Josh Pate On Major CFB Changes About To Happen (Late Kick Extra)

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College Football has seen a ton of change over the last few years, and on the most recent edition of the Late Kick Extra podcast Josh Pate discussed some reports indicating revenue sharing between conferences and players. Let us know what you think in the comments below and be sure to SUBSCRIBE to the channel and CLICK THE BELL for notifications as we bring you multiple live shows per week!
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@harambenights1051
@harambenights1051 Ай бұрын
RIP College Football. I witnessed the golden age of college football and am grateful.
@Mox3712
@Mox3712 Ай бұрын
My thoughts exactly - I do not like the direction the NCAA is headed. At all.
@JavierParede
@JavierParede Ай бұрын
Agree 100%. CFB season used to be my favorite time of the year and I watched all day from morning to night. I've already lost interest and the biggest changes haven't even happened yet.
@chase1976veg
@chase1976veg Ай бұрын
Agree totally. I am 66 and CF has been my favorite sport for many a year. The direction of where all this is going just kills my enthusiasm for college sports in general. I have been a TN fan all my life. I dumped our season tickets 3 years ago because of all these crazy changes. I will not spend one more dime on college sports going forward. I will watch on TV but not have my butt in a seat at the stadium or arena anymore. The way this has all happened without any control is just crazy. I believe the lower levels below D1 are going to suffer greatly. Only the big schools will reap the benefits because they have the $$. $$ is all this is about anyway. We will not longer have the same College Sports as we have all grown up with.
@jdub1987
@jdub1987 Ай бұрын
Facts 💯
@TheRayfield77
@TheRayfield77 Ай бұрын
They're destroying it. And no one can stop it. Or rather, no one is willing to stop it.
@seantoonen9748
@seantoonen9748 Ай бұрын
I'm a Big Ten alum but I hate what this is turning into. It's no longer "college" football because the players aren't really students when they can just transfer every year and all they care about is money. And when the only conferences that matter are the Big Ten and SEC it's going to get really boring really fast. This negates everything that made college football better than the NFL and relegates college football to an NFL-lite with the same 34 teams (or maybe a few more assuming a few B12 and ACC schools get picked up). I used to love the start of football season and would watch any games on whether they were G5, mid-tier P5, or the marquee games. When everyone other than the same 34 teams become irrelevant I can't imagine college football retaining the fanbase it has had the last 100 years. It'll be Big Ten and SEC plus a few t-shirt fans, and suddenly college football will be closer to the NHL than the NFL in terms of exposure. Hard to believe it's come to this.
@JavierParede
@JavierParede Ай бұрын
I agree with you. I went to a Big 12 school not named Oklahoma State or Texas Tech so I've already prepared myself for the day that we're effectively D-II. At least you're from a Big 10 school. The only thing I can guarantee is that I will never again watch an SEC or Big 10 game. If one of their games comes on I'm changing the channel, and I imagine I'm one of many who feel that way.
@billsimpson6136
@billsimpson6136 Ай бұрын
@@JavierParede Same. No interest in watching Bama/Georgia and the 14 dwarfs. Especially when everything is so heavily tipped in their favor that no one else stands a chance. It would be like watching the NFL where the NFC East has no salary cap, all the TV slots, and can poach from any of the other franchises. Who wants to watch a sport where a small subset has insurmountable advantages over everyone else?
@wdsmkc
@wdsmkc Ай бұрын
Can you really call it “law school” if the budding lawyers can transfer every year & all they care about is money? How about “med school”? I can’t speak for anyone else, but I chose to attend college to maximize my earning potential. That was it, that was the entire reason. And had I (as a music education major) packed my bags every year -or even semester!- and blown my horn elsewhere, no one would have said squat about it. Somehow though, we’ve decided that athletes (a fraction of a fraction of 1% of the student body) need to have some unbreakable blood oath to dear old Alma Mater. In the case of revenue generating sports, a significant portion of those athletes would not in a million years get within a thousand miles of being admitted to the school. We’ve been sold a bill of goods for decades that these kids were *STUDENTS* first and athletes second. Things like UNC creating a fake major to keeps kids eligible, or Auburn giving a guy a degree who was completely illiterate absolutely destroy that claim. Those kids weren’t student athletes, they were slave labor. These schools weren’t “giving kids an education”, they were buying wins over State U (and in turn buying mega donations from boosters) for the comparatively low low cost of a scholarship. I’m sorry that you’re burdened with learning 10 or 15 new names each year. I’m sorry that it ruins it for you if guy one knocking guy two’s dick in the dirt somehow lacks magic if you know they’re both getting paid above the table instead of below it. Last years bowl game was the 256th consecutive game I’ve attended for my team. This year will mark 20 years of perfect attendance for me. The stadiums have gotten bigger, the music louder, the scoreboard ads more persistent and obnoxious… but what has not changed is when the ball is snapped until the whistle blows, the football looks the same. Kids run and throw and catch and kick and tackle just the same as they always have. Some get paid, some don’t. Some transfer every year, some wear the same two colors for 4 or 5 or 6 years. But at the end of the day, whoever is wearing the “right” helmet on Saturday is okay in my book.
@TheRayfield77
@TheRayfield77 Ай бұрын
Just think about all the kids college football helped too. It gave them purpose and goals. All of that is about to just vanish.
