Joshua Schmidt Reacts to New Horus Archtype

[@calvinbarboza]

I can’t wait to see Runick Horus Adventure Spright.

[@idontknow2257]

Or we see Horus, ishisu, tear

[@sillyYata]

Dont forget Volcanic, they apparently work well

[@fayewinkels6757]

you may be laughing however after testing horus runick i can say that that deck is actually insane you draw up to 10 cards per turn (but 7 cards almost always) your lvl 8 draw punishes your opponent hard for outing fountain hugin is an insane protection for both fountain your monsters and your permanent spell the trap is insane discard fodder for hugin too you got insane recoursion because those lvl 8 just keep resummoning hugin and glory synchro into chaos angel making space in the extra monster zone you always win in time because of coach king and your beatsticks your link game can be wild there are very annoying and good XYZ 8 plays like the new extra deck rip coach king (which lets you draw even more) a monster negate a spell negate basically anything you want your permanent thins all of your hours engine cards into your grave so you keep drawing your runick interruptions and the board is super sticky it does die to well placed handtraps tho

[@masonbaker1677]

Rash for short 😂

[@timdoe8895]

Trash game

[@danturro]

This not really being related to Horus the Black Flame Dragon at all is the cruellest monkey paw

[@Jacktherippa84]

Yes and no. Decks that have to shoehorn in the ancient and the abysmal of yugioh don't tend to be very good...

[@ducky36F]

@@Jacktherippa84 Horus level 8 is only bad because it’s hard to summon though. A very easy problem to fix, although it may be to broken if they did 😂

[@shulker7442]

@@ducky36F it’s just nat beast without the milling, so worse IMO. I don’t think it’d be too broken

[@piecan21]

I was so hyped till I read this comment

[@Honest_Mids_Masher]

@@ducky36F If Horus lvl 8 became easy to summon I don't think that's a good thing ngl.

[@thomassparling4739]

The archetype also happens to be the tri types and a spellcaster for magician souls

[@0c0rena]

this deck just needs more ways to get to sarcophagus and either protect or recur sarcophagus. If you get sarcophagus on field this is as many rank 8's as you could ever want and rank 8's are fantastic

[@chaotixthefox]

If Sarc is removed you get to trigger all the effects, drawing, adding back from grave/banished, etc. You can draw/add back handtraps and be safe from battle unless they nuke your board after. With Protector up getting nuked isn't even the end.

[@TraumaCenter13]

Yeah, I've been messing with this deck and it is fantastic. Rank 8 toolbox is so good along with There Can Be Only One trap card. So far the only deck I lose to so far is Exosisters which shut me down completely.

[@faisfaizal5194]

Loses way too hard if your sarc gets outed before you can put out your monsters

[@aldolibreri791]

I can imagine this being a similar situation to the adventure engine. This is a 7-9 card engine that gets you easy Rank 8’s. You can either get 2 interruptions, or a free draw 3 with this deck. And it’s an engine that has 6 starters. I imagine this will work with any deck that doesn’t want their cards in the hand and likes the graveyard, or has space for what is essentially a free engine. It also gives every deck a free grind game as once it’s set up, each Sarcophagus becomes a Soul Charge.

[@tcoren1]

Yeah. 3 of the first horus, 3 of the sarcophagus, 1 each of the other horuss. Gives you easy rank 8s and grind game. Pretty good brick to payoff ratio and presumably even if you only draw the bricks you can discard them for something

[@thekittenfreakify]

You make it sound like infernity support lmao

[@JJSquirtle]

​@@thekittenfreakifynah it's not infernity support, too many monsters in the engine

[@otterfire4712]

From what the direct Japanese translation for Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV (4/6/8), it's "Horus' Black Flame Dragon". Meaning that the Black Flame Dragon isn't Horus, but his pet which makes sense since he's the Falcon God. Maybe Horus will be a Rank 8 XYZ monster for this small archetype.

[@TengoSuenho]

I want to try a small Horus engine with Zombies. Gives you a way to get Zombies out of the hand and they are generic extenders, both things that Zombies love. They also give you easy access to The Zombie Vampire

[@LiteralApe]

Sure as hell gives em an easier psychic end punisher. Punk horus zombie 🤔🤔🤔

[@Puffzilla777]

Skull Servants, baby!

