Jordan Peterson: How Psychopaths are created/triggered

[@carolmartin8781]

The guy ends up shaking hands with the bully because he has earned respect and perhaps even fear by not being a coward.

[@kalow10]

Scary thing is - I saw this in a LOT of the Afghan children when deployed in Afghanistan.

[@dukecity7688]

What year(s) were you deployed there? I ask because when I read your comment I thought - future Taliban members.

[@constancedenchy9801]

😢

[@constancedenchy9801]

I know men who saw similar in Iraq

[@kalow10]

@@dukecity7688 2010

[@anotherfreediver3639]

Interesting - thanks for the insight.

[@johnbarrett4846]

Adopted at birth. Seven years with a Mother who physically and mentally abused me. Five and half years in a childrens home. Sexually abused, bullied. Fought, stole, set fires. Adopted again age twelve. Stole, lied, drank from age thirteen. Did badly at school. Apart from English, Art and football. Alcoholism, failed relationships, failed jobs, failed suicide attempts. Still struggle to this day. And to be honest i'm not even telling the whole picture. Am i a monster? No. I care, i have feelings''...but no empathy for my fellow humans.

[@victorygarden556]

As long as you’re not doing wanton messy sadism I’m sure you still have a place.

[@jeremystone36]

You’re lying

[@mars-bs5uf]

so you care about what?

[@LocPham-kw5ut]

Well you SHOULD be a monster. Bulk up, learn to fight, vocally and physically. Nobody should mess with you and treat you this way. Care about your own safety and dignity first. Get your sh*t together and become dangerous.

[@patp3800]

No care for your fellow humans means you don't care not that you do...

[@miahconnell23]

I briefly taught (managed) Kindergarten & almost 1st-grade kids in a high-quality afterschool program (run by the area’s public school, at the public elementary school). Good neighborhood milieu, good school milieu, and a great batch of 12 kids. The other batches of young kids were cool too, and the staff ratio was like 3A:12K. And the adults would help whomever based on situational need. All in all, very positive. *But* for ONE kid: zero care, concern, or empathy for other kids or adults. Hitting kids would make him smile and laugh. Time outs or undesirable consequences: he’d make it his full time job-a fun job-to escape and flout those. And if he couldn’t do whatever: a teacher holding his hand or a toy getting locked out of reach; THEN he’d cry. Not at ALL regret-related, though: these were tears of frustration: “But I WANT to break Raphael’s Ben-10 toy and backpack.” Being prevented from that made him furious. The boy literally felt joy from hurting others. Because there was no care for others at such an early age, I theorized he’d stay that way. (I dunno what became of him: I went on to teach high school and college.) I don’t 100% know what the mom felt or thought. She did think HER kid was was more special and valuable than other people’s kids. She thought special accommodations needed to be made. Special accommodations DO get made in students’ Individual Educational Profile/Programs, that’s true… but in a class of 12 where eleven would treat eachother well, she seemed to think he ought to be allowed to hurt kids & take daily plans off the rails, and… she complained about me. She didn’t like me telling her: “I’ve worked with teens in special schools. Your son reminds me of -no, no, I shall walk that back: your son’s BEHAVIORS remind me almost exactly of the older boys who are quasi-incarcerated.”

[@kathybrem880]

I’ve indeed known one little boy like that. We lived next door. He was a few months older than my son. If you prevented him from hurting other kids, he’d rage. He threw my three year old down the concrete steps and gave him a concussion . He’d beat his baby sister if he got the chance. I wonder how his life went-he’d be fifty years old now

[@miahconnell23]

@@kathybrem880 I wonder how common it is 🤔…

[@Billtwiggmeister]

I’ve got sociopathic tendencies, it’s definitely environmental.

[@Z3r0_d4yz]

His story reminds me of when I was walking through some park two years ago. I was 27 back then but these kids whom I estimated around 5 or 6 years came up to me out of nowhere and they actually started hitting me with a stick. And they were saying to me: You belong in jail. Where I replied you can’t hit people with a stick it’s very bad to do so; stop it right now. It was quite disturbing to me.

[@ilsedemolder3973]

What did you do or say to make them stop? Or did you run away from them?

[@Z3r0_d4yz]

@@ilsedemolder3973 I responded on a demanding and somewhat intimidating tone. It came also a bit out of nowhere their “attack” on me. I was like: What is this?

[@ilsedemolder3973]

@@Z3r0_d4yz Maybe they were possessed by demons.

[@clarekuehn4372]

Where is the full lecture? Can you please add the link to the description below the video?

[@GraceCanadaful]

On Peterson's KZbin...

