Too lazy to DIY? GEPRC Hero 8 vs. Insta360 SMO 4k

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Joshua Bardwell

Joshua Bardwell

Күн бұрын

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@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell 3 жыл бұрын
Is the Hero 8 worth the extra $200? Would you spend $450 on a "naked" camera that you're probably just going to destroy?
@badipaddress
@badipaddress 3 жыл бұрын
It is a bit too much for me. Right now I would go on smo 4k or insta360 go 2, even if the quality is worse (expecially the go 2). I am also waiting for caddx peanut (based on go2 but cheaper) and the new Go camera from iFlight
@cinialvespow1054
@cinialvespow1054 3 жыл бұрын
@@badipaddress caddx is making a go2 Competitor?
@badipaddress
@badipaddress 3 жыл бұрын
@@cinialvespow1054 seems so: kzbin.info/www/bejne/o6nGq3-slLyBjbM According to rumors it is based on Insta Go2 but no official specs are released.
@DrMacca
@DrMacca 3 жыл бұрын
I destroyed my Naked Hero 7 with a similarly innocuous crash. I couldn't find another second hand Hero 7 so I replaced it with a Naked Hero 8 and now I fly like an old lady whenever I have to use it. :/ I liked the Insta360 GO (the original) but mine is currently at the bottom of a lake....
@PrOpCiRcLeS
@PrOpCiRcLeS 3 жыл бұрын
I want an action cam so soo bad Joshua!! Any chance you'd part with any of them since your done reviewing them?? :)
@mikihay
@mikihay 3 жыл бұрын
Bardwell forgot something important on the insta360. If you use it land and pull the battery before turning off the recording . You pretty much lose the recording. In the gopro . You dont lose the recording
@kaikart123
@kaikart123 3 жыл бұрын
Wow that's fucked up
@divingfalconfpv4602
@divingfalconfpv4602 2 жыл бұрын
Yea I ended up hooking up the record wire so I can try remember flip switch when landing ..
@TheTryzna
@TheTryzna 3 жыл бұрын
As a hobbyist i would preffer giving my money to Insta360 as they actually care about our hobby, while Gopro is actively trying to make use of their products for us harder and harder.
@sierra3358
@sierra3358 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, canceling session is the beat example
@divingfalconfpv4602
@divingfalconfpv4602 2 жыл бұрын
Same.. I bought 3 insta360 camera.. got show them fpv support to they make more and better cameras
@djdubz
@djdubz 3 жыл бұрын
When the GepRC Naked 8 came out, in May, it originally sold at $369, as I purchased mine from geprc's website at that price. At $369 it was a tough buy, but justified as a gopro 8 is about $300, Gopro 8 BEC $40, plus time (priceless). But at $450, that's a lot to spend on naked gopro hero 8 and don't think I'd order one at that price.
@xxjabarri2xx
@xxjabarri2xx 3 жыл бұрын
SMO is cool for the price but the quality difference between the GP is staggering. the SMO FOV change is cool, until you look at the grain and details in the footage. but if you only have $200 in your budget, looks solid
@lespritz8281
@lespritz8281 3 жыл бұрын
You confirmed my concerns about the SMO. Switching hue and saturation back and forth, is a no go for cine. Glad I havent pulled the trigger few weeks ago.
@mmMartinluu
@mmMartinluu 3 жыл бұрын
I've been using the SMO4k for a while now. I have some color graded examples on my channel. I think for my personal use, it is enough. Really easy to use and set up.
@chrismillersrcfamily
@chrismillersrcfamily 3 жыл бұрын
The SMO is good enough for what I want to do “with this quad”. But on another Rig will be the GoPro 8. 👍🏼👍🏼
@neilfpv
@neilfpv Жыл бұрын
Just saw this video. I'm always behind when jumping in to new technologies. I grabbed an SMO 4K and it will be delivered this coming Saturday. I saw the slow motion you demonstrated at 20:00, wow, I love it! Thank you!
