Magic Player Doesn't Understand CLASSIC Yu-Gi-Oh! Cards! ft. @VoxyTwitch

[@milkbottle4u]

Cimo’s gaslighting has become so strong that he gaslighted himself with Jinzo 💀

[@zanpakutoman4225]

Yeah, I was caught off guard with that "Correct!" from him. I was like "What? Jinzo was great at the time, but fair enough to stay around." EDIT: I paused after he said correct and checked the comments. Then I unpaused and he caught himself. lol

[@minifeebas8911]

​@@zanpakutoman4225iirc he did make that mistake in the CGB video that mentioned jinzo

[@blamberton7893]

​@@KeshavKrishnanFinding that frustrating is first world problems to the extreme 😂

[@KeshavKrishnan]

@ I'm not sitting around thinking about it all the time lmao. But yeah pretty much any ygo opinion is first world problems

[@RaineBans]

@@KeshavKrishnan i am devestated and spiritually crushed that they killed my fav gameciel turbo varient by banning OSS. i cry myself to bed alone in my beloved momma's basement

[@johndolan21]

Voxy being soooo quick to correctly evaluate cards and then talk herself out of it just as quickly is the emotional roller coaster I never knew I wanted 😅

[@zigazdovc6175]

It is almost like she is a woman...

[@bobertmario95]

The hype ADHD energy is going all over the place

[@lurrielee2755]

Absolute hypergremlin energy 😭

[@Radenshaal]

​@@lurrielee2755 hypergremlin energy 🤣🤣🤣

[@Begeru]

Tbf some cards she got flat out wrong immediately too

[@WilliamTresch]

One day on a playground somewhere some Timmy was able to change of heart a magician of faith, get back change of heart and use it on Tommy's Dark Magician, tribute both for his Blue Eyes, and then monster reborn Tommy's Dark Magician, and Tommy ran home crying and has continued to cry to this day.

[@kylepinpin3037]

Were you Tommy?

[@WilliamTresch]

​@kylepinpin3037 you're Tommy!!!! 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@matthiashornke9969]

I like to imagine that that was the plan, he change of hearts that face down monster, flips it and ITS A MORPHING JAR!!!! say goodbye to your blue eyes, Monster reborn and that 2nd change of heart!!! screw timmy, tommy for president!!

[@YukiFubuki.]

⁠@@matthiashornke9969you dont have to flip it immediately and youre also privy to private info on your side of the field so you would know immediately once you take control of it so you then just set monster reborn, change of heart and any other useful spell/traps before flipping it

[@WilliamTresch]

@YukiFubuki. NGL, I was going to call him out on that but I haven't played yugioh in about 20 years, and while I think that's what we always did on the playground, I have no idea if that was the official rule. I'm sure there were many times when Timmies and Tommies not knowing the rules did assume they had to take a gamble flipping it without knowing too though.

[@GentleIceZ]

It's only in listening to Voxy so quickly evaluate Ultimate Offering that I realized in MTG this would read as "during your opponent's battle phase all your creatures have Flash and pay 1 life every time you summon with this card."

[@joses1191]

Better than that really, since in yugioh you only get 1 normal summon. So in mtg it would also say you don't pay their mana costs, since it breaks yugioh resource system as well

[@xolotltolox7626]

Well, the more accurate comparison is Fastbond, where you pay 1 life to make an additional landdrop

[@nykthosacolyte]

​@@xolotltolox7626 I'd say more like my beloved Aluren but one sided. With offering you are almost never using it to sacrifice and up to 3 cost is fairly comparable to level 4 monsters.

[@xolotltolox7626]

@@nykthosacolyte more talking about the "paying life to circumvent the thing limited to only once per turn normally"

[@itsfort2098]

It's called Sneak Attack

[@royceblack6752]

"Gimme that dark hole." "You guys f with the graveyard." "I pull my guy out." great quotes brought to you by voxy

[@sammydray5919]

Fantastic start to the year lmao

[@Technizor]

"I show you mine, you show me yours kinda thing?"

[@DemonBlanka]

"I have a limited brain"

[@diamonddudeygo]

"Fuck with the hand"

[@BelphegorXVI]

Ah, time for another episode of "Magic Player misjudges the value of raw card advantage in a Manaless economy"

[@CasualCoreK]

I never understand how Magic players see a 0 mana Wheel of Fortune and go "well that obviously sucks"

[@FabricatedPheonix]

"While cimo shits on their game the whole time"

[@51gunner]

