Is TBS Fusion better than Rapidfire and does it even matter?

[@MrSteeleFPV]

What did trappy do to you lol. I hope the rf performance gets better cause that’s what I care about. 💯

[@testaccount4191]

Was there not some fallout after he used the RF power detector to call out a tbs VTX?

[@cj691]

Ahahaha XD

[@jeffw8369]

I'm just here to say hi to trappy. I know hes here lurking...

[@changeagent228]

Trappy's hand wringing intensified when you said about the build quality lol.

[@stingersswarm]

That intro though 🤣🤣🤣 I'm dying.

[@TARVAENE]

hi ya stingy 😎

[@Tintin-dm4ym]

Well I have a rapidfire as I’m sure many watching this do, and idk about everyone else but the sigh of relief I felt when I saw rapidfire beat the fusion in rf performance was tangiable, thank the lord I’m safe from another bank account hit! Like if you felt the same haha

[@flo-ridafpv5713]

Ur bank is NOT SAFE, do not look thru dji goggles, I did week later sold hdos n rapidfire lol

[@Mark-pb6nq]

@@flo-ridafpv5713 I'm still waiting to see how that frostbite from fatshark is gonna do. I hope it's gonna be sick, prefer to keep my HDO's.

[@taggerung890]

Wait till the upgrade rf module comes out for the fusion

[@slothandturtle8036]

I feel the same. Will stick to rapidfire for now.

[@RR123]

@@flo-ridafpv5713 Even beyond my problems with the closed nature of that tech, being in a city, I can only hope to fly small 3", so my weight budget won't allow me to consider it... maybe gen2 ! :)

[@tonycake]

FINALLY! a reviewer who points out that RF performance (sensitivity) CANNOT be fixed in firmware :-) Thanks Josh for (as always) a very fair review.

[@anthonyland3639]

My fusion works perfectly and fitted good. Updated well, no issues to report. I did get a clear cover, and painted inside white

[@WrongWayFPV]

I personally love this module so far. I used your link to purchase it. Thank you for all your honesty.

[@BikeGuyFPV]

Features wise, Fusion has it. In terms of RF performance, Rapid Fire has it as clearly shown. Going to stick with my Rapid Fire.

[@daveopie1234]

"Personally, I don't like you as a person." LOL Yet that was an exceptionally fair review. Good job.

[@mikegrimsley9017]

Joshua was "walking on eggshells" the entire video.

[@Chris_Love]

Such unnecessary drama, keep it of the web

[@middleagedbaldguy6774]

@mPky1 Want a list?He makes great products but Karma has a big dose of ass cancer waiting on deck for him.

[@Chris_Love]

@@middleagedbaldguy6774 And you know this because you are Joshuas spokes person? You see nobody but Trappy and Joshua really knows whats this is about and this is just hear saying and spreading rumours and planting ideas in someones head that doesn´t know and making up their mind about it.

[@middleagedbaldguy6774]

@@Chris_Love I've watched the guy bash people's spouses. He makes great products but he isn't someone I would ever interact with. Oh, and btw, piss off fan boy. Nobody asked you.

[@quadsquadfpv2476]

I don’t know what beef you have with Trappy, but I do know that I trust your reviews. You are the man my man! And I never doubt you! That saying I bought the TBS fusion before I saw your review. So far I’m really liking it and the range it gives me. I’m really looking forward to the future integration into other things as well. Thanks for what you do Joshua!👍🏼

[@lipcsey]

_maybe_ worth a note as didn't see it mentioned, is that the fusion was actually made modular. The fusion board and receiver board are detachable, if a more sensitive rx was to come out later you could swap it without dropping the full price again. I heard a 2.4ghz receiver was also in the works that you can swap the 5.8 with and you have a new 'module' there and then. If you're in for longevity that is, it could pay off.

[@JoshuaBardwell]

When those things are available, I'll test them, but I'm not willing to let my review hinge on promised future upgrades. (Okay, I mentioned Crossfire integration, which I feel very confident they will deliver on.)

[@RandomChaos851]

A modular module for a module bay woohoo!

[@kevincanfly]

I got a first run. I got mine before most of the market did. I say this test was very good! Non biased, and totally fair!! I disagree with you about the rf improving, the hardware in it is good. The meshing of the two signals is fully digital in the firmware. Overall I say it may not be better than RF* but it definitely comes close to it... I went from a 5808 to Fusion and that was a noticeable difference!!

