Jordan Peterson Completely Destroys Feminist Narrative

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[@ahmedeldahab412]

When your teacher says ' go home n improve your vocabulary'...

[@asheeeeeeshnjm]

When it's debate class and you get dunked on by a slovenian dumpster raccoon: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oqS6n5ecr9qCmZY

[@cedricbadjeck7767]

zero, is also a note!!! 🤣🤣🤣

[@williamgray7106]

😂😂

[@Mrbfgray]

Hahaha...indeed. Much more than that tho is the concepts involved, if he makes you THINK it's a GOOD experience.

[@souvik43209]

😂🤣

[@abumaawi2266]

i respect the woman for letting my man finish his words... not some oppression is it

[@gamersk1ll969]

362 likes but only 1 comment?

[@bicycle6810]

@@gamersk1ll969 no, 2

[@season2429]

agreed. most women those type wouldn't even let him deny

[@theydontknowmeson...]

Yea but she was pissed

[@tomkenning5545]

She did try a couple times though

[@1877Pegasus]

100% agreed with Peterson but at least I have to give the interviewer that she is polite enough to not interrup and try to follow the dialogue with Peterson, something other more aggressive interviewer was unable to do

[@nichrossi]

What do u agree with. Are u Jst designed to agree with whatever Peterson says? U have to be smart to even understand what's going on

[@goldrose432]

what's happening is the lady is getting shut down along with her biased perspective of men.

[@nichrossi]

@@goldrose432 shut down with a stupid come back..

[@goldrose432]

nichrossi well I can't say it was the perfect answer his answer has some points to it but she was so biased among women, I mean she's practically living in the past with that mindset. but she should travel around the world you know visit many countries for her vision to be broadened.

[@compytv8636]

I’m convinced that if feminist and sjw just listened and tried to understand what jordon is saying it would change. Some might arlready know that they are in the wrong but don’t want to be unpopular with their friends and groups they now belong too.

[@Ngan.marianguyen]

We need more healthy male figures like this for us girls and women to look up to

[@albertbrannan4]

I agree with you, we need more men like him. But…. there is a good chance when we do begin the process we’d be accused on “mansplaining” or being oppressive.

[@albertbrannan4]

F it. I guess I’m starting today.

[@Ngan.marianguyen]

@@albertbrannan4 lol good for you! Healthy men and healthy women

[@BenAri18]

no u need more healthy female figures for you girls n women to look up to, unfortunately for u most women nowadays r blinded by pathetic feminism ideologies

[@Stirlingsays]

There are great women role models, just not many today....unfortunately most of the good ones are in the past.....there were some wonderful women in my own family when I was a child in the seventies.....God knows what they would make of what young girls are told today.

[@whatever]

*FUN FACT* The interviewer (Helen Lewis) cheated on her now ex-husband and is divorced. She is a bit vague about the details, but admits that within 2 years of her marriage she "fell in love with someone else" (in other words she cheated on her husband).

[@oscarapplegate4313]

he called it!!!!!!!

[@sonictrasher]

source?

[@michaeljarboe9845]

No body asked

[@vedicwarriorOriginal]

@@michaeljarboe9845 LOL... Michael, u r that sorry ass Helen Lewis had an affair with, aren't you. 😉😂😂

[@vedicwarriorOriginal]

But, of course! 😂👏🤣🤣🤣

[@daveyloo]

“There are almost no women who rape men” 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Jesus if that’s her argument I think feminism has just died. Weak here 😂

[@varada2044]

Shes a karen lmao , deep down we all know feminism is just bullshit no cap

[@MsZsc]

third wave more like dont even have words

[@ARINOXMUSIC]

@@kylefer as terrible as it is (me speaking as a man)no one gives a shit bro...in society they label men as strength (biologically)so they think if a women raped you,you did something wrong and if you tried to defend yourself physically you're seen as the asshole and if you try to defend yourself verbally you're seen as weak unfortunately.(im not degrading men out there that are victims to this heinous crime but look at how most society sees it)

[@jonathonantwi-bosiako6318]

Her arguement is invalid regardless because British law does not allow for women to be offenreds of rape. S.1 sexual offences act (offence of rape) requires a "MALE" penis to penertrate a mouth, anus or vagina. It is biologically and legally impossible under current British law for a female or even a transgender male (female to male transition) to commit rape. Given that it is impossible to use it as a justificatio for her arguement because there is not a women in British history who has ever been charged with the offence.

[@eezlummockelchev420]

Well such cases are rising day by day. Just a month ago, i read about a Japanese teenage boy that was gangraped by college girls. Feminism of french revolution was the one that promoted equality now it just wants complete female dominance in the society. If we did not raise our voices like these gentlemen then we are going to see times that we can not even imagine.

[@mariocerdacornejo8530]

A worth discussion. She didn’t feel offended or stupid by his arguments. Well done both of you!

[@maurizioarrivabene8182]

Well you didmt watch the whole interview here

[@sujoychoudhury6867]

Lol

[@jamesbush7908]

“So you’re saying...”

[@sachinwijewickrama6902]

At the end of the argument she tries to punch him 🙄 watch the whole thing idiot

[@somedude8589]

@@sachinwijewickrama6902 you don’t have to be a dick about it

[@saltoftheearth8243]

I have worked in abuse recovery ministry here in America. And let me tell you, it’s just that most men don’t report rape, molestation, etc. Or even talk about it. So she had no clue what she’s talking about. I love Jordan Peterson.

[@allstory4600]

❤

[@Manishhkumar999]

I appreciate you are saying this

[@Pakiezel]

Interesting statement! How'd you know that is the case tho if they are not reported? Not trying to be smart but i'm actualy curious.

