Josh Pate On Alabama Recruiting Under Kalen DeBoer (Late Kick Cut)

[@JoshPateCFB]

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[@dentonyoung4314]

DeBoer is going to be just fine at Bama.

[@HotLikePu94]

@@davebryant8050 bama literally just ran through this conference with a non existent offense and you're telling me they lose 6 while playing one team with a slight better roster?

[@rolltide3976]

This new coaching staff is making connections in recruiting all across Alabama, Texas, and Georgia! The #2 player in Alabama committed to Bama today. Bama is going to be a monster in recruiting because Kalen DeBoer made sure to hire outstanding recruiters as position coaches. Robert Gillespie, Freddie Roach, Kane Wommack, Colin Hitschler, Maurice Linguist and Christian Robinson are all young Top 10 recruiters.

[@Fulcrum205]

People forget that Alabama has more titles without Bear Bryant or Nick Saban than most schools have in their entire history

[@glockman9c]

I have faith in DeBoer. Roll Tide!

[@montecarlo4294]

This is why Josh is my go to on everything college football related

[@davidmerlin3344]

I am very excited about the New Alabama Dynasty!!!

[@CrashB111]

Every recruit Alabama lands is just another dig I throw at my Auburn friends about "Husky Harsin" getting it done again.

[@yukslime8468]

Washington is better than bama and it’s not close

[@michaelatkinson6730]

@@yukslime8468 You mean football?

[@handsomehebrew]

@@yukslime8468man, you don’t even believe that shit yourself 😂

[@Fulcrum205]

Washington did win all those national championships in a much harder conference

[@Purp4040]

Bama excited for four star nows?

[@Lukas-rw7ok]

Derick Smith just committed 💯🐘

[@jonathanwilliam980]

who?

[@Lukas-rw7ok]

@@jonathanwilliam980 receiver

[@Lukas-rw7ok]

@@jonathanwilliam980 an Alabama receiver just committed

[@jonathanwilliam980]

@@Lukas-rw7ok nice

[@christopherwoodson7162]

​@@jonathanwilliam980 top 30 player in top 300. Elite prospect.

[@la7era1u54]

Josh pulling out the nature vs nurture scientific argument. And they said it couldn't be done in college football. What a scholar and a gentleman!!!

[@timglover5358]

This season is crucial for the future of kids wanting to play for debor

[@sstewart44]

I think his offense will look great, and I think that will get the attention of alot of kids that want to play in it! I hope I'm right, we'll see

[@christopherwoodson7162]

I agree & I think you're correct.

[@billdent7449]

Agree. The pool of available elite players to be recruited is exponentially larger than what he had available in the Northwest. Excluding NIL payments, having "connections", at the JC & HS levels would be most helpful. I guess that's where the alumni comes into play. Great work, Josh.

[@Donny_DeVito]

It’s a pretty simple equation. Alabama = a place you want to play. DeBoer = a coach you want to play for. Alabama + DeBoer = the ultimate combo when everyone has the money to spend in the SEC NIL game. Glad you’ve stuck to your guns on this because I’m not remotely surprised by the success in recruiting - which is truly my only concern because he took lesser talent to greater heights at UW. He’s no Nick, but he’s one hell of a replacement for him.

[@TheVaux]

Literally picked up Derick Smith today, a huge 4-star top 100 in-state athlete, offered by all the big SEC schools. This staff DeBoer put together is working hard and building great relationships already, they're going to do just fine. Top 1 or 3? Maybe not, top 5-10 would be huge for Bama fans after just losing the best to do it.

[@Purp4040]

Yall excited about 4 stars committing now?

[@TheVaux]

@@Purp4040 don’t keep up with recruiting very well huh? Top 100 in most services and a top 5 athlete. We call those big recruits at every school. Hate on though 😂

[@Carsonm89]

I think it’s really interesting that they gave the title of “GM” to Courtney Morgan. I think Ohio State and maybe a handful of other programs even have a staffer with that title. At first I thought it was just a tagline for his role but the way things are going with the landscape of college football, it seems that the GM role is very forward thinking and as of right now Alabama and Ohio State are far ahead of the curve with what’s to come.

[@Rustyboy21]

Im really excited for guys who have waited for their time like Keon, and kendrick law to go crazy.

[@amberashley7559]

I’m from Alabama and dont understand why southerners think that Coaches not from the south can’t recruit talent in the south. It’s a crazy mindset.

[@Greydawg]

I'm oddly terrified of DeBoer & Alabama staying elite. 😳

[@christopherwoodson7162]

🤫🤫 we coming.

