Jordan and McKay Pt. 2 - Jordan’s Mormon Story - Ep. 1539

[@MrsMrMoney]

It’s so upsetting to me that when you tell your mother as a teen that you had consensual sex, she becomes hysterical for 3-5 days, but did nothing when you were 8 and told her you were being abused. Awful. I’m so sorry

[@jaggirl]

It's soo sad to hear that part especially.

[@JennaBaxterStudio]

Right? This has me feeling a bunch of feelings.

[@heavenj7]

Agree. This was the typical reply back when I was growing up as a teen in the 80s sadly. Now it’s considered abuse and I’m just now at 52 healing my traumas. It’s so great and so beneficial that stories like this are here for people to learn from! And to know this isn’t ok this is abuse!

[@thecleverbit]

Can we all give Jordan a standing ovation for her courage and bravery when sharing her story? I'm in awe of her strength.

[@tracytaylor1893]

Absolutely

[@cutekitens7]

🧍‍♀️👏

[@pastimesfarm]

Jordan. Wow. Just. Wow

[@katythriftyunder35homeowne57]

I was just going to say this!!❤❤

[@katbos4995]

My 8 year old daughter was groomed by her biological dad, my husband, to believe that’s how you “showed love” (sexual abuse). I worked nights as a pediatric nurse. My daughter didn’t even think to tell me, she thought it was normal. I heard a voice in my head say, “Divorce him and leave him now!” I did! That voice had saved my and our lives many times. As my daughter became an adult, she had shame thinking it had been her fault. Until she had kids. When her oldest turned the age that her abuse started, she realized her child had zero sexually, was extremely innocent, therefore she had been innocent too. At that point, she cut off all contact with her dad. 26:30

[@holdonC]

Hearing Jordan say she didn’t feel she could tell her mom just broke me. I never want anyone to feel they are unable to come to me. Especially my own children.

[@rebeccan1673]

I just wanna say one thing, I am SO glad they have each other. I admire their strength big time.

[@TheWitch-sEcho]

I cried when Jordan talked about her mother's reaction. I remember telling my mother I had been repeatedly sexually assaulted by family member. At first she acknowledged it. She started crying and then suddenly, like a switch had been flicked, she told me that I hadn't been praying enough and I was probably just having nightmares. I didn't think I could feel more broken until that moment. I grew up a Jehovah's Witness. What would happen if everyone knew that our lives weren't perfect? Thank you Jordan for sharing. Normalizing the ability to share our experiences is incredibly important.

[@Alyse_bell]

I am so sorry that happened to you.

[@purpleslurple5149]

@@monstana no one "needs" to experience abuse.

[@u2berist]

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[@Nikki-sf6bs]

I have had an easier time letting go of the abuse than I have from the fact my mother did not believe me. I am so sorry. I understand.

[@Toywins]

@@purpleslurple5149 maybe English isn't her first language.

[@MelanievanGrieken]

Oh Jordan, I just can't imagine the trauma you went thru, but the courage to tell this to so many people and be so open about it is admirable. You are a power woman! and a huge digital hug to you, mckay and the little bean

[@xrisxros747]

... woman? woman?? oh... imaginary woman..

[@karenvanessan.2000]

@@xrisxros747 what's the problem? I think she meant to say "powerful woman"

[@juliaschuette5351]

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[@rhutabaga420]

I think Jordan is going to be a phenomenal social worker. I'm already thankful for all the help I know she's going to give to so many people.

[@martiwillis1848]

Jordan and McKay are the age of my grandchildren. This does not prevent me from being in awe of their character, wisdom and critical thinking skills. I am in tears today concerning Jordan’s story. I have not viewed the vid about her c section because I know it will be hard to hear how she suffered. Now I know she suffered even before that. It is my deep and profoundly held hope that you feel safe, sweet Jordan. You are worthy of it.

