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[@kentmemories]

I watched your channel first, because the images you took were always excellent

[@JoshCameron]

@@kentmemories ah really appreciate this, thank you very much!

[@LaurenceLee]

Can't wait to see comparisons of this vs the Samyang 35-150 f2-2.8

[@JoshCameron]

Currently trying to get my hands on the 35-150!

[@LaurenceLee]

@@JoshCameron I'll be ready when you do.

[@Valerossi0]

Agree, I’d like to see the comparison also ☺️

[@samuelboagraphy]

@@JoshCameron i can borrow you mine

[@filipmichalsaffray441]

Me too😂😂

[@OasisExplorer]

Would like to see an honest comparison between this Sigma 28-105 vs the Lumix 28-200, if possible then also include the Samyang 35-150.

[@samiiromaar]

VOTE HERE PEOPLE

[@fototeknika-rg1lm]

It will destroy the 28-200. That lens is not optically impressive in terms of IQ

[@gamadesigner3702]

I also want this comparison. I must admit that I'm torn between two of these lenses, the SAMYANG and the SIGMA.

[@KillerTacos54]

Glorious! Thanks as always for shedding light on these new lenses using the LUMIX! The market around new lenses on Sony cameras is painfully oversaturated

[@DailyShortFix]

please do a comparison to the lumix 24-105 f4

[@pc1234asdf]

the L mount needs the equivalent of the nikon Z 24-120 S lens. It's blistering sharp, zero flaws, a system-seller.

[@brent.cowley]

The Samyang 35-150mm f2-2.8 is a beast! I haven't specifically tested its sharpness wide open but it seems really solid in general use and is such a fantastic all-rounder lens.

[@Princeton_James]

In the past ive gotten these amazing sigma lenses for my Sony and Panasonic. I'll probably get this for the Sony but when ive done my own sigma vs S Pro (70-200 and 24-70) S Pro smoked sigma every time. I believe your tests and appreciate your honest review.

[@chcomes]

As a potential buyer... vs. Lumix 24-105 gain 1 stop lose 4mm lose IS similar macro similar sharpness larger and heavier a bit more expensive vs. Samyang 35-150 lose up to 1 stop gain 7mm (wide) lose 45mm (telephoto) no IS either gain macro a bit more expensive lighter a bit sharper, possibly I will wait for the Lumix wide aperture lens that should be coming soon.

[@bradleyjpaolucci]

What lens do you think is coming next that is wide aperture?

[@raksh9]

I haven't noticed a wide aperture zoom on the Panasonic road map, so I'm curious where you got that information. The Samyang is reportedly very iffy with autofocus on L mount, and has quality control issues. The Panasonic 24-105 f4 is a decent lens but nothing to write home about, it lacks 'sparkle' in the images if that makes sense.

[@chcomes]

the lens roadmap has a 24-60, aperture unknown, but in older roadmaps in Japanese it said large aperture zoom...

[@OnoSenoCuk]

Why you didnt pair it with older s series, we would like to see how the afc behave

[@MrMolotov69]

If it had IS I would definitely consider it but the size is way too bulky and heavy when you compare it to the Lumix 24-105 f4

[@meekzz00]

Lovely review Josh, as always! I wanted to get your thoughts on the comparison between the Sigma 28-105 and the Samyang 35-150. I recently got the Samyang for my S5IIX camera, but I'm considering returning it to test out the Sigma before making a final decision. While many people seem excited about the Samyang lens, I have some concerns: 1. The build quality feels lacking, with noticeable wiggle room around the mount and lens creep becoming an issue after just a few days of use, especially when shooting at extreme angles. 2. The autofocus is slow and not always accurate, especially in medium and low light. I've experienced it detecting random objects instead of focusing on the intended subject. Continuous autofocus doesn't work well, with noticeable focus breathing. 3. I've encountered lens connection errors, although they have decreased after a software update. However, my camera still froze once since the update. 4. When not shooting wide open, the FPS drops significantly, making it difficult to shoot in burst mode. Even with electronic shutter, the performance is subpar, and it feels like the shutter is choking. I reached out to Samyang support, and they acknowledged the autofocus issues and connection errors. They mentioned that the software update addressed some of these concerns but not fully. I'd appreciate hearing about your experiences with this lens and how you've managed these issues.

