Scottie Pippen’s WEIRD Career After Jordan…

A breakdown of Scottie Pippen's career after his days as Michael Jordan's teammate.
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[@jonnyarnett]

What is Scottie Pippen without Michael Jordan?

[@dubbz1906]

​@@vicepresidentmikepence889😂😂😂

[@awesomereviews1561]

Dude are you done with your LBJ propaganda? You spamming every comment section ever. It’s sad that LBJ needs you to try to convince people that his the GOAT ( he isn’t). Well did you know that Pippen wasn’t even an all star in 2 of the 6 titles. MJ won 2 titles without even 1 all star player in his team.

[@kevinkeshavarz7384]

Scottie Pippen In my Opinion is similar to klay or jb, he deserved more credit than just a robin type of guy, but put him anywhere else and hes just not as successful

[@kevinkeshavarz7384]

nah @@vicepresidentmikepence889hop off lbj's meat like dam

[@MagicFingers86]

​@@vicepresidentmikepence889 So is Lebron's dick salty, or sweet?😂😂😂

[@JadenSmithEyes]

Chucks post-season response to Scottie floors me everytime. He's just so dang funny

[@IcardBasketballIntel]

I just watched the GOAT of basketball ranking heart every comment but yours

[@siner2442]

Scottie was acting like a Diva, and Barkley stole his whole thunder! 😂

[@YesILoveLegos]

This intro is sick🔥🔥🔥🔥. Please don't ever change it. Love this channel 🤜🏽🤛🏽🙏🏽💯

[@ZeusMcCormick]

If a player today said what Chuck said about getting his gun, he’d most likely be suspended and ordered into some sort of therapy. At that time they just all laugh. It’s wild how times have changed so much. And no I’m not saying we’re all soft, I’m saying it’s sad that you can’t joke like that anymore because it could end up being true.

[@jonnyarnett]

Not just that, but a lot of people now see guns as an objectively evil object (obviously that’s debatable). I doubt Charles would so casually admit he’s a gun owner to a group of journalists in 2023

[@PhillipCummingsUSA]

We used to be a free nation

[@markjackson6431]

@@jonnyarnett PLEASE JOHNNY PLEASE a video on Dream Team 2 (94 FIBIA Team) PLEASE

[@ssj4goku18825theepic]

The world is going soft. However obviously being that the nba is more pro democratic in todays era among the newer players(don’t want to get too political here as both parties personally suck) there’s bound to be some hound of backclash just like we saw last season

[@滋榎本]

I knew from the beginning that the Big Three of Charles Barkley, Scottie Pippen and Hakeem Olajuwon would fail. In particular, it is very disappointing that Barkley retired without winning the championship ring after all.

[@fortynights1513]

If Drexler, Pippen, and Olajuwon played together throughout their careers could that have been a dynasty when they were all in their primes?

[@milotitolilo]

@@fortynights1513yes and it would’ve been the most balanced super team ever having a superstar guard, forward, and center that compliment each other

[@fortynights1513]

@@milotitoliloI was curious because as is, those three when they were all at the end of their primes and injured in 1997 went 57-25, and made a conference final (32-8 and a winning record against eventual second round playoff teams or later when all three played in that regular season on a side note).

[@milotitolilo]

@@fortynights1513 yeah that team would’ve been insane

[@watariwangyu33]

❤❤❤

[@bekakhojava5499]

It's so painful to watch how he tarnishes his excellent, HOF legacy in the public eye long after the end of his playing days.

[@nicoli-thenextup9866]

6:53 -leave it to Barkley 😂to make jokes at a serious question

[@jordanjenkins1671]

Didn't realize Pippen had some good postseason runs in his teams after the Bulls. Especially that Blazers team going 59-23 in the 99-00 season and forcing Shaq/Kobe to a 7-game series from a 1-3 deficit.

[@OakTownBizz-zm8rx]

I forget dey was down 1-3 n u know da NBA wants LAL n da Finals

[@QuestionEverything562]

Scottie showed us yet again how unclutch he was without MJ. That dude could never close out big playoff games when his teams looked to him to carry them to the finish line. His lack of offensive skill set in the half court always reared it's ugly head in big playoff games without MJ.

[@bluegregory6239]

Which they lost in game 7 after having a 15-point lead. As a Lakers fan, that was one of the most satisfying moments of my life. Portland Fail-Blazers. Scottie is deluded and bitter, and his post-retirement hate for MJ is laughable.

[@torbjornripstrand1103]

Blazers were a 57 win team the year before and lost in WCF. So Pippens impact was small. Pippen was probably the 3rd best player on the team and as usual was nowhere to be found in 4Q

[@QuestionEverything562]

@@beery6659 Yes, Sheed was the man on the 2000 Blazers, but the Blazers got Pip for these kind of playoff battles. Pip cried for the last shot in 94', but when the Blazers passed him the ball in that 4th qtr, Pip didn't want anything to do with it. Rasheed was at least out there attempting shots because everybody else was afraid to shoot, especially Pip. If you remember how that game went in the 4th qtr, the Blazers were up 15 and then suddenly missed 11 straight shots, including possession were their entire offense just froze up and couldn't even get a shot up. Pippen was supposed to be that leader they needed to close out games, not carry the Blazers through out the whole game, I just meant late in the 4th qtr when team ball goes out the window and you just go to your stars.

[@holdenhensley77]

Imagine how different his career would be viewed if he won a chip with the Blazers!

[@mrjermz5406]

And most likely a finals MVP. I think it would have impacted the legacy of many greats.

[@thenoiseph]

Exactly what I was thinking. It would definitely elevate Pip into the top 20-25 all time (he's usually ranked around 35 right now). It potentially strengthens Lebron's argument as GOAT over MJ, too

[@PhillipCummingsUSA]

​@@thenoisephhow would that strengthen Lebron nonsense? Lebron has played with the greatest talent and underperformed under pressure. Only a boob thinks Bron is special.

[@johnnycat2393]

@@PhillipCummingsUSAboth lebron and Jordan have played with amazing talents what are you talking about

[@thenoiseph]

@@PhillipCummingsUSA What I should've said was that it weakens MJ's argument as GOAT. Not saying MJ wouldn't be considered GOAT, though.

[@Trevor_Schindler]

I will never, ever, EVER forget that 2000 wcf. Still speechless to this day. 😪

[@Melancholy-Drakula]

Same. Funny how lots of people forget what a massive collapse that was in just one quarter of basketball. I don't think pippen or that blazers team ever recovered from that mentally

[@ikennaonyegbula5134]

Yup. I was a blazers fan back then because I loved Rasheed Wallace and it is still my most annoying NBA memory to this day.

[@Trevor_Schindler]

@@ikennaonyegbula5134 I know exactly how you feel brother.

[@Trevor_Schindler]

@@Melancholy-Drakula Right!? It does seem like it doesn't get talked about nearly as much as it should. Then the damn kings-la series a couple years after. Man I hated the Lakers back in the day...

