Increase Your Laptop's GPU Wattage (Updated Guide) - VBIOS Flashing

[@altair3090]

Cant believe bro has 11k subs the quality is nasty good

[@JoshCravesTech]

Appreciate the comment, thank you 🙏

[@gatoblanco9974]

you only find this guy if your on reddit looking for the g14 , would never watched the videos without buying a g14

[@Junaide]

This channel is criminally underrated. Great stuff. 👏👏👏

[@JoshCravesTech]

Thanks for the support!

[@denisnoel3954]

As usual, impressive review, thanks so much for those off the beaten path reviews.

[@BLY447]

Once you push wattage far enough, the power adaptor will be the limit. When I push my miniled modded m16 2022 cpu+gpu to 55+120w (original 45+100w) on sustain workload, battery would drain slowly. The original 240w ac adaptor couldn't keep up but the problem went away when I use my friend's 330w scar adaptor. Good video as always.

[@JoshCravesTech]

Very true!

[@jaya1497]

I did the same on my 2021 g14, but the battery still drains. It seems like the laptop thinks it’s still plugged into the stock wattage plug, when it really is plugged into a 330w, what can I do to fix this power drain issue?? Thank you!

[@jaya1497]

Hey Josh! Could you please help with my comment below this one? I got a 330w charger and a 240w charger (both from Asus) and my 2021 G14 recognizes them both as a 180w charger which results in massive battery drain ): Could you please help with this if you get a chance! Thank you (:

[@alfrisdian7902]

​@@jaya1497yo man i have the same issue have you gotten a solution yet?

[@TheHG210]

Thanks!

[@JoshCravesTech]

Thank you!🙏

[@vncube1]

Thanks for reminding us the 2023 Zephyrus G14 still doesn't have a true successor

[@JoshCravesTech]

Super sad 😔

[@VorteX_SH]

They HAD to ruin the perfect laptop then improve on it

[@aldimusthofa4865]

Hey i randomly found this vid.. I have 4060 75watt on my hp victus I tried this trick and boom it goes to 120watt power limit I tried run some game on it and itu Run awesome Big love bro❤❤❤

[@bryanwashere5010]

The thing about the 4000 series Nvidia laptop cards is that the company literally downgraded most the chip dies and didn't tell customers. They tried to reverse time and create the RTX2050 (which had never existed before the 4000 series was almost on the market). That way their new 3050 didn't seem like it just appeared out of nowhere (which it did). Then Nvidia took the the laptop 4060 and downgraded it's chip die to the next one lower. They also did this to the laptop 4070 (which is really a 8gb desktop 4060). When I attempted to upgrade from an ASUS G15 RTX2060 to an ASUS G17 4070... what I found out was that in reality, i was only getting +2gb more VRAM and some more shaders... but otherwise this wasn't much of an upgrade for spending 1,700. And technically the chip die on the 4070 was the same as the 2060 (only newer). Scammers.

[@nermax7022]

how’s the thermals?

[@aldimusthofa4865]

@@nermax7022 on my device it only reach 95watt max even i use 120watt vbios And the thermal at 85C at peak The thermal limit are on 87C on rtf4060 mobile

[@cheaterhimself]

Hello Josh, when are you gonna do more laptop comparisons? Your OG video comparisons were great!

[@JoshCravesTech]

Next video is 2024 G14 vs G16 vs 2023 G14!

[@bearohan]

​@@JoshCravesTech waiting !! 😊

[@shreeneyajmeri8587]

Thanks so much for the guide, it actually worked on my RTX mobile workstation GPU and I get better performance in both engineering and gaming applications!

[@_carot]

What gpu do you have? I have a dell precision 7670 with the rtx a4500. I want to increase the power but none of the vbios I found works.

[@soulogy]

I did this just now with my Razer Blade 15 Advanced Edition Mid-2021 refresh model laptop and all I can say is... wow. Literally nothing to lose here, just performance gains all the way, thanks for this tutorial! 🌟

[@JoshCravesTech]

Good to know it worked well!

[@Sammy_0712]

Do you think I could do it in my rx 7700s? It’s an Asus Tuf A16 and I would like to increase the tgp to 120

[@volaofresh8768]

thanks dude i flashed my pulse gl66 from 85w to 140w, you are the best

[@asure6760]

I made a mistake and disabled igpu before doing vbios, so there was no screen. Here is the fix before you freak out, buy an usb c to hdmi adapter and connect your adapter to usb 4 port, and ta-da! You have screen back, then fix the vbios.

[@40_VORTEX]

Bro i forgot to disable visualisation and now there is an black screen how can i fix please help😢

[@asure6760]

@@40_VORTEX try to use usb c to hdmi adapter and see if you get video from an external monitor. I don’t think it will prevent you to get screen connection through the adapter.

[@40_VORTEX]

@@asure6760 assume that i got the video then how can i fix vbios

[@asure6760]

@@40_VORTEX just reinstall the vbios you saved before you installed the new one, just write your backup vbios filename instead of other vbios.

[@40_VORTEX]

@@asure6760 why to use usb c to hdmi adapter there is hdmi port in my laptop can i connect through HDMI to HDMI

[@TheRealSolidSnake]

Conclusion part is TRULY relevant. Once I started looking for G16 2024 (god, this OLED!) in my country, while having G15 2021, I decided to check if I can do anything in terms of undervolting and overclocking. I currently have around 34 hours in 3DMark Demo and that's 10 times more than the actual gameplay I had for the past week. But gotta say - all of this tuning is really interesting, however in the end - what for if not for playing?

[@JoshCravesTech]

Haha, for sure!!

[@Exotic-9780]

Awesome informative video, I think this shows that laptops are definitely capable of cooling like 25 watts more than what they are rated as ootb

[@JoshCravesTech]

100%!