[@Michael-hs7pr]

Can't help but think of runicks with this. Runicks are great discards bc they replenish themselves, the bricks can be discarded for hugin, hugin protects your sarc and trap, this engine doesn't have a field spell to compete with fountain. I imagine an end board of giantrainer plus chaos angel with fountain sarc and hopefully the trap plus 400 cards in hand. Horus package is 3 searcher, 3 sarc, 1 of each of the others, 1-3 traps, 3 trade in and 3 tcboo.

[@gorgoneuryale8748]

If you are only playing 3 searcher + 1 of each, there is no way you play trade in.

[@Michael-hs7pr]

@@gorgoneuryale8748 you're right actually. In my head I thought you could use it with copies 2&3 of imsety, but imsety is already inherently trade in haha only use maybe if you play lava golem (since no ns) but that's not really worth it.

[@Ragnarok540]

Their synergy with floodgates is off the charts -_-

[@dab1585]

So I feel like there is a way to consistently get into the horus cards as long as your able to make timestar magican a rank for that needs 2 lvl 4 pendulum magican monsters because timestar is a generic dark spellcaster searcher. If your able to setup scales with pendulum call or shs engine and harmonizing magician to special another magician from deck you can make timestar and search for glory of horus. For example say you open skullcrobat joker and shs prodigy, normal joker activate effect add harmonizing, activate prodigy scale benki, synchro a, lvl 8 scale prodigy, pendulum summon harmonizing activate effect summon celesial magican overlay for timestar magican, activate effect and add glory of horus. There is probably a better way to accomplish this but that is what I came up with after 5 minutes.

[@bootkickgaming6724]

Imagine Konami made a Normal summon for this deck who can add P.Sarc upon normal or special and also then double its level!

[@hottsaucekid]

Horus circular

[@reservationatdorsias3215]

Adds for cost

[@IyoMaestro]

@@hottsaucekid The funny thing is that Circulars' effects would be perfect for this deck xD : Horus Circular: Level 8 Light 2000/2000 Cyberse/ Effect This card's name becomes “Pharaonic Sarcophagus“ while on the field. You can send 1 “Horus“ monster, except “Horus Circular“, from your Deck to your GY; Special Summon this card from your hand, also you can only attack with Level/Rank 8 monsters for the rest of the turn. If a “Horus“ monster is Normal or Special Summoned while you control this card (except during the Damage Step): You can add 1 Spell/Trap that mentions “Horus“ in its text from your Deck to your hand. You can only use each effect of “Horus Circular“ once per turn. Then we would only need Horus Mining, Horus Superfactorial, Horus Diameter and Primehorus Laplacian in addition to that.

[@maurizioamoruso142]

So we can use the best normal summon, my father aleister

[@shulker7442]

It seems odd it doesn’t have to do with Horus the bfd as it has 3000 1800 stats like the first monster and is, you know, a Horus monster

[@ZNZbane]

I know it might not be the meta way to play the engine, but Horcust has so many little synergies that it's crazy. -Naturally, knightmare, skeleton, and world wand make perfect discard fodder (harp horror to 3 when ;_;) -No restrictions on the horus monsters, so in addition to free rank 8 plays you get free link materials -Ding is a rank 8, and also protection for sarcophagus -World wand is a level 8, giving you another trade-in target -shitloads of draw power, with trade-in, orcustrated return, and giantrainer I'm still experimenting, but this deck is so much fun

[@thoseguy531]

From what I tested small world is an absolute must in the deck whether you reveal another level 8 or a hand trap you’ll have access to glory of Horus which gets you sarcophagus

[@elionijames598]

Ogdoadics, remember those reptiles? They would combo insane by sending cards to the graveyard, add a couple of chaos monsters...

[@firepuppies4086]

With them both being Egyptian themed... wow that's kinda perfect

[@tobiasfrey2793]

Been testing Runick with it - seems pretty solid. You are likely to draw the sarcophagus/its searcher with the Draw 3 and it can make Chaos Angel super easily after you put the searcher Hugin on the field. Generally, very control-heavy but that's a playstyle I can get behind.