[@DoNotComply124]

@@Pakiezel I'm just theorising but I'd assume it's got something to do with "face" so to speak. Societally speaking, a man would probably be looked down upon for being taken advantage of by someone as it's not very "manly". Plus I personally know a few folk who have been but never reported it, it only came out in substance induced conversation I'm not saying I agree with being less manly, I just know how most of society would see the issue

[@saltoftheearth8243]

@@Pakiezel I work in ministry… it’s confidential. ♥️

[@mauriciocamacho3328]

This seemed more like a conversation more than destroyed, she actually took the time to listen to him.

[@AnitaDollar]

She didn't get to say anything

[@ademirmochi5423]

@@AnitaDollar she did, also, watch the entire interview, dont make the assumption that she didn't, using only a tiny clip of the interview, also, her behavior was really admirable, she just listened and gave him space to talk even if it is against her argument, she waited, and then spoke on her time to talk, that is an actual interview

[@thebotfather9508]

nah she got DESTROYED.

[@arielputramarthen67]

Is she really listen though? I watched this interview many times and on both sides of the aisle.. first time I watched it is when I was leaning more towards her ideas of patriarchy (I was a hardcore left wing feminist back then).. as time goes by, everytime I rewatched this interview, its become clear to me that she tend to win the argument instead of try to understand and listen.

[@somedude8589]

@@AnitaDollar please stop

[@maxinlife]

Stop labeling his videos this way. "JORDAN PETERSON DESTROYS THIS AND THAT" That's not the concept of sharing thoughts and communication. We talk to build, not to destroy. Titles like these are the reason less people listen to him. I think something like: Jordan Peterson and feminism narrative.

[@bboyswitch22]

I agree. This whole, us vs them mentality is ridiculous and takes power away from what's really being explained here.

[@asheeeeeeshnjm]

@Alexis B. There's nothing like disenfranchised, insecure young men seeking validation and living vicariously through youtube videos.

[@bigdaddyplaton6684]

Of Jordan Peterson explains the Concept of our Society

[@TheGoul29]

@Alexis B. Didn't like the pills?

[@airethor]

Max Rustine Do you know, Max, that Red Skelton the comedian, at the end of his variety show, often said “I come to build not destroy” about his comedy. Beautiful thought brother.

[@good_one_raggy]

Roving bands of tyrannical plumbers! 😂😂😂😂😂

[@MsZsc]

MUSHROOM KINGDOM

[@eddieperez8111]

@@MsZsc 😂😂

[@avocado1182]

1:59

[@Martin-88]

From your username I see you have taste 👌🏼

[@lonleyviolet8687]

Mario lol

[@Game822snake]

Being able to understand his words without rewinding the video every 5 seconds is such a great achievement to me

[@yatinkaushik9427]

This person deserves a huge round of applause. 👏👏👏👏👏. He has completely changed my views.

[@nichrossi]

Ofcourse u always had that view. What he said didn't make sense to me at all..

[@nichrossi]

@@beladury3751 smart? In response to women being raped every minute by men in most cases, women being targeted for flesh trading which is mostly organised by men. His response to counter this he says you have most number of men in prison, most no of sucides cases are of men etc was like women were responsible for it lol. Do u have a brain of your own or do u let Peterson do it for u. Compare the atrocities faced by men due to women vs the atrocities faced by women due to men. That would be completely one-sided in favour of women facing the worst. To believe this idiot you either don't have a brain of Ur known or u have been hypnotised.

[@nichrossi]

@@beladury3751 to u spreading hate is called smart.

[@nichrossi]

@@beladury3751 that's the most stupid come back ever How does that prove its not a male dominated society? When u have most of the atrocities committed on women by men n don't c much improvement in that for years..u still have women raped Nothin much is done abt it.. u still have women restricted to get out of the House.. u still have people deciding what women should wear instead of having men control their own equipments..

[@nichrossi]

@@beladury3751 I think ur just too ignorant. People like Jordon Peterson use their intellectual to sell their shit to ignorant people like u. He clearly knows what he is doing but he just wants to sell his shit..

[@danielblixt6486]

"Roving bands of tyrannical plumbers" 😂😂😂😂

[@Sychonut]

"Men and women throughout history have fundamentally cooperated to push back against **the absolute catastrophe of existence**." How I like that phrasing.

[@justthunderbolt40]

Actually that was the only wrong thing he said. He was spot on analyzing the western society and explaining how competence is different than power, but to look back at the medieval times(or any other time in history except the last century) and say that men and women cooperated on the same level is pure nonsense. Women had literally no rights or opportunityes back then, therefore it wasn't a cooperation between equal beings:it was patriarchy.

[@BaremetalBaron]

@@justthunderbolt40 I would say that is wrong. Men and women made tradeoffs, and many of the privileges men were given burdened them with heavy obligations, and women got a hell of a lot of entitlements and protections for the things they gave up. I can't honestly say the typical woman back then would have likely wanted to trade places. Indeed, studies of happiness and quality of life have traditionally had women coming out on top. The fundamental problem with the historical patriarchy argument is that it assumes power is MERELY power. But power, socially constrained within a community, comes at a cost, and actually takes the freedom to do certain things away. So it's really not immediately obvious who got the better deal when you look back soberly at history.

[@justthunderbolt40]

@@BaremetalBaron Surely men had heavy obligations and dutyes to fulfill, such as being always available for the lord to call as levy in a war;however, wars were also opportunityes to become either rich raiding enemy towns and villages, or either managing to capture an enemy lord and being knighted for this. War was hell, but also a way to improve their position. It's right to say that power doesn't only come in strength in a civilized society, however the daughter of a farmer had nearly 0 possibilities to improve her position or to change her life:she would continue to clean the house and raise the childrens after marrying someone of the village. She could not learn any profession, nor marry a noble. They may be happier because they had more security than men, but this doesn't mean that they had the same opportunityes.

[@BaremetalBaron]

@@justthunderbolt40 Fair enough, you're probably right that they had less agency to shape their lives. My point was just that many of the things they lacked (such as voting) had a corollary burden (civil service and conscription) that they weren't required to take on. Voting is a great example, because when polled, the vast majority of 19th century American women didn't WANT the vote because they didn't want to give up certain freedoms they already enjoyed in exchange for the responsibilities of service. So it's difficult to look at that as oppressive when many of men's rights were merely facilitators of their ability to provision and protect women. Also, the notion that women couldn't learn any profession is simply incorrect. There were trade guilds for female blacksmiths all the way back in the 14th century, and plenty of women were brewers or tavern owners or weavers.