​@@CasualCoreK as a Magic player who follows into these videos from the crossovers with Voxy & Rarran & CGB, here's my assumptions about YGO: - There's basically NO direct card draw because there's no mana cost, so even just a card that said "draw a card" probably isn't legal. - Because there's no card draw, replaying and looping from the graveyard is really good; that's where your card advantage is, so isn't everything a graveyard deck? - they don't have lands, so there shouldn't be the equivalent of a 1 land/6 spell or 6 land/1 spell non-hand to get wheeled into. Getting hit with a Winds of Change in Magic can really really suck because your get forcibly mulliganed and might just draw a nonfunctional hand, but I don't think that can happen in YGO - Aren't most of the effects you could activate on your opponent's turn something you had to set on yours? So your wheeled hand isn't a bunch of instants, they get their turn & probably cast more than you did. You get +5 cards but can't use most of them, right? Holding them is useless if your opponent just wins on their turns. Like, if a player could *choose* to throw the top five cards of their deck into their graveyard at the start of a YGO game, wouldn't most decks say yes to that? Or am I totally misunderstanding the game? IDK, I could have gone either way. I guess with so little draw and everything being manaless, you really are getting a ton of advantage by hand-dumping and then wheeling. So that seems good, but I could have been persuaded that it was really really bad as well.

[@countfizix6415]

Its also essentially the same as all the degenerate wheel effects like ironically enough, Memory Jar, from Urza block that had to be emergency banned for allowing essentially an identical deck in magic to empty jar.

[@AshtonMonitor]

⁠​⁠@@51gunnerokay so, you’re right that raw card draw is really good. We have plenty of “draw one” effects, but they usually come with stipulations or activation requirements. Graveyard is also very good to interact with yes, but while most decks do have SOME interaction with GY, plenty of decks don’t make a reliable use of the graveyard. You’re also right that many players would choose to mill for the chance to draw, since games usually go fast enough that you aren’t at risk of a deck out, and what’s the use of cards that stay in the deck? The deck is one of the least useful locations for a card to be. Also yes, vast majority of instant speed effects have to be set on the field on your own turn first. Hand traps are an exception, which is why they’re such popular cards to the point of being staples. I may be wrong on this point but I believe it’s much harder for a pro player to brick their starting hand since they’ll usually have spells and traps designed to search for playable monsters, but an amateur could still easily brick if they don’t know how to build a deck properly

[@KingOfDarknessAndEvil]

20:48 "AND THAT WEIRD _FUCKING_ *_ROCK_* FUCKED ME UP" This is amazing, we need her on more episodes

[@selectivepontification8766]

I'm sure most modern Yugioh players can relate

[@zeedelahostria]

Honestly, I thought this comment was talking about Nibiru until I got to that point in the vid. 😅

[@JackHugeman]

Nibiru or Block Dragon (Rest In Piss)

[@donaldbagwell7202]

Wow i havent seen a cimooo vid all year

[@kenslycarpel3140]

I see what you did there

[@MikeMozzaro]

Funny; I haven't seen Voxy all year either. What a coincidence~

[@Meeegl]

I haven’t seen my dad all year, and the year before that, and the one before that

[@iowa89357]

Dad, is that you?

[@FR17Z_]

Same bro cant Imagine a year without cimoo

[@ShadeySilver]

@2:14 Damn, I got niche knowledge. There is a similar card to Wall of Illusion in MTG. It's called [[Æther Membrane]]. 1RR, Wall, 0/5, Defender, Reach, "When [this card] blocks a creature, return that creature to its owner's hand at the end of combat." One of the first MTG cards I ever got back in middle school.

[@AliceLoverdrive]

This card sounds like a witch house musician's name, especially with those brackets

[@bad-people6510]

I know these cards exist as someone who never played MTG before or since seventh edition.

[@KM-qr4li]

I was thinking Wall of Tears, the uncommon no one played from 1998, so when she said "there's probably some one-off no one ever heard of and it's from 1999," Voxy kind of nailed that

[@altacc5116]

I like how you assume the scrybot or whatever will pick up the card name.

[@gardian06_85]

@@AliceLoverdrive The brackets especially around the name has to do with websites that have Gatherer (effectively the semi-official rulings, and errata database for MTG) integration. so if you are on say the MTG official forums you would put the cards name in brackets like that, and it would give you a link to the Gatherer page (along with a pop out picture of the card) so you didn't need to constantly be stating the given cards text.

[@obscuritylord]

Fun fact: There IS a magic card like Wall of Illusion. It's Kaijin of the Vanishing Touch. It's an old uncommon that's not very noteworthy though.

[@user-Jas5432]

theres also wall of tears apparently, from stronghold

[@jwnrwd]

Æther Membrane as well

[@FromTheDeck]

But the funny stuff is that you summon WoI into a Blue-Eyes and attack into it, bouncing the two sac monster to the hand 😂😂😂

[@UJ-nt5oo]

its obvious she doesnt know mtg deeply. she is just using it as a funnel for followers on her social medias. she could have just as easily branded herself with another card game.

