The only way to make Red-Eyes viable

[@halowaffle25]

At least they finally have a direction. Red-Eyes has been a confused mess ever since GX, so it's about time they found a route that works. The metalmorph stuff is cool, and it even ties into the old Gearfried equip & Red Eyes Fang with Chain gimmicks if you squint hard enough.

[@canyouwavedash3298]

I'd even dare say, with stuff like Metalmorph and Primite. Red Eyes is already viable, people just don't want to play it; they literally have a normal summonable ROTA, a link 1, and a way to search Red Eyes Fusion. So it's insane to me to still see people complaining about it "not being Red Eyes"

[@Scrafting]

@@canyouwavedash3298 another thing red eyes has going on for them rn is that they are level 7 which gives them some nice druler synergy. make light ruler, dump tempest, search beryl. you heard it here first.

[@flackenstien]

I always thought that while Red-Eyes goes in a few directions, they would be easy to tie together into something solid.

[@RedTheWeeb]

This isn't a new direction.. Equips have been the the idea of red-eyes since it's first debute rex used and equip spell on it. Then Joey proceeded to also use that equip spell and metalmorph. Irl metalmorph was the first ever support for red-eyes

[@ducky36F]

@@canyouwavedash3298 tbf though, most of the time when you try to play a “red-eyes” deck what you end up with is worse Dragon Link.

[@mrbondtux4987]

ppl acctualy forgot that this metal claw doesn't have to be summoned by metalmorph, which mean it can be summoned by The Black Stone of Legend.

[@ak47dragunov]

I think Josh is underselling BMD by saying its the best RE card. It is unironically one of the strongest normal summons in the game. Its nutty some of the things you can do with it alone

[@grimrapper5202]

Versatility yes, THE strongest though? Idk... ...I mean Samsara D Lotus and Snake-Eye Ash is a thing back when they're in full power

[@zwartesoep2010]

​@@grimrapper5202 I mean if we're looking at full power, BMD into guardragons and a free borreload/appo in between were consistently also an issue for a few years.

[@brettfettbeargaming]

In master duel, black metal alone is Borrelend, Borreload Savage, and Das Pater Once metalmorph stuff is legal too, add the Fullmetal to that end board because you can theoretically search 3 times and are only playing 2 targets at the moment

[@ak47dragunov]

@@grimrapper5202 I did not say it was THE strongest

[@ksander1779]

@@brettfettbeargamingno way BMD ends on that alone. You’d have to run RE meteor that dumps a normal monster, no?

[@hikokujaku]

Six Samurai weaknesses -Doesn't have 1 card combo -2 card combo need to be specific (tuner+non tuner or kageki+kizaru in case you don't have tuner in hand) -Awkward search card (signal can only search lv3 or lower, kizaru have to be special summoned, gateway have to be hard drawn or searched with battle shogun) -If you went for battle shogun first, veiler/imperm can stop your entire play and make you -3 in card advantage unless you have another six samurai card in hand

[@canyouwavedash3298]

Inb4 Yummy is a claw machine archetype that zone locks by summoning little guys to your opponent's field and the cover monster is a non OPT snatch steal

[@sepheiba]

WHAT?!!

[@angrymom1515]

That sounds like a fun concept

[@knessy6446]

Red-Eyes Bystial Primite is actually not bad

[@dark_save8682]

Literally my deck rn in TCG that I'm using.

[@frankunodostres473]

this is a nice extender tbh. red-eyes has a bunch of traps you can set to get a free lv7 and if nothing else, you can normal set BMD and tribute it for this guy and get a search. not bad at all. for the other effects you'd need to open max metalmorph or a way to search it.

[@RedTheWeeb]

Black metal is already a way to get a max metalmorph

[@SupermegaFredFredBurger]

BM can search full metal which gets you max metalmorph and summon full metal turn 1.

[@batpool2787]

RE Metal Claw is certainly a good card in Red-Eyes. It recycles the max Metalmorph so that you can get Fullmetal Dragon for the grind game. Unfortunately it requires a set card to summon and it only works while Metalmorph is in rotation, making it a 1 of in Red-Eyes (at least in the variant I run). Red-Eyes could use -better access to Black Metal -a better fusion spell/a quick-play fusion spell that can be used the turn after you play REF -a good fusion (besides dragoon)

[@John-f7t7f]

They could also just print a target for Red eyes soul, but that might just be me.