[@Melancholy-Drakula]

@@Trevor_Schindler I despised them with a passion, I just knew the Blazers had them. If they held on they would have put all the pressure on LA in a game 7, after they had blown such a big series lead. As for that Kings series, that one, the Milwaukee Philly series, and the Miami finals where they played Dallas and Wade literally lived at the FT line, I lost all faith in the NBA lol

[@august6281]

Pip fits the Blazers' black jersey better than any of the Bulls jersey. More than even on the Bulls black jersey with red stripes.

[@elizahhoward6810]

I see what you’re saying for sure, bro looks weird in every other jersey but the blazers

[@ktapreswreckd921v9]

Agreed, Pippen did look kind of smooth in the Blazers uniforms

[@MrReese]

Scottie has been a bitter person ever since he signed that long contract with the Bulls that he was advised not to sign and especially since he had proven he cannot replace MJ when MJ played baseball. What a sad man.

[@sheli5483]

He did what they needed on the court though. That's what matters to me.

[@MrReese]

@@sheli5483 With MJ on the court yes, because nobody was bigger than MJ. But without MJ keeping him in check he showed a side that was far from likeable or useful.

[@Oba7]

Dude STFU and Tell us what MJ did the 5 seasons he didn't have pippen.

[@darnellwilliams8783]

​@@MrReeseyou know nothing about scottie. Scottie carried the bulls after Jordan retired

[@simple45679]

​@@MrReesebro Jordan's son took his wife away. That is crazy

[@MasterRoshi8974]

Charles Barkley was more impressive at end of his career, basically on one leg and over wieght, then Pippen was.

[@fortynights1513]

Hot take: From someone who isn’t even a fan of their team, I actually like the later 90’s Rockets jerseys. The navy blue ones in particular.

[@brendanamusmaximus7560]

Stop it. Get some help

[@fortynights1513]

@@brendanamusmaximus7560To each their own

[@johndavis9321]

​@@brendanamusmaximus7560nah man you hatin them throwback rockets jerseys be hittin

[@shrim1481]

🤢🤢

[@michaelsevilla3697]

those rockets jerseys damn near looked like pajamas 😂

[@LuckyBeerCamper]

Pip was a remarkable talent, and exceptionally well rounded. He deserves a ton of praise. Pairing him with the GOAT, Michael Jordan was potentially the best 1-2 punch of offense AND defense the league had ever seen.

[@x-man9473]

Agree on defense. Disagree on offense. Magic-Kareem, Shaq-Kobe, Elgin Baylor-Jerry West are all better duos on offense.

[@LuckyBeerCamper]

@@x-man9473 Very possibly true, hence why I just said potentially. It would have been interesting seeing 1:1 matches between all those examples.

[@x-man9473]

@@LuckyBeerCamper There's no potential. Pippen's offense is too lackluster for that to be the case. The Bulls offense from beginning to end was carried by MJ. The defense was great. But the offense was very MJ dependent. The other duos I named had 2 elite offensive options. Pippen at his best was reliable. Throughout his career he was mediocre. Both parties have to be good for that to even be a consideration. And Pippen wasn't.

[@emmapeel38]

@@x-man9473 Yes, there's no "potential". Pippen had a very long history of fading in big moments as scorer; specifically as a mid-range and long-distance shooter. There's a reason that Phil Jackson went with Kukoc; which was the right decision. Depending on Pippen as a scorer down the stretch, is like depending on Pascal Siakam, or Chris (hot potato) Webber. For a "6 Time Champion that MJ never won without", he's about as big of a loser that I can think of when thinking of "clutch" plays (specifically as a scorer on offense). Honestly, I think Karl Malone is more clutch than Pippen. He was at least there, actually trying to score.

[@_M....]

he was not an offensive weapon. there have been several better duos on offense. they are one of the best defensively though.

[@rebecalinares5393]

Pippen always dissapeared when the team needed him; was a ghost in the 1990 ECF Game 7 against the Pistons, in 94 against the Knicks when Jackson fed up decided to go with Kukoc for the last shot, in the 1998 finals, games 5 and 6 scoring under 10 points and citing "back" problems .. and finally against the Lakers game 7 with the Blazers, that fourth quarter resumes all of Pippen´s clutch situations: a NOBODY when he was needed the most.

[@brianbanks8570]

Always?!!!😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@rebecalinares5393]

@@brianbanks8570 ALWAYS. And i forgot the game 6 against the Pistons in 89 ECF: 0 points.

[@brianbanks8570]

@@rebecalinares5393 you’re a novice!! Sorry Ya brought 4 or 5 of over 200 playoff games played to support a dumb narrative! Scotties game was catered to more sophisticated basketball minds to appreciate btw!!! That’s why no coach has ever did nothing but laud Pippens’ impact,talent,production and brilliance on the basketball court!! This debate is Above your pay grade !!!

[@jaranarm]

@@rebecalinares5393 Pippen didn't play that game because he got injured from a blow to the head. And what happened in that game? Oh that's right, Jordan couldn't win it for the Bulls. He had 8 turnovers, 5 fouls, and choked at the free throw line. Jordan failed without Pippen more than the other way around.

[@rebecalinares5393]

@@jaranarm You´re correct, he lost that, but then just a month later he beat Brad Gilbert in 5 sets to win Johanesburg, the South African Open a the time ... I got it wrong had in my mind he had defeated Lendl and then lost to Gilbert ... But anyway, he had a great finale of 1987, 2 finals, and then a great start in 1988. So those were great months for Pat. Even won a tournament some months before Wimbledon in France, beating Masur. So from march 87 through feb 88 were incredible results for Pat.

[@labynoe]

This video shows the biggest difference between Scottie Pippen and Michael Jordan: mental toughness and emotional maturity. MJ has both in spades, while Pippen is lacking. An MJ-lead Blazers team would not have disappeared in the 4th quarter against the Lakers and would have won that 7th ring. Look at the lapses Pippen has had and continues to have - the migraine game against the Pistons, abandoning the Bulls in 1994 because Kukoc got the last shot, his immature beef with Barkley and the Rockets, his current crazy behavior toward MJ -dude is way too childish and weak-minded to lead a team to a championship. He should thank his lucky stars he ended up with MJ on the Bulls.