@rwcoving
@rwcoving Ай бұрын
@@wdsmkc huh?
@3beckhams
@3beckhams Ай бұрын
Let's just call it what it is. CFB is becoming NFL Lite.
@lamontrankinjr.280
@lamontrankinjr.280 Ай бұрын
What’s the problem?
@wmrat1969
@wmrat1969 Ай бұрын
@@lamontrankinjr.280 NFL was created to pay players, NCAA was about scholarships for you a free education of your choice in a trade off for your athletic talent, not to mention meals and a room. If you only want to make money skip college work out for 3 years go to combine and get in the draft, NCAA should go back to the normal and quit paying these guys might as well pay them in Jr High. A stipend would have helped pay the players if they would have done it several years ago. Times change and this is just my opinion, money is sinking the sport.
@lamontrankinjr.280
@lamontrankinjr.280 Ай бұрын
@@wmrat1969was it a problem when players were getting paid under the table by bag men and others?
@ImMeandYouAreYou6942
@ImMeandYouAreYou6942 Ай бұрын
And I dont watch the NFL, and soon I won’t watch NCAA Football.
@wmrat1969
@wmrat1969 Ай бұрын
@@lamontrankinjr.280 Yes and if they got caught and proven guilty there were consequences, example SMU. There are a lot of examples of schools getting caught and punished and coaches being fired for it. Can't stop the under the table you have to watch and monitor it hoping to nail them for it.
@nicholasbegan525
@nicholasbegan525 Ай бұрын
If the top level of CFB leaves out schools in the Big 12/ACC, then the gov't representatives from those states (think Arizona, Colorado, North Carolina, Utah, Virginia, etc.) will not play nice with the idea of an anti-trust exemption.
@adraino7345
@adraino7345 Ай бұрын
Would that split Texas if schools like Houston, Texas Tech, Baylor, TCU don’t make the cut?
@seantoonen9748
@seantoonen9748 Ай бұрын
@@adraino7345 I imagine Texas Tech would make the cut but I doubt those private schools will. As long as the third big state school makes the cut I doubt their legislature will put up much of a stink.
@phillipolsen1262
@phillipolsen1262 Ай бұрын
​@seantoonen9748 no way TTU makes it and Utah, ASU, and Colorado don't.
@WithaJoeFro
@WithaJoeFro Ай бұрын
@@phillipolsen1262 Yeah they will. They are bigger and have more money/alumni. They have more alumni in Dallas-Fort Worth than anyone other than Texas. Plus it would get their state legislature on board. With that said I think ASU would get picked up by the Big 10 since they are AAU.
@JavierParede
@JavierParede Ай бұрын
@@phillipolsen1262 I think ASU probably will and TT definitely will. Utah should make it if the world is fair but they have a smaller stadium and smaller markets. It's no longer about how good you are on the field but only about how much money you can make for a bunch of greedy old men.
@MileHighBuffalo
@MileHighBuffalo Ай бұрын
Schools will have to cut non-revenue sports. Not only for cost savings, but you also have to throw Title IX into the mix.
@Jake-ip4sx
@Jake-ip4sx Ай бұрын
Im so unbelievably sick of radical change coming to this sport. For the love of God leave it alone. It was such a good thing and now its like they want to just see how bad they can possibly make it and spit in the fans faces, before fans stop watching
@zay4170
@zay4170 Ай бұрын
College football is cooked unfortunately. No saving it at this point….
@dirtyhiggins5484
@dirtyhiggins5484 Ай бұрын
Change is a part of life. Either you adapt or fall behind. I'm not saying all change is good, just that it is inevitable.
@Jake-ip4sx
@Jake-ip4sx Ай бұрын
@@dirtyhiggins5484 my point is it's not as fun to keep up with or watch. I'm not a coach or player I don't have to adapt to it if I don't like it I'll just stop watching. Which seems like they're trying to do is see how far they can push the envelope until people just don't care about it anymore
@jona.scholt4362
@jona.scholt4362 Ай бұрын
I know, it's so terrible these people want to compensated for their labor!
@Jake-ip4sx
@Jake-ip4sx Ай бұрын
@@jona.scholt4362 lmaoooooo yea that's the only thing that's changed, you got me! I just hate people making money, which is literally the only thing that's changed in college football 💔
@tfl1078
@tfl1078 Ай бұрын
Get rid of the scholarships...no free ride if they are getting paid like an employee. Either they are a student or an employee...can't be both.
@chucky0034
@chucky0034 Ай бұрын
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@LateKickwithJoshPate
@LateKickwithJoshPate Ай бұрын
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@1coachoogs
@1coachoogs Ай бұрын
Josh on a separate subject, have you looked at the SEC schedules this coming year and noticed that there are several teams that don’t play each other which leads to a possible multiple (3) teams that could go undefeated and then how do they decide conference championship ?
@joseclaudio2703
@joseclaudio2703 Ай бұрын
So I can say doe to ur last video that if I don't talk about u is because I don't like u. So ME BEING A FSU ---;--;--;--;-->
@Feynthot
@Feynthot Ай бұрын
Revenue share will kill transfer portal. Sign the contract to play for our team. 3 year lock in.