[@meekzz00]

P.S. According to Samyang, this update (v2.1): - Improved video mode performance - Improved vignetting correction performance - Improved shutter lag and aperture operation speed when shooting continuous shots - Improved operation stability (1) Improved lens attachment failed issue on Panasonic cameras (2) Improved operation of custom mode function 'Dolly Shot' Of course there is a possibility that I've received a bad copy of the lens, but since I raised my concerns with Samyang and they didn't offer taking it to examine, I decided to send it back.

[@fototeknika-rg1lm]

Comparison with the 24-105?

[@ernstvandijk6342]

Your weight numbers may apply to the E-mount version. As for the sharpness test, I don't see any difference.

[@LuisFelipeBustilloVelasquez]

Josh I just bought a lumix s5ii, I'm coming from a Sony a7iv, and I feel Lightroom treats different the highlights for the raws of lumix than Sony, when you lower it to -70 it changes like the highlight representation.

[@ericluisphotography]

So you just learned camera raws handle differently. I personally think you've made a huge mistake going Sony to Lumix. Coming from canon to Sony, the Sony files are sooo much more malleable it's ludicrous. To each his own 🤷

[@nileshjaitly]

Which lens are you using for your A roll? It looks great.

[@JoshCameron]

For this video I used the 18mm F1.8 for the talking shots!

[@Tacuddin]

I wish this was 24mm on the wider end

[@michaelgreenvideo]

When I noticed my 35-150mm L mount had lens creep, I messaged the supplier about it, as I know that in the reviews I have heard it should be corrected in the L Mount, but they said that that was not the case. Perhaps the one sent for review have been treated differently, or mine is just defective and the supplier just isn't aware that it's not supposed to be the same as other mounting options.

[@Zizos]

Did you try any video AF with it?

[@ajitshrestha143]

i have sigma 16-28 and im thinking of getting another lens should i get tamron 25-150 or Sigma just announced 28-105 2.8…?? appreciate your suggestions😀

[@annekedebruyn7797]

Does the lens extent when you point it down? I had a few lenses like these which extents by itself when you have the lens zoomed half way and pointing down. Big nono for video work.

[@obscurelines]

Not sure I realised there was someone else using l mount in Brighton!

[@JoshCameron]

I'm very close to Brighton (Around 50 mins away) but go there a lot to shoot example content ! :D

[@pureheartvisuals]

Josh do you think other than the addition 35mm range…. How would you compare this to the Sigma 28-70. Are we talking night and day difference in image?

[@JoshCameron]

Not a night and day difference by any means (unless you’re a pixel peeper), but the 28-105 is definitely the sharper lens. It’s constructed with higher quality glass since it’s an Art series lens compared to a contemporary series lens :)

[@pureheartvisuals]

@@JoshCameron Thanks for the insight Josh. I have the Sigma 16-28, the 28-70 & adapted my Canon 70-200. I am super happy with the 28-70 but it did hit me to maybe combine the 28-70 & 70 - 200 into this one lens. But I’m faced with the same problem 😂 give up the 28-70 to gain 35mm more or give up both 28-70 & 70-200 for the 28-105 and lose 95mm more in exchange for a single lens. The Goals was to reduce weight but this is a big consideration in losing Focal Length.

[@colhutchins]

Thanks for the review josh. Quick question: Back when you had the panasonic 24-105 would you have traded the loss at the wide end from 24 to 28 for the extra stop of light?

[@JoshCameron]

That’s a great question mate! Honestly, I probably would have loved the F2.8 at 105mm because it produces such amazing compression and subject separation. That being said, the IBIS with the Lens IS made shooting with the 24-105 so much fun. The extra 4mm on the wider end doesn’t bother me too much though to be honest :)

[@colhutchins]

@@JoshCameron Thanks mate 🙂

[@geoffreybassett6741]

Great review! Some wonderful image examples and @3:53 Not only is the Panasonic sharper but the image also has higher contrast. Curious what the distortion is like on the wide end with image correction turned off? Is it barrel, pincushion, or wavy? One of my favorite aspects of the Leica 24-90 is that it's barrel at the wide end and is actually wider than 24mm.

[@ТарасГалишко-х9ц]

Is this parfocal lens?

