Jordan Peterson shows Bill Maher why Justin Trudeau is BAD

[@gobabawonan2199]

I'm Canadian and the freezing of protester bank accounts was the single most shocking political act I have ever personally witnessed in this country -- if Russia or China did the same thing, people would be screaming, yet many Canadians saw nothing wrong with it

[@Brucemcleod2345]

North Korea, Russia, China and now Canada can lock people out of their bank accounts. Can’t believe Canada is so communist

[@py_a_thon]

Blackface Trudeau is just funny compared to that.

[@kellydyson3310]

Correction, many liberals found nothing wrong with that

[@Kman31ca]

Yup, it was. So many ppl I know who were apolitical before that, were flipping livid. Even my 70 yo mother who never gets political was livid.

[@alanaldpal950]

That’s because many Canadians are fully indoctrinated with socialism and communism (which socialism invariably leads to)

[@victorm5220]

Its even worse than that, many Canadians supported Trudeau in his efforts to vilify and suppress the protest.

[@Divine1Right]

Most did.

[@snaphaan5049]

The people in Canada and the Auzzies deserve everything coming to them.

[@botno69420]

@@Divine1Right I have no proof, but I think "the most" did not. The most did not do anything but say silent or parrot what was the "officially approved opinion". That's not support, that's demoralization and the loss of individualism and individualistic freedom. It might seem like there's no difference, but I think there's a huge difference. What Trudeau and his kind represent, is radicalism backed by fringe radicals in order to control the narrative, thus control the silent gray masses. Thinking it's "the most" will only demoralize you and people whose opinions differ from the "narrative", while failing to take into account that most people are, in the end of the day, quite sane and "normal" (for the lack of a better word). One might feel they're in the minority, but that's only because the influence of the few has captured most of all everything in the culture front. While it's not good, it also doesn't represent the average views of the average citizen, even though that's what it's trying to tell to us.

[@pickledpeppers1577]

Most people only want a fair master, only a few seek liberty. Sallust Ancient Roman historian.

[@Brucemcleod2345]

Wow - North Korea, Russia, China and now Canada can lock people out of their bank accounts. Can’t believe Canada is so communist

[@bcoz6630]

Being Canadian myself, what I found mind-blowing/shocking was the baffling number of fellow Canadians who cheered it on. Cheered on ppl loosing their jobs, cheered on the government freezing bank accounts, cheered on the social segregation of sporting events, concerts, restaurants, etc etc. But what's even more mind-blowing than that is these same people cheering on government overreach, were the same ones calling people fascists. The irony is lost on these buffoons.

[@jasonwebb41]

So basically the same ridiculous issues as the US

[@ThatGuy-tx4vm]

There is only one ending to these troubles... Eventually those "voters" will have to be removed. They are choosing to hurt others of their own free will. Wether it's because they're stupid or evil is irrelevant. They have hurt others and what comes around goes around.

[@calaiscowieson6953]

Probably worse.@@jasonwebb41

[@greyeyes172]

WE WERE DEALING WITH A KILLING PANDEMIC THAT WAS OVERWHELMING THE MEDICAL SYSTEM.. YOUR CONTRIBUTION TO DEALING WITH IT?

[@saucyrossy3698]

Right.....have you never interacted with liberals? Common sense/justice/fairness/rational thought/etc are not currencies of their realm. The result is precisely what you describe. I'm surprised youre surprised.

[@brandonflorida1092]

He froze people's bank accounts and credit cards by command without going to court.

[@BoomerKingsley]

All that needs to be said

[@brandonflorida1092]

@@BoomerKingsley Canada is now a police state, far worse even than the US has become.

[@anniehopkins8470]

The only "shocking" part is that people are shocked that our modern governments can & will do this shit as they see fit.

[@sommmeguy]

Except for he didn't. Headline from CTV: "Trudeau met threshold to invoke Emergencies Act, commission finds." So, 1. He acted within the law, and 2. The investigation they did afterwards found - well READ the headline. Or maybe a newspaper every once in a while instead of making sh#t up on the internet.

[@susanleatherbarrow2495]

Are Canadians stupid? Why re- elect? Was it fixed?

[@deonbrunette9767]

The real scary bit was Canadians re-electing Trudeau and not realising who he was after a whole term in office.

[@bobsmith8124]

Dominion voting

[@JesusLovesTheLittlePiggies]

Who believes in election results anymore?

[@pauld4138]

Oh, we knew alright. What essentially happened was he formed a coalition government with the support of the NDP, and then forced an early election to solidify his seat until the next official election. It was shady, underhanded, and Canadians, I promise you, are not blind to his bull$hit.

[@rodneybray5827]

But did he really win? I used to think above board about most everything. Not so sure after I saw what happened in 2020 with Trump. Add in the absolute lockdown of any discussion about election fraud and you KNOW there's cheating. Hell, look how they've gone criminal indictment against Trump for questioning the election. Guaranteed there's cheating. If there's cheating in the US, then you know it's possible in Canada, at minimum. I'd say more than likely it has happened.

[@coreyaruecker]

I have a hard time believing that Canadians actually elected him again. Most people I know are either NDP (left) or Conservative voters. I think we’re headed for global authoritarianism.

[@ianbenjiman]

"People always think, well there's no way I could ever be like a soldier in Nazi Germany. It's like, yeah... you could be convinced in about 15 minutes." - Jordan Peterson This is what the Freedom Convoy protest in Canada revealed to everybody.

[@SS0895]

Truly the most revealing aspect of COVID was not the government’s appalling behaviour, but the genuine sentiments of fellow Canadians during stressful times. Lots of people showed their true colours when things got weird. I’ll never forget that

[@tommccormick9290]

Earlier I wouldn't have thought it possible but Trudeau has turned out to be an even bigger joke than Joe Biden. How was he ever voted in?

[@kellyt5341]

@@tommccormick9290 None of them are voted in, they are all placed. If votes even counted you chose between the two candidates that you had no voice or choice of them being in there. The top elites win with either candidate you supposedly put in office.

[@LoneWolf-rc4go]

@@tommccormick9290 Because people are tribal, don't want to admit that they're wrong and only consume media that aligns with their personal beliefs. I've had plenty of discussions with people where they seem to have no concept that everything that is done to other people can easily be turned around and used against you. I find it deeply disturbing that this type of stuff has crept into society. We're constantly told to watch out for the 'far right' and how they are a danger to society yet it's all these big businesses, government agencies and supposedly 'Liberal' politicians who are engaged in this type of outright suppression.

[@WhopyStompy]

@@LoneWolf-rc4go this has been the only shit I've seen since I've became politically aware when I was in high school. Graduated in 2005. Not saying "I told you so" cause at the time, I couldn't even string together coherent sentences to get a valid point across, or entice people to look into things that they should. Lost a lot of friends in the process of my search for the truth. People don't like being told something that goes against their core value system or world view. "Tribal" doesn't really even encompass the problem with hive minded individuals.

[@rdg71-o9t]

Of all the interviews I've seen with Mr Peterson. I've never seen him get so angry as when He speaks about Trudeau. He summed him up by calling him a 'Weasel'

[@Great_Sandwich]

Yep. I _looooovvve_ listening to him talk about Trudeau. It's like music.

[@Brucemcleod2345]

North Korea, Russia, China and now Canada can lock people out of their bank accounts. Can’t believe Canada is so communist

[@Kman31ca]

He's an Albertan. And Trudeau is flipping beyond hated in Alberta.

[@Brucemcleod2345]

@@Kman31ca So is Trudeau a communist dictator?

[@remingtonsteel585]

@@Kman31ca He should be universally despised by ALL Canadians for invoking the War Powers Act against...protestors.

[@kevinwhelan9607]

The Canadian government's remarks about protests are straight out of 'Nineteen Eighty-four'. Keep up the good work, Bill and Jordan!

[@joannewilson6577]

Ontario premier says Ottawa 'under siege,' declares state of emergency. Premier Doug Ford is declaring a state of emergency in Ontario, which he says will give authorities more tools to help stop the "illegal occupation of Ottawa." "I call it a siege because that is what it is. It's an illegal occupation." Ford said he's instituting stiffer penalties to protect infrastructure ranging from international border crossings and 400-series highways to municipal and provincial roadways and pedestrian walkways. Non-compliance will now be punishable by fines of up to $100,000 and up to a year in jail, Ford said. Ottawa Mayor Jim Watson pleaded with the Ontario government for help to deal with the ‘lawlessness’ caused by the protest convoy, but grew frustrated with the lack of response. Ottawa Mayor Jim Watson says the city did not have the police resources it needed to handle last winter's anti-COVID-19 restriction protests - and it wanted swifter help from other levels of government. "We needed help," he told the commission Tuesday. "We lost control in the red zone." Watson,said he began pressing the federal government for more police resources after the first weekend of the Freedom Convoy protest. Peter Sloly, the chief of Ottawa police at the time, was looking for an additional 1,800 bodies to help police the crowds: 1,000 regular officers, 600 public order officers, 100 investigative officers, 100 civilian.

[@TheBrendon67]

@@joannewilson6577 This is a very good source. Ford is an opportunist. Anything to further his interests seems to be on the table, including involving himself in an act from the government that went against the Canadian charter of rights and freedoms. They’re all in this together.

[@joannewilson6577]

@@TheBrendon67 An an illegal siege for three weeks is in the Canadian charter of rights and freedoms. That must be why 2/3 of the Canadian were for Trudeau and the mayor of Ottawa and Ford. It's called common sense! If the chief of Ottawa police had some common sense he wouldn't have allowed one big truck to block the road.

[@davidshackleton9786]

I read the bank's apology letter. They didn't apologize for freezing the accounts, they were "sorry for the inconvenience it caused." In other words, no actual regret for what they did.

