M14 EBR: 5 Years of Ownership

[@jones10395]

I’m still around guys. I plan to do a decade of ownership video at some point. I still have the same rifle, but it now has a 35x Night Force ATACR on top.

[@robertezell1916]

Young man I really enjoyed your review of your weapon. As an old M14 guy, I can tell you, you have a good grasp of this weapons system. I own a BULA DEFENSE M21 and I think you will be amazed. I also have a custom built M21 on a Winchester milled receiver with a Hart barrel and it truly is a .75" moa platform with my hand loads. I run 173 gr through it. All total I have 12 of these weapons, half Springfield M1A and the others all milled receiver weapons. I will say my most fun one has got to be one of my SOCOM 16’s. One CQB SOCOM 2 and the other a first gen SOCOM 16. Add a SOCOM 16 to your wish list. I think you would love it! Really enjoyed your review! Keep your old warhorse running and turn some more guys and gals on to M14 platform weapons. Your a good ambassador for it. Oh, I have a SAGE stock, just a little hesitant to stick it on one. You helped me make up my mind.

[@THEH2OMAN]

Significance of the barrel whip screw: For best accuracy you position the screw a hair above the barrel, but not touching the barrel. The screw is designed to act as a bump stop that minimizes barrel whip without adversely affecting accuracy, it is not designed to remain in contact with the barrel. I like your video and the subject matter, I started shooting the EBR 09/2004, I love modern chassis stocks for these rifles.

[@mohawksniper79]

I live in Ontario canada were it gets dam cold and I can tell you from using for over ten years they work good in the cold and drop deer in the spot my rifle has a polish trigger national match spring guide and spring synthetic stock 4×16×44 mildot scope got it set up like a Vietnam m14 rifle. And it puts them in there at 100 yards better them any other semi iv shot. My uncle was a Canadian sniper in Afghanistan and Iraq and he was impressed.

[@takeahike2993]

Meticulous amount of information, professionally presented. Thanks for the unbiased, hands on, long term review.

[@enigmatic51me95]

Wow...your ytube on the EBR is totally outstanding...well done...good voice, tone tenner, information , results, opinions, options said...I wish there were more like yours!

[@kaiul2967]

As a lefty, I sling to the side to prevent charging handle discomfort. I run a Sadlak scope mount which is a solid system but I did have to grind down the top rail cover to fit. I just got the Socom 16 which I will swap into the EBR chassis and run my 22 inch in a traditional style stock. Great vid and great rifle, thanks!

[@whiskeyactual.]

Awesome editing and commentary. Beautiful build, hope you keep her in the family forever.

[@nhb2722]

Well explained and for the list of tools required. I planning to buy this in 3-4 months and add it as my third collection.

[@jerrydonquixote5927]

I've only shot the rifle in the US Navy in the Persian Gulf War we used them on the ship for small boat attack and we kept one on the bridge always. I remember when I qualified I had to shoot 10 rounds in each position and I remember when I shot him probably about 3 seconds per shot I didn't like most people take 15 seconds in between shots and I kept a group we were shooting only on the flight deck the helo pad and I fell in love with that rifle I've done a lot of shooting in my life so shooting that gas action 308 was nice compared to shooting a bolt action 308 or 30-06 amazing rifle! I don't know if I have enough money to get into it and keep it running right but I sure do love them, I think they're the finest rifle ever made minus the cons but the pros badass looking tough and badass looking hard to beat!

[@andrewleone5530]

I was very close to getting the EBR chassis but went with the arch angel marksman stock which is very light, super snug and good looking.

[@dakodajbraswell]

I trust my m1a with my life. I've had ar10's and the m1a holds its reliability and ease of maintenance over it in my opinion. I've shot mine in dirt, mud, sand and never had an issue. Just weight is the biggest thing about this rifle. Work around that and you'll have yourself an amazing weapon.

[@thefifthbelfry92]

Can we get a 10 years later

[@jones10395]

Haha I’ll see what I can do!