[@thewave-qz9lt]

if you get sarcophagus you just win,if they get rid of it you can just draw 5 cards and add it back from the GY.

[@ycm6152]

a stratos for the sarc is the obvious fix, but i think a field spell that searches it on activation and protects either the sarc or your grave from your opponent would be cool

[@thezestylime0989]

love his reasoning here, "if the archtype gets a circular it will be good"

[@vincam2628]

They’re definitely gonna get a rank 8 that changes effects like the artifact rank 5 to proc their effects

[@manoseigneur2169]

magicians' soul seems good too, 1st lv8 is spellcaster, and 2 continuous to send

[@balelynx1918]

If the deck turns out to be consistent, i think it can be a deck that Tri-Brigade can support. For the Draw 3 with Coach, you can use engines like Mercurier-Albion-Branded Sword for "free" discards + Nerval/Kitt and 3 of the 4 are Tri-Tipe monsters(Beast, Beast-Warrior, winged-Beast). It may be copium, but set a Draw 3+ building GY is pretty good. It depends on how consistent it gets

[@troytheboy1985]

You would need the lv 8s to make a negate cause appo revolt is not gonna save you all the time

[@LabLab3029]

I think the goal of this deck is to force your opponent to clear the sarcophagus and than we go + infinity. The target protection actually make sense if they are trying to force the destruction of sarc.

[@Drowzzzzz]

I think floodgates will have to be the life of the deck in the ocg. It’s something that eventually must be removed from the field to trigger effects while comboing well with the roach to try to dig for sarc to start the engine or even just end the game on the spot. I could also see some deep draw shenanigans with coach king and trade in synergy but we’ll see ig

[@rushabhchheda4422]

I like how the spell is a soul charge for 4 every turn from turn 3 onwards. And you can protect it by bouncing it back to hand using Champion Sargas's effect. Also souls dumps Imsety albeit that probably isn't that useful.

[@Thestar17x]

Its the god Horus

[@chkmte1304]

Dingirsu finna go crazy in the extra deck Edit: I forgot that an opponent's card effect has to send the card to gy but it still sounds pretty good

[@SotoSlasher57]

So we just got Horus himself in the support announced a few days back. Can’t wait to use this deck.

[@epthopper6915]

Could be good with Eldlich, just send a bunch of lich cards and set 3 in end phase, also gives you an omni for the inevitable Evenly Matched

[@brandonlewis3938]

Well. i never knew Sarc was a 4x per turn. That's nuts

[@carpedm9846]

Tri types, so you can use a small package to send kitt with the horus searcher, which is basically full tri-combo. Though you dont really wanna get rid of them from the grave with banishing them off, it can be a good backup plan to have a nervall in grave for emergencies. Also, you always threathen OTK with draglubion. Summon drag, summon numeron dragon, summon another rank8, and attack with 16K.

[@Nicboi123]

I did some minor testing with runicks and its a great control build! It is extremely fun to draw 3-5 cards with duamutef 😂

[@drinkingsoap]

I maybe wrong but this can be good in zombies cause you can natively go in to zombie vampire milling 4.

[@CyDoTooMuch]

no way this becomes a runick deck

[@Badbufon]

sadly, i think it would be the only viable splash for now

[@shulker7442]

Discard 2 runick spells for the sarcophagus’ 2nd effect, activate fountain and 1 more spell, get 2 foolish burial and retain hand card advantage. This is best case scenario but I see why it might be use

[@reservationatdorsias3215]

probably runick Horus Adventure

[@nickschwabenland]

“thats not how math works” part got me dead😹

[@friskydrinklunkybank1108]

Is this possibly a starting trend where konami is steering the game back to being battle centric? I really do wonder

[@frankunodostres473]

so they either need a durendal/abyss actor field spell to force removal OR they are meant to be played alongside floodgates so the opponent has to remove them

[@MizuAstrum91]

Exchange of the Pharaonics, then Normal Summon Qardan. But since Sarc's Third Effect occurs during the Damage Step... How does this deck deal Battle Damage? ... Maybe this deck turbos out the Sky Overlord Heliopolis, then use the XYZ Card that floats Heliopolis into Draglubion to go Numeron Dragon for-Game? Also, WAY TO COACH, GIAN!