[@Greydawg]

@@christopherwoodson7162 I'm afraid you're right. 🤔

[@crimsonkings205]

@@Greydawg Did you think Bama was about to fall off??? We tried to tell you folks but you always refuse to listen.

[@Greydawg]

@@crimsonkings205 I said I'm afraid of Alabama staying elite, though? Not the same as saying they are definitely not elite is all. 🤷‍♂️

[@crimsonkings205]

@@Greydawg Okay, I gotcha. But, Alabama does have the ability to remain elite. DeBoer has really been impressive since he has got to Alabama.

[@timothyf7621]

Kiffin can recruit in the SEC... BeBoer can too! Kiffin, with his bland misdemeanor and weird outlook on things, has done really well!

[@michaelatkinson6730]

Josh's surfing analogy is what makes him a great analyst for college football. Spot on again.

[@johncastleberryjr]

Every one needs to get of deboer bama and deboer will be just fine

[@JimmieWilliams-ml9ss]

Coach Debo is recruiting well. Look out college football!!

[@johnrhodes3880]

The hell with recruiting he inherited a great team.... i want to see his X's and O's

[@anthonyrobinson624]

You’re 100% right Josh

[@tonyparrish5366]

Just great information on this site.

[@teukel1157]

Love your insights. Roll Tide. You are THE go to football guru. Yeah you are.

[@UnconventionalSpark]

Alabama will be fine. They’ll be competitive in the SEC and likely win it some years but they will not be head and shoulders above their rivals like they have been.

[@billwilliams2242]

You hope 😂

[@BamaChamp]

​@@billwilliams2242it's facts 😂 any team with a good offense wins a lot of games in general, even with no defense. Deboer is an offensive minded coach, who ended up getting a DC who had a higher ranked defense for his former team than Bama did. If lsu could win 10 games with NO defense at all, then Bama could easily win more games consistently through the years

[@billwilliams2242]

@@BamaChamp yea I should of been clearer I'm saying he maybe even better Roll Tide

[@Phillip-xi2cq]

Nah they will still dominate the SEC title picture like they have under Saban. Remember they have won 3 of the past 4 SEC titles. UGA isn't ever going to consistently beat Alabama. They never have in their history.

[@esdodge]

Nice to hear the Kearney Nebraska shoutout! Thanks, Josh. It's pronounced Karney - like a person that works at a carnival.

[@kakykall]

🏄‍♂️

[@ARMY-ep6fz]

Bama will succeed!

[@olliehays3206]

NIL was supposed to be cashing in on value you made for yourself after you started playing. Not for recruiting. Not for roster retention. Not for extorting your coach for money. Agents and businesses/promoters can work that out with the family if kid becomes a star. We should not have coaches arranging payments. Not their job. This is all wrong. And we all know it.

[@JSchaffer214]

Yeah, I don't have an issue with college athletes making some money, but this NIL deal wasn't thought through very well.

[@bdbd1390]

Hus first few years will be just fine recruiting. Now what he does with the talent, the next two to three years from now. Will show how well he will continue to recruit or not. If not. I doubt Alabama will stick with him. If that's the case. Time will tell though

[@itsathejoey]

Just need to remember going into this season that Saban's first season at Alabama was 7-6 with a loss to LAMO.

[@logangaastra4679]

Josh Pate is aggressively reasonable

[@alkers372]

One of your better segments...

[@floridapipeman20floridapip91]

It’s cause of roll tide Willie!!!

[@bamabelle7847]

Errbody loves Roll Tide Willie❤️❤️❤️

[@BB13131313]

I didn't expect Alabama to fall off the face of the earth, but I expect them to come back down to reality..

[@Phillip-xi2cq]

You will be wrong. Alabama doesn't come back down to reality unless the NCAA decides to step in. That is literally the only time in their history they were "Bad". When the NCAA threw the book at them.

[@charleshaynes5524]

It sounds like the discount is as losing steam anyway

[@ryannelson2653]

Deboer might not recruit top 5 but he will coach at Top 5 level. Consistent Top 10 program with Title upside is the standard now.

[@jamesmarshall6619]

That's essentially what Clemson did. Clemson always had top 15 but not always top 5 or top 10 and they were still competing for national championships. Get enough talent, coach them up well, you can compete.

[@christopherwoodson7162]

​@@jamesmarshall6619 that's going to continue as well. Lol

[@GrayGamer]

He will probably start refuting top 5 when recruits see him winning games at alabama

[@christopherwoodson7162]

@@GrayGamer yep. I been saying that. More recruits will come when bama starts winning with him. Even more eyes then what we already have will be looking at Bama.

