Josh Allen MOST TALENTED NFL QB over Mahomes, MVP favorite after Bills beat Chiefs | Colin Cowherd

[@larry2281]

People offended over the truth. No one can do what Allen can do it. He’s an elite passer and an elite runner. Can throw it farther than anyone and drop dimes, he can also run by you or through you. The things Allen does on the football field is unreal.

[@Ineedrentmoney]

No one can do what Lamar does. No one can do what Patrick does. Your point?

[@larry2281]

@@Ineedrentmoney Allen can do what both of them can do and then some lmao.

[@Ineedrentmoney]

@@larry2281 it's actually the opposite. Mahomes and Lamar can factually say to Allen that they have done everything Allen has done so far in his career but Lamar and Mahomes can say we have done things Allen has never done. Lamar or Mahomes literally has more accolades than Josh and Burrow combined. Josh has never won a MVP, Josh has never been the passing TD leader, Josh has never made a first team All Pro selection. Lamar has done all of these things. Check their resumes and you will see that Josh is not in their league at this point. These are easily verifiable facts.

[@madjames2392]

​@@larry2281Allen can not do what mahomes does. Mahomes is special and unique. Josh is unique as well

[@pmcmva]

Correction: Bills won last four regular season games, three of which on the road.

[@whatscookingwithbigpoppi747]

Josh now has more rushing touchdowns than OJ Simpson

[@Hilarious_]

They give that title to a new guy every week .. Beat Mahomes When IT MATTERS 1ST

[@aliali-ce3yf]

this happens every season. media jumps on allen/bills bandwagon, crowns the bills and allen, and then they collapse in the post season . and every time its "this season its different" . they gotta prove it when it matters. Mahomes has 3 rings, he's the best until someone matches him

[@Clintob]

Bills have won 4 in a row in the regular season and all of them have been in KC until yesterday

[@jd229]

Ok allen is better than mahomes this year you cant put him at 2 behind mahomes who has 15tds and 11ints. Allen is the best rn. Fully admit he had a tough gane against bal and a bad bad game against hiuston which he still almost won. Lamar has 3 bad games and 4 losses. Mahomes has been rough all year. Allen is no 1 rn he makes plays no one else can and we just saw it again.

[@BoredAsf-ji5rc]

And then Mahomes scrambles and throws a side arm pass to win the game and he's the goat again

[@MKBayo]

Its statements like this that cause such discourse. Allen is fantastic, Lamar is fantastic. saying things like this only stirs the coals of fan anger more

[@NotMyActualName_]

And Mahomes has proven over and over that he's better than both of them. There can be more than 1 good player in the league.

[@peterwilson4865]

​@@NotMyActualName_because Mahomes era casuals give him 100% of the credit for a team stat (wins) while discounting important context in those last couple playoff wins. They're extremely marginal in the gaps between them and Buffalo has been way more injured come playoff time than KC, especially last year and they've barely scraped by Buffalo in each of those games. But sure he's SO dominant.

[@larry2281]

Nothing wrong with saying Allen is the most talented QB in the league lol.

[@keithcrook8591]

Allen will NEVER win MVP because the media seems to think it’s somehow disrespectful to Lamar or that it takes away from Lamar’s shine somehow.

[@misterbrown466]

Josh Allen is Phenomenal. But I have to say, I hate the narrative if Josh plays Perfect he’s the best QB, in the League. We watch them play to see how close to perfection they can be.

[@tysonstanger7712]

I disagree that Lamar sucks in the playoffs they were a Zay Flowers punch out from getting their super bowl ticket last year.

[@jd229]

Haha as if lamar didn't have a dozen other chances to score in that game he managed 10 pts allen has never scored less than 21 vs the chiefs. Pathetic

[@peterwilson4865]

They put up 10 points...

[@tonymac1224]

Umm Buffalo has beaten Chiefs 4 yrs n a row, first 3 in KC

[@JerymanicusNightingale]

Why the hell aint goff even in the conversation

[@Maal7432]

Come on Colin. You’ve been saying for two years Mahomes is the best you’ve ever seen. Gee wiz.

[@Deuce1042]

Josh has had absolutely brutal games in his career against the Jets nobody cares because it's the Jets and they're irrelevant by November lol. Acting like all of these QBs don't have specific matchups they struggle with and it's only a Lamar thing is disingenuous.

[@jd229]

Lamar has 1 win against the steelers josh is 8-4 against the jets. Josh has dominated every team in his division. The steelers havnt even had a good qb since Ben and they still kill lamar.

