Bardwell Rants About Remote ID For Just Under 30 Minutes! - FPV Stream

[@benjaming9835]

Joshua, when. I moved to the USA and to California the local city started adding stop light cameras to all the traffic lights. I was very surprised to find out that a large majority of people with fines didn’t pay, and many took the city to court. It ended up costing too much money to prosecute them all, and the city gave up and ended up removing the cameras. This is a surprising outcome, but it worked.

[@chrisfrombrisbane]

Bruce is doing a good job of getting pilots motivated and vocal

[@shadowofchaos8932]

My droneID module's battery only lasts for 5 mins. It's on my drone officer. It just isn't working because of the battery.

[@xymaryai8283]

Remote ID could have been marketed as an expansion to our freedoms. the FAA could have turned this into a big fat W if they left all the pre-RID regulations alone, and instead said "if you equip your drone with a GPS broadcast RID module, you will be allowed to fly as far as your direct transmission radio and video link can take you, and you can transmit up to 2 watts, and you aren't required to have a spotter, etc etc" then people would be overjoyed! they could even say "and if you install a network module, you can do autonomous flight plans and cellular based radio and video, fly in Class E airspace up to a higher altitude, and have unlimited altitude in Class G airspace, because we can trust you care about your drone if you install this module, so we will let you have EXTRA freedoms." but no, they instead said "we have no evidence, but you are dangerous operators and we don't trust you, so unless you report to us we will prosecute you"

[@xymaryai8283]

i have seen those videos of extreme high altitude, extreme long range flights (it was of a hexacopter which is genuinely dangerous, but it could have been a foamy) which was very illegal back then, and is extremely illegal now, but that was so cool, and if you are invested enough and safe enough to do something out of standard operation, gaining regulatory permission for it should be as easy as equipping a module. i wish i could go above the clouds and fly across the city without being in danger of a GA accident, or burning lots of expensive 100LL aviation fuel. i would be happy to be transmitting ADSB data and have flight recorders and all of that cool aviation safety equipment, but be cozy at home in a VR Cockpit... but within human scale operation, within bird-like capability operation, it should be consequence based regulation, not privilege based.

[@glenmiller1437]

I like the concept, and I agree with your first paragraph. That would have been great, and I think safe at 400ft down. Paragraph 2 is too much, sorry. There are too many idiots out there to have random activity in class G. Perhaps that would be possible with 107 certification and additional training/equipment, but not for the average hobbyist.

[@xymaryai8283]

@@glenmiller1437 yeah, its an extreme example, but the point is that network RID is a very high level of tracking, and only people who are serious about keeping the airspace safe would be willing to do that. its similar to the freedoms that ultralight or paramotors have, but with the extra communication to make up for the lack of a pilot on board. but yeah, perhaps thats something that requires registration

[@tanker7757]

lol Non compliance is the only option left to us we have done everything else

[@brianlangford7278]

Nobody's trying run us off highway for $,this about amazon buying out state governments, you have to fight back,not giving up flying so some clown can get coffee from a amazon drone ,to hell with them

[@shadowofchaos8932]

With so few DroneID tags options available, would an officer know what a RID module look like? I can glue spare pieces together and call it a RID tag. It just has a really short battery life. Because battery life on RID isn't regulated.

[@loukasdrones3038]

Bruce at least keeps trying and trying to do the right thing for all of us. Maybe the only people really prepared to call out are the ones not frightened where their next KZbin buck is coming from

[@Carboneye7]

You are quite correct and it is an inconvenient truth. The continuation of a problem this channel has always had.

[@Jay-zc7iq]

⁠his business suffers with non compliance, bucks first law later

[@kelrobins7476]

Exactly I wonder what side of the fence JB would be on if he wasn't making money out of FPV and he didn't have to cover his a$$ maybe JB isn't as PUNK as I first thought 🤔

[@Simey2wheels]

maybe you should all unsubscribe from JB that would teach him a lesson! Like he gives a sh1t!

[@rc-fannl7364]

Sure, Bruce can be a little harsh at times, and I can understand JB feels somewhat hurt by the "you just let it happen and never put up a fight" remarks. But the "let's comply and maybe at some point we'll gain back an inch of leeway here and there" after getting dragged along for miles down a path that is destructive for the hobby, puts rc pilots at risk of getting harassed or robbed by people who track their location, and also is a blatant government overreach, doesn't feel very confidence inspiring...

[@scu-dub]

People will be robbed and possibly killed over their gear....if people can see us pilots we should be able to see who's seeing us!!!! We deserve to be protected....fpv gear is expensive and some people will want to get theirs for free you can believe that! It's sad but your gonna have to get your foid and carry to fly safely in the future....smh

[@PaulyDFPV]

Always keep the CCW on hand when flying!

[@scu-dub]

@@PaulyDFPV 😁✌🏼

[@wearemany73]

Non-compliance (if you’re able) is an “obligation” rather than the act of someone who hasn’t thought it through. Bruce is 100% right about how we can deal with RID and quoting Bruce on some of these claims needed a little context. This is one of those rare moments where I disagree with some of the assertions JB is making about Xjet. It would take far too long to pull this “rant” apart but JB does make a few important points from time to time, the Civil rights era analogies certainly weren’t any of those times. Here’s the thing, Bardwell is much respected and loved in the community and sometimes we HAVE to realise that knowing a whole bunch about FPV technically doesn’t necessarily translate to this complex issue. There’s not one single person on the planet with whom I agree completely on every issue. The pushback starts right now and “non-compliance” IS part of the strategy.