[@megamasha]

This is honestly excellent content, and I'm really impressed how active you are in the comments! I'm sat on an ASUS Vivobook Pro 15 M6500XV (7940HS, 4060), and I feel like it's power-limiting itself even though the cooling could handle more, so I thought I'd give this a try. I figure the G14/G16 are a fairly close match in hardware. I've followed the instructions but nvflash refuses to play ball. I get the following (even after I ran --protectoff): WARNING: None of the firmware image compatible PCI Device ID's match the PCI Device ID of the adapter. WARNING: Firmware image PCI Subsystem ID (1043.185D) does not match adapter PCI Subsystem ID (1043.3258). Nothing changed! ERROR: GPU PCI Device ID mismatch And that's it, it refuses to apply the bios. Is it (rightly) protecting me from myself while I'm trying to brick my computer?

[@megamasha]

I assumed it was for my own good and left it alone. After some recent investigation it seems that in the cases where I get unusably low frame rates, it's actually the CPU that's not keeping up rather than the GPU. I think the combined heat dissipation is the real issue here. You can't expect desktop gaming performance, when a typical desktop GPU uses more power (and has more cooling) than the whole laptop computer. It just doesn't make sense (assuming you're not comparing an old desktop with a much newer laptop).

[@ethandonut8257]

the Ghelper app limits the cpu tgp still, so I'll be testing the driver. Apparently if the gpu reached 150-170 the cpu will clock down to 2000-3800 mhz, but I will check if the power limit slider will affect cpu performance. I have a 4090 g16 on the scar 175w vbios

[@-ghost-_-1962]

i have a RTX 3060 mobile and it has 6GB of vram and two empty slots of vram on the motherboard, the question is can i fill those two slots and download a vbios ?

[@adriankoch964]

You mean empty contact pads? Yeah should be possible, but paying for someone to properly microsolder them in will cost way more than it'd be worth it.

[@kaishajacobye]

nice. was able to vbios swap my 4080 g16 to 150w. though im still a little confused on the stock vbios. asus and other vendors are saying it has a max tgp of 115w for the 4080-4090, but reviews (including yours) are sayings its 125w. i saw armoury crate say the max tgp was 115w, and the manual mode gpu slider on armoury crate shows 95w tgp with a dynamic boost of 25w on the stock vbios. whats your case on this? maybe a bios update changed the tgp?

[@BravoNorris]

You have a typo in your save command. It uses 2 hifens.

[@shorps]

is 240 watt adapter even enough for the 175w vbios swap for g16? did you see any battery drain while gaming?, also FINALLY, was waiting for this vid, Awesome guide btw

[@JoshCravesTech]

I didn't personally see battery drain, but I also didn't have it pinned to 175W the whole time while gaming either. I'd say it's worth a shot and then if you notice battery drain then pick up a 280W adapter

[@shorps]

@@JoshCravesTech thank you for the answer, I am gonna get the laptop very soon!! Excited for it

[@dennismayfield2565]

Just stumbled on to this and glad i did. I wanted to try the NVIDIA driver before flashing the VBIOS but I keep getting a message from the installer saying its not compatible. I'm running the latest windows 11 which is supposed to be compatible according to the NVIDIA driver website. Anyone else have this issue?

[@Seanjones1990]

for my i just set ym temp target to 80 and after 10 minutes it settles @ 2460 mhz and it will sit between that and 2600 and never go over 80c

[@JoshCravesTech]

There you go, that's a great method!

[@GAMERUGLYJUJU]

My laptop core clocks always get stuck at 210mhz when flashing a bios

[@johannesdanis2054]

thank you. Flashed my g16 4080 with razer 4080 vbios and surprisingly hdmi port still works at 4k 120hz. But g helper slider still maxed at 105W

[@JoshCravesTech]

@@johannesdanis2054 nice!! Does actual wattage used go higher than that? Sometimes G-Helper might say one thing but what you actually get in games is another after a vbios flash. Good to know the Razer vbios works. Was it on techpowerup? Would love to add it to my folder

[@johannesdanis2054]

@@JoshCravesTech ok. Yeah i got the bios from techpowerup vbios "unverified" section

[@GamerZ4900]

Will it be worth it to buy the Zephyrus G16 4080 silver model ($2900)?? The silver model costs $200 more, but I'm absolutely in love with this colour. Razer 2023 is $3000 with mini Led. And do you know why that G16 silver model costs $200 more compared to the black one? Any specific reason?

[@JoshCravesTech]

Personally yeah I’d probably pay the extra for the silver, it just looks too good. I have no idea why it’s more expensive, it’s ridiculous.

[@OblivionPrime]

sadly i dont think i can do this with my g15 advantage edition its supposed to go to 190w but cant even do that due to gpu throttle XD

[@JoshCravesTech]

Probably not 🤣 also I don’t think this would work with AMD GPU’s regardless

[@OblivionPrime]

@@JoshCravesTech The throttle really ruins my laptop :( forced to use 80% fans speeds and it still throttles (cleaned inside)

[@JoshCravesTech]

@@OblivionPrime could be dried up Liquid Metal. Shouldn’t be throttling like that.

[@aldimusthofa4865]

A question… after lastly i succeded to change my vbios I tried more vbios to search wich of wich is the best for my laptop, but im facing a problem the performance is likely capped, my gpu and cpu moslty dont run at is best especialy my gpu is nowhere at is best while gaming, but it goes to max while benchmarking… ant solution ? Ive tried to revert back to my original vbios but the problem is still there..

[@charlottesherry4997]

I'm wondering where I could find the benchmark site where there is a Time Spy Performance comparison with power scaling between the RTX40 series (as well as the older laptop gpus) . I believe it was also shown in the G14 2023 RTX 4090 laptop review video. Thanks in advance.