[@Politicallyhomeless957]

Why is TBS customer service such a fawking joke? Srsly, “oh, we test every unit before it goes out our shop” “so, even though you got a shat nano rx, we will not replace it and ask you to buy another at only a %40 discount because we’re Uber douche bags here at TBS and have no concept that good customer service translates into success as a company ...... -Real life experience

[@terminsane]

Welcome to ExpressLRS

[@peregrineflow7354]

TBS has an attractive bundle with crossfire that I am considering. The integration features! Thanks for another great review.

[@austinreed1582]

Thank you so much. I was having problems with my VTX so I bought another one and I found your video and help me figure it out.Thx

[@davidhole8229]

Thankyou for the review, and the tip straight off the bat to save us from breaking it!

[@MickeyFKNMouse]

Shouldn't need these biased tips. Tbs has enough clout to bring out quality products without user modification to stop it from breaking.

[@PhatheadWRX]

Once released, the new OSD integration with crsf telemetry so you’ll have a clear OSD (gps home arrow) during full video breakup will be great for longrange.

[@taggerung890]

Yeah i can't wait for that

[@smooth_ops2942]

Do you know of any other features with XFIRE it's going to have?

[@taggerung890]

@@smooth_ops2942 I've heard about the TBS osd, vtx follow, and the ability to know about other vtxs. For example, you arrive at a field, turn on your fusion and it'll change to a open frequency and your vtx will follow that

[@droneartists6137]

now thats a good feature

[@pickeljuice9325]

I know this video is 4 years old josh but im a believer in making things last. I have a LaForge module like that but much older (v1.4) that i broke in the same way, it looks like it uses the same exact screen i replaced mine with. It will be a SSD1306 I2C IIC or similar. Its a really common component in consumer hardware like this available from china.

[@RADERFPV]

I don't own either, but it's easy to see that the RapidFire module blows it out of the water in regards to RF performance, especially at the lower 25mw setting. Not even a comparison IMHO.

[@LoneWolfPrecisionLLC]

Exactly if you want a cheap rx then get the Achilles module

[@daggad02]

I honestly feel sorry for many of the producers of fpv goodies like IRC, FS, TBS etc now that DJI has joined the party. Their googles and HD transmission are just years ahead of this. Analog video has had thousands of micro steps since I started more than 7 years ago. But in all honesty the difference between Rapidfire/Fusion, and the first Fatshark google module years ago is not that very big even today. I hope Fatshark Byte Frost will be a player. But since I got the DJI googles my slowly fading interest in FPV instantly stopped. Finally something NEW and EXITING..we really needed that. My hobby room is full of fixed wings, quads, googles, receivers antennas etc. I do not think I will fly much analog anymore except maybe for my long range planes on 1.3ghz and indoor microquads. This is at least how I see it.

[@scootroter4859]

Yeah, DJI's system is a total game changer! I'm saving my money for it and not spending much on anything new that's analog. I'm waiting for other manufacturers to join in the digital fun and for DJI's 2nd gen system. 😎🤘

[@MacVision3D]

Freestyle and race pilots are not using the dji system ...and thats it its dead

[@scootroter4859]

@@MacVision3D That's not the case. A lot of people have purchased the DJI system... Because it actual kicks ASS!

[@tonycake]

Let me know how your whoops and toothpicks are working with that DJI system... and of course how that superb HDMI feed from the goggles is helping race organizers...

[@daggad02]

@@tonycake As I said in my above post I hope all the best for you guys who developed all the analog stuff. And I could be wrong, I am just a hobbyist. My point is that this DJI system is so much better in the most important feature: immersiveness. We get a huge and sharp picture. Far better than any analog. The DJI system will also develop so the option to feed will come. And then the spectators on the event or tv will see this in HD.. Sure for whoops and micro stuff, analog will be the standard for a while to come. I just don't see how anyone would want to go back to analog after flying HD. It is amazing.

[@jackdaniels7913]

I'll wait for v2 I'm still happy with my laforge set up... I hope there's a implication of a separate module like the laforge so I can keep my goggles balanced and pepperbox on it's own side, I appreciate you keeping it real with the review its grate of you to keep up the higher road and not hold a grudge on a brand over its CEOs or handlers. 🥃cheers🍻

[@Red5FPV]

One point not touched on is that RF performance will get better via a RF board upgrade due to the module being, well, modular. I believe it will be a $10 upgrade and when the upgrade comes out (you will have to physically change the RF board yourself), the newer revision of the Fusion will have a price increase to match. So rev2 will be $130.

