100% agree with what you said, private property investment is rather risky and not something you can easily pull out. If want to earn from property, put yourself in a position to go for BTO or EC are the safest
@joshconsultancy3 жыл бұрын
Hi Alex, great to cya here. Nice channel you have too!
@AlexTeo3 жыл бұрын
@@joshconsultancy haha thanks, I am planning how to go debt free by 65 with rental income for me to go spend my retirement life overseas looking at mountains and sea
@SethCrescent Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this comprehensive work. I was just talking to my family on the exact same topic, if I have 1m, I would rather put them all in DBS or REITS. Dividend yield may be lower, but not that much lower, and so much less work and stress. Your video reassure my thinking.
@joshconsultancy Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful! Cya around
@damyeuful3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the insight. You are right, where property can make decent returns, but you have to time it correctly. I have done so and believe it, when a group of 4 of us with decent, reliable incomes and dual incomes even worried that the unit went for months without a tenant and you still have to service the mortgage on an investment property. Even with 4 incomes, it was a worry. Imagine having to fork out upwards of 6k and if one person in the equation loses an income. We must not look at things through rose tinted glasses as agents only want your commission and do not paint the downside and stress you may have.
@joshconsultancy3 жыл бұрын
Hi DG, sure :). Agents naturally have to paint a rosy picture when they are on the selling side.. cya around more ya
@whis54483 жыл бұрын
If put $1 million into SGX, can easily get $5k dividends per month for yield of 6%. No need to do much work too.
@joshconsultancy3 жыл бұрын
Hi whis key, lol. True. But volatile. Property price stable 😉
@eugeneteo96643 жыл бұрын
same sentiment.pay million & you have someone living just above you.its just a box in the sky.sgx better option.
@MsCorydorus3 жыл бұрын
Quick check, the first 3 years of new development, the installment is low as bank only charge amount that is paid for each stage of development. Not sure you considered.
@joshconsultancy3 жыл бұрын
Hi Cory cat, ya I realized the calculations could be further fine tuned. But I think good enough la haha. Thanks for the feedback :)
@greyzonee82423 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the honest sharing. if only we have this kind of information decades ago...it would have helped in better decision-making.
@joshconsultancy3 жыл бұрын
No probs greyzone. Welcome to the channel. Share with a friend :)
@ryankoh26063 жыл бұрын
Thanks Josh. Your video validate my calculations. Good content
@joshconsultancy3 жыл бұрын
Nice Ryan 🤚
@ChrisTang7873 жыл бұрын
I am not sure... I would only brand new property if they have unique attributes like sea views and for staying. For investment I would buy property with high enbloc potential, rent out and wait. The return will be more substantial. Else it will REITs.
@joshconsultancy3 жыл бұрын
Hi Chris, high enbloc potential flats are old and HUGE risk is if enbloc does not materialise. Then stuck with a decaying property
@ChrisTang7873 жыл бұрын
Josh, Hah, there’s where we need to be selective... condo Condition and desirable location key. It easy to buy new launch than finding a gem. If we have lease anxiety then buy FH.
@jocheah40003 жыл бұрын
Great work. The point of entry today is high and return of 2.3pct is too low as compared to the risk. Good old days of early to mid 2000 is gone and those are the days of compounding return of 8pct per year. One has to be a global property investor looking at growth and demographics to attain wealth.
@joshconsultancy3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jo! Global properties are not for the common guy though. But agree with your points
@sundaresank60083 жыл бұрын
Good work as always . An avid follower . Keep up the great work !
@joshconsultancy3 жыл бұрын
Welcome aboard Sundaresan!
@Zenus213 жыл бұрын
Tx for Sharing Josh! Developers are businessman. Being opportunistic if the market condo supply goes down and landbank do not increase prices goes up. If no demand prices goes south. Moving forward our nation is moving towards the “5 Star” location to attract and retain talents , UHNWI for long term vested interest. But there are many segments to this property market. I doubt the tiny mickey mouse units /tiny project plot size will do well.