[@NeighborhoodWatch2]

This worked perfectly on a 2024 zephyrus g16 4080

[@Heavysjaak]

What is the performance gain? On a GPU heavy game.

[@JingLongTimeLing]

Which vbios did you use?

[@Apav1x]

Hey thanks for the video! Question about the 2024 Zephyrus G16 laptop and the base GPU wattage slider. If you flash your vbios but only have it running at its stock 125W maximum, do the video ports still not work? Do they break from the act of flashing your vbios, or running it at 175W?

[@JoshCravesTech]

Correct, the wattage doesn’t affect the ports. The vbios itself does. Only the left side USB-C display out will work on the G16.

[@Bubbyboyyyy]

Awesome vid i just finished bios swapping my 2024 g16 zephyrus rtx 4090 with the scar though for some reason when i turn the wattage up in ghelper to 150+ theres no difference compared to the 125 stock watt. Hopefully you can make a vid to show how to tune it in ghelper

[@JoshCravesTech]

@@Bubbyboyyyy oh that’s weird! Try 135+20 or try 140+15 instead. Sometimes you have to play around with the base wattage and dynamic boost to get it to play well. May also need to turn the CPU wattage down a bit to allow it the headroom it needs for the GPU to boost fully

[@Sckblyt1652]

Should i re enable svm mode after successful flash?

[@HeightProdigy]

Trying to save a back up and I get as far as -save=backup.rom then I am hit with command format not recognized. Doing this exactly like you are. I have the Asus Zephyrus G16 with 4070 and AMD 9 HX with 32gb ram. Any advice? Wanting to flash to the 140 Watt Asus Vbios you listed under one of your videos not long ago. I'm only able to allocate 85 watts to the GPU plus boost.

[@JoshCravesTech]

@@HeightProdigy I think it’s two hyphens before save, sorry if I only put one, so “-save backup.rom” or “-save=backup.rom” and also make sure you type “nvflash64” if you didn’t rename it to just “nvflash” like I did!

[@Dr.Rad96]

Thank you so much for this video. I downgraded to the magical nvidia driver but is there no other way i can update my driver and yet keep my power limit unlocked? I have a MSI GP66 Leopard Rtx 3080 with 11800h and thanks to you, i flashed the vbios of its 17 inch counterpart and it gave me around 15-20fps increase at the cost of being toasty.

[@Dima-dc5mf]

I'm just trying to do this, and this is the error in the process of flashing : ERROR: Detecting GPU failed. Nvflash CPU side error Code:2Error Message: Falcon In HALT or STOP state, abort uCode command issuing process. UPDATE: With another bios, it is impossible to use Nvidia G-sync, so keep that in mind if you need it.

[@andriikoshman2946]

I have just the same issue, it just does not work (i have M16 2023 with 4080)

[@JoshCravesTech]

Which version of nvflash are you using? You disabled virtualization and core isolation? And did you try Optimus mode instead of Ultimate? Make sure your GPU is not disabled and that it is indeed in Optimus.

[@Dima-dc5mf]

@JoshCravesTech Actually, I'm sorry. Everything works fine. It's just me, that I downloaded older version of nvflash somehow. With the latest version, everything works. Thank you for the video and instructions. Maybe someone will check this message and avoid my mistakes

[@VorteX_SH]

16:08 realised this when I was bummed out at fps counter rather than the actual experience 😂sometimes it's better to just relax and let go

[@Zergbad]

Josh I just installed the magic driver on my GE78HX 13VG 4070 laptop and it did unlock the slider but as another comment mentioned too it caps at 121 at the end of the slider not 140 or beyond. If you were going to do the vbios flash on this exact laptop what vbios would you try please? It's beyond my aptitude at this point I need guidance from here anybody please recommend

[@xpertd2973]

Hey man, if there is a way we can contact that would be great because I'm having trouble. I have a RTX 4070m. It works great I love it but i tried all the VBIOS that works with my MSI Crosshair Laptop with the 140w that the VBIOS promised, and still havent got 140w. Still at the 95-105w range. I've disabled v-sync, used max settings, upscalled the resolution on a 4k monitor or 1440p. It still does not matter. I just need help man and if you could that would be great. And my cooling is very nice. GPU only gets 65c max. I know I might only get a small fps increase but I would like to try. I have optimus luckily so I could freely experiment with these VBIOS's.

[@JoshCravesTech]

@@xpertd2973 have you tried the 528.49 Nvidia driver? Some GPU’s don’t like to hit the full boost amount unless they’re forced to.

[@xpertd2973]

@@JoshCravesTech yeah the magic one right? I tried it and it only gave me the option to 121w. When I can get 140w. Is there another way?

[@JoshCravesTech]

@@xpertd2973 that’s weird. Sliding that power slider all the way to the right in MSI Afterburner should force it to the max. But then again with the voltage limit on the 4060/4070 it makes it hard for those to hit higher than 100-115W even when there’s headroom. I usually tell people not to buy the bigger beefier laptops if they’re just getting a 4060/4070 because of that.

[@GamerZ4900]

My another question, Zephyrus G16 4080 is 115W or 125W?

[@JoshCravesTech]

125W by default. It only accesses the extra 10W if you are in Manual mode with GPU TGP slider maxed out or if you use G-Helper and max that slider out there. The nice thing is you don’t need to be in Manual mode for it to work in G-Helper.

[@tiago_muller]

Hey Josh - amazing content as usual. I have the same laptop, G16 4090, what's your config for the GPU? I'm currently using 145+20 Dynamic Boost and getting 19.272 Timespy score with 84C average temps. I'm pretty satisfied with these result in games, but just wondering if you have any recommendations to improve further, taking performance and temps into consideration. I have a stress test I use in Alan Wake 2 to see how long it can maintain a stable FPS without thermal throttling and this is the sweet spot I found so far. Thanks and congrats on the content again.