[@queenbee8309]

I have been following Jordan and McKay every since their first time on the DCP. I had tears listening to Jordon’s story. I was raised in the Catholic Church and suffered many years of sexual abuse ( by my bio father)from the age of six ( I’m now in my 60’s). My admiration for Jordon is HUGE. I am so thankful for the times we live in today. Abuse can be talked about … confronted so much easier than they could in the 1960’s and 1970’s. I wish I had half the strength of Jordon!

[@fj59]

You have so much strength, especially making it through so much of your life carrying such a burden when the world wasn’t ready for victims to speak up. You are an inspiration to many and you deserve all the love in the world ♥️

[@patchy8086]

Jordan, thank you for sharing your story! I'm a pediatric resident. This really helped me grasp and recognize that unsure feeling i had about some kids i've seen where i had this icky feeling "something IS wrong", but I couldn't really grasp it. You really opened my eyes and gave me some (imho) good pointers. I hope you can help me help a child :) thank you!!

[@d6d6d6d61]

I recommend the book "The Gift of Fear", it talks about this intuitive sense that somethings wrong

[@Indi_Waffle_Girl]

[@coll4455]

❤

[@katherine5797]

I felt so physically ill listening to all of the sexual assault aspects of Jordan’s story but I had to pause, walk away, and actually cry to my boyfriend about wanting a baby monitor in her room. Thinking about having a child, allowing them to be abused under our roof, ignoring their concerns about abuse, taking them to the doctor frequently for symptoms of abuse, and still not putting my foot down? Any person my child says is making them uncomfortable wouldn’t be allowed in my home. If they wanted a baby monitor in their room because of a family member making them uncomfortable coming in their room? That’s a disgusting thing to just ignore. I’ve never wanted to cause bodily harm to strangers more in my life than I do right now. Not just Jordan’s abuser but her mom for ignoring and denying it and her uncle for trying to cover it up.

[@Smilesremember2Smile]

I know it's horrible. I can't believe how awful her life was as a child

[@CatskillsGrrl]

I had to take a break, too. Heavy stuff.

[@sarahh6707]

Oh my goodness. So "sexual sins" are Akin to murder, but they think you should protect your abuser?! I am so so sorry for all you went through. I cannot imagine how hard it was to not even have the support of your own mother.

[@Smilesremember2Smile]

This story is absolutely painful to listen to.

[@ItsBrit]

The mental gymnastics are quite amazing aren't they?

[@pokemami]

I agree so much with John the church increased the issues within Jordan's life, but then were the one who presented the solution. It's insane, I was thinking that the whole time! So glad it was pointed out.

[@lifewithduchenne3030]

I was a convert at age 8. Perfect time to be baptised. Our family friend who I babysat for was the president of our branch. He abused me for years before I told. I'm crying watching this.

[@katbos4995]

The Branch President! Omg, I’m so sorry! I can only imagine how this messed up you trust in men, and God.

[@emilym1854]

The dynamic of everyone in this conversation is great. No one is speaking over another person, the flow to “tangents” are so relevant and appropriate, everyone’s mind is open and fully invested in learning more about each other’s experience and finding out the core issues

[@coll4455]

This!!!!!

[@why25why]

My heart is breaking hearing Jordan's experience. Everyone who was supposed to protect a vulnerable little girl repeatedly let her down. I can't help but see the parallel between Jordan being dragged back to her therapist to recant her story with her mother and family member waiting in the car, and Jordan taking her college friend to the Bishop while she waited in the car. Unconsciously following imprinted patterns. Such a poised young lady - and has all the makings of a compassionate therapist.

[@holdonC]

Jordan saying she felt like an “old maid” at 20 in the church is exactly the feeling given to unwed young women in the church.

[@dp48755]

I have always been blown away by Jordan’s compassion, kindness, strength, and also sense of humor and personality. and after hearing this, i cannot even imagine the strength she exhibited to survive this, little less the strength to come out as such a shining and amazing person. thank you for sharing this, doing what you do, and helping others. i am so blown away.

[@devont3002]

Wish her mom could have had the same energy towards obvious abusers that she did towards imaginary demons. Thank you Jordan for sharing your story. You are so strong and so smart and so lovely and so valid. You’re an inspiration!