@joshconsultancy3 жыл бұрын
Hi youtubesponge. Agree. Developers have upping the commissions rather than dropping the price as it’s the easier route
@lynngor82 жыл бұрын
I am one of the developer appointed agents. To date developer has sold 84.4% I own a unit here too. The 2 and 3 bedrooms are selling fast. There are many hidden potential that most buyers cannot see unless you know how to read the masterplan.
@joshconsultancy2 жыл бұрын
Can share further on hidden potential points?
@lynngor82 жыл бұрын
@@joshconsultancy Hahah sure! 😊 But it will take quite a some time, because this is a very good project. My son did this 3 part video series on Avenue South’s other factors. You can check it out here : kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZprFdaWDgdiseqs
@PotatoLC3 жыл бұрын
👍 nice work and thanks for sharing. Just a comment. If it’s renting out, meaning it will be a 2nd property, meaning ABSD. So the returns will be different.
@joshconsultancy3 жыл бұрын
Thanks PLC, ABSD equation will flop. As mentioned in video haha. Usually its decoupled buying 2 private or single buying first
@terenceleong3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comprehensive breakdown Josh! Very helpful! Btw for income tax calculation, I thought the mortgage interest is tax deductible? So it may not add up so much I guess?
@joshconsultancy3 жыл бұрын
Hi Terence, mortgage interest ONLY (disclaimer please check with a qualified tax person). Share with a friend on the topic =)
@daryltan91303 жыл бұрын
thanks for the heavy lifting , appreciate it ! keep doing the good work !
@joshconsultancy3 жыл бұрын
No probs daryl, share with someone too 🤚
@daryltan91303 жыл бұрын
A question do you think the CAGR you stated already includes property taxes?
@joshconsultancy3 жыл бұрын
@@daryltan9130 didnt. Could add in too
@alantan30043 жыл бұрын
I think we must understand that 1 m is our investment money, ideally, the rest is paid by tenants, at the end of the mortgage loan, the property of $2.25 mil is yours. So effectively, it is more than 100% returns if you sell even if the property price never appreciate.
@daryltan91303 жыл бұрын
Assuming 100% returns over the mortgage loan period of 30 years. Will result in a 3.33 y.o.y returns which is pretty low. Am i right?
@joshconsultancy3 жыл бұрын
Hi alan, it may be a misconception. At projected rental, it will be negative cashflow
@PptyS2093 жыл бұрын
But not to forget the buyer stamp duty & extra buyer stamp duty
@alantan30043 жыл бұрын
@@joshconsultancy in that case , have to look for a cheaper property
@Ivan-uo3yv3 жыл бұрын
@@alantan3004 I calculated most new launch rental yields is roughly 3% without even taking in account the maint fee, taxes etc. For a cheaper property you need to get resale which decays if its LH, which kind of bad to exit. If FH then the quantum is higher and back to square 1
@simonlee26133 жыл бұрын
1.3% is still way too optimistic. With market over supply and the government jss ending soon, let's wait for property market to crash. A lot of Singaporeans have the cash and are waiting for firesale to enter. I say let it drop 20% and we can talk.
@joshconsultancy3 жыл бұрын
Hi Simon, the momentum is up now based on data. Crash might need some time. Property cycles move slowly
@daniel988903 жыл бұрын
Renting property for 5k is like a dream for most property owners … but realistically most 3 room condo are averaging 2.5k-3k .. 5k is optimistic, possible for a new property
@joshconsultancy3 жыл бұрын
Hi Daniel, I think this property when built up can reasonably fetch that =P. Its new and location is outside CBD
@eddielim87023 ай бұрын
I do have a million dollar now after exit from my Hdb flat. Your this video suddenly appeared which was what I am thinking what to do with it😂
@joshconsultancy3 ай бұрын
Congrats. Hope the video had good discussion points
@lynngor82 жыл бұрын
I have been in the industry for 15yrs. Pls don’t look at index. Many lost money and I can proof. As an investor and Property Agent myself, I have a 7R framework that i follow.
