The War for Reality | Helen Joyce | EP 379

Ep. 379
What you are about to watch is an abridged version of the full interview between Dr. Jordan B. Peterson and women’s rights activist Helen Joyce. Due to content policies that could threaten our ability to use this platform, a 34-minute cut is necessary. Regardless, the conversation contained within is important now more than ever. If you would like to support freedom of speech and the free exploration of ideas, then please consider watching the full 2-hour interview on the DailyWire+: bit.ly/3KrWbS8
Dr. Jordan B. Peterson and Helen Joyce discuss the takedown of their last interview on this channel, the true tradition of women’s rights, and the harsh reality of what women stand to lose today.
Helen Joyce is an Irish novelist and journalist, acting as the executive editor for events and business at the Economist in London. Before this, she trained as a mathematician, graduating from the Trinity College in Dublin, before attending Cambridge. She then acquired a PhD in geometric measure theory at the University College London. She has held many roles as a journalist, working for PLUS Magazine and Significance Magazine, both of which have an emphasis on communicating complex math and statistics to the everyday reader. Later, she would spend three years as the Economist’s foreign correspondent to Brazil, living in São Paulo. In 2018, Joyce curated a series of articles on transgender identity, which led her to author the Sunday Times bestselling book, “Trans: When Ideology Meets Reality.”
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(0:00) An interim solution
(1:17) Coming up
(1:31) Intro
(3:19) Sex-based segregation
(8:57) Why not have freedom of association?
(10:59) The realms where the market does not go
(14:41) Consent used to be a thing
(15:21) J. K. Rowling: taking on the mob
(17:59) The act of speaking up amidst the silent
(26:52) The problem with homogeneity in journalism
(30:02) Sex Matters: focused on preserving the law
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[@aleyshawebb2813]

I relate with this so much. My own 27 yr old daughter has , for the most part, cut me out of her life except for the very occasional text or visit because I ordered the book by Abigail Shrier Irreversible Damage. I even tried to explain that I wanted to read it and make up my own mind about the Trans issue. She wouldn't even listen to my opinion and called me a Terf, Bigot, and Transphobe. I love her, but I will not be told how to think by extremists, even my own daughter. I won't be silenced and I thank you both for speaking the truth.

[@reddaB]

That must be so horrendous to deal with. And mortifying. One day she's going to be so embarrassed.

[@18henrii]

Stay strong, all the best to you and hopefully your daughter will someday work on her mental issues.

[@fullyfb3847]

That's awful. I'm around your daughter's age, and my parents recently passed away. I'd give anything to see them again, and your daughter cuts you out for simply being a rational person? That's absolutely insane. If I could say anything to your daughter, it would be to wake the hell up and leave the cult of dissociation...that's me being nice about it, too. 😡

[@aleyshawebb2813]

@@jseal21 I believe as you do. I was blindsided by the lack of respect and tolerance she showed me with a different view.

[@lesleymooney305]

She will come around

[@anonymoussteve7591]

“I don’t like bullies and I do like free speech”. My sentiments exactly!

[@Terri_Hugs]

It's a problem for me as an adult. Women have sports league just as men do. They should respect those boundaries. If you want a mixed league then set them up. We don't permit a person that is a physical strong but low IQ to hurt people in the Special Olympics. Because we know that someone physically stronger could hurt someone playing in a rough game. This is about Common Sense as well!

[@BruceStoufflet-yv3od]

If you knew about the military grade wireless BCI having free speech is nothing. The question is are the words yours? 60 years the have been social engineering with it. It is not fun when you discover it. It is a little fun after you stop crying and think about the possibilities Then it goes back to crying because they won't change how they are using it. Nothing is what it appears as. NOTHING

[@keithad6485]

Govt showed their bullying ways during the recent pandemic. I don't trust govt workers.

[@DetransLizard]

Detrans woman here. Helen is an absolute gem.

[@scubasteve2189]

Thank you for speaking out! We need so many more of you! 👍🏻

[@markkavanagh7377]

@scubasteve, don't worry about that, just give it time and there will be lots of them.

[@zelliglover2000]

gemerald??

[@opus3989]

De-trans? So you switched back to your given gender?

[@DetransLizard]

@@USAF-NGAD thank you

[@jamesclark6487]

She is not a "biological women's rights activist" she is a women's rights activist.

[@michelleduncan9965]

Well said.

[@jossfan]

What a fantastic woman Helen Joyce is. Every time I see her and listen to what she has to say, I feel that sanity and truth are being defended by an unimpeachable warrior, a fiery intellect and the warmest of hearts.