[@justthunderbolt40]

@@BaremetalBaron I didn't know about the female guilds, thanks for the information. Voting is an excellent example to show that often we value security over freedom,but in medieval times neither men had the luxury to choose their lord, unless they rebelled against him.

[@MaryQueenOfDots]

I absolutely love this man, he never takes an argument without completely deconstructing it.

[@gabinbianchini2655]

There's where that woman is wrong when she says no man gets raped,,, very very misinformed

[@Calcifer111]

Fr, including prison population men are raped more than women

[@diskokulan4206]

the most chocking part is the woman not interrupting the man lmao

[@joeldesmond5617]

*shocking

[@kroatos606]

@@joeldesmond5617 maybe he's choking when he's in shock

[@thenextbigthing1393]

@@kroatos606 😂😂

[@AnitaDollar]

I'm not so shocked cause he won't even let her have a word in

[@thelamb9656]

@@AnitaDollar have you seen the entire interview or even the end of this video? She also cuts him off. Also she’s an idiot lol

[@elenafriedfreud4023]

Gotta respect her for letting him speak. Sadly that kind of appropriate behaviour is not at all a common thing with feminists

[@edward3287]

He's Jordon Peterson. Any person sitting infront of him will automatically get intimidated and shut up.

[@mamba2x88]

This woman cheated on her husband 😂😂😂😂😂

[@user-ns5yn8ux2u]

Did she really?

[@user-ns5yn8ux2u]

What's her name?

[@snazzysailor]

Lol its funny, at work when my women coworkers say: “can you do this, this is men’s work.” I’m like:” Hey I thought you women wanna be equals.” And then they stare at me, speachless.

[@aadityarajbhattarai46]

Destroyed Obliterated

[@TheWitness1895]

You fucking DETROYED those gals with FACTS and LOGIC

[@DkKombo]

Imagine if you asked them to do women's work. They dont see how sexist they are, then they complain that we'd be complaining

[@UnorthodoxMiscellaneousVideos]

#ShowMenSomeLove 💜 #RespectMen 💙 #HappyInternationalMensDay 💚 #NotAllMenAreSame 💛 #MenAreAlsoHumans ❤

I just can't get enough of Jordan Peterson, this person is absolutely magnificent in his arguments and even when they try to put words into his mouth that he never said or meant, he is able to argue correctly and shed light into the conversation. I admire him and I hope most men and women see the good in his words and listen carefully to what he's got to say, because we've been believing and educating wrong for decades and this needs to change.

[@debrawehrly9031]

I agree with JP on some things and disagree with him on other things. At least he is creating a dialog for people to discuss in a civilized manner.

[@anjalikndwl]

100% agree with everything you said. Just one teenytiny detail... just coz he talks nice and puts his arguments well, doesn't mean he is talking gold. Never surrender critical analysis just coz the other person sounds like he knows better.

[@geoffreymarshall2228]

I discovered Peterson during lockdown 2020, I've listened to several hours of him. One of the great thinkers of the last 30yrs.

[@Zaiqahal]

We'd get so much further into this world if we were all as articulate as him. Most of us aren't able to stay calm and think of the perfect things to say under pressure.

[@IamSome1]

@@anjalikndwl and I wouldn't take the words of a scummer either, so why would I believe you instead of him

[@oliverlock555]

The amount of people this man have saved from certain death, is something to notice. He's not only speaking, and clearing up things that are misunderstood. He's also saving lives.

[@daboys1215]

It's not all that difficult to destroy the feminist narrative. Just throw facts at them. JP does it quite well.

[@leroy30]

The difficulty lies in the way they express and often twist and manipulate the narrative. Usually when you counter an argument, the woman/opposing person will say "yeah but this, this and this, so therefore it's obvious" and all you end up doing is defending against their ever-morphing rationale which plays out as you are constantly on the defense which portrays you as being on the losing side. JP is very good at his rebuttal, but women are very very crafty. My ex wife used to do it to me all the time. To paraphrase, a typical argument would go along the lines of "you don't love me because you never do this", to which I would feel compelled to rebuttle with "well actually I do that all the time and here are my examples". That then morphs into "well you always do this other thing as well so clearly you don't love me" and so it continues on a neverending path of justification that is completely ignorant of any facts or truth whatsoever. And if I simply said "I do love you" then I'd get the rationale of something like "well you don't show it, you always do this" and on and on it goes, deeper into the rabbit hole. JP totally nails it in this one, but he's still fighting a losing cause. She'll never agree. Only his viewers and followers will ever agree.

[@henryhenry903]

Leroy30 the problem with your ex is self esteem and needing oh I love you so much and im glad you are not like her and her im just so glad you are awesome because I couldn’t live without you when in reality you were doing fine before you met and she was the one that has the inability to do anything about her own self esteem so it must be because you don’t love her lol I think I just got a bit dumber after trying to think like a woman lol

[@meylinhernandez461]

@@leroy30 you are the one that will forever lose by thinking theres no point, and by generalizing all women into this type of thinking. You are doing exactly what those toxic feminists do, generalize a whole gender based on the negative characteristics/actions/thoughts of the small amount of men they've encountered or heard of

[@matheuscruz2395]

i mean, he destroyed nothing

[@daboys1215]

@@matheuscruz2395 I know. Feminism is nothing.

[@scopelynx5170]

You know what I love about Jordan Peterson, he knows that these guys don’t listen and remain clouded with emotion, but he still does his job by sending his point across.