[@JoshCravesTech]

That’s a great sweet spot! I think you’ve almost nailed it. You could increase your overclock, and try different values like 150+5, or 135+20, or 160+5. I’m sure you’ve probably tried different combos, but yeah a simple overclock of like +150 core, +150 memory should also help. Maybe also bring CPU wattage down to 15-25W if it’s fighting for power. But yeah I think you’re in a good spot overall!

[@tiago_muller]

@@JoshCravesTech great! Yeah, I have set the overclock to those values from a different video of yours. Thanks for the reply, I'll try those other combinations with less GPU boost and share the results

[@nmsumike]

What did you flash your G16 to?

[@robertkelley9284]

Are you still using the Scar16 Bios for the 2023 4090 G14? Wish I had a way to get to the GPU wattage slider in GHelper for my 2023 G14....

[@JoshCravesTech]

I know, I wish we could copy the slider over! I even tried flashing a 2024 vbios to make it work but no luck. But yes I still run the Scar 16 vbios, but mostly only when I’m heavy into playing demanding single-player games. I’ll occasionally flash back to stock when I’ve been doing lots of multiplayer stuff

[@hotpotato3625]

What the McDonald's have I done. 145 w 20 w boost on g16 4090. Using your supplied strix 18 bios. 19,913 time spy score. HDMI out still works?

[@JoshCravesTech]

Woah, nice! Which vbios did you use?

[@throttletribevn]

My current situation: I reboot my laptop, it got to spinning circle loading, but then black screen. My laptop dont have HDMI port. How can I connect to external monitor now to use the integrated cpu graphics so I can reflash to original vbios?

[@JoshCravesTech]

@@throttletribevn you should have some kind of display output like USB-C or mini DisplayPort. Pretty much every laptop has at least one of those options. Getting a display hooked up should help you troubleshoot!

[@throttletribevn]

@@JoshCravesTechmanaged to get into safe boot and installed the backup driver. All good now. However, I will attempt again. I see on Reddit many saying I should disable the NVidia driver in device manager before doing this???

[@PlayRealm1437]

Hello. So i have the rog strix g16 2023 with rtx 4060 and in Nvidia control panel it says max power is 140w but in games the max I've seen it is about 115 to 120 but most of the time its been 90 and 100w also my thermal r pretty good they don't even reach 75C mostly between 65 and 70C. Is there anyway to increase its power? I just tried older version of nvidia game ready drivers the one you showed us the power level in msi afterburner is now unlocked but doesn't seem to have an effect although im getting better fps than before but still power isn't exceeding 105w mostly between 85 and 97w

[@PlayRealm1437]

Forgot to mention nvidia screen recording and overlay aren't working anymore

[@simonnagy1]

Very interesting video! Congrats! Btw. what kind of mice was that white one on the footage?

[@JoshCravesTech]

Thank you! I think that’s the Razer Orochi V2

[@BitMANcnft]

After I flash the graphics card my pc wont read the graphics card. So, I had to go back to the orginal. Is there any other steps after the rom install?

[@danielcasellas]

Brilliant as always - Mind reminding me, what are the downsides of flashing the 2024 Zephyrus G16 with the SCAR 18s vbios? IIRC some USB stuff didn't work but don't remember what it was :) Thanks!

[@JoshCravesTech]

Yep, the HDMI will be limited to 60Hz/1080p and the right USB-C will not have display out! The left USB-C display out will still work fine though

[@danielcasellas]

@@JoshCravesTech will the left usb c allow for 4k 120hz like the hdmi 2.1 does?

[@JoshCravesTech]

@@danielcasellas Yep!

[@danielp6897]

My backup rom won't work to restore my GPU can anyone help I've tried many roms I have a hp omen 16 intel with rtx 3070

[@alex8642b]

Well, for some reason GPU-Z will cause a SECURE_PCI_CONFIG_SPACE_ACCESS_VIOLATION when attempting to save a backup of the vbios on my 2024 Zephyrus G16 w 4090. Just a heads up. Not sure of a workaround yet.

[@JoshCravesTech]

@@alex8642b did you try making the backup through nvflash instead?

[@alex8642b]

Hadn't been that far into it (haven't opened nvflash). Saved the files for future possibilities. Right now, I just don't see the need for that extra performance at the cost of the hdmi port. Maybe a better vbios will come that doesn't mess up some functionality, or ill run into a game that doesn't quite run well enough, and then I'll give it a go. Thx for letting me know though. Much appreciated. :) @JoshCravesTech

[@adriankoch964]

Did you run GPU-Z as admin?

[@mike109374]

When flashing the 3060vbios it semi works it boots up can’t run games. Gpu is at 310mhz any way to fix this cause I just ended up flashing the original bios back

[@jatinsync3820]

Hey can you please make a dedicated video on g16 4090/4080 optimization Considering On battery video editing And gaming ( less temp good fps performance and minimum fan noise)

[@alexnguyen6093]

has any vbios for the g16 4090 with working dgpu ports been discovered?

[@JoshCravesTech]

Nope not yet that I know of

[@alexnguyen6093]

@@JoshCravesTech yo for the 2024 g16 4090 i found a 175W vbios where both hdmi and the right side usb c port are working it's 263031 on techpowerup (Alienware M18 R1) just got a 20k score on timespy it's working well and i can use all my monitors now :DD EDIT: 267240 works as well and seems to perform slightly better for me

[@gary-ram]

​@@JoshCravesTech I found one that works with display ports on the G16 4090... But the TDP slider doesn't affect the wattage. It just stays at the full 175W unless I underclock the core clock down which then brings down the Wattage draw. The vbios is from an Alienware M18 r2 with4090 2024. Iven been running with all benchmarks and games so far with great success and all display ports all tested well. Would love to get that TDP slider to work properly for Ghelper though I think it won't being a different manufacturer vbios. Thoughts? Thanks. -G

[@El_safa77]

It says exception caught error: board id mismatch??