[@clarekuehn4372]

And which one: What title? Or link? (Bibliographic reference, please.)

[@romerider1000]

@@clarekuehn4372 damn do your own research

[@LadyCaroline123]

Casinos are worse than amusement parks.

[@Portia620]

Agreed!

[@Rogueface26]

Not really casinos are pretty clear about what your getting unto and the addictive nature of gambling. Amusement parks try to hide it and go after kids. So there that is.😮🎉😢😢😢😂😅😮😅

[@minniemin1324]

obviously

[@martinos877]

everywhere in the world what is considerdd"west"they have that, in the other parts the have war, so we have a spirit warfare over here

[@Countcho]

No, just spend on a set budget. You cant walk away a millionaire at an amusement park ❤

[@BradleyCoopertest]

Je voulais, means I want. So maybe he just wanted to try it out. Je vole, means I steal.

[@ottam]

How about "Je volerai"? I will steal it.

[@Godiztruth]

French native speaker from Quebec here, that's what I thought too! He probably said " je le voulais " I wanted it!

[@eleanorwalmsley635]

In fairness, he did say his French isn't good

[@colinsanders3667]

Well .... he didn't really explain how the psychopath/sociopath is formed...

[@annikkianttila]

Exactly what i thought.

[@Ley-d6h]

@@annikkianttilaHe did, “the child didn’t get socialized. No one plays with a kid when the kid is at a very playful age. Raised in a family where people were lying to you and you couldn’t find anything that’s admirable about them. So neglect and abused. “ - However for psychopathy, in order for this to happen- the effects of the environment - there needs to be a genetic predisposition or brain trauma that affect primarily the brain regions which are responsible for negative emotions. What he explained in terms of the environment, doesn’t cause psychopathy, (it might cause sociopathy though) but the idea is that if you are already genetically a “psychopath”, the way you are raised can turn you into vicious psychopath who destroys everything in their path, or into a well socialized and socially appropriate human who is a psychopath, who dies t feel empathy but understands that they shouldn’t harm humans for their benefit, although they could .

[@robertjones2811]

I love this comment section. You’re all so intelligent.❤

[@CrhistianMolina-cp4hm]

I believe psychopathy or sociopathy, is in all of us, just like the flu, in some, it develops quickly, early, or comes and goes, in some others, maybe does slowly and stay longer, in others... Is always there, like a flu, plus a neurological condition. And im talking about putting in someone else's shoes, empathy. Experiences, may be the fuel that acelerate or canalice it, Some times has no effect. Its a very complicated subject, but I'm sure everyone can develop it, and Consciousness and Intelligence are the other ingredients that makes us "normal", héroes or monsters, or just no bodies. Some feel that are very empathic, but that doesn't mean they dont have it.

[@Snibble]

I agree, when I was a kid, a friend and me would go out and pick fights with random kids just for fun. Took me a while to grow out of that behavior but I did. Once I bullied an older kid and he started crying and I felt so bad and another kid, also older suddenly grew big and whooped me. So I learned a lesson. You can also say you don't know evil until you kind of been there. It's not always the bullies that grow up being immoral sometimes it's the quiet ones that become ruthless when they become adults because they never practiced it as a kid.

[@WilliamPayneNZ]

I have seen this. Used to have a neighbour family years ago. By all appearances the parents were fantastic. But the young son who was very young was a monster, hurt animals, destroyed things. Really not good. The other son was younger and would do anything the older son wanted him to. They moved away and I never heard from them again except news that the father eventually had died suddenly. I always felt that that son was going to one day be in the news for all the wrong reasons.

[@JackPullen-Paradox]

Do you think psychopathology is more prevalent among the poor? It may seem that way, but is it true?

[@elainemarsh2656]

Nothing changes really, we have known or do know the type, even when we encounter them at an early age. Many of us (females too) get bullied at school because we stand out as different in some way to the bully, we don't ' follow' them or their ways, so the bully gets ' bothered' that they might lose authority with their own kind.. It happens in front of your eyes, wherever you look or listen in 2024 we still cower to the bullies of whatever standing they have, it is part of human/animal nature and behaviour. If the bully is successful it then becomes the mindset. Bullies develop through lack of nurture. The difference between Psychopaths (we all have the capability to be one ) and Sociopaths is also lack of nurture and development. In the former, it takes a more severe route, it's easy to say .....no conscience but is that also a result of very early exposure to lack of nurture.🙏

[@hariseldon3786]

JP (initially) leaves clowns to one side during his talk... because he's secretly scared of clowns!!! Clown are his kryptonite!