[@joemck1235]

He doesn't even use a spotter in his videos so comeon people

[@joemck1235]

Jb doesn't so who is really cares about complying its gonna happen so just get over it

[@pepper8048]

Confucius says: If you allow yourself to be led around by your nose ring, you'll end up with a tattoo on your face.

[@joemck1235]

I really don't care what anyone does I could care less about remote ID If I get away with not using one cool I not I'll get one cool I could care less really and if the faa isn't worried about all the youtubers not following the rules then what the fuck would I care about the rules then lmfao you guys so worried about nothing who cares don't fly then if you don't wanna use a rid fly without one who gives a fuck

[@bigdatapimp]

Well said

[@SueMyChin]

Your comments on Bruce, particularly the boat analogy is miles off. He was saying before anything had happened -"This is the thin end of the wedge, don't comply!" In your analogy he was waving his arms around saying - "There's a storm coming don't launch the boat!" He's now waving his arms around saying turn back while everyone is bailing water. If nobody had registered, what would the FAA have done? How could they defend their system if it achieved nothing. We're now literally paying the FAA to take our hobby away 1 registration fee at a time. To them it looks like everyone is onboard with it. The first step toward change is awareness and Bruce has done more for that than the rest of you put together. Like you said he's thousands of miles away and can literally do nothing but talk. How you think that's worth of criticism is beyond me. F take here JB.

[@freiermann7]

As a firearms enthusiast as well, obviously there are no end of regulations being piled on us. We don’t comply with those either when they become unreasonable. Law enforcement refuses to enforce those ridiculous laws. The regulations become impotent. Make sure you are reaching out to your local elected officials and law enforcement about this and see where they stand. Get yourself FPV sanctuary cities. It is our duty not to bow down to tyrants. The Supreme Court is supposed to be clipping the balls of these alphabet agencies since they are not elected officials who are allowed to create law in the first place. The pistol brace battle currently being fought has bigger implications.

[@LangstonHublot]

Not remotely the same..gun laws are getting looser by all accounts. Don't bring your nonsensical arguments to the fpv world

[@marcdornan1454]

It's a terrible analogy Firearms are a leading cause of death in the USA and they should be regulated except, IMHO, people wildly misinterpret the spirit and meaning of the 2nd amendment. Hobby drones have never harmed anyone, ever, while being used recreationally. Disturbed people don't grab DJI drones and massacre people. They are fundamentally not remotely dangerous.

[@freiermann7]

@@marcdornan1454 yadda yadda heard all that before kid and you are wrong. Nice try though. Better luck next time.

[@marcdornan1454]

That's exactly how all gun zealots like you respond. I am entirely correct, however. Guns are one of the leading causes of homicide in the US, drones are not. Not aware that they have caused any deaths ever, globally. It's a poor analogy.

[@freiermann7]

@@marcdornan1454 yeah yeah yeah

[@Carboneye7]

non compliance is in fact accomplishing something, it is negating the effects on you and your property, and the effect is immediate. This is about a perceived fear and those who use such perceptions of punishment to overstep and control for reasons that do not benefit the one being victimized.

[@gqp4800]

RID is plain unAmerican

[@FlyturboKwad]

It goes against the First and Fourth Amendment! Then again, what do I know, I AM CANADIAN!!!!

[@cowboydestroy]

What if I have a stalker and I am a 107 pilot and I don't want to broadcast my location and my address to my stalker? What do I do?

[@maddercat]

xjet did have a victory when he flew his whoop around outside his house and got cited, and then they let him off..so that set a precedent at least.

[@Simey2wheels]

in New Zealand! where the locals see it as a joke! you need context that you just don't get from one person's videos

[@TravisHenry09]

That's a nice remote ID policy you got there... Be a shame if several someones were to...secure several spoof modules to a clowder of feral cats to release beside their nearest major airports on a specific meaningful date.

[@3eggerfpv397]

Okay, then from what Blunty said about the courts stating you can't theorize because no one has been prosecuted, then what was the whole point of the litigation from RDQ? If it didn't matter what lawyer you had or anything else, what was the point of taking something you're going to lose, obviously, to court?

[@jozafax]

What if we got some regulators hooked on FPV?

[@MysteryD]

Honestly I don't think most local law enforcement are going to be willing to stop people from enjoying their safe activity.

[@bigdatapimp]

Sadly this is likely inaccurate. There are already many cops with a hard on for busting drone pilots. With federal backing and encouragement there will be many more.

[@MysteryD]

@@bigdatapimp Eh, not the ones I've encountered. They usually think its dope af and wanna see from the goggles.

[@SkeezyFPV]

If it will put federal money in local coffers they will crack down like white on rice.

[@MysteryD]

@@SkeezyFPV It won't though. An FAA rule doesn't magically produce money for local police.

[@MysteryD]

@@SkeezyFPV Also, you used a bad analogy. White on rice? Usually that's used to describe something that's stuck together.

[@Magneticitist]

I think non-compliance just earns them more money if people are only saying "no" then getting fined or arrested, as opposed to forming a community that then has some representative formulate a cohesive set of reasoning behind why remote ID is unreasonable.

[@airfoxphotography3882]

Here is a question, If people don't comply and FAA agrees that if your fling in your back yard you don't have to have RID. So lets say from 0AGL to 200ft AGL RID is not needed that will appease the FPV group of people. And anything over 200ft will require RID. ie shield operations . What happens then?

[@umop3plsdn]

thats a better outcome then forcing RID everywhere at least

[@paulr3556]

How'd they go fining people under Ham licences? Heard they haven't for a while. Hope this heads the same way by mass non-compliance. Should flood the skies with kids flying under 250g, and let the cops charge all the kids. See how long it lasts.