[@Full_Otto_Bismarck]

I second this motion lol

[@clintonscanlon1325]

Finally got my M1A EBR set up. With the scout squad 18in barrel I was averaging around 1.8 MOA with all kinds of ammo. Federal Gold Medal Match 175gr netted me an average of 1.4 MOA. I love mine because its not just another AR-10. It sure takes more to get set up, but is a tremendously fun gun to shoot.

[@ogasiheroin1134]

Sir where dl i buy a silncer?

[@kurt53641]

Join this group. SEI does give always in it. facebook.com/groups/404993216974308/?ref=share

[@sirmount9156]

Well done review, thank you. My boss is trying to talk me into an EBR for my SOCOM CQB w/votex red dot, seems like a good idea.

[@javierguevara3216]

Got one no regrets but got in all together...

[@curtislarson1487]

My scout has a ebr and a 4x14x56 My loaded has a j Allen with a 4x14x56 . I've hade it for 20 years I miss having a open sighted one in a jungle stock like it was for many years Mine Love 168 grain hpbt 42.3 grains of win 748

[@dillmann8862]

The M14 is 98% iron, it can be lightened easily

[@squib3083]

awesome video. thank you for sharing your experience on the EBR build.

[@dillmann8862]

Its 2017, they have alloys that can easily take this weight below 8 lbs....I worked for an aluminum distributor. I saw them test aluminum for ships to space travel and these were the most intense tests imaginable. There is definitely a alloy mix that can be used to lighten this weapon. Remember that the military keeps putting this rifle to pasture only to keep calling it back into service...

[@evanpilot]

dill mann what alloy would you use?

[@dillmann8862]

@@evanpilot Aluminum ( the miracle medal) would be a great start

[@NicolasPetrali93]

we need an 11 year ownership video!

[@iceman-om9dd]

Dang I0 years and still being amazing

[@joeljoel233]

Great review. Super informative. Thank you.

[@sbSOAP141]

Yeah that's great info and all, but how good can you 360° no scope with this bad boy?

[@fazelongbone7414]

Get gud

[@pharrshot6668]

Scrubby-Scrub Scrub, git guud bub.

[@hammstah9578]

Great stuff, Jones!

[@SandMDOTCOM1]

Great review!

[@Drew-rl4zq]

Two of the cons you listed are due to the sage ebr. The national match stock you rifle came in was bedded to the action for better accuracy and is lighter than the sage

[@chrispatton4219]

Excellent video

[@marcuse4594]

Hell of a choice of weapons Jones I respect you learned and trained with the system and didn't try to buy proficiency thanks for the viedos on the EBR your pretty much the only game in town for the M14 EBR version I get about 2-3 inch groups with my M1A I was thinking of going Sage chassis to tighten up those groups when you put your chassis on did your groups tighten up as well?

[@dillmann8862]

Even thats a lot for M1 A1.....should be at 1.5 out of box, maybe trigger...also wind, get sand bags to hold down...Take care!

[@dillmann8862]

Play with your sights

[@pliskenx51mm83]

@@dillmann8862 M1A is picky on ammo. I've found mine really like 150 to 168 gr .308 bullets. M80 ball or 147gr ammo gets about 3 inch/MOA consistently out of my M1A, which I'll take any day for the cheap plinking ammo.

[@jonw4595]

great video. i have a different cleaning schedule, and seldom break the rifle down. the more you break down the m1a/m305, the more you risk loosing bedding integrity.

[@jones10395]

Jon W correct, but EBRs aren’t bedded.

[@Doc.Holiday]

Jones10395.... true statement, wood stocks develop wear tolerances from being broken down. Composite, as in Archangel to a lesser degree. Aluminum,... not so much, so break it down and clean her up.

[@richardp8669]

Jones, I just moved into a used setup that is similar. I wanted to pick your mind. I noticed there is a gap, approximately 1 cm in height between the back of my Sage Cantilever Sight Base and the rear (what I believe is a) sight leaf extension. Am I missing a couple pieces that are supposed to link the rear set screw of the Sight Base to the top of the gun? Thanks! Rick

[@jones10395]

Richard Price I think I understand what you’re describing. From what it sounds like, you have everything you need. The rear screw that connects into the stripper clip guide of the rifle is just there for alignment, it doesn’t actually screw into anything.

