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Joshua Fluke

Joshua Fluke

Күн бұрын

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@JoshuaFluke1
@JoshuaFluke1 4 жыл бұрын
Be a boss, not a boomer - grindreel.academy/p/entrepreneurship
@lebusiness2847
@lebusiness2847 4 жыл бұрын
Josh I'd really like to know where you'll be in 10 years.
@JoshuaFluke1
@JoshuaFluke1 4 жыл бұрын
You sound personally offended. Boomer is a mindset not an age. You're right though. Dumb people of all ages exist!
@neptunemike
@neptunemike 4 жыл бұрын
your site needs some mobile responsive adjustments, it shouldn’t be horizontally scrolling overflows, just fyi
@enersha
@enersha 4 жыл бұрын
i was fired by my boomer-ass boss and my next job offer turned out to be a promotion. went from 21.5k euro salary doing fullstack, testing and QA to 28k euros doing just QA testing. the first company had no idea that I was doing 2-3 persons jobs for the lowest industry standard pay, oh well.
@bcuz8998
@bcuz8998 4 жыл бұрын
@TanukiTensai boomer
@IDontKnowMuchAtAll
@IDontKnowMuchAtAll 3 жыл бұрын
I have a boomer boss. These situations are exactly why millennials don't have loyalty to companies. Too many old people running the show.
@TheChuckfuc
@TheChuckfuc 2 жыл бұрын
Boomers are also terrible at passing on the torch. They complain about younger people not stepping into leadership roles, but never actually give young people leadership roles. Or if they do. It's all responsibility and no reward.
@Kjf2691
@Kjf2691 Жыл бұрын
And they don’t want to give up their power.
@darkhighwayman1757
@darkhighwayman1757 Жыл бұрын
Im GenX and they said one day we would inherit those jobs...still waiting
@JustMe99999
@JustMe99999 Жыл бұрын
Nice ageism.
@tmpterrostone8337
@tmpterrostone8337 Жыл бұрын
It helps to NOT have shit HR and shitty 3rd party payroll (esp when its out of country) And people value cost cutting more Than Making more value
@codyhamilton7682
@codyhamilton7682 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a senior software engineer... The best raises you get are when you change jobs 🤷‍♂️
@SomeAndrian
@SomeAndrian 3 жыл бұрын
Hear ye, hear ye Same here. The last couple of bosses were apologetic to me for not getting me a better raise; one time I was told that 7% raise is above the company policy of max 3% But it does not compare to 10 + % raise you get when leaving. I'm at a point where I make enough for the family to be well off, and not paid enough to be relaxed at the job rather than stressed out.
@NeganLucilleForever
@NeganLucilleForever 3 жыл бұрын
or when you tell your boss you're quitting and if you're good they will give you more leeway in negotiating a better salary (by asking what will it take for you to stay). I did that once! It worked!
@SomeAndrian
@SomeAndrian 3 жыл бұрын
@@NeganLucilleForever never accept counter offers, they will use you into the ground until finding a replacement then they will get rid of you and now you have to look for a job instead of switching jobs
@NeganLucilleForever
@NeganLucilleForever 3 жыл бұрын
@@SomeAndrian They can get rid of you at any time. Counter offers are ok, if you're really good. Again if you know you haven't been pulling your weight or if you're a new hire, it will probably backfire (they will call your bluff and you will lose your job).
@CH-lg3st
@CH-lg3st 3 жыл бұрын
This is why people switch jobs every 2 to 3 years for the first 10ish years
@theDMLair
@theDMLair 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a scrum master. It's true, we do mostly nothing...except sit around figuring out what to do with our time. Meetings are usually a great answer because "having conversations" makes it look you're doing something.
@ivoivic2448
@ivoivic2448 2 жыл бұрын
ah yes, the forced "agile". I loved those meetings. my team lead had a talk with me about sleeping on those meetings tho. shame, I was so refreshed for the rest of the day too.
@kristianjensen5877
@kristianjensen5877 2 жыл бұрын
Currently working as a software person, I know perfectly well how useless a scrum master can be - so how would one go about becoming one? Doing nothing most of the time at a management pay grade sounds like a pretty sweet deal. 😬
@ODST626
@ODST626 Жыл бұрын
Weird. All the scrum masters i worked for were in the trenches with the rest of us. Delegating tasks, breaking up fights, straightening out the difficult developers. They were very busy and working lots of unpaid overtime (cuz salary). Sounds like I got the rare ones.
@Swanzo
@Swanzo 3 жыл бұрын
I've been a developer for a long time and something that I've learned is that management constantly tries to justify their existence. Often times their only reason for doing something is to make it look like they are doing something. I've also been a manager and those above me would get on my case for NOT messing with my good workers. I'm like hey they are top performers and doing a good job I want to leave them alone. Sometimes the manager doesn't even want to mess with the employees but they have someone above leaning on them to do so. Also forget about raises, that went away when Sox was passed into law (Sarbanes Oxley). You either move into a new job and negotiate salary on the new job or move to a new company entirely. Generally speaking you shouldn't stay at the same company more than 3 years if you want high pay.
@Whodjathink
@Whodjathink 3 жыл бұрын
Call me a boomer, but how did Sarbanes Oxley affect getting raises? This sounds like something my business classes should've taught me
@lifotheparty6195
@lifotheparty6195 2 жыл бұрын
Being left the hell alone is one of my top 5 motivators for being a good performer. When I start a new gig. I like to establish a rapport and reputation for being a solid worker so that as I get settled in, I can do my work in peace.
@lifotheparty6195
@lifotheparty6195 2 жыл бұрын
@@Whodjathink equity and performance related compensation came under higher scrutiny due to management manipulation in the C-Suite of officers. Dodd-Frank and SOX didn’t exactly limit it but it did make it a point of high focus for auditors (which is my field). Inflated financials from account manipulation is a classic move from less-than savory managers as their compensation was more often directly based on the financial performance.
@Whodjathink
@Whodjathink 2 жыл бұрын
@@lifotheparty6195 but wait, that'd be the case for the CEOs and other top level managers but I'm having a hard time seeing how it trickles down. Unless it's because they know the numbers are fake that they can't actually give someone a raise without lowering projected profits is what you mean
@Whodjathink
@Whodjathink 2 жыл бұрын
@LTNetjak I don't know of many companies that have that many workers but yeah, you're not wrong. There's also the fact that most Top level execs don't really get the million dollar salaries people think they do, but stock options and shares which get counted as their income. Now that second paragraph, now I get it a bit better. Though from the initial comment it seems like it doesn't affect raises per se but affects how they're written on the accounts.