[@emmapeel38]

Exactly! Well said. It's funny that in the end, Pippen made more money in the NBA than MJ. The BULLS never had a roster as deep nor as talented as the '00 Blazers. The Jailblazers' happened on Pippen's watch; leadership my a**. When people point out how guys like Karl Malone, Stockton, Nash, Barkley, aren't true winners, but Pippen is a 6 time champion, I can't help but think of all of the times I never noticed Pippen in 3rd and 4th quarters of big games when he was with the BULLS. He's a disappearing act. And if the BULLS hadn't of gone 6 for 6, (knowledgeable) people would have been able to see that it was in large part because of Pippen's poor shooting in the 2nd half of any critical game. Jordan retired BECAUSE PJ and Pippen weren't coming back. He was on the fence about going to go and play for the KNICKS days before he actually retired. Yes, Jordan retired on January 13th of '99, while Pippen wasn't officially traded until the 22nd of that month, but the word (then) was that Pippen was already going to go to the Rockets; well before the trade was actually announced. Pippen and PJ both bailed (and management) in '99, leaving Jordan alone. Funny, since you could make a GREAT argument that PJ and Pippen were barely there in '98 when they won their 6th. The 'ol "Jordan never won without Phil and Pippen", should be "Actually, he did in '98 if you think about it, and they bailed on him instead of defending the throne the next year." Good luck winning titles when your coach announces that he's not coming back the next year (hello Bill Parcells). Pippen's great, but to hear LeBron (and Kobe) fans prop him up, like he's easily in the Top 50 of All Time, is disingenuous. If Pippen never played with Jordan, you'd never hear his name mentioned - literally ever - from either one of those fan bases. They don't care about Pippen. He's just being used as a Trojan Horse, to perpetuate an argument that Jordan really wasn't that great. He doesn't seem to recognize that. He's become delusional, and hey, he sold his soul once his son signed with Klutch Sports last year, and was essentially a practrice roster-type (burried) that LeBron kept around.

[@atlien1988]

​@@emmapeel38 bro, don't put Steve Nash in the same category as Barkley, Malone, or hell even Stockton. Dude never even made the Finals with the super stacked rosters he's had throughout his career.

[@johndavis9321]

​@@emmapeel38all facts and not one opinion

[@johndavis9321]

​@@atlien1988facts nash imo gets a lil over hyped imo he had a bunch of stacked as rosters and played in a system known to inflate the pg's stats

[@labynoe]

@@emmapeel38 So true, ESPECIALLY that 1998 ring. MJ didn't just hit the final shot over Bryon Russell, he carried that Bulls team that whole season as much or more than any single player has ever carried a team to an NBA championship. MJ had to be "Superman" that year as Pippen was NOT even a "Robin", but more of an "Alfred".

[@tatayaya]

Growing up playing basketball in Argentina I was a huge Pippen fan, even got a Rockets' bball when he was traded. But man those Blazers teams were something else. Sabonis, Sheed, Smith, Grant, Bonzi, Stoudemire... great memories!

[@TreFKennedy]

Dope vid Johnny

[@Lewishhhh]

im so glad you made a video on this, its so interesting to me, keep up the good work and keep coming out with these bangers. Also, when is burning questions part 2 coming out?

[@sjw4life546]

The thing that amazes me the most about scottie is the great defense he continued to play in his twilight years. Defense is usually the thing that gets sacrificed the older a player gets

[@siner2442]

Defense is a mentality, has nothing to do age… vet players just feel they earned the right to not do the extra. They don’t want extra practices,lift heavy weights and play like they need to make the roster. But plenty of old players were still dedicated at end of their careers, Like KG,David West,Bruce Bowen,Tony Allen. But defense isn’t even played anymore, the NBA took it out of the game.

[@saschavandl6693]

Barkley and Olajouwon both had bounce back seasons in 99. Bochum of them were top ten in PER. It was Pippen who did not show up on offense.

[@hristijandimitrovski8664]

Nope. Like you saw, Pippen had the greatest game of his career that play off, Hakeem that game played terrible and scored only 5 points. Pippen truly caaried the whole team that game. Than after that, all games that houston lost, it was because Houston weren't good team enough, not because of Scottie.

[@zxcvb3772]

@@hristijandimitrovski8664 1999 Rockets vs Lakers first round Barkley 24/14/4/2/1 on 53% FG Pippen 18/12/6/2/1 on 33% FG Hakeem 13/7/1/1/1 on 43% FG Thing to note here is the fact that Scottie Pippen was the leading shot taker for the Rockets, and his efficiency does not justify him taking that many shots. Hakeem was not great, but do you expect a 36 years old Hakeem to put up 60% FG just to carry Scottie's 33% FG?

[@saschavandl6693]

@@hristijandimitrovski8664 That was one Game, get your facts right

[@rebecalinares5393]

@@hristijandimitrovski8664 Pippen was terrible in 99.

[@jdm2339]

@@saschavandl6693 BIG big facts! Dream was 3rd team all nba that season. It was def Scottie who was the 'weak' spot on that team. I really watched that terribly condensed season. He wasn't good.

[@austinmcgowan8062]

You’re one of my favorite newly discovered pages keep up the great work with the videos man!!!✊🏽

[@kylegravel5298]

Bro that bulls organization was wayyyyy too petty for what their players did for them

[@PrestynMcElhaney]

Great video!

[@HiThere-ju3wg]

Day 12 of asking for a video on who would be your top basketball team of all time. 15 players, 3 players per position. It's not just about talent, but also chemistry. To make it more interesting, you can also pick which year of that player you'd decide on. The ultimate dream team.

[@mjsup1]

Hard to say, being a bulls fan back in the nineties I never thought that Scottie was just a side kick, however we always say what MJ legacy would be without Scottie, but what about Scotty legacy without Jordan, even in those two runs the video talked about, Jordans influence is still a part of Scotty. He just doesn't recognize it and I think he shows poor character that he hates on MJ, when he's really just mad at himself.

[@elizahhoward6810]

Him and Jordan are great players with shitty characters in my opinion

[@pook4574]

perfectly said

[@_M....]

Scottie would have been a forgotten journeyman without MJ. anyone who doesn't comprehend that is basically a moron. MJ practically raised Pippen as a player.

[@marykalyva225]

Scottie would clearly be able to lead a franchise to consistent postseason success or even championships with competent support. He just had only 2 shots at doing it. Once with Horace, Kukoc,BJ Armstrong and then absolutely nothing behind and then as a 35year old. He didn't have enough support when his moments came and still was decently successful. Not MJ but lock top 30 all time

[@Ham_1982]

Pippen was working fine with Jordan, when he got cold or lost momentum, Jordan use to bring it back or vice versa, but on the blazers he didn't have that Jordan like player rather it was on the other side Kobe Lakers!! overall Pippen was one of the most impactful players the NBA had seen specially in the 90s, reminds me lot of Lebron

[@younglove3362]

Pippin anchored the Bulls when Jordan struggled. That's what you delusional Jordan fans never want to acknowledge. Y'all act as if Jordan didn't have bad games or struggles. 🙄

[@g24deez]

​@@younglove3362lil fella why are u catching a HISSY FIT? All ur #FAKEOUTRAGE IS HILARIOUS FELLA Who are these folks that said Jordan never had a bad game? Sounds to me like ur projecting lil fella lol. Go study up fella because when u REACH I TEACH lil fella lol

[@elizahhoward6810]

@@younglove3362he did recognize that in his comment tho and I can definitely see pippen being lebron like now that he says it

[@zxcvb3772]

@@younglove3362 The comment you're replying to was giving Pippen his recognition. Your hate for Jordan cloud your thoughts so much so that every time you see Jordan being mentioned you go ballistic. Very sad.