[@patgray5402]

Excellent information.

[@rangerdanger766]

used to shoot high power for guard in the 80s. Always wanted one from there on out. Found one in local gun shop 2018. called s.a. with s.n. It was a 1984 supermatch parkerize and walnut. The owner just didnt have interest $1,000 with unlimited ammo for it 118 nato match at $5 a box. problem was I didnt buy the m80 ball he has also

[@georgeferguson9779]

Good video! Thanks!

[@dillmann8862]

Are there any models of M1 A1 that use an aluminum alloy to make it lighter? This seems like it could be an easy fix....and take some weight away. Thanks

[@hunterromano5562]

90% of the weight of the rifle is barrel and gas system. These parts pretty much have to be steel. They're wildly front heavy even without the sage chassis.

[@Airplanetyson]

Do you find taking the chassis apart just to clean it overwhelming/annoying?

[@pharrshot6668]

I'm glad that there's another lefty out there like me. I've wondered how well does this work for a lefty, & my question has been answered. My main question though is, does this chassis system work w/ an M1A in 6.5 Creedmore? From what I understand is is that there's no difference between a gun in .308 & a gun in 6.5 Creedmore, so the specs should all be the same amongst the two, regardless if it's an AR-10 or an M1A but in this instance we're talkin' 'bout an M1A. I do know that the M1A I'm lookin' at is a Springfield Armory but I'm not sure what model it is, but it's equipped w/ a Tan/F.D.E. "tacticool" lookin' stock/chassis, where the pistol grip connects to the stock all "tacticool" like. So yeah, if anyone has any info in regards to my question, I'd greatly appreciate it if that info could be passed on to me. I really would love to have this M1A in 6.5 Creedmore, in a SAGE International E.B.R. chassis system, but I just wanna' make sure the two actually will work together. Thanks!!

[@dexterbaker6346]

I shoot mine lefty no problems

[@tmoore1513]

It’ll work. Good luck getting the chassis tho

[@dillmann8862]

That mud test was bulls hit the way they did it. And mud is easier to wash out....It never hurt M14 in Vietnam.....

[@levylacambra9510]

Correct sir but that rarely happens in actual combat. Thanks

[@KirkGrose]

And the M14 Battle Rifle Forum. Great video bud. Having toted one under combat conditions, i'll agree with 87.6% of your video. But Ian can go pound mud...

[@FarmboyUSMC]

How well do you like the M14DCSB? I just ordered the stock cause I finally found one and I’m debating on the quick detach or a fixed one. On my current M1A I have a Sadlak Mount on it and was leaning towards another one like that. I guess the solid connection of the Sadlak gives me a warm and fuzzy. I’m not sure about the QD. Had you had any issues with it maintaining zero with going on and off as I’ve seen in the video clips? Any info or reply would be greatly appreciated. Also a lefty

[@jones10395]

Travis Young I like the DCSB, it seems to hold zero well. I take off the DCSB (and scope) to clean my rifle when it comes time to do so. I have not noticed any noteworthy change in point of impact, or really any change at all.

[@ahmadjarrad2635]

How much has its value grown by since you bought it?

[@russell1823]

Just bought mine picked it up for a great price. Any recommendations on scope? Was thinking going clone correct with Nightforce

[@jones10395]

Ehh, I’d head over to m14forum.com and ask them. I’ve only had experience with one scope which is in this video, so I’m not the best person to ask. But I do like my Sightron SIII

[@kurt53641]

AJ Russell SWFA SS it Primary Arms are gtg scopes if you are on a budget.

[@kurt53641]

Head over to this group. SEI does parts give aways. facebook.com/groups/404993216974308/?ref=share

[@theduke7539]

Any derivative of the M14 is nothing more than a full power infantry rifle shoved into a DMR role. You like them or you dont. They are badass rifles with a vibe. They are passion project too. the Sage system is the easiest way to mount a scope, and I recommend a sage mount with either a sage chassis or ultimak style upper handguard. If you are brave enough for the Sadlak or ARMS scope mounts. they are awesome, but beware, they are beyond difficult to mount and be perfectly straight.