[@kristinkrauss5610]

Fantastic interview. As a former youth director within the United Methodist Church, my ears perked up when you mentioned towards the end about the systems in place within denominations like Methodism. I would like to add, I highly value these systems, but even within the past few years, I experienced quite a bit of pushback when training volunteers about the systems, or when protective policies were being enforced. At the end of the day, as a culture, and as people who follow God in various contexts, child safety must be prioritized in a revolutionary way. I love Jordan and McKay, and as a never-mormon, I so appreciate their insights and experience sharing. I pray for their ongoing healing.

[@laurenthomas7464]

Crying while listening to Jordan speak. I have been watching them for so long and didn’t know their stories and I am so grateful they were willing to share their experiences. Beautiful people.

[@mathematicalmatt]

As a child, I asked my parents, "If someone confesses a crime to a bishop, does the bishop have to call the police?" They told me that bishops--"like other priests and pastors"--had confidentiality with their congregants. Even children can see that it's a systemic weakness, but a lot of grown ass adults have the equivalent of software patches band-aiding over these moral issues.

[@ariel434]

Well said

[@VirginiaGeorge]

This is not true in many states. I took a ministerial ethics class in seminary last year and they had us look up mandated reporting laws in our individual states, and most people reported that clergy are mandated reporters.

[@jensenpratt4347]

It’s possible OP is talking about the Catholic Church. In the Catholic Church, anything you say in confession to a priest etc., is in total confidence so they do not report heinous crimes. I’m sure other denominations do.

[@VirginiaGeorge]

@@jensenpratt4347 this may be true, but it would be my assumption that it is improper. If clergy are legally mandated reporters, I don’t think any clergy privilege would void their responsibility to report.

[@thecatlimitdoesnotexist]

Unfortunately, in a lot of places “Clergy privilege” still exists and they do not have to report even when it’s CA/CSA.

[@_gremlinboy]

Always manage to be surprised by Jordan's resolve. With the video about her c section and now the details about her childhood not long after, I just have a ton of admiration for her. (Addendum, as someone who has trauma I know it's no fun to be treated like you're brave for being hurt, so to be clear what I admire is the way she's worked so hard to recognize the abuse for what it was and be able to explain it publicly like this- after explaining one (1) traumatic event to my therapist I feel like I need to sleep until next week's session so I am just in awe.)

[@Nickabod79]

Listening to you talk about your mom was reminding me so much of mine, Jordan. Daughter of a likely-BPD mother here, who was physically abusive to my already disabled body. I couldn't imagine having the overlay of a cult over that. I've been no contact for 10 years, and I have a 5 yo who doesn't even know her. My parenting strategy has been thinking about what my mom would do in a given parenting situation, and then doing the exact opposite. It's been pretty foolproof. Here's to surviving, and to therapy-- you are a warrior, but I am very sorry that you had to be from such a young age.

[@daianarutolo3068]

I know understand the hatred that Mckay always exudes when talking bout Jordan's mum, and honestly same. She is a victim of the church and everything else, but she was an abuser too and harmed Jordan to unimaginable levels. I wish nothing but healing, happiness and love to Jordan ❤❤❤

[@Muddylittlegoblin]

Cried in my car on the way to work listening to Jordan discuss how desperately she tried to get the attention of her mother. My heart just shatters for you, Jordan. Thank you for being so vulnerable to share these moments, it’s vitally important that others know these types of things so they can better assist the people in their lives who may be displaying similar traits.

[@autumnblond]

I love this couple. I noticed Jordan looking back to Mckay. I am so happy she has a loving support system in her husband. Thank you for your story Jordan.

[@neurotika]

2:10:00 This is so great. John is having a real-time epiphany and I love it. And Cara is right, societal gender roles make it easier to accept the back seat placement for a woman. I’m just speculating here, but I imagine that because our culture as a whole reflects its Christian roots, patriarchy is more or less the default. So women, secular and theistic, internalize these cues and form their understanding of “normal” around it. Subconsciously we understand that men are just inherently more capable, even in the context of feminism we compete with the patriarchal standard. They set the bar. Our identity in part is formed with that. So the systematic subjugation of women is almost natural in the context of the church.