[@emmapeel38]

@@younglove3362 "Anchored", pffft. Anyone watching then - with a memory - will know that IF the BULLS were struggling, a guy like Jud Buechler would come in for a few minutes, make just "1" shot (or two), a key rebound, or just something, and the ship was back on course. Or Bill Wennington - far less impactful than Buechler but - would come in and knock down 2 or 3 face-up midrange shots (that he never seemed to miss), and they were back in the game. "Y'all act as if Jordan didn't have bad games or struggles." I would argue that if/when Jordan struggled a scorer, it's probably because his 2nd banana was never much of a threat to create his own offense. Opposing teams could quite easily double and triple team Jordan; which they routinely did. Frankly, the release valve was almost NEVER Pippen, rather their wide-open 3pt shooters; why do you think Kerr his 54% one year from distance? Also, define "bad games". Jordan didn't really have bad games. If he wasn't hitting at a high percentage, he was always moving the chains by driving and getting the other team to commit fouls. He also ALWAYS brought it on defense. Always. No one ever said "Gee, Michael is really relaxing on defense tonight." Unlike other well-rounded numbers guys, Jordan was fundamentally sound off-ball. HUGE plus. Pippen worked best, in tandem, with Jordan. Specifically on defense.

[@thewhitepumpkin1859]

Scottie going through a mid-life crisis rn

[@damboulton]

Going through an “MJ’s son is piping my ex wife” crisis if you ask me lmao

[@ThePrufessa]

Been going through it for a couple of years now. And I think he's past the middle of his life.

[@mistameff3528]

@@damboulton He mocked MJ already before..

[@vicepresidentmikepence889]

Michael Jordan played five seasons without Scottie Pippen 84-85 38-44..First round exit 85-86. 30-52..First round exit 86-87. 40-42...First round exit 01-02. 37-45..out of playoffs 02-03. 37-45..out of playoffs LeBron james carried an absolutely horrific 2007 Cleveland Cavaliers team to the nba finals In the modern NBA era (post 1960) only nine NBA top 75 players have won a championship without another top 75 player as a teammate Rick Barry (1975) Bill Walton (1977) Hakeem Olajuwon (1994) Tim Duncan (2005) (2007) Kobe Bryant (2009) (2010) Steph Curry (2015) (2022) LeBron james (2016) Kawhi Leonard (2019) Giannis Antetokounmpo (2021) As you can see, LeBron James is on the list and Michael Jordan isnt Lebron james has won 17 playoff series, without an nba top 75 teammate. Michael Jordan won ZERO LeBron james has won 10 conference championships Michael Jordan won 6......Only Bill Russell and Sam Jones have more conference championships (In a mostly nine team league) than LeBron James In the year before Michael Jordan and LeBron James joined their team and the year after they left their team, their records were 83-84 bulls 27-55 84-85 bulls. 38-44 92-93 bulls 57-25 93-94 bulls 55-27 98-99 bulls 13-37 without Scottie Pippen 00-01 wizards 19-63 01-02 wizards. 37-45 02-03 wizards 37-45 03-04 wizards 25-57 02-03 cavaliers 17-65 03-04 cavaliers 35-47 09-10 cavaliers 61-21 10-11 cavaliers 19-63 09-10 heat. 47-35 10-11 heat 58-24 14-15 heat 37-45 2013-14 cavaliers 33-49 2014-15 cavaliers 53-29 2017- 18 cavaliers 50-32 2018-19 cavaliers 19-63 2017-18 lakers. 35-47 2018-19 lakers were 20-14 when LeBron James got injured on Christmas day. As you can see When LeBron James joins a team, the team improves more than Michael Jordan and when LeBron James leaves a team, the team always goes into the tank. Michael Jordan, excluding the 94-97 seasons, when the NBA moved the three point line to 22 feet, was a career 28% three point shooter. LeBron James is a career 34% three point shooter Michael Jordan was a great defensive player, in an Era where you could handcheck. Playing defense is much easier when you can handcheck. For nearly 6'9 250 LeBron James' entire career he wasn't afforded the opportunity to handcheck. THE EVIDENCE IS CLEAR..LEBRON JAMES IS THE GOAT!!!!! I have added a Postscript So many have replied, that LeBron james didn't make the playoffs his first two years and Jordan did. What they fail to say is, in 1985, 16 of 23 teams made the playoffs. In 2004, 16 of 29 teams made the playoffs. It was MUCH EASIER Making the playoffs in 1985. Perfect example is the 1985 86 bulls went 30-52 and made the playoffs and the 2004 05 cavaliers went 42-40 and did not make the playoffs. Also, I don't know, possibly, maybe, Jordan had a HUGE ADVANTAGE considering he played three years of college basketball and LeBron James was 19 years old, and straight out of high school

[@Spawnamvs]

​@@vicepresidentmikepence889I didn't read all of this but I want to give my rebuttal about teams Lebron has left since no one ever uses context. Lebron led teams more often than not consists of 3 & D players. Being one of the greatest slashers and playmakers let's him be the engine for that offense. Take away the engine and the machine fails. You're also throwing numbers around and leaving out context and doing that will make your argument fall apart with someone studious enough.

[@johnc.richardson2713]

This video is yet another reminder of the hubris of the Jerrys. Krause and Reinsdorf. “Oh, yeah, we’ll just go ahead and build another championship dynasty because one of the best coaches, best rebounder and defender, best all-around player, and greatest of all time just grow on the friggin trees.“

[@somerandoasshatontheintern8337]

that pippen era blazers was stacked. my fave team to play in nba live back in the day. also love the webber/bibby era kings. late '90s heat with mourning, hardaway, mashburn was fun to play, too.

[@MJIZZEL]

Scottie had a knack for not showing up in big games like that. 89-90 conf finals, bulls had a very good chance to get to the finals but Scottie had to miss the most important game of the year with a headache. Then he has back issues in 98 game 6 against Utah and if Jordan doesn't ball his butt off in that game, Scottie wasn't gonna play game 7. You could replace Scottie in Chicago with another all star and bulls still win a few rings. Replace Jordan and I don't think they do. That Superman Batman crap is nonsense. More like Superman and Robin

[@emmapeel38]

LOL, yes! Finally, someone who understand the gap between Jordan and Pippen.

[@MJIZZEL]

@@emmapeel38 back in the 90's, Scottie was considered a star in the league but really wasn't considered a top tier player until the year Michael sat out. That year pippen rightfully was looked at as one of the best in the game. Now as the years have gone by, pippen has started to receive more and more praise and it's the same way with rodman also. Pippen has become extremely overrated nowadays and I remember back when they announced the NBA top 50 team, people were shocked that pippen was on there over Dominique. All of this comes from the sports media trying to cater to it's core audience, younger, online viewers. They build up pippen and rodman so as to downplay Jordans success because they have to have lebron as the GOAT because their audience has become younger. The gap between Jordan and pippen is huge. It's like saying Pau Gasol was on Kobe's level.