[@6andSeven]

You need "Magical Contact Door" to add continuous spell

[@JJSquirtle]

Finally a use for my royal rare Magical Contact Door in 2 years when this comes to md

[@leslieborregard7424]

A Labrynth + Horus build sounds spicy as hell 🔥🔥🔥

[@EltonLeonidas]

My thoughts: This has the potential to OTK with big monsters, and establish a 4horus board. The sarcophagus protection effect is better than you think: they can’t lightning storm/raigeki/dark hole your board because it doesnt target. And mass destruction would be the biggest weakness of the deck. It forces the opponent to target a card and remove it from the field and your monsters would trigger. You can splash ishizu cards, tearlaments, adventurer engine to this deck. But it loses to shifter and other banish effect. Also like in runik, if your opponent remove your spell, your deck is dead. You dont have a built in omni negate, or follow up if your sarcophag is removed. I think this deck is rogue at best, but a really good one and it would see a few tops on t2 events.

[@dorian3848]

The problems of the deck are obviously hand-traps, but I feel like you can easily work around those. Horus Cards plus Trade In give you a shitload of draw power. Since you don't need your normal summon you could even play Aqua Dolphin to snipe Ash. Even better is probably Dragged Down Into The Grave if you can manage to set everything other than the horus cards. That way you can also rip the hand traps. The Ishizu cards let you mill even more and every mill just means extenders. If you want to go full turbo you can even play Into The Void, since you won't have a hand after using Sac four times anyways. Also, normal summon Infernity Necromancer just sounds funny in this deck. I feel like there are just a bunch of tools to abuse this

[@KhristianBolano]

Punk and Runick can draw many cards in their standard gameplay so they can act as an engine

[@Mastericee]

Imma be real the danger dark world build could make this deck crazy somewhat… get enough dangers on field skulldread link then draw the sarcophagus summon a full field of Horus monsters potentially otk time to craft the dangers

[@thanatosxmesiah]

feels like this deck need limitation like eternal soul (destroy your card if the main spell/trap get destroyed) but instead this deck just plus if the sacrophagus is removed. this archtype could easily break meta like crazy with more consistency support as this is only just the first wave

[@donaxygo]

I don't think it's that inconsistent if you can play 2 desires, 3 trade ins and dangers if you want

[@TheNewblade1]

This gives me simorgh or ogdoadic vibes. Seems really good on paper but near misses

[@kennyngo9200]

Search a lvl 8 dark monster from deck that cannot be normal summon? Chaos space?

[@hasanplaster1510]

If they get something that get the spell/trap more consistently they would actually be used competitively Other than that its just runick horus control With a game plan of keeping them for the first turn the on the 2ed you go for coash maybe sargas And if you dont have a good floodgate or good amount of runick monsters in first turn you straight up go for coach

[@MateFold]

The archtype loses hard to Evenly Match since the goal is to put 5 cards on field. It’s true that it provides 2 free XYZ( either for control or for F0). What I like is that they raise the ceiling of rogue strategies like Ra: putting 3 Trade In and potentially 4 fodder tribute with the Egyptian flavor sounds amazing to me

[@tylerschuler6853]

Is there not a single rank 8 omni?

[@Hajutze]

You don't really need to keep them on the field. I feel the way to go is more like you go for Coach, draw 3 (or any other generic rank 8s) and then use the trap to flood them back during the opp's turn.

[@MateFold]

@@tylerschuler6853 why would you use a single Omni negate XYZ when having a monster negate with Galaxy lord AND a Spell negate with Harbinger? To name a few of good XYZ couples

[@chewdoom8415]

@@MateFold They are asking because you said the board loses to evenly matched, implying that there is no way to make a rank 8 that can negate it. The only one is lancelot. You would have to have some good engines or draws in order for the two cards in hand to be worth it, or to have more than that after sending 3 cards from hand, and 4 if you open with pharaonic sarcophagus instead of the searcher

[@chewdoom8415]

@@tylerschuler6853lancelot

[@stars_alight]

Did anyone notice the attributes and types distribution? Great floodgates machines

[@tsukainova1928]

There can only be One 🤝 Rivalry of the Warlords

[@stars_alight]

@@tsukainova1928 gozen and even skill drainnif you play the golden lord 😀

[@tsukainova1928]

@@stars_alight wow... Fun...