@ambivert1970
@ambivert1970 Ай бұрын
Pay for players should be a consistent percentage of conference profits not a flat dollar amount. They would receive advance base, then balance or commission based on conference profit performance.
@RoadTo19
@RoadTo19 Ай бұрын
With a guaranteed minimum for the length of their scholarship.
@jona.scholt4362
@jona.scholt4362 Ай бұрын
Damn Josh, I didn't know Texas played Bama in the Rose Bowl. Strange they were wearing all Michigan gear...
@davidvines6498
@davidvines6498 Ай бұрын
Years ago during the BCS, Bama played Texas in the Rose Bowl
@jona.scholt4362
@jona.scholt4362 Ай бұрын
@@davidvines6498 I don't think any of us college football fans are likely to ever forget that game. Also, USC totally gave that game away. Should've never been close enough for Vince Young to win it at the end
@davidvines6498
@davidvines6498 Ай бұрын
@@jona.scholt4362but that was Texas vs USC
@jona.scholt4362
@jona.scholt4362 Ай бұрын
@@davidvines6498 dear god, why did my and immediately go to that game? Talk about a brain fart. Yes, Texas Bama was Colt McCoy's injury game. Actually, now that I think about it, when I hear "Texas, Rose Bowl" in the same sentence, my mind immediately goes to Vince Young (especially since he did the same thing to my Wolverines the year before he did it to USC). Still, I should probably have to turn in my college football fan card for that huge of a whiff
@reconsoldier135
@reconsoldier135 Ай бұрын
In over 150 years of college football only 32 schools have ever won a national championship so if you feel mad that your G5 school is being relegated and not being given a "fair shot" you've had every opportunity before now to make a name for yourselves but haven't so what's going to change that now?
@Twitz88
@Twitz88 Ай бұрын
Well said
@andytodd5921
@andytodd5921 Ай бұрын
My school won 4, and it looks like we’re out of this shabang. Bad argument
@DixieBird123
@DixieBird123 Ай бұрын
Really only 32? Heck of a stat. Never would have thought only 32.
@billsimpson6136
@billsimpson6136 Ай бұрын
And of those 32 only really 4 matter anymore. It's Georgia / Bama and the 14 dwarfs + Michigan/OSU and the 16 dwarfs. It's not like we're gonna be seeing a Northwestern/Miss St. or Rutgers/Texas A&M national championship game anytime soon.
@SurferRC
@SurferRC Ай бұрын
Its about access and ability to move up. Plus things change. Princeton army and navy have more nattys than most schools…
@sc100ott
@sc100ott Ай бұрын
If your long show had a brief 3-5 minute segment every time on “what’s going on in the G5”, I would definitely take that as a positive. You don’t need to spend 30 minutes talking about Kent State recruiting, but maybe touch on a new coaching staff, or teams vying for conference championships, or rising star players, etc.
@ryanfoster6127
@ryanfoster6127 Ай бұрын
Agreed, he could do a 5-10 min segment on all FBS teams to preview their seasons as a count down to the season based on his ranking of each team.
@billsimpson6136
@billsimpson6136 Ай бұрын
He doesn't care about the G5. He wants to ride the coattails of the cool kids in the SEC at least for a few years until they along with the entire sport ceases to be cool or cared about.
@PhonyBalagna
@PhonyBalagna Ай бұрын
There is no way to legally limit literal Name Image and Likeness payments. McDonald's, Nike, American Express, etc. are able to pay someone whatever they want to do a commercial
@jimsomerville3924
@jimsomerville3924 Ай бұрын
But, the "salary" and sole form of compensation won't be coming from NIL. That will be side income for stars.
@mr.rubicon1193
@mr.rubicon1193 Ай бұрын
You could have players sign away their rights to their respective team or conference.
@packerjip9665
@packerjip9665 Ай бұрын
There will only be a few teams that will become the league that gets money from the networks. Teams that are in position of conferences with the network money but do not bring in the ratings will be left out. Everything will go back to Oklahoma lawsuit in the 80's. Ratings will diminish , even in the playoffs unless they come up with NFL rules to try to even out the playing teams. Good luck with that.
@ambivert1970
@ambivert1970 Ай бұрын
Why are conferences guilty of illegal rules the NCAA enforced. NCAA made it illegal for schools to pay players and if they defied them they’d be punished. How are schools guilty in any way? Schools should sue.
@daniels.3062
@daniels.3062 Ай бұрын
What happens to smaller sports or women's sports that are subsidiesed by football money?
@jeffwatson68
@jeffwatson68 Ай бұрын
Josh then what is the end game? Do you think we end up with three level of D1 fb? P2, and 26 team B12 and the G5?
@theread3480
@theread3480 Ай бұрын
Whats going to happen is we will finally stop the insane idea that 133 schools are playing at the same level of football. Why we ever let the FBS expand to 133 schools is insanely idiotic. Yes, the FBS will most likely be broken up into several tiers of D1 football and we can all finally stop acting like Umass and Georgia are playing for the same thing.
@Wierzanski
@Wierzanski Ай бұрын
That was a good explanation for House v NCAA
@JackpotJ
@JackpotJ Ай бұрын
Gonna love the fact that this will tighten the level of competition even more so the idea of “style points” can kick rocks in the near future.
