Jorge Martin's route to the MotoGP title is weirder than you think

[@michaelsanders3395]

You guys are starting to hit a stride with these videos. Keep them coming, please!

[@nicka3526]

We need MotoGP to keep growing. You guys are the best with all of your coverage, videos, and podcasts. Keep it up. I tune in every week just for you two.

[@ianjohnson1207]

A few other Motogp channels on KZbin, streets ahead of this

[@whassupg89]

Love how you’re in the way of the Pramac crew in this vid 😂 👏

[@Toro_Da_Corsa]

Guy was like "why the f*** are these guys standing here ffs"

[@aumpauskar4653]

Tbh Simon's shirt of satellite riders cannot win championships was hilarious

[@ChristopherZarate-g1s]

I think Ducati have no choice but to take Marquez into the factory team, they have all the data and know what Marc can do, he won 3 GP on an old bike and the next GP23 in half his points tally. Gigi knows that if Marc left for like KTM and they produce a decent bike in 2025, then it will be difficult to beat him and they didn’t trust Pecco enough to do that job.

[@elemenopikyuarestiyuvi]

right man, being a Factory rider isn't all about winning the Championship but also helping on developing the bike and with Marc Marquez, Ducati knows he's the best man that can do it both

[@FLANKER4242]

Exactly...

[@marcos7106]

If MM93 is so good at developing bikes, why is the honda so bad now?. It was Pedrosa that developed the bike. When honda let Pedrosa go the bike development went down the toilet, with MM93 doing the development.

[@elemenopikyuarestiyuvi]

@@marcos7106 there will be no discussion like this if Marc has not been on that career ending injury (no factory rider no bike development) and with COVID, Honda was stagnant in 2020 which led to there problems now. Pedrosa may have been with Honda for a long time and been there first before Marc means he's the only Rider who developed the bike. Marc Marquez and Honda were the most successful partnerships in MotoGP history and I don't need to repeat the numbers for you.

[@ZhakariasGarcia]

@@elemenopikyuarestiyuviMarc is not a good developer. He has admired to it, paraphrasing “ If a part does not improve my time but makes other riders worse then is good for me”

[@Rodrinki]

A friend had mentioned what Martin had done to KTM but I had never heard any insight into it. Appreciate you guys touching on it!

[@ajaystyles8369]

exactly… at a point I thought KTM shenked.. never knew he was the one that opted out 😮has a free agent

[@Showmetheevidence-]

I have nothing against Pecco, but I'll so glad Martin basically gave Ducati the finger by winning despite their stupid decision to not give him a factory ride.

[@dominicrusho]

Awesome video guys. Your content is great

[@alexbentley4087]

what a pair of dudes

[@brdllc]

😂😂😂😂

[@bachenbenno]

The lads

[@kariymchristopher6986]

I rooted for him from day one, but as an MM fan, I had to agree with Ducati holding on to MM. The only rider on a gp23 or any other bike on the grid giving peco and JM consistent competition was MM. Now remember, this guy denied Ducati and Dovi for a couple of years, the title and still on Ducati had a bike for the past 8 years capable of winning the title but MM was the man standing in the way. The start of this decade showed it was inconsistency and mistakes why they were beaten to the titles. Not discrediting the other manufacturers and riders of their titles, but Ducati knew if it took such little time for MM to adapt to their bike and looking at Pedro on the KTM and AE on the Aprilia leaving MM to be snatch up by rivals could bring an end to the domination. MM scored majority of Honda points in 2019 to win the triple crown.

[@MRKTV14]

I actually don't know if a switchback to Ducati in 2027 would be exactly the cleverest thing to do for Martín, due to the fact that the rules and bikes will change fundamentally in exact this season. Would be very frustrating if Aprilia comes around with the better bike than Ducati and Martín is siting on the slower one again.