@colebtl
@colebtl 3 жыл бұрын
Would be interesting if adding Insta 360 go 2 to the comparison it's almost the same weight roughly around the same price range and does a lot more than just FPV with the cost of not having 4k
@nickxc
@nickxc 3 жыл бұрын
But why is the power connector on the naked GoPro in the middle with no option to remove the mounting bump? It makes it incompatible with a lot of the naked GoPro mounts out there. The insta360 comes with an extra back plate so you can use the other kind of mount.
@pacificnorthwestpilots6050
@pacificnorthwestpilots6050 3 жыл бұрын
20:48 When you started to talk about the gopro footy, you went into asmr mode 🎙
@DCFPV-yy4xx
@DCFPV-yy4xx 3 жыл бұрын
i soldered pins on the positive and negative wires for my SMO plug so i can just plug it in to the balance plug of what ever battery i’m using
@ByteMeFPV
@ByteMeFPV 3 жыл бұрын
Ha, awesome... I had to look down and make sure I was in a different shirt, today. Cheers JB, I'm down to my last Micro Eagle 2...
@thinbluelinelife
@thinbluelinelife 3 жыл бұрын
I almost ordered the diy kit but I find it hard to tear down a perfectly good gopro. I just resorted to the insta360go 2.
@SlipperyFPV
@SlipperyFPV 3 жыл бұрын
Tearing apart a perfectly functioning GP 8 Black definitely felt wrong and had me procrastinating for quite some time! 🙈😬😂
@Lacocao
@Lacocao 3 жыл бұрын
I ordered the kit and a brand new go pro hero 7 and can’t bring myself to do it… I don’t trust myself.
@SlipperyFPV
@SlipperyFPV 3 жыл бұрын
@@Lacocao just make sure you've got all the tools you need, follow a guide, take your time and it's really not that hard to do. If you can build a quad then this is relatively easy. I ran my camera for half hour or so in 4k to heat it up to help with the glue.
@RyanPiwarski
@RyanPiwarski 3 жыл бұрын
can you lock settings like iso, white balance, and shutter on the go 2 @FPV_ME ?
@thinbluelinelife
@thinbluelinelife 3 жыл бұрын
@@RyanPiwarski that I do not know. I'll have to see.
@Selph_EU
@Selph_EU 3 жыл бұрын
No need to solder anything on your quad, just use the balance plug of your battery. :) That's what I'm doing with the smo4k.
@knuckleh3ad_flies557
@knuckleh3ad_flies557 3 жыл бұрын
Any vids on how to do that? Just got the geprc hero8
@Selph_EU
@Selph_EU 3 жыл бұрын
@@knuckleh3ad_flies557 kzbin.info/www/bejne/aYeXoIR4jNmhaNk You don't need to keep the cables between the first and the last, just connect the power and ground and you're good to go.
@SketchyOperations
@SketchyOperations 3 жыл бұрын
@Joshua Bardwell, your footage starting at 17:37 looks to be stabilized. May need a correction there.
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell 3 жыл бұрын
The label is correct. I guess I misspoke when I recorded the voice over and missed it.
@Vincious
@Vincious 3 жыл бұрын
The geprc GoPro 8 bec looks exactly like betafpv’s version. Are thy the same?
@j.c.m5168
@j.c.m5168 3 жыл бұрын
My only issue is that the last time I bought something direct from GepRC that was going to ship "In a week" I never even got the item. A month later I canceled the order. I won't spend with them anymore even if it is a product I wouldn't try.
@FastSloW-qt8xf
@FastSloW-qt8xf 3 жыл бұрын
I recently got back into fpv after raising babies a few years ,,, frickin life. All my old gear seems obsolete when it was cutting edge 5 or so years ago. Quite frustrating
@maybenikhil
@maybenikhil 3 жыл бұрын
As someone who started ~5 years ago, it's pretty crazy how much stuff had progressed
@Jrod_FPV
@Jrod_FPV 3 жыл бұрын
Mostly quality of life features after turtle mode IMO... Then again, those are the exact type of features that make the hobby easier and possibly more accessible.