[@JoshuaBardwell]

My goal is usually to review the product that we have in hand, not the product that manufacturers promise to make in the future. TBS says the upgraded module will be better. When it is released, I will test it and we'll see how it performs. Until then, making promises of future improvements just feeds the hype machine.

[@Red5FPV]

@@JoshuaBardwell I understand, but it's in the same scope of another feature that is yet unreleased and you had an opinion on that future integration. The module's modularity is as fundamental is the crossfire feature. Just would have be something worth mentioning in the video. 🤷‍♂️

[@JoshuaBardwell]

When GC9N says he's on the verge of adding crossfire integration, that's easy to accept as true. Claims about RF performance are often over-stated and require more evidence.

[@alexandrumusy]

You Did Good Bardwell ! Trappy couldn't be more happy with your obvious effort :)))

[@jesterwaterwizard2917]

Deffo getting fusion connectivity is king .. over the air updates .. way ahead of its time

[@greenfingersfpv9586]

🙂👍 Thankyou for a great video...i upgraded from the 1st Furious so are super happy with my Fusions performance...also I too have cracked the screen on cover install but would not of known that is what's happened if it wasn't for you saying...I did notice something strange but honestly it doesn't bother me that much as the module still does its thing and displays OSD inside goggles and that is most important for me...sent Mike a pm earlier and he said that TBS sell replacements but they will need soldering in

[@RADERFPV]

If you can break it like that, then it's not a finished product. Nice review, but I'll surely be passing on this one. As a freestyle pilot, my $'s going towards the DJI stuff when I can afford it. Looking for new inspiration, and analog anything isn't doing it for me. Thanks for the honest review, Joshua.

[@Pile_of_carbon]

Holy crap the quadfinder is loud! A few of the spots I fly at are the kind where if you crash and don't have a quadfinder, you are not getting the quad back without a brushcutter and nothing planned for the next two days. I like the interface. Looks crisp!

[@Naamis1]

Big fan of Achillez. Been flying it for some Time. No complaints.

[@RCinginSC]

I believe the side by side test was as fair as it gets and I don't recall you saying anything about which one performed better. Left that up to us...of course it was fairly obvious. 🤘😁👍

[@jakeydeefpv]

On firmware .26 which is in beta currently. You can play snake in your goggles Using the toggle on the module

[@bentsound]

Just replaced my Achilles because it was falling apart. I had no idea how much this TBS Fusion could do! What an upgrade!

[@juggalizzle75]

for me pure RF performance is usually subjective and ultimately not the be all end all. again... for me. I have the RapidFire. I bought it to "upgrade" my true-d. The RF performance MAY have been better but to my old eyes there wasn't much difference. Hardly night and day as some claim. End of story is i gave the rapidfire to my son and kept the true-d as i perfer its menu and features. The fusion after implementing the crsf functionality will be my next purchase for that fuctionality alone. plus it has a lot of the same features

[@BigAlFPV17]

You do great & honest reviews of the products you review. Keep it up Joshua!!

[@fpvkings8102]

Great video man. Humorous and fair. You my man are the kid out of the other group I'd invite to sit and eat at the our lunch table.

[@fpvwing]

so many features of Achillez - we've had for a year or more, on budget :) . another great review fpv anchorman

[@JoshuaBardwell]

The developer of Achilles was hired by TBS to help develop the Fusion module. So the similarities are not a coincidence.

[@Mark-Dibble]

Matrix mode sounds a lot cooler than it actually is.

[@FastSloW-qt8xf]

I use a wildfire. I don't fly analog much but when I do it suits my needs very well

[@humbertomontalban3932]

I just got the tbs fusion, and printed the faceplate for my dji fpv googles, after I did finish the module and the cover fit super perfect and did the external mod, so far so good, chossed tbs because Trappi was very nice in the pass with my issues with tbs crossfire and today all my fleet and expensive aircraft are running cxsfire,.. Need to test this module for long range, will see how perform, my laforge is strong so let see how tbs does.