@axMf3qTI
@axMf3qTI 4 жыл бұрын
I have a friend who had a company with interns only. So he had this little office with him and a bunch interns sitting around one big table and nobody was allowed to wear headphones.
@cloud5887
@cloud5887 4 жыл бұрын
your friend is an idiot
@zakuma22
@zakuma22 4 жыл бұрын
I am glad he 'had' a company.
@alexg8637
@alexg8637 4 жыл бұрын
He created panopticum in his office.)))
@axMf3qTI
@axMf3qTI 4 жыл бұрын
@@cloud5887 Well yeah.… the odd thing is that he can't work under a boss. That's the main driver he started his own company. At the same time he's probably much worse than any boss he worked under.
@chubsley2000
@chubsley2000 4 жыл бұрын
it'd be cool if one day he started passing out character sheets and opened up Dungeons & Dragons: 3rd Edition
@SpacePumpking
@SpacePumpking 4 жыл бұрын
7:56 I went through this too, when we moved to working from home, our manager wanted three stand ups a day to check in. Little had changed between them, it disrupted workflow and decreased morale as we would always report "still working on that same ticket" and it sounded like no progress was being made. Even though they're only 5-10 minutes, people are late, or start an off topic conversation. Nightmare. Bet it made him feel productive though, we'd get emails all the time about meetings changing time (even by 5 minutes) or being cancelled and rescheduled. Is that his entire job?
@ThorMaximus
@ThorMaximus 4 жыл бұрын
A Scrum Master is there to look out for you. It’s not command and control position and you have to put up with more bullshit than you realize. If you’re not savvy enough to navigate stakeholders & product owner, you don’t belong in the position. And if you deny that many work at home Devs don’t sleep in and slow down what they do, when old Joshua has admitted to such, you’re not getting how this shit gets seen in how you act non-verbally. It’s obvious and you’re foolish if you think you’re fooling anyone
@CowToes
@CowToes 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. Managers are the idiot cops of the workforce
@iFeelGlee
@iFeelGlee 3 жыл бұрын
"x person is doing awesome, but i dont like how he's doing it, how do i take him down a notch because im horribly out of touch with basic concepts of management?"
@robdog114
@robdog114 3 жыл бұрын
I work for boomer bosses they pride themselves on being absolutes drones I swear to god.
@mariomarillo
@mariomarillo 4 жыл бұрын
Went through the same situation as the first case, ended up getting fired and suing the bastards for more money.
@WitchLuw
@WitchLuw 4 жыл бұрын
is that true When you get fired it goes on your next job or how does that work
@mariomarillo
@mariomarillo 4 жыл бұрын
I live outside the US so I don't know if my legal situation would be the same for someone who gets fired there
@OffGridInvestor
@OffGridInvestor 3 жыл бұрын
@@WitchLuw it actually DOESN'T of you don't tell them. They DO ASK on some applications (not many) so say you quit for a family emergency or were offered a better job that didn't work out. Or moved for a girlfriend or something.
@natashalaurentia2763
@natashalaurentia2763 Жыл бұрын
Whenever I feel tired about working in my current company, I always watch your video and I'm glad my company still look at us employee as actual human
@dawnframe1610
@dawnframe1610 3 жыл бұрын
I’m a boomer and I wish I had your videos when I was working. I think it would be accurate to describe the corporate culture as narcissistic. The boomers suffered as well.
@elcapitan6126
@elcapitan6126 2 жыл бұрын
sucks to be tarnished with a broad brush don't it (I'm technically a millennial but also recognize that these behaviours do not so easily fall into age brackets at all)
@PandaMan02
@PandaMan02 3 жыл бұрын
i had "performance issues" brought up by managers at one of my old jobs before, i had been telling them for months that i had to keep fixing things being done wrong by other people before i could properly complete my work. every time someone told them about the screw ups done by other departments, their response was along the lines of "thats just how they are" or "thats just what they do"
@CodeSmell
@CodeSmell 4 жыл бұрын
Kudos to Josh for continuing to call out BS like this and all the corporate cringe. Many managers can't stand the idea of looking out of their office and not seeing a kingdom of full cubicles. I currently have a medium sized org and they're all remote and they are much more productive than any open-office I have ever worked in. Thanks for what you do, Josh!
@iPLAYtheSTATION
@iPLAYtheSTATION 4 жыл бұрын
"How should I deal with an employee who has slept with my wife?" S to the I to the M to the P.
@OffGridInvestor
@OffGridInvestor 3 жыл бұрын
Someone should've replied "you upload it to pornhub"....
@fanenthusiast3802
@fanenthusiast3802 3 жыл бұрын
Workplace culture. ,😭
@andrewshowland
@andrewshowland 3 жыл бұрын
typically most bosses think their shit don't stink but they usually don't have to clean it up. A good company would let their employees hire their managers so that employees would respect them and they would have a mutual respect for each other instead of managers thinking that their shit never stinks
@theplaintiff5450
@theplaintiff5450 4 жыл бұрын
The second one is great, I wish more people would do that. They demand 25% productivity increase but only pay you a 3% raise? Give them 3%. The first one is kind of a douchebag. The worker ought to at least give them a courtesy of “I’m gonna be remote” today.
@asadb1990
@asadb1990 4 жыл бұрын
i keep a steady pace from day 1. i arrive at 8a and leave by 5p. im only gonna work within office hours. and any work outside those hours will get done the next day. any meetings, work activities, etc. come out of employer time.
@JoshuaFluke1
@JoshuaFluke1 4 жыл бұрын
You can be sure they ask where he is at, every 10 minutes. They know where he's at. Imagine being in an office with 19 other managers while you're the only dev. They don't get that courtesy lmao.
@asadb1990
@asadb1990 4 жыл бұрын
@@JoshuaFluke1 yeah i used to have this problem at last job where the project managers were a real old school boys club that thought they were too good to do any real work. they would boss around the workers like me, go to client meeting, fancy corporate events, etc. basically they would overcompensate for lack of education or any technical skills.