[@mormonstories]

Brilliant.

[@tiffanyturner4496]

I am wildly impressed with the compassionate, empathetic, supportive way that this group has been able to tell such a difficult and heavy story. The support of McKay's knowledge about Jordan's experiences to safely bring out details that listeners would never think of is amazing. And John's ability to ask important questions and give support in such a sensitive way is phenomenal. I'm gutted that any of this ever happened to Jordan or any children. I adore the Jordan and McKay content and the way it's presented on KZbin. And now it's extra interesting to hear this contrast of both your stories in the Mormon Stories format as well. Thank you for sharing.

[@rachelf973]

Jordan, thank you for sharing your story so openly. I can’t imagine how hard this was for you, especially seeing your IG stories after and I’m proud of you for speaking up. McKay, thank you for supporting her. as I watch I keep seeing Jordan look to you for comfort and assurance.

[@Riverchild27]

Jordan, I am sad and angry that you had to go through the traumas of your life. Kids should be protected and loved and believed. I’m also so glad that you shared with us here and on your channel, you are helping so many people both ex-mos and never-mos.I’m finally at 44 going to therapy in part because you and Jordan speak so openly about therapy.

[@karinnewman345]

Jordan, thank you for sharing your story. I can only imagine the work you have done to heal from the things that have happened to you. I truly appreciate you talking about your sexual and emotional abuse. You are helping others for sure. One of the silver linings of you going back to the church is you found McKay. You make a dynamic couple and I am happy for you. You will be one of the best therapists too! Sending love ❤️ and hugs 🤗.

[@Pamela-su1hh]

Jordan, the resilience and strength you show throughout this is amazing. I’m so sorry you were hurt as a child but I’m so super impressed that you can turn that trauma into something powerful and change the world for the better. Thank you for sharing your story with the internet community. 💜

[@RZTree]

Until this video I didn't really realize that some people get to live their entire lives without even imagining recieving abuse as a child. I loved the way this moment was approached and executed.

[@Bananachan289]

By announcing your period starting..: Was your mother warning your abuser?? Also I’m so sorry about everything that has happened to you. I suffered similar birth and childhood trauma and my husband like McKay is my “was this normal?” 😂

[@YOUAreTheSecretToLife]

I thought this same thing 😭

[@Kb-gh2rk]

I also wondered that. Like was this her way of telling the abuser in a way that made it seem like she was addressing everyone so that no one could ever say she knew cause she told him one on one.

[@noneofyourbeezwax7284]

I thought that too 😔 I have a sinking feeling the mom suspected, or even was abused herself and just couldn’t bring herself to admit it. Heartbreaking thoughts

[@linzzzz9022]

I absolutely think this was the motive for her mother oversharing. It makes me sick. I’m in awe of Jordan’s courage and resilience.

[@Smileygld123]

Thank you for being so open, Jordan. I know this is hard. To everyone in this coversation, it's making me process 20 year old S abuse that I didn't understand.

[@Smileygld123]

And I am grateful to you for bringing this up and out in the open.

[@lindsaybear722]

Jordan’s story made me cry. She’s such a beautiful person, so amazing she overcame so much in such a short time.

[@sarahackerman6414]

Jordan I cannot even imagine the courage it takes to open up about all of this. And McKay I cannot imagine how heartbreaking it is to listen to a loved one speak about theses things, knowing you cannot go back and change things. You are both beautiful souls and are changing lives by speaking out

[@jennysueKasiah]

Jordan!!!!! Thank you so much for sharing your story!❤❤❤ You are an absolute power house. I hope sharing your story helps your healing journey.

[@Alyse_bell]

I am so sorry that you had to deal with that growing up. Having your own mother not believe what happened to you, to put the reputation of her and the family over your own wellbeing and security is absolutely disgusting. Your an even stronger woman than I first thought.