[@GeorgiaBoy1961]

Bssett Machine out of Texas makes a superb mount which is simplicity itself to mount, performs superbly, and is true zero-hold, meaning that you can uninstall and reinstall your mount + scope without loss of zero. Even comes with an ingenious and lightweight torque wrench. Get the mount with M1913 rails. You'll never regret it. Great piece of kit...

[@Dadecorban]

Good video.

[@alphawolfproductions4861]

Guess it’s a good thing when I build one I’m a left handed person so awesome for me

[@lkimbl31]

What Muzzle Brake did you use

[@mitchellwatters3714]

As someone whose nearly saved up to purchase one of these for myself, is this worth the money to you overall? Is there another rifle you think is more worth it? I’ve always wanted one of these ever since my MW2 days, but it’s definitely a lot of money to part with.

[@jones10395]

My answer depends on weather or not this is your first rifle. If it were your first rifle, I'd suggest starting with a .22 caliber carbine/rifle and mastering that. It's just a good starting point in my opinion. And the .22LR ammo is super cheap, even match ammo! I have a custom Ruger 10/22 in my small collection, my favorite part about it is the Terminator 2 stock from StockysStocks. Anyways, if this is not your first rifle, go for it. You will need some specific tools to include those noted in this video and a few more. You'll need a Sadlak cylinder plug drill (cleans out the carbon), some plstilube, and some time. Shimming the gas cylinder is one of the more important things when installing an EBR chassis. Personally, I find the rifle to be mechanically interesting, so I enjoy cleaning/maintaining it. Usually I'll put on some background noise and spend some time detailing the thing. So, if it's your first, I would not suggest it. If this is not your first, jump in and spend the time to learn the intricacies of the M14.

[@mitchellwatters3714]

Jones10395 Appreciate the response. Not my first, I’ve owned bolt actions and a couple AR’s, but just didn’t end up loving the AR platform.

[@atab555]

Mitchell Watters, I’ve had an M1A for a few years and built it into an EBR about 8 months ago. Not disappointed at all and putting it all together isn’t as daunting as I thought. It is my first long range gun and it’s filling its role nicely. If an AR isn’t your preference then this might be just right for you.

[@pliskenx51mm83]

Mitchell Watters. The M1A was my first semi auto rifle. I've never been disappointed with it, its never jammed or failed. Just an absolutely amazing rifle.

[@nicknaylor9895]

I want one but from what I've searched online, it's cost prohibitive at ~$3500. Is it possible to build one from the ground up on the cheap? I know that sometimes you can get away with that on the AR platform but I was wondering if it was possible on this platform.

[@jones10395]

Nick Naylor So if you buy a complete EBR, it is very expensive. If you purchase an M1A, the the EBR chassis, and install it yourself, it’s a little bit more economical. I bought my rifle for a good deal at around 1650 and I found the EBR stock for 700. That’s more than one grand less than the deal you’re mentioning. As far as building one that’s economical, I’m not the best person to ask. Usually I wait for a deal then buy. Buy once cry once is my philosophy. But fore more tips on building an economical EBR, head over to the M14Forum and ask the people there, they’re very knowledgeable and I’m sure they can help!

[@nicknaylor9895]

@@jones10395 TY, much appreciated.

[@dillmann8862]

@@nicknaylor9895 Ar 10 platform is not as cheap as you might think

[@gangatalishis]

@@jones10395 wow you got an amazing deal on that, how did u get it for some cheap?

[@jones10395]

gangstalishis ebay

[@drewadams5629]

Im getting a m39 emr. Any suggestions of a scope or red dot?

[@OpCharlieBravo]

So I'm assuming you have a heavy profile barrel, does that mean you have to get the M14ALCS-HB?

[@kurt53641]

Good job Airman! You know your stuff! FYI SAI has QC issues. How many rounds you have on it?