[@MrTchupam]

👌

[@j.c3821]

Fun fact 85% of women whole are raped is recorded while 98.9% of of men who are raped goes unrecorded. So if everything is taken of a 100 ratio. For every 100 women who are raped, 85 of them will be reported while nearly 99 of the 100 men who are raped will go unrecorded. So the ideology that women are raped much more than men is only because men don’t report it for a number of reasons. So who’s really oppressed in that sense?

[@Swannyjoe464]

I agree with Jordan 100% but mad respect to the interviewer for letting him talk and not interrupting him every 2 seconds

[@DrakeRing]

So you are saying that women don't deserve voting rights?

[@Swannyjoe464]

@@DrakeRing watch the video again then come back to me....

[@BATMAN-df5ee]

Watch the whole 2 hrs interview, it's just the Peterson's logic that doesn't let her speak

[@divya-b5y]

Yeah Oprah does that

[@robertybob4365]

Don't be fooled just because she was quiet . There is a "post interview" discussion where Peterson reviews the entire meeting, including the discussion they had prior to recording, which was not pleasant. Fact is, she was not expecting him to absolutely wipe the floor with her, and she was quiet only because Peterson gave her a good telling off. :-)

[@pilroberts6185]

‘Roving bands of tyrannical male plumbers...’ this is why we love JP!

[@kinghill4030]

Next time the power goes out after a storm, the sewer is blocked, the buildings have fallen, and the farmers fields need to be tended to, lets just sit on our hands and complain about men

[@blakef6207]

KingHill yes

[@henryhenry903]

KingHill lol we would starve and we know it

[@sb6498]

@P.O. M.E Men and women

[@sb6498]

@P.O. M.E Now I'm a big advocate for men but credits due where credits due its fairly equal both parents play an important role

[@sb6498]

@P.O. M.E 69 percent of family arrangements in the United states consists of children living with both parents, second in family arrangements is 23 percent single mothers which I think you'll find is hardly a majority statistic - source of this information is directly from the United States census bureau. Although joint parent families have decreased over the last 30 years it is still the most common family arrangement in Western society.

[@SageLoneWolf]

Quietest and yet Loudest "Mic Drop" in recent history...

[@meridacardenas745]

The rape thing, how abot women who rape women in prison.... 😢😢😢

[@elongatedmanforever1252]

Never talked about Because according To "certain folks" that's not Possible.

[@elongatedmanforever1252]

I've seen mother abuse their daughters & nobody talks about it, our society loves to act like it's not sexist it very much is & worse then anything in the past men are treated like villains & women are viewed as autonomless victims people will only take a woman's suffering seriously if she's wronged by a man & will ignore when women hurt other women & then act like no man whatsover suffers, this society is extremely inept & backwards.

[@MostCommentsAreFake-ud8by]

I would like to see him debate a top academic feminist. With both sides given equal time to talk.

[@asheeeeeeshnjm]

do you want to see him debate a zizek, acommunist? if you have 3 hours to spare, you can watch peterson get dominated by a slovenian dumpster raccoon: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oqS6n5ecr9qCmZY

[@erwina4738]

The feminist would still lose lol.

[@MostCommentsAreFake-ud8by]

@@erwina4738 - like you know.

[@maurizioarrivabene8182]

There are no top academic feminists. They have understood that our society is about competence, not sex, and therefor dont need handouts because of their genitalia

[@seth2308]

I would've liked to hear more from the woman

[@shuhaoliu5474]

Look up the whole interview on British GQ

[@guy5687]

If the woman talked more, it would have been utter nonsense. Check out the British interview if you want

[@george4821]

@@shuhaoliu5474 I think what the problem is is that he keeps interrupting her. Yes he has good shit to say but let her finnish

[@twinsoultarot473]

Men built everything. We should accept this.

[@noidontdrinkbathwater7491]

Yep and they are given birth by women ... No women no men, no men no women .

[@bullgravy6906]

“Almost no women rape men.” “Almost no one cares when women rape men.” Fixed it.

[@Sukunasenpai-p4n]

Wdym

[@elongatedmanforever1252]

​@@Sukunasenpai-p4n That people do not care about it happening to men & act like it doesn't exist.

[@thegreatest7609]

Always playing victim.

[@david-jb5jh]

Most police laugh at male rape victims and don't take the claim seiously and men are also ashamed to report the rape. So her argument was flaud.

[@elongatedmanforever1252]

People in this society don't care & they blame it on men & toxic masculinity.

[@anne1002]

“A roving band of tyrannical plumbers!” 😂😂😆🤣😂 Kudos to JORDAN PETERSON!

[@callumgray5150]

Who els isn’t smart enough to understand what he’s saying but jest accepted that he’s right lol??

[@williamdeasy4501]

As always , factual and unambiguous truth put into poetry, I actually think the young lady appreciates the education and awakening to the facts over all the fiction .

[@f4ttygames10]

I was banned from facebook for sharing this video. Ill share it everywhere that i can. Ill make bew facebook accs and post it.

[@NYTROOPA]

1:10 “But there are almost no women who rape men.” Really??? Have you ever seen what happens to men in divorce??? 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@elongatedmanforever1252]

Also teachers grooming students.

[@oldcaptainjack]

I read a book recently that more or less reinforces everything Peterson says here and more, with stats. It shocks me how capital F feminists look through their own lens and judge the world how they want to anyway despite stats.

[@merryweather1009]

That end statement was by far the most satisfying thing I’ve heard

[@nocturn9x]

The best part is when she goes "I don't. I really don't, please go on" *that's* how you debate, folks. She was genuinely interested in what he had to say and respected him by not interrupting him (as did he). This gives me hope in humanity

[@underlord3761]

You're not good at reading people. She was being smug and condescending

[@nocturn9x]

@@underlord3761 Not as much as the majority of JP's dialectical opponents

[@underlord3761]

@@nocturn9x true..