[@Futuristic271]

Acererak the Archlich is pretty similar and actuallyis run in some commander decks

[@electricspirit3600]

Funny story, back in the day (2010?) there was a mega thread on the Pojo forums that attempted to catalogue every OTK achievable in under 3 cards in the game as both a resource for players and an inspiration for deck building. The OTK list specifically asked players to not include Ultimate Offering because even back then there were too many conceivable OTKs with that card.

[@DarthHao]

Is that where Frog FTK came from?

[@electricspirit3600]

The pojo list was for garbage otks like Ancient Sacred Wyvern stuff. People in OCG figured out frog ftk day 1 (probably i wasn’t around that back then).

[@Shino4243]

I'd kinda love to see Voxy and CGB legitimately work together to try and decide bans just because I think it'd be fun to see them try to talk each other in and out of things. CGB trying to convince Voxy that robbin goblin is the most bannable card of all time. Voxy trying to convince CGB change of heart is totally okay. It'd be the greatest comedic duo of all time. I've seen them COMPETE to guess power levels of cards before, but not actually and truly work together. Will combining their powers be a positive, or will they collectively lose braincells. There's only one way to find out!

[@stuflames4769]

Ooh, yeah, I like that! Instead of competing against each other, work "with" each other. Like, they both get a cumulative score and both get a point for what they get right. And 0 or even a negative point for what they get wrong. It would make each agreement so impassioned. I'm going to steal this and repost it for extra visibility I like it so much.

[@butterspike680]

It could also be turned into a competition, similar to a video Rarran made with Farfa and MBT, he could give them two cards that are a bit similar, and they would have to pick which one was meta relevant, or which one was banned/limited at some point

[@Arcaten69]

There's gonna be a non-zero number of people whose favorite moment of this video is Voxy saying "Hell yeah gimme that Dark Hole."

[@DagarMan0]

cimooooo: "does it say anywhere there won't be?"

[@Theanthill216]

Or the “gimme that right foot” lmao

[@Ogmobot]

2:59 Wall of Tears was indeed 1998, lol

[@Unicron187]

was thinking the same thing, printed in stronghold, not in ice age, but still pretty accurate ^^

[@s.o.l.u.s.e.r]

To be honest wall of tears is more like neo spacia grand mole

[@PROcrastinatingnao]

Holy shit what a hip draw coincidence

[@AEtherPi]

I only knew about Æther Membrane, which I thought was cool enough to name my online handle after

[@LegitHarpyHunter]

​@@AEtherPiMy first thought was Kaijin of the Vanishing Touch. I knew there were others, but I actually used Kaijin in a block tournament.

[@Dwarfcanon]

"Gimmie that dark hole," is an absolutely insane thing for someome to say out of context.

[@benjaminghailane9452]

"Such a nice wipe"

[@LonewolfKhujo]

Came straight to the comments as soon as she said it 😂

[@bdert47]

@@LonewolfKhujoI came straight too but the comments section escaped aim.

[@goddanbriggs]

the speed at which I scrolled for this comment once I heard it.

[@borntodie297]

I expected a reply like this here, i'm happy to not be dissapointed XD

[@grandmaster8316]

Discarding on turn 1 in magic is like a race car driver walking up to another race car driver and stabbing a nail into their tire, and saying "good luck!", in yugioh it's like stealing their wheels.

[@syrelian]

Nah half the time its stealing the wholeass engine, and selling the catalytic converter at the same time

[@NeostormXLMAX]

I mean discard is still super strong in magic, and cards like tripple tactic talents is also a thing

[@emred4653]

"You guys fuck with the graveyard" 😂😂

[@ivanorduz4033]

And Alex happily agrees!!!

[@Dartagnan2717]

We really do.

[@izzyisnormal]

everyone's favorite weasel :3

[@wompastompa3692]

Don't look, janitor from Ned's Declassified School Survival Guide.

[@Trolldamere]

Everyone's favorite Rogue cosplayer :3

[@TheBaldingPied]

My mind completely blanked on ultimate offering like "surely it has a once per turn" and then i never checked

[@profanemagic5671]

READINNNNGGGG

[@thearsalandombgaming]

If you chain cosmic cyclone or negating the effect, your opponent can just go chain link 3 ultimate offering

[@luminica_]

Can't wait for Cimo showing DAD to Voxy, she guessing it was banned and Cimo telling her she is wrong.

[@davidciszewski7497]

That is omega bait.

[@Pistolsatsean]

I really like doing this in chronological order, as it paints the picture of how drastically different early Yugioh is from modern Yugioh

[@theoreticallyinsane5]

Yugioh 2 really is the perfect description for it, CGB nailed that on the head at least.

[@LittlepipMLP]

The great part is when you merge eras of the game and throw your opponent off because they aren't expecting older tactics (or cards) and are defenseless against 'em! Although rare, the anime highlighted this strength of the eternal format; Varis, aka "Revolver" in the VRAINS series, employed several first-year cards to counter his opponents. This was devastating because Link monsters are always in Attack position, which means the likes of Mirror Force wipe the field of those who charge blindly in, and he backed it up with Magic Cylinder too. The man even played Solemn Judgment, so when he said "No.", he meant it! Play the weird, the rogues, the memes! Just be a good sport and don't be a jerk when you do it, and make sure to have some fun!