[@zerodeefex7765]

How bad is it on the s9 with a grip? I’ve been using the 85mm f1.4 comfortably but this might actually be too big 😅

[@sebastienbadio9208]

lol it would look absolutely ridiculous

[@JoshCameron]

S9 + 28-105 F2.8 = would not recommend 😂😂

[@zerodeefex7765]

I sort of want ridiculous 🤣

[@Aviciiz]

Good video Josh

[@JoshCameron]

Thank you 😁

[@orinorio1]

Nice video Josh. Wonder how many lens you got now ? Lol.. As much as I understand the use of a zoom lens i always will perfer prime lens. Even when I use a zoom lens I tend to stick with the FL of 35mm.

[@JoshCameron]

Hahaha too many! Although I don’t get to keep any of the Sigma glass I review on the channel :) Ah that’s interesting - I always tend to use zooms for their closer focal lengths !

[@orinorio1]

@@JoshCameron If I need close up shots I just use the 50 will be getting the 85 soon too. But I tend to also shoot in 35mm. Even for the MFT cameras I have make sure i close ro 35mm as possible. Way I figured if I'm shooting 50fps then it's a crop and it's in 4k so can always bring the videos in more if needed. I personally think zoom lenses are more for photography and prime is more for video.

[@lumixS5M2]

not negative, for me sometime not good hearing if yo0 say 20 to 205, thanks for video ;)

[@Jtkfhffjkb48494]

How is the build quality vs premium lenses like G master or Canon L?

[@JoshCameron]

@@Jtkfhffjkb48494 The Art series lenses are always built very well, and this lens is no exception. I’d argue that it’s on par with the L series and the G Masters :)

[@johnnymauser7577]

Thx for the video! I have one question: if you shoot in shutter speed mode, so variable aperture, are the changes in aperture smoothly made by the S5ii(x)?

[@JoshCameron]

I actually haven’t tested that since I shoot in manual always, but I can give it a try and let you know :)

[@johnnymauser7577]

@@JoshCameron thx, please do so! I sometimes shoot longform theater where that would be very handy!

[@AvantNoir]

If it had IS it would be a one a done for me for video

[@illustriouspics1]

What was that mic setup around 2:30? Great video once again 👏🏻

[@JoshCameron]

It’s the Comica CVM-VM30 running into the Rode Wireless Pro recording 32bit float! Thanks for watching 🥳

[@A1000Truths]

Random question what’s your thoughts on the Sigma 50mm F1.4 vs the Sigma F1.2. Is it worth the additional $400 bucks or so.

[@JoshCameron]

They’re both incredible lenses. f1.2 on full frame is extremely shallow, so you’ll need to be careful with where you put your focus. The 1.4 would suffice for me personally :)

[@A1000Truths]

@@JoshCameron thanks man ! That’s what I’m thinking. I rented the F1.2 and thought it was good but really shallow which makes sense but not to my liking personally. I think for price to value the F1.4 makes more sense for my use case. Love your videos! Keep up the good work.

[@wojciechczupta]

how IQ compares to Sigma 24-70 wide open?

[@campingismylife9394]

Between Sigma 28-105 F2.8 ($1499) or Lumix S 35mm F1.8 + Lumix S 50mm F1.8 + Lumix S 85mm F1.8 ($1350 for all 3) Which would you recommend and why?

[@eyeamstrongest]

id say it depends on your style of shooting, if you like to be able to capture in the moment or need the extra reach, the zoom would be good, but if you prefer a more planned approach or need the additional dof the primes wont let you down

[@campingismylife9394]

Actually, if I could add another option; Sigma 28-70mm F2.8 + Lumix S 85mm F1.8 ($1,100 for both) Since I already have the Sigma S 14-28mm F4/5.6, this would complete my trinity. I figured the further the lens focal length, the bigger the aperture needed to get more light in. Any thoughts?

[@sureshmp7118]

ls this lens can use for Nikon Z mount ?

[@JoshCameron]

Only L-Mount and E-Mount for now :)

[@madsonit]

Appreciate the time you spent testing this but I did have to note that in my opinion this looks like a rushed one, even leaning unfair towards the Sigma lens. Why? 1. You should test multiple focal lengths, not just 50mm. The Sigma lens is a 28, 35, 50, 85 and 105 in a single lens. Why test only 50? 2. Why did you only zoom on the outer edge to compare the sharpness? Why not the center as well? It would've taken you only a few more seconds to do that. Time constraint clearly wouldn't be an explanation so...? From your test it looks like the 28-105 is a bad lens at 2.8 when it comes to sharpness. From other tests I've seen, this lens is great at 2.8 as well, especially in the middle. Looks pretty biased to me.