[@jannowicki7618]

I can’t agree with the reasoning here and it’s a bit strange for me that the interviewer didn’t catch Peterson on an obvious logical mistake he makes here. IT MATTERS in which groups men are a majority because if these groups happen to be the ones with the most influence on how our societies, countries, law, institutions, etc. work then they will shape them according to their own worldview. Individual politicians or CEOs of global corporations have more influence on the system than individual soldiers, miners, firefighters, etc. Therefore claiming Peterson completely destroyed anything here seems a little bit silly.

[@RimZeime]

At what cost are you going to force women into these positions when a large population of them chose not to do so.

[@adio8824]

Groups with the most influence? All men have the influence on how our societies, countries, laws and institutions work and function? Huh? Buddy that’s still a minority of men and Women that have said power. Those men and women a voted in by men and women of the general population. Peterson points still stands and you’re doing wut she did here. Taking from the top and generalizing it across all sectors. Try again.

[@Calcifer111]

Ok so you say these big bad men in charge are going to be sexist as their main priority, you really think that gender is more important than saving money??? Men are physically stronger, they statistically work more than woman, statistically take less time off than woman so the company will be able to get more out of him so the males an obvious choice…. It’s not about the sex it’s about the work ethic

[@NeverKnewThatHelps]

"they will shape them according to their own" Why do most of the men have it harder then? That was his argument.

[@elongatedmanforever1252]

​@@RimZeime Absolutely that's never talked about.

[@RealLifeMassMultiplayerRPG]

And Peterson is right . Again. As usual. And im not even sarcastic.

[@papi4482]

@Steven you are blinded by the feminist propaganda

[@miwoo6zz969]

jp should have a primetime show called listen and learn! a brave and highly intelligent man.

[@therealbrookkss]

whos watching in 2024

[@simonedangelosericola5742]

Logic vs nothing: Mr. Peterson RULES!!! 🔝🔝🔝😀😀😀

[@teambulbo]

Why?

[@simonedangelosericola5742]

@@teambulbo, because numbers and facts don't lie. And don't care about feelings (cit. Ben Shapiro) 😊...

[@ŠárkaNovotná-g4t]

I dont see any logic between pointing out that there are more men in prison and claim that there is no patriarchy. Men are in prison because they commited crime, that is totaly irrelevant for feminism, yet this hero of all bricklayers repeats it all the time :D

[@noidontdrinkbathwater7491]

Not everything can be entirely logical as is morality. If you always go with "utilitarianism" then you might be tough as hell to deal with any possible disadvantages that might get inflicted on you.

[@noidontdrinkbathwater7491]

"Nothing" that's why other refrained from listening to some men because they dont give consideration to the opinions of others. A good leader doesn't fully invalidate others' opinion regardless if that other is male or female.

[@GamingGoose]

Her argument starts out as 1 thing then 'i could say terrible things happen to both sexes' exactly his point and exactly why the male dominance argument is ridiculous

[@pebblepod30]

He should have asked her to respond to his points and consider if we have been sold a lie.

[@waleedahmed4532]

The fact that wealth and capital are not very different from each other, shows that she had nothing else to say, which already makes her argument very weak.

[@alliknow6475]

Exactly my thoughts, and she also verbalised it as if she’s going to give a big list of reason but instead she spoken the same thing twice

[@stefanoroca6855]

Most rape victims are also men when considering prisons…

[@Lisa-sg1of]

I didn't get your point. The rapists are the ones who go to jail if proven guilty and if appropriate action is taken against them. So what do you mean '"Most rape victims are also men when considering prisons"? If they are in jail it's because they raped not because they got raped unless someone misused their power to put them in jail for getting raped which is absurd and WRONG.

[@splinteridiot]

@@Lisa-sg1of That’s assuming he is talking about rapists. My guess is he is referring to the general population in prison where the strong prey on the weak. Prison rapes aren’t just exclusive towards punishing rapists, it can also happen to other prisoners.

[@albertbrannan4]

@@Lisa-sg1of his point is Jim’s prison name is Gina. And he’s open access, and now a b**** , to multiple men in jail. He does this or else he will be taken care of. This is common in prison regardless of the mans sentence.

[@justahumanbeing.709]

@@Lisa-sg1of he means men raping other men in prison.

[@elongatedmanforever1252]

​@@Lisa-sg1of That's just wrong because Many men get falsely accused.

[@Robert-nz3te]

Jordan I love you .as you stand firm for the love, respect and equality of all. There is no differentiation between men and women. We are all born equal. A man's duty and life is to respect, honour, protect and culture women. A man finds it hard to fulfill this role when women shows no respect for their virtues.

[@elongatedmanforever1252]

I disagree there is a absolute differentiation between the sexes.

[@elongatedmanforever1252]

i disagree there is a absolute differentiation between the sexes & we should celebrate it.

[@whynot9616]

I feel bad for him he has to sit through so many interviews with narcissistic pea brained people just going back and fourth with one side having scientific backing and the other “I watched an hour long Netflix special.” God I’d kill myself if I had to re explain myself to someone who won’t change.

[@laksh4real]

He distroyed her

[@kiwitube123]

No he didn’t destroy her. He destroyed himself. He interrupted her, he didn’t listen to her. He talked over her. His behaviour towards her proved the very thing that he unsuccessfully ‘argued’ against.

[@Ohsoheil]

@@kiwitube123 some one is crying 😢 😂😂

[@adityabhasin777]

This guy keep on improving my mental health! :)

[@noidontdrinkbathwater7491]

That's the result of feeling grounded. Happy for you bro. Accepting that not everything can be controlled is the the best feeling.

[@berk1930]

Sigma Peterson Grindset

[@350oven4]

“Woman do more unpaid labor” like what? Cleaning the house when we’re at work?

[@akanksharaturi3997]

Given you'd have to hire a servant to do that work if the women wouldnt be there, yes.