[@LobstersLobsters]

Yeah how long have people been blasting 5.8ghz @ 1w without licenses? Takes AGES for the FCC to find and fine stationary Ham operators who take over bands and break the rules. I don't understand how the FAA will be any more efficient.

[@alanmcampbell]

Thank you Bruce for fighting for our hobby. I Don't know why people find the need to run you down after all you have done for the community. This is really sad.

[@bigdatapimp]

I have two questions, how many protests have there been? And how many did Rotor Riot alone say there would be? Also to blunty. More than one lawsuit is exactly what should have happened. That is exactly what the 2a community does and that is exactly why they get wins. One judges or panel says no, and three others say yes. So to say all other law suits would have lost is completely defeatist and goes exactly to my point. Everyone effectively gave up after the first protest. Everyone gave up after the first law suit. There has been no real movement that suggests otherwise. I don't mean to sound unappreciative to people like Dave, who are earnestly trying to do something, I am greatly annoyed by the rest of us for waiting for him to get it done. That is the problem. 16:40 my point exactly. Its NOT a hopeless battle. Its only hopeless because of that attitude. And please get off "winning" with network RID we all know that was not us, AND it is still coming.

[@SoloRenegade]

drone operators have jobs

[@QuadsMods]

The title of this video should be changed to RANT about people discussing RemoteID. You are not RANTING about what REMOTEID really is. Maybe if you discussed or RANTED about how it is a overpriced, data collecting, personal information exposing way to force a agenda which should only be imposed on high class commercial flying. Not little Timmy playing with a TOY!

[@100Speedwobbles]

Thoe video should be called "FPVKnowitall Defeatist Rant and Xjet Takedown."

[@NoOneFPV]

RID is not only flawed because it literally puts a giant target on your back and opening the pilot AND quad up to physical attack, robbery and murder, it's also just straight-up unconstitutional for the following reasons: 1st Amendment: RID forces the average quad pilot to ask permission to exercise their right to take aerial photographs and video and to express ourselves via those photographs and videos. We have the right to do this activity anonymously without government consent or approval. Photography is not a crime. 4th Amendment: The right against unreasonable searches and seizures. Remote ID is an unreasonable search of our instant location and activity to be reported to the government without warrant BY OURSELVES, which leads to the next point. 5th Amendment: The right against self-incrimination. Remote ID can (AND ABSOLUTELY WILL) be used against us as testimony against ourselves depending on when, where or how we fly. I will not provide this information to the government. 6th Amendment: Due process. This shifts the burden of proof of wrongdoing from the government to a proof of innocence by the pilot. We've already seen what happens when the government shifts the burden of proof from themselves to us via "Civil Asset Forfeiture". Instead of the government having to prove something was done illegally, they force us to prove we didn't. This cannot be allowed to continue and I will not accept this shift of burden onto MY back. 9th Amendment: Outright states that not all of our rights and liberties are enumerated. Essentially, we have the right to do whatever we wish as long as we don't infringe upon someone ELSES rights. Without demonstrable CAUSE, our liberties are protected and innumerable unless and until we ACQUIESCE to them being taken. I do not acquiesce. 14th Amendment: Equal Protection under the law. A clear case of discriminatory preferential policy aimed at giving OUR air space to big businesses like Amazon and Google without regard for OUR RIGHT to make use of said air space. We're not the ones flying 10,000 feet up or higher, we typically fly close to the ground. Remember, the airspace above still belongs to WE THE PEOPLE. THEY are simply delegated the authority to regulate commercial traffic (I'm sorry, but the individual quad pilot making some pocket change from their hobby by posting on KZbin is NOT 'commercial' in my eyes, regardless of how they'd like to define it.) Remote ID is an excessive regulatory action and clearly aimed to surveil our activities without warrant or cause, which will result in the death of the hobby from a personal and individual standpoint. And finally, the Declaration of Independence: The absolute and unalienable right to the pursuit of life, liberty and happiness without government permission, intrusion or intervention. The US Government was meant to be LIMITED in scope and nature and it is REQUIRED that we be adequately represented and given a voice. Does it seem to be "limited" in any way to you? Do ANY of you feel represented? Listened to? How about a voice, do you feel heard? How about simply ACKNOWLEDGED? I certainly don't on any of these points. This government is NOT *OUR* government. It's THEIRS. To truly be an American is to challenge and to deny authority where it not only doesn't exist, but CANNOT exist. Now is that time. The FAA doesn't have the authority to override our Constitutional rights any more than Congress does. A fight is coming, and they're the ones begging for it. How will we answer? I know how I will answer. I will not comply.

[@gqp4800]

Well said

[@jeromerobinson7064]

I agree 100% with this, we are the people and the government the law are regulated by the people for example when you go to vote they put laws on the ballot to get it approved or denied, just remember the people has the power, it not the faa and congress because they all work for us because without us it wouldn't be them.

[@SoloRenegade]

need to repost this everywhere

[@NoOneFPV]

@@SoloRenegade I have been. ;) Though I do need to refine it a little more.

[@brisketbaron]

We need to start calling our representatives. Just like we did with the stupid pistol brace thing. Don’t send a email. Nobody reads emails. I known the pistol brace thing will be rectified on the 29th. In court. Hopefully… yeah I know. Nobody’s going to do that.

[@MysteryD]

BUT PISTOL BRACES MAKE BULLETS GO FASTER AND MAKES THEM WAY MORE DEADLY

[@gqp4800]

Too many guns in Merca

[@SkeezyFPV]

@@gqp4800too many bad people in America not too many guns.