@ronr8687
@ronr8687 4 жыл бұрын
Phantom Warrior that’s what business schools for a place for the idiots to make themselves seem important
@mauricewalshe8339
@mauricewalshe8339 4 жыл бұрын
3% is just about a COLA increase why would you expect 3% more work does the manger not even know what a salaried role is
@jamespn
@jamespn 3 жыл бұрын
We had a manager that scheduled meetings on a continuous basis in order to avoid any day to day conflict or actual work since they’re constantly in meetings.
@vuven8930
@vuven8930 4 жыл бұрын
This is legendary content. As a boss what I can tell you is that this content is gold, abide by it and enjoy happy workplace.
@JMS_Hunter
@JMS_Hunter 4 жыл бұрын
7:56 As a Scrum master wannabe. (working on that certification) I can tell you scrum/agile on itself can be useful, but manager make it god awful to follow. they hear agile and the first thing they think of are meetings. you want to keep meetings to a minimum. 1 per day when possible. and my interpretation of what a scrum master does, or at least what I've been doing is a roadblock remover. not someone who sets useless meetings every single day.
@Headcrabman9999
@Headcrabman9999 4 жыл бұрын
What roadblocks do you usually remove?
@kazykamakaze131
@kazykamakaze131 4 жыл бұрын
Scrum master is just a fancy name for a project manager. First thing you can do is stop having useless meetings. The thing about meetings is, if you can put it in an email/message then you don't need a meeting as you waste valuable time not only yourself but the ENTIRE dev team, just think 20 devs sitting in an hour meeting, that's 20 hours of productivity lost. Majority of the time you'd only need 1 meeting a week and have the devs and technical team lead sort the minutiae out themselves. Trust people to do their jobs and have targets with accountability, doesn't matter how they get there rather that they reach the target. If people are left to solve problems rather than sit hours, you'd find that people will invent smart solutions to problems to solve them at a quicker pace, so they can slack off even for an extra hour a day, but this won't matter because you gave them a target and if done why would it matter if they slack an hour off extra since the work you hired them for is done? There is a reason dev teams in the Netherlands are so productive( fyi they work less than 40 hours a week btw), because they are paid to do work and not sit hours.
@emptystuff1593
@emptystuff1593 4 жыл бұрын
I think scrum is a process trying to solve a problem that isn't a process problem. I used to work in a company that was honestly trying its best to apply scrum. Lots of the meetings didn't have any output but did waste our time. People were struggling to follow the method because scrum doesn't make people magically coordinate, it doesn't help. Updating all these tickets at every stage was wasting our time, actual flow didn't follow ticket flow (features were tested during development, deployed on beta before merge because of testing requirements, developers would be working on multiple tickets instead of one because of external breaks, etc.). Marketing / business people would do their best to circumvent scrum masters and negotiate features with devs because they didn't want to speak with useless middleman. There were about 5 teams of 4-8 developers at my old job. Because of special circumstances, my team (4 devs, 1 manager) was able to work using plain kanban rather than scrum. We outperformed all other teams and met all our deadlines. Simply because we could focus on our work and organize ourselves in a way that matched our team and tasks. Even our manager was useful because as he wasn't focusing on the process, he was available to solve all non dev problems (missing resources, missing / bad specifications, missing information, etc.). We would still do 1 "spring retrospective" every 1 or 2 months to make the manager happy though.
@dogs4life217
@dogs4life217 4 жыл бұрын
@kingofallcrypto The first half of your comment.. You basically described the place I work at, except I have 2 standups minimum and even more meetings if requested by the business
@JMS_Hunter
@JMS_Hunter 4 жыл бұрын
@@Headcrabman9999 most of the times is someone is falling behind on somethings that is holding up someone else. ie. one of my devs is waiting for a file from a vendor. if possible I ask (never force) my dev to work in something else. if not possible i wish him a good rest of the day and "let" him go (I say let, because he is working from home and he is responsible for his own time) I have to go to the vendor and check why we don't have the file yet. one time the vendor was waiting on something else from us. get it delivered. some other times a bug is hard for my dev to figure it out. if I can I help (not a very good developer myself) it not and this is critical I get someone to help us have it resolved ASAP. stuff like that. you could say I try to make everyone's life at work easier.
@funlightfactory6031
@funlightfactory6031 2 жыл бұрын
This says it all, "Does this X% apply to your CEO's total compensation? I'd wager it doesn't." BOOM! 🎤 drop.
@theartistdiamond9397
@theartistdiamond9397 4 жыл бұрын
8:40 Whether you like Scrum or not, the whole team is doing it all wrong. The Dev team decides how to proceed on a Sprint (finishing the product), and neither the SM or PO are supposed to act as a project manager--which is a role that doesn't even exist in Scrum. The company's management seems very mediocre, sort of do-nothings.
@nigelhanzo
@nigelhanzo 3 жыл бұрын
I have had a senior director of a well known MNC said to me 'if they are going back on time, it means they got nothing to do'.. 😑
@colto2312
@colto2312 4 жыл бұрын
The hourly wage is the greatest crime against humanity at large ever perpetrated.
@nishalfurtados4108
@nishalfurtados4108 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah , I have worked on a project and had 7 managers and I have to spend 20/25 hrs a week for meetings n status updates and then work on weekends to accommodate the time lost in meetings and status updates...I complained to HR and she said that's expected from you. :(
@bobxplosion
@bobxplosion 4 жыл бұрын
Yooo I'm the creator of the 1st question of this video just wanna explain some stuff: -I'm not a manager, I put this question from my managers perspective cause I was really salty they didn't want me to work from home (sorry) -I was working for a company that subcontracts other devs, so their client was super happy with me, but my direct boss had mixed feelings cause I wasn't following dumb policy, despite great results. My interaction was with only people from the US and India. No real reason for me to go on person, knew I had the leverage of their happy client and abused it. -The reason I was top dev and only dev from office was because the rest of the devs where from India/US, I was the only one from Mexico. -I received 2 salary increments on 1 year and became team lead because of my performance. -The reason I didn't want to go to the office, was because India devs started working at my 10pm, and I felt I couldn't be a good lead if I couldn't do the same shift as them. -The client ended up leaving, and replaced all 20 managers with managers from India, I got paranoid and eventually left as well. Great review and video Josh, been enjoying your work for 2 years now. best of luck!
@autumnrain7626
@autumnrain7626 2 жыл бұрын
That dev in the first story is such a chad and I aspire to be him one day
@notsure7874
@notsure7874 Жыл бұрын
20 managers, and one developer - at a software development company. Peter from Office Space only had 8 bosses!