[@nicholewarren4229]

Jordan, your bravery and strength are so powerful and from one (former) social worker to another, your story is so important. Thank you for sharing. (Also, McKay, seeing the way that you respond to Jordan throughout this so supportively, verbally and nonverbally, is really amazing to see. Big props to you too, trauma like this can affect loved ones if they don't do the work!)

[@paulashelton8216]

Jordan, I can’t even begin to tell you how sorry I am that you experienced the things that you did. You’re a strong, resilient, amazing and powerful woman and you’re so amazing. Thank you for sharing your story.

[@Ameliamaemay1990]

Jordan, I have been watching your KZbin channel for sooo long…like I’m pretty sure since the beginning and I knew some hints from a few things you have said on your channel but like McKay said, as much as it may feel some of this stuff was “normal” at the time it was not. I am so sorry for you not being believed. The abuse I experience and sexual assault, as well as harassment were made far more traumatic when people either undermined it or doubted me. I couldn’t imagine if my mom didn’t believe that I was r*ped. You were born to be a bad ass feminist bitch and I am glad you can own that now!!

[@claudiabauer2291]

Jordan, I can’t applaud your bravery enough in sharing your story with us all. What you’ve gone through is completely horrifying and something no one, much less a child, should ever have to experience. Seeing the courageous, charismatic woman you’ve become, the bravery you’ve shown, and the work you’ve put in to get to where you are now is nothing short of inspirational. Sending love 💗

[@felixkahn4845]

I'm always amazed how much people are willing to share on this podcast. It's a credit to the podcast and to each individual guest that you get such in-depth stories about people's lives. Sending so much love to Jordan.

[@leonafrank8423]

Thank you so much for sharing your story Jordan. Thank you Mormon Stories for having Jordan and McKay. I love their content and watch all their videos.

[@brittanybuscay2668]

I have never cried listening to a MS podcast until now. Jordan you are the strongest woman I know. Thank you for sharing such a personal story. We all love you. So happy I subscribed to your channel from the beginning. You and McKay are very special and it's people like you that make a difference.

[@rosesrocktalks1283]

Thank you so much for being so open, honest, and vulnerable. I admire your bravery and vulnerability. I was also a victim of sexual assault by a family member and because I heard stories of victim blaming I never told anyone. To this day I still struggle with PTSD from it and previous abusive relationships. Again, thank you so much for sharing your story. I wish I could give you a hug.

[@Kellyc888]

Jordan, my heart is so filled with love for you! Thank you for sharing your story. You're changing the world girl, one exmo life at a time!

[@TheFleshLives]

My heart goes out to Jordan. She truly is so strong to reiterate / relive her trauma.

[@doobiecfoogle]

When discussing the things your Mom did to you to control you, I lived that too! Trying to realize it is abuse but not wanting to make it "that" word b/c it doesn't seem abusive exactly, I felt that so much!! Thank you so much for sharing YOUR story!! The compassion you give yourself is a beautiful example for all of us. I hate like everything you, or anyone has to live this. Thank you to anyone brave enough to share their story w/someone else!!

[@amberinthemist7912]

I truly believe that the mormon church turns people especially women into control freaks. Healthy boundaries aren't a thing in the LDS church.

[@ar_m]

Jordan, you are so incredibly brave and strong to, not only have survived the abuse you endured but, then share it with everyone. You are incredible. Thank you for being so open and vulnerable. That must have taken a lot for you to do. I recently started therapy for abuse (emotional, verbal, gaslighting) and for many, many traumas in my childhood and adult life. Like you, I am lucky to have an amazingly supportive husband who is my metric for how normal something is or isn't. I feel like I'm raw from opening up about things and he's there for me. Like you, I would say things that seemed normal to me and my therapist would be like "no, that's not normal or ok." I also find myself trying to deconstruct my faith as my whole life gets called into question. I was in a normal, less intense Christian denomination but, the patriarchal rules and over emphasis on chastity that's a common thread in most religions, left me damaged. My own mother made comments about me 'earning my white dress' to the owners of the bridal shop. I didn't think much of it then but, the cringe level now makes me feel ill. You are an inspiration. I know you always say you're still working through everything but, you seem to have already worked through so much and I hope to do the same. I want to be happy and be a better mother to my children. You have made a difference in my life and I'm sure many others. Thank you and McKay for sharing your stories and educating us all. There are so many toxic things in most religions that, as you bring them up in your videos and in this podcast, it makes me go "my church did that crap too...dammit." You both are making a huge difference in the lives of so many. Keep up the great work and enjoy extra cuddles with your little one (as much as a toddler will allow) after laying all of your stuff out like this. ❤