[@shannonsmith4986]

Thanks for a great review. I have the Rapid Fire and I absolutely love it. But, If something better comes out I'll be thrilled! When the HD low latency module with matching camera and transmitter comes out, I'll be in line waiting for it. Until then, Rapid Fire is the best I've tried.

[@LenfredDueck]

As True-D V2 and Crossfire user I think this will be my next reciever upgrade for sure

[@SeeFPv-qm6ie]

i have both module's and i think that rapid is better but we have to wait to see what tbs doe's in the future?

[@FGRFPV]

I've heard this module delivers a sharper image? I recently found out that my rapidfire image is waaay unsharper than a TrueD, on the same googles with the same copter...

[@gkeaton9755]

Greets! Let me preface everything by letting all know that I am returning to the hobby after several years away. PWm was just coming out with the last quad I built. So TBS crossfire is the control trans and receiver, and rapidfire and fusion are the video trans and receivers?, both known for rather good range? The tbs fusion integrates to the crossfire? I am contemplating a cruiser.... based off of the robocat 270 (I think its a super cool design) 3 or 4s, no gopro, just me and whatever the dvr catches. Build tips are appreciated!

[@rholt2]

not for nothin' but at the end of that flight when it crashed, it would have been a good time to try out the Fusion's "find my quad" feature. but thanks for the very good review. Russ from Ocala, Florida, USA

[@kevinjulievan]

Great review ! That lap timer and future crossfire integration are cool features for sure .

[@MindRiderFPV]

I think my RF is the first and last analog receiver I will ever need :-) but still I learned something today.

[@KC-su9nb]

If you get any blow back from this it's BS. You gave a fair and even test of both. Excellent video.

[@taggerung890]

There's been several videos showing that rf still beats fusion in raw RF performance. So I hope JB doesn't get blasted for this. Also I'm waiting on the upgrade rf module for the fusion to see what the performance will be like

[@dkieng]

Thanks for the video and as I review the side by side comparison I see the RapidFire is a much better FPV RX module at this point. The Rapidfire is my daily driver so I'm so happy to see it performs very well in this test.

[@JonFloFPV]

I purchased a TBS Fusion recently and despite it being “compatible with my Dom V2’s” with a power mod, it actually left a plastic burning smell in Fusion mode and also had terrible screen tear issues with most of my quads.

[@airflowfpv7791]

Did you do the power step up mod to your Dominator v2s? The Fusion requires more power than available at the module bay on Dom v2s and 3s..

[@JonFloFPV]

@@airflowfpv7791 do you mean pulling the white ribbon through the goggles and attaching it to the port on the other side of the goggles to get extra power.É ... yup, did that. Was going to try direct power to the module instead but... just gave up on it. Pretty happy actually with the Skyzone Cobra X built in analog module now. Mix 1 mode for me = no screen tearing.

[@licensetodrive9930]

My philosophy when upgrading equipment like my VRX module & radio gear is to go for the best (money allowing), because going up a notch or two will give you a better experience, sure, but you'll still be looking at the top products, which is why I recently bought a RapidFire, Crossfire & T16. RapidFire = great, Crossfire = supposedly great (I had a failsafe at less than 40 meters), T16 = still getting used to its bulkiness.

[@JoshuaBardwell]

If you are getting crossfire failsafe at 40 meters something is wrong with your setup. Check antennas. Also make sure dynamic power is turned off.

[@licensetodrive9930]

Thank you for taking the time to reply, TX antenna secure & not moving, UFL connector on nano RX held in place with heatshrink, Immortal T antenna mounted to back arm of quad at right angle to arm. The output power set to 250mW but dynamic power is on, I was told that doesn't matter? The 14 second flight kzbin.info/www/bejne/jom9fKifl7CIl5I - yes the RSSI is all over the place because I had it set to RSSI as that's all I've ever heard people say "99% RSSI all the time!", nobody told me until after the failsafe I should've had the receiver output LQ instead.

[@IanBeaty]

@@JoshuaBardwell Is it bad to have dynamic power on? I have been using it that way for a year with some long range flights, and have never had a problem. What are the problems?

[@heartofamericafpv5584]

intro.... I'M DYING!

[@mooosestang]

Nailed that intro!