[@Klobberkrew]

You nailed it there, no matter what was said by anyone in the FAA or congress, the reason for the remote ID is their fear of what is happening in Russia and Ukraine. They are worried that dissent in this country could lead to something like that. And just like gun laws, they cheer for it, but it never actually helps with the issue that they are concerned with

[@sollithTech]

Where does non-compliance lead? Noncompliance doesn't mean non-discussion. It can be a real part of a real solution. Ghandi practiced non-compliance and changed not only an entire country, but affected the world. There are a lot of people who's only means of push back will be to not comply and these messages to not comply just allow them recognize there is something they can do without being some big time youtuber getting some headline or additional views. Also, stating "The die is cast and we sort of have to figure out how to live under that..." is exactly what they mean when describing a "defestist" attitude by JB and others. Basically, JB's message here is that of disillusion. It's the same sort of effect that Cambridge Analytica used in their scandal to affect the outcomes of votes in Brazil or whatever; have a significant number just toss up their hands and say "well, it is what it is" and then give up, so that a few who profit off it get their way. At least telling people they can choose to not comply is providing something remotely constructive that many can do, because again, not everyone has the reach of a big youtuber, the political lobbying connections and funding, or other resources to do more. We can only control how we choose to act and react.

[@SoloRenegade]

noncompliance does work

[@TheCivildecay]

As someone that has its eggs in both baskets (I'm a camera drone and FPV pilot in my spare time, and I'm alo working for a goverment agency that's dying to finally be able to use our drones in restricted airspaces (and being able to fly them autonomously) for flora and fauna inspections, safety inspections, land measurement ,and being able to carry payloads to make water samples in inaccesible ponds and lakes) It's quite a battle of interests. For example drones being able to detect other drones so they can adjust their path to the next waypoint to avoid midair collisions, or drones being aware of manned aircrafs and adjust accordingly will open a ton of options for autonomous flights (beyond LOS) and will (potentionally) loosen the rules on fllying in a restricted airspace. On the other hand those techniques aren't made for our 3 or 5 inch quads, and FPV pilots don't fly 300 meters up in the sky and 4 kilometer range from the pilot, so all these safety system and rules should not be forced upon this hobby

[@bugsy742]

Wow mate your job sounds amazing, I’m genuinely interested, I hope it all works out well for people like you especially 👍🤝

[@joshcooper130]

Xjet is right. He's been right.

[@Daniel_Callie]

You are wrong about Bruce’s point.

[@y_i_fly6256]

FPV and drone flying is an art. Art is freedom of expression and what the FAA’s initially going against article 10. We fly safely and responsibly enough already and yet more gets piled on. We must fight back.

[@Shauny_D]

can you link to article 10?

[@gqp4800]

State board certified master in my old profession, retired 8 years ago. Last convention of board of my profession I sat with 5 state board members and told them they better worry more about their employees alcohol use, not cannabis use. I have smoked cannabis 53 years.66 now. I am with botgrinder and Mr. Bruce Simpson every time thank you, thank you very much.😊also rc nutcase 25 years. Raced on-road foams carpet tenth scale cars 10 years with son. String cox motor powered at 17 plane.quit alcohol @38, after 5 days in intensive care. Tobacco @ 37

[@fearlessflyersfpv420]

smoked for 54.5 years here, 55 years old ;)

[@RickJamesFPV]

I'm not happy about the apps that are already in use for being able to TRACK a drone. I am not going to be tracked by where my Quad is.

[@OogaBOOGAHHH]

I tried the one that a lot of people talk about with my mini 3 pro (w rid) and it didn’t work?😂 I only flew it 20 ft away but it said 0 drones in your area? Maybe it’s not updated all the way?

[@parqld]

The problem with non compliance is it gives authorities the perfect opportunity to tag those who have taken that position as “Bad actors “, and say …”see we told you so” and that’s why we need RID. Which of course is crap. Public servants will always twist the argument. I personally think Bruce Simpson is one of the best advocates the hobby has. He is a smart guy with a big heart. JB even though he is NZ arguing the case , he is doing it to help the hobby globally. This crazy legislation is coming to both Australia and NZ , and is the thin edge of the wedge. What next… cars ? Our rights are being eroded. We must stick together. ✊

[@ericapelz260]

I think the driving motivation was the potential for weaponized drone combined with idiots who flew through football games and buzzed manned aircraft.

[@MysteryD]

Solution: Keep a sub-250g quad on you at all times. THAT was the one you were flying, you swear.

[@OogaBOOGAHHH]

Funny thing is if you can spot them and land before they get to you, that could actually work right?😂😂😂 can’t prove it unless they got a GOOD video of it

[@100Speedwobbles]

You can quarantee the 250g exception will be revoked as soon as they can.

[@ugpfpv361]

I think that the FAA win in the rdq case just gave them the encouragement to add on (refine) the remote-id law to make it even worse as they just revealed recently, now they feel they can do anything... Sadly they've got part 107 pilots over a barrel, so it's up to the hobbyist.

[@AGZFPV]

One thing non compliance would do is put the companies making the RID modules out of business by us not buying them and making the equipment unavailable. Therefore how do you comply when there is no available option to comply. Just saying!

[@100Speedwobbles]

The point about Xjets video was give up on the bureaucrats, the key is the Main Stream Media.

[@bernardhfox]

Ill STEP UP To be the first to be prosecuted for OUR RIGHTS as a COMMON SENSE CITIZEN.