[@Deuce1042]

@@jd229 Records aren’t a QB stat grade his performance. Josh Allen has 14 TDs to 11 picks against the Jets in his career. And QBs don’t play defense.

[@jd229]

@@Deuce1042 and lamar has 1 win against the steelers

[@fillupsherman]

Lmao... here we go again... Allen is not even on the same planet as Mahomes. I dont care that hes bigger faster and stronger. He doesnt have the mind or personality Mahomes does, which is what separates players at the end of the day.

[@MJ325]

Same like Mahomes not on the same planet as Brady 🤓 cry

[@fillupsherman]

@MJ325 lol what does a chiefs fan have to cry about? 3 out of 4 sb in 5 years... lmao

[@killz954]

You mean the guy with no mvps or Super Bowl wins, appearances? I love Josh Allen, but the D riding is too crazy. Every week it’s a new title. Hopefully one day the media can start to account for the whole season, last season, overall resume before they start blurting out “best ever” after one game just to switch next week. There’s a two time defending champ for the first time in 20 years, but another QB is the most talented?

[@insecuredemononz987]

The bills curse is over Specially the kicker curse

[@AustRog12]

Chiefs always lose in reg season, but win in playoffs

[@RussingtonS4678]

Except Bass missed a PAT "wide right" in the 1st quarter. The curse of Scott Norwood will last for 100 years.

[@user-pg1jx8qq8n]

This will age badly, this bill might lose more than half the rest of their games…..watch!

[@captain_pennsylvania]

Josh Allen has hurt you and your favorite QB 😅

[@user-pg1jx8qq8n]

@ I love Josh but I think they will 4 more games

[@nocturne311]

I’m a Steelers fan but Joe Burrow is the best QB in the NFL right now.

[@peterwilson4865]

😂 no he's not

[@risingphoenix1484]

This will change if the chiefs win SB... again.

[@steviehandsome4712]

Mahomes’ success is 80% Andy Reid. He probably wouldn’t have panned out had he not gone to KC, or SF, or GB, or to McVay.

[@Mike-mh5jt]

Put it down brother

[@DJuahn]

Andy Reid's success is 50% Mahomes as well. They needed one another.

[@TheWiseguysTCG]

One of the stupidest things ever written

[@ThanosMahomes]

Andy won how many rings before Patrick?

[@DJuahn]

@@ThanosMahomes zero. Zip. Nada.

[@RussingtonS4678]

Talent isnt the only marker for being the best otherwise QBs like Cam Newton or Aaron Rodgers would have multiple SB's. Allen may have talent, but compared to Lamar, Mahomes and even Dak Prescott, he lacks the nerve in those crucial moments which is why Mahomes will always be the King of QBs and others will struggle.

[@njongomato]

They routinely ignore this only to praise Mahomes for being clutch once he gets it done in the big playoff moments.

[@PeteStanner4567]

Agree. I honestly don't know how we can applaud Josh Allen when Lamar is a better QB, has better stats, is a 2x MVP and took Josh Allen by his jock strap and literally stamped any life out of the Bills. Just a huge conspiracy against Lamar, i wonder why? hmmmmm

[@BTCBlizzy]

Yea until it’s done when it counts the most, I couldn’t care less.

[@nocturne311]

Dak Prescott? Lol.

[@peterwilson4865]

Prescott??? Dude lay off the bath salts. Allen's numbers in the playoffs are also 10x better than Lamar's.

[@balloonedraccoon2503]

I'll take the Superbowls over regular season wins 🤷

[@andrewgriffiths4167]

most games come down down to 1 or 2 plays every game dont over react ...yes chiefs have flaws but this bills team lost to texans and ravens and u got them favoutites in afc is madness.

[@Nearly-famous-painter1960]

Lamar would’ve been injured trying to score by running on 4th and 2 at the 26. Allen injures people who get in his way . He’s Henry and Lamar rolled into one.

[@grim7174]

How many SB wins does Josh have; zero. I’m pretty sure Mahomes owns the Bills in the playoffs where it truly matters. A regular season win means nothing when it boils down to who has the Jewelry and who is still chasing it.

[@rozlincoln3568]

Someone salty af

[@grim7174]

@@rozlincoln3568 someone could possibly be, not me though. Just stating the facts.

[@jd229]

Yeah I guess we should just stop playing the regular season games cause they don't matter. Wouldn't have mattered if the chiefs went undefeated it's reg season no one cares.

[@81suze]

Mahomes

[@madtownangler]

Hope that Buffalo makes the Super Bowl and finally loses its fifth one....