[@trails4all]

Shout out to Kelly Slater..the real Goat. Hardest sport there is

[@richerdcrowder1986]

He looks good in the sec so far hope he Kan keep it up still hopefully optimistic lol

[@thierrylepere9828]

Dude watch what you say. Bama has the #2 recruiting class in the SEC now. How many nattys does your team have in total. Mike drop😂

[@hughobrien4139]

Welcome to the New College Football. They’ve made a movie about this dynamic it’s called Money Ball.

[@PAJ2396]

Whoever said Bama didn’t have the resources to play the NIL game? These are very new things I’m hearing.

[@campbellseamon5076]

I’d be worried if I wasn’t a bama fan

[@dreamshakejunya]

I mean… he’s definitely a better coach than Sark and I’d venture a guess to say he’s proven better than Venables at this point as well. I think Bama has a relatively manageable schedule, but strong enough to make some noise.

[@Bearlover722]

Better than Sark? Sark learned under the best. Josh is just trying to make us feel good. Will have a tough year and are competitors are laughing.

[@jimmcewen9351]

Manageable schedule, road games at Wisconsin Tennessee LSU and Oklahoma, and Georgia in Tuscaloosa in September, it’s brutal

[@dreamshakejunya]

@@Bearlover722 lol yes. Better than Sark. I can say that without a doubt. And deep down you agree with it. Otherwise you would have started with his *results* instead of his *education* Fact is Sark’s been a mediocre coach for most of his career. He could use recent success to catapult himself, but at both Texas and USC he coached with *considerable* talent advantages and this is the first season that he even had a good year. He also went 1-2 against the “good” teams he played this past season. And he also had to play like 5 backup QBs and get a gift to survive UH. Deboer won 11 games then 14 games at a school that we were told Sark did an “amazing” job winning 7 games at. And beat him head-to-head with less talent. I have no problems putting their records against each other.

[@dreamshakejunya]

@@jimmcewen9351 lol for Bama and the SEC that should be a favorable schedule. Sure Georgia is tough, but it’s early and everyone forgets early losses. Especially when it’s Alabama. Wisconsin is coming off of a 7-6 season. They may be tough, but I’m not seeing them as a super threat to Bama. Maybe they’ll get it together this season… but I’m not putting too much faith into that. LSU on the road is always tough. But that’s a winnable game for them in my opinion. Especially with LSU losing Jayden Daniels I’m not fearing OU at this point. I think Ole Miss and/or Texas would have been tougher games tbh. Tennessee is a toss up. It’s a rivalry game that that bama has dominated in conference. But they were 4-4 last season coming off of massive hype.

[@CrashB111]

@@Bearlover722 it's pretty empirical that DeBoer is better than Sark. He beat him twice in a row, with less talented players.

[@yukslime8468]

Chris peterson and even jimmy lake recruited better than Kalen deboer did at Washington

[@eugeneengram9230]

Which one of them played for a National Championship though?Neither!Roll Damn Tide Man!

[@Phillip-xi2cq]

No they didn't. Deboer's first class at Washington was ranked 26th and Lake never recruited a class rated better than 30th.

[@yukslime8468]

@@Phillip-xi2cq ok my fault Peterson’s classes were better though

[@Todd_B639]

ON3 has Bama ranked #7 for 2025 recruiting

[@luvbama4076]

let's go! 🌊🅰️🌊💕🌊🐘

[@taytayc7722]

Roll tide roll

[@scottzenger2019]

Players are going to find out that his offensive is going to help me get to the NFL. And, be a very high draft pick and be ready. The, defense will always be great

[@gregorydufrene121]

How many 3 stars are NFL Pro bowlers!!?? Josh Allen was a zero or 1 star recruit!!

[@christopherwoodson7162]

Josh Jacob's & Eddie Jackson are 2

[@PB-vj5rh]

nah, it’s Debover for the tide

[@cdock4cd]

Won’t say that in November

[@christopherwoodson7162]

Until we smash your team.

[@christopherwoodson7162]

Isnt this the same guy that everyone said couldn't recruit? 😂😂😂

[@matthewcearbaugh9762]

Alabama recruit$ it$elf

[@christopherwoodson7162]

🎯🎯

[@jrcrit8843]

So we’re gonna pretend those years before Saban didn’t exist? 😂 you Bama fans are living off of wishful thinking at best. Bama doesn’t recruit for itself. Saban did the recruiting which is why yall lost all those recruits when he announced his retirement.