[@Shauny_D]

I agree with what you're saying at 2:20. FAA doesn't care compliance or not that isn't going to change anything. They either enforce it or not I don't think it matters. Money will force change and FPV is too small a fish to make any changes. I submitted a couple formal questions through the faa portal and got responses. Showing i'm loose $20,000 in business a year with RID and asking about self built part 107 and sponsored whoop flights. Their response was "it shouldn't cost you money, RID will be included in all drones going forward." And "yes a sponsored 20gram whoop flight in your garage with the door open is commercial and requires remote id. (because of a potential for flyaway)

[@BobSeif-s1f]

It is like a GPS ankle bracelet that criminals are required to wear - and is not a safety of flight item just an excuse to grab airspace for commercial interests.

[@Simey2wheels]

Well said JB, although inciting Bruce's legions will not do you well! Many people have issues with him but the loonies override everything much akin to someone orange in your homeland!

[@bugsy742]

Mate you run your mouth like a twitter user! 🤢 🔔 end

[@BabaYagaFPV]

The real problem is that 99% of Americans are not flying quads and planes. The vast majority of people in fact do not like drones or the people who fly them. So us not complying will only result in us getting fined out of the hobby with the public cheering.

[@OogaBOOGAHHH]

And that 99% of people are so UNINFORMED about fpv. So unfortunately your 100% correct

[@skywalkerfpv5073]

Most if not everyone I've met or been approached by while out flying, thought it was the coolest thing they'd seen. They wanted to know what is was and where/how to get in. Sure, I've had a handful of ignorant cat lady types who seem to hate everything, but their cats😢, and I've been ask to not fly like once or twice by an officer. But generally most people don't care or actually know what I'm doing. Last year at a park I go to often, the park security thought I was playing some kind of new VR games in the empty parking lot for some reason. Like some some geo- Pokémon fight 😂. I flew there last week, a patrol & k9unit were parked neither gave me a second look. 👮‍♂️ I've actually had way more positive or genuine interest interaction in FPV, than negative. I would say the the ignorant, miserable or misinformed are just being louder, which, is usually the case.

[@OogaBOOGAHHH]

@@skywalkerfpv5073 no I don’t doubt you at all, I’ve only ever had good interactions too, you’ve been flying for much longer than me, the problem isn’t the good/bad ratio, the problem is RID and it only takes ONE bad interaction to get screwed over when rid is here. That’s my thought process

[@skywalkerfpv5073]

@@OogaBOOGAHHH I've decided to take a break from flying for a while, but I didn't and don't plan on installing rid on any quad I fly recreationally in the future, for sure not a race or tinywhoop quad. There's barely enough space sometime to fit the necessary stuff to fly safely, let alone Uarts and BECs etc. RID is a no go for me, for where, how and what I fly. Like most hobbyist it would actually make it less safe in more than a couple ways that I can think of off the top of my head. I've also had a few bad run-ins, had some guys in a car keep parking closer to me evrytime I was flying, long story...but they were scoping me out. Had someone try to steal my fpv bag out of my car when I went to fetch a quad at the park in broad day.

[@Shauny_D]

I've been suggesting a legal defense fund like a community based insurance plan for non compliance.

[@msaunders300]

I cant find your comment anywhere on botgrinders video did you delete it?

[@JoshuaBardwell]

No I didn't.

[@mikediggsv2]

How will you make Money when Nobody can fly What will you Talk About ???

[@Krashcan]

Everyone is saying they will not comply, as I will not either, my question is who is going to enforce it anyways, this is so stupid, no way will i ever do this, i never even registered any of them, its no one business if i am flying a toy or not. F THE GOVERNMENT. Sorry for the bad capital letter but that's how I feel about the entire situation and many others currently and historically going on with the usa corporation......

[@umop3plsdn]

i agree somewhat but they WILL make an example of somebody.. Just like when they busted that single mother and charged her 2 million dollars for downloading a handful of mp3s back in the day LOL

[@OogaBOOGAHHH]

My only fear is they see it as free money from fines and tickets 😭

[@KarlCranny]

Need to get FAA to increase the 249 gram exception to 999 grams. Non-compliance might simply be continuing to fly and make real estate videos and running your little business because not everyone can simply go out and buy a new drone.

[@ugpfpv361]

My take on the "non-compliance" of registration... The FAA looked at it, as Joshua said, it was just 30% because pilots didn't know they were supposed to, so they didn't look at it as "non-compliance" but just ignorance.

[@TimsDrones]

We need our own organization, which decides if our flights meet our safety criteria, and then provides insurance to cover any FAA fines incurred while flying and meeting our safety criteria, but not meeting the FAA’s more onerous regs, such as RID while racing. Also criminalizing FPV and/or BVLOS under trees anywhere or in your own yard. No regs at all applying to drones under 250g. Add yer fave to this list.

[@gqp4800]

Amen brother

[@Shauny_D]

24:33 hahaha!! yes please! I'll volunteer my kids for this role!

[@knarftrakiul3881]

If you live in a state like west Virginia you won't have to worry about local cops worring about this shit lol

[@Drag0ny]

To add to the distinction between GPS and non-GPS. The exception here in europe is, among other things, for non-autonomous flight modes on self built aircraft. That applies to all aircraft like planes, helicopters and of course quad copters. Of course you could argue if Remote ID is BS regardless, but imo the distinction between autonomous and non-autonomous makes sense. At least here in europe many of the laws are targeted at allowing space for innovation for things like drone delivery and making exceptions for hobby aircraft piloted by humans makes total sense to me.

[@speedy0_FPV]

👀

[@Drag0ny]

@@speedy0_FPV 👀

[@marshallsweatherhiking1820]

This is how it should be. Remote ID requirement makes sense for long range flights that go beyond line of sight.

