YouTube Bible Study: Is the Bible SEXIST against women?

[@taylor9575]

all the verses about submission and the verses about women, etc. have frustrated me so much to the point where I almost stopped following God. At the time it seemed to me that God had made me just for my entire world to revolve around some man and I didn't really like that idea. I've come to the conclusion that I should take a long break from dating and just focus on my relationship with God rather than worrying about those verses and being overly frustrated 24/7

[@3self]

Focus on your relationship with yourself.

[@annt.7785]

God created us to be treated like slaves or servants permanently for all eternity, or we'll burn in hell if we don't accept it. I thought we were all supposed to be happy and live happy lives. How are we gonna be happy being slave to men for all eternity? Men wouldn't want to be our slaves and to be constantly looked down upon, so why does God want us to be slaves to them? ugh

[@815-n8e]

@M M same

[@Michelle-ky8qt]

@@annt.7785 I'm a Christian only for Jesus,not for the bible,because the bible is SEXIST,RACIST AND HOMOPHOBIC....And you know why the bible it's all these things?Because men wrote the bible.The bible treats women like objects and sex toys,the bible discriminates LGTB people...Like wtf?I'm ashamed for all the times I said the bible teaches love and compassion when IT'S LITERALLY THE OPPOSITE!The man that wrote the bible is Satan itself.

[@Michelle-ky8qt]

@@annt.7785 I mean,have you noticed all religions treat women like objects and sex slaves?Like Christianity,Islamic and Judaism are against women and are all about men power.Its disgusting!!!Literally! I'm ashamed for all the times I said that the bible teaches love and compassion when it's literally the opposite.

[@IAmNotYourProblem]

I love your points! I just have 1 question, maybe for the next Q&A. 1 Timothy 2:11-12 "A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet." I'm a woman and Christian and this verse has me struggling with my faith because I don't think women were made just so we could just sit pretty and quiet. Verse 11 could be interpreted as that women should learn and be silent so that we can learn without our own voices interfering, and we must submit to the Lord, just like all mankind should. But verse 12 says that women shouldn't teach men nor have power over men, which leads me to think that the bible is sexist and that the writer of this book believed women to be inferior and therefore shouldn't be allowed to teach or speak to a man, but rather sit quietly, like objects. please tell me your thoughts. I really need some guidance from a mentor now.

[@savemeapieceofthatcorn1]

Finally Something Different read Ephesians 5:22-28 in the MESSAGE version. I use to struggle with this topic on "submission" as well but these verses helped me grasp it better. As always, I'd pray & ask the Lord to reveal what the scriptures mean and what He has in them for you. I hope it helps! :)

[@23blueninja]

First, "in quietness and full submission" does not only apply to women. 1 Timothy 2:8 says men should pray "without anger or disputing". You can see just how similar those phrases are. To pray without "disputing" is to pray in full submission. As for Timothy saying that a woman should not teach a man, I think It's important to remember that these verses are instructions for building the "government" body of a physical church, as you can see in the next chapter where it talks about qualifications for deacons and such. It's also important to remember how God compares the relationship of the church to that of a bride and groom. The church is modeled in the same way, that is, a wife should submit to the authority of the husband because he is the leader of the household. Men are appointed the "leader" because of their stronger "vessels" and their tendency to squash emotions and move forward. Not to say that makes them better than women, just that men are generally biologically disposed to have thicker skin. In biblical times, with the lack of modern medicine "survival of the fittest" was still a concept that applied to humans. You had to be strong, physically, to survive. Now, keep in mind these verses are applying to Christian men and women. saying that a women should submit to the authority of her husband does NOT excuse sinful behavior or actions towards the husband's wife. The husband must act with love and honor towards his wife, to do anything otherwise is a sin. If you want to look at it in a positive light, husbands are meant to treat their wives like royalty, to provide for them and ensure they are well taken care of. I realize in the modern era many women prefer independence, and that is where the struggle comes in. Submitting to the authority of your husband does not mean obeying his every whim. It means respecting the decisions he makes to move your household forward in a positive and Godly manner. To hold his hand as he leads the both of you towards Christ. Part of being a Christian as a woman is learning to appreciate the hierarchy God created for the benefit of both men and women. Men are charged to treat their wives with such dignity because they are the greatest earthly treasure they will ever receive. Wives are charged with being that treasure, by supporting their husband in Christ and making their house a home. I hope this helped somewhat.