[@batpool2787]

@ oh that could be nice to

[@sphealios3401]

gonna be honest, I wholeheartedly disagree about Metal claw being good in red-eyes. I do think it is a spectacular metalmorph support card, but the way it fits into it's own native archetype (red-eyes) is as disconnected as red-eyes is to itself. of course, red-eyes is now heavily oriented around the metalmorph cards, as it is the best direction we've gotten in a while. however, I am a professional yapper, so I have dumped a bunch of rambling below into why I think this is a terrible red-eyes card. the deck's only effective normal is black metal dragon, both in the way that it's the only one that does something, and...well depending on the build you chose to run it might be the only normal summonable red-eyes(oriented) monster in your deck. meaning that to summon him easily in red-eyes (regardless of build) would be to send a set spell/trap to the GY. the spell/traps are actively the only redeeming part about red-eyes, and we have no way to recover our spell/traps from the GY. hard pass. I do think that there are plenty of ways the deck can be fixed, and to have everything tie in nicely together. give the deck a D.D. swirl slime that can be activated on either turn to allow the fusion build to have more options instead of praying they don't have an ash or a dominus impulse in hand when you attempt to fusion summon. give them a field spell to treat red-eyes monsters as vanillas in the GY so the support cards around Normals have actual targets. there's so much that can be done to tie every card we've gotten together. I just hope it happens sooner than later

[@batpool2787]

@@sphealios3401 to be fair I’m thinking this as well, which is why I only intend to play this card at 1 solely for turn 3-4 utility, and nothing else. The variant of RE that I play is “Red-Eyes Primite Metalmorph Allure Queen”, and in that deck the two best sends for this card would be Drillbeam and Boot Sector Launch, which I play in the deck for the Allure Queens. With the Beryl you can set a s/t from the deck, so getting Claw out isn’t the hardest thing to do.

[@dark_save8682]

In my deck (with proxies still) I also have Metal Claw as a one of, tho my approach to it is a bit different. Red-Eyes Primite Bystial is what I'm running, and honestly.. this thing doesn't even need to be on the field for you to still use Metalmorph the turn it was set. Just send an extra set card like Primite Lordly Lode to grave and good thing. I've been getting good results with my list, even tho it's with proxies and etc it's doing good even against Malice and Ryzeal as well. At least I can play against those and more.

[@mrharvy100]

It looks like the same artist for Dinomorphia. Especially getting Kent vibes off the police dog monster.

[@retro1reactive]

I pray for the day Red-Eyes becomes a tier one deck so i can go to the moon in selling my SDJ-001 Red-Eyes 🐉🚀🌚

[@CaliburXL99]

Technically speaking since Red-Eyes is a level 7 focused deck u can play the new DR XYZ & maybe 1 or 2 copies of the wind Dragon Ruler to search Black metal(preferably doing this without waisting your Normal summon).

[@RedTheWeeb]

Things red-eyes should have/get as support: 1. An equip that makes black stone/gearfried better by equipping baby from deck to it(this would be a 2 card combo but more monsters on the board for the standard BMD combo) 2. A black stone/soul target (preferably something that instantly does stuff on summon) 3. A foolish target many ways to foolish card but nothing to foolish. 4. A new fusion method 5. A new xyz and a new fusion

[@arrownoir]

Give them ritual Geminis.

[@Tedaus20]

Imagine if the K9 waifu card was just another Zoodiac card lol

[@flackenstien]

Can we talk about how they just printed a card that says "send 1 Set card you control to the GY" for cost in a post-Mimighoul world? Why not "Send 1 Set card you control to YOUR GY"? I know the OCG doesn't have 'ghouls yet, but still. Waiting for a Level 4 Red-Eyes that searches a Trap with an effect that Equips to a monster, and then tags into a Level 1 DARK Dragon a la Lonefire Blossom.

[@gabrielgois8724]

Have you read Dominus Impulse?

[@flackenstien]

@gabrielgois8724 Yes. Also silly. Not as bad as sending off Set cards though, as you can still lock the opponent with Dungeon and try to OTK in the following turn(s). Cards like this are more annoying, and in some cases can be used alongside Impulse.