[@LehtusBphree2flyFPV]

Many people drive without insurance and get away with it at long as their careful same with RID

[@ghettorecording2925]

oldguyFPV says; There is no constitutional authority for the establishment of the FAA. The FAA is clearly in violation of 10th Amendment of the US Constitution and mirrors the 6th plank of the Communist Manifesto. The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) is an unconstitutional governmental body that unlawfully exercises pretended powers not authorized by the US Constitution to regulate all aspects of civil aviation in the United States as well as its surrounding international waters. The FAA, as it pertains to a United States citizen, violates the entire Bill of Rights, in that it denies due process of law to a private citizen who owns and flies a drone. No one is bound to obey an unconstitutional law! "All laws which are repugnant to the Constitution are null and void." Marbury vs. Madison, 5 US (2 Cranch) 137, 174, 176, (1803) "When rights secured by the Constitution are involved, there can be no rule making or legislation which would abrogate them." Miranda vs. Arizona, 384 US 436 p. 491. "An unconstitutional act is not law; it confers no rights; it imposes no duties; affords no protection; it creates no office; it is in legal contemplation, as inoperative as though it had never been passed." Norton vs. Shelby County 118 US 425 p. 442 The FAA gets its unconstitutional authority from the United Nations. The UN has no jurisdiction over anything, especially the United States! The UN treaty does not supersede the US Constitution! No US Citizen is bound to its "pretended" legislation!!! The Constitution of the United States does not grant Congress any authority to place its law making powers in the hands of any other branch of government, nor does it permit Congress to delegate that power to a governing body that has been created pursuant to the treaty clause of Article VI of the United States Constitution. "There is nothing in this language which intimates that treaties and laws enacted pursuant to them do not have to comply with the provisions of the Constitution. Nor is there anything in the debates which accompanied the drafting and ratification of the Constitution which even suggest such a result. . . . It would be manifestly contrary to the objections of those who created the Constitution, as well as those who were responsible for the Bill of Rights - let alone alien to our entire constitutional history and tradition - to construe Article VI as permitting the United State to exercise power under an international agreement (United Nations Charter) without observing constitutional prohibitions. In effect such construction would permit amendment of that document in a manner not sanctioned by Article V. The prohibitions of the Constitution were designed to apply to all branches of the National Government and they cannot be nullified by the Executive or by the Executive and Senate combined. Reid vs. Covert, 354 US 1, 1 L ed 2d 1148, 77 S Ct 1222. On the other hand, unlike citizens, corporations can be standardized and regulated by the government. One, because the government is their creator and two, they effect a public interest. Citizens are protected by the Bill of Rights and are free to explore their hobby, free from any governmental interference. As long as a person does not violate anyone's life, liberty or property while engaged in the enjoyment of their hobby, government is forbidden from interfering with that private activity. You are not going to stop the FAA until you start looking at this issue from a constitutional due process standpoint. One example, and there are many more, is Remote ID. Remote ID violates the 5th Amendment of the Bill of Rights, in that it requires a private citizen to witness against themselves by collecting and submitting evidence to government that can and will be used against them in any criminal prosecution. The government cannot pass a law that places a citizen in a position that would force that citizen to wave a constitutionally protected right, the right to witness against themselves, in order to exercise the constitutional right to use the public airways. "We find it intolerable that one constitutional right should have to be surrendered in order to assert another." Simmons vs US, 390 US 389. The airways are a public easement. We all have a constitutionally protected right to use them. The airways belong to all of us. As long as a private citizen flies their property (drone) in a manner that does violate the life, liberty or property of another, that person does not have to get governments permission to do so. In the event that a person flying a drone does violate the rights of another person, we have the "Bill of Rights" and due process of law to settle the issue.

[@MadDragon75]

My FAA REC licence Is in a text file on my transmitter and it's also in my email if I had to revert to it. Technically it's also supposed to be on every quadcopter I own , and I used to write that number on my props because without a prop... is not flying . But I quit doing that because some of my old quadcopters got handed off to other people and now they have that number. So, I quit doing that. They say to put the number on your quad, I say don't do it just keep it with you. That should be proof enough if you are a licensed quadcopter pilot. It's not like there's gonna be somebody else walking around with a transmitter and goggles when a quadcopter goes through somebody's window or something.

[@JR-fs1xt]

It comes down to the fact that the average person is not trust worthy. Any one of us could throw up a 7 in analog high enough to crash into commercial aircraft pretty easily. It’s basically an honor system right now without remote ID.

[@umop3plsdn]

i dont think they understand that a majority of our quads don't even have GPS to begin with lol

[@SAFEZONEFPV]

So now because of RID influencers are more concerned about who is right and who is wrong. I feel that what Botgrinder meant was as a community, we should have or should create a group together to represent us, much like the NRA. I feel that we haven't lost anything yet because now as a community, we can develop such a group and then begin to fight back.

[@rc-fannl7364]

Yeah, if this turns into a fight about some feeling done wrong by "you let it happen" remarks, the FPV community will stay divided and fall even further than we already have.

[@TavoFourSeven]

Wow so if a woman gets SA because someone knew where she was flying all by herself, the governments just like ahh come back when it does happen.

[@bulufish8208]

Don't comply there will be consequences. Comply who knows probably left alone . We all supposedly grown men make your own choices and live with it.

[@antoineozaneaux6881]

a remote betaflight session on my helpless quads . is what the doctor ordered and a lot of cash for it . quitting in 2 weeks if i cant get my machines running for the summer i really need help . .

[@Pruflaas]

I think lawsuites will follow when someone gets robbed because they could see where you were.

[@Sircrashalot1993]

You are a very well educated man! Thank you for your great information !