@lostaggie66-canderson17
@lostaggie66-canderson17 Ай бұрын
Josh You should Go Ahead and introduce G5 coverage on Late Kick Because there are absolutel more fans of G5 CFB than just myself. Yes a majority only cares about the NFL FarmLeague but we the little people want you to talk about ALL of the FBS/CFP. subdivision. The MAC, CUSA, American, MW and the Sun Belt Play Damn Good Football and deserve to be covered equally.. Plus We Need that G5 12team playoff joined with the Non NewYear 6 Bowls.
@ryanfoster6127
@ryanfoster6127 Ай бұрын
So would players become employees and if so would they no longer need to enroll in the school to play? Questions to ponder. I wouldn’t mind seeing a split where the top schools become NFL lite and remaining schools brand themselves as traditional college football in that a scholarship is players comp for athletic service.
@Skewerz9
@Skewerz9 Ай бұрын
another thing....if they are going to bring in revenue sharing, you can bet contracts are going to be introduced to "fight" the portal/NIL chaos...schools making players sign multi-year contracts.
@tupactargaryen
@tupactargaryen Ай бұрын
,😂 yeah congress who can’t get anything done is going to fix college football.
@DylanShealy
@DylanShealy Ай бұрын
Come on Josh! Let’s get a 3 hour segment daily on G5 schools
@stevemeloccaro891
@stevemeloccaro891 Ай бұрын
NFL players through contracts get what ya might call a part of the NFL purse, how will collage be different from that, when ya add in the nil and the portal
@ImMeandYouAreYou6942
@ImMeandYouAreYou6942 Ай бұрын
The day revenue sharing takes place, I’m out as a NCAA fan. It’s the last sport I watch. Bring it NCAA, I’d love to have 100% of my time back.
@Wakeywhodat
@Wakeywhodat Ай бұрын
I’m thinking hockey
@ImMeandYouAreYou6942
@ImMeandYouAreYou6942 Ай бұрын
@@Wakeywhodat I do enjoy hockey live.
@blaynebittencourt5076
@blaynebittencourt5076 Ай бұрын
Why ? It's better than what we have now.
@ImMeandYouAreYou6942
@ImMeandYouAreYou6942 Ай бұрын
@@blaynebittencourt5076 I disagree. Players leaving a team and able to transfer 2-3 times without having to sit, players accepting a position for NIL money 💴 not to leave for more NIL. No loyalty. No stability. Yeah, IMO it’s get worse and worse by the day.
@blaynebittencourt5076
@blaynebittencourt5076 Ай бұрын
@@ImMeandYouAreYou6942 yes, that is happening right now. Once they do conference revenue share it will be easier to set guidelines because they will be employees
@ninRAIDER
@ninRAIDER Ай бұрын
I completely agree with everything you said in this video, Josh. If I'm a fan of or a player on a "G5" team I would much rather be on a fair playing field with a legitimate shot at winning a championship against Boise State or UAB than be in a system that's rigged against me with a one-in-a-million shot at beating Ohio State or Georgia.
@rogerwilcoshirley2270
@rogerwilcoshirley2270 Ай бұрын
yes this lilely will occur, the athletes will become wealthy , some incredibly so, and for many if not most there will be no incentive to be a student in any respect. The likely result will be nonstudent ( except in a very notional sense) professional athletic representatives of the universities. This creates a longer term conundum with effects also on pro levels.
@tomlewis645
@tomlewis645 Ай бұрын
A brutal segment
@UzerSomething
@UzerSomething Ай бұрын
Here's a thought. I don't follow G5 at all right now. But if Late Kick did a weekly "G5 Roundup" segment, I'd 200% watch.
@TheSpreadCFB
@TheSpreadCFB Ай бұрын
I grew up loving college football it breaks my heart to see it being ruined. They couldn’t leave it alone RIP to the greatest sport ever
@ambivert1970
@ambivert1970 Ай бұрын
Does this mean players can play for as many years as they’d like?
@GHoutdoors
@GHoutdoors Ай бұрын
I think g5 should definitely have something like the nit in basketball
@SilverThePeacemaker
@SilverThePeacemaker Ай бұрын
Well, better buy CFB 25 and just watch the simulations 50 years from now in dynasty mode. They'll be more entertaining than CFB a couple years from now with only the B10 and SEC relevant. 💀 It's also sad that with NIL we may never witness THE Cinderella Group of 5 team ever again with all their top talent always leaving nowadays. The point of recruiting hidden gems for non-elite is gone too if they will always leave to the SEC and B10 as soon as they half reach their potential. This also makes it impossible for non-elite programs with no history to make a name for themselves as a result. It's a sad time for CFB, I may stop watching regularly pretty quick if the competition divides as quickly as I expect. I already miss old CFB, and this is a 20 year old speaking on this matter. 😢 😭
@theread3480
@theread3480 Ай бұрын
In the past 19 years, only two schools not from the SEC and B10 won national championships, that being clemson and florida state. The SEC and B10 have combined for 16 out of the last 19 national championships. What exactly is going to change?
@SurferRC
@SurferRC Ай бұрын
@@theread3480thats the problem they limited access and used bias to kill the sport
@michaelbee2165
@michaelbee2165 Ай бұрын
Hopefully, there are enough CFB fans, and the schools/universities in each state can get Congress on board with anti-trust exemption.