[@shadypenguinX]

Finally Something Different I agree with arch henderson's interpretation. For me, it would be easier to submit to men if they weren't so barbaric (not talking about the good ones but let's be honest more domestic abuse victims are women and all these misogynists hating on feminism are really annoying me.) For me as a Christian, I just pray to God about it and when I interact with men and women, I don't focus on whether who should submit etc but to treat each and everyone as equal and same: a human. One thing I realized in my relationships so far is that women love men, and men are protective and caring towards women. I hope this helps, just keep praying and bring this issue to Jesus. Best of luck, sister.

[@thunderwalk]

You should check out The Bible Project on KZbin. They have a great video breakdown of 1 Timothy that puts a lot of this stuff in perspective. Hope it helps!

[@karla3211]

Watch the video "The bible is sexist," by AtheistExplains.

[@oscar1987zp]

I am still considering that the bible is the most sexist book ever written, but not just the bible but religion as a wole tends to degrade women

[@samewish]

Coffee Pancakes I'm female disagree your opinion. Bible is sexist, it already showed how it preach and work in past until today. The bible is men wrote it, don't defend it. The fact many females physical weaker than men because female still don't figure out and still struggle and brainwashes to think is ok weaker than men are totally bias and limit themselves.

[@samewish]

oscar diaz Exactly. Recommend studies other religious: taoism, buddha, shaman other to compare and know other content. This world is not abraham exist only.

[@KB-xx2sn]

BigPigPig I know it doesn't sound appealing but I still stand where I do. There are things that men can do that women can't do. Just like there are things women can do that men can't. And just because God has a certain role for women to follow, does not mean He doesn't see us as equals. Galatians 3:28 - There is no Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female; for you are one in Christ Jesus. 1 Peter 3:7 - Husbands, in the same way be considerate as you live with your wives, and treat them with respect as the weaker vessel Also, there's nothing wrong with submission. We submit to our parents, our teachers, the government's laws, our bosses, ect... It doesn't mean that parents and teachers are greater than us in value. You're not weak for submitting, you're not brainwashed for submitting. In fact, the enemy is trying to turn everything that God has established and flip it upside down. People are told that women can do more or just as much as men. And sure, I don't doubt that, but just because we can do something doesn't mean we should, or doesn't mean that the outcome will be good.

[@KB-xx2sn]

BigPigPig Your whole statement of the bible is sexist sounds pretty biased to me. Can you at least understand my point of thinking? It's fine if you don't agree. I understand where you're coming from, I was there too. It doesn't make you brainwashed or limited. It doesn't mean that I am either.

[@CathyKitson]

oscar diaz I agree the Bible is sexist, but Judaism is worse, and Islam is the most misogynistic of all. Religion is so old, reflecting the times in which the scriptures were written, so of course they call for the subjugation of women. That was the norm then. The problem is that 21st-century people are trying to live 1st-century standards.

[@TheGravityShifter]

Where it says, "Show honor to the woman as the weaker vessel." In my mind, I feel it's basically saying, "Treat your woman like she is fragile." Because people are more careful with things that are fragile. A plastic cup isn't to be worried about if dropped but a glass cup is handled more carefully because it can break if not treated right. That's how I'm interpreting that part of the verse. A woman must be treated as glass. It doesn't look sexist to me at all. And yes, women are generally, physically weaker. But they are genetically stronger according to biological studies. So there's a plus for the ladies.

[@damienisntsane4518]

Well, I beat everyone at my school in arm wrestles because I exercise all day most of the time... 😁

[@disrupt94]

implying that women should not do the same towards their partners? it's just a horribly phrased message if it means what you think it does.

[@vorpalweapon4814]

ThETrUeGaMeR96 that still seems sexist

[@CathyKitson]

Women aren't fragile or made of glass! They'd shatter the minute they gave birth, if they were!