[@gregdeon705]

Ta for an honest opinion Joshua . And I wonder with the advent of DJI and their Digital system , you don't need a crystal ball too see a tech race will ensue to improve performance , range , channel interference and availability and micro size these systems to fit the more mainstream frames , micro frames and other uses . Will this eventually seal the fate of the analog TX/RX ?

[@ptcustom81]

I'm very happy I went with the rapid fire. I fly in multi path environments all the time.

[@rebelquadronfpv1065]

Omg they sent a wonky cover plate to JB. Perhaps it was deliberate to troll him? ;)

[@JoshuaBardwell]

I ordered mine at retail the same as anybody else. And others have pointed out the issue so it's not just me.

[@DukeHyperFPV]

Love my fusion from the frist day. Sure, have some hardware problems but still great video and nothing I cannot fix by myself. Update 0.26 is online btw!

[@MachineManGabb]

What about the foxeer wildfire? Im poor as shit and just want something better than my realacc reciever🤣❤️

[@JoshuaBardwell]

Once I have one, I will test it :-)

[@mikeoleksa]

Ditto what Slo-Mo FPV said. The Pro58 w/Achilles checks the box of being better than the Realacc.

[@MachineManGabb]

@@mikeoleksa alrighty, I'll try it however the wildfire is 30 dollars cheaper than the fusion again, so i will be waiting for the tests to be released, if it's bad ill do what you said

[@prrcpor]

I have a realacc Achilles pro plus. It works great. It really does

[@aldenhauser9555]

Slo-Mo FPV Achilles is where it’s at

[@Irigoyen4]

Umm, any mechanical engineer will tell you that sloppy tolerances are unacceptable, even in a first generation product. Where is the testing and evaluation before it is sold on the market? Basic tolerances are the backbone of any engineered product, be it power related or basic layout and containment of the product. Questionable quality control, questionable design tolerances on the most basic of features. Honestly, it does make the consumer question long term reliability. Just my opinion of course. Thanks for the info and your hard work!

[@jeffrofpv2068]

thanks for an honest review, its obvious the Fusion was release way too early, and customers have been suffering with many little stupid rookie quality issues. I feel sorry for the customers who couldn't wait until all the issues were worked out. Hopefully TBS will learn from this fiasco and improve the future products with more field testing with real FPV pilots. It has some potential to be a killer unit too bad the hype was over exaggerated.

[@godsun358]

Another informative video man you don't stop

[@ipsofatso]

i ordered my rapidfires the day before the TBS module was released, and was kind of kicking myself, but after seeing the head-to-head footage, i'm 100% fine with the rapidfires.

[@KATchUL8rFPV]

Thank you for this. It was a fair and accurate test. It helped me decided for sure.

[@martinluessi5785]

Nice video :). @Joshua Bardwell it would have been nice to mention that Fusion is modular, i.e, the 5.8GHz receiver boards are on the back PCB and can be upgraded / changed in the future :) by the user. I don't think there is another goggle module on the market that has this feature

[@chrisconner8629]

Would you care to elaborate on that? I'd love to know how to do this

[@middleagedbaldguy6774]

Glad TBS came out with it. I picked up a very gently used rapid fire for pennies on the dollar.

[@MCsCreations]

Awesome testing and comparison, Joshua! 😊 You know... I've been thinking and I may even go for Crossfire (in case I really couldn't find any R9 receiver to buy that is compatible with my module)... But between those two I would go to the RapidFire. No doubt about it. 😊

[@rickster-fpv1818]

From what I've seen, The fusion is on par with the TrueD-X, but with out the horizontal jitter, I should have my Rapid fire in a couple days.

[@adamlovell23]

So the comment about the firmware not making the RF performance may be plausible, but TBS has stated that their will be an actual hardware upgrade in the near future that will be able to be installed by the user. I feel like this definitely could increase the RF performance by installing the new board that is supposedly going to cost about $10 to people who have already bought thier module.

[@JoshuaBardwell]

When that board is released, I will test it. It's very common for manufacturers to promise that a future product will address deficiencies in the current product but we should remain skeptical until they deliver.

[@iballiano]

Only words are... Thanks Josh! 😉

[@jgpg420]

You forgot to mention that the TBS TRIUMPH STUBBY ANTENNA cant even screw down all the way on the module because the hole in the case isn't wide enough. I am guessing no stubby antenna does. I think if you tightened it down too hard it could cause damage or the other side to lift up a little?

