Frigidaire FHWC253WB2 25,000 BTU Air Conditioner | Initial Checkout

[@psychedelicnarwhal9599]

The foam pieces are for the side panels for insulation. Also I couldn't help but notice that Michael Porter has returned to your comments box, good luck with that.

[@airconditionerfanatic0880]

Nice video of the air conditioner. A fun fact about this air conditioner is that I believe that the manufacturer of this unit is different from the 10000 btu Frigidaire that you have in the garage. The temperature up and down buttons on this 25000 btu unit have a grey border around the arrows while the 10000 btu unit doesn’t have any grey borders around the temperature up and down buttons, just white. The control panels also have some different buttons. The side and top vents on the exterior of the 25000 btu unit have a more round shape than the 10000 btu one that has more of a squared side vent design seen on GE units not made by haier. They both also have different remote control designs. Also, the 10000 btu unit has R-410a while the 25000 btu unit has the r-32. These are just some things I would consider sharing.

[@JordanU]

The manufacturer of the 2 units is the same. It's clearly marked on the informations tag.

[@GannDolph]

I bought a previous version of that unit (was r410a) several years back when my central AC had a major failure. I set it on 60 degrees and it ran continuously for over four months no problem. It got temperature to 75 but with very low humidity thus very comfortable. It had a GMCC rotary compressor which had a buzzsaw sound that was slightly annoying. You need to mount the sleeve and insulate it well and block the air gaps with dense materials like two layers of wood with a layer of high density sound deadening in between. Not flimsy curtains or featherweight foam. That will keep that nasty compressor noise on the outside of the house.. By the way you can't compare the energy ratings of window ACs to central AC / heat pumps. The ratings are different. SEER vs. CEER vs. EER are all not the same.

[@JordanU]

The machine itself has no sound barrier from the noise outside, it's just a thin piece of Styrofoam. A blanket should have been put over the compressor if such a cheap noisy model was to be used. All those energy ratings are a joke anyways, they're nothing but a scam to try to sell more new units.

[@GannDolph]

@@JordanU Blankets are not suitable for rotary compressors as it causes them to overheat...

[@JordanU]

@@GannDolph That's not true, compressors are self-cooled by the returning refrigerant.

[@GannDolph]

@@JordanU that's true for scroll and recip compressors, whereby the suction gas flows around the motor windings prior to being compressed. In a rotary , the suction gas first enters the attached suction accumulator, where much of its cooling energy is lost. From there it goes straight into the rotary compression chamber(s) at the bottom. It does not flow through the shell or over the motor windings . Once compressed , the high pressure compressed gas fills up the entire shell and flows over the motor windings, then out the discharge line at the top. The motor in a rotary compressor is cooled by a combination of discharge gas (*NOT* return gas) and air over the shell. You will not find rotary compressors with sound blankets from the factory , nor will you find reputable makers of blankets marketing them for use on rotary compressors as opposed to reciprocating and scroll.

[@JordanU]

@@GannDolph The rotary compressors are cooled by the flow of the refrigerant. They are not air-over devices. They can be completely isolated from all airflow, as seen in the design of thousands of pieces of equipment, and maintain reasonable operating temperatures.

[@Ocrefrigeration91]

Have to say for this size you should have gone for the LG Dual Inverter 23500 BTU, I have one and it’s a beast! It can ramp up too 28000 btu and blows a impressive amount of air, and it’s been pretty reliable for being modern. Kept my 1200 sqft apartment at 65 in 115 heat.

[@JordanU]

I stay away from the LG brand, I've never had a good experience with their appliances.

[@xtheslump]

Where did you buy yours at

[@jnbond]

I'm needing a slide in wall unit and lots of reviewers on several different sites have said their LG ac was not good/reliable and wouldn't recommend.

[@JordanU]

@@jnbond Generally speaking, LG Is not a reputable brand.

[@vho_ilrsnc]

It looks like a very good sized air conditioner, I hope it works well and lasts a long time.