[@ruthtodd6022]

Well said!

[@johnwest194]

well said!

[@bluesky45299]

liberalism is built upon two ideas: maximum freedom and maximum equality. Both of these ideas are erroneous because human behavior has to be restricted for the greater good therefore negating maximum freedom. Maximum equality is not possible due to differences in knowledge which establishes hierarchy. We must subjugate ourselves to law of Allah(the most exalted) who has totality of data, therefore being the only one that has the right to legislate.

[@criticalcommenter]

​@@bluesky45299haha that's pretty funny

[@criticalcommenter]

@@RadiantStar8997 haha it just gets funnier.

[@mikepoppjr]

I just canceled my youtube premium I've had for 10 years. I've had enough of this nonsense .You do not deserve this treatment. I will join Daily Wire.Thank you for all you do. I've learned a tremendous amount over the years from you and I really appreciate it.

[@Cotictimmy]

Helen Joyce is one of the most rational, articulate, & clear-eyed social commentators currently on the internet. I’m a big fan. ❤

[@halimaalhiane9284]

❤

[@FuckYouCuckFaggotCensorStasiSc]

too bad the censorstasi at jewtube made them cut over half the interview for telling too much truth.

[@mikeswanson6145]

KZbin should hire her for their new hires/ employees orientation classes

[@zeno2501]

I love Helen. No exaggeration. So gently courageous and lucid.

[@wilts43]

WONDERFUL! May I implore the KZbin censors NOT to take this down. This is an important piece of journalism & debate in a society in dire peril of sliding into totalitarian thought control. If you have an ounce of integrity, tolerance or fairness in you let people speak.

[@andreawierzbicki9187]

The problem is they DONT have an ounce of decency or desire for truth

[@JohnSmith-yc6uv]

The youtube censors are TRYING to make society fall into totalitarian thought control. How do you not understand this?

[@JamesHughes-up9zn]

KZbin will eventually cave in because they don't stand for anything, unlike X's platform is to enhance free speech.

[@mr4nders0n]

You can implore until you implode, utube won't listen, they're a load knicker pissing, hysterical, cokless, spunkless, mass-debaters.

[@ianpetersen2307]

Thank you Dr. Peterson & Helen for doing what you do. You both are a great benefit to society and I hope you continue. I hope KZbin does not censor you.

[@KentaPenta64]

Gosh! Helen Joyce - what a beautiful, courageous, intelligent human being!!!

[@Lawofimprobability]

Helen Joyce is so great a speaker that I subscribed to the Daily Wire just to listen to her. I know there's other good Peterson interviews but she was the impetus.

[@mayevor8588]

Helen’s book is a must read!! Switching to DW+ now. But I recommend to you all to read her book.

[@GrandTreeChunker]

Thank you for still posting this on YT. It's an unfortunate dilemna that I can imagine is hard to deal with. I'll be going over to Twitter to watch the uncensored version, but I wouldn't have seen this video if it wasn't posted in part to KZbin as well. Wish you the best Dr.

[@hagalhagal9989]

Is he still posting on Rumble?

[@GrandTreeChunker]

@@hagalhagal9989 I haven't made the switch. I just have so much I watch on youtube that isn't being censored, that its not realistic to use rumble as my main video platform yet and switching between 2 is annoying, which is why I made this comment. I hate what youtube is doing with censorship, but they're still big dog right now and are basically Netflix for me.

[@BoojayDeeth]

Where is the interview on Twitter? I couldn't see it on JP's feed, or is there a video section?

[@anomietoponymie2140]

Could we get a link, please, to the interview on Twitter. I'm sorry, I really can't afford to subscribe to The Daily Wire.

[@yargum69]

I listened on spotify. The full interview was fantastic!

[@davidsfuntimes9899]

I love Helen's spunk and grit in standing up for basic truth. Her candid sincerity and honesty,without demeaning anyone, is truly admirable. Just solid research.

[@johndutchman]

Awesome ! Helen is brimming with common sense and the ability to speak it.

[@kate60]

Correct

[@lookdawg187]

Have you ever seen a man's rib turn into a woman? Christians promote delusions, that's why their children are now saying men give birth, in the realm of God anything is possible, God can turn clay into a man, and have Adam give birth to Eve via a rib, man gives birth thanks to God... cuckoo.

[@ArtU4All]

I only wish JP STOPPED interrupting her and talking about himself.