[@christopherwoodson7162]

@@jrcrit8843 funny bc Bama didn't " lose all the recruits when Saban left " did some guys leave? Yeah of course they would. I mean when you lose the literal GOAT you're bound to have some attrition. BUT & I say that with emphasis, Bama losing lots of guys every year to the portal & the NFL. Even with Saban leaving & the NFL Bama is returning 45% of their production WITH A NEW COACH & STAFF. Bama finished #2 in recruiting even AFTER Saban left. They had 30 days, Bama lost 4 starters & a few reserves that were like 4th on the DC. Top 15 currently for 25' but keep going.

[@jrcrit8843]

@@christopherwoodson7162 you literally lost your 5-star QB that y’all were glazing until he transferred. You lost current players that were starters this past season. Simply put, no one plays for Bama. They played for Saban. No one cares about some country hick town called Tuscaloosa Alabama. Have fun in your delusion though. Reality of next season will hit you regardless. Your best days are behind you chump

[@matthewcearbaugh9762]

@@jrcrit8843 I'm not a Bama fan. I was pointing out that Bama has been paying players under the table. Hence recruiting it$elf.

[@JesseEstes-bv8nc]

Alabama will never pay for play. Ever!

[@eric3298]

Auburn will be the future of Alabama because they like Clemson except in the sec a unique school who has the best big game stadium in the country and them competing with Georgia lsu and now ole miss is what fans wanna see !

[@AustinHunter8]

You are literally coming off of a losing season and you’re suddenly gonna step past a team that just went 12-2 and hired a coach right out of the National Championship game? Sit all the way down.

[@Royalmoo-1000]

Finesse 2 times

[@yukslime8468]

Washington’s recruiting ranking went up after Kalen deboer left

[@Phillip-xi2cq]

No it didn't. Their roster got worse. Since their best players left for Alabama via the transfer portal. They literally have 2 3 star player committed.

[@thierrylepere9828]

That's because no one was recruiting there at the time of the transition. Dude...what else could it do. Your football IQ is showing 😢 and it looks like you need to go back to school

[@yukslime8468]

@@Phillip-xi2cq there roster got worse🤦‍♂️ yes but there transfer and overall recruit rank went up

[@Phillip-xi2cq]

@@yukslime8468 Their roster got better. Most the players outside of Caleb Downs and Bond were going to have to leave anyway to fit in the 2024 class. On Top of that Alabama picked up 5 4 star transfers and Signed the #2 Recruiting class.. Go look at the transfers at Alabama. A lot of them weren't producing numbers at Alabama.

[@yukslime8468]

@@Phillip-xi2cq lol

[@Purp4040]

So alabama is excited bout 4 stars committing now? 😅😅

[@Phillip-xi2cq]

Yes considering 4 star Players generally make up 80% of classes that are rated in the Top 5. Are you ignorant ?

[@thierrylepere9828]

Yes we are. What are you excited about???

[@Purp4040]

@@Phillip-xi2cq exactly was* majority 4 Stars now it will be closer to 50-60 percent and more 3 stars and way less 5 stars. 4 star and above was expectations now, hope you get 1 or 2 five stars usually by now bama has 3 already. But you have 4 four stars and a 3 star for 25' class.

[@Phillip-xi2cq]

@@thierrylepere9828 I am excited by Alabama's roster and that their recruiting is still steamrolling.

[@thierrylepere9828]

Yes we are. What are you excited about?

[@PHUnkel66]

Saban and Fisher gone gives a HUGE boost to LSU recruiting. Watch out because though you don't agree Brian Kelly is one of the faces of CFB. The gaff you made to me that he almost got fired this year sounded like an emotional response from you.

[@tacticalmattfoley]

Alabama will be better coached with DeBoer than Saban....fact.

[@wealthyfuture999]

i been trying to tell ppl that the past 3 years saban had questionable staff hires and the development and discipline had tail off a bit this new staff is looking great so far but only time will tell RTR🐘

[@CrashB111]

Obviously, at the head coach position it's a downgrade. Nick Saban was and is the best college football coach of all time, so that's not knocking DeBoer. That's just Nick Saban being Nick Saban. At our other position groups though, there's definitely been coaching upgrades. It seems like since 2020 it's been hard if not impossible for Saban to get the coaching staffs he truly wanted. Whether that's negative recruiting by other staffs based on his age, or guys just not wanting to commit to coach for a guy that might retire soon. Saban was having to coach with assistants below his standard at the end of his career, and he was still dragging the team to National Title contention.

[@jamesniday9236]

Without question.....

[@Bearlover722]

Ok Homer. Damn, I didn't realize we had fans like you. Do you even know what a fact is?