[@skatingfae92]

hate begets hate. war begets war. and i know you're gonna ask, "what is it good for?"

[@MrMexikin]

psychopaths have no empathy. I have too much empathy. I did have a empathic supernova though

[@Connor-vx7mk]

You can never have too much empathy

[@astrolord4325]

I've heard many with narcisistic personality disorder claim to have too much empathy, being people who can do no wrong etc. That's usually their deal, being special and perfect, even though they are human, therefore being perfect is impossible. And let me tell you, they mostly feel only empathy towards themselves and not towards others. If they are criticized in any form or manner, then suddenly they act like the devil incarnate claiming the others person is. I hope that's not the case here haha!

[@luckersteef7985]

@@Connor-vx7mk yes you can???

[@Connor-vx7mk]

@@luckersteef7985 how??

[@Connor-vx7mk]

I mean psychopaths show no empathy to anyone else so why should you show them empathy

[@brentsrx7]

Some of my best memories are at amusement parks with friends. Am I being fleeced? Yes. Was it worth it? I would go back in a heartbeat.

[@TrishHermit]

Saw a 6 year old once come to visit her grandma, my mother in law. She began scratching her furniture around the house. With her nails and a toy. My mother in law asked her to stop... And the kid looked at her, scowled and scratched harder. I almost fainted. It wasn't my place, and no one did anything about it! I am sure that little girl is not fun to be around right now.

[@vaughnkavon3993]

😂 ha ha . . . an easily observed one there. . .😅

[@Harry-q2q6y]

So the bullies were never banned from any of these bars. They were welcomed back by the management (I presume) to continue to scare away paying customers. 🤔🤨

[@markwootton3969]

The simple answer is no one knows.

[@SkodaUFOInternational]

search conduct disorder or antisocial personality disorder in pubmed lol

[@SteviePaints]

One of the common characteristics of serial killers is that they never bonded with their mothers as babies. This may be true of all psychopaths.

[@sedg03]

They all have low bld presure.

[@Portia620]

People with nothing better to do or being fleeced and not the truth

[@marktorch9079]

So what does that say about Michael Jackson who built an amusement park out of his home. Really lends to the Amusement parks under a horror context, or at least a strange uncomfortable feeling. Sorry didn't mean to change the subject I just got reminded when you mentioned amusement parks and clowns.

[@attheranch4876]

What about the rest of the story?

[@baedeckerbaedecker9664]

But amusement parks don't move around.... those are carnivals. Amusement parks stay in one place. Would love to see Peterson debate someone like Guillermo del Toro instead of the usual people he debates.

[@Flickit100]

This is where JP is the expert, and it sounds like it. He should avoid other areas.

[@Education-z2s]

I agree. There are plenty of clips that are spot on, until he veers into religion, and gets personal.

[@jean-marclamothe8859]

Don’t agree but open to discussion.😊

[@rebeccanatal1435]

There is a possible explanation if you believe in reincarnation. Because if all we are are souls in the development process, well, some of us are further along in that journey than others. And if you're a dark self-centered soul, and you come back, well, you're still going to be a dark self-centered soul. That explains why some people are subjected to horrific abuse and may become traumatized, but would never inflict damage on others no matter what happens to them, while others without any significant abuse background become children and adults that act in a hurtful manner towards others. That's who they are. They were born that way. They are undeveloped souls that do not learn from their experiences. Unless we start addressing the spirit as equally as the body, we're not getting anywhere with this issue. The best we can do is learn how they operate so we can stop it and walk, no, run away.

[@nathandehoyos8796]

Jordan Peterson can make instructions on how to tie your shoe interesting

[@zzc8505]

Not really, he’ll read those instruction to someone and that person will never understand how to tie shoelaces and how simple thing shoelaces is.

[@Gordpatmac]

a gang of 3-4 year olds? they were definitely not that young, Pete.

[@undercoverreseller205]

Telling his origin story, nice

[@Rt_Ryan91]

Maybe the kid was really sussed and he knew he was being analyzed by Jordan Peterson, ''We we, i have watch your videouxs''

[@AmnaNz39]

So how does someone become a psychopath again.

[@duwomaiishgabrielle9498]

The hypothetical genius

[@zzc8505]

He hasn’t shared a single original insight on human psychology. If you read more yourself, you’ll be less impressed by ppl who simply share what they’ve read

[@duwomaiishgabrielle9498]

@@zzc8505 wtfc’s , you sound like a real genius yourself, you misinterpret my statement, it was a joke that flew over your head!