[@sallyenki4440]

Its scientifically proven that women are more resistant than men.

[@BenteMeijer]

I have a question, I'm dutch so I'll try to translate this scripture to the best of my ability 😂. In Ephesians 5: 21-33 it first says: women, obey your husband in everything because he leads his woman like Christ leads the church. However after that it says that when a man moves out of his parents' home to live with his wife they become one. How can one lead the other if they are one (which to me means equal)??

[@Darkmagecurt]

Say you have a footlong from subway. Cut it so one side is 8 inches and other is 4. Put them back together and its a whole 12 in again.

[@makingsense1970]

curtis Holman I bet you weren’t the 4”, you misogynistic biblical apologist! Very telling that it wasn’t 2 x 6”

[@makingsense1970]

Bente M the answer is that you are trying to make sense of a book that wasn’t written with the intention of making sense. It’s a collection of opinions of 100s of people. Of course they contradict one another. Buy a better book. What about a set of instructions for an IKEA flat pack. They should be easier to follow!

[@Darkmagecurt]

@@makingsense1970 not once in my statement do I ever bash a woman or apologize for the bible verse so please stop letting your sexist man hatred show so much b4 its ugly habit consumes you. I only gave example of how two unequal parts can make a whole part in reality. that's why I didn't use 2x6 dumbass NOT cause I hate women lol

[@Darkmagecurt]

@@makingsense1970 id be the 4 if she was worthy of the 8. I got no problem with a powerful woman.

[@embrymilo5316]

I love it when you say stuff like “so STOPIT.” Maybe it’s just the ways you say it but it’s *SO FUNNY*

[@chloebla3548]

Hey Jon. Thanks so much for sharing how you sometimes don't understand parts of the Bible and even disagree with them. It feels very freeing to hear a christian say this as it's definitely not something every christian would say. But I've been struggling with some parts of the Bible and I'm glad to know I'm not in there alone. ;) Keep being awesome.

[@tenshi6071]

The verses mentioning that women must cover their heads when they pray but men shouldn't; is that meant to be taken literally or is it supposed to mean something else?

[@disrupt94]

Given the time when it was likely written, it's probably literal.

[@racheljelle9513]

Great video! I think you did an amazing job of answering the questions 🙌🏻

[@wakexmexupx]

Thank you for being willing to delve deeper into important topics, rather than just skimming by popular issues to get views. You are certainly helping to feed the sheep :) keep up the awesome work!

[@JonJorgensonVideos]

thank you. that means a lot.

[@cecilialupiccolo]

8:48 so this is how youtubers do jump cuts! thanks I'm gonna need it ❤❤hahahah

[@JonJorgensonVideos]

haha. can't be perfect.

[@audreykaczmarek8099]

Thanks for doing this video Jon :) it really helped

[@mimiabdo7159]

The painting makes it look like you are wearing a hat

[@maryimhogiemhe4408]

Loved this so much Jon you've just been such a blessing in all of our Christian walks x

[@KyleNoelMusic]

good stuff Jon love it as always. while im at it id like to say hi to everyone in the comment section you guys are awesome!!! theres something id like to request from you guys tho. yall mustve heard about the horrible attacks in the UK and Syria and i know some of yall have already prayed for these affected areas. unfortunately, there are also terrorist activities going on in here in the Philippines that might not be attracting global attention. So i would like to ask you guys to pls PRAY FOR THE PHILIPPINES as our country is facing a huge predicament regarding rebellious forces especially in the Mindanao region. thank you all so much if you actually joined in prayer! glad to have brothers and sisters in Christ who love to come before God to intercede for their co believers :) AND BY THE WAY U CHICAGO PEOPLE PLS COME TO JON'S SHOW I KNOW IT'S GON BE LITTT!!!

[@JonJorgensonVideos]

Thanks for your thoughts and encouragement, Kyle!

[@miriam9482]

How do you understand that the pharaoh from Egypt when Moses asked him to let the Israelites leave he hadn't had a choice? It says that God made him not let them leave, so he hadn't had the freedom of opinion, right? But God wants us to have free will, doesn't he? So how can we understand that?