[@carmcam1]

​@@MJIZZELno matter how they overrate pippen's contribution, pippen was an "off the bench" player, he improved his game because he was being pushed by MJ. Unlike lebron who joined players that are already a star on their own. Lebron's journey is all about weak mentality and fear of competition. Idk why anyone glorify that.

[@sulwhale3171]

@@carmcam1 lol yeah Ok

[@Rodanguirus]

To be fair to Pippen: a) No one but Jordan showed up in that 1990 Game 7. b) Nothing about his previous road games that series suggested he'd change the outcome. When he played better, the Pistons won the previous games at the Palace handily; when he disappeared, it was a more extreme blowout.

[@Noob_Guy2k]

Great video

[@animeguitarguy]

Scottie showed his ceiling in 94 and 95 and showed that while very good, he could never be that guy

[@hristijandimitrovski8664]

Chicago were much weaker team without Jordan, what's wrong with you?

[@neboyshanicolich761]

And what Jordan won in his seasons without Scottie??

[@x-man9473]

​@@neboyshanicolich761MJ played his entire prime with Pippen. He didn't have time to prove what he could do without Pippen.

[@rebecalinares5393]

he was never clutch. Dissapeared on important and tense moments.

[@emmapeel38]

@@neboyshanicolich761 If we're being honest, Jordan carried Pippen (and Phil Jackson's reputation) in '98. And THEY BOTH bailed on him the next year, when he was ready to defend. Also, how many did Pippen win without Jordan? I don't recall the BULLS ever having a roster as deep as the '00 Blazers.

[@alex4833]

Great video, Jonny! It brought back memories. One of the things I remember most from the 2000 Western Conference Finals was Pippen knocking down some towels after the Blazers lost one of the games. It was an intense series too. I agree - he had a rollercoaster of a career after Jordan. I was hoping he'd win a ring with the Blazers, but that never came to be. As I reflect on that series, I think about how I watched Arvydas Sabonis back then and have watched his son, Domas, play with the Kings. Time flies. Have a great day :).

[@frankincensemerchant1284]

0:56 I didn't know MJ was a Scientist loool

[@richerichism]

MJ so great, he got Lebby fans praising Pip like he’s the GOAT and as good as Dwade. Aghahahahah.

[@PezOnTheBoards]

12:18 hella random T.O. sighting 😂

[@charles7558]

LMAO, who the hell sees Hakeem, Charles, and Scottie in Rockets uniform as a super team?! I just see old men past their prime years.

[@jonnyarnett]

That’s probably because you’re old enough to understand the context. If a you’re a young guy who’s seeing that pic for the first time, how would you NOT think that was a super team? I’ve literally seen people on social media refer to them as chokers for not winning with that group

[@elizahhoward6810]

@@jonnyarnettwow the youngest generations takes make me laugh sometimes

[@charles7558]

@jonnyarnett I'm pretty young, but I was addicted to watching Harwood Classics growing up. Haha, those people are out of their mind. That's some surface level thinking. I bet those are the people that'll forget Hakeem is a top 5 all-time center.

[@dannybachner899]

After the bulls he just chased more rings but he did it not wanting to be the main guy. That's how he chose the rockets and Portland

[@NoCoastBlackSmith]

Terrell Owens chillin the back! 😂😂 12:15

[@jaranarm]

Pippen was never the same player again after that back surgery in the offseason following the Bulls sixth championship and breakup. Then what did he do? He went over to the Western conference, which by then became the tougher conference. In the West he had to go up against the new dynasties, Lakers and Spurs. Bottom line is that the guy kept competing against the very best, meanwhile Jordan decided to quit the league (and when he came back he decided to play in the weaker East). For the rest of his career, Pippen still never once had a losing record or missed the postseason (despite playing with an assortment of injuries). Every team he left immediately plummeted below .500 and didn't have a playoff berth. Plus he was the one invited back to Chicago at the end of his career to mentor the young Bulls, not Jordan.

[@TBCLINQ]

1990s Era : Batman And Robin ( Friends ) 2000s : Still friends while Jordan is on the Wizards. 2020s : Scottie Beefing with Jordan .

[@atlien1988]

I always find it odd that Pippen talked so much smack about Barkley when Barkley was the best player on those Rockets teams & he was no longer even PRIME Barkley. It's just so crazy to me & never understood it. Then the Jailblazers happened on Scottie's watch.

[@CMDJH]

That blazers was one of my all time favourite

[@gwapsgarcia]

west started to become the more stacked conference after arrival of shaq duncan garnett dirk. not that rockets and blazers werent strong. they just happen to face shaq and kobe of all teams. theyd probly win against the nets or sixers

[@visionary515]

Scottie was a shell of himself from 97 until he retired. That blazers series basically solidified his career as a shoker. What great clutch moments has scottie ever had? Ive seen many games where jordan gave the ball up to scottie with the clock running down only to gave scottie pass the ball back to mj. There is no excuse for scottie not prevailing with the stacked blazers team other than the fact that he was never that dude.

[@zergmare7]

Damn scottie looks good in a blazers uni

[@hollins625]

Nice video! Worth mentioning that he was pretty good in the 2002 Playoffs as well at nearly 37 but the Lakers were just too good. To me Scottie will always be underrated because MJ overshadows everything and everyone. Fun fact: MJ won only 1 Playoff game and never won a series without Scottie.

[@BallCDO]

Fun Fact besides the 94 and 2000 series. Scottie is 1-9 in the playoffs??? Why is that?

[@hollins625]

@@BallCDO if you count only his losses he is the greatest loser in sports history...

[@mikewerner1304]

That 2000 Pacers team was very good and took the Lakers to a close 6th game. I wouldn't say it's a sure thing that Portland beats them

[@codyeble0713]

That Blazers team was so nice, reminds me of the kings as one of tge best teams to not get a ring.. shows how good shaq and Kobe were

[@showtimenick824]

0:32 It was not Superman and Batman, Shaq and Kobe were way more like that. Pippen was 100% a Robin and nothing better than that. Still a top 10 SF of all-time but he was never capable of being Batman.

[@Ray-gd3zo]

Pippen been saying wild shit since the early 90’s😂😂

[@therenewedpoet4292]

loved the blazers years. Sabonis swansong when he almost single-handedly beat the Mavs was pretty great. Scottie was finally beaten up too bad to play. true warrior of the game

[@leosmit8612]

7:08 they got that Scottie pic from nba jam lol lol

[@74205gb]

Scottie Pippen is an underrated scorer. He is also the best perimeter defender of all time. It is a shame what has happened to him. So much more of a Superman/Batman thing than anyone gives him credit for. He needs to be given his flowers. GREAT player. Probably somewhere around 30th All-Time. Respect.