@peterthermocline3 жыл бұрын
Great video, please explain as a Foreigner, what are reids?
@joshconsultancy3 жыл бұрын
REITS are bought on stock exchanges. Check this playlist Peter kzbin.info/aero/PLE53_SWq6zfL9JtcYdyBzcbJZSamkyl9K
@bill75803 жыл бұрын
never complain Singapore Tax rate. I paid $250K tax from capital gain last year (Canada, bad country to make money). Tax rate is 53% for income amount above $250K. For tax purpose, I like to stay in Singapore. In Singapore, investing in property is still the best option if you have $1 million cash. But timing the market is key, really need to be patient. Unfortunately 98% of people do not have such patience. I am one of the 2%.
@joshconsultancy3 жыл бұрын
Hi zhanyun, interesting to hear you lived in Canada. Vancouver properties were hot some years back 🔥
@bill75803 жыл бұрын
@@joshconsultancy I am in Vancouver. Property always hot here.
@gabriellim22933 жыл бұрын
Josh you should be a property agent instead of a financial planner 🤣
@joshconsultancy3 жыл бұрын
Hi Gabriel, years ago, can be both concurrently le haiz haha
@gabriellim22933 жыл бұрын
@@joshconsultancyThose were the hay days man
@EF-rj5gp3 жыл бұрын
Quite a good and fair video. Well done Josh
@joshconsultancy3 жыл бұрын
Thanks EF =)
@jasonkok9263 жыл бұрын
How about EC ? My brother and his girl friend each one hold one hdb flat. We stay at my brother 4 room flat, his girl friend 3 room flat rent out with 1700 dollar. My brother decided to get married with his gf and buy bto EC around 1million. Both property total up estimated can sell 700k. But in my point of view, is too risky for them to bet all their money to that EC futures selling price as their retirement fund. I am not so clear with EC. Can u please post more info about this asset? Thanks a lot
@joshconsultancy3 жыл бұрын
Hi Jason, ec depends on whether it’s past 10y. If now building up only, they would have to sell their HDB to be eligible
@cryptobuzz16453 жыл бұрын
Stay unmarried
@rheuevr2 жыл бұрын
Do u have video sharing ur 2017 property investment decision?
@joshconsultancy2 жыл бұрын
Hi HH, I saw a enbloc wave back then. Dont have a specific sharing on it but hmm maybe its a good topic for a future episode =)
@fool11242 жыл бұрын
problem is if this is your primary residence, if rented out, where are you going to stay?
@joshconsultancy2 жыл бұрын
think the assumption is $1m spare cash how does this view as an investment property
@DonYang733 жыл бұрын
Haha, yes the formula doesnt work with ABSD. Thats why i cant be bothered with properties as an investment. Horrible yield and poor liquidity. 😄😁
@joshconsultancy3 жыл бұрын
Yes DY absd for new purchase would make it super unfavorable. You’ve existing property investments?
@DonYang733 жыл бұрын
Yes, i have a recently rebuilt, fully paid landed house which i do not consider an investment. I sold my investment property at the peak of the market in 2013 at record price. The Record price held for 7 yrs until 2020. 😄. Meanwhile i invested the proceeds into the financial market and made some more. The primary Property is for the comfort and quality of life for my family and me. I never quite see it as an investment. There is no reason to buy another property as the yields are about half of what i can achieve with other asset classes and instruments. Perhaps when my children grow up, i will help them buy a property if they need. Property is way over-rated, in my opinion, in todays situation. Only the agents get rich, we wont. 😂. It is however a good store of value so i see it as a wealth preserver. I am 10 yrs older than you in case, you are wondering
@joshconsultancy3 жыл бұрын
@@DonYang73 good sharing. What was your career path?
@kendrickleong7073 жыл бұрын
I believe that you have missed out the tax payables for property bought for profit making. There is also a need to consider if you need to pay the additional housing tax when you are holding multiple property. These might add up taking away as much as 25% of the total profits.