@johnathantroxtel1502
@johnathantroxtel1502 Ай бұрын
100% TRUTH!!
@jpDragna
@jpDragna Ай бұрын
@~6:40 you talk about turning it up to 11. I think as a strict numbers game yeah, it's going to be 11, but this was the thing that Saban always avoided talking about with his whinging about players getting paid, relatively speaking, nothing's changing. In 2008 SEC signs a historic multi-billion dollar TV deal with ESPN. In the 15 seasons since that was signed 11 national title winners were from the SEC. In the 15 years prior, 5 were from the SEC, including LSU's split with USC in 2003. Money always mattered, and relatively speaking, nothing's really changed other than who is going to get paid (players), and how much money is involved (more than there should be, good shout gambling addiction). That 2008 TV deal gave SEC teams more money for facilities, upgrades, coaching staffs, and probably some under the table or "creative" funding for student athletes. Saban was an all time great coach, but it didn't hurt that his assistants made more than most other team's head coaches, or that during his tenure Alabama spent over $150 million in stadium and facilities upgrades, and has another $600 million earmarked over 10 years starting in 2019, over $100 million of which is already ear marked for just stadium upgrades that will include "additional premium seating and upgraded spaces for athletes and recruits." Mind you in 2006 Alabama upgraded Byand-Denny to the tune of $47 million in upgrades, but just 3 years later in 2009 (after that multi billion dollar ESPN deal), they approved $80.6 million in expansions unanimously.
@DHTex11
@DHTex11 Ай бұрын
Baseball and Basketball as well?
@williamdavis346
@williamdavis346 Ай бұрын
The Jr. Pro League. I guess I'll make an opening day decision whether I want to watch or not.
@Bonfree24
@Bonfree24 Ай бұрын
I really just dislike how you can’t follow recruits throughout their time in college as much due to the “green pastures” in the transfer portal.
@jayhamlin5718
@jayhamlin5718 Ай бұрын
How was that Bama v Texas Rose Bowl game? lol jp your content is always awesome!
@mrSK83RB0Y94
@mrSK83RB0Y94 Ай бұрын
Michigan only sometimes exists to him
@spidaman0112
@spidaman0112 Ай бұрын
Talk about g5 show clips do a segment for them. Have a friend do it off your josh. We will watch it's football.
@mr.rubicon1193
@mr.rubicon1193 Ай бұрын
Players can be employees, but don't get it twisted... they aren't entitled to the entire pie that the public built when we invested in these universities.
@OtaconOcelot
@OtaconOcelot Ай бұрын
I was in pee wee football during the mike shula era, Ive seen the best NCAA football has to offer and ever will be able to offer lol rtr
@austindailey8746
@austindailey8746 Ай бұрын
It's basically an nfl AAA league now. After this, you could go to ufl, then get picked up by nfl. All of this just removes any excitement in every game. Sports are lame now. Thanks, America! You even managed to destroy sports. Good job!
@PhonyBalagna
@PhonyBalagna Ай бұрын
MORE DIVISION 2 SEGMENTS!!!
@TJordanWDE
@TJordanWDE Ай бұрын
And if this bs happens, then these professional athletes also need to be under contract...
@Skewerz9
@Skewerz9 Ай бұрын
revenue sharing is going to take money away from the olympic sports. Before, schools were funneling more money into the olympic sports because universities are non-profit, so schools like Ohio state had lots of money to funnel into other sports...this will now go away. I don't know how this will affect less affluent sports schools, as they had less to shovel to the other sports, but the big programs are going to have much less to support the olympic sports...
@randyjackson2938
@randyjackson2938 Ай бұрын
I miss the BCS years and the old way of college football. While everyone was happy about the transfer portal and players getting paid. After media rights deals come put. They will be forced to play. In there bowl games.
@harryhoesch3793
@harryhoesch3793 Ай бұрын
I remember when it used to be fun. Back with 1)student 2)athletes. Now so many greedy corporate hands all wanting to hold the enjoyment hostage. At this point, go have fun on Saturdays and catch the condensed game later that night or Sunday. To see a game at a stadium, what a fleecing that experience is. Why does it have to be the best damn sport going?
@Rageousss
@Rageousss Ай бұрын
If the damage from NIL, TP, and Playoff aren’t already irreversible it will be by time they realize they fucked up
@buckshot6481
@buckshot6481 Ай бұрын
Oh great, reparations for amateur football. I'm glad a FULL RIDE SCHOLARSHIP is peanuts. It was a lot when I had to work 60 hrs a week to pay my way in school !
@WithaJoeFro
@WithaJoeFro Ай бұрын
I don't disagree. This is solely about a small group making a ton of money and has nothing to do with the welfare of the sport or the players. It's a testament to what our society has become.
@theread3480
@theread3480 Ай бұрын
I mean you shouldn't have to pay 200,000 fucking dollars just to go to college anyway
@the_bottle_imp
@the_bottle_imp Ай бұрын
Can CFB just slow down the changes for a minute?
@evanschneider7123
@evanschneider7123 Ай бұрын
They could all make more money if they engaged in collective bargaining, but that would mean the SEC and B1G put their more favorable contracts on the table.