[@RVered]

Scottie is pretty sensitive for a guy who averaged 16, 6, and 5. 🤣😂 It's difficult to say he is the greatest Robin or was ever underrated. As a Robin, it is shortsighted to call him "the greatest" when players like Kobe, Wade, Jerry West, etc., played better when in that role (Saying that they didn't win as much makes it sound like Scottie was the reason for those 6 rings.) As a player, he was selected to play in the Olympics twice, chosen as a top 50/75 all-time player, inducted into the HoF, and had his jersey retired, etc. Was he cheated out of an award? No. Was he given less adoration than MJ? Yes, because Mike was a far better player and the main reason for those 6 rings. Was he underpaid? So was MJ; in both cases, it was their fault (only MJ wasn't a crybaby.) Nowadays, Lebronsexuals tend to exalt him to create the illusion that MJ had more help than he did.

[@faruquekhan3353]

I never consider Kobe as Robin. I consider him as a part of duo as opposed to Pippen as a Robin. Wade also was part of a duo with the Heat. It was different in the second season after Lebron came as Wade was much older and wasn't as good as he was in his prime that he decided to let Lebron be the leader and him play more of a Robin role to help the team win championship. With Shaq time it was funny, he started as Robin but then became the main guy in the second season and won the championship. So neither Kobe or Wade I really consider them as Robin because they were Robin for a very short time as opposed to Pippen who was a Robin for 11 seasons - the 1 and a half season that Jordan left.

[@SmartWentCrazy.]

You are one of the best basketball KZbinrs out there, and especially great at bball history. Unique and interesting topics, great consistency, and staying honest and ducking the easy lazy narratives. You’re hard working and deserve success man. When I saw you comment that you are now doing this full time I wanted to show even a little support.

[@jonnyarnett]

Thanks man!! That means a lot, and me and my wife thank you for it :) So glad you enjoy the videos, and I’ll do my best to keep ‘em entertaining for ya 🫡

[@tzovlask]

When Scottie wrapped up in Chicago his back was pretty much done too. So unfortunately his stints in Houston and Portland weren't with much of his prime form. I loved him in Portland, Rasheed just couldn't keep his shit together. I was a big fan of Smith and Stoudamire, but the teams best player was Wallace and he led the league in technical. Such a shame. But that year when the blazers pushed the lakers to 7 was THE most exciting time in basketball post Jordan!!

[@davengeance4811]

From day 1 Scottie rubbed me the wrong way... Robin through and through

[@HailKingCeezer]

Don't be so sure to easily dismiss the 00 Pacers. The Pacers beat Portland in both their reg season matchups and while they were close games, you could tell that was going to bee a very evenly matched series. Both stacked of even talent depth. Personally my money would have been on Larry Bird and Reggie led Pacers over Portland. I think ultimately Dunleavy was a poor coach and held those deep Blazers back with poor minutes and adjustments. Bird would have outcoached him. Also calling Pippen the leader is a bit of an overstatement. Pip was tied for 3rd on the team in ppg, 3rd in rebound, 2nd in assists, and led the team in turnovers. Pip was 5th in PER. 3rd in WS. 5th in WS/48.9th in TS%. He did tie 1st in BPM and 2nd in VORP, and he did step it up in the playoffs leading in steals again but also rpg and apg, though unimpressively with 7rpg and 4apg once again painting a picture of my point that the '00 Blazers team like the 04 Pistons were a stacked team of evenly rated players and don't forget it's Sheed from those Blazers that would go on to be the key piece to turn the Pistons into champs and contenders. Pip was one of their leaders, but don't make him out to be the Batman or alpha or anything. Rockets fans hate Pippen. He was not a good leader. All he did was complain and whine and he sucked. Stats can look good on paper, but he was not getting stats as part of the team game. He was being detrimental to the others game and then to quit on us after we felt he was responsible for us losing. We call him Scottie Quitten here in Houston. #1 most hated player in Rockets franchise history. All of his recent antics is unsurprising to us Rockets fans. He's been bitter and toxic all along and will throw anyone under the bus on any given day.

[@ssj4goku18825theepic]

All facts. People forget how clutch and insane Reggie Miller was in his prime and that time 2000 they just got jalen rose who was MIP and some other solid players on the roster. Miller arguably had the best season of his career in possibly his final full peak in top all star form. The pacers team also was more hungry and determined after losing to that 99 Knicks team as well as the 98 bulls who they both were close to beating so naturally speaking good chance if lakers didn’t even make the finals the pacers blitz through in 5-6 games and win. Scottie is a legend and great but he never amounted to much defence was always his strong suit and he never had the monumental moments to be truly considered “killer”. The disrespect that MJ legacy gets over this dudes so called “notion” of supposedly being as good all comes down to that one 94 season and basically maybe 92 finals etc. the bulls weren’t even that good in 95 with Scottie as the leading player. Astounding how nba fans use narrative to run threads around great players with inconsistent and fallacy gargle words which speaks how pathetic the nba community really is. Good shout to Scottie tho true HOF at his best

[@HailKingCeezer]

Exactly. There was a guy on a Jordan instagram post that Jordan would struggle in todays NBA and kept repeating the same 3 players on why. "jordan couldn;t play bc he couldnt keep up with Steph, Klay or Dame, he would get tired chasing them around and wouldnt have energy to score on the other end" First of all these people dont even really stop to critically think. Steph and Klays predecessors played in Jordan era, Reggie, Ray, Abdul Rauf even later with Rip and Nash in the league. They name 2 or 3 guys as if Jordan would play against them 82 games a season. it makes no sense. Sure, they could get theirs, but its such an illogical statement. Then they also forget that Michael is infamous for endless amounts of energy. He played golf all day, no sleep and still busted his ass on both ends of the floor. He was also a menace off ball himself. These are all little things that get lost with time, and if it happens to Jordan, its happening to guys like Reggie 10 fold@@ssj4goku18825theepic

[@ssj4goku18825theepic]

@@HailKingCeezer people like harden demar derozan and even Kawhi(who I think in terms of realistic big hands and build plus elite defence comes close to Jordan today in the modern era) especially are proof that Jordan would dominate and being that his mindset is top notch he’d easily have seasons where he’d average 40+ even. If he was able to average 36-37 at the peak of his career then what makes these fans who absurdly say otherwise think he wouldn’t dominate the game today. Infact I see Mj also winning atleast a second DPOY and his competition for that award was also pretty competitive in itself back then. He’d easily win the dpoy whether it was Lebron earlier comp from 2010s or Giannis comp since 2020

[@rashadcotton3260]

Great video. I think Scottie career would’ve been like Charles or Clyde without mike

[@Sincere529]

Great video.

[@OakTownBizz-zm8rx]

3:30 wow i ain't know dat about 50 game n 89 days

[@troyfew2373]

Scottie should have been asking Mike to get in on some of his investments, and he wouldn't be hurt today

[@austinlink68]

Yea that would of been crazy if he won. Cause he beats Phil gets one more than Jordan but also gets a ring with the team that should’ve of taken Jordan. Crazy

[@jbug1979]

I love Pottie Scippen. He's one of my all time favorite players.

[@rebecalinares5393]

He was cever nlutch.

[@jbug1979]

@@rebecalinares5393 clever nutch

[@rebecalinares5393]

@@jbug1979 no Pippen aint clever.