[@TheZygoat]

Sorry for the inconvenience it caused them mostly -

[@chatteyj]

Hope they switched bank accounts after

[@juststokedtobehere]

Very Uncanadian of them not to apologize

[@coolwater55]

It was about legalities. Sue the pants off them and boycott any bank who took such direction without adhering to the law.

[@francisbeaudry8598]

exactly

[@j.s.3297]

Maybe someone should tell Bill that mandates happened here in America and many doctors and nurses were forced out of their jobs.

[@SpotTheBorgCat]

As were pilots and other flight attendants. ( By Federal mandate)

[@zerospace101]

Pretty sure he knows and also knows at least at the time (from my observance that could be wrong) supported the draconian lockdowns and forced Mandates

[@dolphincliffs8864]

Lots of people were fired from the VA.

[@buch434]

Good

[@LeeZaslofsky]

Not "many". Some, who refused to be vaccinated for some strange reason. That attitude is why America had double the deaths (in proportion to population) that Canada had. But maybe you thought that was a price worth paying because it happened to other people, not you.

[@MG-pq5pb]

As an American this was one of the scariest things I have ever seen a politician do. Completely changed my outlook on money, banking and government. Still cannot believe there is not a bigger stink about this. He also threatened to take their kids and dogs away!! Really really shocking stuff. If it can happen in Canada, it can happen in the USA. Still unbelievable.

[@ViralKiller]

no because we have guns..lots of guns...see how that works now

[@theredscourge]

The only reason this is not bigger news is the same Canadian government that froze the donors' accounts has also handed billions to the major media organizations in the country for bogus reasons and is surely threatening to stop the flow of money if they don't do exactly what they demand.

[@greasymuchacho]

As a man who owns a boat I think it was ridiculous.

[@heroicbannana8605]

@@ViralKiller Americans say they have guns, but their government know they will never use them. Why else do you think they keep pushing so hard?

[@jeffbell9391]

​@@ViralKillerwho in the right mind would want to move to the gun country of the world. Four or five hundred mass shooting this year.

[@tokesalotta1521]

What Canadians who support Trudeau need to understand is that he could one day use the same tactics against them if they ever disagree with him on something

[@chesterlestrange7725]

They are the useful idiots that bezmenov warned all of us about back in the mid 80s.

[@v4v819]

He'd never do that! I know he's learned a lot since then and is now acting like a PM should! I know this because Canadian broadcast news tells me so! :)

[@MissGigglesdotcom]

He already has

[@TamBlam]

Anything is better than our country being run by a bunch of racist, misogynistic, crazy, right wing potato heads.

[@ThatGuy-tx4vm]

if those "canadians" who support trudeau don't wake up and care about their fellow citizens then the normal people shouldn't care about them in return. Those who vote for scum like trudeau will either have to change or pay for their crimes.

[@pinksugarcookies71]

As a Canadian, we were shocked by Trudeau’s response. It made it very clear how he feels about regular Canadians. He ruined our country in every way possible and has such an ego he doesn’t see it but blames ordinary, hardworking, law abiding citizens.

[@jamesfoss1627]

Most people I know went from viewing canada as more of a light joke to a fascistic wannabe dictatorship in that one move. The maid system controversy solidified it right after

[@westonbrewster8344]

Then how is he still getting elected?

[@anjamo2307]

we call our trudy brandon

[@uberhaxonova]

Trudeau is a perfect example of an inexperienced and frankly uneducated leader having media attention

[@pinksugarcookies71]

@@jamesfoss1627 not sure what planet you are from, clearly not in reality. Canada has never been seen as a light joke

[@Simply_Simian]

We’ve been building to this point for generations where enough of our creature comforts are supplied with little to no effort on the part of the individual that we’re becoming remarkably accepting and even inviting of overreaching authority, so long as our safety is secure. What I’m seeing in Canada, living in British Columbia, is that the vast majority of people do not and will not object to authority if the gravy train keeps rolling. They just don’t want their peaceful pattern to end. Some, however, will speak up. They will put their neck on the line. They will object. They won’t comply. Those people are few and far between. However, with the internet, along with its myriad toxic issues, these people are connecting. The trucker convoy would not have happened on the scale that it did without the internet. I watched it grow from day one until ultimately thousands and thousands of Canadians were outside cheering the convoy on along its checkpoints. Without the internet, a movement like that would have been tar and feathered into oblivion by the mainstream media sources and newspapers. All of the coverage would have been heavily selective and as negative as possible to cast it in the worst possible light. We must not let them come for the internet. It is our last hope for humanity to network organically and resist the tidal wave of tyranny that is accumulating momentum and power.

[@jimlambrick4642]

Well said. Also in BC. The real scary part in Canada is that there is no national alternative media. All network TV is just compliant liberal or NDP sycophant's with so-called 'journalists' that roll over to have their belly scratched. The level of woke pity-party drivel on the so-called 'News Hour' is beyond pathetic, so biased and historically inaccurate it is hard to believe the weak pathetic normies can even stomach it. At least in the UK they now have GB News, and Australia Sky News. We have nothing. Where are you Conrad Black?

[@terri2494]

I remember seeing a highway lined with supporters standing by the road with signs, cheering for the seemingly endless convoy passing by. Some hung flags and signs from the overpasses. This when the temperatures were well below freezing.

[@Simply_Simian]

@@terri2494 the Fraser Valley was roaring with support along the overpasses that line the highway. It was truly the most wholesome Canadian event in our recent history. What our politicians and media did to that movement was abhorrent and blatantly betrayed the reality of the situation. It was a grassroots movement spurred on by seemingly endless overreaches by the government that seemed all too willing to let the Covid crisis continue indefinitely so long as they got to retain their emergency powers. We finally said enough. It was a beautiful protest. Organized, large, forceful, but polite. The true Canadian way.

[@botno69420]

You're spot on. As much as I hate and despise "the internet" (in its current "form"), it simultaneously the last frontier of freedom and possibility. If you can't handle the internet at its worst, you don't deserve it at its best. Attitudes towards it will have to change, if we're going to maintain the freedom while mitigating the negative aspects of it. I feel like pretty much the only people who know how to handle the internet come from the age group who grew up with (and in) it from dial-up to the advent of social media, and then more or less disowned the social media aspec of it. I might be completely in the wrong, but I feel like I have a somewhat healthy attitude towards it, but find it utterly hard to find people (both in, but especially outside) my rough age group, who can even remotely understand what I'm talking about.

[@Simply_Simian]

@@botno69420 I’m 26 now with two older brothers born in 1990 and 1986. My earliest memories of the internet are Diablo 2 and StarCraft, to be fair. What I remember most is how the internet could connect strangers towards a common goal. The social media stuff came way later to me and I watched it develop from its earliest stages. Like any platform with an array of functions, it can be used within those array of functions however the user wants. It’s up to each of us and all of us to foster a more positive environment which encourages dialogue and freedom. There will always be a certain amount of people who just don’t care. They want to consume entertainment and exist until they die. That’s fine. That’s them. But we must not let that become the dominant, driving force. Those of us with the awareness to see what’s going on and the desire to engage with likeminded people who are also aware must sustain that spirit. You’re on the right track, my friend. If you’re having trouble finding other people who understand what you’re talking about, keep searching! We’re all out here, and though we may be separated by time and space we have this platform which enables us to connect.

[@hc174]

It's such a relief every time I hear someone speaking on this. Like we didn't imagine that right. Justin Trudeau really did that.

[@000snow000]

Did what?

[@whaleoilbeefhooked3892]

@@000snow000 ...to align his cabinet with minority party MPs and the opposition party to effectively declare war (by parliamentary act) on peaceful Canadians who simply asked to him to speak to them regarding a scientific understanding of his violation of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms to mandate they participate in his experimental medical intervention by bodily injection, or lose their freedom to move about and to earn an income.

[@johnberger5539]

Well, as Fidel Castro's bastard love child, he certainly has totalitarianism in his genes.

[@mofishin2648]

@@whaleoilbeefhooked3892 "scientific understanding of his violation of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms" LOL Canada wanted them gone and cheered when they were sent packing

[@onefootinthegrave]

@@whaleoilbeefhooked3892 It was about wearing masks, nothing more than that ! More of us agreed with him than not. I'm voting for him again, he protected me, and millions of his supporters. from covid.

[@tammymcleod9860]

As a Canadian I am disgusted and disappointed by this time in our history. I’m also so disappointed in my fellow Canadians apathy and lack of empathy to their fellow Canadians that were the subject of the Trudeau governments overreach

[@kimberleymansfield1099]

why is the term 'over-reach'' being used? To minimize the actual events? It was a fear-based response from Trudeau and a criminal misuse of office, and a horrifying violation of rights and freedoms!! The decline of canadian charter of rights and freedoms. I felt hope for a time with people strong and couragously standing up and speaking out....

[@joannewilson6577]

Yes and the prime minister of the province and the mayor of the city and the chief of police and 99% of the peoples in the city all approve it! How more could you need to move against an illegal siege of a city main road for one whole month?

[@RussianBotJim]

@tammy: me too about the same things in my country. damage done by the actual virus is far exceeded by damage done out of fear, greed and self-righteousness.

[@joannewilson6577]

@@RussianBotJim Show me your data and not about your feelings? No one died of fear of any vaccines or anything your in your imagination? Science data matter a lot more than the paranoia of a few like you.

[@richardvervoorn6626]

Too true, apathy is a cornerstone of what it’s like to have been raised in Canada in the ‘60’s and ‘70’s for some. I’m surprised at the same apathy surrounding the current Hamas/Israeli conflict…

[@barbdunn8886]

It’s worse than just loss of reputation for Canada; the financial seizures set a dangerous precedent for future draconian measures.