@saintsword23
@saintsword23 3 ай бұрын
Corporations are where folks that are high in risk aversion are likely to gather. Such people only want to curtail the risk they get in trouble for a subordinate not following the rules. That's the entire motivation here.
@GalokVonGreshnak
@GalokVonGreshnak 3 жыл бұрын
30 y/o monster ultra-sipping management boomer here. The only bosses I had were actual boomers who had the mentality of: _"this is the quota we want to reach, here's the tools you need, here are the people you can talk to if you need help, and if you're missing something, let me know so I can put it on order. Get the job done by x date otherwise we'll look for someone who can do it."_ For the past six years, that's how I've trained people and it's worked really well. No stress from nagging, motivation's there because finishing faster while getting it right the first time means that much more PTO, I always make myself available to help, and if you need to kick back for half an hour to watch YT, have at it. Hell, I bring in my recurve bow and plink at targets every other day for a couple hours.
@qwerasdfhjkio
@qwerasdfhjkio 4 жыл бұрын
please make this a series
@billsmit9141
@billsmit9141 3 жыл бұрын
JF, good segment. Yes, I am 62 and don't consider myself a Boomer. I grew up with what I call the "Korean War Generation Mentality Syndrome". This is my fathers generation and most of the men who taught and coached me throughout my life. They were uncreative, inflexible and clueless of life around them in every direction. Most of them were just plain Pricks and thought that frivolous work expenses such as Porta-Potty's on a Construction Job Site was just not required for a Human. Roam and Release was the Theory? This was truly the 'Most Worthless Generation" living off the Tit of the WW2 Vets getting the GI Bill and a guaranteed Job right out of College for a War where nobody really did any Combat time. They basically had little or no innovations, hated everything great (my dad hated music in the 60's to 80's and just would not spend a Nickle to better anyone's life}. You are correct that they just Complain as if they cant see you working, they hate it. So I started my own Firm I decides to subcontract all Staff as I am a terrible Manager and hate 2 give Staff Shit unlike the Boomer Managers would. I have now been in Business over 32 years and have never had to fire, yell at or threaten an employee as like you, it is just easier to do the work myself. Back in the day when typewriters were the only High Tech Business Machine I (Unlike my Buddies) took 6 level in JH and HS and moved into the Computer age with a head start.
@Verlasian
@Verlasian Жыл бұрын
He better be using that new cover sheet for TPS reports.
@soarcoder6258
@soarcoder6258 4 жыл бұрын
"They already have a project manager; so, what does the SCRUM MASTER do?"
@me3851
@me3851 3 жыл бұрын
Or what does the PM do, if they’re doing Scrum? Either way, it’s a waste to have both.
@primal9238
@primal9238 Жыл бұрын
Companies expect perfection 24/7... but that's not how it works. You can't always be at 100%. In office productivity is typically only 40-60% of hours worked. Expecting remote work to be 100% is just unrealistic. Humans aren't robots. You're going to replace us with robots eventually, but until then you have to MANAGE human beings.
@aonirsplayground6224
@aonirsplayground6224 4 жыл бұрын
Hey man not sure you'll read this but I'm a pharmacist taking a master's degree and I can't get a "summer" job into this area unfortunately, and I think I would like to learn something about programming, maybe "web dev" kind of thing? Dunno what would be reasonable in a 2 months time-frame to try and learn or where to begin tbh, I found a few tutorials (thank fuck for age of the internet) but I don't wanna get into something where 2 weeks in I find out I need a 3 years degree to understand. Also other people's opinion apreciated as well. Thank you!
@biljam972
@biljam972 4 жыл бұрын
There is no amount of payment, no amount of salary that can compensate your mental and physical health.. Developer who didn't get raise, and slowed his work amount, was, as the manager wrote, feeling better, was in better mood and nicer. Please, LEAVE him be. It's not all about money, it's not all about job, and working until your stress levels are sky high. There is one life we have, let him be freaking happy and work with pace he can handle. Freaking managers!
@jaabel249
@jaabel249 4 жыл бұрын
Dude.... youve got to do more of these. Love it
@augustuswade9781
@augustuswade9781 4 жыл бұрын
What's professionalism? Professionalism is the mindset of "you pay me x amount and I deal with x amount of your problems"
@doraemon402
@doraemon402 27 күн бұрын
"The rules", that unchangeable thing when proven stupid
@BruceNJeffAreMyFlies
@BruceNJeffAreMyFlies 2 жыл бұрын
"How can I make him follow our policy?" Maybe explain to him WHY he needs to follow the policy instead of simply inputting parameters, like he's a fucking computer, and expecting him to follow those rules. And if you can't come up with a good reason, then ask your fucking self why you insist he comes in.
@Hazarth
@Hazarth 3 жыл бұрын
"project velocity has dropped" "SM has suggested we move to THREE standups" here's a question... did you move to two standups because of the remote work? Because it sounds to me like you had a functional team.. then the pandemic hit.. and the Scrum Masters first top priority solution was to do 2 standups since "everyone is working from home and I'm worried they are lazy".. and then the velocity dropped because you keep interrupting them in the middle of work... I currently have 2 standups a day at work... It's a productivity nightmare... half of the time I get deep into work just for the manager to ping me that I'm late for standup...
@me3851
@me3851 3 жыл бұрын
3 stand ups a day? That’s not a Scrum Master, that’s a moron. (I’m a Scrum Master). I agree, there’s no need for a PM and a SM.
@andrewclarke8163
@andrewclarke8163 4 жыл бұрын
This is great insight for me, a management student (and part time software developer) looking at working in the IT field
@LAG09
@LAG09 3 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of a project course we had to do at uni with students from the local business school. In every group the developers who created the actual product put in at least twice the number of hours the business school people doing the business side. Worst was a group of 1 developer and 4 business school muppets where the poor developer put in over 250 hours developing both the server backend and the iOS and Android apps on his own while the muppets only did 30-50 hours of work each.
@JordonDev
@JordonDev 4 жыл бұрын
Flawless video, I seriously hope these types of bosses see this
@jwoods9659
@jwoods9659 3 жыл бұрын
Following their mindset is going to leave you with nothing
@gordo_cabron
@gordo_cabron 3 жыл бұрын
Only one developer? This guy better not run a Jurassic Park...