[@MateFold]

And the Pharaonic support from Photon Hypernova let’s you search and activate continuous traps from deck on the same turn. Just saying.

[@delta_1632]

Isn't there a spell that summons a lvl monster equal to a lvl of monster you target/tribute on your field? Or am I making that up?

[@xryuran]

It is nice that you will be able to summon the Horus Lvl 8 on turn 3. Dump lvl 6 with spell summon it with trap by baiting something out attack and summon lvl 8 in endphase. Its not an easy effect but the reward of a one sided IO is worth a few hoops

[@mr.wassell7885]

Triple talents tasking could insulate ash blossom

[@Zachpi]

When I first saw these I thought they were awful, but then more I think on it, these seem really usable, maybe not as they're own deck but with a good engine like adventure, I think a midrange rank 8 toolbox style of deck would be very solid.

[@cuttlefish6839]

Support for shaddols different attributes and graveyard effects also a good way to discard cards for those juicy effects. Honestly im sad shaddols dont have a faster way to search their spells/traps or a way to get them from grave without sending a fusion to grave

[@ZNZbane]

The graveyard effects don't work, unfortunately, since sarc sends for cost, and shaddols need to be sent with an effect

[@AlphaSquadZero]

For any deck that has lots of cards they want in the GY, just running 3 imsety and 1 sarcophagus is already good enough.

[@daddyyu-gi-oh4330]

Sounds like they could work in Dark World?

[@omarmahdi2017]

Its great with ogdoadic 👀 u want something to discard ur big lvl 8 snakes with 👀

[@honchob625]

That sarc is one of the nastiest cards ever printed

[@generalistvibe3279]

Brave package and Ringowurm seem like a natural fit for this deck

[@RanDoomPuff]

Playing dangers for more eights and for draw power seems like the best play because these cards want to get into the grave

[@toni98MK]

First card that came to my mind was The Zombie Vampire

[@playmaker6342]

Runick Horus Volcanic Spright deck let's gooo

[@jaredricci9278]

I came back to this video horus centurion been getting 1st place tops in ocg. Would love horus to get more not gonna lie

[@motutaressanressan8902]

The art is really good

[@luminous3558]

So we play Runicks. Baits Ash, baits Ogre, can dig for horus starters, doesnt mind getting discarded. Imsety + Hugin is also a chaos angel with both effects which solves the BP problem. Also Assault synchron is easy baronne lines to protect your sarc from ogre. Overall I think the main boards the deck will make turn 1 will be a rank 8(probably NR38) + Hapy and Duamutef as back up. From then on you will go through a giantrainer every turn as it frees its materials instantly so you can resummon hapy and duamutef to keep on board as removal deterrents. Also obviously just huge kill pressure with all 4 together as duamutef grows to 4800. It would be an absolute shame if the only reason this deck didnt see meta play would be cuz they didnt give them enough consistency pieces.

[@Altiv19]

Hugin is enough to protect sarc, and vanguard can recycle hugin back to extra deck

[@jarvanlightshield9944]

If you put Danger Engine and Small World. Theres no way you cant draw the Sarcophagus or add it consistently unless u very2 unlucky.

[@ZarkionUltimate]

Why do I feel like this is just gonna become a stun deck 😥

[@TraumaCenter13]

Yeah, the Rank 8 XYZ toolbox has plenty of omni-negate monsters you easily bring out.

[@BenediktWernicke]

Ich würde magicians Souls für das Deck vorschlagen. So kannst du den Sucher in den Friedhof bekommen und vlt in was gutes ziehen. Aber das Deck sieht mir eher nach Ner otk Maschine aus. Finde es etwas schade, dass das Deck gegen ein raigeki verliert, aber wir werden ja sehen, wie es wird. 🤷‍♂️

[@andybobandysings]

Centurion Horus is the next deck I'm playing no doubt

[@justinweingartner1860]

Das wird sowas von gebaut, bin schon mit Volcanic Support am basteln

[@halogenzawgi9410]

Just have something to recover sarcophagus and more consistent ways to search it, then this will be OP

[@MattyNaps1997]

Horus Adventure or Horus Runick maybe even do Adventure and Runick???

