regardless of what documentary, they're all biased one way or the other, and you have to take what you can from the overall information of all

[@theramseycase]

Honestly, I would recommend using these documentaries as a jumping point a do your own research rather than taking what they present on camera as fact (the fingernail DNA being a “a match” with the long johns/underwear etc is a flat out lie).

[@thesaint5619]

Absolutely nearly all the documentation video has atleast 1 bit of good information in there no matter which pov it's biased towards. For me cbs 3 parter was the definitive and most likely to being most of the way there

[@theramseycase]

@@thesaint5619 I felt it definitively destroyed any notion of an intruder for me but there were flaws

[@thesaint5619]

@@theramseycase definitely agree

[@thebackgardenfarmer8385]

@@thesaint5619 that one is certainly one of the more evidence investigative ones, but it still had its bias. As much as I'm the bdi camp, they set out that documentary with that in mind and leaned in that direction from the start. I'd love to see a purely evidential non biased documentary made one day. I find the 'a candy rose' website is great for sourcing just the evidence and no leaning to any one theory

[@fifi19ism]

I'm starting to think that the person who did this worked at the boulder police force and they are covering it up.

[@heathermurphy9359]

Yeah exactly what I'm feeling. Its just how determined they are to sweep this under the rug.

[@raydavison4288]

Lou Smit was smitten by the Ramseys. He let his religion get in the way of clear thinking. 😮

[@BRAIRCO]

Here there was some accident or some beating that caused his death and they spent the whole night thinking about what to do. The ransom letter was written by one of the Ramseys, and there was never an intruder, throughout the night they prepared the crime scene. The murderer is the father, mother or brother......accidentally or premeditated.

[@collegeri]

I never heard this business about Helgoth’s boot. How can this be explained away?

[@theramseycase]

This documentary is BS. Burke (I don't think he did it) admitted he owned a pair of hi-tec boots. The boot prints weren't even necessarily made at the time the crime was committed if I'm remembering correctly.

[@liquidmetal9647]

Why does John always find a way to state such uncanny stuff without anyone ever noticing it? @3:20

[@karinknittel7719]

.....because he is a super manipulator

[@YouButter]

We notice those that are paid off don’t say they do.

[@Emy53]

It had to be someone that knew the Ramseys and waited for them to return. They familiarized themselves with the layout of the home, and waited for their return. But what about the pineapple in her stomach? Who served her pineapple? The Ramsey's having friends over, tampered with evidence. Maybe they didn't think so at the time, but their DNA all over that house, at a crime scene, was a bad decision on the Ramsey's part. I do not believe it was Burke at all.

[@AttilaTheSwampWitch]

What’s with the stupid watermark?

[@B.Ramsey]

Could have everyone’s dna in the world but still won’t find a match lol

[@kokokat584]

Why didn't the Ramsey's sue the tabloids with the fake stories?

[@thebackgardenfarmer8385]

I don't think America has that same set of journalistic standards as other countries. Which is why their national enquirer is still an active paper 😅

[@thesaint5619]

They were masters of pr were the Ramseys incredible how they stayed outta court. A poor family would have banged up immediately

[@thebackgardenfarmer8385]

@@thesaint5619 yep just like the mccanns, money and postion gave them protective power

[@mariawilliamson3522]

I think this would be different if they knew the law Burke was to young to face any charges. But they thought they was gonna lose both kids

[@susantaulli6580]

all that bluster and bullshit and 18 years later still unsolved.

[@angelawhite3387]

So was the suitcase already by the window? Are there PRY MARKS on the outside of the window? Are the feet prints inside coming or goin?

[@Riylin]

John Ramsey locked himself out in August 96 and broke the lock on the basement window to get in. He didn’t replace it.

[@rmichaud47]

Unfortunately it will never be solved. The crime scene was tainted with everyone DNA and was not kept track of until way too late. I think the parents should be a suspect for sure though. It just doesn't make sense about the pineapple. Parents said they 100% did not feed her pineapple yet they found pineapple in her stomach. They later found the bowl of on the kitchen table with milk. Jonbenet had often ate fruit with milk, almost like cereal. The ransom note was made out to be almost the same amount as the bonus the father had received from work. It scares me to think they would do it because yes they seem normal.

[@theramseycase]

The prints were hers. Patsy’s fibers were found in the knots of the garrote. John’s were found in her underwear.