[@paulchamberlain7942]

Hey Josh, I remember you promoting the idea of constructive dialog with FCC as opposed to non-compliance and moaning etc. I'm going to assume the FCC set the drone weight limit before RID restrictions apply because of perceived harm to property and people of the device dropping from the sky in a worst case scenario. Well the worst case with a drone is the full weight dropping with little wind resistance, and the weight concentrated into a relatively small area. With a plane however, this concentration of the weight in such a small area simply could not happen. There would be much more wind resistance, and the airframes themselves are much less rigid and strong, and so would dissipate a much higher level of energy from an impact than a drone would. On this basis perhaps the weight limit for RC planes could be raised to 500g or even 1kg before restrictions apply? Am not saying I agree with the 250g limit, its just that as you said, that's kind of a done deal now, and it might better serve to try and work with this unavoidably imposed authority than to just idealistically and irrationally oppose it. I'm just a beginner watching your videos so I may be incorrect in any aspect of this post, but in the spirit of trying to help save this hobby, anything seems worth a try at this point. I'm binge watching your videos to learn enough about drones and RC to buy the right equipment before legal hammer comes down further due to, well you know, no need to repeat here. From this perspective, it seems like a 'positive' aspect of RID is the hardware components themselves seem to be have been left alone? If this is the case then rushing to buy hardware before deadlines kick in might be unnecessary.

[@rc-fannl7364]

Non-compliance isn't the solution, but considering the twisted view the FAA clearly has on the hobby, and them being seemingly unwilling to listen to any other points of view, how can we make them realize this remote id is a government overreach? People can fly an ultralight without any tracking devices, but if you fly a tiny whoop under part 107, you need gps and remote id fitted.

[@ChrisGripeos]

I'm 8 minutes into the video, atm, and I have to say I never got the same meening from xjet's video that JB got. I respect what JB is saying, but I'm confused by his understanding of xjet's video..

[@bernardhfox]

The solution is simple. DO NOT COMPLY, BE A SOLDIER, STAND UP ,GET OFF YT AND TIKTOK AND FIGHT BY NOT COMPLYING. Who's with me?

[@EarthWalkerOne]

it's never to early to not comply.

[@johnstone5927]

Thank you and Bruce from Xjet for making these videos. Let’s give this subject, some traction. Like and comment on remote ID videos.

[@Carboneye7]

It will take much more than a few comments sir it will take decisive action by each and every one of us in the hobby by not complying with these draconian regulations

[@robertnordeck9547]

I just don't / won't get it!! Oh, I might be able to afford RID on one of my hundred RC airplanes; but then I will have to carry for self protection 🤐

[@jimsdroneing]

you make perfect sense Joshua luv ur rant

[@ricknoah9184]

One thing about this law that really bothers me is that the term "commercial" drone use has not (to the best of my knowledge) been clarified well enough. Put it this way: I fly a 200g whoop around my house on FPV. I post the FPV video on YT. I make a whopping $50. Am I now a commercial drone operation, by FAA law ???? EDIT ADDED-- My concern leads to a Judge being able to uphold a law that a publicly available FPV video can be used as evidence for noncompliance with FAA rules. THAT is a real possibility, I think.

[@paulr3556]

Also xjet was there on the pass calling out the enemy before the famous 300 even got there. Haha

[@grzbiet]

I'm afraid to jinx it but how do we know that remote ID is not comming to out cars next? "it's like a digital licence plate" "drivers need to be responsible for their actions" "we need remote ID so the self-driving cars can deliver the goods to people" "look, every drone has the remote ID and it's okay, nobody protested that. now it's time for remote ID for cars" "and bicycles" "and pedestrians" "why is your phone turned off? don't you know that starting september 2026 you need remote ID when you step outside?"

[@oscillationandy6923]

Its all a smoke show, sleight of hand and the Kansas city shuffle rolled into one. Mainly just a way to eventually place blame on drone pilots for all the UAP's cruising around.... lol Somebody call Bobby Kennedy Jr and get us some help!

[@PaulieShortcuts]

@JoshuaBardwellLivestream we should start a fund for R&D on what we can put and test remote ID on. Make it as ridiculous as you can and post a video. A potato that carries a current that gets thrown on a roof of a private building and the owners need to spend on assets to retrieve your private property? Long range one-ways into the abyss? Experimental 35mm with a big ass RID that breaks your go pro mounted on top of it all?

[@marcelpost4052]

08:45 except... there are no buckets.

[@showdownz]

IMO after hearing your opinion, I really think you should have just abstained from this topic while politely dodging. Your voice is one of, if not the largest in this community and taken as a whole this video's input is basically "this won't work/give up", with out pushing forward a better idea. You said who's going have control of the legal fund? Bruce... Botgrinder? I would guess you make more money off this community than either of them, possibly both combined. What about you? Second, you picked at Bruce saying what "Wins" has he gotten for all the fights he has gotten in regarding him flying. You have failed to recognize that in some cases you don't get a "win" that is a ribbon, sometimes the "win" is a general change in the atmosphere surrounding an issue which later will result in future interactions or even legislation going better. Europe adopted the 250gram limit but you but they actually have slightly better rules. I believe under 250 is actually no rules, unlike America where getting your 107 drags the under 250grams back into things. I used to think the group called "auditors" who go around and challenge the rules in front of police were trouble makers, but eventually I realized that through their actions they collectively were having an effect. The result being if you run into a police officer they are more likely to know your rights and overstep less. Bruce and Bot are both doing the hard thing. I was really hoping when I started this video you were going to do the hard thing too. I was disappointed. Be better Bardwell. Or at the very least don't detract from a movement trying to take ground, even if you doubt much if any ground will be taken.