[@stevecam724]

Ducati is not a charity it's a commercial company that must make the best choices it sees, not what dimwitted people like Crafar think. Matin and Bastianini were both effective riders and the decision came down to a more emotionally stable Bastianini. Bastianini got wiped out early in 2023 and he never really got his footing right after that. As for Martin vs Marquez it's clear Ducati looked at the data and looked at the star power of Marquez and said commercially we have to keep this guy on our bike because even if he can't win a championship, he will be a fantastic draw card for Ducati with fans and sponsors. Personally I think it's Martin that will regret not riding the GP25 next year because the Aprilia is nowhere near as competitive. I also think KTM is going to regret Bastianini in 2025.

[@servethesongs]

You lost me at dimwitted Crafar... THE GUY KNOWS 1000 TIMES WHAT YOU DO LITTLE ANGRY KZbin WARRIOR FOOL

[@stargazeronesixseven]

😊 It's very satisfying to witness somebody being looked down & snubbed at the beginning to be crowned World Champion of his discipline in the end! Always happy to see an Underdog make it in the end just like Suzuki MotoGP Team & Joan Mir becoming World Champion in MotoGP 2020 season! Vamos Jorge Martin! One of the Highlight in year 2024 for many MotoGP fans! ... 😊🙏🌷🌿🍎🍊🌎✌💜🕊

[@SaadKidwai]

Great video, thank you!

[@brdllc]

He absolutely got snubbed twice by Ducati. It’s absolutely insane. Yes I know we all gotta drool for Marc and bow down but give me a break dude. Saying this is anything but getting snubbed is just part of being a super fan of Marc.

[@magyare10]

I tend to agree.. but I think Ducati.. looks at Jorge as the Bike doing most of the lifting of his success... Davide... even said... if he wins the championship its with our bike...

[@geese7484]

Although I feel bad they didn’t give Martin the seat, Ducati would be stupid not to give it to Marquez.

[@Redmongoose-rdm]

Well didn't he do the same thing to KTM. JM is doing what he thinks is best for his career and also Ducati is doing what they think is best for them. Hence why he is trying to get on what he thinks is the best.

[@loud_v8_noises]

This comment is insane. Ducati has all the data - they know Marc was competitive on a GP23 bike that was 0.4 sec slower per lap than the GP24 and Marc was still learning the bike. Martin and Pecco’s performance was topped out. What you saw was all you were ever going to get from them but with Marc it was clear he had room to grow and get faster even though he was nearly matching the GP24 guys on inferior machinery. It sucks for Martin but the choice was clear as day if you actually understand the situation.

[@cereal-killer4455]

Gigi d’allignia said what marc does with the gp23 is “inexplicable” The guy who made the bike thinks what marc is doing should be impossible. How can he not sign him?

[@allschool1980]

Martinator was simply underrated, Hell surely make something Big about this and motivation for Him It will surely a headache for rivals

[@jaywoo5545]

I would have loved to have seen JM rev limit the GP24 to failure out the front of their garage and had it back after his title winning GP :D

[@davidciesielski8251]

Thanks fellas, I learned a lot....Well done.

[@zlm001]

Thanks.

[@florentinojrdelrosario3856]

he got rob last year…..there is a incident involving bagnia and instead of giving him penalty…they let it go…

[@ognjenvlahovic3195]

When l listen this guys it seems Pecco got his 2 titles for free.

[@bp7178]

It's such a misnomer to call Pramac an independent team. They had full Ducati factory support and had the latest spec GP bike.

[@servethesongs]

WRONG... they had factory support, not FULL support.. Jorge had about 1/4 the amount of engineers Pecco did.. Maybe think first before posting dumbcomments??

[@ianjohnson1207]

Pramac have been an independent team since 2002, yes they had 2024 Factory bikes So does that also make Tech3 a Factory KTM team

[@tajmahachii]

Simon standing all quite like a statue for a minute.