[@zerospace101]

Pretty sure the enactment of emergencies declarations are being tightened to avoid this abuse again....I hope. Such as at the very least a 2/3rd majority vote of all MPs as well as the Senate and Judicial sign off on the legality based on current information before it is implemneted and voted on within 24 hours and that enactment falsely pretensed or wrong information/misrepresented info would be severly punished with life in prison. Better be damn sure it is the literal last ditch thing before a total collapse of the country or invasion because the government especially the PM would be 100% responsible

[@tobe1207]

For sure. Im not a "conspiracy guy" i dont follow other's ideas on the subject. But ik about real life and history and human nature. I don't know what they will do. But i know that every year they keep adding things that lessen our independence and autonomy. And i know that a society where every single person feels isolated. a society Where every second of every THING is recorded in audio and video with the information processed through AI that understands context. A society that trains children to snitch on neighbors and their own parents. A society that a 30 second video can sway a majority to hate or love anything with no factual basis. A society that's divided over completely fabricated bullshit and constantly distracted by more bullshit. And a society where the government has reach into every aspect of life... And in that society, nobody even fathoms that its possible to chamge anything. That society seems pretty ideal for a despot. Everyone was worried about facism wearing the costume of a Jack boot nazi. But this isn't the 1900s, holding ppl down only strengthens the people. They dont rule by oppressing the.masses. they make the masses ignorant and give them shiny things to keep them content and the masses oppress us. Why you think minorities get so many benefits? Because kindness? Or by giving everything they need for free,they don't struggle or grow or thrive.

[@barbdunn8886]

@@tobe1207 So thoroughly and eloquently explained! We, whose eyes are opened, see the parallels between the behaviors you mentioned and the totalitarian, oppressive regimes that have left so very little personal liberty for its citizens (subjects) in thought, speech, and action. We see ourselves going down this very path and that's what terrifies us. It can happen and does happen to free societies that are blind to it and apathetic to it.

[@kimmer6]

Just wait until Artificial Intelligence supervised digital banking and implanted micro chips are how we are supposed to conduct business, pay bills, buy food. The Globalists who invented ESG and DEI scoring want to implement a Red China type Social Scoring System for the Western world. It's implementation is in progress right now. What, low score? You did not get your 17th vax? You don't buy into the 937 different sexes and believe in only man and woman? You can't buy your food, pay your rent, pay your electric bill until you raise that score and COMPLY! The Globalists want 2 things..... population reduction and absolute control of those who are left alive.

[@TraceyMush]

Yes, the seizing of bank accounts of people who simply paid money toward a political cause, the protest, that was Unforgivable. One large step toward authoritarianism. I was scared as I had given a small donation. Even if I hadn't been almost directly impacted, I would have found this outrageous.

[@BenWeeks-ca]

People donated to a federally approved charity. I remember when the mere discussion of the possibility of auditing a charity provoked intense pearl clutching because of fear that such a thing could chill free speech. The same organization ignored this vastly worse abuse as it was coded as "bad" by those they see as their tribe.

[@grantmccarron3963]

so the people saying "everyone that donated had their bank accounts frozen" IS a gross overstatement???

[@James333-n2q]

I’d say it was authoritarianism, not just a step towards it. You’re obviously a forgiving person.

[@coldstuff9784]

Me and my family donated too, luckily our bank accounts weren't frozen but our personal information was leaked and then used by the federal government/CBC to contact and try to scare us. Very freaky time.

[@brianschryver8314]

@@grantmccarron3963 It’s kinda like saying everyone was disturbed by horn honking and it was ruining their lives. Funny how that goes….

[@dinismantas7265]

Peterson is absolutely right, in my opinion. I just can't forgive Canadians for being so silent after that aberration of an action from Trudeau's Government. If this was allowed in a country such as Canada, it is the perfect precedent for what could happen in any other western democracy, including my own country.

[@TPain79lawguy]

It's not that we're silent, is that our dissent is silenced / censored / attacked, etc. Lots of patriots but few megaphones to connect. A big part of the trucker success was citizen-band (CB) radio - a powerful unifier and magnifier.

[@mofishin2648]

Canadians wanted them gone, stop drinking the koolaid

[@ASMR_Lighting]

Many of us realize that not enough Canadians understand how bad it is and how bad it is going to get. Those of us who can leave already have or are planning to. Some trapped with family responsibilities.

[@mofishin2648]

@@ASMR_Lighting Don't let the door hit you on the way out!

[@wynonasbigbrowndragon6121]

I sure as hell wasn't silent. That was embarrassing as hell. It was condemned by the truckers' union, too. I thought the minority of truckers engaging in that shit show were behaving like inconsiderate douchebags. If they kept it at Parliament Hill I wouldn't have cared but they bled their nonsense into civilian areas and made them deal with it, too.

[@DerGlaetze]

Having Canadian roots myself, I am astounded at the decline of Canadian sense of independence. These are sad times for my cousins north of the border.

[@pinchnloaf]

People don’t realize how horrible Trudeau really is. He honestly has it in him to be another Mao or Stalin if he had a true dictatorship like he said that he wants

[@ma3stro681]

Same as Dan Andrews, Premier of Victoria, Australia …

[@slickdiggler1197]

Well it runs in his blood lol

[@tvhistorynow]

@@slickdiggler1197 LOL, i forgot about the rumor for a sec and thought ''his dad wasn't so bad, was he... ohhhh right.''

[@anjamo2307]

he is so castro.. it's in his dna

[@Chilltothend]

He is his fathers son (Fidel Castro, his mother had an affair with).

[@justincase4812]

Yep I was one of those people too, under arbitrary suspicion. Made a large deposit in my account and the bank said they couldn't accept the deposit. But that was after a week after it was cleared by the bank. They cancelled the deposit, froze the account, and all my savings, TFSA and RESP accounts. They seized my accounts, denied the cheque's validity despite it being made out BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ITSELF no less. The matter was not resolved for over 6 months. This was a deceased parent's estate tax return.

[@lmb1962]

As a Canadian-born American, I know where Ottawa is. Still pissed at Trudeau for doing what he did.

[@bartonlee3594]

Incels all hate Trudeau because girls like him. just sayin

[@christopherbice862]

The fact that cigar smoking Bill Maher didn't know about the bank accounts tells you a lot of what you need to know about his perspective on issues.

[@Hhuhbvhjbhjb]

Yeah Jordan’s elitist attitude slips out here and there, still like him justfigure it’s the daily wire crew wearing off on him and being sober

[@zerospace101]

Biden is trying to do the same thing in the US. Thankfully, Americans know how to put up a fight when it comes to democracy and what is right. Still useful idiots on both sides though

[@Julesy980]

The solution isn't protesting. Or voting. It's guns.

[@jerrydeanswanson79]

"...Ottawa...like they know where it was...". Smiles. That was a good line. And hello from wisconsin!

[@yafuker6046]

Hell, he's right! Typical yank's been dumbed down dangerously.

[@jonyblum]

Awesome line LOL

[@JamesMilliron]

Thanks to your comment I opened The Google and discovered that Ottawa is the capital of Canada... I'm a 38 year old American who has traveled to 34 countries, including Canada, and until this moment I had no idea where Ottawa was, how it was spelled, or that it was a significant city. Jordan was right when he said "even if they knew where it was, which they don't, and they don't care..."

[@netposerx]

So concerning that Bill Maher had not idea what Trudeau did to the truckers. Tim Pool was correct on how some big names in media have no idea what's going on.

[@LeeZaslofsky]

What they did to the truckers? What about what the truckers did to Ottawa, the Ambassador Bridge, the border crossing at Coutts? What was that, a game of patty cake? What the truckers did was ILLEGAL, which is why some of them were penalized by the courts. THAT was the oppression, not the government's bumbling three week delay before they cleared the occupiers out.

[@science4life486]

Hear hear, someone with sense. These two spoke so broadly about the issue...@@LeeZaslofsky

[@debbyallen1234]

The media knows. They are deliberately not informing people of news that goes against their own agendas.

[@elindquist5725]

Funny how nobody labels the traffic shutdown by extreme environmental groups, extinction rebellion etc as illegal. 🤔

[@bobhoskins124]

@@LeeZaslofskyshutting off bank accounts of ppl that donated wasn’t the way to go. U arrest ppl for loitering, impound improperly parked vehicles. Law is meant to punish actions not thoughts. The slippery slope of allowing financial institutions to lock you out of the system for protest is apparently lost on you.

[@litedawg]

The fact that Bill Maher didn’t already know this is exactly the problem. How did he not know this?

[@nsiebenmor]

Does everyone need to know everything? Is that possible?

[@litedawg]

@@nsiebenmor I would think a person like Maher , whose job is to cover politics , would know that truckers had their bank accounts seized.

[@williamhammer9649]

@@litedawgbecause Americans don’t give a crap about Canadian politics lol

[@TheSkinnychef1620]

​@@williamhammer9649- Foolish ones, perhaps. I'm a lowly small business owner (flooring) with a wife, four kids, 29 chickens and a half acre garden to maintain and I have the time and inclination to stay abreast of important topics. What's everybody else's excuse?

[@jb8408]

Because it’s Canada?

[@cgsweat]

Bill Maher's reaction to Jordan Petersen telling him about Canada's govt is basically the same reaction as the average person to these things. Bill: "Oh yeah that's bad." Also Bill: sips from his vodka and tonic and laughs as if Jordan is telling him a joke

[@meltedfro]

Its because Bill like most Americans aren't educated in our political shit storm even though we always know what's going on in the great U S of A

[@neilnewinger3059]

Bill is a socialist millionaire, who invested million of his dollars to Biden's election campaign. What do you expect?