@pjf7044
@pjf7044 2 жыл бұрын
I believe the future of work and job offers should be tied into smart contracts on the blockchain. Once an employer hires you, the smart contract handles everything. The smart contract analyzes your performance, Or determines whether you have fulfilled your obligations. And it is a two way contract, so employers must also submit reports and oblige by the contract. This way, you are guaranteed raises ahead of time and are not at the mercy of some middle management or owner who does not like you for some petty reason.
@lextor4712
@lextor4712 4 жыл бұрын
Boomer is a mindset - not the age. Exactly!
@jtipale
@jtipale 3 жыл бұрын
2 standups a day was a headache already for me... I guess I would've left my job earlier if I had to deal with 3!
@virtuosomaximoso1
@virtuosomaximoso1 3 жыл бұрын
HR director here: you folks are over looking the sad reality of the world. It's not the staff not following policy it the other staff complaining. This could be percieved as favoritism and an unclear standard for when the office turd needs to be disciplined. Easy fix: The special staff with unique performance needs a unique title. Senior project developer. In fact a staff like the first example should be asked to write their own job description, then hold them to that standard.
@marcospenadev
@marcospenadev 4 жыл бұрын
How tf do you have 20 people on a project and most of them be managers???
@craeddock
@craeddock 3 жыл бұрын
Managers need to stop trying to groom people's behavior to a nitpick. Its dehumanizing.
@Audiogeek-kf2ez
@Audiogeek-kf2ez 2 жыл бұрын
My God Joshua. I am the boomer in age and temperament. But I use employees to their potential, an HR sourced employee book is GUIDELINES ONLY, if a devopler get a brainstorm on a project and calls or texts and simply says , " I am at a breakthrough , let me play it out, I will contact you if anything changes" this is a way myself (dept manger) and a great devopler have come up with a way to get project off the ground with fantastic software. Let the man or woman do their work in the most comfortable way. If he needs a PC of equipment at home, he can come at sign it out, or I will drop it off to him. Why be that open with company policy?. Nothing hurst a company more than pissed off employees,or a very horrible work environment. Pay is not even mentioned here. Boomer is not the complaint here, it is old out of date policy that no longer works.
@WickedParanoid
@WickedParanoid Жыл бұрын
"Since he's doing more than a great job, I feel like I have no real options" Translation: "I want to power trip on this guy, but he's not exactly replacable and actually valuable (likely way moreso than me) so I'm mad about it".
@univibe23
@univibe23 4 жыл бұрын
Uuhhh yeah, I'm gonna need those TPS reports.
@Omikoshi78
@Omikoshi78 3 жыл бұрын
So what’s up with the camera by the ceiling? Is it mandated by some remote work policy? Hope not 😬
@ODST626
@ODST626 Жыл бұрын
Also what if the articles are work related? Ive had to read articles, watch videos, and even play video games for research for my job. It was funny cuz my boss was like "play fortnite" And i was like haha sure. They were serious. I hated it xD
@mikealexander1935
@mikealexander1935 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a Boomer with a GenX boss and he has has no problem with me working from home. I am retiring soon and he is using me to write stuff (which I am good at) while I am still working. But then we all all engineers/scientists and so we are all pretty rational and chill.
@TheDrunkenAlcoholic
@TheDrunkenAlcoholic 4 жыл бұрын
hmm I don't understand how this can even be an issue, if you want to work at a particular company then you must follow the company policy, that's the whole point of having a policy, you know, the one you sign and agreed to at the time of employment. top developer or not he still needs to stick to what he agreed to with the company policy, otherwise he should have opposed the policy before signing it, or simply go and work at a different company.
@fabianpijpers
@fabianpijpers 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Joshua you are giving a good example of what overbureaucratisation of work does to a job. Ever less gets done And to be a good manager is to be part of the working hole. So you should be working along with the other programmers. So a manager should also be a programmer. As in every job it is best to part of the executing team so as best to keep in touch with reality of the work and it's goings on.
@misssincere5762
@misssincere5762 4 жыл бұрын
Your channel is so refreshing.
@yourmachine27
@yourmachine27 3 жыл бұрын
This applies to desktop support! Finally a voice of reason!!! Thank you!
@rick2591
@rick2591 4 жыл бұрын
Are you sure the post is from a legitimate Scrum Master? That is a complete violation of Scrum. The meetings are meant to be short and only once per day. Then to not micromanage the team so they can complete their tasks The primary point is to enable to Scrum Master to find any impediments that are restricting the teams ability to perform... For example, you have a worker creating a batch job as part of a SOX requirement, that will disable accounts based on a unique employee identifier that HR provides. As the Scrum Master, you find out that there is no standard process for defining and associating the user account to this unique identifier. Then, as the Scrum Master it is your responsibility to enable the team by - finding out why the HR identifier and the account ID are not the same... - finding out how we can improve or implement a process to ensure that the linkage failure is resolved... The Scrum Master's primary focus is to enable the team to work efficiently and provide solutions that will reduce noise and work consistently throughout the business.
@azatecas
@azatecas 2 жыл бұрын
bro the top dev at our company wont even respond to the cto or the director via microsoft Teams, or slack cause hes a huge advocate of discord lol.
@ronclark9724
@ronclark9724 2 жыл бұрын
Obviously you have never had Business 101... Raise prices as high as possible until you start to lose sales. Cut costs as much as possible until sales drops. Note the significance of sales. Money talks, bullshit walks... Developers are nothing! Management and sales is the ticket to success...
@DRNT940
@DRNT940 3 жыл бұрын
What was the product you were selling halfway through the video.
@pradeepraghuraman4430
@pradeepraghuraman4430 4 жыл бұрын
Standup calls can be useful once or twice a day, but they are still sometimes a large waste of time and people are getting over excited about this scrum shit and agile development.
@paulallen579
@paulallen579 4 жыл бұрын
One developer and you need a _release_ manager? What in God's name does he do that can't be done with a CI/CD pipeline?
@kazykamakaze131
@kazykamakaze131 4 жыл бұрын
Most manager roles are useless garbage that can be done with software, rather hire more developers instead of managers. In most cases I've found the technical team lead doing MOST of the ACTUAL management of the devs and not the project manager, etc.