[@WeeeAffandi]

Slightly irrelevant but can I do undervolt 7940hs while disabling the turbo boost?

[@JoshCravesTech]

Yep! I do that on mine

[@xX_gela_Xx]

hi josh i msi afterburner who yo put power cpu i can find it the parameter cab you help me please ?tanks

[@Eclipse___Playz]

When i disable the virtualization in bios i cant find the core isolation setting although i know i had disabled it when i got my laptop but it shows page not available so is it fine if i skip this core isolation step?

[@JoshCravesTech]

@@Eclipse___Playz yeah should be okay!

[@GamerZ4900]

Do you have any discord channel? If yes, please do give me the link to join. You're a sea of tech knowledge.

[@JoshCravesTech]

That will definitely be something I do as things grow! Really hoping the channel picks up this year. Only 4% of my viewers are actually subscribed and brands aren’t vibing with that, so as of now it hasn’t been very lucrative 🤣🤣🤣

[@zaidalmalhe7854]

I have a question please can I reverting it after that when I want, because I have Msi cyborg 15 4060 45w and I feel it so underwattage so I want to convert it from 45w to 85w if I can, and thanks

[@OOOOOOO-h5k]

You can that's why he created a backup and just the same steps

[@sasuke35589]

Do you try this yet? I’m going to buy new one laptop and looking for cyborg series. I think i will follow this step too but i‘m not sure how far wattage that cyborg can go for along with handling high temperature GPU with only one fan.

[@zaidalmalhe7854]

@@sasuke35589 I recommend you my friend to buy another... Like... Asus f15 4070 i7 12700h it is strong laptop for gaming and engineering... I bought cyborg 15 4060 45w it is so underwattage i don't regart because the god chose to me good... If i where you my friend I will buy asus f15 or asus rog 16 4060 140w i7 13th gen with good cooling system... And advice.... Don't hury to buy ..ask to get more better... Sorry about my english is very bad but you can understand me,😊

[@zaidalmalhe7854]

@@OOOOOOO-h5k how can I do it?

[@juliancaviedes3369]

⁠@@zaidalmalhe7854 did you try it? did you have any performance improvements?

[@OpheliadeRegarder]

does this increase gaming performance? from the benchmarks i have seen a blade with 4080 outperforms the g16 with 4090 i want to decide between g16 (2024) or a blade 16 (2024) for gaming and university but the tgp and lower performance is holding me back from buying the g16

[@JoshCravesTech]

If you look at the Legion Pro 7i 4080 model in my gaming benchmarks, that’s exactly what you’d be looking at with the Blade 16 4080. Sometimes it passes it, sometimes it doesn’t. You sometimes get more performance from the Blade mostly because the CPU. But you get more vram with the 4090 which helps in some situations. I would personally pick the G16 because the difference in performance is negligible and you get to enjoy a much lighter and thinner laptop with more tuning controls, less glare on the display, more than double the battery life, better performance on battery, way better speakers, I mean to me it’s not even close. I would only pick the Blade if you were getting the 4090 Blade and you were only buying it for maximum fps in games and didn’t care about any other laptop aspects.

[@ikene3375]

Thanks for the video, it helped definitely helped my Wattage problem! I just wanna ask if its safe to re-enable virtualizaton after I flashed the Vbios

[@JoshCravesTech]

@@ikene3375 yes, you can!

[@AnimeRecappped]

I was not able to find any vbios for rtx 2050 .pls help

[@Damstructions-funny]

Quick question, judging by the name of the app, isn't this limited to NVIDIA GPU laptops?

[@JoshCravesTech]

Correct, Nvidia only. Sorry for not specifying!

[@GamerZ4900]

Just saw that Razer Blade 16 2023 (4080 Mercury) is on sale for $3k. Is it a better choice than the Zephyrus G16 2024 4080?

[@JoshCravesTech]

I’d still pick the G16 personally. That Blade has a regular IPS panel. I’ll take a little less performance for a much thinner/lighter laptop with more tuning options, oled display, better speakers, similar build quality, and astronomically better battery life

[@GamerZ4900]

Thanks for your suggestion. Well, also saw that the G16 White model costs $200 more than the black one?Is there any specific reason for that?

[@adipurux]

bro i have a alienware m18 r2 rtx 4080. can you tell me which nvidia graphics card version are you using please. my laptop not able to push 175w

[@sluhn3]

I downloaded the nvidia app on my legion 7 and installed their driver in place of the manufacture one. I just recently looked at system info in the control panel and it says max power 140 watts but I when I play a game I only get 80-85 watts. Am I doing something wrong?

[@JoshCravesTech]

@@sluhn3 is it the 2024 model? Because there’s an Nvidia voltage limit that doesn’t allow 4060/4070 laptops to really surpass 100w, especially if the game is CPU intensive

[@sluhn3]

@@JoshCravesTech sadly yes. :( so theres really nothing i can do? nod even modded vbios? ive hacked/modded/jailbroken every device ive ever had so it just feels weird to me when i run into something that could be limited so much and not set free. even the lenovo vantage app has a TGP slider and dynamic boots. I set it to 110w + 25w just like dude in the video and now my wattage is stuck at 50 watts. that the hell? is there really nothing i can do?

[@JoshCravesTech]

@@sluhn3 nah, if you already have a 140W GPU, then there’s nothing you can do to boost it more. Some games like CyberPunk 2077 or Alan Wake, high visual stuff like that might make it hit 115W or so, but that’s about the most you’ll see. 50w seems super low though, so I’d definitely check your thermals just in case it’s bad thermal paste application from the factory!

[@BravoNorris]

So, G16 2024, 4090. Swapped the bios. But my GPU power slider in Ghelper is still at max 105w. What am i doing wrong?