[@OceanBoulevardBand]

@@meltedfro We just don't give a shit about a country that only has a few dudes on horses for a military.

[@MikeBarbarossa]

Bill Mahar : " Ya can't protest the government??? Wha?? Absurd, that's what protest is for!" Goes on to paint the Jan 6 protest as the worst thing ever

[@deryk2002au]

If it's not happening in the US, then it doesn't really matter to Bill M. This reaction here or lack of, is proof enough

[@JP..5-.]

There's never been a worse Prime Minister in Canadian history.

[@chinmay6249]

The fact that Bill didn't even know whose accounts were frozen shows the attention and information he lacks. He's a media reporter/ news show host.

[@mademoisellemeena7398]

He actually did know about it. If you watch the one of his episodes closer to the event he comments on it. I think he was just letting Peterson have the floor or he'd forgotten.

[@KD-lf5vn]

He was inviting Peterson to tell the story. More impact that way.

[@rickteasley2237]

Nobody knows everything.... except apparently you

[@kennethdower7425]

The fact that you don't know everything about every single political issue shows how utterly lacking in attention and information you are. You're an internet ding-a-ling with a YT account.

[@tc6485]

Canada doesn't matter to anyone outside the borders of the broken country. Don't kid yourself.

[@XantinovaX]

My singing teacher had her account locked for 72hrs, then when it was unlocked they'd wiped the $100 donation she'd made, no record of it and she didn't get her money back, she was 68 yrs old 😖😖 a pensioner!

[@icantwiththis]

Yes. They seized all the donations.

[@calvinhobbes6118]

@@icantwiththis So they STOLE it then?

[@violetwellness]

Whoa. What?

[@LeeZaslofsky]

I'm a pensioner too, older than the lady you mention. I didn't donate tot he Fuck Trudeau convoy, so my bank account wasn't frozen for a few weeks. Her donation obviously went to the convoy. I'm sure they used it very carefully to pay for the Hot Tub.

[@CaddyGuy420]

@@LeeZaslofsky Just replying so I can see when someone that knows more about it than myself replies to you. Something tells me you are on the wrong side of history and are either clueless to it or proud of it. Just curious how this thread unfolds.

[@bri_____]

"It's a slow process, which we call *Active Measures* . The first stage being *Demoralisation* , it takes from 15-20 years to demoralise a nation. The next is *Destabilisation* . What matters is essentials; economy, foreign relations, defence systems. The next stage is *Crisis* . Followed by a violent change of economic structure & politics. Finally, There is a period of *Normalisation* . It will last indefinitely." KGB defector Yuri bezmenov, 1984.

[@gonzalonunez8226]

Everyone should watch his lectures.

[@PittbuII]

@@gonzalonunez8226why when he explains in the video and we clearly can see he’s right about them being showed clear evidence and the facts will tell them nothing

[@mofishin2648]

None of this is happening in Canada lol

[@joshb8976]

@@mofishin2648yeah you guys just accept being trampled on by the state. But in the USA we have a constitution thats supposed to protect us from the state. They’re trying to get rid of it little by little.

[@manminusblood]

@@mofishin2648what rock have you been under?

[@Coach.Kallista]

As an ordained minister, I wrote countless exemption letters for my congregation. Despite the law being on our side and permitting religious exemptions, letter after letter was declined by any gov't linked organization. (Schools/universities, gov't employees, medical associations....). It was appalling.

[@mandygershon8603]

I'm an Alaskan who had ordered car parts from Canada, so when I heard the trucking convoy was occurring, I was naturally interested, at first, just because I wanted my car parts, but then I saw Trudeau's reaction and was appalled. Trudeau's continued bad behavior just got worse and more shocking as time went, so even though I'm on the poor side of income, I did donate to the truckers' cause. Tyrant Trudeau's behavior was abhorrent. I can't believe he's still in power.

[@anjamo2307]

how do dick-tators get into power the first time... did people actually vote for them or are there no choices? So tired of these oligarchs picking and paying for our representatives.

[@elbowroom7993]

Thank you for your help. You probably gave Trudeau nightmares about not being able to freeze an American's bank account.

[@andiman45]

Like Chump, have you seen the alternative. Also most truckers openly did not support the convoy. This was a fringe group of goose-steppers

[@OhAncientOne]

​@@andiman45You should see a doctor, you have the syndrome. Trudeau is the fascist and if you don't see that you have a serious problem.

[@theronash7269]

@@andiman45 You watch a lot of TV.

[@ruthhopfe7912]

It made very clear to me, a Canadian, the rumor was true that we are a country of "sheeple"! I still can barely fathom it! This incident has been used to threaten 'we the people' on many diverse fronts! I am dismayed that a 'nobody', practically a person with no skills or education, could be so accepted by Canadians as to sink our country! What is wrong with us???🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦

[@zerospace101]

For most of Canadian history, governments and media were mostly trusted to be truthful and bad governments replaced if the people felt that trust was betrayed. There was little need to distrust our institutions until the last 10 to 15 years or so. And even then, our democracy and freedom was not eroded or so little people did not notice until Trudeau upended it and just went crazy with the lies and propaganda. It took awhile but people are realizing it now. Covid and now this housing and affordability crises coupled with record mass immigration and refugees beyond what we can accommodate and absorb into our economy and culture, the snail pace of development, red tape, gatekeepers, inflation without wage increases to compensate making our money worth alot less than even 3 years ago. Canada has an uncanny ability to remain centre even when things get out of hand though this will be a hard filter that determine if we can or not continue that. Our institutions now hate our culture and history to the point of actively indoctrinating youth to spurn values and traditions that worked and allowed most to prosper even if they had little.

[@xxxxxx-ow2hp]

I have one vote. If I raise my 'voice' beyond that....I am labelled an alt-right, misogynist, white supremacist....and have my bank account frozen.

[@matso3856]

Well , feelings have won over logic when it's more important to feel good then do unpopular stuff that is good in the long term

[@KickAssets]

I was really shocked how much I got shit on at the time I supported the truckers. It actually really caught me off guard. I thought it was an obvious thing to support those who helped get all the shit you needed during the pandemic....mind boggling. It's hard to say, but I really feel like I cannot look the same at many of my Canadian brethren after that. Made me feel like everyone is/was asleep or just don't get it overall :(

[@DarrienHudgins]

The engagement with US style politics in our ruin. We are a separate people but our complexion online appears identical.

[@billielittle]

I know exactly how you feel. I feel the same. Mind boggling is right.

[@TheArkwelder]

I'm with you, brother. I was in complete disbelief.

[@jack-of-all-trades1234]

Many Canadians would call Trump a racist but casually turn a blind eye to Mr. Blackface himself Trudeau. Willful ignorance.

[@GeronimoPlaz]

Liberals don't care about people or logic. They only care about protecting the narrative that makes them feel like the best person.

[@jimdellavecchia4594]

Jordan is an absolutely brilliant man

[@rickl5596]

hahahahaha what a joke

[@AlexNiles64]

@@rickl5596went and saw him live, he is anything but a joke (sorry if he offends you)

[@gerardhiggins4827]

@@rickl5596Liking your own comment..embarrassing 🤦‍♂️

[@kildeeParker]

Peterson is a nut case. Look at his bigotry and his medical history. Ask him is God is real and he will give you a one hour answer that answers nothing. Just blah, blah, blah.

[@BarberForCatholicTalkingHeads]

Needs reminding that the term "lockdown" doesn't come from any medical system and terminology - it's from the prison system.

[@ericferre]

Security*

[@theredscourge]

Hospitals use terms like "medical quarantine"

[@LeeZaslofsky]

The lockdowns were necessary to stop the spread of COVID. The term was used by the media, and became the common way of referring to what really amounted to a kind of quarantine. The alternative to lockdowns was increased spread of the virus, more illness and death. But maybe you don't mind that, as long as it's not you doing the dying.

[@lautheimpaler4686]

pointless comment. Similar to saying that the floor is made of floor.

[@Sidneyyoungblood75]

​@@lautheimpaler4686floors are not made of floors, so your comment is pointless because it's totally incorrect

[@KA-vr4uu]

I wonder which bank apologized!? You’re right Jordan, Canadians aren’t sufficiently aware or shocked as they should be

[@Coach.Kallista]

I believe it was Scotia Bank - but I may be wrong - I looked it up a month ago.

[@backwoodskings1624]

Bro we’re very aware, but look what happens when we try to do something about it

[@Dvg920]

I’m just learning about this now (from the US). Absolutely stunning

[@rachelrasmussen1101]

I worked at a bank in Alberta (got fired when my vaccine e exemption expired, but was there during February for the convoy). I got the call from someone asking why their card wasn't working. I knew the second I looked at his files what must have happened, because those cowards left their name off it internally (there is ALWAYS a record of which employee makes any changes to a file on your bank account). The protestor and I just sat there choking on our own rage. I thanked him for fighting for us through tears, told him far more info than I was allowed and hung up.

[@mrnour852]

Sad

[@dearthofdoohickeys4703]

I don’t have any particular feelings for or against the protests that happened in Ottawa. I just remember seeing, and this was live, people being aggressive with the riot horses. The horses got skittish and stepped on the protesters who were lying in front of the horses in defiance. The news headline that evening was “Police trample innocent protesters” and THAT really boiled my blood.

[@ronb7481]

The banks themselves are doing this on their own accord in the UK, refusing bank services to customers with political views they don't like.

[@Sandlund93]

The banks have been the poison of society for 4000 years. Especially since 1668. It's not about politics, it never was. Because there is no politics without money.

[@thechuckjosechannel.2702]

The answer to that is Political Discrimination which is Wrong no matter who you Vote For, Left, Right, Independent etc. Seeing the UK do this makes me feel ashamed to be of English Origin or live in this Woke Country.