@joshconsultancy3 жыл бұрын
Hi kendrick, there are no tax payables for property in SG other than SSD to note when selling
@kendrickleong7073 жыл бұрын
@@joshconsultancy The gains may be taxable if the individual buys and sells property with a profit-seeking motive, or deemed to be trading in properties according to IRAS. The rent gains are also subjected to the property tax as well. I am not sure how does IRAS defined 'profit-seeking motive'. But it was about 20-25% of the gains base on the figure given by IRAS. The above was referring to housing bought for investment instead of for living.
@joshconsultancy3 жыл бұрын
@@kendrickleong707 first time hearing that. Not likely a factor. Any property agents feel free to clarify here too
@fangshenlee22433 жыл бұрын
If the property is freehold, problem because future developers not effort to buy to rebuild the place. If it is 99 years lease, the your money 💸. Both not so good. Don't buy
@joshconsultancy3 жыл бұрын
Hi Shen Lee, Can buy but with understanding cycles and mortgage commitment better
@shhow57673 жыл бұрын
my property agent is suggesting me to give up my soon to TOP BTO and invest in private property with 200k capital gain in 3-5 years time. taking into consideration of my age of 50, which he says i don't have much time to make use with property investment. I think i need more facts and figures to validate now?
@joshconsultancy3 жыл бұрын
TOP is a time you'd hear a lot of suggestions. Youre not alone sh. Think carefully and hopefully my tutorial has points for you to think deeper k =)
@pngchoonbing7283 жыл бұрын
Josh, my experience in property inv bot new dist 3 condo for 1.29M in 2012. TOP 2016. Capital gain is v hard
@joshconsultancy3 жыл бұрын
Hi Choon Bing, 2012 wise ya, that was close to a previous peak
@lohdanwee4743 жыл бұрын
Josh, timing of purchase is the absolute key. 1.3% capital gains is low. With the right purchase price, the relative rentability of the purchased property will be easier. The capital appreciation plus rental income can easily meet 6% per year.
@joshconsultancy3 жыл бұрын
@@lohdanwee474 ya timing has effect to return rate. 1.3% is actual from 2013 onwards
@sharontay78103 жыл бұрын
HI Josh in your previous video, you said try to keep 20k in the CPF OA instead of wapping all from CPF OA. i dont want to borrow from others but can i put back 20k say in June when my cash come in into CPF OA. Please advise and any interest occur.
@joshconsultancy3 жыл бұрын
Hi Sharon, check on the housing refund portion using cash and into CPFOA, mentioned in that video. That may be what youre looking for
@lynnc95313 жыл бұрын
can you do a review of which reits to recommend for investor ? thanks
@joshconsultancy3 жыл бұрын
Hi Lynn, stock tips are not helpful. If unsure of which reit buy a diversified portfolio or checkout my entire reit playlist kzbin.info/aero/PLE53_SWq6zfL9JtcYdyBzcbJZSamkyl9K
@shonenking80283 жыл бұрын
Hey man, if i have the money in the world. Can I actually pay off condo in full cash when buying it? And is there any pros and cons regarding this? Thank you!
@joshconsultancy3 жыл бұрын
Hi SK, depends on how you view wealth building I guess =) . Mortgage is one of the easiest leverage
@chailengngheen24123 жыл бұрын
Hi Josh I have made paper profits of 40% ard 50k from DBS and OCBC shares. Should I cash out and invest into other shares or keep for dividend?
@joshconsultancy3 жыл бұрын
Hi Leng Ngheen, I can't advice buy or sell. Before investing be sure what to look out for. If not perhaps its better to buy diversified and dont look at it
@ocswoodlands3 жыл бұрын
Josh, any plans to do a video on leveraged annuities?
@joshconsultancy3 жыл бұрын
Hi Ocs, sure. Ive seen this request before. Stay tuned =)
@billtay28393 жыл бұрын
where can I find the progressive payment breakdown website?