[@jones10395]

Thanks! I'm not sure how many rounds I've put through it but I'd estimate ~7,000.

[@kurt53641]

Jones10395 seriously consider this group. SEI gives away parts. You would be a huge asset! facebook.com/groups/404993216974308/?ref=share

[@flopus7]

Solution for right handers: use your right hand to actuate the action. Think of it like a saw, why would you be using an ebr in a situation where you would fire it reflexively in that 1 sec your hand is off the trigger?

[@elvisfreshly5977]

What kinda bipod is that?

[@pauljeffers606]

can you do a tutorial on the lego mk14? or am i just so far up in youre vids i dont see it?

[@ogasiheroin1134]

What bipod do you use?

[@jeffduran9692]

Thanks

[@MrKoVaK94]

does the sage chaise work with the socom version of the rifle?

[@2A1791-t]

Alex Kovak yes the sage chassis will work on the socom M1a

[@abserm8241]

It does , but the look of the rifle you will get after .... :/

[@kcgunner8378]

how's the pro mags

[@jones10395]

Kc Gunner after many modifications, great, with exception to the surface rust.

[@CreepingDeath_]

Go with CheckMate Industries mags. They manufacture the USGI and Springfield magazines. Best you can get

[@ericjill8024]

Good rifle, not taking away from it, however if it’s your first DMR style rifle try to get a DPMS LR308 or a SM10

[@saifiraq1628]

I have been in the Iraqi Army and I am a graduate of the American course my class is a sniper and this was a M14 weapon ..

[@evanpilot]

saif Iraq what’s your opinion on the M14?

[@aaron.from.winchester6744]

Do a video on your PWS Mk216! There are hardly any videos with PWS rifles. I will forever kick myself for not buying Mk218 mod1 when I had the money.

[@GretchentheAlligator]

Such a sexy rifle, I want it so bad!

[@dethroneroyalty8086]

That's a beauty

[@carlostrujillo3854]

Is that barrel stock

[@milehighbeerguy4586]

Wow .. wow

[@DarwinFajardo-y6f]

Interested

[@garrettkroczaleski6651]

How does someone buy this gun? If you can

[@Airplanetyson]

Fulton armory

[@necromanteerrante8095]

Great bro. How much money cost that beauty??

[@HowBoutUHandleDeezNutz]

From 900 to 2K

[@Hohmies86]

10 out of 10 in the prone at 500 yards using iron sights on M16 A2

[@drewadams5629]

I’m pretty weird. I like the Flash suppressor because it looks sexy

[@thewatcher611]

It's not a flash suppressor. It is a muzzle brake.

[@dillmann8862]

Most of the gases and carbon blow off and do not go back into chamber..... A complete disassembly is not as necessary as you think....Maybe after 5000 rounds, but again most of the junk gets blown out before !

[@rangerdanger766]

For sure a super match used to be only taken apart every 2 seasons. q tips with some grease and cleaning rod kept it going

[@maxanderson5217]

From my years of CoD, you cant have more than 5 attachments on the EBR unless your hacking

[@dillmann8862]

Many problems have been reported with AR 10 systems- one is gas system can have problems, in very cold and hot...Remember AR 10 blows all that junk back into bolt and that big round puts out way more than that 556....I went to range with AR 10 ( And I am no fan of ARs) Shot about 300 rounds through it...hand 2 jams and the bolt carrier looked like an ashtray.....took forever to clean

[@wasrad]

neeed a 10 year update lol

[@joshuamoore24_7]

That rifle looks like a military grade EBR!

[@shadowlab9543]

yup thats how i do it as a righty

[@dillmann8862]

A big pro- M14 is reliable!! I would put my life on line with this rifle...Ask a Vietnam vet about M16, and the problems the rifle still has....

[@si_vis_pacempara_bellum4906]

dill mann lmao

[@dillmann8862]

@@si_vis_pacempara_bellum4906 Truth sets us all free....Used the M 4 while I was active duty you can keep that as well

[@ComeOnPelican91]

@@dillmann8862 fanboy, you've commented at least 4 times. you want to put down the AR but everyone knows if you have good mags and lube it's fine. i'd take a scar, fal, or ak variant over anything with a garand action.