[@mukulyoutub]

For 2027 Ducati will not be as competitive

[@LushmanGB]

In regards to the first independent team champions, What about Valentino Rossi’s 1st championship in 2001

[@ChristopherZarate-g1s]

It wasn’t MotoGP, it was 500cc. MotoGP era started with the 990 4-strokes. And Rossi’s team is hardly independent, it was full Honda backing with former Mick Doohan crew chief Jerry Burgess and crews. Jorge only got a full factory bike but it is run entirely by an independent team.

[@steviedinho7477]

💯 Rossi was the first independent premier class winner in 2001 on the nastro azzurro 500cc Honda which at the time was the premier class in MotoGP.

[@ianjohnson1207]

⁠@@steviedinho7477 No he wasn’t, we all know it wasn’t a satellite team, it was a one man team set up by Honda because they already had two riders under contract in Repsol Honda

[@charleswinter1335]

I hope he uses the number 1 at Aprilia, even better would be if he is compatible on the Aprilia....

[@raykarena4595]

Well done young man, well done Jorge

[@urbanstrencan]

He would definitely deserve factory seat sooner, but I'm actually glad that he is going to Aprilia so the best riders are better spread between teams, Acosta KTM, Jorge Aprilia, Marc Ducati, Fabio Yamaha ❤❤❤❤ And the Race MotoGP team great video keep it up with great podcasts and videos 😊🤟🤟

[@DrTortoiselle]

No Val, Jorge Martin is the 2024 motogp world champion EVERYWHERE.

[@timrobinson6569]

Nobody mentions the elephant in the room 're Martin becoming a Ducati works rider..........he's not Italian

[@mignik01]

Let's be honest. Ducati isn't shaking in their boots at the prospect of Martin leaving. It is a nice story but this championship was gift wrapped and hand delivered by Pecco to Martin.

[@TRexHeliPilot]

Ducati better increase their budget for building bikes as Marquez loves to toss them down the track!

[@casefarley5744]

I hope he takes the number 1 plate with him to Aprilia. He earned it.

[@kieranturner9014]

Think marquez is gonna run away with this season but hopefully (wishful thinking) acosta can give him a challenge. Might be a bit harder on a bike thats more then likely going to be underdeveloped compared to every other bike

[@servethesongs]

Is Simon having a boy or a girl? congrats on your new baby Simon! ,.. looks like it might be twins!

[@QF_Dan72]

He's not gonna defend his title on the Aprilla

[@larryt.atcycleitalia5786]

"One lap is his strength" makes sense for a guy who won the 2024 title mostly from results in the "Silly Saturday Sprints". Hard not to wonder if his ego will bite him in the a__ next season as he tries to force his way to the front without a Ducati. Simon Patterson is "Mr. Woulda/Coulda/Shoulda" lots of hot-air about stuff that didn't happen with zero way to know if it ever would/could/should happen. Hindsight is always 20/20, how 'bout some predictions (that we can come back and review) for 2025? Will #93 wipe-the-floor with everyone as his fanboys loudly predict? Will it be Senna/Prost in the Ducati factory garage? Will #93 send Borgo Panigale down development dead-ends (with results like HRC's recent disaster) in a few seasons or will they listen to Bagnaia and the others?

[@lastgentleman8099]

Nastro Azura and Valentino Rossi were the first champions in the independent class in the top class end of story.

[@ianjohnson1207]

Nonsense, a full Factory Honda team in all but colours

[@FlipWarBucks]

You guys are in the way. 😂😂

[@ianvillasenor5452]

He could have swallowed his pride and stayed pramac and win it again. His the fastest and consistent ducati. I dont think he can make magic on Aprilla bike.

[@lightningllama]

Pramac was most likely leaving Ducati for Yamaha anyways

[@cactitiger]

@@lightningllamaI doubt they’d have left if they could’ve kept Martin

[@ajaystyles8369]

why would you stay?? When you can get paid 4X of the money ???

[@funnyvideos.57]

So Martin is so notorious he broke a KTM CONTRACT??