@fresch4395
@fresch4395 4 жыл бұрын
I dont even have a boomer boss, he is like 35 or so and it is a small start-up but I feel like I am with a boomer boss. You have to come to work at 8:30, when you come in at 8:35 you get a warning. There is no overtime compensation. There is no Homeoffice. There is no parking, so you have to find a spot somewhere in the city. You get the legal minimum for vacation days. And we do not work with frameworks, everything is just plain old js and php. You also have to work 40 hours a week so you are always getting off at 5pm. And there are no benefits at all. Well ok we get a meal for free on fridays.
@white_will_smith
@white_will_smith 4 жыл бұрын
That's a shit job
@TheDrunkenAlcoholic
@TheDrunkenAlcoholic 4 жыл бұрын
why don't you find another job where you can come in at 08:35 and get compensated for your overtime, and able to do home office, and have parking, and get the legal minimum vacation days, and get to work with frameworks, and do other things than just java script and php, and work less than 40 hours a week, and be able to go home before 5pm, and get benefits. Sounds to me like you totally chose the wrong job for your self, unless they are holding you at gun point why not leave. Unfortunately it's people like yourself who will continue to work under these conditions which allows them to continue to put these conditions on their employees. You should have at very least stipulated what conditions you are expecting when signing up with the company, or maybe read through the company policy and see if they abiding to the conditions which had been set out before you agreed to employment
@fresch4395
@fresch4395 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheDrunkenAlcoholic because I cannot leave and I didnt know about it beforehand. In germany you can choose a so called dual-study, where you get a Job and they pay you and pay your education and you get some experience while you are getting your Bachelors or Masters degree. I cannot change Jobs, because there arent many and most dont want a Half done Student. Especially because you would not get a recommendation from your old Job. So I am Stück until I am done with college. When I was looking for a Job some would tell me that I wouldnt legally be allowed to have flexible hours. But this law only applies to underaged people but I didnt know that so I didnt ask. And when I asked questions they were super understandable that maybe that 45 Minute drive wont be always 45 Minutes. I also didnt know that I wont be allowed to Park there and would have to find a parking space out of town. Its not like I was experienced in that Kind of thing because this was my First time of course. And no one in my family had an education like that. And I only found out about it when I was talking to other students. Most laws only apply to underaged students which nobody told me and since I am over 25 wont even closely apply to me. Also usually the union Set things like working hours etc. for students but in the Media Field there is no union. I will get out as soon as I got my Masters degree because then the contract is over. Then I am free to choose to go wherever I want and then I will know what I want and can ask for. Especially since I am on my way to graduate with honors.
@nathankinman7753
@nathankinman7753 2 жыл бұрын
And if that guy wasted time driving to and from the office which would slow down his performance, then then boomer bosses would be bitching about him not turning in his work on time! So damned if he does! Damned if he doesn't!
@racorbin
@racorbin 4 жыл бұрын
At barely a boomer, more of what's called a cusper, I appreciated the fact you defined boomer as a mindset. It is. I work for one.
@SpiritOfGhost144
@SpiritOfGhost144 4 жыл бұрын
Happy Birthday Josh!!!
@secretluver
@secretluver 4 жыл бұрын
> TFW I don't have a manager.
@pickledparsleyparty
@pickledparsleyparty 3 жыл бұрын
The summary of the "boomer manager" mindset is telling people they need to do things before you figure out why they need to do it. As soon as the employee wonders why, the boomer manager has no answer. And then they go to StackExchange and wonder why they can't control their worker.
@Whytheads
@Whytheads 3 жыл бұрын
That work at home complaint didnt age well, did it?
@harrison6082
@harrison6082 3 жыл бұрын
Substance > Process
@cpK054L
@cpK054L 4 жыл бұрын
My manager doesn't even talk to me anymore. I'm sad :(
@HadToChangeMyName_YoutubeSucks
@HadToChangeMyName_YoutubeSucks 4 жыл бұрын
The problem with the working at home developer could be that the company has lots of employees who have to follow the home work rules, and if one person if ignoring them it causes bad feelings on the people who are following the guidelines. The one griping about his pay, well it's America bub, go work where they'll pay you more. I don't care how good you are, if you work for me and intentionally reduce your production because you don't like your pay you're going to be immediately unemployed. If you agree to do a job for $X and then proceed to do less than you agreed to because you don't like the price you agreed to you're dishonest. I'm not a boss, I'm a developer, and I think both these guys are in the wrong.
@effmerunning
@effmerunning 4 жыл бұрын
I like this format
@fcktom
@fcktom Жыл бұрын
Genuinely became one of my favorite channels in days. Your content is a treasure to a disgruntled young workforce 🫡
@hobbes2555
@hobbes2555 4 жыл бұрын
More meetings to increase productivity? This reminds me of "the beatings will continue until department morale improves!"
@tenminutetokyo2643
@tenminutetokyo2643 4 жыл бұрын
Scott Adams.
@t41flyer
@t41flyer 3 жыл бұрын
-Or supervisors who demand more frequent POA&M charts when a project falls behind.
@joanbaczek2575
@joanbaczek2575 3 жыл бұрын
Having meetings instead of working decreasing productivity
@jessicah4462
@jessicah4462 3 жыл бұрын
Happening at my husband’s company, too. Meetings all day some days. Gives middle management, who are inept and clueless, an excuse of “working on it” to their bosses. His company keeps cutting staff and wonders why they can’t get anything done. Istha mis tree 🤪
@Chris-es3wf
@Chris-es3wf 2 жыл бұрын
@@jessicah4462 eh middle management isn't usually the problem. They're just the mouthpiece for senior management.
@garypw2265
@garypw2265 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a boomer, (by age) and I approve of this message
@JoshuaFluke1
@JoshuaFluke1 4 жыл бұрын
We appreciate you gary
@tello9504
@tello9504 4 жыл бұрын
Covalent Bond jJAJAJAJJA
@cubixthree3495
@cubixthree3495 4 жыл бұрын
Meow
@rcssaxby
@rcssaxby 3 жыл бұрын
Nice
@Oncopoda
@Oncopoda 3 жыл бұрын
How are you still alive Gary? 😂
@tirtakeniten
@tirtakeniten 4 жыл бұрын
20 managers in a project and only 1 developers, no wonder why the developer wouldn't show up at the office.
@Reverend-ek6kt
@Reverend-ek6kt 3 жыл бұрын
you assume the managers are in the office instead of "working from home" or on "annual leave"
@chrisobrienweb
@chrisobrienweb 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds just like my current position. They are always hiring new managers but no new developers to actually get all the work they want to be done.