[@gcxred4kat9]

I lost my job in Canada to the vaccine mandates. What the banks did absolutely sealed my decision to change my residency back to the States.

[@Auxfyt]

I was shocked about it .. scared the shit out of us

[@divinecomedian2]

Make sure you pick a good state and city. There was just as much tyranny going on in some parts of the US.

[@gcxred4kat9]

@@divinecomedian2 Back to Florida, where I can ride my Harley with no helmet and my .38 in my pocket that as of a couple months ago I don't even need a license to carry!

[@crazystewart34]

If you lost your job because vaccine mandate issues it is due to refused to get vaccinated. That is nobody's fault but your own.

[@ghostviggen]

@@crazystewart34Refusing an experimental drug is a basic human right. Forcing someone to lose their job over not taking medication is a brutal violation for basic human rights.

[@Jackaroo.]

Freezing an account is the same as taking it. If you don’t have access to your money, they took it away from you. You don’t know if your access will be restored. That is only after the act of the theft.

[@rahn45]

Just need to freeze an account for just a little bit of time. Just enough so you miss your bills and let the snowball from that take care of the rest.

[@calvinhobbes6118]

People did get there accounts back, but Turdeau stole their donations. They did not get them back.

[@framergod69]

@@calvinhobbes6118 ahh well My GF donated and she did get her money back after a while so maybe some didn't but the people I know did get the money back

[@Meeces55]

The protest started with truckers who couldn't deliver anything because they weren't vaccinated. Even though they were working completely fine for 90% of the pandemic without a vaccine. Which caused shortages all over the country, which Trudeau is still blaming on the truckers

[@Paul-vf2wl]

The US had the same mandates for truckers crossing the border the protest was stupid and pointless.

[@Ameborl]

It's happening in the US too. Chase just closed the bank account of Dr. Mercola and his company a few days ago. This is happening on the down low, please keep aware people.

[@calvinhobbes6118]

Do NOT do business w/ BOA!

[@Ameborl]

@@phillipbanes5484 Maybe not, but banks should not be closing accounts due to political statements. Dr. Mercola has been very anti- the covid response and many alternative doctors are being targeted now. Why doesn't Chase close Epstein's, child predators or felons accounts? They don't. It's all political.

[@10amSanta]

When authority figures give any reason to not question their authority, QUESTION.

[@kyledailey]

The shear power over all your income, is scary. You can take down a country with that action.

[@alanw73]

Go fund me released the data on who was sending rhe money. From what country. 90% of it came from Canada.

[@user-vh9fn2qg6v]

As a Canadian who was ILLEGALLY spied on during this protest - I completely agree with Jordan. My cell phone communications were intercepted by the Federal & Provincial government because I simply DONATED to the Go Fund Me/Give Send Go campaign. I HATE my government now. Illegal search & seizure. Unfortunately my lawyer advised me that this would be too difficult to pursue in court.

[@cornballer7383]

You were a part of the doofus parade?

[@user-vh9fn2qg6v]

@@cornballer7383 I’m the one fighting this tyrannical government to preserve our free speech. You know, so you can call me a doofus. Thanks for all your help.

[@cornballer7383]

@@user-vh9fn2qg6v I want you to consider, just for a second, that you are being played by conspiracy mongers who want your attention and your money.

[@jeffbell9391]

​@@user-vh9fn2qg6vno your not a doofus , you are a moron. Giving your money to who? Did you know where it was going they keep saying it was truckers protest, were 80% of truckers were vaccinated by then.you know how your money was spent ? Or they pocket your money.

[@LeeZaslofsky]

"Too difficult"? He was being polite. You had no case at all. Everything was done legally, and with the support of most Canadians.

[@flowmastaflam]

What bothers me is that is always takes years for normal folk to understand the impact of such government overreach. And the folks that call it out as it’s happening get labeled as extreme, fringe, conspiracy theorists. Then it gets memory holed for years until everyone pretends we all thought it was the wrong thing to do from the start.

[@Mustapha1963]

One step ahead of public opinion and you're a leader. Two steps ahead of public opinion and you're a conspiracy theorist.

[@chrishansen456]

​@@Mustapha1963Great quote.

[@jeffreyking279]

Both comments are spot.

[@RussianBotJim]

Maybe the best post I ever read!!!

[@joannewilson6577]

Yes and the prime minister of the province and the mayor of the city and the chief of police and 99% of the peoples in the city all approve it! How more could you need to move against an illegal siege of a city main road for one whole month?

[@johnakins7482]

Strange how Bruce Cockburn, a Canadian, warned of this in his song The Trouble With Normal years ago. It is happening in the US also where certain people are canceled and vilified for their beliefs.

[@Wiz3721]

"Donor information that was leaked from the GiveSendGo campaign-which has raised more than $9.5 million-revealed that more than half the donations going to protest organizers have come from the U.S." Apparently some Americans know where Ottawa is.

[@andycommonsincanada]

As soon as we heard about the seizure of bank accounts we closed our CICB account the next morning. So did many others in our small town. I imagine that people all over Canada did the same and that’s way they stopped doing that pretty quickly. You can guess what the bank CEOs said the Justin. “ WTF have you just done, you idiot “

[@framergod69]

I pulled my money out of BMO and the teller was saying that a lot of people had been in and that they were going to have to call and have more money brought to the branch

[@kenneth9874]

They did it to themselves by going along with it

[@theredscourge]

They probably want Canadians to drop the big banks, because in the next banking crisis only the big banks will get bailed out and then all the people skeptical of the Trudeau government will go broke when their small banks and credit unions holding all their assets go broke. Daily reminder that the CIDC only insures the first $100k or so of your savings. I'm looking at you, retirees!

[@jeffbell9391]

​@@framergod69I know bmo profit went from 5,000,000,000 to 4,999,999,999 and that's pushing it.

[@Sandlund93]

Except that the banks control Justin and not the other way around. It's kinda fascinating how 8 Billion people have been led to believe that politics can somehow control the hand that feeds it. There is no politics without money. And the banks are the only institution that can create new money, which is the core of the problem with the system. They bought control over society over centuries, over here it started back in 1668. In Canada it seems like they took over in 1934. Justin will never control the central bank, not even Hitler did that (Hjalmar Schacht and Walther Funk did). And all 4 of them have had the same boss, whether they knew it or not. All the crazy dictators of the 20th century were pawns of a much more sinister enemy of the people, the one that brought them all into power. Thanks to the rise of telecom infrastructure (Ericsson), the banks and their owners didn't just control the flow of money but information as well. The fact that the same people (the core of corruption now consists of a family that has played a major role in geopolitics for several generations, possibly as far back as the 18th century) own most of the media companies in the world means that their influence over public opinion has been immense.

[@reghu2032]

And this so called flag bearer of freeworld, leader of humanity criticise India for handling protest, in many ways Justin proved he is a "faker", "poser", "two-faced", "disingenuous", and a "hypocrite". Remember he ran away !

[@jimlambrick4642]

If Trudeau looked like John Diefenbaker, he would never have gone anywhere. Elections are like 'marginal effect' economics and a very small number of pink shallow think voters can get a purty boy elected, which is exactly what happened.

[@steveballmersbaldspot2.095]

India sends the military to religious shrines and kills innocent pilgrims along with terrorists. Canada has never done anything near as abhorrent and evil.

[@veenamishra8950]

Pawlowski speaks before DJTrump. Absolutely a connection tween MAGA & Convoywrs, down to shady money etc.

[@omenaccipio]

I had no idea so far, why it was said Trudeau was a dictator. Thank you Jordan Peterson. It was an easy answer for you and quite accurate. Seizing bank accounts for "supporting" a protest is something not even Maduro has come up with, my gosh!

[@coldstuff9784]

Trudeau also invoked the Emergencies Act, which was only ever used for wartime and terrorism when politicians were kidnapped and murdered. He did this for Canadian citizens who set up bouncy castles and played hockey in the streets. Literal treason. I don't know how he's still in power.

[@bikinggal1]

you had no idea? Until this very moment?

[@LeeZaslofsky]