[@LeonYuL]

Pippen was a great help and one of the best second hand and that's all, he couldn't handle the pressure when it matters the most just as he couldn't handle his own emotions

[@hristijandimitrovski8664]

Hm... Wrong. He just played with underdog teams. You can't say that before those series started in 2000, people were expecting that series would be soo tough. I guarantee you that many people thought that would end in 4 or 5 games. Lakers were more stacked team simply. But Scottie as the leader of that team led them to a 7 games against that championship Lakers team. That was phenomenal effort by Pippen to me.

[@g24deez]

​@hristijandimitrovski8664 lil fella the Blazers were just as stacked as the Lakers fella. Also the Lakers hadn't won anything yet fella. Also the Blazers went to the 99 WCF and lost to the Spurs so they decided to bring in Pippen for his veteran presence and championship experience and he blew a 13 point lead going into the 4th quarter of the 00 WCF fella. At that time it was Pippen who won not the Lakers yet fella so Pippen were expected to win fella lol. Nice try with ur revisionist history fella lol

[@hristijandimitrovski8664]

@@g24deez no, they weren't. Lakers were more stacked. And check the fact that Scottie was 37 years old at that time I think. For someone who was 37 years old to have games like that is very, very impressive. He had 19 points I think in game one, than he laso had 21 in game 2 or game 3 while being defensive monster, he had 6 assists, 6 STEALS AND 4 BLOCKS😱😱tell me about some greater defensive performance in play offs than that. There are only few of them, and all of those performances are by big man. Scottie literally out exellent stats for any age, but being 36 or 37 years old... That's really, really impressive soo he definitely did his part. In game 7 he wasn't good, but there is no way in hell that Portland would play in that 7th game if wasn't Scottie who carried them on both ends...

[@g24deez]

@@hristijandimitrovski8664 lil fella yes Portland were just as stacked as the Lakers lil fella. The Blazers went to the 99 WCF without Pippen but they lost to the Spurs lil fella. They decided to bring Pippen in to get them over the hump and he blew a 13 point lead going into the 4th quarter of the 00 WCF fella. Pippen wasn't brought in to get them back to the WCF because they already went without Pippen fella and he failed fella. The next three seasons in Portland Pippen got bounced outta the 1st round fella lol. Also Pippen was 34 when he 1st signed with Portland fella. Pippen failed fella lol

[@hristijandimitrovski8664]

@@g24deez no, he did not

[@BLI_80s]

Post Jordan, Pippen is still a force. But who knows if he would have developed the same way if they'd never been teammates? It would be incredibly interesting to know how much influence Jordan had - if any - over a young 80s Pippen. It's too bad Pippen is so sour now, we'll probably never know

[@dapper892]

MJs influence was palatable. No question. Pippen was NOT ready to contribute right away. He was seen as a raw project at the time. The pick was even met with criticism. MJ pushed him to be tougher mentally and to work. And guarding every day in practice surely helped Pippen become the defender he is. If Pippen stays in Seattle and was forced into a production told too early on a bad team with no veteran to guide him he may have short circuited. We’ll never know.

[@BLI_80s]

@@dapper892 have you come across any interview or commentary that directly talks about MJ pushing Pippen specifically? It's not that I don't believe it happened, it's that I've never heard the exact details.

[@dapper892]

@@BLI_80s well. Living in Chicago it was kind of a mix of commentary and seeing the transformation I’m not just Scottie, but everyone around MJ during those years. All that sports and local news commentary from 35 years ago is long gone. Things that referenced pippens soft nature, poor series vs Detroit in 1988 and 1989. His migraine in 1990. I can’t paraphrase years of local Chicago commentary here. But if you watch Last Dance Scottie literally says “I needed MJ to be the bad guy, needed the push”. Other teammates made clear MJ was the one pushing them in practice (by force) to get on his level). Wennington, Armstrong, Perdue all made similar comments. He pushed them when they didn’t want to be pushed. Guys like magic, bird, Thomas, Barkley, Ewing, Malone, Hakeem were all studs immediately. Scottie, was not, he was sitting the bench year one and not an all star until year 4. It’s a fact. Tall, athletic, good handles. But not a great shooter, not the defender he later evolved into and he was timid mentally. 88 and 89 you could see him taking steps but Detroit really pushed him around, Horace too. They’d react and get frustrated, and be intimidated etc… Scottie was not ready. MJ was fighting and doing his this, and trying to pull them along. Finally in 1991 you could see they’d turned a corner, and they all had the same demeanor, confidence and fire MJ had. You had to be there. 1990 vs 1991 was night and day. They were the dog now and if you lived it you knew MJ attitude and competitiveness had imprinted on them. And Scottie’s defense, that was a result of Phil putting Scottie on MJ in practice. Which continued for years. You guard the best player in the world it’s going to sharpen you, and everyone else is easy.

[@BigXavs]

what are the odds of me finishing The Last Dance and seeing this on my feed right afterwards ? lol

[@jonnyarnett]

Dude 😂 I hate how much our tech knows about us sometimes….

[@markjackson6431]

@@jonnyarnett PLEASE JOHNNY PLEASE a video on Dream Team 2 (94 FIBIA Team) PLEASE

[@chris14487]

Scottie was a great player and a necessary part of the Greatest Team Ever! That said, Scottie is still the biggest head case to ever play for the Bulls, Rockets, and Blazers and that includes Dennis Rodman and Ron Artest!

[@chiefs816kc]

Probably get more views if you renamed the video "Scottie Pippen’s WEIRD life After Retirement." LOL

[@ikedatike2533]

😂😂 I'm a younger cat so tho this is 100%

[@2KDUDE22]

Pippin gets lost in Jordan s shadow but he deserves his as one of the best all around players ever! I know he s said some dumb things lately but imagine being someone else’s shadow your whole career when you know you re one of the best ever.

[@joel8692]

The shadow he was under is the best player ever tho

[@TripleCubedTriune]

That blazers vs Lakers series was fun to watch.. blazers got robbed

[@unclegreenskatesoda9570]

You should do a video like this but like, do 'what if' with players like Pip, like seeing how it didn't work in Houston, what would have possibly been a better trade for him AND Chicago with hindsight being 20-20... Obviously the Bulls got little back for him and thought they were doing him a solid putting him with two other legends... what would have been the right fit for Pip ?

[@VenomousX]

It's sad Pippen didn't show MJ love when Jordan has done nothing but show Pippen respect.

[@somerandoasshatontheintern8337]

lmao dat chuck interview.

[@Wet_n_Soft]

That thumbnail is crazy bro

[@nathanaelbutler3494]

Pippin without Jordan is simply a great player who needed an even greater player than himself on his team to win a championship.

[@elliota.1063]

Hmm--the video shows how Pippen almost won a championship with the 2000 Blazers, which would've given him more chips than MJ. Just sayin'...