[@Alco16-251F]

My Uncle has the 18000 BUT Variant of this Unit, and it's an R-22 model with the Hichly Rotary compressor, blows ice cold. This is the only Equivilant of that machine that my Uncle was thinging about of it should ever fail, I will recommend this unit to him. Anyway, great video, I liked it.

[@jnbond]

My 1985 Carrier 22,500 btu 220/230 just stopped working. Finding a 1:1 replacement has proven difficult to find that is reliable and works well. I am hopeful this is a good unit. Looking to purchase one. In my research there is a downloadable instructions and video on installation on the web for this unit that I watched before seeing your video. Thanks for sharing.

[@JordanU]

Stay away from this, it's nothing like your old Carrier. Unfortunately you will not find a comparable replacement. None of the units made today are reliable and none of them will last anywhere near as long as the Carrier equipment from the 80s.

[@LemontTheFanMan]

Good video bro I like the Royal blue fan blades and the startup sound also can’t wait to see it in the window this summer I enjoyed the video bro

[@DIESELISGREAT15]

I must say this the unit for the first 2 years with me I had to get rid Of it due to an excessive amount of mold and mildew

[@JordanU]

Drilling a hole in the case to let the water drain out should cut down on the mold significantly.

[@DIESELISGREAT15]

@@JordanU it came with one but the 2 year was spiting water all over the place thx for replying 😊

[@fordmuscleluis9710]

Good video bro on the initial checkout of this Air conditioner I enjoyed the start-up sound of the compressor

[@JordanU]

Thanks

[@Xyspade]

I've never seen such a proponent of vintage air conditioners buy more new ones than a typical consumer lol

[@WalterKnox]

I was thinking the same thing. I would have made something work.

[@WalterKnox]

I am interested to see how long it will work for though with a drain hole and if taken care of properly. I see no reason why this should have a pre mature failure. As far as modern units go, these are pretty okay.

[@JordanU]

This was purchased out of necessity. I would prefer vintage, but both my vintage machines that would work for this room are temporarily out of order.

[@ArisBuliteanu]

@@JordanU can it also be installed in the wall?

[@ArisBuliteanu]

@@JordanU to see if your airflow is weak, first, check, if there’s a dirty air filter, or a frozen evaporator coil, or blocked condenser

[@perrygravesjr6893]

Just bought the 12,000 btu model last week. Pretty powerful for a 12k. Bought it for the reliability.

[@JordanU]

My modern standards these seem decent, but they're abysmal compared to the units of years ago. Even this 25,000 feels to me like a 12k from the 1980s.

[@perrygravesjr6893]

@Jordan U right, I get what you're saying. I heard you explain in a different video as how bad the new age compressors are compared to years ago.

[@Dubby522]

I have one of those and it works good it just squeaks a little after a few months

[@Alco16-251F]

Damn dude that's a nice one! Thing's huge.

[@JohnSurf5]

I just got a 8000 btu with the temperature sensing remote. For it to work properly the remote has to be able to communicate with the air conditioner. If the remote gets turned around on the desk or wherever you have it the air conditioner will default back to just regular cooling. Took me a second to figure that out.

[@JordanU]

I noticed that with this remote as well. It really should have been an RF remote rather than IR.

[@JohnSurf5]

@@JordanU i’ve also had to disconnect the sensor on the air conditioner from the coil and move it off to the side, as it is too sensitive and immediately will turn the air conditioner off if not using the remote sensor.

[@brunoshow124]

This is built using the old WCI chassis design which was a very well designed unit. We'll see how well the modern components work long term but from what I've seen l these units seem to be fairly decent.

[@JordanU]

I recognized the design, and the disassembly pains that come with it. It seems like everything is pretty conventional inside. These do seem to have a reasonable reputation, I was just extremely unimpressed with the volume of air the machine seemed to move.

[@brunoshow124]

@@JordanU Unfortunately weak air movement seems to be common on a lot of modern units. If they have strong airflow, typically the fan is extremely loud. Very sad situation if you ask me.

[@German_byte]

I’m enjoying your air conditioner videos. Intelligently and thoughtfully produced.

[@JordanU]

Thanks for letting me know.