@theHotpointHoodlum
@theHotpointHoodlum 3 жыл бұрын
I started 1 1/2 - 2 yrs ago and almost immediately I noticed the same thing…. Just keep collecting? Sell on fpv exchange? I’m 4 1/2 quads deep now
@tripslip38
@tripslip38 3 жыл бұрын
I feel you. My kids are 4 and 6 now. I was hot into a documentary filmmaking ride for bush planes with cameras, stabilizers, lens, etc from 2015. Had to pretty much put it on the shelf. Getting sidelined sucks.
@lezartvert
@lezartvert 5 күн бұрын
HELLO DOES ANYONE KNOW A FIRMWARE VERSION OF THE INSTA360 APP TO USE THE SMO4K CAMERA. THEIR LATEST VERSIONS ARE NO LONGER COMPATIBLE...
@VijitChandna
@VijitChandna 3 жыл бұрын
For insta 360, I'm happy companies are taking fpv seriously, unlike GoPro
@ericbraun4652
@ericbraun4652 3 жыл бұрын
The resolution limitations with the SMO are a result of post-processing FOV and stabilization. For example, if you record at 4k and then change to narrow FOV in post, you're not going to get 4k anymore. That's why GoPro makes you make that decision when you're recording.
@zachigley9526
@zachigley9526 3 жыл бұрын
can you show how to or where to actually solder the Insta360 SMO4K wires???
@JustinormousFPV
@JustinormousFPV 3 жыл бұрын
The SMO gave me that annoying error too. I've found if you connect to its wifi first, then open the app, there isn't an issue.
@AlexInde
@AlexInde 3 жыл бұрын
Same to mee, I always connect manually via WIFI using 88888888 password and it never fails
@JustinormousFPV
@JustinormousFPV 3 жыл бұрын
@@AlexInde For sure! Also, for the price, I don't mind the video quality. Quirky, but overall a great product.
@koset
@koset 3 жыл бұрын
I definitely think there's a market for these. I have done a LOT of DIY electronics since I was 12. I've done assembler programming and built lots of PCs. It's a matter of how much time you want to spend on each component. Now, I just want to charge, bind, betaflight, and fly.
@flightfpv7945
@flightfpv7945 2 жыл бұрын
It seemed to me that the SMO 4K has lost focus on distant objects. Perhaps it makes sense to twist the lens.
@McConnellStudios
@McConnellStudios 3 жыл бұрын
I use naked Gopros and his comment about the locking plug is right on, I trimmed the locking tab of the power plugs down on mine so that when they (often) get pulled in a crash it will not pull the female plug end out. losing power is better than killing the BEC. I created tpu mounts that hold the angle so it is less likely to pull out. Will be checking out the GepRC version, been using iflight's tpu cases. Comments about SMO 4k dropping files if turned off or losing power are accurate. GoPro Labs QR system is the way to go, there is an app that you can set all the details with, and a website that you can use to set perfect time to the second. I use the QR code to set the camera to activate by motion sensor. Excellent system.
@SlipperyFPV
@SlipperyFPV 3 жыл бұрын
If you want the best or you're a pro only the GoPro will cut it, also if you want ease of use with Reelsteady Go.
@BigChuck_1
@BigChuck_1 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@kag46
@kag46 3 жыл бұрын
Flying with Insta360 for second month - it’s ok for cinematic usage, but for freestyle it’s a bit pain if you landing hard and if you touch power cord - video will not be saved and file will be corrupted, so definitely it’s use case for safe flights only.
@verdi6092
@verdi6092 3 жыл бұрын
Happened to me too but i was using an extra regulator and capasitor between the smo4k to the batt lead. Fixed the connection and now when i crash its still recording
@staticfpv881
@staticfpv881 3 жыл бұрын
always knowing what I’m into JB. Looking at one today. I’ll make my own
@upnorthFPVandEUC
@upnorthFPVandEUC 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting that Bardwell solders the camera's power lead to each quad.. it is waaay easier to use one lead for all quads and just connect the other end to balance lead of the lipo battery. I've been doing this for a year with zero problems. I run the SMO and hero 9 this way.
@upnorthFPVandEUC
@upnorthFPVandEUC 3 жыл бұрын
@@aberthehamNot my genius.. copied from others but thanks!