[@cch201992]

Exactly disappointed

[@MadDragon75]

I could be wrong, but I don't believe he was serious about going along with that.. It sounded more like he was hypothetically going along with it to see where it goes from there if people did do what they suggested. A person's income Is irrelevant at this point because it would have be a collective fund, like a FPV Hobby Community Tax or it wouldn't work seriously. This just shows how far people will go to avoid something as asinine as RID.

[@33rdframe]

All they know how to do is kick other people's sand castle down. This is one of the biggest problems in fpv. Josh still hasn't responded to my Mjolnir video while still claiming no one has tested it and throwing shade. This video is a Godsend to be honest. Because people can finally see what a spineless coward these "Top influencers" really are

[@breakalegfpv9532]

push back or get run over!

[@Jonno-5]

no to RID

[@Imurdate]

i registered 1 drone, my acrobrat that comes to 280g >.> missed it by 30g lol but i did register 1 drone cause i was following "rules.. hard pass on any other drone being registered

[@knarftrakiul3881]

There will always be hackers and someone to find a way around it

[@josefdahari]

One of these days youll actually say my name right 🤣

[@jeffswope1511]

I put RID on my car. You can never be too safe.

[@paulr3556]

Bruce has years of experience with local councils for example. The pen pushers have no idea, and worse still will not even listen to common sense. The system protects itself always. If the courts weren't so corrupt, maybe we had a chance in them.

[@Simey2wheels]

Local councils are not the FAA nor are they NZ's CAA! If you see where Bruce is in the world and the state of the local council and all his dramas then you'll have a different view! When someone creates their own problems, then makes videos on it, you are only seeing his side!

[@SkeezyFPV]

Many good points made here, JB and Blunty. With all due respect to Bruce, I don’t think he understands US law, our constitution, or the fact that we live in a nation with hundreds of millions of people, a very porous border, and very different security concerns than New Zealand. You’re correct that victim blaming is wrong and that politicians and DHS have been watching this since the beginning of the Syrian Civil War, and Daesh using them against anti isis fighters in Mosul Iraq in 2014-2015, while civilians have just caught on over the past 16 months. Yes, it’s getting harder to fly fpv, particularly 5” and bigger. It’s not gonna go away. I expect background checks similar to with firearms somewhere down the road for certain UAS components, range limitations, etc. RID is just the beginning unfortunately imo. They will hone in on their security concerns eventually because that’s 100% what this is about; the average person having access to over the horizon weapon capabilities and in some cases this is valid. What happens the first time an fpv quad is used in a terrorist attack? We lose everything. What they are not seeing is that decent Americans don’t have access to military grade explosives and this is all a big knee jerk reaction that will do nothing to make anyone any safer, just like the Patriot Act. Prove me wrong. 🤷‍♂️

[@billmcdonald4335]

Individual, sub-rosa, non-compliance = volunteering to be made an example of for authorities. Organized, open, group non-compliance = movement. Time to decide, innit?

[@JoshuaBardwell]

Group non compliance does not pressure the government to change the rule, unless is makes the injustice of the rule visible to enough people who also agree that it is unjust, that a critical mass of people pressure the government to change the rule. This is unlikely to happen for FPV. 1) mere non compliance does not create visibility. 2) our hobby is very small and not that interesting to most people, so getting enough people to notice us is difficult. 3) if we did manage to get wide visibility, a lot of people think we're bad and think that RemoteID is reasonable, so they will not see injustice being performed, and it will not result in pressure to change the rule. A successful activist movement must address these things. The vast majority of people are going to leave a youtube comment and that's where their "activism" will stop.

[@billmcdonald4335]

@@JoshuaBardwell Without getting the message out there's no point. There's no practical way to oppose a stupid law without getting pushback from "a lot of people who think we're bad." I agree that an antagonistic approach is the least efficient means; diplomacy with a view to the bigger picture is the best option. Yet I still think organized non-compliance has to play some kind of a part going forward. I wanna make salt when I wanna make salt. It's like that.

[@Halfrightfox]

Mass non-compliance is guaranteed. Change is not.

[@yodaiam1000]

As you alluded to, I think the path forward w/ making non-compliance a tool to fight the rules is legal action once someone is fined. It seems to me to be a 4th amendment violation. But then again, if the courts don't see civil forfeiture as a fourth amendment violation, then what chance do drone hobbyist have? Row V. Wade was clearly a fourth amendment protection but it was overturned. Gay and even technically interracial marriage could be at risk with the current SCOTUS since these are protections made under very similar argument. Another option is to sue the FAA once someone who was complying is injured due to their disclosed location. The FAA clearly made a rule that puts the pilot as risk. People should be threatening the FAA with law suits if they are ever injured, mugged, murdered, or robbed.

[@ForSure871]

I don’t know if the registration, or lack of, would have made a difference but 30% is a way to high number to achieve anything. It lets the other 70% look like as**oles. To make an impact there must be a zero before the comma.

[@alanmcampbell]

Why start on Bruce he is on the front line fighting for our hobby. I don't see you doing much to fight against it, you've just been looking after your pocket.

[@100Speedwobbles]

It's like crabs in a bucket.

[@JoshuaBardwell]

Search my channel for "RemoteID" if you need to see what I've done. For fuck's sake, I made a film about FPV and how RemoteID threatens it, and that film is on Amazon Prime righ tnow. But tell me more about how I'm "looking after my pocket."

[@wtb567]

JB I am a big fan of your channel, but I really disliked this video and how you dissed xjet who is just trying to help.

[@remixatl]

I find it comical, that we are still waffling on the "fairness" of RID......YET.....Its totally "normal" to see tesla self driving cars on the road.

[@johnhunter3011]

Never comply to tyrants!

[@wolfganghorn7492]

xjet sent me here