[@JoshCravesTech]

@@BravoNorris what does Nvidia control panel say? 175W? If so, you may need to edit the config file in G-Helper if for some reason it isn’t detecting the change. There’s a tab on the GitHub page for how to do that.

[@BravoNorris]

@@JoshCravesTech i usually check with gpu-z but yes, its 175w enabled. I'm going to search that info on github, thanks buddy!

[@BravoNorris]

@@JoshCravesTech for some reason i can't get it to save settings (it resets when i reopen the software) but i got a different version from the comments on github that allows me to get 140+20w and it works. Thanks pal. Performance is just so much better.

[@gary-ram]

​@@BravoNorriswhat vbios did you use and what did you change to get 140+20? I just got a G16 - 4090 too!

[@downgamersff4317]

Hi brother i am having problem with my rtx 3050 gpu it is not being showed in task manager and i wanted to do roll back to my previous bios but it is saying an error 'detecting gpu failed' plz help me out brother my GPU is not being detected

[@JoshCravesTech]

@@downgamersff4317 install any Nvidia driver and it should detect it

[@downgamersff4317]

I tried installing drivers but whenever I restart my laptop it just shows blank black screen but when I tried booting my laptop in safe mode it works but still gpu not detected plz help me out and I have a tv so I tried connecting my laptop to it but still no display on tv

[@JoshCravesTech]

@ go to Nvidia’s website and download/install the latest drivers

[@alansmods1775]

16:08 Thats when u realise u actually got matured 😂

[@mariuszkrupa7964]

Anyone try to do this in Gigabyte g5 kf 2024 4060 75w?

[@40_VORTEX]

Bro i forgot to disable visualisation and now there is an black screen how can i fix please help😢

[@JoshCravesTech]

Connect to a monitor!

[@40_VORTEX]

@@JoshCravesTech done brother it is solved now btw thx for reply ❤️

[@PeacePassenger]

Hello, i have a 1660ti laptop but my core clock stuck at 300mhz. I tried to unplug the power cord and ta-daa its fixed. So i just thought maybe decreasing the power limit is the solution but afterburner doesnt allow that. What can i do to unlock power limit on afterburner? Also may i use the program you used in this video?

[@PeacePassenger]

Someone said maybe adapter is the problem but no, gpu is taking the wattage it wants, thermal ratios around 70-75 and 80 max on idle. I dont know if i can flash a vbios of 1660ti pc version.

[@user-731unithugeW]

Hi Josh if I vbios the latest Asus g16 4090 model from 125w to last year Asus m16 4090 150w do I need to buy a larger charger?

[@JoshCravesTech]

@@user-731unithugeW you’d have to test it first and see if there’s any battery discharge. You may not have to

[@ssmess874]

I'm trying to refresh my g14 4080 vbios to 150w, So I just wondering will the gpu wattage rise if i don‘’t set nvidia driver back to 528.49?

[@JoshCravesTech]

@@ssmess874 depends on the vbios rom. It varies for all of them. It might try to pin itself to 150w or it might run no different than stock unless you use that driver. I know the 175w Scar vbios will always try to boost as high as possible though. I typically use that one and just use the clock limiter in G-Helper to tame it

[@goldenbly2396]

For me it keep saying error: gpu pci device id mismatch

[@RockyScenes]

Hey Josh, the Omen 14's 4060/4070 generally dont go above 60w but it supposedly can go higher. Any idea how we can raise that to make the performance more in line with other 4060/70 models? Thanks!

[@JoshCravesTech]

@@RockyScenes you could try flashing a higher vbios. Or maybe the extra TGP is locked to a manual mode. Idk if there is a manual mode on the Omen but look for something like “Custom mode” or maybe a max fan toggle if they have that.

[@ernestbangun416]

@@JoshCravesTechi have this laptop with 4060 (max 65w). Any suggestions on which vbios files for the 4060?

[@gonzo28_]

cannot work around error PCI Subsystem ID Match. tried everything

[@JoshCravesTech]

@@gonzo28_ usually a different version of nvflash can get around that. Either an older version or use the modified one from my old vbios video

[@gonzo28_]

@@JoshCravesTech tried it only to get a new error hahah. “No NVIDIA display adapters found”. Any clue about that one? The laptop has an AMD CPU and iGPU… maybe it has to do with that.

[@thatMorality]

Hey Josh! I recently ordered the 2024 G14 before stumbling upon your channel. Been absolutely loving all your content so far! Would you say this is worth doing on the 4070 in my model? I’ve heard some reviewers mentioning that it performs like a 4060 but in another video I remember you mentioning the returns aren’t so substantial at 100W+ anyway.

[@JoshCravesTech]

@@thatMorality correct, the gains from going above 100W on the 4070 are so small that it’s not worth the extra temperature/fan noise to gain just a few more fps. My recommendation is just lower the in-game resolution to 1600p or even 1200p and enjoy the extra free performance without running your temps up and it’ll still look great while doing that.

[@SuiiiGod-m3h]

After flashing many different vbios, my gpu power draw reading was stuck at 752w making my core clock stuck at 210mhz. Reverting to the original vbios fixes it. Any tips to make it work? (3060 laptop)

[@JoshCravesTech]

@@SuiiiGod-m3h 752w? Some of them will give read errors with sensors so it probably wasn’t actually running at that. Check my old vbios video for the 3060! Might work better for you

[@tdallin1750]

so if I wanted to get my 3080ti from 105 to my desired 150 I should watch the old guide?