@SamHaberONE
@SamHaberONE 3 жыл бұрын
A big win for the gepRC hero8, is if you already have hero 8s and you want to be able to work with the same footage settings and workflow with footage from a smaller quad.
@Max_N.
@Max_N. 2 жыл бұрын
tell me the model of the drone, the video transmitter and the protocol you used in the video?
@AerialPixel
@AerialPixel 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Joshua, great video as usual. Update to the 2021 version of Insta360 Studio, you then have the FPV option to use. I agree completely I like my naked GoPros (Hero 6 and 8) over the SMO 4K hands down.
@nzii3
@nzii3 Жыл бұрын
Would you be able to review the “new” GEPRC Naked Hero 9/10/11? I’ve seen that it’s a little bit bigger than a normal naked gopro.
@alphaghost13674
@alphaghost13674 2 жыл бұрын
How do you power the Geprc Naked GoPro Hero 8? I know it comes with a cable to solder to the FC, but I hear that could cause damage due to spikes on some boards used on naked gopros. I also see there is a cable to power from balance lead, but my concern would again be damage due to spikes. I see people powering from balance lead and use a 5v regulator in between the lipo and camera. So is the BEC on most boards not good enough protection?
@nathaliewernimont-donfut894
@nathaliewernimont-donfut894 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Joshua! Thanks for your reviews, very interesting. Something I can't figure out is what SMO stands for. Although I have the naked 8 from GEPRC. For my general culture...thank you !
@gimbalair
@gimbalair 2 жыл бұрын
Really helpful again as I chose between a cinerace and cinelog both only suitable for a naked style camera
@jondoe6618
@jondoe6618 3 жыл бұрын
I use a gopro 3 in the big hard shell!!! Took it off, and do not even notice a difference. And it is heavy.
@jakeh3144
@jakeh3144 3 жыл бұрын
Just FYI, unless i'm mistaken, at 17:41 you mention 2.7k30fps no stability but the legend in the upper left says 4k30fps stability on. Great video comparison, thanks!
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell 3 жыл бұрын
The legend is correct.
@DeeFPV
@DeeFPV 3 жыл бұрын
i wish there was a cheap knock off naked gopro to use and to save money in the long run
@zacjohnson8404
@zacjohnson8404 3 жыл бұрын
22:06 gopro looks like it has a layer similar to what you will find in lightroom, I forgot what it's called. either way their smoothing/sharpening looks way better than the insta360. I wonder if it could just be an algorithm thing not actually hardware.
@derarsad
@derarsad 3 жыл бұрын
There is a newer Version of the Insta360 Software, in the Video it it the 2020 Version, there is a 2021 Version (since May I think) with special FPV Stabilization etc.
@PmJ727272
@PmJ727272 2 жыл бұрын
what about the new kid in the block, the RunCam thumb Pro, any thoughts? because I can get 2 thumb pro and still have money left instead of 1 naked and fragile gopro or insta360
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell 2 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/eZq7oqBmZpufoMU&ab_channel=JoshuaBardwell
@elishahodgson1635
@elishahodgson1635 3 жыл бұрын
I would be interested in a comparason between the insta 360 go and insta 360 go 2, in particular the durability for 3inch freestyle.
@comsterfpv9668
@comsterfpv9668 3 жыл бұрын
Nice comparison of some interesting options. I'm really hoping the Caddx Peanut is available soon.
@31PSPNEO
@31PSPNEO 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Joshua, my GEPRC naked gopro 8 the lens glass cover felt off as well what did you use to put it back?
@chrisquinell5816
@chrisquinell5816 3 жыл бұрын
Will we see a iflight action cam comparison soon as well?
@kevinbeltboost8075
@kevinbeltboost8075 3 жыл бұрын
@Joshua Bardwell Did you have to print a custom mount to mount the SMO4K to the Geprc Smart 35?
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell 3 жыл бұрын
No it came with a screw mount.
@DrohneschweizCh
@DrohneschweizCh 3 жыл бұрын
What about the new iflight camera ?