Trudeau is not a dictator at all. He is accountable to Parliament and to the public. He is bound by laws that define his authority, and he obeys those laws almost all the time (he has apologized for some mistakes he has made). Trudeau does not have a majority, and the other parties can get together and force an election at any time. He regularly faces hostile questioning in the House, and he has faced hostile groups around the country, some of whom have pelted him with missiles. No dictator bothers with any of that. Opposition is suppressed, often violently; the media are closely controlled; hostile questioning is not tolerated -- the questioner risks arrest -- the Parliament is relatively powerless and in any case is dominated by the dictator's followers; elections are rigged, even to the point of excluding serious opponents from even running. The convoy was illegally occupying a major street in Ottawa, forcing diversions of traffic on the residents who still had to get to work etc. It was causing a lot of disruption -- the stores on Rideau Street, a major shopping street, had to be closed due tot he convoy, causing loss of pay to many workers. The convoy deliberately made noise through the night, disrupting the routines of many residents. Some convoy members harassed Ottawans for daring to wear a mask. The convoy's main slogan had nothing to do with COVID. It was "Fuck Trudeau", displayed on many banners, including a big one outside the windows of the PMO.The convoyers took over the lawn in front of Canada's Parliament and used it for something like a big tailgate party,complete with hot tub and other amusements. Port a Potties were set up outside the Parliament Block so the convoyers wouldn't have to do their business in the bushes somewhere. All this was ILLEGAL. NO ONE is permitted to park for weeks at a time on Wellington St. NO ONE is allowed to take over the Parliament lawn for weeks at a time. NO ONE is allowed to sound horns through the night. NO ONE is allowed to disrupt traffic in the center of a major city for weeks at a time. The "mandates" that annoyed the convoyers were mostly imposed by the provinces,not the federal government. Thus the convoy picked the wrong target if their beef was really about the mandates. In fact, their beef was that Trudeau had won the election several months before, his third win in a row, and the convoyers were pissed off about that. Their "leaders" had been impressed by the January 6 insurrection in Washington, and they wanted to try the same kind of thing in Ottawa, maybe even force Trudeau out of office. THAT'S why the convoy went to the Parliament building -- it's Canada's equivalent of the US Capitol. The convoy got support from the right wing ONLY, though some of the participants are probably not very political. In Canada the Conservatives sucked up to them and tried to force Trudeau to meet with the "leaders" who were flying the Fuck Trudeau banners. Is that how you arrange a meeting with someone? Yell "Fuck You! at him? Not where I come from. In the US, the convoyers had the support of right wing extremists like Ted Cruz, Josh Hawley ,and Tucker Carlson, who all joined in the bullshit about Trudeau being a dictator. In Europe, Trudeau addressed the Parliament, and was criticized by the fascists there, while the vast majority received him warmly. In Canada, the labour movement,including the Teamsters (who represent truckers) refused to support the convoy. The NDP, the Greens,and the Liberals all refused to support it. Mad Max Bernier supported it, but he has no seats in Parliament. Trudeau hesitated for three weeks before invoking the Emergencies Act, in large part because the truckers were blockading the Ambassador Bridge, which carries enormous amounts of goods needed by industries in Southwest Ontario especially. The use of the Act was approved by Parliament, as required by law, and went into effect long enough to clear out the convoy and deal with the massive influx of funds that the convoy "leaders" were receiving, much of it from the US. This involved freezing bank accounts for a short time so as to get a handle on what was happening to the money and where is was coming from. Once that was done, the Emergencies Act was lifted, and Ottawa, the Ambassador Bridge, and the border point at Coutts, AB,went back normal. No heads were broken, some arrests were made, and those arrested were treated as per normal; they then had the opportunity to defend themselves in court, and at the inquiry that was held afterwards. The convoy was a right wing stunt, nothing more. Its excuse was the "mandates" that ALL countries had imposed to stop the spread of COVID. The mandates worked: Canada had (proportionate to population) only half of the deaths that the US -- world leader in COVID deaths -- suffered. It was a sorry incident in Canada's history, an imitation of January 6 in the US that turned into a less violent, but longer lasting pain in the ass.

[@tuningsnow]

They did the same here in Brazil when people were protesting against the corrupt system. They jailed old people and freezed their bank accounts as well. It's like US and EUROPE are testing waters here and in Canada to see what the limit is.

[@jamesjenkins6093]

Comparing Truedeau to Maduro is just delusion. Jordan Peterson has a borderline obsessive hatred for Trudeau and is simply pandering to his fan base.

[@TBonerton]

Im Canadian, no one was on the truckers side. They saw them as the evil that divides our country. And now that the realization has set in they are appalled. Too stupid to see the storm coming. The same people who bought government's COVID story.

[@Paul-vf2wl]

Only your first sentence is true.

[@darrens.e1118]

The lockdowns In Ontario were terrible and long lasting it killed many independent businesses, the politicians however never missed a pay cheque, thats what really upset me.

[@mrnour852]

Are you aware covid killed millions around the globe!

[@annasulsky3418]

I remember Freeland with a happy face, smiling, when she announced that the bank accounts had been frozen of people donated some money to the Freedom convoy.

[@dondaleb]

she was soooo excited, she couldnt try to hide it.. it seemed like it was her greatest wish come true.... getting their claws into crypto accounts and freezing financial assets.. the power...

[@theredscourge]

And yet these "terrorists" as Trudeau and her would call them failed to kill her subsequently. It's almost like they're a bunch of tyrants and the truckers and the donors of the truckers are not terrorists at all...

[@LeeZaslofsky]

Frozen for a few weeks, then unfrozen. Inconvenient, sure -- but Canada had to get a handle on where all that money was coming from. Turns out a lot of it came from the US -- Americans paying to cause trouble in Canada.

[@williamhutcheson6511]

Canada and the U.S. Two countries being led by dolts.

[@tomdalton4293]

There was a time when they weren't?😆

[@wrongfullyaccused7139]

Led by installed communist puppets.

[@wrongfullyaccused7139]

@@tomdalton4293 : Don't know about Canada. America has had some fine leaders.

[@JaCee501]

You forgot Australia. We’re governed by Woke, leftist morons too!

[@jnestor481]

It’s intentional. They’re WEF stooges. Total puppets

[@peacefullifestylesl.c.s.5303]

Money is blocked to anyone who is suspected to be a criminal. That's regular practice. N

[@captainjack5529]

“They who give up liberty for safety deserve neither” Benjamin Franklin

[@Paul-vf2wl]

Franklin's original quote defends the authority of a legislature to govern in the interests of collective security but Fox news told you some gibberish and you ate it up.

[@captainjack5529]

@@Paul-vf2wl I don’t watch fox

[@Paul-vf2wl]

@@captainjack5529 You clearly don't read either

[@stevenlarge895]

They’ve just tried that in the uk and the backlash has been BIBLICAL

[@zenon3021]

by that you mean Fictional? :)

[@ViralKiller]

@@zenon3021 dont mess with England we actually fight back...Very aggressive mood here in London....none of that forced vax shite worked here once...too many ethnics

[@jeannedenbigh8919]

Unforgettable and unforgivable also the brutal treatment by the police and political prisoners still in jail after 500 days It is as if some Canadians still don't recognize the effects

[@CaliTXman]

Canada has fallen under tyrannical globalist rule. It is a growing national security issue, and must be conquered and liberated by the US.

[@andiman45]

they were anarchists

[@collections3119]

America should stop protecting canada until they're willing to live by American values. Build a wall along the border to keep out the Riff Raff; Canadians who value freedom can cross over.

[@natalienovakremplakowski4765]

@@andiman45 CBC troll.

[@laurakain1524]

@@andiman45 So what if they were? Should socialists be persecuted as well

[@xitheris1758]

I'm never visiting Canada until Trudeau has been out of office for a few years. That, and until they stop offering people assisted suicide for at-home mobility issues.

[@Zero-lh1rb]

I asked my Canadian relatives why voted Trudeau, he said Trudeau was bad but the other candidates were worse. I told him nothing's worse than an authoritarian government.

[@KM-tx7mn]

An authoritarian government holding elections? You might need to read up on what an authoritarian government is

[@crazystewart34]

It has nothing to do with Authoritarian measures. If this was done under any other party that formed government

[@ghostviggen]

@@KM-tx7mnJust because you have elections doesn’t mean your not authoritarian.

[@kronusx3484]

@@KM-tx7mn China has elections too, are you saying that they are not authoritarians?

[@Ston247]

It means your relatives, like so many other people are still asleep. My sympathies.

[@johnhynes7784]

And this is what will happen when countries remove currency and rely on electronic transfer. Not only will it give total control to the government, the banks will really start charging for keeping your money and absolutely stop paying interest. In Australia, some banks now refuse to take currency. Having said that, the government you vote for is the government you deserve.

[@jeffreyking279]

Spot on!

[@bgbgbg123]

Think about it. Why does currency have value? Because we say it does and the government says it does. It really isn't that different than transfering money electronically. The government could determine that transfer worthless just like they could the currency itself. They won't though because that would crash the economy.

[@jeffg540]

Bitcoin.

[@sodarkherhair78]

Greetings from Conservative Deutschland. I was hoping to visit Canada one day but when THAT story broke about people opposing govern-mental measures being denied access to their hard-earned...well, let's just say it changed my mind. I might come when Trudeau goes...😊

[@Uluru484]

Their bank accounts were frozen because of the donations they were receiving from MAGA groups is that not so.. People in foreign countries were fuelling uprising in our country. This wasn’t about single father Joe Whoever working overtime to provide for his brood of ten and having his account frozen….

[@Viking7771]

Canada has Fallen 😢born here in 1963 was a pretty good place for most of my life by since the Globalists push for depopulation starting with the western nations it has turned into Hell here, looking into moving to Mexico! 😊

[@happyslave6783]

If you have a look at how south East Asian countries behaved, you'll say what happened in Canada was rather mild. At least we found out who they answer to.

[@neilosbeverly7462]

As an American living in Greece seeing all the reactionary extremism from the governments of Canada and Australia toward the common people changed my mind to view them more of a police state, or a grey state moving more toward a police state than a democracy.

[@rhmxos]

Greece is a great place. Great views, good christian people, what’s there not to like.

[@joannewilson6577]

Yes and the prime minister of the province and the mayor of the city and the chief of police and 99% of the peoples in the city all approve it! How more could you need to move against an illegal siege of a city main road for one whole month?

[@joannewilson6577]

The far right extremist are the one that refused to move peacefully after a FULL MONTH of blocking the streets ILLEGALLY with 2 000 huge trucks!

[@kylelaforest9919]

Even in the US we were told not to be out past a certain time during peak Covid paranoia in 2020. I don’t know if it was actually enforced since I never heard anyone arrested over it. Still crazy our government tried to give us a curfew in “the land of the free”.

[@8rr725]

@@joannewilson6577 There you go agreeing with Canada and Australia being police states. You keep repeating the same crap. You've gotta be a bot.

[@danielyoung633]

Good on Bill for sitting down and talking to Jordan

[@jpcreativeimagery]

no, he's a frickin clown that's part of the corrupt media system. He's only got Peterson on there for the clicks. Don't be so naive.

[@willyboyw.5771]

Maher idolizes Jordan.