[@350oven4]

@@akanksharaturi3997 no id come home from work and clean up myself, if my (spouse) was not there. sounds like women just wanna be lazy, like get a job and most guys will have no problem helping around the house, to me it sounds like women want to be rewarded by there laziness by not helping out around the house. then expect us males to spend money on you women. delusion at its finest

[@indigenaz23]

Hay I clean I cook it’s not just women

[@zookathecuka4396]

BAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHHA

[@bjorn1900]

@@akanksharaturi3997 damn... you just got rekt lol

[@maudeex8727]

I could listen to this man 24/7 I absolutely love him! He is so eloquent and lest face it, correct in what he says I literally spend hours just listening to him, he has a beautiful mind. I wouldn’t however get into a discussion with him 🤣 she’s brave!

[@shalomkash8475]

imagine Jordan Peterson & Ben shapiro in one room 😂😂 facts & Logic Rumble

[@shalomkash8475]

Tbh

[@aaryanshroff]

Jordon was on the Ben Shapiro Show.

[@Elsonoliveira716]

@@aaryanshroff link please

[@asheeeeeeshnjm]

imagine being the poor cameraman who has to get them both in the same frame lmao

[@tomperkins4620]

These are inconvenient truths for the feminist narrative on the Tyrannical Patriarchy. seems on this subject, in a battle of wits she is fighting unarmed like so many suffering from misguided misandry.

[@victorlogan5038]

Live long and prosper good sir. And continue to preach the gospel of logic and reasoning.👌🏽

[@skullmax3595]

She went in as a feminist and went out as a mens right activist Jk feminist won't let anything through their ears unless it benefits them

[@motivationunlimitedfree6162]

Nowadays women get more rights Men are In minority Even in home , neighborhood or anywhere

[@SpoiledMilkOffical]

People always make stereotypes about men, it’s just not fair. People always say that men are more stupid, they smell bad, they commit more crimes, they have to be tough and they don’t cry or else they aren’t tough and not a real man. And girls always say that they are fragile and you shouldn’t hit a girl, they do better in school. We pay for ALL the bills, we give you ALL the money to buy food, we buy you ALL of you’re gifts we do EVERYTHING for you, so treat us like we’re human for once.

[@elongatedmanforever1252]

They always say that all men are secretly jealous & women & are just mad that they cannot get a girl?? Maybe some are like that, but it's not the only reason it's because of how poorly Men are being treated.

[@za7426]

Ha, brilliant response.

[@nixfb8576]

Men are also less likely to seek help in cases of sexual assault, so that could also have something to do with the lack of female perpetrators? and if they did come forward? genuinely how many people would believe a man can be raped by a female??? Sadly not many people. But sure, we females are so oppressed that we can report a crime and be believed, it's a hard life.

[@Sukunasenpai-p4n]

But between us a female can rape a male ?

[@fsherman9717]

*Sigma male grindset*

[@Alex-qr7yh]

I respect to the ends of the earth. Clearly a victim of our culture's fear mongering but, a very professional, emotionally balanced woman to say the least. Hard to find in anybody, let alone a feminist.

[@matheuscruz2395]

500 years ago women weren’t allowed to have any kind of property, inheritance, wealth. they all belonged to her husband and if they only had female children, their capital would go to their husband. of course now it’s not like that, women have accomplished so much but there’s still some points that women are oppressed specifically by men. all forms of “bad things” that happen to men said by JP comes from the economic system oppression (more men are homeless, more man die at their job, more men are in prison and etc)

[@confusedbadger6275]

How are women oppressed ? Name 1 right that men have got that women haven't ? You do realise men can be legally discriminated against purely because of their sex don't you?

[@elongatedmanforever1252]

​@@confusedbadger6275 Absolutely and I believe men were in the past, discrimination Doesn't only effect one group thats ridiculous.

[@dracoff2671]

he is so true , here in India women has all rights and opportunities,and men is blamed for everything

[@S.C08]

Damn true Even in schools and colleges males face inequality by the teachers, and they talk gender equality lol.

[@Sukunasenpai-p4n]

What I see in comments Indian men hate women and they are very misogynist

[@elongatedmanforever1252]

Men have been since Joseph's day.

[@rwplm]

Question, how do you like a video twice?

[@willemboele2079]

make a fake account

[@compytv8636]

Masterbate really fast

[@rwplm]

@@compytv8636 TF!? No!

[@keisaboru1155]

ELON MUSK IS against women and I say this because it sounds funny 🤣

[@oscarcastro5090]

I want to scream!!! I’m saving this and will listen to it forever

[@bafflingdocumentaries8496]

I have about 10 years working in IT, 4 different jobs, and in all of them I've had female bosses.

[@lipikax]

Its almost an year of watching and reading jordan peterson, and i see how my vocabulary has increased drastically.

[@yesno9738]

He is the master of vocabulary.

[@carterbembridge8103]

it’s really scary that in our western society people really believe that any one group of people is truly oppressed based off of their gender or race or any broadly shared characteristic for that matter, i’d say a great majority of the western population doesn’t truly understand how brutal and punishing a true power based patriarchy would be for men and women alike, we have it so good we need to nit pick tiny little bits of data in our society that may appear to be discriminatory toward anyone, just to create a problem that doesn’t even exist, so we have something to give our lives purpose, if this war ever goes full scale I can almost guarantee this so called “feminism” will die as fast as the men protecting our society

[@ninjamaster7724]

Shouldn't that speech end feminism?How can feminists argue with that and be taken seriously?

[@christineris9544]

if you wnat to end equality bro go on. feminism is equality just fucking get over it allready!

[@christineris9544]

@@dulinapeduru3500 equal opportunity is a myth right now, ofcourse the most qualified ones are the ones who should be in positions of power, but do you think these positions are occupied only (except for very few exceptions) by men, because these men are more qualified and smart than certain women? no, it’s because women do not have easy access to those places due to stereotypes that have long lived. patriarchy up until a century ago IS a fact, so it is only reasonable that some remnants are still here from those times

[@rich99global]

@@christineris9544 Baloney. Feminism today is absolutely NOT about equality. Please point to feminists campaigning for equality in divorce cases, child custody cases, number of graduates in Western universities. How many feminists campaign for women to occupy 50% of jobs in road-sweeping and sewage treatment plants? Your entire argument is based on a premise that is demonstrably false.