[@Jackjohnjay]

What this will do is drive traffic to Twitter and Spotify. I’m heading there now! Thanks for having Helen back on!!! ❤

[@OccamsRazor393]

Wish he would post on r~mble they are out right (d)~eleting comments here!

[@peterszabo7572]

I'm not very good with finding stuff on Twitter. Do you have a link for the discussion? Thanks!

[@joane24]

I listen to most podcasts on podcasts app. I start the video on yt (the homepage recommendation algorithm is great on yt!), and if within 5-10 minutes I find it interesting, I move to podcast app (the amount of ads is insufferable, and also that you can't minimize the yt app/run the video in the background and do something else on your smartphone, also you can download for offline). Then I go back to yt for comments only😅. That's the only good thing the yt app is good for anyway.

[@John-uh8kl]

YT, go woke, no users.

[@philhersh]

Except the twitter video experience is poor. You can’t see the length, you can’t resume from the middle, and it replays over and over.

[@giovannamoro8564]

Love this woman and the great work she's doing for all of us women . Thank you .

[@annewrites...8385]

I am listening on Spotify, Jordan. Thank you for continuing to speak out and finding ways for us to hear. Thank you, Helen. All the best to you and your families.

[@kurtvanluven9351]

I thought that was a carpet cleaner. I'm behind again aren't I?

[@FuckYouCuckFaggotCensorStasiSc]

Same here. I wish he was still on rumble, but I enjoyed his opening salvo at the censorstasi here on ewetube enough to listen to it on spotify, I wish there was video.

[@mdgeroy]

A wonderful lady. A brave lady. We need more people like her in this world. God bless her. Of course Jordan is one of the best too.

[@craigdav9740]

Dr Jordan has changed my life. Mothers and fathers around the world should thank him for the work he’s been carrying on their behalf. As a first born whose father turned mentally sick, I know what I am talking about. I can existentially bring myself up and help the little community around me, at least my brothers, even uncles… (from what they tell me). So much love from Rwanda. Thanks Helen and Jordan for your work.

[@bendietrees]

Much love to you brother ❤

[@robynmarler1951]

God bless you both!🌻🌷xx

[@alisonancell6047]

Sending love from the UK❤

[@TraceyHenderson-ys2iq]

Most of our own homes have a lock on the cloakroom and bathroom, why should we give up our privacy in public areas? Crazy!

[@hugerleesooper1286]

Haha good one!

[@user-dw3wp1oc9e]

I never use public bathrooms these days. Means short trips though!

[@Woodburner100]

We’re truly living in a delusional world where The Emperors New Clothes is playing out for real. I never thought I’d see the day when people willingly allowed themselves to be coerced into going along with the “woke” mob. But here we are indeed. Thank you JBP and Helen Joyce. Keep up your hard work. Most people really are on your side.

[@criticalcommenter]

What side is that? Seems that they are in disagreement quite a lot.

[@mr4nders0n]

​@@mountainjeff yeah it's like being in the bloody twilight zone, (true) liberals are becoming conservatives and the lefties are fascists. Feels like eating at Chinese restaurant the way the table is turning.

[@merylmel]

I think they're both on the side of reason and open, respectfully discourse. I agree with you wholeheartedly. The emperor is starkers!

[@NotNowCato1254]

Helen is a shining light to be proud of on this side of the pond. What is amazing to me is that she has not only weathered the woke storm since publishing her book but seems to be truly thriving on the challenge. One tough cookie 👏

[@Lakoda26]

I really disagree with her that men's sports can be open to women. I have actively avoided, my entire post-puberty life, expressing aggression towards a women. I am not willing to engage in a sport with a woman where controlled aggression is required. Not going to happen. As a woman I don't think she gets it. As men, we've done a poor job making our case for our spaces as well.

[@Lakoda26]

@@icatherineMe yes, and its seems to imply women are incapable of having political discussion in women only spaces.

[@SelenaSea]

I agree with you (woman here)! Jordan's response to her view on that, with a good example from his own childhood, showed just why men's sports being open to women is problematic, too. Crazy that we've got here, isn't it?

[@celerywarrior6493]

Jordan would have been better off to scrap this episode & put his wife on to give her take instead --- "Women invaded men's spaces so badly & this is part of the blowback" Jordan's wife is correct. Women voted for equal rights because they thought their would only be positives & no negatives. Now some women want equal rights + special privileges, which isn't equal rights. Do men get any special privileges? Yeah, I thought not. - Men have got to help women with this problem they & their 'sisters created', so those same women can have more time to spend tearing down more men's rights? HARD PASS!