[@meisterschwert5565]

I mean playing around mirror force is easy (only lost because anime characters are dumb and dont set up negates or pop the backrow), but yeah Judgment is still awesome and so are all the limited DM staples and formerly limited DM staples ​@LittlepipMLP

[@DuskoftheTwilight]

That's what makes series like The History of Yugioh and the Progression Series so fun.

[@YukiFubuki.]

@@LittlepipMLPits alos hilarious how they hyped it up, like he has the perfect counter to link monster and you were left wondering what it was; a skill drain or deck destruction virus equivalent to links, maybe galaxy eyes photon dragon but just against links… no its mirror force

[@daveedwards4681]

Also regarding The Forceful Sentry, at that point in the game you were still allowed to take notes on the opponents hand etc so you didn’t even have to remember what they had.

[@jarco1121]

We need to show her fancing fire ferret (or whirlwind weasle)...for no particular reason😂

[@TheTaintedWisdom]

33:39 - The better explanation is "With negation, you can still activate Traps but their effects won't work and will go to the GY if they're not Continuous. _Preventing _*_activation_* on the other hand means that you can't even flip them up so they're stuck on the field and can't do anything."

[@YukiFubuki.]

its like the difference between being bulletproof and preemptively removing the bullets beforehand

[@wateruga]

You should bring multiple people on at the same time and make them go through these questions in a form of competition

[@jeremiahbell6129]

It's a great idea, just often really hard to implement. This is a 1 hour video, but probably 2+ hours of footage. For streamers, this is a large amount of their work time they're giving up for your work. So usually you both will do a collab for each other's channels. That extends the recording time much longer. Add in a 3rd person, and you could easily be asking all of them to use up a half a work day on recording.

[@sammydray5919]

Reminds me of the Rarran videos where both Cimo and CGB (separately) evaluated Hearthstone cards and ranked them. Was even funnier because this was before Cimo and CGB got acquainted with each other lol

[@necrogon22]

27:04 she just cooked the ENTIRE card game

[@gameipedia]

That sailor moon comment about monster reborn is inspired as hell lmao cant unsee it

[@tyranitararmaldo]

When Voxy gets annoyed, she goes full Rita Repulsa voice and I love it.

[@AshnakAGQ]

She swears like a sailor. It’s funny.

[@pavlenikacevic4976]

Forceful Sentry is 1 for 1 where you get to choose which one card you're taking from your opponent (plus gaining the hand knowledge). I don't see how someone can think it's not busted

[@Yurio9001]

Voxy's ADHD is on full display here and it's so relatable

[@user-Jas5432]

"and this is the worst of the 3" afaik, its the only played one in the unlimited format, so prob best now.

[@TheVictor126]

I think he meant in the old days where you went through your deck so you could draw back the best card semi reliably also tearlaments is the best deck in unlimited, so you really don't want to discard any of those

[@CRuduxypegg]

well back in the day sending their monsters to the graveyard meant you had fodder for turn 1 monster reborn into jinzo or summoned skull (And you get to see if they had a board wipe before doing it). In unlimited it is a bit different since sending cards into the deck is the strongest form of removal vs most competitive decks.

[@FrogPrinceMichael61]

I interpreted that sentence as "the worst of the 3 you can do to your opponent" not that it is the weakest of the 3

[@levitompkins5658]

okay, imagine if you and cgb present voxy a card each turn, him a magic card you a yugioh, one of them is banned one is not, and she has to pick which one is banned of the two of them.

[@rolodwayne5841]

You also forgot to mention that one the main reason exodia was so broken in old yugioh was because of pre errata last will allowing to cycle through monster with sangan and witch

[@jamesaditya5254]

There's too many things to mention, like the sanwitch duo being able to proc their effects when discarded via graceful charity back in the OCG

[@PhantomNull13]

Also, the fewer cards he tells her about, the more cards he can show her in Part 3.

[@DemonBlanka]

Voxy's Limited experience is showing on Change of Heart because the only way you EVER use a treason effect in constructed is if you're gonna get rid of that creature for additional value.

[@jakethewubber8376]

magician of faith was in my very first deck, it was perfomapal and spellcaster chaining, I had essentially infinite amount of magician of faiths and jester clowns, I just kept flipping like he's saying, I book of moon'd flipped, repeat and it made the games stall so amazingly

[@Sinzari]

It's interesting, I think Voxy has the most unusual instincts on what's good and what's not in a card game, like 0 mana board wipe or revive sounds busted in any card game, while going 1 for 1 with a random card (time seal) sounds awful, but because of the nature of these videos wanting to be surprising, she performs the best.