[@ŠárkaNovotná-g4t]

To be honest i dont understand what is he trying to say, so it is hard to argue with him. What the problem is that there are more men in prison. They commited crimes, so they are in prison, right? Should i feel sorry for them? Problem is when women want to get to leading roles and it must be for many reasons hard if they are minority in leading roles. And he must know it as a psychologist, but does not open it, only says some irrelevant things.

[@ninjamaster7724]

@@ŠárkaNovotná-g4t more men are in prison,yes because they commit crimes,but what he's referring to,if you're unaware is that a woman will get a more lenient sentence for commiting the same crime as a man and hence the reason why less women are in gaol.So should they give women the same gaol sentences as men for commiting the same crimes in the name of equality? Also,people should earn their way in life and achieve their positions based on merit,not because of a woke diversity quota policy. Men are in higher positions on average for a multitude of reasons,merit being a big one,choice of occupation being another.

[@ashishsharma2837]

Swiggy service is not available in my area So what's the benefit of watching it's advertisment ?

[@yesiamwinningdad5024]

What do you mean by posting this?

[@aniket19931993]

Isn’t any feminist going to say he is “mansplaining” her? Your blood got to be boiled by now.

[@cm-gw9yb]

i wish i could make an onlyfans and get free money for some pics of my feet... also free drinks and entry in every club.. lol.

[@andreazach9026]

Even men are affected by patriarchy

[@gigachad6742]

We can’t be affected by something that only exist in women’s minds

[@lorenalo6630]

@@gigachad6742 there are young girls sold as child brides.. Millions of women victims of prostitution and human trafficking in the porn industry, endless cases of men murdering their own mothers and daughters, raping them even. How is the patriarchy only in the mind of women?

[@poetsrear]

@@lorenalo6630 I think the word you are looking for is "malevolence", not "patriarchy"

[@Mr-Hakim]

Sadie Azra So blaming ALL Men for some illegal stuff is fine? How about the countless cases of fake rape accusations? Do we call that Feminism?

[@lorenalo6630]

@@Mr-Hakim here we go again with the "nOt aLl mEn" thing.. Majority of perpetrators are men, and all men benefit from the patriarchy. If some men claim they're a 'good guy', then what are you doing to help us?

[@ou8michael2]

Boom. One of the best answers I’ve seen recently on this nonsense called feminism. This is what happens when the left actually lets the right complete their sentences.

[@shaunakullden493]

'This nonsense called feminism' huh? Why don't you tell me exactly what you think feminism is.

[@suklasinha303]

@@shaunakullden493 men hating lesbian

[@Yash1729dhomdhara]

true...

[@Emilobruh]

Still have to give some credit for how polite the interviewer was, she didn’t scream, interrupt him, insult him, etc and she also accepts to hear his opinion

[@JasonsMove]

YES! Men dominate again! Ok who’s got hurt feelings? Probably not a man 😂

[@elongatedmanforever1252]

Yep, patriarchy always wins lol.

[@user-vy7bb2bq4p]

Debating against this guy on any subject will make me crap my pants. His language is extraordinary.

[@adammwalch]

This is the most concise, accurate and insightful articulation of all that is horribly wrong with modern feminism that I have ever heard

[@v.m.4603]

The fact that most men deffine feminism as an attack and interpret that word wrong is an empirical evidence that men feel attacked by women and as a deffence mechanism use degradation and twisting of the phenomenon. Who does not see the everdaylife of women being perceived as having less potentional for bussiness and as a result the once that do succeed are always looked with twice more success rate because 'it is such a miracle' (source of double stadards) is blind. Political equallity does not mean economic equallity, and just because there are more man dying in war doesnt even fit in the frame of the discussion, they die because womens job was perceived as being medicine instead and not for exampel snipperists, if they were treated equally woman would get the chance to go to war aswell (nowdays they are but the stereotype still exists preventing them to apply) and die the same rate as men. So he mistakes the preposition of someone applying somewhere because of social constructs, with a theory based on empirical facts that more man died in war, well duhh its because more men were participating in war , also most examples he pushed out were premade facts thrown out without explanation, "most people in prison are men" well because they commit more crime not because women are treated more nicely, and why do they commit more crime? Not because they are evil but becaue society teaches them that being a man means not being affraid of anything, the cool guy is the rough guy. What I am saying the sad discourse rulling over our society damages peoples perceptions of what they really like, who they are and what they have a potential for, puts them into boxes and they go where they do not belong. Discrimination is among both genders, but due to the history men were priviledged, because being stronger built (and they are), but with the raise of technology we overcame that difference and now there is no reason to discriminate based on that, but rather on the long rotting left pieces of history and the discourse its building.

[@tt9220]

Peterson Rockzzz......!!!!

[@simar1846]

Big words, Not letting other speak, Picking on small things of others speech and saying it wrong Having no emotional guilt That's How you win an argument

[@simar1846]

For your info by no means I say that it Is wrong btw

[@mogul188]

and have a fundamentally good argument to begin with ... you forgot that one

[@SwagMush]

"there are almost no women who rape men" and there are also almost no men who accuse women of rape accusations ruining their lives, chief

[@elongatedmanforever1252]

Women also lie about serious things as that, even in the past women are by no means innocent victims.

[@Idgafabouturopinion]

I’m just so fucking sick of this kind of gender debate

[@vp5816]

What Peterson said in the first part os literally the results of male dominated world or patriarchy… He’s just proving her point…?

[@janbradleyinobio4820]

Patriatchy in this discussion is about 'power' relationship between gender.. you wouldnt consider it power or orpressing if most men have those statistics. Read the definition

[@Randomness65535]

In that case I really wonder what you would consider to be the ideal non-patriarchal society.

[@SKATEINFORMANT]

The interviewer, HELEN LEWIS Cheated on her husband and divorced him. If you don't understand the WILD irony in this, that just means you haven't watched the full interview. Jordan knows people and he knows them very well.