@joshconsultancy3 жыл бұрын
Hi Bill, putting link here. Cya around. Hope it helps and for anyone who hasnt seen it before too www.99.co/calculators/progressive-payment
@sergiysanin47673 жыл бұрын
And then interest rates normalize to, maybe, 5% (which is still historically low). Then what? Where does your math go then?
@joshconsultancy3 жыл бұрын
Hi sergiy welcome to the channel. If it’s 5% the installment will climb and the roi could turn negative
@daniel988903 жыл бұрын
Very hard for interest rate to ever go up ...3% max
@DonYang733 жыл бұрын
I do have a million dollars unencumbered in cash right now, and i am not bothered with properties.
@joshconsultancy3 жыл бұрын
Nice 🤜🏻
@DonYang733 жыл бұрын
Of course i am a lot more invested in the markets so in no hurry to deploy this remaining $1mil cash. Liquidity is opportunity and i prefer to take the right ones than to simply invest for the sake of investing.
@TheEa853 жыл бұрын
Hi Josh. Sorry but still don’t get why sell at 8 years, why not sell at 3 years right after SSD?
@joshconsultancy3 жыл бұрын
Hi Edwin, possible. It will likely make the equation more unfavorable to the investor. Time is needed to covered stamp duty cost
@ivanp92222 жыл бұрын
For his answer, go to 19:30 :)
@joshconsultancy2 жыл бұрын
haha, the context matters, not just the conclusion =)
@vincentlim11603 жыл бұрын
A lot of info, useful info! 😎 Indeed must have taken a long time to compute and to survey the pricing of developer! Developers may tend to raise the price in following phase but also increase the ‘discount’ and to make it close to earlier phase price 😅 In the end after TOP, if developers fail to clear their units, and remain the initial rate, those who bought can hardly make any profits. I came across some units years after TOP developer still selling at launch rate 😂 I’m not sure if that’s a steal or value trap in that case
@joshconsultancy3 жыл бұрын
Hi Vincent, yes, very time consuming but passion makes it abit easier =). This part - TOP developer still selling at launch rate 😂
@keenkeenli56833 жыл бұрын
If you have zero loan, is it still worth paying 1 million ?
@joshconsultancy3 жыл бұрын
Hi Keen, then the property wouldnt be $2.25m as discussed. But end conclusion is likely similar
@Huatgaobaydinchu3 жыл бұрын
so what happens if market crash big time? potentially stuck for next 15 yrs before can even break even..
@joshconsultancy3 жыл бұрын
Hi JL, it's a possibility although remote. Id think the bigger risk is not able to find tenants for long long periods
@thsim883 жыл бұрын
1 million if buy shares last yr march now maybe already at 2 to 3 fold . dump all n get extra 1 or 2 mill free . then buy property. still keep 1 mill😂😂😂😂
@joshconsultancy3 жыл бұрын
Hi Tai hing, key word is “if” 😂
@thsim883 жыл бұрын
@@joshconsultancy ya if i got 1 mill. but anyway some shares i bought last yr mar is really give me 2 to 4 times return. imagine i really use this 1 mill
@abhishekKumar-mf4fh3 жыл бұрын
U talked about putting 1 million but in ur calculations u showed only putting 20%? A bit confused 🤷♂️, can u clarify
@joshconsultancy3 жыл бұрын
Hi Abhishek, ya if $500k is expanded out in purchase, there is still $400k plus cash. Buffer for mortgage maybe? =) cya around
@abhishekKumar-mf4fh3 жыл бұрын
@@joshconsultancy thanks for ur replay, another question - from ur calculations people who buy with 5% ABSD hardly make anything over long run ?
@joshconsultancy3 жыл бұрын
@@abhishekKumar-mf4fh It makes the equation harder, still exceptiins of course, hope it answers and cya around more ya =)
@DavidArulnathan3 жыл бұрын
just buy BTC.....your investment will be 2M in a year!!
@joshconsultancy3 жыл бұрын
Hi David, suggestions should be considering different risk appetite and ability to manage risk.
@adhiroham3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for not putting the funny face on this video cover shot. I have told myself I will not open videos which have the exaggerated faces.