@maniac_fpv
@maniac_fpv Жыл бұрын
Can I solder geprc gopro to my esc + - where is the XT60 ?
@jalnaidu3088
@jalnaidu3088 3 жыл бұрын
Well explained thanks for all the information that you have educated us, keep up the good job.👍
@shastafpv39
@shastafpv39 3 жыл бұрын
Hey bardwell I am loving the videos but i wanted to know if you would recommend the avio 3 in
@utube521
@utube521 2 жыл бұрын
Can you easily replace lens in this insta360 smo?
@OldManCassius
@OldManCassius 3 жыл бұрын
At 17:43 you say it's 2.7k30 without stabilization but the notes in the top left say 4k60 with stabilization?
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell 3 жыл бұрын
The note is correct. I misspoke. But when making the titles I double checked the clip properties to be sure.
@OldManCassius
@OldManCassius 3 жыл бұрын
@@JoshuaBardwell Noted, thank you
@MathieuTerzian
@MathieuTerzian 3 жыл бұрын
Reelsteady is GoPro’s best ally in FPV/drone footage. The moment you can use it with other smaller, cheaper cams, there will be no hesitation to switch to, say… a caddx peanut ;-)
@TinkerTweakFPV
@TinkerTweakFPV 3 жыл бұрын
So I noticed in video you applied your gopro settings before getting color graded.. Which I'm sure locked ISO, WB and so forth in protunes... I'd be curious what settings did you manually set or lock before the smo 4k was color graded? Also when you factor in post editing stabilization, which is included in insta360's software vs the realsteady add on which is another $100 for GoPro users. While it's surely a second in image quality, the smo4k comes out ahead a bit more in savings.
@robertmcintyre6298
@robertmcintyre6298 2 жыл бұрын
Hello! This may be a dumb question because I am new to the hobby but how did you actually wire the power for the cameras into the drone? To the flight controller or the ESC and where? I have a CineWhoop that I would like to use this on to have it power it. Thank you!
@flowstate_link
@flowstate_link 3 жыл бұрын
I have this Naked GoPro case from GepRC you mention it takes standard Hero 8 filters? Is this right? If you have links and you have tested would be keen to see I have a feeling maybe it takes Hero6/6 filters? Very keen to get some filters. Got a 3D file for an adapter to some insta360 filters.. yet to print and test. If I can just get standard filters from a off the shelf for the GepRC Naked case that would be great.
@unything2696
@unything2696 3 жыл бұрын
I want that T-Shirt!
@richardburrows1610
@richardburrows1610 3 жыл бұрын
How/can do you hook up the blue and yellow wires to take advantage of the remote on/off?
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell 3 жыл бұрын
Video is coming.
@DashzRight
@DashzRight 3 жыл бұрын
Instead of making these un-aerodinamic and fragile shapes, why dont they make a rugged session-box style with an interchangeable lens protector that can be cheaply replaced when you break it?
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell 3 жыл бұрын
Because making a great action camera is hard. There are cameras like that, such as the Runcam 5 Orange and Caddx Orca. The image quality is not very good.
@DashzRight
@DashzRight 3 жыл бұрын
@@JoshuaBardwell I mean it would make sense and be technically possible to fit This geprc-insta tech into That cube shape …
@sergioaugusto3904
@sergioaugusto3904 3 жыл бұрын
In which you can buy again
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell 3 жыл бұрын
It wouldn't fit into a cube shape because it's based on the original Hero 8 mainboard, which is a wide rectangle. I mean, I guess anything is possible but not by using the Hero mainboard.
@strikerFPV
@strikerFPV 3 жыл бұрын
Sadly all the "competition" to gopro has the issue with colors and hue. They all have either a red, blue or green color tint that's impossible to grade properly ):
@badipaddress
@badipaddress 3 жыл бұрын
And impossibility to use reelsteady go...
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell 3 жыл бұрын
GoPro's color science is far from perfect, but lock ISO, lock white balance, and use flat color profile, and you definitely have something you can work with. Nobody else even comes close.