[@ricardolozano5356]

like the zodiac killer

[@ladyeva8651]

@@theramseycase The interview with Dr Phil Burke smiling,if Burk is innocent why does he smile?why is he guilty but above all his smile isn't he supposed sad ???????????so why smile because is guilty

[@theramseycase]

@@ladyeva8651 He's nervous. I often do the same thing. From what I have gathered he's a recluse with anxiety and was nowhere near ready to give an interview on a national television show. He said a few things that I cringed at. To be honest the creepiest thing said during that whole three part episode, was uttered by John Ramsey. He said "The real story here isn't that a child was murdered. The real story here was how were treated by the police and and an unjust system." Something like that. It's on my youtube page as well as a video where I lay out several different theories (the best I could with the footage I could get around youtube's Copyright Restrictions). Look at the video on my youtube channel "Who Killed JonBenet (Re-Edit)" and I think it's obvious as day who did it and it is not Burke and as much as I would like to point the finger at John I can't due to lack of evidence.

[@ladyeva8651]

@@theramseycase patsy is monster

[@andrewcross8244]

I’ve thought from day one it was probably some sick pedophile that attended these pageants and knew where they lived. Probably followed them home. I think ANY parent who involves their kid in these pageant things are just exposing them to the worst scumbags of the worst. I honestly think these pageant things should NOT let random people in. It would at least help

[@user-kn1uo9uy2i]

Parents are involved , police covered up.

[@headless.scents]

If it was an external predator,, then why have they not struck again after that? Assault and murder like that, the never do something like that just once.

[@user-wy3kk4im8j]

Are the cops blind the parents had something to do with it it's a fact

[@theramseycase]

If memory serves me correctly, the people in this video are private investigators who were hired by the Ramseys (I can't remember if Lou Smit was featured in this...he was a part of the investigation initially but left and misrepresented information to the public in documentaries like this one. This documentary, like all Intruder theory documentaries in this particular case, is basically propaganda.)

[@JayB2]

Ok if Patsy didn't do it they still need to explain the Ransom note. I'm wondering if it's possible that Patsy AND an intruder were in cahoots TOGETHER in this. I'm just stuck on the Ransom note. An outsider supposedly knew the EXACT amount of money the father was getting in his Bonus check? Um.....not likely.

[@maryjocassell48]

Please check out Unsolved No More with Retired cold case Detective Ken Mains. His take on the Ransom note is quite telling.

[@JayB2]

@@maryjocassell48 thanks I checked it out! Yes he did change some of my options on the case.

[@maryjocassell48]

@@JayB2 You're so welcome! Have a great weekend!😋😎

[@stevenmcghee6649]

It wasn't the exact amount but it was close.

[@sparklemotion86]

There was no evidence of an intruder

[@amaliamejia7277]

Possibly some weirdo followed them after the Christmas parade to there home because she was in the public eye Or someone close to the family who new about John's bonus or someone who knew about the family and the whole house plan just my opinion

[@ljubadavidovac6588]

So you found by DNA analysis who has written the ransom note, haven't you? Wow, a great spin!

[@elainespoetry1]

Boulder police are an utter disgrace! Looks like that can’t close any case!

[@kingtarly499]

The dna sample was from a sweatshop who made the underwear. This was a torture session gone wrong

[@davidfrontini829]

Maybe someone could approach the producers who produced the American, Australian and New Zealand versions of the series of Sensing Murder to do a production and review of the murder of Jon Benet Ramsay and related murders and see if they could find the killer or killers in those cases and the obvious links to other cases of other assaults and related murders as well.😢

[@theramseycase]

Or perhaps the murderer was in the house and is now deceased?

[@tylerderdin7691]

The narrative that they put about the Ramseys not being involved is downright comical. The stun gun that was disproven many times =comical as well. The high tech boot was found to be BR's. This show sucks. You need to look no further than JR to find your guilty party . These dipshits will blame anyone , just like JR . Now it is an intruder with a baseball cap dressed in all black ....😂

[@oliviajohnjohnolivia8142]

Maybe the mother was jealous of her little girl.

[@roguexnation]

Edit this too many commercials.

[@Dragonfly657]

When are Cops and DAs going to do their job correctly as soon as they went to Randy’s house I would have let everyone go!!!!

[@matwilson7904]

To bad they didnt pull the phone records or check with the power company to see if power was used that night, and is there a way of seeing if that gurot was used more than just that one night.

[@emiliadavis8247]

Excellent point about wondering if the garrote was used previously! Especially since there was true evidence of her being sexually abused for a while.

[@Emy53]

So what did this report reveal? Nothing at all...more speculations and still no arrests, only more questions.

[@graciewhite8108]

Just a few minutes listening this sounds like another paid for influenced nonobjective program. Paid for by the Ramsey's of course. Reading books by the various individuals involved in the case provides information the media will never cover or include. Thanks for posting. Best 🥰

[@crypticbarbiegirl]

Still I think there's so much wrong in her family..if it was a madman intruder then why no one ever talked about some other missing or killed child in the area?.