[@MaleOrderBride]

I agree! I'm a gay male who has been a huge advocate of Joyce previously...but this interview has completely changed my mind about her. She is a massive hypocrite: she demands Females must always always get their own spaces free of men...but in this interview, she casually dismisses Men's rights to have our own Single Sex sports or Gentlemen's Clubs. Very disappointed in her...

[@AmyMaris]

Note her example was anecdotal and of prepubescent children playing cricket.

[@Virvepaulina]

I stand by bathrooms and changing rooms for women only. Who the hell came up with changing that?

[@madeleinegrayson8372]

The woke army.

[@lisaclark6134]

Helen is so beautifully articulate. A joy to listen to.

[@johnwatt2748]

Jordan needs to stop obnoxiously interrupting people

[@chelseapoet3664]

@johnwatt2748 I agree. And I'm a fan of his otherwise.

[@BobbyJetty1502]

Truly wonderful content. So spot-on especially for a 49 year-old father of two daughters. One that's 27 and one that is 25 yes my wife and I did have our children early as a choice. However, it is now affecting my relationship with our daughter's on account of they feel that their mother is more open to the conversation on this front then their father, who is a seasoned musician and professional athlete for my basic entire young adult and adult life. Keep pushing forward please for the plain fact that there is right and there is wrong. God bless you both

[@zi_nyc]

What a treat, this is an absolutely delightful interview, even if edited. Mercifully there is a full version on former Twitter, now called X. Pure joy to listen to these two brilliant minds converse -- freely. Thank you and may God bless you for the courage to speak the truth.

[@John-uh8kl]

One more brilliant than the other. Face it Jordan you're running a good distance behind, saying that, this woman perhaps says she doesn't understand, WHERE all this comes from? Oh RIGHT, I SUPPOSE THAT'S OK. !!!?!!!!!?!!!!

[@rvalerio77]

Must be so nice to be friends with Helen just to have someone that can enlight the conversation with deeper thoughts and opinions. I found her super intelligent and sharp about the subjects discussed, going not only with an opinion but scrutinizing in it.

[@Boldstrummer]

Very smart women

[@alexisjordan707]

"... I'll put that on my damn youtube channel in a second." Hooray! Thank you Dr. Peterson.

[@gabbygutierrez1885]

This conversation was really great. It was so truthful. It was like a breath of fresh air. Thank you Jordan.

[@elcapitanjack911S]

Wow! I agree 100% w/u about Jordan..Fresh breath of oh so truthful air!! Have u checked out Dennis Prager,Larry Elder...now even the Repub candidate Vivek R. seems like a real truth teller IMHO.

[@atheladyinthenorth7125]

Such a Good discussion. Thank you Two very smart, logical adults really laying out some facts and wisdom.

[@rhondasisco-cleveland2665]

Thank you, for being reality based, and speaking actual truth, that isn’t colored by current standards of “normalcy”. We need more brave truth speakers, who are educated and kind.

[@deejay8ch]

An intelligent and articulate woman standing up for what's right... in these tragically ridiculous times of course she's an enemy to the powers that be. How far we have fallen. Thanks for 34 minutes of common sense prevailing at least.

[@lookdawg187]

Anyone with common sense would reject the delusions of religious, yet here we are still 2000 years later, where people believe some clay statue named Adam, his rib turned into a woman called Eve, because invisible non-existent fairy dude did it. Talk about Cuckoo.

[@briank10101]

While I agree with her and Jordan on the topic here, it is unfortunate that she became atheist after being raised Catholic. If truly atheist, then why would it all matter?

[@deejay8ch]

@@briank10101 maybe in the case of Catholicism vs Atheism, the latter is the lesser of two evils ;) - I'm just stirring - forgive me for my sadistic streak. Let add a more considered response in a day or two (and probably delete this provocative little niggle).

[@bobhope5114]

All of human history has been tragically ridiculous...obscene .

[@danx1216]

Disagree. Only providing 1/2 of a coin. JP reenforces it. REmind the great Joyce that many many men are victims of Domestic abuse! It's very revealing how she ignores this very important issue!!

[@davedogge2280]

Sports changing rooms, department store changing rooms and public restrooms, JK Rowling has the rest of the list and quite rightly so.

[@samanthawhang7498]

All girls schools, domestic violence centers, homeless shelters for women and their children.