[@wddlaw]

@@ComeOnPelican91 I have used all of the variants M16-M4; all had problems.....In the desert that Garand action never failed, nor did it fail in Vietnam......I get the AK and like it, which shares heritage with M14- Tons of stories of AR failing in desert environment....I was there. Great stories about M14 saving the day when half platoon's M 4 were jammed in fire fight. Ask a veteran. M14 is too heavy I get it, that can be fixed....

[@ComeOnPelican91]

@@wddlaw doubt the stories of m14 in the contemporary desert. they aren't as widely used as AR platforms anyway. There are videos on this site of the action failing dust and mud tests. The open action, high bolt mass, overgassed operating system, and the grease dependant offset in the op rod in front of the carrier make it a worse design than even the kalashnikov. I was over generalizing about m4 reliability, it is failing late into its lifecycle in the desert for multiple reasons. Not only for the US armed forces, but ive read the kurdish peshmerga who buy m16s secondhand have issues. The kurds do like the hk416 when they can get them however. i believe the hk416, the canadian c8 carbines, and the lmt carbines with their carrier coatings are the next and last step forward in the evolution of the m16

[@Phillingud]

You could pass as Tom Holland’s older brother.

[@levylacambra9510]

I would prefer a rifle that's 98/ 100 percent steel to one that is made of 70 percent plastics because plastics have the tendency to soften up or even burn specially during combat causing the rifle to jam. Forget the weight for as long as it does no go beyond 15 pounds; this to me is tolerable.

[@aether9713]

Me being left handed but right-eyed so i dont rlly have a choice and shoot righty🥲

[@NoGoBu]

Army should go back to the M-14 🪖🇺🇲🫡

[@rangerdanger766]

very good review but the narration at bottom of page was terrible

[@DaDaW9762]

Why no videos in the last 5 years? You give up son?

[@FrankieMankie]

Wait I thought this was an airsoft gun LOL

[@SWW978]

Shows how popular it is because it looks cool lol

[@loganfisher7325]

Same lmao

[@johnwayne8178]

This is a great video except this is not a m14 it is a m1a

[@deeremeyer1749]

There is no way you have to have a sling set up to have it "right" for going right to shooting and if you'd carry a rifle properly slung for walking or hunting for hours on end "wrong" on your back so it's "comfortable" to carry and actually went walking or hunting that way, you'd find that there is no permanent "comfortable" position for a slung rifle AND that it should be slung OVER YOUR "SHOULDER" INSTEAD OF OVER YOUR BACK. NOBODY BUT ACTUAL "OPERATORS" WHO CARRY FRONT-SLUNG RIFLES OUT OF "NECESSITY" BECAUSE THEY KNOW WHY ALL THE CONS DON'T OUTWEIGH THE PROS OF NOT CARRYING FRONT-SLUNG AND AREN'T DOING SO FOR HIKING OR MARCHING ANYWHERE AND ARE ON THEIR FEET FOR MINUTES RATHER THAN HOURS AND TACTITOOL RANGE-RAMBO COD-COMMANDO WANNABE SOLDIERS WHO AREN'T EVEN SMART ENOUGH TO RECOGNIZE THAT REAL "OPERATORS" ARE FRONT-SLINGING CARBINES AND NOT FREAKING "BATTLE RIFLES" AND SURE AS SHIT NOT 16-18 LB. "ENHANCED BATTLE RIFLES" THAT ARE "ENHANCED" ONLY IN THE MINDS OF FOOLS WHO DON'T KNOW "BATTLE " FROM "COMBAT" AND TAKING AN M1A out of a "lightweight" fiberglass/plastic stock and putting it in a $750 "chassis" is going to make it better for "combat".

[@moorod5213]

Finally someone with some real fucking sense about alings, weight of the rifle and the different from a rapid engagement with this weapon and humping this weapon up and down mountains and hills for weeks at a time.

[@15wylee]

Or u can cat the gun