[@disrupt94]

Free will is laughably coming from the position of the christian god. If Heaven and hell both are real, and my choices will land me in either one, then i have as much freedom of will as a slave in North Korea has. That is to say, I can do what i want but i have no say when it comes to the consequences of those action. Punishment and Carrots are ALWAYS imposed.

[@kristygemchua]

Love that you honestly admit to having disagreements and not understanding all of the bible. In my opinion, what makes the bible eternal, is that every time someone reads it, it will have a different interpretation. And even if it's the same person, interpretation will vary depending on where you are in life.

[@Snow0Dove]

The more I watch, the more I love your content! It's nice to hear wisdom with love, consideration, and understanding.

[@mssthisisme]

thanx! i think your explanation was very good! (y) Greatings from the Netherlands

[@carlkaufmann8516]

I thought you mite have a Doctorate in Theology .. now I'm sure you do .Cause' you are able to explain things to me that I am unable to (convert into words) or find words for .. So that I can better understand my thoughts .. Thanks for partnering with God to answer (my) / these) prayers . I'm enJOYing your videos .

[@likyntibanritiewsoh1638]

I learnt so much for all ur vidoes, my frnd recommended ur videos back in 2015 n have continue to watch Since then..u have a good Sense of humor, grt personality n above all ur serving The Lord n feeding his sheeps.. God bless you brother

[@janaspringfield6255]

I would have like to have heard your explanation of 1 Corinthians 14:34-35.

[@ejipuh]

Thank you for this Jon!

[@katrinakirilyuk6215]

So thankful for your videos!

[@jerimygarcia1098]

jon I used my neighbors wifi without permission, but I use it in good purposes like doing my assignmnets or listening in word of GOD... Should I stop

[@CathyKitson]

Absolutely. It's theft, and as a Christian, you're breaking the 7th commandment.

[@easypianobeautifulmusic2974]

Lol

[@tylerfauntleroy6448]

Do you have any advice for Christians who are aspiring Broadway actors?

[@lucasbeemer5505]

You did a good job in interpreting that verse.

[@JonJorgensonVideos]

Thank you. Definitely a lot of prayer and study went into that one.

[@shadypenguinX]

JonJorgenson so grateful for you and your videos. Keep up the good work!

[@steffy2801]

Amazing Jon!

[@VinnnieGirl]

how to deal with a Christian relationship breakup?

[@TheNinjapancake14]

Hey Jon...love the theme song and all but, when you're showing the question on the screen can you play a different tune that's a little more terse? Or shorten the song so it's not played all the way through? I know editing takes work and there's copyright to deal with but there's something almost irritating about the song you use. The pep gets a little, I dunno, too much? I am not an energetic person and I know most of you videos are fun and energized, but just for the questions, (just the questions, be as jovial as you want) gimme some nonchalant tune that doesn't sound Disney :/ I don't even know how to describe it. Not sure if this has been asked before, or if anyone agrees but just..consider

[@LuSupernova1983ful]

thank you. love this.

[@petersalucci5444]

I recommend that you go watch this vid- ( KZbin bible study: is the bible SEXIEST against women? ) By Jon Jorgenson

[@frgproductions939]

Love you

[@joannerizkallah176]

hey jon, could u do a q&a video on the LGBT community? it we as christians should support them or not bcs i know many people who ask me and i m so confused abt this topic

[@Buttergirla]

So nobody's going to talk about Ecclesiastus chapter 42 and verse 14 ??nobody's going to talk about all the Sexest comments in Ecclesiastes and in the Wisdom of Solomon?

[@izzyg.1933]

it doesn't make sense to me how someone could use that verse to justify sexism? like it literally says in the beginning to respect your wife so like where did they get that from...

[@damienisntsane4518]

Izz G just shut the fuck up, it said weaker vessel

[@girlscanbedrummers5449]

@@damienisntsane4518 you're an idiot.

[@mydreadsustains]

@Mr Leg some are

[@abigailcarter6075]

Great video!! Thank you for answering questions

[@larissaacosta]

Thank you so much for answering this questions, your videos are a big blessing!!