[@-whackd]

I lived in countries in Asia where the people aren't fat and retarded like North America, and they had unisex washrooms at basically every restaurant. It was just that a restaurant was allowed to have a toilet and sink with a door rather than building a 2 million dollar building with 5 mandatory handicapped spaces etc because of mentally ill building codes. Therefore they could have more restaurants and more affordable food and culture. In sports, the issue is that nobody cares because women suck shit at sports. The US gold medal winning women's soccer team routinely loses against 14 year old local area boys teams. Nobody cares about female sports, they're about as important and relevant as the special Olympics. The Special Olympics is there to make the "special athletes" feel good about themselves, and that's what we are doing with women's sports. Making some little girls feel special. But let's not pretend they're actually good at anything. Every conservative who pretends this is an issue is an extreme hypocrite who has never watched an hour of the WNBA. If you spend money on the women's sporting league, for example you buy LPGA tickets, then maybe you should have a say. Until then you're a hypocrite who doesn't even watch (because the "athletes" suck shit--since they're women).

[@hallur7523]

This woman is such a pleasure to listen to doesn’t really matter if you agree with her or not … superbly intelligent

[@jaydeeh77]

Facts! 💯 I love listening to her!

[@joeyalen275]

I’m not being critical but I would like to remind Jordan Peterson that he once said the main problem with censorship is that it leads to self censorship… slippery slope is all.

[@brianlynch8292]

I only read mein Kampf BECAUSE it was censored. IT DOES NOT FUCKING WORK. We as humans are built to WANT to be curious especially when told NOT to do something

[@dane.5360]

It's a relief to hear both of your ideas out in the open and together none the less!

[@thomaskoppenhaver2758]

Thank you for sharing your wisdom, Mr. Peterson.

[@megaloschemos9113]

Keep up the good work Mr Peterson and Joyce. Your voices are so important.

[@sendtoanthony]

The Thought Police at KZbin sent me a warning yesterday threatening to not allow me to comment anymore on videos because I had engaged in something they referred to as "hate speech" in some comment I had made. The KZbin censors didn't inform me which comment of mine contained the "hate speech" but they threatened to close my account if I committed anymore of this "hate speech". However my tongue is mine. A man determines for himself what he will say in any context, according to his own values/goals, as determined by the reason of his own mind. I have no intention of modifying my words to conform with anyone else's standards.

[@JustAnotherChannel100]

Great talk about a very important issue. Very informative. Thank you for covering this topic.

[@siya_checking_in]

"Marketising sentiments that are morally sensitive" - brilliant summary of the current state of things by Helen J! What a delight to listen to her. Just to add morals are driven by social norms, which are set by communities through religious beliefs and practices. We are now (in the past 5 or so decades) getting more and more detached from the moral norms as religious practice, belief and disciplines fade away (or are eroded into through negative publicity by the legacy media). Youngsters do not want to identify with a religion or culture, especially in the West. Second generation migrants are still bound by ties through their families who retain the values within families however this is also slipping away. Morality is being ruled by norm-setting through a clash of social media influencers, celebrities, entertainment/media which normalises certain types of behaviours.

[@JSiracusan]

I agree. I think this has happened many many times in history. Especially during wars, where one area is conquered... suddenly have to adopt new social norms. We are in a new kind of war with the technology. Social norms and morality are being questioned and patterns cataloged and used at an increasing rate. They tear down the fences without even knowing why the fence was there in the first place or knowing what kind of effect it will have down the line. I read yesterday that native american shamans used to try to foresee the consequences of their decisions down 7 generations... that's a kind of ideal of super consciousness the western mind never really had. So, here we are on the freight train... it always seems to lead to only one thing eventually... war.

[@DocJon1]

Another amazing discussion, thank you Dr Peterson

[@the_grand_tourer]

It's been 5 days and you are still here ! I just watched your long conversationwith Chleo Cole ... also binging on anything I can find with Helen Joyce.

[@katk6039]

I've been on Daily Wire + for the last year and love listening to Jordan's podcasts without any ads. And it's not just Jordan, Candace Owens, Matt Walsh's documentaries are brilliant. I can't recommend it enough. You don't have to entertain the KZbin Gods deciding what you should hear or not...

[@mr4nders0n]

Well, that depends upon disposable income doesn't it

[@maryleslie9102]

Sad to see our biggest bookseller chains not displaying Helen's book. Shame on them.