@MoppelMat
@MoppelMat 3 жыл бұрын
You should have locked iso and shutter on the 360, I bet that the colors dont shift then.
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell 3 жыл бұрын
I don't lock shutter on any of my FPV systems because the exposure changes between sky and shadow are too extreme. If you lock both ISO and shutter, you will get pure blackness or pure white in some part of your recording, unless you are flying in a very controlled lighting situation. You have to lock ISO only and then let shutter compensate for changing exposure. The Insta and GoPro were set up as close to ideal as their software would let me.
@RyanPiwarski
@RyanPiwarski 3 жыл бұрын
@@JoshuaBardwell can you lock the exposure on both of these cameras?
@KernsJW
@KernsJW 3 жыл бұрын
Still think the naked black 7 is good enough and I think I'll buy or make another. The fact the smo4k lies about its resolution is sad.
@hateeternalmaver
@hateeternalmaver 3 жыл бұрын
The GoPro's 4k-footage had a weird "heartbeat" -like stuttering on my 144p viewport... I don't think I'm really able to view 4k-footage on my end but this still was weird and is reproducable for me. 🤔
@jozafax
@jozafax 3 жыл бұрын
For me also, at 1080p
@nossaga
@nossaga 2 жыл бұрын
How did you use so easy the app for the SMO??, I CANT MAKE IT RUN, my SMO wont run on my iphone 13… and support betafpv dont want to assume the error… god im so sorry for picking the SMO… now i have to buy another camera…
@nossaga
@nossaga 2 жыл бұрын
Incant bind the smo to my phone…
@TheFrankHempel
@TheFrankHempel 3 жыл бұрын
Could it be that less sharpness of the SMO4k is a problem of focus? And thanks again for a great video ...
@ShinyVideoStuff
@ShinyVideoStuff 3 жыл бұрын
HDR mode on SMO 4K looks much better than the normal one in challenging lighting. You lose FPV stabilisation but good for cinematic shots.
@CJisFPV
@CJisFPV 3 жыл бұрын
I disagree. The HDR mode isnt true HDR, its taking multiple exposures and combining them. which sounds great, but you get these ghosting effects with fast movement stuff... like FPV footage. The glider video on my page was shot in HDR mode. notice when I pass it you can see ghosting in the plane.
@mx118racer
@mx118racer 3 жыл бұрын
Gopro hero 10 session, 30g just do it gopro the fpv community needs it , even if it was like insta360go and had internal memory and 30mins of battery time
@charlesmarseille123
@charlesmarseille123 3 жыл бұрын
you cut the video after the three button presses on the naked8. What was the problem?
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell 3 жыл бұрын
No problem. It just took a second to get it to connect and I didn't want to waste your time.
@charlesmarseille123
@charlesmarseille123 3 жыл бұрын
@@JoshuaBardwell That's the kind of info that is interesting though in a product review and comparison. I personnally have a lot of difficulty to pair nakeds with the app, so that's why I noticed. Great work as always, thanks JB.
@unything2696
@unything2696 3 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see feeding the gyro data from the FC for post processing image stabilization! Crazy thought and a nightmare to program I guess, having no experience myself.
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell 3 жыл бұрын
That program exists. I think it's called gyro flow.
@unything2696
@unything2696 3 жыл бұрын
@@JoshuaBardwell You truly know it all;) Thanks a lot, will check that out (after the Video). And it's impressive to see what people are willing to try.
@Troublesolver
@Troublesolver 3 жыл бұрын
Now now. Remember that gopro does the exact same with its 4k recordings. Unless there is something i dont understand the sensor and lens is both fixed and if shooting 4k 4:3 the whole sensor is in use.. when shooting in linear or cinematic or hypersmooth or whatever the recording cannot be 4k even tho its outputted as it.
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell 3 жыл бұрын
I know what you're saying, but the Insta360 situation is much worse. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qpqtZ3ynadFpmsk GoPro is basically cropping in on the sensor to get different FOV. Ok that's understandable that if you go to a narrower FOV, it's digital zoom not optical zoom, so you don't get full sensor resolution. Insta360 is doing things like upscaling 1080p to 2.7k for 2.7k 100fps output, because the image processor can't do 2.7k @ 100 fps. So why lie? Why not just support 1080p @ 100 fps.