[@davidy22]

Listening to her magic takes makes my brain burn. How long has she played that she's never seen a combo deck use a wheel, what formats has she played that she's never been thoughtseized before?

[@cheeseitup1971]

​@@davidy22 Sounds like she just plays limited on Arena. It's a different world than modern or vintage cube, with different boogeymen

[@ZackSparks]

​@@davidy22she quite literally ONLY plays draft and only just a little while ago started standard with CGB assistance

[@ZackSparks]

A byproduct of only playing draft... like ever, she evaluates card pools on a completely different level than someone in yugioh or a regular MTG player would

[@leadpaintchips9461]

@@cheeseitup1971 Not just Arena from what I know, but she's primarily a limited (and commander) player.

[@cis22]

It's so weird to compare YGO with MTG because of how their resource systems dictate what comes at a premium. YGO only has 1 normal summon per turn. MTG only has 1 land drop per turn. As such Ultimate Offering is comparable to Fastbond. And Gem-Knight Seraphinite is comparable to Exploration. YGO has no mana so its resource system is more about card advantage. As such, hand destruction is comparable to land destruction. Similarly, card draw in YGO is comparable to fast mana in MTG. And the weirdest part is, when I was starting to learn MTG, I asked a friend if there's a card in MTG that makes you win by drawing your deck. He told me, there's Laboratory Maniac. So yeah, as weird as it is, the unstoppable Exodia is comparable to some non-legendary crazed guy from Innistrad.

[@syrelian]

Whats actually closer to Exodia in "game feel" is probably Maze's End, which requires you to gather 10 unique "Gate" Lands(the primary Gates are tapped dual-colors for the Ravnica guilds, but there's also a few others like Baldur's Gate), you have the same "if someone mills my names, FUCK" and the "playing a buncha dogwater cards for this funny wincon", its not as simple and synergetic with a Real Gameplan, unlike Lab Man/Jace/Thassa's Oracle, which can all play a completely normal Blue/Black type game that just has a game ending bomb

[@ICrazySkills]

The weasel is back! Two of my favourite members of the rarren cinematic universe together

[@psi6028]

What are u yapping Rarran is a crybaby

[@MrSyltphademus]

Voxy's Limited brain really hurt her with Morphing Jar. Wheeling is generally pretty good in every constructed format since you're the one who gets to determine when to pull the trigger.

[@ulyssessanchez2328]

27:15 Nothing like a Free Yoink

[@maccaebus]

My theory is they keep Exodia off the ban list not only because of its recognition and history, but also to serve as a sort of warning sign for broken card draw engines or strong search tools. If Exodia starts becoming competitive, you know that Exodia isn't the problem: some card draw engine or search tool is, because if the Exodia deck is competitive then *most* decks are probably doing a bit too well, and as fast as Yu-Gi-Oh is they can't let the game become TOO fast.

[@cjyoung5635]

Exodia has been competitive in very slow stall decks that do a lot like either draw exodia or deck you out so it's not necessarily beneficial to be fast or slow. Like 3 card destructions with 3 upstart goblins then 3 days of peace and then 3 ups business days equals you win easy peezy.

[@maccaebus]

@@cjyoung5635 That's totally fair, but either way an Exodia deck being competitive is probably a sign that something is rotten in the state of the game, and is likely being abused by other decks as well. Be it card draw or stall that's simply too hard to overcome, it's likely not healthy for the game for the pieces that allow Exodia to be competitive to be rampant.

[@cjyoung5635]

@@maccaebus I mean the enablers for exodia are never really rampant in comp but definitely rogue, they're usually in a spot where something else in engine does way better but this fits your general need.

[@NeostormXLMAX]

@@cjyoung5635decks like mysticmine exodia or crooked cook exodia seem good on paper but dont do that well in best of 3

[@DrFunkin]

Voxy starting 2025 off strong with out of context bangers like "Gimme that Dark Hole"

[@omegacyborg]

the Exoida Story: "they didn't win with it" um Jeff Leonard did have a Exodia deck at a Tournament and he did win a few games with his deck recently, sure he didn't win the event but it was still hyped he won a Match with Exodia

[@tyfallon]

Cimo: "You don't fuck with the opponent's hand" *Lovely Labrynth has entered the chat*

[@NeostormXLMAX]

Triple tactics talents should be the reminder

[@firedrake110]

Wait a second, I didn't hear "Life keeps using solemn judgement on my hopes and dreams" in the supporter section, hope they're ok

[@lack_of_reality]

Out of all the non-YuGiOh guests you’ve had, I definitely enjoy the collabs with Voxy the most!

[@andrewpickett722]

Whenever you show Dark Hole, you should show White Hole right after 🤣

[@Timmy_Horsenutz]

I cannot wait for one of these magic tubers to get to pendulum summoning. If Nirvana High Paladin could destroy the climate, it can destroy their brains.