[@MKBayo]

LMAO🤣

[@marrsbar27]

How many super bowls does Josh Allen have !!! KC defense played poorly. Get off the Josh Allen train.

[@ryguy5859]

Ok, love Josh, but Lamar has had 1 bad game. His division is way more difficult too. Allen feasts on NE, NYJ and MIA. Cincy and Pit are far more difficult. Josh is in the running but please. Lamar has made that same run

[@NeverB_Gameover]

It's true. The AFC East is garbage. AFC North and AFC West are way better divisions this year.

[@scruffd0g193]

Well Brady leaves and Buffalo is about to win their 5th AFC East title in a row.

[@jd229]

Lamar had bad games against the raiders and browns too. Not as bad but still bad. Lamar is 1-4 vs mahomes josh is 4-4. Allen has more wins and has made more game winning plays. Soon as ravens run game got stopped lamar suddenly ain't that good. It happens every time.

[@sophearospol1822]

U are correct but let’s not forget the ravens lost to the raiders and the browns let that sink in 😂 the bengals lost to the patriots whom u said was in a bad division. At least the bills lose to two playoff teams and beat all the bad teams so who’s better now?

[@peterwilson4865]

Divisional games are a completely different animal. Cincy lost to NE and put up 10 points in the process. Baltimore lost to the Raiders. Allen lost to Baltimore and Houston when they were banged up and before acquiring Cooper.

[@TCDShow]

My BEST Bet of the weekend was Buffalo.. easy pick too..

[@phazon100]

Mahomes does not have a strong arm

[@AlphabetJune]

Raiders 🤠🦅 not in their division 😅😅😅 accept it

[@jamalj1]

People do know Lamar has been way better than Josh this year right but I like Josh too it’s just facts

[@jd229]

How he got 4 losses then? How come he ain't beat the chiefs?

[@peterwilson4865]

Way better is hyperbolic AF. He's got a few more TDs but also 2 more losses. Henry has helped him a ton opening up the passing game, but Lamar's also had like half of his TDs in 3 games. How about Allen gets the participation trophy MVP this year like Lamar did last year when he had the worst case for the award in NFL history and we'll call it even!

[@insecuredemononz987]

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[@jefferylord3068]

I don’t want you to get free tickets!!!

[@Trill_Tour]

If you have Lamar over Allen, you don't know football

[@jd229]

Facts

[@peterwilson4865]

Yet last year happened when Lamar had the worst case for MVP in League history. Kudos on Lamar actually having a legitimate claim to it statistically this year though!

[@JanoyCresva]

You guys are clowns. Every week you guys got a new guy thats the best ___. Colin changes his mind with the wind.

[@razalgh0ul470]

Bills always win the reg season game, Chiefs always win the playoff game. Not concerned

[@killz954]

Super false

[@dwightshealey8288]

I like it when Caucasian quarterbacks one particular games there's always this positivity but whenever melanated quarterback wins there's always this well here's the problem with him and here's the problem with his team and he can't win such and such and there's always some dynamic they are not really as good as they pretend to be but when you control the narrative you can say whatever and slant things however you want

[@NeverB_Gameover]

Feels like an overreaction Monday if there ever was one. Bills are the best. Chiefs are cooked. Let's not bury them just yet.

[@jd229]

No one is saying chiefs are cooked. Not a single person. They aren't what they used to be tho

[@NeverB_Gameover]

@jd229 They were worse last year during the regular season. Still ended up in the Superbowl.

[@jd229]

@@NeverB_Gameover yeah but mahomes didn't have 15tds and 11 picks thru 10 games. He's a but off. Def agree they could make a run again. Like I said no one said they are cooked but if bills and chiefs meet again in the playoffs what will be different? Mahomes would have to be better. I mean kelce did nothing and dhop was pretty quiet. Bills still getting milano back in the future. Obv KC missing some big offensive pieces too. Could really be a coin flip again.

[@peterwilson4865]

​@@NeverB_Gameoverthey've just had luck on their side over that span. Doesn't mean they're not legit championship contenders like every other year, but you don't win 15 straight 1 score games without a shitload of circumstantial luck working out in your favor. They don't really have the horses this year seemingly, but the rest of the league is very mid outside of Buffalo, KC, Detroit, and Baltimore, so that's led to them being undefeated until now. They could definitely still pull it off, but if Buffalo is relatively healthy come playoff time, they've got a better and deeper roster from top to bottom and will likely beat them by a couple scores again. This game should've been a 3+ score rout.