[@JJSquirtle]

Blue-Eyes Galaxy players eating good tonight

[@prime-vq1td]

Horus eldlich?

[@KixMusaid]

Wait, why doesn’t Josh want to fly?

[@devinbal9041]

They are all water monstrrsso tearlament?

[@obtusem5015]

This is cool and all but why not revisit gravekeepers first?

[@DrunkTigerGrill]

Just make a trap that makes send cards into fuel

[@ICHBinCOOLERalsJeman]

messenger of peace

[@ZachPrime]

Konami raised my hopes for a proper black flame archetype and dashed them with cruel efficiency. 10/10, will cry continuously

[@SuperWarpath]

lol giving me Mummies Alive vibe lol

[@sakulugh]

ohh cool i really like the agypten gods (not sliver etc ;D) so really liked the anubis cards sadly they are no archetyp but maybe the horus cards will be my cards =)

[@sangoblue9508]

maybe horus brigade?

[@stev4v]

Just play Photons with 3 Photon Jumper and 3 Trade they also lv8 so, and Jumper is free also

[@tylerschuler6853]

Jumper is a 4, what spell/trap do you run to add?

[@stev4v]

@@tylerschuler6853 Photon Wyzard and HyperGalaxy. The photon rank 4 searches any lv8 to your hand easy

[@zenbozic6184]

i see, we get new fur hire support potentially

[@aquaenjoyer1612]

tcboo gaming fr

[@brandogg974]

Looks cool with dangers+trade. Just go to town with xyz

[@Walmartin86]

If they add a Field spell it will add one monster and make them indestructible by battle. Calling it now.

[@JJSquirtle]

They already don't lose battles. Third effect of the continuous spell: "At the start of the damage step, if your Horus monster battles an opponent's monster, send The opponent's monster to the gy" worth noting it's a opt tho

[@chewdoom8415]

@@JJSquirtle Then that means only one them does not lose to battle.

[@JJSquirtle]

@@chewdoom8415 well losing to battle is barely relevant between cards like accesscode

[@chewdoom8415]

@@JJSquirtle Yep, but that was not the orginal topic

[@JJSquirtle]

@@chewdoom8415 no I think you missed my point. You only need to win one battle most of tte time

[@johnbriggs2700]

Runicks clearly work the best with this deck, its not even a debate, draw 3 discard runicks add them back. Opponent has to try and break that board with a battle phase only.

[@Funforme-z7c]

Going second could you not just make 97. I mean it doesn’t take your normal so you can do whatever as long as it doesn’t lock you in any way.

[@jumpiestaman100]

Ah, like Exosisters? I certainly hope not, because the reality is you can't force your opponent to do shit, and you end up getting utterly destroyed by them.

[@reactive916]

Horus tear will make tearlaments teir 1

[@ArcJamneel]

watch they release a Horus boss that summons a Horus monster frrom your hand/Deck ignoring Summoning conditions to promote their old man.

[@Mrryn]

This would be sick. But the way they have the archetype set to play out...I think the go-to would be a Rank 8 Xyz retrain of Big Papa Horus, getting more effects turned on based on the number of Horus materials attached to it. Or a main deck Horus Lv8 retrain that respawns itself from the grave, by either having or saccing a certain number of Horus monsters on the field. To fit with the Sarcophagus theme/playstyle, kinda like how Lubellion works with how Bystials summon themselves but doesn't summon itself the same way.

[@yettel8shrjriene922]

so the cards are water, earth, wind then dark? Man they could have made Imsety fire

[@carpedm9846]

Or maybe its hinting that there is a fire and light incoming in the future.

[@ahmadidrees127]

Can we say finaly a good card design because going second means your oppoenet is puniched for removing your cards

[@jackiejack901]

rank 8 otk for sure orochi is such a free discard

[@ivanlovera4567]

The mummy deck is cool 👌