[@KaraNolting]

Jordan, you're incredible. Thank you for sharing this with such courage and strength - watching everyone else listen with such support and no interruption was also incredible in its own way.

[@theexmocandleco.6528]

Thank you so much for sharing your story, Jordan. You're an amazing human being, and so glad you and McKay are on Mormon Stories!

[@VerbenaComfrey]

I'm here from Jordan and McKay's channel. I'm so sorry, Jordan. And I cannot BELIEVE anyone would teach kids that sex before marriage is near as bad as murder. That is absolutely sick.

[@sweetiealliex3]

I hope Jordan and McKay see this, I was never a Mormon, however I did come from another extreme religion growing up. I have watched every single video you guys have posted, I love watching you two! Also why I am watching these 3 hours videos 😂😂. Jordan: I can’t believe what you went through. I love hearing your perspective on these events and I think it’s so wonderful that you are turning your trauma into good with your studies. McKay: I love that you are different and okay with it! Your learning to love yourself for who you are! I could easily find myself being friends with you guys! Please keep going! Xoxo

[@bodytrainer1crane730]

OH MY!!! This interview is amazing. I can't even begin to express my admiration of Jordan. A spiritual super star. I am in amazement of what she has been through and how sound her mind is and how admirably she communicates. Seriously - WOW!!!! ❤️❤️❤️ Also I really enjoyed watching John model active learning as he was processing Jordan's story. I feel like he is learning so beautifully in real time. Carah is so cool and awesome and smart. I laugh at so many things she says and her interviewing skills are so sharp. Such high quality content. Thank you.

[@JoniEdson1]

I have watched so many Mormon stories … Jordan’s story is the first one I have commented on. Thank you so much for sharing

[@RachelA147]

THANK YOU JORDAN ❤️ Your story almost play by play echos my experience! Biggest difference between you and I, is that I wasn't welcome to return to church because I had a baby out of wedlock with my abuser.

[@kryssycolby5112]

Jordan we (who have watched your channel, etc.) have witnessed your strength in character. To see, watch what you have endured in your young life, you are a force! A true force to be reckoned with! It’s no doubt you have become the woman, wife, mother, friend that you are! I’m incredibly proud of you for coming out on this side! It’s an honor to have found you and McKey!

[@niteotter]

Thank you so much Mormon Stories for having the magnificent Jordan & McKay! You did a great thing.

[@jazwhoaskedforthis]

Jordan, my mom did the same information digging thing to me! She would go through my stuff including my diary, and then pretend tarot cards or spirits were telling her things. I estranged myself from her over 10 years ago now. I am still uncovering so many things that hurt me as a child. It absolutely is a process.

[@thatmiddle-agedex-mormongu2590]

This interview caused several trigger points for me as a child abuse survivor. My perpetrators were not Mormon, but as i tried dealing with my past in acting out leading to being disfellowshipped and consequently a volatile failed marriage & counselling within the Church, I was made to feel dirty and unworthy of Heavenly Father's love. Jordan, you & I can compare notes! My reason for leaving the Church was not related to s3xual abuse, but I see now how damaging Church culture and leadership handling these problems and issues can be polarising. John, I want to offer my story. I'm in Australia but ZOOM would work.

