The radical MotoGP changes Yamaha and Honda are having to make

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The Race MotoGP

The Race MotoGP

Күн бұрын

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@dillydean
@dillydean Ай бұрын
Fabio stayed with Yamaha because they told him they would give him a better bike WITH a V4. He knew and now it's happening. Pretty cool. The V4 also is narrower which helps with the max width regulations which means! Aero can fill that space not bike.
@seashackf1
@seashackf1 Ай бұрын
By signing he guaranteed that at least this season and next are wasted as he’d have no chance at wins let alone a title. There’s no guarantee they’ll be there in ‘26 either. This was quite a gamble in the prime of his career, when he could have moved to a more competitive big and then have returned in a few years if they are competitive again.
@vijunair
@vijunair Ай бұрын
He only stayed for Money, KTM wanted him for his previous salary
@wIndstar47
@wIndstar47 Ай бұрын
@seashackf1 Yes, but Pramac is coming to Yamaha! That is going to change a lot of things at Yamaha. & before 2026 . . . . .
@MrSkeleton131
@MrSkeleton131 Ай бұрын
I feel like this era in MotoGP has similarities with F1 in the early 90s, regarding the engineering side
@farhanrahmaddani3218
@farhanrahmaddani3218 Ай бұрын
I see what you meant, so 2027 is gonna be 1994 with so many tech getting banned
@MrSkeleton131
@MrSkeleton131 22 күн бұрын
@@farhanrahmaddani3218 I think that's the hope of the FIM, but we'll see how it goes. 1994 wasn't a great year for F1
@rosstinelli
@rosstinelli Ай бұрын
Top notch video and information! Dude is literally in a car but the quality is outstanding 😊
@indexoverflow
@indexoverflow Ай бұрын
Really like these videos, keep em' coming!
@Scoots1994
@Scoots1994 Ай бұрын
What Yamaha did with it's road bikes doesn't really matter anymore the R6 is already off the market in Europe and the R1 is going away next year. Maybe a V4 roadbike can rejuvenate sales and their WSBK team too?
@otaviofrnazario
@otaviofrnazario Ай бұрын
I will have a hard time getting used to not seeing Repsol in the Honda bikes
@gravit8ed
@gravit8ed Ай бұрын
The fact that MotoGP will become more of a spec series than ever before is a true bummer, and you've got nobody to blame but the regulators. There's really no technical reason an inline-4 can't be competitive, under the right regulations, and now we've got to hope Yamaha can design and make an entirely new type of engine, taking them out of the mix for two or three years. I think I'd be more satisfied as a fan if I knew there were competing design theories that I might hypothetically see reflected in street products someday, but if everyone ends up making the same bike on the track...it'll be a boring future. I might have to start watching WSB at this rate.
@future62
@future62 Ай бұрын
Yep... I've been saying for years, ditch all the engine regulations and do a spec fuel + fuel flow limit. Ducati will always have the advantage with a displacement cap because their engine config is the most efficient all else equal. As an engineer I do really find it boring from the technical side
@jake88ci
@jake88ci 11 күн бұрын
THIS JAQPANESE MUST WIN AT ALL COST = BAN EURO MANUFACTURE INNOVATION AND TECH WILL DESTROY MOTOGP
@cristiandumitrescu1744
@cristiandumitrescu1744 Ай бұрын
Can you make a video about the in-depth characteristics of the new regulations?
@Crash276
@Crash276 Ай бұрын
Why on earth does anyone pay any attention to what Simon says ? Engines are frozen for all but Honda next year. Yamaha never planned to even test it until mid 25 and the V4 isn't the only engine they're developing.
@theBboyJoyce
@theBboyJoyce Ай бұрын
I can’t wait for Yamaha’s V4 engines. But I don’t think it’s the real problem. Honda, Aprilia, KTM all use V4s and they also seem close from the current factory Ducatis. I think Ducati is seeing the fruits of its labor with the Desmodromo technology. Btw I love The Race MotoGP. I can’t wait for the team to grow.
@bosu1855
@bosu1855 Ай бұрын
KTM has the strongest engine even without desmo.
@j.taveras8447
@j.taveras8447 9 күн бұрын
It's not a power issue, it's a technology issue. Ducati went all in on aero and they're so far ahead with the v4 development while everyone else just got complacent. The Japanese which were at the top for so long became complacent and those companies have other products and corporate bureaucracy that gets in the way. Ducati lives and breathes motorcycles only and they put all their effort and resources into just that. Now here is the results.
@urbanstrencan
@urbanstrencan Ай бұрын
Japanese manufacturers will need this big changes to get back on the top, will be interesting to see how will they kope 2028 new rules. Great video and great podcast The Race MotoGP team ❤❤😊😊
@davidciesielski8251
@davidciesielski8251 Ай бұрын
Thanks so much guys....