[@duwomaiishgabrielle9498]

@@zzc8505 is this a habit of yours? Misinterpreting and insulting people! What a pompous ass

[@zzc8505]

@@duwomaiishgabrielle9498 like I said, start reading good books, then your mind may improve and you may actually learn how to argue better instead of posting profoundly lame failed "personal attacks" : when one's little mind is pretty empty, any talking head will appear a "hypothetical genius." Gawd ...

[@duwomaiishgabrielle9498]

@@zzc8505 you are not very bright, that was the joke! Like I said, you misinterpreted my statement and your arrogance shows who you are!

[@NoName-uz5ry]

Film, "Goodfellas", TOMMY=PSYCHOPATH.! JIMMY=SOCIOPATH.! 🙏

[@yowzayipee7110]

I wanted to hear the end ????

[@devilsoffspring5519]

It's Jordan Peterson. There is no end

[@genieyess1720]

“He voulais” means “I wanted…”

[@johnroberts3723]

A simple answer would be a lovely thing!.

[@FromAcrossTheDesert]

He is talking about a sociopath... NOT a psychopath. What is the difference? A sociopath learns how to not care... and a psychopath is born without a conscience.

[@islambale747]

Psychopaths are born without care.

[@Medietos]

@@islambale747 : Do they really have to be though? I know one who can care, although it is maybe only when he is interested, when it all goes in his direction, and only towards ppl he likes. But- is that not what most other normies do too?

[@idiotidiot5821]

I always thought a psychopath lacked inhibition (you could easily call it a conscience but some people have inhibition without thought) and a sociopath manipulated others inhibitions. So you can be both. I always thought toxoplasmosis only reinforced that too

[@judementz-gibbons6730]

Wrong. The psychopath chooses to kill their conscience.

[@FromAcrossTheDesert]

@@judementz-gibbons6730 No, that is the sociopath. Is there volition involved? -yes, but a lot of sociopaths have brutal childhoods of abuse/neglect. It is the psychopath which is born without any conscience. The psychopath learns how to fake their concern for others. Not all psychopaths go on to commit heinous crimes. Some, with early help, chose to live good lives. It is the outliers which make the news.

[@Fumetsu_no]

I’m one, been arrested handful of times, but I found god or something lol - so I’m doing better. This video is interesting.

[@lexevo]

Anyways? Come on Peterson, you speak better than that.

[@dansmith8174]

🤔.. these kids were 3 or 4 yrs old?.. kids that are rough and tough at 2 yrs old?..🤔..

[@supramby]

Now I need to hear the end of the story about the friend. Thanks for nothing

[@stevecadman137]

Half the video. Thanks for nothing

[@ottam]

That should be "thanks for half".

[@rain7659]

Be grateful you got anything

[@Snibble]

It would be nice if JP came back to his trade and left all politics and worship on the side.

[@dave_goldcrest]

Ah, I miss the the old Jordan Peterson when he spoke clearly about things he actually knew.

[@minniemin1324]

like you know better

[@sofarsohi]

the thing he actually knew comes from the things he speaks now.. maps of meaning preceded 12 rules for life, but he knew the subIQ population would not be thrilled with having to decode anything that equates to symbolism, history or religion and more

[@dawnhauxwell1691]

He grows!

[@markaubuchon2227]

This is the “old” Peterson. Pay attention!

[@tonyausten2168]

No. The professor forgets Kids form their personality by age 5. 4 really but mostly 5. That personality will last until he dies. The question is- what happens in his life by the grace of God.

[@georgiakritikos4955]

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[@heatherheimbigner5855]

Pinocchio

[@robertjasoncanha]

Jesus Christ get the fuq on with point and story !

[@KrisHubbard-w5x]

What a 💩 story Jordan 😢

[@cristianm7097]

The title of the video already triggers me.

[@Scorned405]

Jordan Peterson hardly ever gets to the point. He always goes off on some whacked out stream of consciousness or strange diatribe and rarely stays on point

[@Repackrider84]

This is a Trump documentary.

[@Unexpectedperspectivesnow]

Hahaha. Come on! Jordan claiming amusement parks are places of evil 😅😅😅 FFS.

[@halltrain1162]

He should know.

[@barcodekilla1138]

Blablablabla everything started from Adam and Eve

[@TotalitarianDemocrat]

Adam and Steve

[@barcodekilla1138]

@@TotalitarianDemocrat I believe Eve would identify as Steve in 2024

[@AwakenedOne-qu]

And Eve gave into to snake, now look where we are

[@ponglerman]

At this point I genuinely can't tell the difference between 20-joke-removed postmodern zoomer irony and actual mental retardation. I'm not sure which is worse

[@darcyburns7782]

So we all invest babies