[@BG-ig6fd]

I just watched this episode for the second time. Jordan, my heart goes out to you. Carah, I miss you. McKay, you are such an authentic guy. John, I always enjoy hearing your psychological epiphanies. The list you all made at the end, of ways the church could do better.: There’s a good chance that is all impossible. Because if the church offered healthy sex ed and healthy self esteem teachings like “You are already worthy just for being alive”, then it would take a lot of their power away. How could they get people to donate 10% of their gross income and work for free at intensive volunteer callings and work so hard to have the right to go to the temple, donate two years of their lives, hard work and money to make ‘sales’ for the church, etc….if people were already worthy?? The LDS church isn’t the only organized religion to convince people in a heavy handed way that they need the church. Every single commercial/ad we see does the same thing: convince us we can’t live without the product they’re selling.

[@Ameliamaemay1990]

Yes you two ARE a big deal and thank goodness for therapists. I am so glad you have had that to help you, Jordan. McKay you are a wonderful person to be able to let Jordan know what was and wasn’t normal. My partner does the same for me and it’s very validating for me. Love you both so so much and I am so sorry you had to experience what you did and I am so glad you made it out. Ponzi scheme for life ❤️❤️

[@marcellacruser951]

Thank you MS, for doing what you do. Jordan, holy crop! You are up there with the bravest people I know. Thank you for being willing to be so open and vulnerable. You've all been doing good works since the start, but this is a step beyond. This will bring change.

[@changedmylife07]

I don’t have many words, but I am so grateful you shared your story, Jordan. Thank you ❤️

[@animeROX08]

These kinds of stories make me think more and more seriously about getting licensed as a therapist. I'm so proud of Jordan for coming through that life and into the strong woman she is. I am appalled how horribly her mother and the church failed her, if I were a parent in that situation I would have fought tooth and nail to protect my child, I would shun any family member that would do that to a child and just blow that fucking whistle. I'm reminded of Adam Scott Steed's story and how his father went and fought to protect his son and other kids and I'm so sad Jordan didn't have that. She deserved that and she is just amazing for sharing her story.

[@randomchick901]

Jordan, you’re truly an incredible person. Exceptionally eloquent, beautiful, and strong. Thank you for sharing your story. I’ve got some mom trauma too. You’re amazing for all the work you’ve done to grow and rebuild yourself. Thank you for what you do, both you and McKay are doing incredible things for so many people! Edit: also it’s pretty common in abuse when the abuse is the source of both pain and comfort. It’s cuts you off and makes you more dependent on those small moments of comfort

[@CHiCguitar]

I have been looking forward to this for so long. Thank you Jordan for taking the time to bare your soul to us so publicly. I can't express my gratitude to you enough. I have been with you all since the beginning here on KZbin! I love everything you do and you are such an amazing role model. I can't wait for tomorrow's podcast.

[@tiffo2022]

I have borderline personality disorder. However I am slightly more capable to control how I act, more than I was before diagnosis. I hope your mum gets help and become better for herself and everyone else’s same

[@ranicalerp7765]

Oh my gosh!! Jordan your story is just mirroring my own. The more I listen to it the more I relate to doing very similar things!! Wow. I wonder how many other people out there have walked this same path? Thank you so much for sharing your story!! This is so validating for me.

[@boydx4687]

There was a story going around our high school in the early 1970's; The seminary teachers cast out an evil spirit that was in a student. A few weeks later another student committed suicide. The story was that the evil spirit or spirits had gone into this other student and caused the suicide. Scared the crap out of me when I was in 9th grade.

[@doperagu8471]

Wow I have been watching Jordan and McKay's channel for a while (not every video but a lot of them) and I had no idea how deep and painful Jordan's story was. I applaud her for sharing her story and I think there will be a lot of people who identify with it. This was so brave. way to go, Jordan! Just know you have thousands of people who BELIEVE you and support you on your journey ❤️

[@saffronhammer7714]

I am a former JW (born in) and Jordan's mother and mine are so very alike. Trauma is still being healed from....

[@RestartTart]

Jordan, I am so sorry that this happened to you. I'm so in awe of your strength and bravery for so eloquently sharing your story.