[@aspinthereddragon9302]

I have to ask, if you say all modern window AC's are terrible, but not everyone can obtain a vintage window ac and if you do chances are they're rusted or leaked refrigerant,. In your opinion what would be the best modern unit you can buy at a local Lowe's or home Debot

[@JordanU]

I think the Haier Serenity Series is the best option at this point. My testing has not been running for long enough for me to say how long it will last, but performance and noise level are excellent. I wouldn't be intimidated by the large quantity of brand names and models available today. There are only a small handful of actual manufacturers, I'd say less than 5, that make the things. You can find the same machine sold under 15 different brands. They're all poorly made, choose one at random or find the best sale. Even the most expensive and 'high end' units will be replaced within the decade. If you only need a small 5,000 BTU, get the most basic model with mechanical controls. The electronic controls are generally awful, the machine in the video lets the temperature of the room fluctuate by 7 degrees or more at times, which is the difference between being comfortable and uncomfortable.

[@aspinthereddragon9302]

@@JordanU which brand you would recommend between 12,000 BTU and 15,100 BTU units that run on 115V

[@MarcP5267]

I’ve had one for a couple of years. Seems like it isn’t blowing as hard as it did. Any recommendations?

[@JordanU]

The blower wheel could need to be cleaned.

[@JRJStacks]

My 25000 btu frigidaire from about 2018 stopped blowing cold last summer and I am now looking for a replacement. What's the best new one I can buy? These new ones don't last for me. I have an old carrierr 25000 still working and I have been through 3 Frigidaire units. Please help...??

[@JordanU]

All the units made today are junk. None of them last. Finding another old Carrier is your best option. I have a 27,500 Carrier from 1988 which I'm using in place of this.

[@MarcP5267]

My late 80’s Air Temp stopped working last year. That thing was a beast of a unit. Would freeze you out.

[@Garcias888]

You need a 240power outlet to fully used it at 100% isn’t it ?

[@JordanU]

I don't understand what you're asking. It's 240v equipment, it operates only on 240v.

[@delta_cosmic]

for a 25,000 BTU it seems disappointing, but also not surprising considering what era it was made in.

[@JordanU]

It is disappointing. Doesn't feel much stronger than a 12,000. I don't expect much anymore, but even this fell below my expectations.

[@firefone8127]

They do still use R410A.

[@CG-1000-T]

R410a is actually getting banned as it is actually a greenhouse gas. Is going to die a similar death to R22 and R12. Both are great refrigerants but it is sad that they are now dead Freon types, but r32 is about as good a R134A if not better. Trust me, I have used R12 refrigeration systems to cool down water, it works very well

[@JordanU]

I don't believe any units like this are produced with 410 anymore.

[@Rayray_unicornplayz567]

The problem is the water helps it to cool down the condenser

[@littleshaolinschannel2012]

But it will rot the condenser which is not good.

[@JordanU]

The problem is not the water. The condenser temperatures are not unreasonable. There are plenty of areas in the country where this is sold that have dry heat. There will not be enough condensation to fill the pan in a dry environment. The unit must be designed to operate without it.

[@ILiveInAVanDownByTheRiver]

Compressor didn’t sound so good there at the end.

[@JordanU]

It doesn't sound good ever.

[@flurflurpuppy]

14:20 😂

[@JordanU]

What about it?

[@flurflurpuppy]

The AC told you what to do and you corrected it 😂😂

[@Daniel_S.284]

I like Frigidaire products, so this should be OK

[@JordanU]

They're junk now.

[@donavonmacallister3101]

I got a dud. This is the worst ac unit I have bought. And it is a lot of work. Whatever happened to simple?

[@JordanU]

Are you sure your unit is a dud? I think these are just abysmal.

[@jnbond]

Ugh. I'm sad to read this as I was hoping this would be a good unit as I'm having a hard time finding a replacement for my 1985 Carrier slide in wall ac.

[@JordanU]

@@jnbond Repair the Carrier. Those units were some of the best machines of their time. I ended up replacing this unit with a 1988 Carrier.