[@impossibleagent3663]

Helen Joyce again!? Dr. Peterson, naughty boy. You're on a collision course with youtube? I'm gonna watch now

[@frgnvola]

😂

[@ArtByHazel]

What a joy to listen to you both talking about the current situation that we’re going through right now. Silencing people is a major issue right now. Please keep talking about issues that matters to all of us. Women are still thinking of safety, privacy, dignity, and consent. Why can’t we have difficult conversations and find solutions to what’s really going on in our society right now? Canceling people who are truth tellers isn’t the way to go. We’re all connected and bleed the same. 😢

[@John-uh8kl]

And we all know about, ESG, the Great Reset.

[@Hidinginyourcupboard]

It's a real problem for society that facts can't be stated without complaints being raised

[@newscienceofphysicalhealth2934]

Facts..Jordan is a pompous clown show..who makes up lunacy

[@michellehudson6865]

Love the "I'm having a ball" great to hear Helen. You've worked tirelessly & deserve to be having fun. I don't think I'd like to know what you know & I've been down the rabbit hole & that's enough. Thankyou❤

[@sandrasteiner8374]

Thank you for mentioning the families that have it in their house. Yes its very isolating. The result is I've walked away from friendships. I'm not totally silent but I'm very thoughtful about who I reveal this information to. I'm also very careful about how I communicate this information. Most people automatically think they know what you are thinking when they hear you are a family of faith with a family member navigating this issue. They try to push the old "Pepsi Challenge" of ideas on you. They can't seem to wrap their mind around that there could be loving families that fundamentally disagree on a topic but that truly love each other and that can remain close. All my immediate family have grown closer because of rejecting the Pepsi Challenge.

[@cassiopeia21]

She dismisses men's reluctance to compete with women too easily. It's far too simple to claim men just don't want to be beaten by a girl. The reality is males are terrified to hurt a female. Even if a woman the size of Mike Tyson stepped into the ring with a man the size of Scarlett Johansson, if he hit her back at full force and actually hurt her....he would never live it down. No matter what she said, no matter how passionately she demanded him to not hold back. Same is true of every sport that requires physical effort, even cricket. If a man throws a ball and it injures a woman, he would be demonised. But with all that said...even if men were completely fine with giving it their all against a woman and the only reason they didn't want compete was because they didn't want to lose...so what? Why is that an unacceptable reason? If it is a male standard and falls within their expectation of dignity, who are you say that they should have to go against that? You spoke at length about female only spaces and why one reason is dignity. Well, why are you the only ones allowed to advocate to keep your dignity intact?

[@skeelatheskink8724]

A man not forced to fight a woman. He can say no.

[@cassiopeia21]

@@skeelatheskink8724 yes I know, that is what would happen if they made sporting categories as women's and open. Men just wouldn't play if there was a woman present.

[@MaleOrderBride]

Amen!!! Helen's dismissal pissed me off. I used to be a huge Joyce fan...but this interview didn't make me like her. I thought she was an advocate for Single Sex spaces for both men AND women. This interview proves she doesn't give a shit about male privacy or male spaces. She thinks women should be allowed in all Male Spaces...but Joyce demands that Females always get their own spaces?! She's a massive hypocrite...

[@tilapiadave3234]

@@cassiopeia21 make ALL sports "open" ,, it won't take long for things to self correct. It is men's fault for allowing women's only sport ,, niceness often backfires

[@robroy6072]

Shes a dyed in the wool feminist in denial about womens role in rolling out trans She will be a footnate in history if that. you caught the misandry in the cracks. Good on you

[@relaxationsleep3478]

I am a Romanian , touching 40years , living in London for almost a decade . I have been a bohemian and a hippie and still am to a large degree ; I have lived in communes and squats , I have experimented a lot on all fronts and always have tried to be fair and open minded . I can safely say that what is happening today in London ; and by extension Western culture that creeps in all over the world , definitely true for Romania, is utter and complete madness, Babylon decadence and at this point as horrific as it may sounds I believe a war between the West and East ( US /China) might be the only way out achieve some manner of balance It is not an exaggeration to say that I feel myself just loosing my mind (previously being someone who would always make sense of things ) within London society If you are not LGBT advocate you have no life in London It's a tragic state of affairs I beg more of you to stand up to this madness

[@John-uh8kl]

Well. 100% everyone agrees. And if you were to be a 'm----m', practicing taq---a, e v e y o n e, would, does know, uh,? Ouch ok gotcha. Remember anyone can read what you write.

[@John-uh8kl]

Jordan, say it, 'You've no idea whatsoever about what going on.'