@txsportsfreak02
@txsportsfreak02 Ай бұрын
2024 is by far the most historic and important year for college football.
@rwcoving
@rwcoving Ай бұрын
And the most damaging.
@williamgreen9865
@williamgreen9865 Ай бұрын
BOTTOM LINE PAST WEEK 6 OF THE SEASON, ONLY A HANDFUL OF GAMES WILL MATTER, ONCE ANY TEAM IS OUT OF PLAYOFF CONTENTION MOST STADIUMS WILL BE HALF EMPTY AND ONLY GAMES WITH A PLAYOFF BERTH WILL MATTER. COLLEGE FOOTBALL NO LONGER EXIST, IT IS A NFL FARM LEAGUE. ONLY A HANDFUL OF TEAMS MATTER EVERY YEAR. QUALITY OF PLAY WILL TANK
@theread3480
@theread3480 Ай бұрын
Fans still show up now even when their teams have nothing left to play for. Historically 99% of schools are out of playoff contention before the season even starts. Stop being so dramatic.
@williamgreen9865
@williamgreen9865 Ай бұрын
@theread3480 Disagree, FANS CAME TO SEE PLAYERS FOR 4 YEARS, THAT IS OUT THE WINDOW NOW. MONEY/NIL HAS CHANGED THAT, RUINED COLLEGE FOOTBALL. HALF OF EVERY TEAM TRANSFERS NOW. PRICED AVERAGE FAN OUT OF GAME TOO. THIS YEAR WHEN POWER 5 TEAMS ARE OUT OF THE PLAYOFFS YOU WILL SEE LOW TV RATINGS AND LOW ATTENDANCE. MARK IT DOWN. RICH GETTING RICHER, POOR GETTING POORER, JUST LIKE SOCIETY. ONLY GOOD GAMES WILL BE ON NATIONAL TV FEATURING POTENTIAL PLAYOFF TEAMS, OTHER POWER 5 TEAMS, 2 OR MORE LOSSES, PLAYERS WILL BE LOOKING TO TRANSFER SOMEWHERE ELSE TO WIN OR MAKE MORE MONEY. QUALITY OF PLAY WILL DECREASE TOO OVERALL.
@aroundthehouse8472
@aroundthehouse8472 Ай бұрын
Bama vs texas rose bowl? I am 53 years old, my memory isn't what it use to be, but i know for a fact, it wasn't bama vs texas in the rose bowl.
@aroundthehouse8472
@aroundthehouse8472 Ай бұрын
@@richardhead-sw2qc yes i know. But i dont think josh was referring to 2010. Replay it.
@robindodd1969
@robindodd1969 Ай бұрын
Nobody is talking about the harm this will have on other sports programs like baseball, track, soccer, etc.
@hallowrant8091
@hallowrant8091 Ай бұрын
If you cant stop NIL in the fashion it currently is, CFB is still doomed
@jonathanpowell2990
@jonathanpowell2990 Ай бұрын
Clemson has to get out of the ACC! I hope we join the SEC!
@scottd1903
@scottd1903 Ай бұрын
Profit sharing is a great first step in reigning in NIL and the portal. The B10 and SEC (and the other 2 power conferences if they want) need to come together and form their own governing body. The NCAA is completely useless now and should be left out. They need an agreed upon set of rules that include things like a set "salary" for players, NIL cannot come directly or indirectly from the schools themselves and cannot be used for recruiting, and limitations on the portal. No spring transfers from participating conferences (the SEC already has this rule) and limit the number of penalty free transfers per player to 1. This will protect the things that make cfb unique and special while still giving players the opportunity to improve their situations. It needs to be done before it's too late and cfb has year-round free agency and players go to the highest bidder.
@Wakeywhodat
@Wakeywhodat Ай бұрын
Say what you want about how this affects the game, but one thing is certain, prices are going UP!
@LGWalker09
@LGWalker09 Ай бұрын
SEC needs 68 million a year to pay 85 players per team a 50k base salary every year. Is there enough tv money to do this in every conference?
@cisco1dog
@cisco1dog Ай бұрын
Your math is terrible? 68 million pays 1360 players, $50k a year.
@jasonbrown2894
@jasonbrown2894 Ай бұрын
@@cisco1dog 85 (players per team) * 16 (# of teams in SEC) = 1360. So his math was sorta ok, but he didn't communicate very goodly.
@cisco1dog
@cisco1dog Ай бұрын
Yep!
@troywest7045
@troywest7045 Ай бұрын
If they do revenue sharing, i guess the B1G will have to give the PNW schools full shares early.
@otisjohnjr.3023
@otisjohnjr.3023 Ай бұрын
Can't wait for the helmet communication so Crying Ryan can go back to the weather as being an excuse.
@tonybaggett1984
@tonybaggett1984 Ай бұрын
Happening pretty much how I thought. G5 has got to right now break away and start making their own championship. If they do it now they can secure tv deals and still be relevant. BIG 10 and SEC will be big boy college football. ACC, PAC 12, BIG 12 will be dissolved in a few years or just a shell. The remaining teams in those conferences better go to the BIG 10 or SEC with their hat in hand. BTW with revenue sharing and anti-trust you better believe that the BIG 10 and SEC will trim the fat on underperforming schools and I'm not talking about academics. It's fixing to be a money game like the NFL. Meaning rules and contracts with a bottom line. If teams aren't getting the eyeballs and other teams are that are out of conference then then that team is gone. Looking at you Vanderbilt.