@Troublesolver
@Troublesolver 3 жыл бұрын
I agree 👍
@Vousie
@Vousie 3 жыл бұрын
@@JoshuaBardwell Of course they're lying... Isn't this the same company that took GPL code & illegally stuffed it into their proprietary firmware? Also, the Insta360 saying it's 4k but actually not recording in 4k isn't "kinda weird". It's *very scammy.*
@thercbat
@thercbat 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video. Was very helpful. Think the 360 is what I can afford for now. The naked go parts like the bec board and case aren't easily available here sadly.
@ProjectMockingbird
@ProjectMockingbird 3 жыл бұрын
The biggest thing I've found with almost anything that isn't GoPro is that the bitrate is just too low for a lot of "real" work and nobody really talks about that. Yes, sensor size and sensor play a big part too, but one of the big killers of the OG Insta360 Go was/is that 30-40mbps bitrate. The SMO says it will do 100mpbs but I haven't seen an FPV reviewer talk or show if that's true or not. Obviously the SMO is going to lose on resolution, but if it can not look like Campbell's Chunky Bit Soup by controlling bitrate, then it might be an okay option...maybe just not at that price. :)
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell 3 жыл бұрын
The 100 Mbps bitrate is kind of meaningless if the data being fed to the encoder is garbage. You just get a shitty looking high-bitrate file. But yeah I assume the bitrate they advertise is accurate.
@ProjectMockingbird
@ProjectMockingbird 3 жыл бұрын
@@JoshuaBardwell true, if the sensor is shite, no need for good bitrate. I just haven’t seen a reviewer look into the settings on the smo or the desktop app to confirm bitrate. I know my 1st gen 360go does 33mbps 99% of the time even though 40 is advertised
@birdhz
@birdhz 3 жыл бұрын
this gopro 8 overheat?
@jtaraskus
@jtaraskus 3 жыл бұрын
3:11 ok how about protune? :D how do you set shutter speed?
@flowstate_link
@flowstate_link 3 жыл бұрын
You can use the labs to pair or do it all with labs… Labs is so great once you get used to it
@moblades1
@moblades1 3 жыл бұрын
So the thing in my experience with durability and cameras, a lot of it depends on the mount. For instance, the case from CMW is the best I have seen for protection. Might weigh a few grams more but it’s tough. I find those mounts that grab the middle of the cam leaving the ends exposed to be the least protective. I have a GP7 with cracked back screen and no cover on the USB that is proof lol.
@docfeelgood7830
@docfeelgood7830 3 жыл бұрын
I'll pass , I'll stick with the gopro hero 7 and my insta360 r with 360 and 4k mod . Thank you for a great detailed video I do appreciate it !
@nolacross704
@nolacross704 3 жыл бұрын
can you do a test on Hobbyking graphene panthers if you haven't
@havoc_64
@havoc_64 3 жыл бұрын
hmm, my insta360 app has a FPV settting... on FOV view
@MrBubba123bubba
@MrBubba123bubba 3 жыл бұрын
JB: “Do you like to.....do it....yourself? He he” Everyone: “....”
@changeagent228
@changeagent228 3 жыл бұрын
Do they include the mic to reattach?
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell 3 жыл бұрын
No they don't.
@MarksRandomVideos
@MarksRandomVideos 3 жыл бұрын
From what I can see there is a new ONE R firmware with sharpness adjustment, do we know if it works on the SMO4K? Which FW was yours? I notice no "FPV mode" in your studio.
@verdi6092
@verdi6092 3 жыл бұрын
Its only on ios
@olacfpv
@olacfpv 3 жыл бұрын
@@verdi6092 no, this option also exist in Insta360 for computer.
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell 3 жыл бұрын
FPV Mode was present on some of my clips, just for some reason it wasn't available on that clip. I'm not sure why.
@fahadrafat4027
@fahadrafat4027 3 жыл бұрын
Does the insta360 SMO allow footage rotation in the app like the insta360 go?