[@Paul-vf2wl]

@@willyboyw.5771 He idolizes his huge number of clueless sycophants

[@appleturnover519]

Those trucker protestors blocked downtown Ottawa for days on end. JP. You don't mention that.

[@stacysmith7387]

This was a great interview. Great discourse and chemistry.

[@Iamrightyouarewrong]

no its not.

[@Berdymadafakas]

​@@Iamrightyouarewrongyou didn't listen we all see you big fat phony

[@thh383]

yes it was very truthful.......some thing we nevrr see from the main streem media!!

[@wrongfullyaccused7139]

@@Iamrightyouarewrong : Well said communist dupe.

[@widows-sun-369]

so in depth, a bit too long tho'

[@baggie_woodman]

My better half and son had every intention that we'd move to Canada as her parents moved there 15yrs ago. The land the relaxed attitude etc and then Trudeau did that! Then New Zealand and Australia went the same insane way. The anglosphere treated it's people so badly.

[@theredscourge]

This is what happens when you don't have a first and second amendment or an extremely difficult to amend constitution.

[@LeeZaslofsky]

It wasn't so bad. Two thirds of Canadians supported what he did. The convoy was causing too much disruption, and showed no signs of going away.

[@theredscourge]

@@LeeZaslofsky two thirds of Canadians believed the propaganda that the major Canadian news networks were happy to spread on behalf of the Lieberals because the hundreds of millions in free money would stop if they didn't spread it. One third of Canadians actually paid close attention to the events as they unfolded and recognized the propaganda for what it was.

[@baggie_woodman]

@LeeZaslofsky So the convoy was too disruptive but the complete removal of freedoms unless you complied with being injected with something that didn't stop you getting it or spreading mixed with threats to losing your jobs and burying your loved ones was okay? Oh dear. You're were/are on the wrong side of the argument. Let's wait till your bank account is frozen based on your moral stance. What he did was disgraceful.

[@LeeZaslofsky]

@@theredscourge No, that's not true at all. The Conservatives were supporting the convoy every day in Parliament, hurling accusations against Trudeau. The media reported what they said, they interviewed the "leaders" of the convoy and the people who took part, they made sure that Canadians knew both sides of the story. There is no "free money" going to the Canadian media in order to turn them into shills for the Liberals. Before Trudeau took office, the Conservatives were in power -- did they use money to make the media shills for their party? No -- they complained about the CBC all the time because it wasn't just like Fox News in the US. CTV is not Liberal, and it doesn't get "free money" from the government. Nor do the other media. Newspapers are going broke because of the internet taking all their advertising money -- the government has not bailed them out. The right wing doesn't believe in publicly funded media like the CBC. They DO believe in massive subsidies to the oil industry and many other corporations. They are constantly hounding the government for more free money to "create jobs" and "help them compete" etc. You say that two thirds of Canadians are stupid because they don't agree with you. You must be a very superior person to be wiser than two thirds of Canadians. The convoy was a right wing stunt, aimed at starting a Canadian January 6 insurrection that would push Trudeau out of office. It was driven by the frustration of the extreme right wing that Trudeau had won a third election. Their slogan was not "no mandates". It was "Fuck Trudeau". They had three weeks to make their point, and Canadians STILL thought they were full of shit. The only thing that bothered Canadians was that Trudeau hadn't acted faster to clear the convoy out.

[@bobbirobinson8213]

I understand what Justin did,, and he and his corrupt friends should be held accountable 😢

[@neurocidesakiwi]

They should, but won't.

[@ThatGuy-tx4vm]

The truth is he should be ended without trial. That is true democratic justice. You hurt the people, the people hurt you. No judges, no courts, no politics. Direct democracy.

[@joannewilson6577]

Yes and the prime minister of the province and the mayor of the city and the chief of police and 99% of the peoples in the city all approve it! How more could you need to move against an illegal siege of a city main road for one whole month?

[@primehuntingtime2021]

As it pertains to the bank accounts I recall seeing a video of some government hearing where there was a gal saying that they need to expand the ability for them to freeze bank accounts. Very scary stuff that I cant believe there wasnt more outrage.

[@Bobby.Kristensen]

Swede here, never heard about this! That is shockingly insane! :O Freezing bank account is out right pure evil! How are you supposed to buy food even?! Sure, you might have good willed friends, but what if you don't? That is honestly completely unacceptable unless you are suspected of extreme crimes like murder, kidnapping, terrorism or national security concerns and they cannot find you.

[@greasymuchacho]

Karate purple belt that owns a poodle here.....

[@Robot-Overlord]

I think Maher is rediscovering politics every day and then forgetting about it before the day is up.

[@TheWiggleTuff]

Literally the definition of stupidity

[@borisdodgingbullets]

Great interaction gentlemen! I am thrilled to see the growth of this tribe! Thank you both for your leadership!!!

[@joannewilson6577]

Ontario premier says Ottawa 'under siege,' declares state of emergency. Premier Doug Ford is declaring a state of emergency in Ontario, which he says will give authorities more tools to help stop the "illegal occupation of Ottawa." "I call it a siege because that is what it is. It's an illegal occupation." Ford said he's instituting stiffer penalties to protect infrastructure ranging from international border crossings and 400-series highways to municipal and provincial roadways and pedestrian walkways. Non-compliance will now be punishable by fines of up to $100,000 and up to a year in jail, Ford said. Ottawa Mayor Jim Watson pleaded with the Ontario government for help to deal with the ‘lawlessness’ caused by the protest convoy, but grew frustrated with the lack of response. Ottawa Mayor Jim Watson says the city did not have the police resources it needed to handle last winter's anti-COVID-19 restriction protests - and it wanted swifter help from other levels of government. "We needed help," he told the commission Tuesday. "We lost control in the red zone." Watson,said he began pressing the federal government for more police resources after the first weekend of the Freedom Convoy protest. Peter Sloly, the chief of Ottawa police at the time, was looking for an additional 1,800 bodies to help police the crowds: 1,000 regular officers, 600 public order officers, 100 investigative officers, 100 civilian.

[@WalterHildahl]

I'm an American. And after what Trudeau did to the truckers, I was almost awaiting the Anti-Christ to reveal himself as a Canadian.

[@tammyrobinson5249]

I was locked out of my bank account because I gave $10 bucks thru give send go for our truckers. It took me 3 months to get my account back and when I did I had a zero balance too. We near lost our home.

[@njcanuck]

Wow I didn't know people had $ seized. In old days the newspapers would have been right on that. They will disappear in a few years. Have you got your money back? Some organizations might help you sue. Trudeau is a fascst. Ont and Que keep him in power.❤

[@barryj388]

Not one MP that voted to invoke The Emergencies Act should ever be allowed to hold political office again, but I have my doubts that most Canadians will hold that against them. I know I will!

[@jamiehershon]

I know nothing about how the Canadian government works but I would think it would be an abuse of power to do that to peoples' bank accounts.

[@cosmicdragon]

It would be except it was an "Emergency power" to prevent a riot/ coup during a pandemic. The thing their not talking about is this was the trucker convoy that was holding the capital hostage

[@DontSlamCoke]

​@@cosmicdragon🤡

[@Achonas]

​@@cosmicdragonlies. They were actively in negotiations with the opp to move out when the little dictator activate the emergencies act. Which btw is only supposed to be used when there is a national crisis that can not be solved through regular legal processes. Like terrorists kidnapping and killing politicians.

[@hellotheresunshine]

@@cosmicdragonyes, they were terrorists. But JP keeps running around not fully telling the truth.

[@nayman2801]

@@hellotheresunshine Terrorists... because they honked? Get over yourself.

[@EM-KeepingtheFaith]

UK citizen here. Dr Peterson is spot on. We were horrified that this was even possible in a Western country. That decision to harm his own citizens stripped him of any respect abroad. Such a gross abuse of power.

[@cynthiarose5927]

What Canadians fail to understand is that there are a number of individuals and institutions that will no longer due business with Canadain financial and other businesses. Assets and contracts are at the whims of one individual without recourse.

[@LeeZaslofsky]

Bullshit. Canada's economy is doing fine, thank you. You are making stuff up.

[@jodyrichardson876]

My 10 year relationship with my birth mother was destroyed over me supporting the Truckers and her believing that not only Trudope was doing what was necessary because of covid and people who didnt follow the mandates deserve what they got...We couldnt be more diametrically opposed...Still, i wasnt the one to cut ties so i felt like i was given up twice 😢

[@aliyamea]

Sorry to hear that. She lost twice.

[@jshepard152]

That's crazy. At least you know you stand for something.

[@mrnour852]

Are you blaming this on JT as well?

[@HoboKa_AlexShtokalko]

Wow, your mom let politics be the reason to disown you? She must be emotionally glued to the idiot box. I'm glad that cable TV is dying. It's literal eye/ear cancer.

[@jodyrichardson876]

@@mrnour852 JT is a WEF puppet and no, not directly...My Bio mother is brainwashed like the other people who have been manipulated by lies and not discerning enough to research anything...I don't even blame her, she's just asleep and believes everything she's told...Just sad she chose to cut me out of her life over bs propaganda

[@ZhaliaBloom]

It's still absurd how so many Canadians did not see anything wrong with and were not shocked by it but supported it, it was beyond appalling and even the media didn't even bother to question it, it that whole thing is a horrible stain and the fact that many fellow Canadians don't see it that way is even more troubling! PMJT has been awful as PM and sadly there's no one promising either among the parties for various reasons but one things certain Trudeau needs to go before he sows even more discord across the country!

[@LeeZaslofsky]

There was plenty of "questioning" in the media and in Parliament. But everybody knew that Canadians wanted the convoy stopped and the truckers sent back where they came from. There was a Public Inquiry and there were trials for some of the "leaders", and there all the arguments for the Fuck Trudeau Convoy were made again and again. Canadians were annoyed and disgusted with the Convoy and wanted it stopped and sent home.