[@YoursTrulyTwentyNinetyFive]

It’s a tragic state of affairs that Millennials collectively, with their massive Echo Boom numbers, changed the spelling of LOSING to LOOSING. It’s so cringe

[@southbay1279]

Thank you, Dr. Peterson, for making this content available. 🙏

[@MatthewEGolden]

Helen Joyce is awesome.

[@harolddecapodian2308]

This format is the right solution, as this is the second time I have left the KZbin platform to go find the interview in its entirety. Keep up the good work

[@lilmoi8820]

I’m glad to hear Helen Joyce is having fun. Joy is infectious and the work she’s doing is greatly appreciated!

[@mr4nders0n]

"joy" is infectious, and there's me thinking it was laughter 🤣

[@michaelterry1000]

I think your solution is the best (edited version on KZbin/ full version available elsewhere). It takes advantage of KZbin's huge platform to tell your audience where the unedited versions can be found.

[@nick_yt23]

Phd in mathematics shows in her impeccable ability to think critically. Now compare this very important quality with the reasoning displayed and pushed by people studying ,,social studies “.

[@ZPB2882]

О, вы не знаете, как после 1995 года в украинских школах максимально сократили часы математики, потому что "математика-это москальская лженаука".

[@gabadaba5824]

You do understand that Jordan Peterson studied psychology, a science commonly recognized as a social science……..

[@francisbertolini2538]

Hear hear!! Thanks for your courage, both of you!💪🙏

[@primrosegoldprimrosegold1265]

Thank you for bringing Helen Joyce on again. I bought her book and she put into words all the things I couldn’t articulate but I knew something was wrong (I’d lived in the far east for 20 years) I also bought it again as a birthday present for a girlfriend. I’m part of the free speech union in Britain. Looks like I’ve got to give more support!

[@mr4nders0n]

There's a free speech union in Brrritain ? Flippin' 'eck, sign me up!

[@mht5875]

Speaking as someone who graduated from a women's college and have a BA from History - and read a lot about social history - historically, women and men have always had their own social clubs and groups. It's not just all about restrooms and locker rooms. Common sense, due to the USA's historical social gender structure.

[@robroy6072]

Who dismantled all that? Spoiler, trannies were VERY VERY late to the game. Carry on.....

[@dawnt7664]

I have yet to watch this, but I know it will be a wonderful interview. I just want to reach out and thank you dr. Peterson, you have been so important to helping me raise my boys, to become moral young men. In a world where they are the bad white men, they needed a real example... thank you for all you do....

[@ameliaannhouck2670]

ONLY BAD WHTE MEN WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU???? EVER MEET A BLACK MAN PREDATOR ???

[@JoeawesomeandBerlin]

Already listened to the full interview on Spotify, but figured I'd come give you a view and a like, Dr. Peterson! Thank you for promoting and exercising your right to free speech!

[@user-fo6gm5fl4d]

I truly wish Helen Joyce had been my math teacher in primary school. In less than two minutes she sparked my interest with her enthusiasm and clarity.

[@ashleyboyd2764]

I wanted kids so badly but maybe not having them right now is okay too...

[@nanetteparratto-wagner1127]

Thank you for letting us know that this is the edited version. I'm watching it on daily wire instead

[@iant9868]

Jordan, I’m binging a few of your new videos tonight and can’t comment on DW. I think you need to take it easy on the religious front. I don’t mind it and was raised Catholic and see value it it. However, I think your mind is resting there and that is what you jump to. Yet, it isn’t always the best response. From a true fan, keep speaking truth brother.

[@georgek2499]

What a great conversation. I listened to the long version and can’t believe KZbin would censor this. Such a loss for KZbin users.

[@John-uh8kl]

You tube go wo--, no users.

[@RAFIKI2029]

Big up Baba yangu. Ubarikiwe sana! Tunakupenda sana!

[@amanihajar-el8655]

I regard you both. Thank you for your bravery, no non sense, taking a stand on the world's greatest illusions. May God keep you and continue to guide every guest you have on. God Bless you All!

[@tomtom21194]

I have a lot of respect for Helen. She appears so fearless.

[@sorrykay3450]

I listened to the original discussion before it got removed - that was excellent and exhaustive and covered her research for her book Trans - I'd have to see the unedited version to judge this discussion.

[@emcarnahan]

The audio-only version should still be avalaible on Spotify and Apple

[@hugerleesooper1286]

Thank you both!

[@danelcutler6467]

Thank you for posting this, and I hope everyone stays positive

[@Room511]

Two of my most favourite people in the world! Always a pleasure seeing these videos!