[@kaushalshrestha2119]

Am I the only one who thinks you look just like Shane West??

[@JonJorgensonVideos]

I've heard that a lot. i can see it a little maybe...

[@kaushalshrestha2119]

Deanna, that was my first one! :)

[@kaushalshrestha2119]

Jon, actually you don't look like Shane, Shane looks like you😂😂😂

[@mrtruth5952]

You should debate Bart Ehrman.

[@madiclaire6295]

I claim Jon as a mentor!!! 😂

[@3self]

agnostic atheist here, interesting input :)

[@benmartinez8702]

Hey Jon what do you think about the best sermon ever told by Paul Washer ? You're not saved from the American Christian thing about praying once and you're saved. You're saved if you continue to repent every single day and you live not for the world but for god, and you follow Jesus with all your heart and when you fall off the path (since you're actually saved) God sees that and puts you right back on. This really woke me up man, it took me 17 years (I'm 18) to really know god and truly believe in him. My whole life I grew up in a Christian family but I never really comprehended it because I saw around me "Christians" who are "#blessed" but who sin just like everyone else and who don't live for god and never read the Bible or pray to him. I didn't really want to be "Christian" if that what I would be like. Any hoo, That was a 10 year old sermon, And the main problem he pointed out is still a HUGE problem in the church today. I know many people like that. Just asked for your thoughts

[@benmartinez8702]

Also man you should totally make a video explaining the church denominations and stuff. I completely don't understand it. I just thought there were Catholics and "I love Jesus" churches

[@HR-mp4wv]

ummmm THAT DIDNT SAY SHIT! I came here to hear that question get answered (sexist part) but that didnt prove anything

[@TheGravityShifter]

This is a blind comment (a comment prior to watching). I wanted to throw in my thoughts before I watch this great video. Tbh, it's ignorance to say it's sexist because those who claim it to be clearly haven't read Scripture enough. In the Bible, a woman led a nation to worship. Heck, a few of the books are about a woman. The Book of Ruth? Ruth is a woman. Not to mention God loved us enough to make us. He made male and female. Both are two halves of a whole in humanity. It's why we have male and female of every living thing.

[@enevy3165]

Remember, God allowed the first people to find Jesus' empty tomb to be WOMEN. The first people to spread the news that Christ has risen were WOMEN. If God were sexist, wouldn't he have made sure that a man was the first person to see the tomb empty? Also, I don't remember the story fully, but Esther was also a woman right? She became queen and ended up saving her family and country because she trusted in God.

[@disrupt94]

A few books about a woman is meager compensation for the discrimination present in every other verse. Specific treatment of female slaves if they "fail to please their master". Given right for a rapist and a father to work out a marrying arrangement for the victim. The mother has no say, but most importantly the victim has no say. Implied and expressed inferiority of women by evidence of them having to be silent when a man tells them, subservient to their men, and listed within the property of their men. " The first people to spread the news that Christ has risen were WOMEN. How many apostles were women? how many writers of the new testament were women? Jesus, the personification of god was a man, and the title of "father" is obviously male. These books were written millenia ago, of course they will be sexist. A few contrary incidents do not change this.

[@samewish]

ThETrUeGaMeR96 You just allow men enslave and bullies women because you are religious followers. Even hv female charater in bible, doesn't mean the women get equal or high position.

[@samewish]

Ludvig Burman Correct, the men always used to preaching and power to threaten/lying to girls to make female as objects cannot hv own mind thinking. Man created god and religious to benefit his desire.

[@pplpoo4440]

is that ok to love someone who is not Christian?

[@MaiaEdge31]

Wah Wah Yes and no. While we should love non believers by telling them the gospel and letting them know about Jesus' sacrifice for them, however we are not supposed to date or have romantic relationships with non believers (2 Corinthians 6:14)

[@karla3211]

Just be with the person you love

[@MaiaEdge31]

Karla but the thing is, if you are Christian, and they are not Christian, they hate the most important thing in your life, and they hate the most important part of you (the Holy Spirit in you). Even if there weren't bible verses against it (there are plenty) I wouldn't date a non-Christian simply because they cannot love such a massive part of your life

[@disrupt94]

So people are too force their belief's on their partner, or leave them if the partner rejects those beliefs? Christianity proves itself vile yet again.