[@jeraldwashingtonjr5641]

Or the pendulum Endymion

[@ManInDanger]

The closest MTG equivalent to Wall of Illusion that I can think of is Aether Membrane. It's a wall and it bounces the enemy creature back to hand after combat.

[@kevinnewey3907]

Their is also Kanin of the vanishing touch from betrayers of kamigawa

[@livedandletdie]

There's Kaijin of Vanishing Touch 0/3 and Wall of Tears 0/4 as well.

[@stinkygoat2686]

@@livedandletdie Except wall of tears bounces itself too but ya

[@Acre00]

The Dark Hole and Monster Reborn bans are interesting because for a number of years they would swap places on the banned/limited lists. Dark Hole would be banned for a bit while Reborn was limited, then a new list would come out and Reborn would be banned for a bit while Dark Hole was limited, then a new list would come out again and they'd trade places again. It was weird, and I don't think it ever happened for any other cards.

[@justshantar5145]

@32:50 I love how she explains s card she feels is relevant to call of the haunted and cimos like 'fuck that magic, this is my video - next yugioh card please'

[@Dr.AbdoFlaha]

I love how Voxy evaluates cards. Great video Cimo.

[@XanafiedcatGaming]

It would be cool if you had Magic Players rate Duel Disks and see if they can guess what they do. Duel Disks certainly gave Yu-Gi-Oh a unique image. Players may not use the real Duel Disks to duel but in the anime they are a pretty cool way to make a card game mobile.

[@dr.mewnetwork6031]

35:02 Cimoo: Jinzo was banned! 35:30 Comment Section: Nani?! Jinzo wasn’t ever banned?!

[@jcbanner5754]

For those curious, Here is the final score Spoilers ahead 8/15

[@jamesaditya5254]

Definitively above average

[@acetraker1988]

first card mtg 1/3 wall, after it takes combat damage, return any creature that dealt combat damage to this card to their owner hand.

[@eldestjester4808]

Voxy should download master duel and take your masochist challenge. I say this as a somone who last played the physical game when Marik starter decks were on the shelf. I took your masochist challenge myself and surprisingly found it to be very educational in relearning the game. Specifically in its design of applying a healthy dose of pressure to find a line to a win condition and build synergy.

[@ovelhadogelo]

"Give me this sh-t! Give me that Dark Hole." -Voxy.

[@SolomonDragon]

The thing with Jinzo is that he hits both categories of effects; Activated and Standing. Activated are as they sound, effects that must be manually activated. Standing effects are activated once and, following the conditions of the card, stay active for a period of time. Ex. The first line catches all activation after Jinzo is summoned, but misses any standing effects that were on the field before hand. The second line catches all traps on the field, but misses activations in the grave or hand. In fact, the only trap that can get past Jinzo is a standing effect in the grave. Which I don’t think we have.

[@sapphiredraggytheflygon8521]

I believe both Breakthrough Skill’s negate from grave and Transaction Rollback’s copy from grave bypass Jinzo, but I’m not sure

[@syrelian]

@@sapphiredraggytheflygon8521 They do, yes, Continuous and Activated effects on the Field are all he blocks, this also means that if you somehow play a Trap into him(eg they summon him in response somehow), then send the card to the GY before the effect resolved(eg Droplet), the effect resolves

[@psymar]

The thing about morphing jar is it usually either gets flipped in your main phase or your opponent's combat phase, which means if both of you draw ridiculous monsters, they can maybe play some in second main but they can't attack until their next turn, then you play your Dark Hole and all the monsters you drew and win.

[@IHaveYourCheese]

I would love to see what people think of Triple Tactics Talent. -Draw two cards(Pot of Greed) -Take control of an enemy monster until the end phase(Change of Heart) -Look at your opponents hand and discard one(The Forceful Sentry) All on one card, but with a once per turn clause and a minor restriction. And I would say its perfectly fine at 3. Its not even in 50% of ranking decks(on MD at the time of posting)

[@matthiashornke9969]

I kinda miss him saying the names "twinklemuncher" and "life keeps using solum judgemend on my hopes and dreams" at the end, its not the same without them!

[@Thoast_]

11:54 at first I thought "I mean, its strong, but like for nowadays yugioh? You mainly special summon so 1 extra normal summon dont exactly matter THAT much" ...Then I noticed the lack of a 'once per turn' clause on it.

[@JumbaJumby]

Tbh even being non opt it could come back nowadays. It falls into the unfortunate combination of requiring your deck to be built around it to get good value out of it, but also being unsearchable and slow. Like if Gimmick Puppet ftk was allowed to be printed into the modern game, Ultimate Offering is little timmy playground level in comparison. If you really wanted to go infinite there are much easier and more consistent ways anyway, like just getting out two Morphtronic Telefons lol.