[@ajaystyles8369]

he found an exit clause and took it

[@prasannabaruah3732]

I don't know why but both Simon and Valentin reminds me of Jay and Veeru from the movie Sholay...😅😅

[@caseyleonard1327]

Look at the tatas on Simon

[@loud_v8_noises]

Glad Martin won the title but let’s be 100% clear here Marc Marquez was absolutely the correct choice for 2025. The fact that he was matching the GP24 pace on an early spec GP23 bike that Ducati knows to be 0.4sec/lap slower demonstrates that Marquez was significantly more talented than either Pecco or Martin. Ducati leadership had the data from all their riders and knew the spec of each bike. Also, Marc still has room to improve as he only has 1 season on the Ducati whereas Martin and Pecco have ridden the bike for years - you know what you’re getting from either of them and nothing more. This was not a marketing driven decision because MM93 just flat out is faster than all the other riders in Ducati’s employ.

[@jimm4867]

Marc and Jorge 26

[@efrenmoran8098]

New motors new bikes in 2027

[@wss33]

Pecco is the 2024 world champion of motogp. 11v3 🤡🤡🤡

[@pd1648]

Quality video guys - engaging, informative - so many shit videos that drag on with BOLX

[@lastgentleman8099]

JM would never have been champion without the sprint format. Without the sprints Bagnaia would have won with 370 points and JM 337 points in 2nd. Not even close.

[@ianjohnson1207]

Ifs and buts count for nothing, if Pecco’s hadn’t made so many mistakes he’d be WC but he did and he’s not

[@cactitiger]

Martin would’ve done better in races if he had too

[@stoicthedog]

Interesting. Pecco would never have been champion if Marquez wasn't injured and Honda hadn't lost their way. Hooray for irrelevant excuses.

[@ardhianyu421]

so having 8 DNF's then blaming for the sprint format? what a smart diqhead you are.

[@ianjohnson1207]

@@ardhianyu421 What he’s saying if the sprints didn’t exist Pecco would have won the Championship, but they did. So he’s smarter than you for sure😉

[@_bstr_ct1832]

You know, I turned to MotoGP when F1 became an internet war between the monkey brains. But to my dismay it’s happening here too.

[@ianjohnson1207]

Is that because you’re here!

[@ajaystyles8369]

You will be shocked by the toxicity

[@ianjohnson1207]

@@ajaystyles8369 No he won’t it’s everywhere

[@moisesespino269]

Rossi won with an independent

[@davidrh6373]

I could be wrong, but wasn't that before the "MotoGP" branding for the championship?

[@Redmongoose-rdm]

​@davidrh6373 nope, you are right. That was back during the 500cc era. Rossi came in on the tale end of the 500cc era. He's on the rider to win Championships during the 500cc and 1000cc.

[@Stryker_-qd4nq]

​@@Redmongoose-rdmrossi didn't win on the 1000ccs, his titles came on the 990s and the 800s, all pre 2012

[@josthijsen-xz5ow]

Lawson also but back then it was the 500 cc championship

[@ianjohnson1207]

It wasn’t a satellite team everyone knows it wasn’t

[@sabref4i290]

Maybe do a little research he's not the first satellite rider to win a championship

[@miguelcebriancarrasco1907]

He is since the the top class is called Moto GP

[@Stryker_-qd4nq]

Maybe do some research yourself, the motogp era started in 2002, the last satellite rider to take the title was rossi in 01,on the 500cc bikes

[@ajaystyles8369]

😅😅😅your the one who needs the research

[@BasicTravel1]

You need to change that skinny presenter. Cannot watch him any longer. Also 0 chemestry between the presenters. Just not good enough. Keep it up.

[@johannessamuelsson6578]

I think it's better on the podcasts than in this video, although I don't see what you see

[@lightningllama]

He's great, I've been listening to their podcasts since about 2020 and Val's done a good job.