[@JT-jy2sy]

Needs another retest after new fw and hw release.

[@VinoUdaBestOne]

I agree 1000%.... As I am about to order the goggles and the faceplate he recommended plus whatever setup works best. The TBS is what I really am considering but if its not better ill just go with the rapidfire.

[@filiped7298]

So TBS makes a claim of “best in the world” and then they fail to even match the top receiver in the market where it matters most: RF performance. 😕 Anyway, let’s look at the bright side of this - competition is always good for us customers and its nice to have a company like TBS to keep ImmersionRC on their toes.

[@sunsetpark_fpv]

I know that this video is about 9 months or so old but in reference to the screen cracking at the beginning, at 2:42 look to the bottom right of the unit where the little input device protrudes through the hole. The plastic around it looks awful, like it was cut out with a dull exacto knife in some guys basement.

[@JoshuaBardwell]

That's because it was pressing against the joystick so the joystick wouldn't move, so I cut out the plastic with an exacto knife in my basement.

[@sunsetpark_fpv]

@@JoshuaBardwell LOL yes, you also said you filed it. My point was that issue coupled with the cracking of the screen makes me question the quality control of the product. These issues should have been sorted out before you received it. Peace and love JB.

[@JoshuaBardwell]

I agree :-)

[@jetjitters6474]

I think I'll also keep my Rapidfire until Trappy makes one that can see thru concrete walls.

[@stuffifindinteresting2115]

I thought your review was great. Tbs has the potential to make there product to die for. I love the quad finder audio but the rapid fire out performed. Im a fan of your 25mw testing to show rf performance. Keep up the great work. Also can you design a 6x5x2 prop? Maybe purple and gold???

[@olevolbracht9107]

I think it could win the comparison if they update the firmware. The general reception actually seems to be better with the Fusion, while the Rapidfires Firmware is clearly doing its job better. Does that make sense?

[@MaxBeamer]

Question... are we basically at the limits of this tech and just going in circles? ie if the Army or someone dropped $10mil to R&D the best possible analog module for our power limits would it be significantly better than what we have now Or is it time to just change the fundamentals to go forward

[@JoshuaBardwell]

It's certainly possible that you could a few more dB of sensitivity with big injections of cash. The challenge is being able to mass-produce high quality hardware at a price that our market will bear. Realistically though, I think the future is digital and the question is just how far off that horizon is.

[@gtadude24245]

I like the Tbs functions especially the channel scanning that’s gonna be really useful for spectators at a race but the rapidfire still Slaps

[@modocfpv6305]

Having had the dji experience. I really like the VTX following the VRX function. Does any other module have that? Only the Fusion and DJI FPV?

[@KimboFPV]

Helpful! Fair! I'm thinking early 2020 I'll upgrade my HD3/LaForgeV4 to something better. RapidFire is solid choice, Fusion might be interesting if this "CrossfireCloud-ecosystem" stuff works well, easy, useful, etc .....The elephant in the room DJI - most likely this is where I'll end up... Thx JB

[@charlessmith281]

During your second test I noticed that your osd that shows the amount of mah you used and the current amp draw wasn't working I'm currently having the same problem and need help

[@dirtfpv]

LOL, using vhb tape was also their solution for the Syk Kable switch issues!

[@truefpvblood158]

Fair as always....thanks jb...you rock!

[@SHess65]

Very good fair and honest review.

[@jamestaylor7045]

"ya i got double sided tape why"..........DEDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

[@hateeternalmaver]

Oh man, glad they didn't ask him for like gaffer-tape... ;D

[@ivandovgonyk3474]

Can you please explain the joke to me? It has to be something that only Amuricans understand 😅

[@jamestaylor7045]

Ivan Dovgonyk no it was just more of an initial growing pain the module had and sort of a meme with how bardwell put it

[@ivandovgonyk3474]

@@jamestaylor7045 ou XD

[@ivandovgonyk3474]

@@jamestaylor7045 thanks tho

[@daryljohnlam9982]

in the latest firmware of the fusion, go to bandscan and hold left you will go into the classic snake game.