[@theramseycase]

There wasn’t an intruder. This documentary is propaganda

[@crypticbarbiegirl]

@@vicksta8875 I'm totally agreed with you. Who knows maybe the child was giving them any troubles...like..she didn't want to be a star anymore? They killed her for that or maybe accidentally and wanted to use it anyway to make more money. I bet this couple didn't love their children. It is said they were giving more care to Jon Benet and not to her brother...but it sounds like...they all were caring about was to earn money. Sounds so narcissistic/psychopath thing..insane

[@AbbyS.Pumpkins]

Did law enforcement get John Andrew’s DNA?

[@susantaulli730]

I believe Helgoth was murdered.

[@theramseycase]

He was ruled out a long time ago. Have a look at a this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bqCrnWeQoZKoh7s and this one: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bqCrnWeQoZKoh7s

[@lorio5003]

i hate to be gory, but what exactly is the blood from? i read the autopsy report. it was a closed head wound. no obvious signs of sexual trauma. so when they talk about JB's blood- how? i've seen elsewhere there was blood on the nightgown and that went for testing too. it's crazy to think someone could get away with this for so long.

[@sparklemotion86]

You're seriously misinformed

[@Emy53]

I don't care what anyone feels about this, but children are vulnerable just being kids, and this child was sexualized. All the costumes and makeup to a child predator, is like a calling card.

[@iamthepapi6251]

I don't care what anyone says. The note that was found, and the fact that the dad found her right after the investigator told him to go look around the house for anything that's off or out of place, tells me all I need to know. I think they killed her.

[@rainbowgirlism]

I don’t understand why though.😢

[@sparklemotion86]

@@rainbowgirlism dad killed her. He didn't want her to reveal that he was sexually abusing her

[@blairadini]

Maybe a cop was responsible for her death

[@Emy53]

How do they know the perpetrator had a cap turned around?

[@Emy53]

Was Hellgar's DNA compared, and was it his? This is the first time I have heard this name.

[@blairadini]

I think it could be someone from the police department could be the real killer that is trying to take the focus away from the real suspects.

[@rmhd7550]

It was the parents themselves

[@poodook]

Who do you think did it?

[@theramseycase]

Patsy

[@poodook]

@@theramseycase why not Burke?

[@theramseycase]

@@poodook There is little evidence pointing toward him and both scenarios with the Burke theory don’t make much sense to me?

[@amberlarissa1726]

Remember the interview where Burke said “oh” to the pineapple question?.. some sort of argument must have broken out about it that night..

[@poodook]

@@amberlarissa1726 agreed. I think Burke did it

[@tashia6683]

I have always believed that it was an intruder who killed that sweet girl! The police never investigated the theory of an intruder because they were to busy trying to frame the parents. This case hasn’t been solved bc of the incompetence of the police department and their investigation.

[@jennifermcgoldrick6323]

Why would Patsy write a fake ransom note if it was an intruder? Gtfoh

[@__SummerRose]

Where’s the evidence of an intruder?

[@hayleyferguson3346]

There were no footprints outside in the snow.

[@Plainandsimple25]

The police spent months chasing up leads, they looked into scored of suspects

[@MsAdventure531]

@@hayleyferguson3346there was no snow...

[@MsSlimFace]

Not buying the 2 intruders theory. I don't believe two sets of boot prints rules out members of the household. The leaves. webs, and debris on the sill of the basement window would surely have been more disturbed, if not completely obliterated, had 2 intruders entered and exited there. That's 4 times total in and out. Same type of situation with the suitcase: 2 exits. Surely the suitcase would not have remained standing after 2 intruders exited by pushing off from it to get to the window. Then there's the ransom note...

[@pauly1148]

Then there’s the wine cellar door being latched from the outside

[@tinanesbitt650]

Put the killer in prison

[@buffalomind6838]

One question out of a hundred I have is was it legal for this part in Boulder to be a child molester colony? And did Jon & or Patsy have any knowledge of this part of Boulder being a child molesting colony?

[@christiansoldier77]

Buffalo Mind Boulder is not a child molester colony . There are sex offenders in every county, city, town and community in the country

[@buffalomind6838]

@@christiansoldier77 from the reports there are an enormous amount of child molesters in and around there in comparison to what was thought by outsiders not familiar to the apparent horrors that is strife in that particular part of Colorado. I don’t mean to be offensive to where you live, but the percentages are mind blowing especially when the thought was it was a relatively safe community for children in particular.

[@christiansoldier77]

@@buffalomind6838 Child molesters are everywhere in every state

[@MsAdventure531]

@@buffalomind6838 please cite your source for this information. I’m genuinely interested.

[@darincampbell171]

I assume that, with 38 sex offenders in the area of the Ramsey’s home, that police got DNA samples from them all? I would damn hope so! Peacel

[@phataton7588]

47:00 The show uses the term “Groups of individuals” This is a propaganda job FOR the Ramseys

[@TheyCallMeGlitchDash]

Ed Edwards tho