[@bobhoskins124]

@@LeeZaslofskyaka u dont care about those ppl They just need to work for u and stay outta ur way hahaha

[@ZhaliaBloom]

@@LeeZaslofsky a handful were annoyed, the ones in that 3-4 block radius, the trial was a joke, government is full of yes men hail Trudeau 😒

[@LeeZaslofsky]

@@ZhaliaBloom The trafic system in Ottawa was disrupted. The shops on Rideau Street, including the Rideau St. Mall were closed, costing many workers three weeks pay. The neighbourhood around Parliament has a sizeable population; these people were subjected to loud noise and other disruption, including having to look elsewhere for their food and other needs. That is why some residents went to court to seek and injunction, and the injunction against noise was granted. You say a "handful" of people were annoyed. It was a lot more than handful -- anyone who normally drove on Wellington St. faced major disruption because of an ILLEGAL occupation of a major thoroughfare by people involved in aright wing stunt under the slogan "Fuck Trudeau". In other words, an UNJUSTIFIED disruption of their lives. There were a number of trials i which the "leaders" of the convoy were charged with various offenses; they had good legal representation but were found guilty as charged and penalized. The Inquiry was public, the Convoy insurgents had lawyers who were able to pose questions to the witnesses. The Prime Minister testified as well as officials, and were subjected to questions from pro-Convoy lawyers. Witnesses were under oath. Why was that a "joke"? Oh, I know, because your side was revealed to be a bunch of jerks, crazies and assholes who couldn't explain what they thought they were doing, or deliberately gave misleading answers. These were the people who were suddenly expected to receive, account for, and distribute the millions of dollars sent in by supporters, using their personal bank accounts and without telling anybody what they were doing with the money. Millions of dollars came from a foreign country, the US, where the MAGA nuts who normally send their money to Trump, sent it to the Convoy in the hope that there would be an insurrection like the one on Jan. 6. This was a right wing stunt. The Teamsters Union, representing truck drivers across Canada, wanted nothing to do with it. Their main slogan was "Fuck Trudeau", and they were mad not at "mandates", which were imposed by the provinces, but at Trudeau for winning the third election in a row. I won't dwell on the sickos who displayed the Nazi symbol or the nut job who paraded around with the flag of American Treason and Rebellion and Slavery. And NO, these symbols are NOT displayed at every demonstration that happens. Most Canadians were annoyed or disgusted by the Convoy, and wished Trudeau hadn't waited three weeks to disperse it.

[@LeeZaslofsky]

There were daily questions in Parliament, there was a lot of debate in the media. The Conservatives pandered to the convoy and used it as an excuse to scream at Trudeau. The Emergencies Act was approved by Parliament. It was in force for a short time, enough to get the convoy out of town and the border crossings open. No one got hurt,the police were gentle and polite. Two thirds of Canadians backed the Trudeau's use of the Emergencies Act because they were disgusted by the antics of the convoy, disrupting Ottawa, blocking the Ambassador Bridge, blocking the border at Coutts, AB. There was no excuse for any of that, and it went on and on and on.

[@jacccamo]

Governments should never be able to freeze or take anyones money.

[@andrewcrimmins8173]

it's been a minute, but from what I remember restaurants were shut down. a trucker couldn't pee or eat at a lot of places. then there were issues with international distribution. Like a trucker who delivers back and forth across the us canadian border. And some issues were short lived "short" but some of these things made no sense in canada like 1.5 years after the initial lockdowns they still had restrictions. so they were basically like enough is enough we have to be able to live and make a living again. especially us, the people delivering all you pompus city aristocrats with your iron fist in the business of every day canadians

[@oldtimer7979]

The only reason why the bank seizures stopped is because it triggered a run on Canadian banks. Interesting that this has not been reported.

[@thechuckjosechannel.2702]

This is why I Don't trust Banks anymore.

[@Paul-vf2wl]

Was this an imaginary run?

[@aranykert]

imagine when everyone starting to take money out of the banks! It's all imaginary! Everything was imaginary, because it was just unreal! So it is imaginary!@@Paul-vf2wl

[@lovechild9258]

I donated on “give send go” and I was (illegally) publicly identified and my business received death threats for donating and supporting the freedom convoy.

[@SH-jy6lc]

Death threats from those trudope shills 6x times jabbed obedient double masked boys n girls mean absolutely nothing. They have no guts haha Hugs, homie ❤

[@Paul-vf2wl]

You're lying lol

[@lovechild9258]

@@Paul-vf2wl I wish I was. I was never more afraid for my life.

[@SH-jy6lc]

@@Paul-vf2wl Why do u think the poster was lying? Have u seen canadians in 2021-22? News articles demonizing the unvaxxed? I personally heard co-workers saying they wished the unvaxxed d1ed.

[@SH-jy6lc]

@@lovechild9258 It was awful. I believe you. Ive seen canadians being extremely mad at the unvaxxed. It was fueled by the media.

[@mitcha1065]

protesting is not the same as occupying.

[@doilysimpkin6972]

I'm from the UK, and i'm not for one moment saying we don't have our own issues, we very much do, but when those bank accounts were frozen, i was absolutely gobsmacked. It's the most authoritarian, totalitarian act and until Castro...oops...Trudeau came to power, Canada would have been the LAST country i would imagine doing such a thing. Utterly shocking and outrageous.

[@georgewagner7787]

He is right, we have no idea about pretty much anything in Canada. We don't even learn about any of their history in school and were right next door

[@pkuudsk9927]

What realy still blow my mind is that some how 28% of the population still like him. No way that can be true someone is faking numbers in the poles

[@docriley7837]

I believe that # is 36% his approval rating anyway. Never underestimate the stupidity of Vancouver Toronto and most of the first past the post provinces

[@tunktrnder9957]

Dominion online "voting" machines fix just that, i think.

[@vivianoni9565]

A partial answer is many newcomers, perhaps the majority of them, support Libtardation. That's political motivation to keep immig. high in spite of housing shortages countrywide.

[@jdowell2009]

We are controlled by cities and cities like liberals. Most of their crazy policies make sense when you can walk to work and don't have to worry about animals attacking you.

[@ZhaliaBloom]

Trust me no one likes him but there aren't very good options either

[@dave99887]

Though I question how effective voting even is in Canada anymore, don't be a part of the problem. Don't bother checking that box if you elect perpetuate this absolute circus. Stay home. Brush your teeth and go to sleep. You don't deserve the right and privilege.

[@marysmith4811]

We wanted to go to Canada, but we won't be traveling there any time soon unless big changes occur. How ppl don't see what is going on, is beyond me.

[@TayR0C]

That's the power of all of our media brainwashing the population

[@MrBashem]

Most people here never research anything for themselves when it comes to the gov't. They just take what is fed to them by national news or friends who saw national news. If they watched news of other countries about Canada they would understand.

[@niennasaralonde7471]

We were talking yesterday - Germans and Austrians around one table - that it is extremely concerning how fast history can repeat itself. What happened in Canada and in our countries is the sad proof. 😢

[@joannewilson6577]

Yes and the prime minister of the province and the mayor of the city and the chief of police and 99% of the peoples in the city all approve it! How more could you need to move against an illegal siege of a city main road for one whole month?

[@scottsobon9256]

That is crazy they did that. It’s crazy they still can do that. They don’t care if we agree or not. We gave up too much power but people don’t see it.

[@joannewilson6577]

Yes and the prime minister of the province and the mayor of the city and the chief of police and 99% of the peoples in the city all approve it! How more could you need to move against an illegal siege of a city main road for one whole month?

[@scottsobon9256]

@@joannewilson6577 wait are you saying the truckers were wrong and mandates should be applied after studies show masks don’t help and those mandates where mere guidelines and not enforced

[@joannewilson6577]

@@scottsobon9256 The tuckers never said that wearing a mask inside was one of the important reason for there occupation of the roads in Ottawa for almost one month. They were against the USA and Canada asking by law that all the truckers be vaccinated to go from one country to the other....and already 85% were vaccinated. They were 100% anti-vaccination.

[@joannewilson6577]

@@scottsobon9256 You are wrong by saying that studies show clearly that masks don't help! Right now, what scant evidence exists suggests that the answer is unclear, according to the study published by the Cochrane Library, a collection of medical databases. Kevin Kavanagh, M.D., the president and founder of the patient advocacy group Health Watch USA who’s been closely following and analyzing the pandemic from the beginning, cited The Conversation in his rebuttal of the Cochrane Library’s findings. “Meta-analysis is a less than optimal methodology to apply to the issue of masking,” Kavanagh told Fierce Healthcare. “Almost all included studies varied widely in their methodology, since it is very hard to ethically have a non-masking control group.” Kavanagh noted that in some of the studies in the meta-analysis, individuals wore masks only part of the time and COVID-19 spread throughout a building. “Masks worn by an asymptomatic carrier also protect others, but this was not evaluated in most of the studies,” said Kavanagh. “Negative findings are not surprising in a meta-analysis with suboptimal research assumptions and which includes studies with widely varying methodologies.” Relatively low numbers of people followed the guidance about wearing masks or about hand hygiene, which may have affected the results of the studies.” Kavanagh said: “After all masking and public health measures stopped SARS-1 in its tracks in Toronto, I would view the Cochrane Library meta-analysis findings with a large degree of skepticism.”

[@scottsobon9256]

@@joannewilson6577 the masks were an example of the mandates that didn’t do anything. Are you saying the vaccine mandates where a way to go about this?

[@davidanderson8469]

I just returned from Maui. I mentioned that Canada has their own Biden. He agreed wholeheartedly and stated that Canada's not the same place as it was before Trudeau.