[@reddfpv2181]

I don’t have either rapid fire nor fusion still on the wall about one of them but on the tbs lounge and with the first fusions were whatever price it was n the module is detachable from the two receivers and what was said is that there’s gonna be better rf receivers very soon if not already and the new fusion with the better receivers is gonna be $10 more then the regular price but people that bought the first batch of fusions can pay $10 and buy the better two receivers board separately and just swop it themselves so people that bought the first batch aren’t left out , so I’m waiting for that to come out before I purchase either one , also tbs did also mention that same problem that u had Joshua with the screen and they showed how’d to take the cover on n off with like a set of tweezers or maybe a small precision flat head area driver or something like that , which made it very easy to take on n off , jus saying lol cause I know how josh loves watching the tbs lounge with his buddy trappy jkjk so excited to see the performance of those rf receivers , later guys

[@dittobimaputra]

Hi Sir its very nice video , please tell me about the rapid fire right bar rssi. What's that means? Thanks before...

[@scottopsahl3205]

Love all the improvements to the menu options, and the crossfire features may be great, but how long until HD becomes the new standard? DJI's product is pretty impressive. Think I'll wait and see.

[@PowerScissor]

Wouldn't those scanning features work better with antennas installed?

[@JoshuaBardwell]

No, not really. The issue is that the signal from the vTX is so strong that it overwhelms the input and the module cannot accurately tell what the peak power frequency is. So adding antennas would actually strengthen the signal and it might make it harder to tell which channel the vTX was on. The auto scan works best when the quads are at somewhat of a distance so the power is strong, but not overwhelmingly strong. The bottom line is that auto-scan never works reliably no matter what module you have.

[@3000gtwelder]

Great job! It looked like a pretty fair review to me.

[@spyder000069]

In this case technically the performance could get better with firmware over time. Not by sensitivity but by how well they hold sync and recreate missing parts of the image needed to keep from scrolling. The secret sauce stuff. I am pretty sure clear view touts a better sensitivity and yet it seems like rapidfire beats it in most tests.

[@borisko6720]

But does it filter the audio interference of the crossfire transmission because it is the only thing that i don’t like when I’m using crossfire

[@rmzjoe_fpv9859]

I need help setting up my tbs module.. How do I get it working with dji Google v2?

[@JorgeJimenez2020]

Good review JB. Please don't even acknowledge those that would be looking for you to extend a feud.

[@MindOfBoomBoom]

I imagine you will have to connect a few wires from the Crossfire to a VTX to interact with the wifi in the module? at the time i reviewed this, there was no manual available. i am not completely sure the manual adds anything you couldnt discover on your own. if you ask me, they needed more unicorn magic sprinkled in the manual than they added....wait....never mind its already over done :P

[@MindOfBoomBoom]

oh one of the other things you may want to be aware of, you cant really attach a Stubby to the Fusion with that cover, doesnt tighten all the way down, unless you never use one, but just in case.

[@JoshuaBardwell]

Crossfire receiver already has the ability to connect to vTX via smartaudio so presumably that is how they'll do it. As for the manual, I wanted to make sure whether there was any more info than I already knew, in the interest of being thorough.

[@MindOfBoomBoom]

@@JoshuaBardwell yes i agree, but i wonder how many people have used crossfire for their smart audio? i went traditional way, direct to FC. but i bet most wont mind changing it from FC to Crossfire. Good Stuff, thanks for the response, i hope TBS sends you a new screen.

[@noobFPV]

I would like to ask again about video dropout. Same thing happened to me. Is there anything you can do to "land" quad "safely" if you lose video ? What is best thing to do, assuming you have few seconds to react ? Turn on stabilization and drop throttle ?

[@JoshuaBardwell]

I believe the safest thing to do is disarm as soon as you lose video. I never want a quad powered up and not in some kind of control. If you had a quad with proper return-to-home or GPS-based loiter, then that would be okay too.

[@marklabonte135]

Great review Joshua. I thought you were very fair.

[@michaelwahl5669]

When scanning, would it not help the SNR to have antennas installed?

[@JoshuaBardwell]

The quads are 6' away from the module. Signal strength is plenty high enough. It's even possible that putting antennas on would make the false-read worse since the signal would be higher and it would be harder to discern the exact frequency of the peak. Bottom line: this is a demonstration not a live test. If antennas were on, it would be in the way of the screen. I have done the same thing with antennas on and the result is always the same. Auto-scan doesn't work well on any module.

[@SkyCandyVisuals]

Hey JB will this module fit in and be compatible with a furious fpv dock king station? Asking because then I could use it with my commanders v1s thx