@mweil1
@mweil1 Ай бұрын
JP, calm down on dying on the G5 hill. You're better than that
@LaytonFreeze
@LaytonFreeze Ай бұрын
Lol. This sounds like an awful deal for players. Let me get this straight - CFB has a punishment coming for what they've gotten away with for forever, and the conferences want to parlay their punishment into control? Hahahaha NO. Pay the settlement and that is the end of it. Unreal. "Since we're doing this.." They'll be court ordered to pay. It's not a favor.
@johncollins688
@johncollins688 Ай бұрын
Revenue sharing. Too complicated. Go to the extreme...players are paid employees with enforceable contracts (think NFL). Players do not need to be students....they are just paid employees playing ball. Can have salary limits which do not impact NIL. NIL needs to be limited to "personal" promotion which does not impose on the school's right to control their brand name. NIL to not be connected to schools in any way. I do not personally like this route but bet I could see someone play at one school more than one season.
@1coachoogs
@1coachoogs Ай бұрын
Do you remember a couple years ago you asked what was coming. I made a comment that we we’re heading to an nfl model. Several people commented on my response. Said I was smoking wacky weed.
@bobbyaxelrod5959
@bobbyaxelrod5959 Ай бұрын
Oh you were smokin, but it was good shit.
@wmrat1969
@wmrat1969 Ай бұрын
2014 everyone said NCAA heading to a NFL model, that was the first year of the playoff.
@brucehoffmann2126
@brucehoffmann2126 Ай бұрын
Mark my words, if football has to pay their revenue out to the players Then the non-revenue sports are going to start disappearing. The money to keep them active is going to disappear into the paychecks for football players.Non-revenue sports at universities are going to be greatly reduced if not disappeared entirely. This will be a major setback to women’s athletics.
@jarvisbrazzel6975
@jarvisbrazzel6975 Ай бұрын
Hey Jesse, please put a soft gate on JP’s mic. I shouldn’t be able to hear him swallow his spit. Geez 🙄 😅
@PrimeTimeVol87
@PrimeTimeVol87 Ай бұрын
Its hilarious ppl think this is the end of college football even tho ratings are higher than ever. Then claim they wont watch anymore because players will get paid and go to a place that best benefits them lol.
@user-jo9jw5su8e
@user-jo9jw5su8e Ай бұрын
What kind of relationship, if any, will these new “pro” teams have with the schools with whom they had been affiliated? A very lucrative licensing agreement for the use of the name, logo, etc.?
@brentchapman9174
@brentchapman9174 Ай бұрын
Lawyers ruin again.... greed is always the downfall.
@bigkev4410
@bigkev4410 Ай бұрын
With all the changes why don't they change the way they crown a so called recuiting wars champion. ND would be ranked 14th not #1 It should be Quality over quantity.
@GavinSchmavin44
@GavinSchmavin44 Ай бұрын
Wdym? NDs got quality recruits??
@bigkev4410
@bigkev4410 Ай бұрын
@@GavinSchmavin44 ND Avg. per player is 90.64 11 4 star players and 9 3 star players for a total of 20 players.Ohio State Avg. 94.70 3 5 Star Players 8 4 Star and 2 3 Star players for a total of 13 players. So who has the best class?
@SurferRC
@SurferRC Ай бұрын
Recruiting rankings are all bs anyway. The fact that there are the same number of 5 stars every year proves this…
@GavinSchmavin44
@GavinSchmavin44 Ай бұрын
@@bigkev4410 it's not all about rating you know. By that logic Florida should be top 10 given they only have 3 guys recruited?? Classes are based of off classes. ND would still have them as a top 5-10 class. And when did anyone get "crowned" for winning the "recruiting war"?? Doesn't make much sense
@lknight3764
@lknight3764 Ай бұрын
USF to SEC… 😅
@rickysmith133
@rickysmith133 Ай бұрын
If the players are paid they should sign they will not transfer unless they are cut from the team!
@tonsofgunsoffun8516
@tonsofgunsoffun8516 Ай бұрын
Schools should eliminate scholarships. “We’ll pay you $60,000 a year for you to play football for us….now you owe us $75,000 for tuition”
@kingjim238524
@kingjim238524 Ай бұрын
Lol they make more than that now. Why would you want to make war with the very thing that supports majority of schools?
@FLA813BMO
@FLA813BMO Ай бұрын
So keep the student loan debt machine rolling?
@lylemoore3827
@lylemoore3827 Ай бұрын
​@@FLA813BMO make them realize they had it good before this NIL bs. The way its going, they won't even be students anymore...just employees lol
@tonsofgunsoffun8516
@tonsofgunsoffun8516 Ай бұрын
@@FLA813BMO if you can’t afford school don’t go.