[@JoshCameron]

There’s absolutely no bias here whatsoever. I get a product to test for a week or two, and I try to cover as much as I can within that time. I also have client work on the go, as well as various other video concepts to film too. I apologise that I couldn’t test every single focal length of each lens and compare them side by side, it just wasn’t feasible with the time I had. Both lenses displayed incredible centre sharpness, in fact most modern lenses would since that’s where they’re designed to be the most sharp. Therefore, I wanted to show some kind of result as you deviate slightly from the middle. I’m happy to share all of the images I’ve taken via DropBox if you would like to do your own observation :) I don’t get paid to make these videos mate, in fact I don’t even get to keep the product, so everything I’m doing here is for the love of doing it. I apologise if this video didn’t hit the mark for you, and can assure you that I never intended to show any bias towards any product. They’re both great lenses, I’d recommend them both highly, and you’ll be happy with whatever you choose to buy in the future :) Appreciate your time, and apologies again that my testing didn’t meet your expectations

[@Mike-Walker-Media]

I recently sold my Sigma 28-70 and bought a Samyang 35-150 which turned out to be a big mistake as the Samyang is utter toilet in comparison to all my other lenses. Terrible build quality, incredibly soft optics and horrible AF issues. That lens is being returned and I have just ordered a Panasonic 24-105 F4 as I need more range than the 28-70. I'll try out the Panasonic but may end up selling that for the Sigma 28-105 when it comes out, I'm hoping though that I'll be happy with the Panasonic as I shoot hand held video so will really appreciate the internal stabilisation.

[@A1000Truths]

I’ll take the Sigma 28-70mm F2.8. Weight over everything

[@Rehvidepaigaldus]

whaaaaaaaaaaaat :O

[@andersistbesser]

Not sharp a 2.8 is very sad. I will skip this one

[@daysandwords]

It isn't NOT sharp. Look at the image closely. At 100% it's very very very very very VERY slightly softer than the 24-70. This lens is sharper than ANY lens that existed in 2005.

[@andersistbesser]

@@daysandwords well we dont live in 2005 when bad 720 p video was normal.. to me its very ovious that it is not sharp compared to other good lenses

[@harryvlogs7833]

Not happy it's 28 instead of 24

[@HGQjazz]

Then you should get the 24-105 f4 IS.

[@harryvlogs7833]

@HGQjazz already have the 24-105 lumix

[@daysandwords]

​@@harryvlogs7833So you're not happy that the lens you don't need isn't... different. Honestly. If it had been 16-300 f1.4 you'd complain that it wasn't F1.2.

[@harryvlogs7833]

@daysandwords no I wouldn't this lens is supposed to be like canon and lumix 24-105 but 2.8 but they put a terrible 28mm on wide which ruins it

[@EpithetMusicTV]

4mm is a fair compromise to have a lighter and smaller lens at 2.8. Just see the size and weight of the canon 24-105 2.8, it’s a beast.

[@specialized41]

Useless review you compare Orange with Apples. Why no compare with Sony 24-105 F/4....?? Review 👎🏼

[@JoshCameron]

Because I don’t have a Sony camera, it’s pretty simple to figure out

[@stathorinoakenshield6331]

That is a shit comparison actually.

[@Kuw2006]

Nobody needs this … 35-150 Tamron… Save your Money !

[@Mike-Walker-Media]

Not available for L Mount

[@harryvlogs7833]

What no lens os, ok officially ruined it for me will stick with my 24-105 lumix

[@colhutchins]

Does the 24-105 have lens OS?

[@harryvlogs7833]

@@colhutchins yes

[@vaib.shfilms]

For fcks sake. Everyone whose been following you purchased 28-70 f2.8. Now I am sad.

[@JoshCameron]

I cant help what they bring out next unfortunately! I will say though that I still use my 28-70 a lot and it’s a great option for those who also value portability 😁

[@vaib.shfilms]

@@JoshCameron haha I know bro. It's just disappointing.🤣