[@briangwin1251]

Well if that's true, then oh boy we're gonna have some fun...lol. If you're saying we upgraded over the GOAT then WOW. I hope you're right.

[@jcarte29]

This is an overreaction the other way. What other teams fans said is they won’t be a perineal top 5 or maybe even top 10 class every year and Bama fans won’t be ok with that. Top 3 recruiting classes every year from Bama those days are indeed OVER.

[@mr.ohiostate2544]

2025 class is not even close to being ready for a ranking. Way too much invested in esrly numbers.

[@erniegibson7737]

I give him 2 years and he will be gone. Alabama will go through 3 or 4 coaches before they realize that they will never get another Saben and that they will be average for a generation.

[@devinh6844]

Dude loves talking about his team lmao

[@JoshPateCFB]

The audience loves me talking about this team; therefore I do. - JP

[@Mike-cv9rr]

Alabama has always paid for players, always

[@loupi4bama]

🥱

[@Lukas-rw7ok]

Every single SEC team does. You think texas , Georgia , LSU doesn’t? Lol

[@Mike-cv9rr]

@@loupi4bama hey loupi this is rainbow

[@loupi4bama]

@@Mike-cv9rr Where you been dude? You doin ok?

[@rogerchambers7851]

Nick needs to get the hell out from up there

[@bigfellamike1913]

Nobody said it was going to "dissapear into the abyss" Cut it out, Josh. They did and WILL take a hit though. A noticeable one, and that did happen. FOH!

[@Phillip-xi2cq]

How are they going to take a noticeable hit >? They literally still have one of the Top 3 Rosters in the country. They just hired a guy that went to the playoffs with a way less talented roster. They finished 12-2 in 2023. You think they roster the have is going to lose what 5 games somehow ? That is the only way it is noticeable. Stop the BS. This Alabama roster with Deboer coaching it at worst loses 3 games with a playoff appearance. Hate to break it to you but Alabama isn't sliding noticeably anytime soon.

[@bigfellamike1913]

@@Phillip-xi2cq if you think bama over the next 10 years will have the same recruiting they did over the previous 10... I have a bridge to sell you lol. But yes they will absolutely still be a good squad.

[@Phillip-xi2cq]

@@bigfellamike1913 You will be sorely disappointed. Recruiting rankings for Alabama the next 10 years will be Top 5. On Top of that their tranfer portal recruiting will highly improve. Which coaches like Kirby Smart hasn't adapted to yet. The reason Deboer and his staff was successful at Washington was key pickups in the Portal. Alabama recruits itself even before Saban was there. Alabama had Top 10 classes every season almost before Saban got there. 2006 and 2007 Alabama signed Top 10 classes before he arrived once the scholarship limitations were removed. Do some research. Get ready to be sad, mad and fat.

[@bigfellamike1913]

@@Phillip-xi2cq Why would i be mad or sad? I'm just being realistic. Bama wont win 3 championships in 10 years with DeBoer like they did with saban and they WILL see a recruiting drop off ever so slightly :). They will have less recruiting and on field success with KDB how much less is yet to be seen. Thats all. Don't get so emotional it's cringy.

[@Phillip-xi2cq]

@@bigfellamike1913 Bahahahaha get ready to be wrong.

[@joesmith6972]

A couple of 3-loss seasons and recruiting will fall off.

[@Phillip-xi2cq]

Not true. A 2 loss regular season in the SEC will still land them in the Playoffs. If they lose in the Playoffs the first season it won't kill their program or hurt their recruiting. Recruiting is about Dollars now and Alabama has the Dollars.

[@scottmelton3092]

Kalen was the worst recruiting coach at UW in 30 years. He couldn’t get the same kids the school had normally got for years. The talent that got him his coaching job at Alabama was already at UW or came in the portal. He knew his crap recruiting was going to cause a drop off in the next few years and he bailed. Maybe he’s getting some talent based on the Alabama name but I doubt it will last. He’s not a great recruiter no matter what you are trying to tell yourself. The O.C. That left ( Grubb) was much more connected to the kids and highly respected. The 6th year kids that hung around to make a run at the title rave about Grubb.

[@phoenixdevelopment8689]

lol when they drop 3-4 games next year this convo will be funny as shit

[@kevinprisant]

Kirby Smart lost to Vanderbilt in his first season and finished 8-5 with the best roster anyone’s inherited until DeBoer took over for Saban. The first season isn’t exactly full of absolutes.

[@FlyTheBarber]

Well said 🫱🏽‍🫲🏼