[@syrelian]

@@JumbaJumby Its searchable Awkwardly, but you can, and there's more and more ways to cheat it into play turn 1 as well, plus its exactly the kind of card that enables burn FTK horseshit from that position, its not unreasonable that it stays banned, I also think it stays banned for reasons similar to why Yata took forever to come off the list, its likely a yardstick of sorts as to what kind of designs are unacceptable to approach

[@catcatcatcatcatcatcatcatcatca]

She is so good at this. Interesting to see someone extremely intuitive just nail the right answers, and then explain their reasoning. It feels like as soon as she knows how the card even works she has a pretty damn accurate intuition of how strong it is. I hope we get to see Voxy again.

[@FaminedNinja]

I need a Rarrin, Voxxy, CGB group episode of this and see the chaos of them talking themselves out of the right answer

[@mikehawk8984]

Absolutely adore Voxy. Super infectious energy, got me giggling into my coffee so early in the morning lol. Hopefully you can get her back. Also I'd be cool to get some of these Magic players together to try and play a game eventually 😂

[@Rikuoftheearth]

"And it's UGLY!?" Had me rolling Voxy 🤣

[@ChaoticMeatballTV]

Had to think about it for a minute but I'm pretty sure Senju of the Thousand Hands eas the first YGO card that added on summon and it was indeed in the first year. Ritual support before it was cool.

[@yorelyoung6407]

56:06 The most top tier gaslighting of all time.

[@Artaimus]

There are two creatures in all of Magic that have the "return a blocked creature" type effect: "Aether Membrane" and "Wall of Tears". The first is from Planar Chaos and the second is all the way back in Stronghold. So it's not surprising that she wouldn't remember them. Hell I thought it would have been a jellyfish that had that but "Gomazoa" does something else.

[@andarerYT]

The problem with time seal is that it's a time waster for judges, because most of the time, players tried to set it, end turn, and activate it before the opponent draws, which is not possible. It was such a nightmare to get tens of judge calls for that and for many years it'd have happened again. Nowadays it's so power crept that even new players wouldn't be trying to use it.

[@OrdemDoGraveto]

I can't remember any card right now, but that Wall of ilusion effect probably exists in some blue creature...

[@noregardzgaming]

The GOAT, this shit is mad funny. HOWEVER.... my boy is mad shiny for no reason bro got a rarity bump lmao

[@JensenHuangTensorEnthusiast]

Aether membrane from Planar chaos in 2007 “Whenever Aether Membrane blocks a creature, return that creature to its owner's hand at end of combat.” I’m sure cards earlier also given how planar chaos was designed.

[@TheDendran]

19:29 SHE SAID THE THING! Edit regarding Exodia: In the WCT 2006 game (7 Trials to Glory), if you beat the main championship, you gain access to another location called the Dark World where all your YGO Antagonists hang out. It has its own market which switches character owner every day (you get to buy their respective deck on their day) once you beat that character once if you managed to beat Rare Hunter, he will be in charge of the stall on tuesdays. His deck costs about 20-30k credits and has all pices of Exodia 3x besides the head (1 copy), 3 Torrentials, 3 Raigekis, 3 BOs, 3 Sangan, 3 Wotbfs, 3 Pots, 3 Charities and a few other things. The deck itself is almost good as it is with only a few minor exchanges to make it absolutely unlosable often winning you on turn 1, netting you the 10x turn1win bonus. Downside is: You can only use it in Dark World (Where all earnings are cranked up MASSIVELY) and the only one capable of defeating you would be Rare Hunter if he goes 1st (if you chose to do the Survival Tournament, enemies are picked at random) _Dark World has no Restricted/Banned lists,_ you can use whatever you want to whatever number (still not more than 3)

[@VCV95]

I had 6 copies of Ultimate Offering when it was legal, for multiple decks. For some reason my buddies did NOT see the value of the card, and basically gave them to me for free. I was beating insane decks with garbage just because I could outvalue the field. When you can summon a double tribite monster on turn one for 1000lp, and pass, you tended to win a LOT of games lmao.

[@SnailGod69]

Cimo needs to show Voxy the clip of him beating MBT using Exodia by playing a single card.

[@CarlosLopez-nr5pj]

Cimo and Voxy bounce off each other really well, so much that they kept talking for a while after the deed was done and it was very enjoyable to listen to. This was a super fun video to watch. Please keep coming back, love the energy she brings to the format!

[@AlinaTaylor-p4g]

Was so happy to see that clip from the tournament.

[@Schied]

My fave from back in the day with Change of Heart was to use it as a pseudo board wipe. Yoink the stronger of my opponent's bigger monsters, run it into their weaker one to remove it, then tribute the stolen monster for a boss of my own. Always felt so good to pull off!

[@DrewIsARealBoy]

Bro got a fresh fade and beard line up for his video with voxy.