@davidvines6498
@davidvines6498 Ай бұрын
Let the NFL start a minor league for the 4 and 5 Star players and let the Colleges and Universities hand out scholarships to High School graduates that play because they love the game but plan on majoring in anything but the NFL
@mediaserver1330
@mediaserver1330 Ай бұрын
This sport really is turning into the NFL. Money is all that it's about now. I've been watching for four decades and I don't think it's worth continuing to watch. I enjoyed watching student athletes competing for their schools, not professional athletes competing for lucrative financial contracts. It looks to me that Nick Saban was right and its time to exit. I'm just going to remember college football as it was. I don't want to continue to watch the fall.
@timmyotool71
@timmyotool71 Ай бұрын
Confirmed. Josh Pate doesn’t actually love college football. He just likes KZbin views.
@LateKickwithJoshPate
@LateKickwithJoshPate Ай бұрын
stop being weird
@buckysnodgrass9252
@buckysnodgrass9252 Ай бұрын
Don't shoot the messenger. What he's saying isn't something he made up.
@otisjohnjr.3023
@otisjohnjr.3023 Ай бұрын
Josh never believe Thamel, he's trash.
@emc_squar3479
@emc_squar3479 Ай бұрын
Why does this guy talk like the sec makes more money than the BIG10.. it doesn't. Just the tv deal Big10 has 1.14 billion yearly versus sec 740 million. It doesn't take a math genius to figure this out.
@joshgrothues7871
@joshgrothues7871 Ай бұрын
Relegate the g5 and FBS cfb is dead too mme
@bprid135
@bprid135 Ай бұрын
what a mess hah
@brutussmithers6341
@brutussmithers6341 Ай бұрын
FSU to the Big Ten. Money will eventually destroy all sports. Including college football.
@thekell
@thekell Ай бұрын
These are no longer students. Real students should sue for resources being wasted on these professional athletes
@737smartin
@737smartin Ай бұрын
They directly bring in net profit at the best schools, and arguably at many others when you factor in the marketing value add.
@litedawg
@litedawg Ай бұрын
@@737smartinok so?
@FLA813BMO
@FLA813BMO Ай бұрын
@@litedawgnone of those schools nor regular students would have any of the resources they have if it weren’t for the football team. Football brings in MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN PROFIT to schools. Who in their right mind would have an issue with that?
@wmrat1969
@wmrat1969 Ай бұрын
@@FLA813BMO Before all of this pay the players these schools were well established without paying players and doing fine, there is no need to pay them, they are getting a chance at a great education of their choice for payment. Still waiting on a school to announce this Orange Bowl victory paid out 20million and we are going to build a new Physics Lab.
@737smartin
@737smartin Ай бұрын
@@litedawg So...that blows any "case" these "real students" might have. It's pretty obvious. Embarrassed to have to connect the dots for you. 🤦‍♂️
@Brownmichael420
@Brownmichael420 Ай бұрын
All I can say is GO DUCKS
@paulvarnell
@paulvarnell Ай бұрын
Who should I vote for in the election to make sure Congress gives CFB antitrust exemptions? I’m a one issue voter. 😂
@reconsoldier135
@reconsoldier135 Ай бұрын
RFK Jr, he sounds crazy enough to back that idea
@P.Harmony
@P.Harmony Ай бұрын
I'm writing in JP
@panamiha
@panamiha Ай бұрын
College. minor leagues coming up
@rodgerbane3825
@rodgerbane3825 Ай бұрын
I always have to ask myself, what is going on psychologically and mentally when some old guy is VERY invested emotionally in wanting to see young men have to work VERY hard for very little pay. I wonder if there is a word for that?
@WithaJoeFro
@WithaJoeFro Ай бұрын
What are you even talking about?
@SurferRC
@SurferRC Ай бұрын
@@WithaJoeFronobody knows 😂
@rwcoving
@rwcoving Ай бұрын
@@SurferRC 😅
@trclark7689
@trclark7689 Ай бұрын
This sucks.
@austinshannon4197
@austinshannon4197 Ай бұрын
College football these days is dead, to many stupid rules.
@dr7820
@dr7820 Ай бұрын
I loath the fact that these college athletes are getting some money for the billions they generate every year. This is just rediculous. That money is meant for rich white men in nice suits!
@hawaiianLAB
@hawaiianLAB Ай бұрын
82nd video by pate that states "vague big changes are coming, trust me".
@_JusTony_
@_JusTony_ Ай бұрын
This comment section is sickening yall are upset that these kids are getting payed but wasn’t upset when the NCAA , espn , their colleges, were making billions of dollars of these players hard work… these players deserve a scholarship, NIL , and revenue sharing, they’ve always deserved it because they are the reason you have something to watch on Saturday in the first place … this is long overdue… the players have been in it for the money … but it was okay when your school was paying players under the table… let’s make it legitimate and “fair” for everyone
@SurferRC
@SurferRC Ай бұрын
🤡😂
@hellnuts1
@hellnuts1 Ай бұрын
So, greed is going to kill my favorite sport? What's the point of the NCAA if they have absolutely no power in the grand scheme of things? They'll be 130 FBS teams where really only 30 are competitive.
@stephenreid6099
@stephenreid6099 Ай бұрын
The people in the comments claiming “to be done” if this happens are moronic. These are literally grown adults, citizens of this country, making billions, with a B, for these schools and a scholarship doesn’t even start to scratch the surface of their market value. All of the “I’m done” crowd, go to your nearest corporation and say you will work for rent, food and continuing education, because that’s what you are claiming lmfao
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