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell 3 жыл бұрын
No.
@NarcolepticLTD
@NarcolepticLTD 2 жыл бұрын
The loss of audio is the only thing holding me back on ordering the kit for a gopro
@AdrianoCasemiro
@AdrianoCasemiro 3 жыл бұрын
Damn, Bardwell! Now I want them both!
@JohnFSmitheugene
@JohnFSmitheugene 3 жыл бұрын
That news blew me away! I already own the SMO 4K, and despite it's limitations, I really do appreciate what it can do, especially in post. But, it's one thing to be $200 less with product support behind it and (hopefully) accessories and new product development to come. It's a totally different thing to be $200 less with no future. That's just an extended closeout. Just sayin'
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not 100% on this so please don't take it too far. I'm just confused why BetaFPV says, "this is out of stock go buy it from resellers," instead of, "out of stock for now but will be back soon."
@JohnnySnipes
@JohnnySnipes 3 жыл бұрын
I bought the geprc hero 8 👍🏼
@luismahieu
@luismahieu 3 жыл бұрын
Watching in 360p 😮 that quality is insane!
@MrVIDEOACE
@MrVIDEOACE 3 жыл бұрын
I got the insta360 smo and i hate it. It crashes most times right after stratup, stoping and saving a video almost never works (probably 2 times out of 10 flights). If it works the video is nice, as you expect. I would never buy it again. edit: and also the cable connector is weak, after a few times plugging in/out it startet cracking and after a light crash it ripped of the female part on the cam. i had to solder the cables directly.
@birdhz
@birdhz 3 жыл бұрын
i got gopro nake 6 and i crash destroy it 2 times i hate gopro6 naked durable lol
@Jandodev
@Jandodev 3 жыл бұрын
So hyped I just got the conversion kit from geprc in the mail!
@Jandodev
@Jandodev 3 жыл бұрын
My plam was to buy another broken hero 8 and slosh it on in!
@Jandodev
@Jandodev 3 жыл бұрын
I think geprc is quailty no one seems to believe me
@RealKushrage
@RealKushrage 3 жыл бұрын
What I don´t like is that GEPRC does not include the Display. So you have no way to setup all your protune settings since GoPro removed the protune options from the new Quick App and I absolutely can´t understand why the fuck they removed this feature... For my naked hero 6 I just printed a case for the display that I can push on the back of the hero 6 and I can setup all my stuff.
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell 3 жыл бұрын
They didn't I close the screen most likely because they never had it. I assume they sourced these parts on the Grey market and didn't ever have whole gopros.
@MCgranat999
@MCgranat999 3 жыл бұрын
In response to the editors comment. Since the camera runs Linux, I wonder if we could change the behavior of the sensor. I'm interested if anyone could test this.
@FabioPansera
@FabioPansera 3 жыл бұрын
Hello, I'm the editor :) Virtually, I believe it is possible, in practice you should reinvent the whole color science behind it, and most of the time it would invalidate the encoding and the post processing of the image which has quite strict parameters. You would probably end up with a corrupt file at best and/or a fried sensor at worst :(
@LucianoVeryNiceHi
@LucianoVeryNiceHi 3 жыл бұрын
totally unrelated, i love how JBs phone is exploding from disco msgs... can you even turn volume up on your phone, bro? :D
@adamvictor9124
@adamvictor9124 3 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see a naked camera that is armored or built inside a quad so you get some weight saving without sacrificing durability.
@georgeaura
@georgeaura 3 жыл бұрын
What was the sharpening set to on gp?
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell 3 жыл бұрын
Medium. I have used low sharpening before, but it's super super soft and you pretty much have to apply sharpening in post.
@johnd499
@johnd499 3 жыл бұрын
You live in such a beautiful place
@RubberTag
@RubberTag 3 жыл бұрын
But is it safe?
@havoc_64
@havoc_64 3 жыл бұрын
and the price point, Naked Gopro 8 vs SMO4k...I can deal with the color issues of the SMO4k for the couple of hundred $$ savings... :)
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