[@siya_checking_in]

God I love her view on everything! People who are more removed if they did general studies- rather than specific studies such as Maths/ History/English.. just spot on! So much respect for her 😍

[@synge1351]

Glad you mentioned a full unedited version on daily wire. Heading over there to hear this important conversation. Thank you for all you do on this front Dr Peterson

[@hitherefriends3943]

Love Helen! Going over to watch at DW+ so I don’t miss anything. Edit: Just checked and the video is only 34 minutes here and over 2 hours on other platforms!

[@chickenmonger123]

I’d suggest it. The extended conversation is worth it.

[@rachelbass7914]

Thanks!

[@dcitennison5911]

So clear, so intelligent and so out there. Thank you.

[@DolphinJett]

Thank-you for creating this podcast. I'm very intrigued by its' potential contents and I'm going to listen to it right now on Spotify!

[@starne0n]

Absolutely love and praise God for Jordan Peterson. If any one person would move their material off KZbin to another platform and change that dynamic it would be Dr Peterson. Rumble perhaps

[@peacockLife]

thank you both! I am surprised that women's rights have gone down the hole again

[@extremeresponsibility4325]

And its women flushing women and women's right down the toilet. Why?

[@mmkriley]

I just appreciate this interview so much with Helen Joyce..

[@electronicfarts5105]

Jordan, I just want to say thank you for being you. I listen to you 30 mins to and from work. Your words speak truth, even though it is harsh...... it's true. You say things how they are and it's a rarity now.

[@stellans.2146]

Thanks for the heads up Dr. Peterson. I prefer the whole conversations and not the cut down ones. I like to judge myself what's appropriate or not.

[@Sophie-P]

Jordan, thank you so much for releasing this (and all of your productions) on free/inexpensive platforms. It means a great deal and can reach so many people for good- but I also appreciate the struggle that comes with the world we live in now... God bless you and keep you.

[@Cabby298]

Bless you Jordan, we need you, society needs you, remember you have great intelligence and your discussions reach and touch a greater audience! You have a great role to play in this life, you're a very strong soul! Keep up the amazing work! We love you dearly ❤🙏👌👍💪💯💫

[@rmk90]

I listened to the podcast of the full interview; very insightful woman. It's ridiculous that KZbin won't allow cutting edge content like this.

[@alexc3096]

She's so great. I'd listen to her anywhere. Listened to this whole thing on Spotify.

[@Cornjoelio5]

The daily wire version was great. I recommend the subscription.

[@charismatandy3387]

"She just said I don't like bullies and I do like free speech!!"

[@peg75]

3:22 love the deadpan sarcasm. It’s amazing the humility of people that are serious, but don’t take themselves too seriously

[@alexbcurry]

I’m a chronic KZbin user. I am also a daily wire member. I’m so glad you’ve been starting your posts by reminding me to go to the daily wire :) I do wish the daily wire app was set up as a “feed” like KZbin.

[@anybodyoutthere3208]

Is it a pay app the DW?

[@user-zg3rg3ng2k]

I used to be another cog in the economic wheel, working a regular day job, day in day out, not really knowing how the future would look like, until I met the lady who is the CEO of Vayroko. I experienced an aha moment. I couldn’t believe how she managed to quadruple my net worth in just over a year. I feel like I have wasted away so many years of my life slaving away without a dependable financial plan.

[@user-kc1wd6qe7v]

Wow. This is something I would like for myself too. What’s her name?

[@user-zg3rg3ng2k]

Maria Victoria Caicedo. She is an advisor based in the US and the CEO of Vayroko. Why not look her up and see for yourself. You can write their support for enquiries. if fin ancial genius was a person, she's the one!

[@rajeshrajan6200]

Impressive. This might be a good fit for me as I am planning to retire early. Do you think she can handle a mid sized account and how does she charge her clients?

[@user-zg3rg3ng2k]

I would guess yes judging from the size of my account under management since it's a fairly large one. you can still send her an enquiry to know exactly what terms you guys can work with. I can only vouch for the results I've seen. and to think that I've seen so much in after tax gains is what marvels me the most.

[@user-kc1wd6qe7v]

Ok thanks for this. I just found the company and sent them a request. I will be waiting for their reply

[@wifeinthebin]

Alice Cooper has refused to back down and apologise for his common sense comments. He deserves credit for this.

[@fattyz1]

Thanks I’ll watch the unedited version

[@correyflynn]

I am giving a like before even watching it because I know I'll like this video already because you (Jordan) are a brilliant speaker that always makes my mind bright up with wonderful thinking. Thank you.