[@JoshCravesTech]

Yeah, the modified nvflash might work better in your case (my old video). But it doesn't hurt to give the newest nvflash a shot. I just don't have any 30 series laptops to test it on

[@k419]

i did this on my laptop and i wanted to use my backup vbios then when i backed my vbios like normal i get worser fps my cpu temps go from 70 to 80 then goes down again

[@JoshCravesTech]

The original vbios shouldn't do that unless it's now using more wattage for some reason or the driver got bugged. Try using DDU to uninstall and then clean install the latest driver from Nvidia directly

[@k419]

@@JoshCravesTech how i use ddu safe

[@juliancaviedes3369]

⁠ Were you able to solve the problem?

[@k419]

@@juliancaviedes3369 turns out its not the vbios

[@k419]

@@juliancaviedes3369 i used gelid heatphase ultra my cpu temps are better now

[@seannn.0430]

Just got a G14 4060 2024 and trying to flash bios, but can't even find the option to close virtualization in AMD bios, any solution?😂

[@Fearless13468]

Same problem

[@imcomp2819]

did u end up swapping bios? currently trying to swap and seeing if anyone has done it

[@Fearless13468]

@@imcomp2819 I did end up doing it. I was unable to turn off virtualization, but decided to try anyway. It worked just fine for me. My 4060 now registers as 105W instead of 45W. My PSU only supplies 120W and I have started tripping it under super heavy workloads. I am considering looking for a higher wattage universal laptop charger.

[@moizkhan61]

Hi josh , I have a Asus zephyrus g15 (2022) , iam facing problem with Asus optimization. When ever I press any key on my keyboard the microphone gets triggered and I keep seeing pop ups saying microphone on and off . Turning off Asus optimization is disabling other functions of my keyboard like keyboard brightness, aura , fan setting ... Can you please provide me with a solution! ..

[@JoshCravesTech]

Watch my G-Helper video and see if that fixes your problem!

[@moizkhan61]

I did not find solution over there ! Any other suggestion? It's really annoying seeing those popups.. help me with this please.

[@JoshCravesTech]

@@moizkhan61 you should be able to disable all Asus services in G-Helper. Uninstall Armoury Crate using the official tool from Asus. You may also need to turn off Asus Armoury Crate service in the bios:

[@moizkhan61]

@@JoshCravesTech did all the following things , installed g helper , disabled all Asus services . Still facing the same problem 😕

[@JoshCravesTech]

@@moizkhan61 So weird. I'm honestly not sure on that one. Tried a Windows reset?

[@Kfr_ehsan]

Bro do you think you can make a video and see how far you can push both the cpu (overclock) and gpu (vbios swap) of the g16? Im thinking of buying one and doing the same but obviously having some guidance would be great.

[@JoshCravesTech]

I would if I hadn’t returned it already :( it’s an insane laptop though. I had the GPU at an overclock of +250 core and +300 memory before it started to glitch out a bit. That highly depends on the GPU bin though, so it’ll be different for everyone. CPU can be pushed to like 110W+ but when both are loaded up it won’t be nearly as high, like 50W with maybe 150W GPU or so. It takes some trial and error but it’s a very capable device of providing tons of performance in the actual thinnest 16” gaming laptop you can get.

[@Kfr_ehsan]

@@JoshCravesTech Man I really wish you still had it, this concept I have in mind would have made a baller video. What I have in mind for mine is to put it on one of those extreme coolers and feed it two power sources (one through brick and usb c) and then proceed to see the absolute max i can push it to LOL. 😂😂😂 You should 100% do it for another video should you get another laptop like it or something alike. Definitely baller laptop though im getting mine next week.

[@h1ghken]

anyone know software to increase gpu wattage for nvidia laptops besides vbios

[@JoshCravesTech]

Nope, none exist

[@h1ghken]

@@JoshCravesTech if only more power tools worked for Nvidia 😭

[@JoshCravesTech]

@@h1ghken It's sad. Laptop users get screwed :(

[@mohamadalomari1489]

Thanks for your video josh I think somehow I made a mistake or something, I flashed strix 140 wat on my Asus tuf f15 4070 140w.. the screen has gone black even in booting, everything is still working except the screen though, even the keyboard and windows sounds, any suggestions please?

[@hieusac9822]

plug to a monitor

[@Mesteviet]

Have you got any good recommendations for where i could get g16 wattage boost guides for the 2024 g16 4080 version. I only ever see these videos for 4090's

[@JoshCravesTech]

Are you looking for a 4080 vbios? I have one in the link in the description. But yeah the 4080 is almost identical to the 4090, so you can follow this verbatim if you want. There's no extra optimization needed for the 4080 that you can't do on the 4090. Only the 4060/4070 GPUs are different enough to need different settings.

[@edwindeleon]

I'm planing on doing this on my razer blade 14 w/ 3080ti mobile in it. You mentioned that this version of VBIOS only works on 40 series card? Can anyone confirm this? Or can thia also work on the 30 serues cards. You mentioned a mod for the 30 series. Is it difficult to do?

[@JoshCravesTech]

@@edwindeleon it’s worth trying on 30 series. If it doesn’t work, it’ll just say “unable to flash” and give you an error. If that’s the case, watch my old vbios video which has the modified nvflash linked and I give instructions!

[@edwindeleon]

​@@JoshCravesTechSo Ive been scouring TechPowerUp for a 3080ti mobile vbios and they seem to not have any for this graphic card. Would you or anyone on the comment section know a good verified one for the 3080ti mobile. Preferably for the razer 16 inch or 18inch 3080to mobile 140watts-165watts tdp?

[@JoshCravesTech]

@@edwindeleon They're definitely there, it's just techpowerup's search function is hard to use. It's easier to find them through Google or through Reddit.

[@hosseinelhosseinel3445]

Hi Josh, does Asus rog zephyrus g14 2024 models have Touch screen? Am not sure about that...They don't have Touch screen

[@JoshCravesTech]

@@hosseinelhosseinel3445 they do not :(

[@paramecia6839]

Would this be possible for a MSI Katana .I have the 3070 ti 105w version and Asus 140w version performs marginally better.