[@TaycenTimothy]

I think it happened mid-video on Rarran’s channel lmao

[@sammydray5919]

​@@TaycenTimothyThats was a funny video

[@ericknutson8310]

Kid hiding under the desk running the 39trap and 1 monster deck 33:30😂

[@nahuel5491]

He had to bring "the profesor" one of thesse days. It would be hilarous

[@legeul]

I actualy had no idea that Exodia's head had a typo in it lol.

[@Zetact_]

The Tier 0 Exodia is arguably still the strongest deck ever, because with the pre-errata Witch and Sangan being able to trigger off of ANY way they're sent to the GY, imagine what you could do with modern cards. But obviously once Witch and Sangan and Last Will were all rewritten with their intended effects the deck stopped being tier 0.

[@crowcoregames1785]

old exioda : draws modern exoida: blue dragon summoner loop go brrr

[@divineoblivion1]

I love how Voxy asks what levels are called immediately after reading "Gravity Bind"

[@chimpmasterflex]

I only experience Voxy in these misc. collab videos, and with the prof, but man she has some infectious energy lol. Pretty damn hilarious too.

[@matd2892]

Check our her drafts with Rarran. The "hearthstone player drafts my deck", they are sooooo great to listen to.

[@chimpmasterflex]

@@matd2892 I'll be sure to check it out some time. I really enjoyed when Cimo drafted her deck, so I'm sure it'll be at least as good lol.

[@jimemo7026]

voxy is the only that would see a demon coming out of another demon and say "he's tickling him".

[@ThFdR]

draw 5 cards in one turn and you can look at your enemys hand if you show your own, most banworthy card

[@wildcard_jr7967]

I was really hoping when Time Seal came up that Cimo would slow roll the reveal of it being banned by bringing up how, along with having to have it set for a turn since it’s a trap, you had to basically wait ANOTHER full turn to get use out of it since it can’t be activated before your opponent draws for their first draw phase of the game

[@cameton_youtube]

I actually love the comparison voxy made to land destruction, that's a neat way to think about it

[@khenumine]

Harpy Lady Sisters looking at me and saying: 6:55

[@Dylkill99]

I was dying of laughter when i saw the misspelling of Exodias effect. I even looked at the yugioh wiki and yugipedia to see it too

[@Metallicity]

Voxy's limited-only background really showed on a few of these. "Wheels are awful because your opponents get cards too". "Thoughtseize does nothing when your opponents are out of cards". It sounds like she's never seen a single constructed match of Magic in her entire life.

[@ZeRedSpy]

I mean, limited is almost an entirely different card game than standard. Add in the way limited is pretty much a single set; yeah it would be hard for Voxxy to apply her limited knowledge to MTG standard let alone a game like yugioh with an eternal format.

[@matd2892]

She has 2 recent vids on CGBs channel of her trying standard for her first time. It's a good watch, and they are very entertaining together as well.

[@fernandobanda5734]

You can tell if you've seen her streams testing Constructed

[@51gunner]

I'm right there with Voxy half the time - I love Limited and it skews my evaluations all the time. - Weird enchantment effect that needs specific triggers for value? Absolutely unplayable, never put this in your deck. (It is half an infinite combo that wins the game instantly) - Creature that's mildly above rate and can provide value over several turns? SLAM that shit. (It just gets removed before triggering more than once)

[@Duall8]

Thoughtseize is a good limited card though. Not a bomb, and maybe not better than a premium removal spell, but it's still an efficient 1-for-1 of taking their best card in hand for just 1 mana (like C+/B- level).

[@jayrobitaille2402]

41:29 To clarify: Radom discards= fine, Hand Engineering= restricted/banned

[@TheDupeDavec]

I am extremely hooked on card gamers bringing other card gamers into their games. Please do not stop making these, they are so fun !

[@nickjoseph77]

Monster reborn def looks like the silver moon crystal. How have I never noticed. Lol

[@joeybeta]

57:07 Voxy's escalating expressions here is such a powerful testament to Cimo's delivery of the tokyo dome story

[@megatenshi]

I feel like if Voxy and CGB played a fast format with Gitaxian Probe, they'd understand why a card like Confiscation(or even the handrip traps) is so busted. Perfect knowledge of exactly what interaction the opponent does and doesn't have up coming at no loss of tempo or card advantage just takes a lot out of a game. Thoughtseize was already insanely good, if Thoughtseize cost a Phyrexian black mana instead, it would be turbo mega giga banned lmao

[@L0LDRAGON]

Also Thoughtseize and most other targeted discard in MTG cannot touch lands so you dont usually get completely ruined on t1 seize taking 1 of your 2 lands, where as game without mana system you can always take the absolute best card to ruin whatever opponent was cooking

[@DDDHunter]

not only that, its thoughtseize that doesn't send to the graveyard and shuffles their deck if they tutored at all