[@jxnasp3920]

I do really agree with what Jordan said, but i have to say that the "male dominance" isn't about the majority of women and mens well being and the average man and womans struggles, but rather in my opinion, even though its sounds counter intuitive, actually look at the top 0.01% procent of the world. What i mean by that is that the absolutely richest and most powerfull people in the world, have a lot of control and grip over the western world. In that sense, the argument can be made, that since the majority, if not all, of these few billionaires that have a enourmous amount of power are men, it can therefore be seen as though the society is "male dominanted". But, again, i do agree that the average man, does not have more power or dominance than women.

[@TheJohnCooperShow]

but as JBP says, thats not representative of the entire gender. its called apex fallacy - where you take the high performers and use that to erroneously judge the entire group

[@TheKbsj]

Let's fact-check Peterson's arguments and try to interpret his opinions. 1. He begins by retorting that the unequal distribution of wealth is only prevalent in the top 1 percent. He is right; the gap is drastic in the top one percent but it is also significant for the rest of the percentile. In general, men own 68-72 percent of the wealth when they comprise half of the population. Even this number is a substantial improvement. It was worse a few decades ago. In this the interviewer was correct but was completely "dominated " by Peterson. www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2018/03/08/womens-wealth-is-rising 2. He carries on in his eloquent style arguing that men suffer equally if not more. He claims that most of the people in prisons are men. According to his argument that if there are more men in prison then they can't be the dominating one. I don't the see the connection. Is he trying to insinuate if it was a male dominant society then more women would be in prison? He further states that most of the people on streets are men and most number of victims of violent crimes are men. The interviewer should have asked that why is that there are more men everywhere? I mean why aren't women going out ? In my opinion, traditionally, women have been discouraged from getting out of the house especially at night. Although the numbers have improved but it is far less than men. Therefore if lesser number of women are outside their houses then of course they have lesser chances of being victims of violent crimes. However, the interviewer should have brought up the issue of domestic violence whose victims are entirely women. His point that most number of people on streets are men is convincing but later on in the video he claims that if men are dominating, it is because of competence. If they are more competent then why are they out on the streets in large numbers and do so poorly in schools. Poverty is a complex phenomenon that cannot be divided solely based on gender. His point that men commit suicide at higher rate than women is both true and false. More men do die of suicide but more women try to commit suicide. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8205283 He points out that more men die in wars. I guess if do not allow women to participate in war then how can they die in them? 3. He dismisses the interviewer's point that rape victims are predominantly women as being inappropriate for her argument; which is that it is male dominated society. I don't see how that point was inappropriate. He just says that asymmetries are present everywhere hence her point is invalid. 4. Then he claims that the "western society" has a patriarchal circle to some degree but that is not based on power rather it is based on competence. He further states that it is because of this competence that our society functions. I don't know how one measures competence but if we see education as a barometer of competence then women graduate college at higher percentage than men. www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2017/11/gender-education-gap/546677/ 5. He is absolutely correct when he states that the western society is the least tyrannical society. I agree with him that women elsewhere suffer far far more than women in the west. 6. He concludes by warning that the "patriarchy thing" is pernicious and dangerous. He claims that men and women throughout history have united against the greatest catastrophes from a high death rate to extreme starvation. He argues that it would be detrimental if we just teach history as men dominating women. I would argue that interpreting history through feminism is one of the perspectives and not the only one. It gives us a more complete picture of our past. I think there is enough evidence from our past to prove that we have had a patriarchal for centuries. From voting rights to birth control, the list is enormous. I will conclude by stating that Jordan Peterson is a brilliant orator. He seems to be the messiah that people who are fed up the feminist movement were searching for. Two sides have been created and both of them are just looking for opportunities to embarrass the other side. The tittle of the videos and the comments are examples. The facts have become subjective and the truth is getting lost amid the chaos.

[@sumeghavaid9937]

A much needed analysis of Mr. Peterson's bombastic but hollow oration.

[@justme00909]

If his argument was as strong as you would like it to be, please also show the counter argument. These two (seeming both intelligent) people were having a respectful dialog/discussion. I’m a feminist but was very much open to watch this video and listen to what he had to say. Thats how I try to learn. Just listening to what we want to hear, only reinforces our own point of view, keeping us narrow minded.

[@leeme7513]

Agreed. Let s not get stuck in an echo chamber. I watched the whole interview, it s on KZbin you can watch it too, and trust me (or not, you can watch it by yourself) Jordan completely won the argument. It was like in this small clip throughout the whole interview. Sorry for my English, it is not my first language.

[@aryanking8185]

agreed

[@21LeonidasZ]

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[@whitestone4805]

Thank you so much for such a sane response. Something that came across as clear was that the interviewer was (in essence) reading from an idealogical script that was exposed as weak in the face of factual reasoning. Using the example of male on female rape (a truly wicked and abhorrent act ) was a perfect example of this and was (to use an analogy) clutching at straws to save the haystack of her general argument falling down. The intelligence of your own observation demonstrates the awareness that we live in a desperately unhealthy and confused time where slogans hostile rhetoric are casually thrown around in preference to open listening and thoughtful consideration of opposite view points. Disagreement with the prevailing ideology’s has been labelled as hate speech and forbidden. One doesn’t have to go back far in history to see that adopting this social framework is a precursor to disaster. Again. I found your reasoned response a breath of fresh air. Thank you.

[@governmentandmediadivideth8889]

Nah she basically said no women rape men which is bs, the double standard agenda people like her push is a huge problem within society.

[@dog61297]

i almost agree with peter but there are some perspectives which i would like to differ .. like he said that men are suffering.. it is true.. but here the statement, which is being made is too absolute.. and one dimensional... on the relative context.. if an unsuccessful man heading towards his house with his day, being the worst one, he would likely subjected to be more merciless, antipathic and cruel towards his better-half or children... and that is the structure of society, where a person suffering in life, transfers his/ her frustation to the family