[@JoshCravesTech]

Yeah! As long as you use another 3070 Ti laptop vbios. I know a lot of people on my older vbios video did this for their MSI Katanas. I think I have links to those 3070 Ti vbios files in that video.

[@devanshanil2468]

ok i have rtx 3060(90w) , 5800h lenovo. i was using vbios 140w for 1 yr then i switched back to stock bios. i want to ask if using the higher wattage will damage my VRMS and gpu memory and core. since my stock memory clock is 6000mhz and flash makes it 7000 and core clock can run upto 1940mhz on stock with overclock( and so i was thinking will higher wattage damage anything i have used it for like 8 9mnths but reverted back later) ALSO i have not disabled virtualization i am on win10 and vbios works for me, core isolation is disabled.

[@JoshCravesTech]

Nice! If you’re not running into problems then it’s fine. The VRMs and all that will throttle if needed.

[@devanshanil2468]

@@JoshCravesTech i try to keep gpu temps below 80 but if i use laptop for like 4 ,5hrs on temps like 82C 83Con gpu will it be fine for regularly using for 4, 5 hrs daily

[@JoshCravesTech]

@@devanshanil2468 yes! I played through most of Cyberpunk with my GPU at 83-85C. So dozens of hours, multiple weeks, no problems. Still runs like new.

[@aMMMMungus]

Can you compare the GPU performance on the 4080 g16 when you give it more power in games like cyberpunk? The 2024 g16 4080 does not perform as good as the alienware x16 r2 so I was wondering if this the wattage could level it out :)

[@JoshCravesTech]

Yes, the 4080 G16 with a 175W vbios would see a nice bump in performance. The X16 R2 runs quite hot but it does push the GPU all the way to 175W. Of course it's also much bigger. Almost looks like an 18" laptop when it's sitting next to the G16. But yeah you can definitely close that gap with a vbios swap.

[@aMMMMungus]

​@@JoshCravesTechHey sorry to bother you again but is there any chance you can show results? I tried looking to see if you compared fps in games in your videos but I can't seem to find it. Thanks again!

[@JoshCravesTech]

@@aMMMMungus the only major test I really did was Time Spy which raised the GPU score from 18,000 to 20,500, so about a 14% increase there. And then Cyberpunk I think it’s RT Ultra went from 60 fps to 67 fps, so about a 12% increase. That’s what you’d be looking at typically, about 10-15% more fps depending on the game. Which aligns almost perfectly with the wattage scaling of these GPU’s, ignoring any gains from higher powered CPU’s.

[@efusionfox]

Bro i have a question. That is my acer predator Helios 16 has a 4060 of 140w but only reaches 98w-102w maximum in almost all the games. Will this vbios trick work on this kind of situation where the gpu is of 140w but stuck at 100watts. Or should i just try the magic Nvidia driver mentioned above.

[@JoshCravesTech]

Try the Nvidia driver first! But yeah a vbios swap might also work because it could change the behavior of how often your GPU boosts.

[@asure6760]

I tried it, it was working but my battery was draining so I stopped using vbios. I tried using a 330 watt charger but it did not help at all, is there any solution for this? (Rog G14 R7940hs-4090)

[@JoshCravesTech]

@@asure6760 the 330W charger should stop any battery discharge from happening so that’s really weird. You can limit your CPU to 15-20W to help lower power consumption. The CPU doesn’t need much wattage to run effectively

[@keithchongyuctss5229]

This might be useful in a few years if I need more performance.

[@warzonedocter3066]

Thanks for the video, it's very helpful. But my question is, if I want to use a power supply with more watts, will it damage the battery? What power source do you recommend? If it damages the battery, what is your solution to solve this problem?

[@JoshCravesTech]

@@warzonedocter3066 nah, the power supply only supplies what the battery can pull no matter the rated output. The 330W from SlimQ or Asus works well

[@highlanderc]

Josh, Is there a bios that has everything working for the g16 2024 4080? thanks

[@JoshCravesTech]

None without at least losing an output or two that I’ve tested. Granted I’ve only tested the new Scar 16 and 18 vbios on it.

[@radvilardian740]

Hi, any chance to have a comparison on linux videos ?

[@Ash36Gaming]

Hey, can we enable virtualisation later? thanks for the awesome video,i also cant find a vbios for 4050 laptop gpu asus. rog strix g16 40506gb g1614ju btw.. THANKS!!

[@JoshCravesTech]

Yep, should work enabling it afterwards! If I find a 4050 one I'll upload!

[@NamTran-xc2ip]

I followed your old g15 guide without disabling virtualization and core isolation. Should I do that additionally?

[@JoshCravesTech]

If it worked already then no need!

[@angeloschaloulis1394]

Hey mate, very good video, thanks for the info. some quetions though: I have an Asus rog strix g16 i9 - 13980hx + rtx 4070m. What would happen if I flash the vbios you flashed and limit my wattage to 140w ? or should I only flash from same GPU models? Thanks man again! Edit: i tried to flash for the scar 4090 but said error GPU PCI Device ID mismatch.. any solution? Edit2: I found a way to flash them with nvflashk but I've tried 13 different rtx 4080-4090 but it doesn't detect anything thankfully the igpu kicks in and I don't have any black screen. Is there any way to by pass this?

[@JoshCravesTech]

@@angeloschaloulis1394 a 4070 cannot go past 140W unfortunately. Mixing a 4080/4090 vbios with a 4070 won’t work :( If you’re stuck on black screens, try clean installing any Nvidia driver

[@angeloschaloulis1394]

@@JoshCravesTech Thanks for the answer man, from what i've heart even If i hit 140W i won't see any fps benefit since the voltage will be the limiting factor for these gpus.

[@JoshCravesTech]

@ 1000% true