@danielpena-un8vl
@danielpena-un8vl Ай бұрын
Hoping that yamaha v4 m1 translates into yamaha v4 R1 in the near future lol
@dougiequick1
@dougiequick1 Ай бұрын
Yamaha also has a development advantage the other V4s didnt have in that Yamaha can COPY/reverse engineer a whole lot just off exterior visuals ....I'm sure there have been plenty of security slips over the many races that allowed images inside the wrappers so to speak not to mention rider recruitments and other folks...it might seem small but I think it could be a HUGE leg up for the right analytical minds
@RanjithKaranam
@RanjithKaranam 25 күн бұрын
With a good bike , everyone will start talking about Fabio again
@adambrown8867
@adambrown8867 Ай бұрын
Remember Honda RC51 coming in to dominate WSBK in the Ducati domination era of the late 90s or early 2000s?
@bosu1855
@bosu1855 Ай бұрын
With the arrival of espargaro and romano future looks bright for HRC
@therandomshow9994
@therandomshow9994 Ай бұрын
I need an explainer on the benefits of a v4 over an I4 cause idk why the v4 is so dominant right now
@zx6r98
@zx6r98 Ай бұрын
appreciate the content
@wIndstar47
@wIndstar47 Ай бұрын
I wish yamaha remains with the inline 4! That's what makes them more unique than any other bikes 🏍 on the grid. Why are Mv Agusta, Bmw & Suzuki not motogp is just mind-boggling . . . . .
@totzinfo
@totzinfo Ай бұрын
inline 4 proven to be rear tire destroyer that's why Yamaha shifting to V4 that saves life of rear tire, V4 also comply new regulations in 2026 and beyond that is more narrower front fairing compared to inline 4, also V4 has more linear and efficient power than inline 4
@totzinfo
@totzinfo Ай бұрын
because Triumph, Agusta and BMW didn't prove that inline 4 is a world beater for now against V4
@shivamarya5225
@shivamarya5225 27 күн бұрын
Racing too expensive too useless. Even world superbikes are too different from any road going bike, full carbon chassis and fairings, different gearbox, cooling, tuning. What's the point of racing if not just for show of who can throw the most money on marketing. If they put the same on improving production bikes then it's more beneficial
@mochabear88
@mochabear88 Ай бұрын
ty
@ilovelimpfries
@ilovelimpfries Ай бұрын
Closing the gap is not the problem, making racing exciting is. Ride height, aero, control tyres, these are the biggest problems in motogp. We need to get rid of them to come back with exciting races. What's the purpose of having 5 manufacturers close to each other when the racing is crap. Ducatis have shown us in the last race. Virtually the same bikes and the top 2 didnt battle at all, just managing gaps. Boring af.
@j.taveras8447
@j.taveras8447 9 күн бұрын
What you described as the problem is exactly what Motogp is, the pinnacle of motorcycle racing technology. Same as Formula 1. It's about competition and developing new ways to go fast which then translates into technologies consumers get, like quick shifters, aero wings, slipper clutches, radial brakes, tire technology, lighter components.....but you guys want them racing like it was the 1970s....and why stop there, just go back to racing donkeys, that's real racing, man and beast, no wheels, engine or any technology....smh. The racing isn't always boring, The top two who didn't battle? the last 2-3 years the winner was decide by the last couple races. Each rider favors a track, each team excels at a certain track. It's not Ducatis fault that all others don't invest into their technology. The japanese got complacent and are buried in bureaucracy. Look at Aprilia, one of the newest teams pulled in Formula 1 engineers to help with their aero, then KTM did the same. MotoGP is technology of speed, it's not just some guy rolling around w two wheels, it's the fastest man on the most advanced fastest motorcycle on the planet and how he executes that. in the 70s they didn't even drag knees, and now Martin is dragging a shoulder, Marquez uses the ride height to power out of turns, they are adjusting engine braking and break pressures on the straights...and now we have things like a six axis IMU.....that comes from MotoGP. Our street bikes are actually now safer because of it, things like wheelie and slide control.... Don't like it, I hear turtle racing is exciting, zero technology and yields zero benefit to daily life.👍
@basilwatson1
@basilwatson1 Ай бұрын
Cant talk about Yamaha Honda need to sack the middle management and change their training system Also, imho as an engineer , ducati has a nice combustion chamber they have spent money on development add to that the areo Riders leave honda because they see the writing on the wall
@marcusjones3588
@marcusjones3588 Ай бұрын
Val still not displaying enough Yamaha merch
@whassupg89
@whassupg89 Ай бұрын
It’s crazy how quickly they both fell
@queenslander954
@queenslander954 Ай бұрын
Not really mate , it’s crazy how long Ducati took to catch up & pass them .. Stoner showed them the way ahead years ago and they ignored him.
@queenslander954
@queenslander954 Ай бұрын
Yea they should just let Ducati have their own championship, which they do anyway & then have another for Japanese bikes.
@dougiequick1
@dougiequick1 Ай бұрын
Still just speculation that V4 configuration is the key Suzuki kicked butt with their I4 right before pulling out of motogp and V4 seems to help Honda nada bit (and for YEARS of trying like hell!) . Might be a big waste of diverted effort for Yamaha...or maybe they will get lucky just sorta starting from scratch again? who knows? It does remove the bothersome question at least...