[@jonnyarnett]

@beery6659 Lol, stop it. I’m 34 years old and watched every playoff game that season LIVE. I NEVER referred to Pippen as the Blazers best player, but as their leader. Their best player was Rasheed Wallace, but let’s not act like Pippen didn’t have an impact, just to suit your biases

[@Classicbasketballdvds]

If the Blazers win the 2000 chip, Pip is looked at a lot differently I think. It's weird to see all the players that was on the Bulls on other teams after the Last Dance season lolz

[@ckyung1312]

I’ve heard of love triangles. Pippin being weird like wanting a hate triangle with TRMOR and HisAir🐐ness

[@donkashaveli]

I bet If jordan knew years later Pippen would backstab him he would approve the trade to get Tracy Mcgrady

[@tankeater]

"Superman Batman combo" 🤣 Pippen was NEVER close to a 2000-2002 KOBE 🤦‍♂️

[@Noob_Guy2k]

That pippen blazers team was so cool lol

[@jonnyarnett]

“Jail Blazers” were DEEP. They could have no one score over 20 points, and you’d still lose to them by 25

[@Noob_Guy2k]

@@jonnyarnett shit like that intrigues me makes me wonder about other stars who could end up on teams in the future like wade on bulls was cool too bro plz if u have the time make that a vid stars that had good runs w other teams near end of career

[@jonnyarnett]

Awesome suggestion. I’ll put it on the to-do list

[@markjackson6431]

@@jonnyarnett PLEASE JOHNNY PLEASE a video on Dream Team 2 (94 FIBIA Team) PLEASE

[@brendanamusmaximus7560]

That pic with kerr and pipp is funny, if anyone told you kerr would get a ring post bulls and not pipp you wouldve said they were tripping😅

[@zxcvb3772]

Both of them joined great teams. It just turns out that Kerr joined a greater team with Tim Duncan.

[@brendanamusmaximus7560]

@@zxcvb3772 you're not wrong

[@w1ngman05]

He was inconsistent I think since 1997 at the least, and that's why MJ was the perfect teammate for him and vice versa. But I think if you put another All Star with MJ from 1996 to 1997, let's say a Steve Smith, there is higher likelihood that Bulls will still win those 3 championships compared to if you remove MJ from Pippen and insert Chuck/Grant Hill/Penny/Reggie. He was amazing as a Bull, but context would say he was inconsistent offensively.

[@robhughes8198]

Scottie is just like Tommy Gunn in Rocky IV. Sure he had potential but his mentor and predecessor before him gave him the edge to meet his full potential. Then his ego couldn’t handle being in the shadow of those better than him.

[@chadchesney3858]

Portland should have won that series. Buuut Pippen disappeared in the 4th quarter and didn’t come through. Look Pippen was an all around good good player. But leader?? I just don’t know. He lead the Bulls 93/94 season successfully. But not greatly. Pip was an outstanding number 2 guy. Up there with Worthy and McHale. But I don’t believe he could have ever led a team to a championship. Just wasn’t an elite” level player. But an outstanding player none the less. A hall of famer I mean come on.

[@CMDJH]

Its questionable whether the blazers can defeat the pacers.

[@OakTownBizz-zm8rx]

If Blazers won game 7 Pippen legacy a b Hella different

[@siner2442]

This is just proof that he couldn’t even outshine an old out of his Prime Barkley, when they were on the on the same team… at some point, Pippen tought he was better than MJ and should be #1 on any team he played with! He couldn’t accept being #2 but he couldn’t put up crazy points when needed in the Playoffs like Barkley or Miller, and put the team on his back… nothing wrong with knowing ur position and playing ur part? U gotta accept ur role and try to be the best at it! And Pippen is the Greatest #2 ever! The best sidekick and part of one the best duo’s in NBA History. Played on One of the greatest teams and played a role in helping them get Six Championships!

[@markjackson6431]

PLEASE JOHNNY PLEASE a video on Dream Team 2 (94 FIBIA Team) PLEASE

[@ktapreswreckd921v9]

Scottie is one of the most complete basketball players ever! With that being said, he should have been better actually? Like averaging twenty plus points a game for his career. He was capable of such a feat

[@brianbanks8570]

Cared and Gave too much on defense to max out his offensive numbers!! You can’t have it both ways!! Scottie knew defense is what won championships! Not hogging and splashy 55 point games! That’s why the Bulls struggled to win or flat out lost games when Mike had scoring outbursts!! The team would blow fools out when Pip lead the way or there’s was balanced scoring!! Teams love it when there’s a one man show going on and everyone else just watches!! Look it up!

[@ktapreswreckd921v9]

@@brianbanks8570 I agree with you. It's just that I remember Scottie averaging twenty points a game at least four times in his career. And it's just mind boggling that he didn't continue to do that. He certainly had the tools. Maybe the mindset comes into play?

[@rebecalinares5393]

He was never clutch. Dissapeared always on important and tense moments.

[@ktapreswreckd921v9]

@@rebecalinares5393 You will get no debate from me about Scottie having the clutch gene. Because I don't think that he did However we have to acknowledge his truly all-around game. Pippen could score, rebound, defend, handle and pass the ball like a point guard. And he was a great athlete who obviously took care of himself. He's just better suited as the second best player on a team. He wasn't that Alpha type player.

[@faruquekhan3353]

Yeah in terms of all around game Scottie was superb. Honestly he was needed in that Bulls team to strengthen it overall. The problem is that now he starts dissing everyone from Bulls especially Jordan the guy you won 6 championships with.@@ktapreswreckd921v9

[@Fernando-vg4ym]

Honestly, I don't think the Bulls would've won a title without MJ. However, I could see those same Bulls winning one or more titles without Scottie. Considering that Scottie wasn't even an All-Star the first or last of their titles. But, yes. Scottie was crucial to the other four titles. What nobody realizes is that MJ molded Scottie. What makes anybody think that MJ couldn't have done the same thing with another player? Perhaps somebody else could've done better. Anyway, food for thought.

[@faruquekhan3353]

Exactly, I agree with that. You could not get another Jordan but you could get someone else like Scottie or even better. It's one of the reason why I give Shaq so much credit for that Lakers 3 peat because Shaq could have gotten another player like Kobe at that time to win but Kobe could not get someone like Shaq at that time. However to Kobe's credit, he improved like crazy after Shaq left and even during Shaq's time too he improved but after Shaq left, Kobe continued improving and eventually won 2 more championships. Pippen was never close to Jordan or considered best for his position.

[@ramsesstafford4640]

I'm 45 years old I've seen Pip's whole career and if he was as great as he thinks he is he would've did better with the Rockets and especially the Trail Blazers. I don't think anyone thinks Michael Jordan on the same Rockets and Trailblazers teams wouldn't have dominated and at least went to the Finals.

[@Sheng-Li248]

He said "SORRY fat butt". Get it right Jonny. 😂

[@pyeuneu]

Pip probably had good 2-3 years left in his tank to be at least lower tier all star but he opted to be "a team player" and relegated himself to be a third option guy.

[@darlingj.canela]

Damn I didn't know Pippen manage himself to eliminate the Jazz again on his post Jordan career. That's crazy.

[@AlasNGpasay]

He is consistent