[@juanabrams2300]

28:10 voy a comprar el aire acondicionado frigidaire ese

[@JordanU]

OK

[@thatfeeble-mindedboy]

While it eventually becomes hot after sitting in a hot metal case for a while, the water that is condensed on the cold evaporator coils is usually pretty cold… at least at first. This is where the dehumidification function of these type units takes place. In most systems, all of the cooling potential carried by that water is just wasted. You say some things that make me wonder if you don’t fully understand this part of the process… Passing the refrigerant through some copper tubing immersed in this water in addition to what the compressor and the condenser coils do should really help. I would really advise against disabling this part of the air conditioner… I have long wondered why that cold, basically distilled - water isn’t captured before it becomes contaminated and sprayed or misted onto the condenser coils in a little bit more sophisticated way than having the fan just splash some onto it.

[@JordanU]

Whatever gain in efficiency the water produces is not worth the rust and ultimate failure of the unit it causes.

[@OliverOllie-wi1kr]

Ok cool

[@JordanU]

That doesn't make sense.

[@Butchey24]

I don't think it's cool. I think it's scary.

[@Butchey24]

@@JordanU I don't get paid to answer commentary either.

[@ArisBuliteanu]

20:20

[@JordanU]

That doesn't make sense.

[@waltknox]

Hey Jordan, I am so very glad to see that you are finally upgrading those old energy hogs you have to something modern and efficient! by doing this you are helping to save the environment, and putting harmful emissions in the rear view! Also Jordan, These new units use R-32 refrigerant, which is so very great as it has very little environmental impact! These are certainly great units, and I am sure it will work so very well for you! Not only do these modern units save the environment by not using harmful CFC refrigerants, they are also highly efficient, which helps the environment, but also saves you money! One thing though Jordan, I would not drill a hole in this! The unit is designed so that water builds up in the pan, and then a wheel on the condenser fan called a "slinger" helps to throw the cool water over the condenser coil, and the compressor! This helps it to run cooler, which helps it to preform better, run more efficiently, and last longer! If you drill holes all in it, the unit will run hotter and with higher head pressures, which will cause it to nor preform as well, run less efficiently, and fail in short order due to overheating! Porter Porter black ! Porter Porter black

[@stevethefanman8955]

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[@waltknox]

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[@stevethefanman8955]

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[@stevethefanman8955]

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[@zenozer0themechanicalchann720]

I hope that’s a joke. You would be lucky to have that unit not explode in 5 years. I had a modern unit before with r32 refrigerant and it DID NOT LAST o n e cooling season! I’m looking for a ventage unit with r22 that will last longer then modern stuff! And not drilling a hole will cause the coils to rust out and leak the r32 out!

[@edhirsch7748]

Never ever buy a Frigidaire 25,000 BTU A/C. They're a huge disappointment. I am now having to replace one I bought and installed 6 years ago. It has never worked satisfactorily. I've hated it since I first turned it on. Now it's not working at all.

[@JordanU]

I agree, the performance of this machine ended up being a total disappointment. The temperature regulation is very poor and it doesn't provide anywhere near as much cooling as would be expected for the rated capacity. I ended up using a 35 year old Carrier unit in the room instead, it keeps the temperature within 1 degree and blows this thing out of the water in terms of cooling power.

[@erikthiessen4449]

​@@JordanUI just installed this same unit and I honestly can't even tell if it's working properly. The display turns on and then it blows less air than my 8000 btu in another room. If it's not defective and this is how these ones normally run, then I am highly disappointed as well

[@JordanU]

@@erikthiessen4449 I agree on the airflow, it's abysmal. The amount of air it puts out feels similar to other 10,000 or 12,000 BTU units I've used.

[@0xggbrnr]

I can’t believe I tried to take the styrofoam out. The instruction manual is pure garbage. It says to take out all the internal packaging. First thing that comes to mind when I see styrofoam is packaging. Why the fuck… COME ON.

[@JordanU]

The whole thing is pure garbage. Get a vintage air conditioner instead, they're made so much better.

[@0xggbrnr]

@@JordanU good to know. I got this as a gift from my parents. I’m struggling to put it together based on the instructions and I’m losing my mind. I’m actually thinking about taking off from work.