[@Suitednzooted11]

Ludvig Burman So we shouldn't discriminate our romantic relationships based on our deeply held beliefs? But it's fine to prefer blondes over brunettes or tall over short? We should all be very discriminating in our romantic relationships, that's a person we plan to spend the rest of our life loving and cherishing. Pick the very best match for you that is possible.

[@AdlerPostHC]

As usual, boy, you nailed it.

[@shanialogan5127]

I didn’t know most of Paul’s writings in the new testament occurred A.D 50... Guess you learn something new everyday .

[@finalfrontier001]

what is more scary the bible was canonized until 3rd century.

[@genesism7394]

I just love you 😂😂

[@kimichan5]

Of all the sexist verses that he could’ve picked he picked like the least sexist verse. Yes obviously women are physically weaker than men on average but there are many other verses that do mean and belittle and subjugate women and he needs to address those, particularly the ones in the old testament

[@elingergis7273]

AMEEN brother! Such amazing wisdom. God bless you!🙌

[@sloopgang4829]

lmfao

[@RussianLearnsYou]

We call women 'слабый пол' (the weaker sex) all the time in Russia. And they're OK with that. Well, it's kinda obvious since we don't compete against them in sports for that reason. It's not something new or sexist in any way. It's just our nature

[@meagharkins]

EVERYONE WONDERING ABOUT THE GOSPELS- GO SEE THE CASE FOR CHRIST

[@purple_dog4407]

I just saw ur tiktoks just niw

[@LifeWithJuan]

Have you ever run out of rhymes to start your videos with?

[@tiffanysergey]

*mic drop*

[@JohnCichy]

Tiffany N Thats a pretty expensive microphone. No dropping. LOL Much Love, Tiffany. 😊😊😊

[@arilovesbangtan4373]

Mic mic bungee

[@christianmbabazi9722]

well said :)

[@phumeoli]

You have a problem. You are not yet saved

[@mydreadsustains]

But hes right though

[@Nozverah2]

Can't be sexist because gender is a social construct. It's fluid, like our sexuality.

[@samewish]

Frank Carter Of coz you are man, if opposite you will find unfair.

[@hoelife1875]

Your a man saying this so shut the fuck up Your so lucky your not a women were always hated on, weaker, smaller Life is unfair

[@sadafmunawar1653]

Interpretation can be judged.

[@winolowardichelli2850]

Yes it is.

[@purple_dog4407]

Wrong but I’m soz

[@amandajanasouhi2887]

This is why I left Christian and become a Muslim ...

[@jasminejazzi2780]

I left Islam for Christianity after I started researching about Islam and Muhammad ,I’ll pray for Amanda Bye 😍😍

[@sallyenki4440]

Islam isnt better tho...

[@DevilishChrist]

Islam is even worse. All Abrahamic religions are like this. The only difference is that Christianity's been neutered by secular culture.

[@amandajanasouhi2887]

Look at you will all you’re negative 👎 I mean come on what is so bad about it? Half of you I bet never read the book .. did you know in the Bible it tells you to cut off a part of your body that makes you sin?

[@DevilishChrist]

@@amandajanasouhi2887 Did you know the quran says it's ok to beat your wives? Quran 4:34 : "Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and BEAT THEM; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great."

[@mercyjohn2376]

Ohh Thank u so much for clearing that Bible is not sexist :)

[@disrupt94]

The bible IS sexist. You can explain away a few passages, but not all. It was written millenia ago, of course it's going to be sexist.

[@samewish]

Mercy Shalom Bible same with other religious sexist and control over women.

[@jon66097]

Even with his extremely whitewashed view of the bible, it is still by definition sexist as if forces women to certain roles in a marriage only because of their gender. Not skills or personality, just gender.

[@shannkaray]

Ecclesiastes is my fav.