@Nukestarmaster
@Nukestarmaster 3 жыл бұрын
Probably can't go five minutes without some Karen poking their nose into his work.
@mrosskne
@mrosskne 3 жыл бұрын
@@Nukestarmaster then he should probably stop producing shitty work
@Nukestarmaster
@Nukestarmaster 3 жыл бұрын
@@mrosskne Ok Boomer
@go-aheadbe-offended1767
@go-aheadbe-offended1767 3 жыл бұрын
When bosses micromanage they create problems that never existed to make themselves feel more important.
@dominiking69
@dominiking69 Жыл бұрын
Which blows my mind because having employees you can just trust is a fking dream. Imagine having people who make your job easier ..just to intentionally make things more difficult
@thisiswhathappenslarry
@thisiswhathappenslarry 2 ай бұрын
It's mind boggling...sometimes I even feel like the better i do my job the more they start to nag and micromanage me...WHY?!? I'm doing my job meticulously specifically so that you leave me the hell alone!!!
@EricaChavira-on4oz
@EricaChavira-on4oz 2 ай бұрын
@@thisiswhathappenslarryexactly what I’m going through now. So f ing annoying.
@khajiit8221
@khajiit8221 4 жыл бұрын
People do not leave bad jobs - they leave bad management.
@tenminutetokyo2643
@tenminutetokyo2643 4 жыл бұрын
And then managers and pols all acuse them of "job hopping" and "seeking more money" as the only motives - not knowing its their own insane mgmt. driving most people away.
@alsehendo34
@alsehendo34 4 жыл бұрын
Bad employers hire bad managers, if your not bad move on.
@CaptApril123
@CaptApril123 3 жыл бұрын
Every job i've ever left..never been the job, always been the managment.
@ThePhilippers
@ThePhilippers 3 жыл бұрын
@@tenminutetokyo2643 That is true and than they say, never talk bad about your old company. Like what the hell I hated my manager, he talked like 1 hour with me in three yeahrs and half a hour of this was him tlaking to me that I don´t do the job like he wants me to do it (My method was just 2x faster, but old ways are good ways).
@davidschreck1321
@davidschreck1321 3 жыл бұрын
@@tenminutetokyo2643 I've never understood how "seeking more money" is a bad thing. Isn't that what a career is? Unless someone wants to be a writer eating ramen noodles their whole life, it's probably money motivated.
@DavidJoffe1
@DavidJoffe1 4 жыл бұрын
"Sometimes he doesn't come in to the office for 2 entire weeks" ... as a programmer, I can tell you that's when he's in the deep-concentration mode required to be that productive. Forcing him to obey stupid pointless rules when he's obviously producing well, will destroy his productivity. If he is clearly productive, then he is best at 'managing himself' to maximize his own productivity.
@Black-Dawg-Jesus
@Black-Dawg-Jesus 4 жыл бұрын
Also even if he doesn't need it for productivity I can understand why he doesn't follow this rule. The manager even pointed out that he has no interaction with ANY person or object in the office. So his reason would be: "It's wrong because it's wrong." Maybe if you're talking to a kindergarten child this would work but any sane mentally healthy adult individual would question your rule and the reason behind it. Something can't be wrong or right without a reason. If you have no reason for a specific rule, there's no point of obeying it to begin with.
@tenminutetokyo2643
@tenminutetokyo2643 4 жыл бұрын
My favorite is forcing devs to sit in open offices where distractions are limitless. If you can't deep dive code for 16 hours every day, fails are likely.
@Black-Dawg-Jesus
@Black-Dawg-Jesus 4 жыл бұрын
@Johannes Terzis Maybe this virus will open up the mind of the average office-joe and most people will realise how dumb it is to not work from home when you work in a job where it's easily possible to do so. It's just corporate nonsense.
@eldoug1589
@eldoug1589 3 жыл бұрын
A group of 20 and mostly managers already sounds like a recipe for disaster for any project whether it's software related or not. With that many managers any person will be distracted with status updates when making their way to the bathroom. If anything could be accomplished it'd be a miracle.
@monkemode8128
@monkemode8128 3 жыл бұрын
For real. I get my best work done at home with no distractions. Even if I'm not being bothered by anyone having people around still affects your ability to focus.
@metagen77
@metagen77 4 жыл бұрын
20 managers and 1 dev... Dude don't get trolled
@LucasOliveira-pc4ks
@LucasOliveira-pc4ks 4 жыл бұрын
I was thinking maybe it was a project that requires also other types of expertise, like design, so for that reason it wouldn't be necessary a team of developers. Though saying there are mostly managers on the team is quite unusual...
@ttmguitar
@ttmguitar 4 жыл бұрын
I agree it looks like a troll post ...but you never know some people really are that dense.
@larry_the
@larry_the 4 жыл бұрын
you still watched the video regardless of whether he got trolled or not
@viewtifuljon8105
@viewtifuljon8105 4 жыл бұрын
I think KZbinrs make the posts themselves to have interesting content.
@panta_rhei.26
@panta_rhei.26 4 жыл бұрын
There are still lots of managers out there who are genuinely like that though.
@ABU_BEKIR_SIDDIK
@ABU_BEKIR_SIDDIK 4 жыл бұрын
I used to work at a company like this. We had 4 managers for every one developer. The company believe it or not decided that hiring more managers to manage the developers was the solution to us not being able to complete tasks on time. Eventually one of our genius managers decided that it was better to just get rid of all the US based devs. He ended up firing all of us except for 3 guys who would be responsible for bug fixes. The rest of the project was outsourced to India. When I asked him why he was firing us he said it was to hard to manage us because we had too many "rights".
@jurybery
@jurybery 4 жыл бұрын
By any tiny weeny teeny chance was this manager from the "outsourcing" *#**#cough** cough india cough ##* country?
@jurybery
@jurybery 4 жыл бұрын
@thomas samson i am sorry i do not understand this. Btw as an european i consider the most of the indians being the same race as europeans if that is what you are after.
@johnsmith-ro2tw
@johnsmith-ro2tw 4 жыл бұрын
haha. If managing local employees is too hard, wait until he manages a remote team of Indian workers. Besides, doesn't "too hard to manage us" equivalent to admitting the manager lacks management skills ? Would be great to share a feedback how this company is doing today with their Indian devs. If top tech companies hire locally rather than outsource 100% of their engineers to India for $5/hour, there is a reason.