[@jcclearing]

to comment on last video: the only time I stood when someone came into the room was in the military. The difference? I was standing up for an individual who had the power to send us into harms way, not a board member of the most successful and dishonest MLM corporation.

[@lynnanngilroy9195]

Jordan, you are an amazing woman. You are brave and strong. I admire how you are dealing with your trauma and you have chosen a field to work in where your compassion and understanding is so needed. You and McKay are an amazing team.💕💕💕💕

[@kat1984]

I'm sending Jordan a huge virtual hug for her horrific childhood. I cut my dad off for less.

[@HumblyQuestioning]

30:00 in and I have to come back to this episode because it is straining my emotions. I just want to thank Jordan for her bravery. She displayed some next level inner strength. Much love, Jordan

[@kittybear9693]

Sending you showers of love, just absolute endless showers of love to that lil person who deserved to have full time love,support & protection. ❤️

[@mooney9046]

Jordan is so bright and beautiful both inside and out. If I had to describe her general appearance/aura it would be like the sunshine. I had no idea she had to contend with such abuse and darkness as a child and young person. She is a young woman who walked through Hell and came out the other side. What an amazing story.

[@IamTheMom]

Jordan, Thank you for sharing your story. It is a reminder and so powerful for so many ppl to open their eyes to what is happening in secret to women and children in this culture. I am so glad you have the biggest cheerleader in McKay. You guys are the best! I used to feel so pressured in to staying in abusive marriages and just ”endure” for the sake of my children and just let myself get misstreated for the eternal family. I left and was totally without friends and family. My old friends now treat me as of I have a desease that They might catch of they talk to me 😂 It’s sad But I am doing better than ever 🙌🏼

[@coll4455]

The ending and the realization or conversation of the difference between men and woman was legitimately wonderful to watch and shows why these conversations are so important

[@Sky_Star-hq6bx]

This podcast will Save a Lot of Lives and a Lot of people's Sanity ! So Incredibly Valuable , Thank You for Validating Victim/Survivors !!!

[@kimberleyshelton9731]

Jordan, Thank you for being brave enough to share your truth.

[@Eponagirl0810]

Narcissism: insidious to the core. Jordan, I can so relate to these types who have slithered their way into my life for decades. Your channel continues to enlighten me, even though I knew a lot about the Mormon religion before I found you. May you, McKay and all of us abused people on earth find peace. Much love to you both.

[@saucyspice1]

Thank you for your story it’s hard to be so open in a public forum

[@heathermayfield4247]

Jordan - I am in awe of your courage and your determination to move up and on - your son is lucky to have you as his Mum.

[@brittanymanning3424]

Your story is putting so many pieces together for me. Thanks for your bravery.

[@linnjulo]

Big hug to you Jordan! This is heartbreaking. You are so brave!!

[@emmabrister747]

So many people who should have helped you failed you Jordan. My heart goes out to you.

[@Smileygld123]

My dad was bipolar, and I was raised in the Church. I can relate to your neglect, however it showed up differently for me. So sorry, (hugs).

[@Smileygld123]

He was also diagnosed at pyschoid affective disorder...and my mom is paranoid sychphrenic...so you're not alone.

[@creepypapermultipack]

1:45:34 every single parent and guardian and anyone who has children in their lives needs this message ingrained in their psyche. This is incredibly important and necessary information. Thank you for sharing your story with us, Jordan. It takes such courage and bravery to talk about trauma and abuse.

[@Cel_566]

Sending so much love to you Ms Jordan. Your courage, strength and authenticity is super inspiring. 💪

[@lizzieb19450]

Absolute power corrupts absolutely!!!!! Mormonism is a great example of this!!!!

[@carolina.campos]

Jordan, I have been wanting to hear your full story and I’m so glad you did. I imagine this must have been incredibly difficult to go through and to share. Thank you for that. Sending you both my love 🤍

[@catlady5381]

So much love to Jordan. Thank you for sharing so openly.

[@ellemarr7234]

A mother who offers her child for abuse for 7 years. I can’t find anything positive. She deserves nothing but the absolute worst