@subaruwrx3381
@subaruwrx3381 Ай бұрын
Wing free
@hookmaster1109
@hookmaster1109 Ай бұрын
You guys know f.all….
@PaulMashlong
@PaulMashlong Ай бұрын
Is it true Simons banned from world endurance 😂
@corinful
@corinful Ай бұрын
Yes he was eating all the pies
@shinchand1980
@shinchand1980 Ай бұрын
Like phones camera lens and screens , seems Ducati will produce engines for the other manufacturers. What a joke. So all the manufacturers in the end will produce bikes that will look and ride the same. motogp is going down.
@asadallibhoy9206
@asadallibhoy9206 Ай бұрын
bro what all the manufactuers make there own engine
@Ignas2fly
@Ignas2fly Ай бұрын
Hey guys 👋I will tell what many people will reject or even be very mad. Last decade or more It is not about engineering or evolution of the bikes or best riders etc.: It is all about money!! The manufacture or team who pays more wins races and championships and if the rider is lucky you get to the team which will win. Unfortunately it is like that. And I am very dissapointed with gp or superbikes. I hope BSB is not like that.
@j.taveras8447
@j.taveras8447 9 күн бұрын
So you say that the person that puts the most work, effort and resources shouldn't "win". That's the dumbest shit ever. So in the olympics the athlete that trains hardest, invest in his training, puts the most research and spends money to better himself...that person shouldn't win??? No, instead it's best if we have a bunch of "athletes" the do as little as possible and just show up and just see which person does best based on luck. Cool!
@pascalrolla
@pascalrolla Ай бұрын
not an engineer but i don't think should yamaha switch to v4...suzuki left moto gp with a winning inline 4. and won a title in 2020.
@zelcpavle5494
@zelcpavle5494 Ай бұрын
Suzuki left because of that, and the engines V4 is faster...now with aero they can put all the power to the ground....years back you couldnt !
@pascalrolla
@pascalrolla Ай бұрын
@@zelcpavle5494 they left because of other reasons. There was a shift in management and they decided to leave
@KepleroGT
@KepleroGT Ай бұрын
​@@zelcpavle5494Suzuki left because the higher ups shifted priorities to cars. They've stagnated in the bikes division
@FlamingoLegsFilms
@FlamingoLegsFilms Ай бұрын
That was before the current aero situation.
@ahmengtune
@ahmengtune Ай бұрын
Like you said, you not engineer
@danielgreensides8463
@danielgreensides8463 Ай бұрын
My first time ever saying something like this...I'm not a troll or a complainer normally but, buddy in the the apple t-shirt that he found under his bed could def dress a little better 😂 when you're in the media and watched by thousands you should def wear your nicest shirt. Bro looks like a homeless guy 😂
@zarghamali5167
@zarghamali5167 Ай бұрын
V4 won't gurentee yamaha success KTM Aprilia Honda all have v4 but are not even close to Ducatis
@razvan-cristianlupu
@razvan-cristianlupu Ай бұрын
Switching to a V4 will not solve the problem, as proven by KTM and Aprilia. MotoGP has become DucatiGP. Something needs to change in the regulations. EWC is the benchmark, not even WSBK. Endurance racing is the most balanced.
@stuartstogdill2406
@stuartstogdill2406 Ай бұрын
Completely false. Aprilia was extrremely competetive this season.
@razvan-cristianlupu
@razvan-cristianlupu Ай бұрын
@@stuartstogdill2406Right... How many wins/podiums did they get?
@totzinfo
@totzinfo Ай бұрын
inline 4 proven to be rear tire destroyer that's why Yamaha shifting to V4 that saves life of rear tire, V4 also comply new regulations in 2026 and beyond that is more narrower front fairing compared to inline 4, also V4 has more linear and efficient power than inline 4, also because Triumph, Agusta and BMW didn't prove that inline 4 is a world beater for now against V4
@Scoots1994
@Scoots1994 Ай бұрын
I wish the aero would somehow be removed. It's a huge expense that doesn't really improve the show.
@dougiequick1
@dougiequick1 Ай бұрын
To be fair Honda unlike Yamaha (except 2T of course) has a long racing history with V4 racing 4 strokes....Yamaha? What V4 have they ever had other than a production muscle cruiser boat anchor VMax?
@subaruwrx3381
@subaruwrx3381 Ай бұрын
Yamaha have a V8 5litre outboard motor and ever heard of the Lexus LFA thats a Yamaha designed 4.8 litre V10 that revs to 9000 rpm....A V4 no problem
@hexenmotorsport
@hexenmotorsport Ай бұрын
Quartararon 2026 Moto GP champion. If he was on a GP24 he'd be the champion this year.
@shinchand1980
@shinchand1980 Ай бұрын
its all electronics now. and AI also probably in the line. probably robots will ride motogp bikes in the future..
@shivamarya5225
@shivamarya5225 27 күн бұрын
Nah they won't even ride it because environment. They'll just simulate racing on a computer between algorithms
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