@kazykamakaze131
@kazykamakaze131 4 жыл бұрын
@thomas samson You realize that EVERY race had slaves and slave owners. Stop being such a disgusting racist.
@dothedeed
@dothedeed 4 жыл бұрын
@@jurybery You think the manager outsourced to India because he is Indian? No - they outsource because they want MORE MONEY.
@altruisticlemur
@altruisticlemur 4 жыл бұрын
"Boomer is a mindset, not an age" I LOVE THAT!
@SableTalks
@SableTalks 4 жыл бұрын
I remember being a teenager and looking forward to adults having respect for their job and employees.. little did I know 😅🙄
@leonardorodriguez9121
@leonardorodriguez9121 4 жыл бұрын
Little we knew in deed...
@atlfun08
@atlfun08 4 жыл бұрын
Ditto
@misterchief5378
@misterchief5378 4 жыл бұрын
@thomas samson holy crap
@zotaninoron3548
@zotaninoron3548 4 жыл бұрын
@@misterchief5378 Mr. Thomas Samson's real name is Thomas Malthus, apparently. Joking aside he sounds like a Nazbol.
@lukesampeck5689
@lukesampeck5689 4 жыл бұрын
@thomas samson that is a terrible idea. 1st of, regulation of people's ability to reproduce is abhorrently immoral. what about just taxing 50% of all wealth above a very generous 20 million a year. that would solve almost all of these issues, and the rich still get to be ridiculously rich.
@kendrajohnson4900
@kendrajohnson4900 4 жыл бұрын
If he's doing so well, why do they care how often he is in. What a clusterfuck of managers grappling for control.
@machinestats459
@machinestats459 3 жыл бұрын
Because they are not getting work done, Google is bringing people back as well, they can see what you are doing with the Company laptop.
@drswaqqinscheckingin7210
@drswaqqinscheckingin7210 2 жыл бұрын
@@machinestats459 lol that's ridiculous, most people get more work done from home than they ever did at the office.
@deat3456w
@deat3456w 4 жыл бұрын
These managers are literally everywhere. These guys would rather u follow stupid rules that contradict your work, than actually let common sense work. These middle managers are sad people that crave any authority.
@OhmVibe
@OhmVibe 4 жыл бұрын
You'd think people in a management position got there because they have some kind of actual skill in a being a leader, but most of the time it's just because they're good at kissing corporate posterior and bossing people around.
@Nightfighter82
@Nightfighter82 4 жыл бұрын
These are bad managers. The Company Handbook is a guide not a law book. If I was his manager I’d leave him alone. My job is to remove road blocks and use accountability when they violate rules that lead to liability or impact other employees. If there is no harm in what they are doing, I have other shit to do as a manager.
@WitchLuw
@WitchLuw 4 жыл бұрын
even worse at grocery stores and malls
@WitchLuw
@WitchLuw 4 жыл бұрын
@@Nightfighter82 Only if they were like Alex Becker. They are so good they dont need to talk or last message in 6months. So why cant they leave you alone all day
@strawberryshortgirl2637
@strawberryshortgirl2637 4 жыл бұрын
You... Just summed up all the other dickhead managers I have had
@onldhes
@onldhes 4 жыл бұрын
I had a boomer boss once get mad at me for trying to calm down an angry co-worker by saying "there is crap here that bothers me as well, but I try to just get along". Like how dare I suggest this minimum wage job isn't perfect.
@Laudanum-gq3bl
@Laudanum-gq3bl 3 жыл бұрын
I’m GenX. Boomer bosses were a pain in my ass for the first 15 years of my career. Thank god they’re retiring now. Now I have to keep my fellow X’ers from becoming Boomers 2.0.
@Mpal217
@Mpal217 2 жыл бұрын
I feel your pain, my GenX brother!
@GashdakSaghzaar
@GashdakSaghzaar 2 жыл бұрын
I had a boss who was a Gen X’er but was identical to a boomer in virtually every way. He was such an asshole.
@CaesarInVa
@CaesarInVa 2 жыл бұрын
Its inevitable that your fellow X'ers will become Banagers (boomer managers), as will the generation that succeeds them and the generation that succeeds them. Once you become a manager, your perspective changes entirely. You no longer see things from the individual employee's side. Suddenly you see everything through the lens of management (and your own personal financial interest which is intertwined with management's). I, for one, will never go back to being a manager. Just give me my assignment, keep the corporate culture events and all that other mandatory HR equity bullshit to the minimum, stay out of my way and I'll give you the best content for the paltry wage you're paying me.
@Kjf2691
@Kjf2691 Жыл бұрын
Some are retiring, a number orange though, why? Because they’re addicted to power and love telling people what to do as well as having people do shit for them.
@CowToes
@CowToes Жыл бұрын
​@@Kjf2691 I was raised by boomers. Can confirm, they hate actual work and love telling everyone what to do.
@MrApplewine
@MrApplewine 4 жыл бұрын
making people show up to an "office" is about control. It is designed to drain your time and energy and so they can observe you because they want to own you, not pay for your services.
@888alphaable
@888alphaable 4 жыл бұрын
And you wonder why so many people want workers back in the office so fast.
@JavaScriptJolt
@JavaScriptJolt 4 жыл бұрын
💯
@OffGridInvestor
@OffGridInvestor 3 жыл бұрын
As someone who spends like 2.5 hours commute time DAILY.... I can't think of a stupider thing than forcing someone to come in for NO REAL REASON.
@JYDIVISN
@JYDIVISN 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely true.
@billywayne6104
@billywayne6104 2 жыл бұрын
@@OffGridInvestor you know what i like, driving an hour and 10 minutes to work only to find out there was no work available and told to go home. we can text non relevant crap all the time but cant send a text telling me my truck is in the shop, not to come in. love it
@wwm84
@wwm84 4 жыл бұрын
"We need to increase productivity. I know! We'll have three meetings a day that interrupt everyone's workflow and accomplish nothing except to tell my boss that I'm relevant to the company!"
@churchofpos2279
@churchofpos2279 3 жыл бұрын
You have been spying at my work.
@elcapitan6126
@elcapitan6126 2 жыл бұрын
sounds like a solid strategy... for the middle manager
@kittyofleisure680
@kittyofleisure680 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you qualified Boomer as a mindset not an age. The best boss I've ever had was a Boomer (age). The worst was too, so...
@Arturas002
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