[@benjacobsen9251]

I like the max metalmorph support for my dragon ruler deck

[@brandonlima8558]

Josh probably won't see this but coming from a Dwagon player here the best line rn with black metal is not very popular. Ns black metal>link off search rmd> ss rmd revive black metal> Romulus for ravine and black metal add meteor> ravine dump samsara dragon> make seal with meteor and Romulus> samara dragon add back meteor and tribute seal to summon it> trigger seal summon sornoir> make autumn and summon seifert> seifert add wryvm and banish to add back lub of sornior. Gets you anything and every of the hieratics

[@deviantknight7009]

They are redoing V Jump promos and updating the monsters so one day Red-eyes will get his new form of Darkness Metal

[@arthurskok5899]

already have Darkness metal the dragon of dark steel tho which is dog

[@KixMusaid]

they should give broken support to red eyes just like they did to yubel

[@Powerman293]

It's an interesting free level 7 Dragon at least. You can play Black Metal Dragon, Link into Striker dragon, Grab the Red Eyes and Boot sector. Send the boot sector to summon the claw.

[@DarkAuraLord]

I'm so excited for Alliance Insight, I can't wait to play that new Kizan synchro retrain! It's been a good time to be a 6 sams player lately 👏

[@DarkAuraLord]

Hi there, I am that six samurai midcore player Paul was talking about in his video. We are at the very least on Six Strike - Double Assault as a target and extender from Tactical Trainer's GY effect. The banish effect of Kizan is pretty good, not because of the pop (that is nice), but for enabling Chengying, which this decks makes pretty easily, and for the recursion which makes generating counters even easier. The deck's main weakness is not end board, nor fragility - in fact, the deck is pretty resilient now, able to chain block ash on Shogun and dodge imperm with cunning, as well as making a monster negate as our 3rd summon to insulate against other handtraps. The main weakness I would say is consistency, along with shifter and droll. Not having any one card starters (Kageki is a 1.5, but is fairly consistent thanks to things like smoke signal) makes the deck rough with some opening hands, and the engine is fairly large so finding room for non-engine can also be a challenge. The new Synchro doesn't really address that issue, but it is still a really nice tool for the extra deck. Overall the deck is in a pretty decent spot right now, it's far less fragile than it was pre-ROTA, where it would just die to almost any point of interaction on Shogun, and there are even builds that don't rely on gateway now, which is neat to see.

[@the5thdoctor]

As a meta player but i have and love six sams to we Gateway to 3 or 2. It would help the deck so much konami needs to step up.

[@DarkAuraLord]

@@the5thdoctor I agree, they need to shotgun Gateway to 3. It would make the deck a bit more consistent and able to grind without really changing too much about it's potential. The game is at a point now where Gateway to 3 would not really shoot the deck up the tier list, there are too many powerful recursion effects and board breakers and ultimately the deck can still be smothered by interaction and hand traps thanks to the lack of 1 card starters - gateway to 3 would not change that fact. Infinite looping is degenerate, but the deck already does that even with Gateway at 1 and has several different methods of FTK. I don't think we need to worry about it honestly, it's cheesy and the deck is a lot better off playing a standard build-a-board game plan, imo.

[@TodaWars]

I find it sad and funny that the biggest issue nowadays is. "I don't have 1 card full combo." I can agree that it is an issue for it to be the best deck. Would also disappoint annoyed, of the 1 card full combo design. I'd rather keep it as is. (1 card full combo is a bad design for the game.) Can't see gateway at more then 1 either unless you errata it slightly. "You can only control one x / activate one x per turn." Then you could still have some counterplay and minimize more options for more ftks.

[@DarkAuraLord]

@@TodaWars to be clear, I am happy with where the deck is at, but we are talking about "issue" in the sense of the deck being competitive (not even the best, just competitive) against the meta, which is what Josh was asking. I wouldn't mind the deck staying as is (and honestly I still don't) if I didn't have to compete against other decks outpacing me because of these same powerful 1 card enablers while having very little or no weaknesses anywhere else. I also named more than one issue with the deck (large engine, folds to droll / shifter, inconsistent hands). I agree, I'm not the biggest fan of 1 card combo non-sense either, but it seems pretty clear to me that no matter what anyone feels about that, we are getting 1 card combos in this game whether we approve of that card design or not. A deck needs more than just 1 card starters to be powerful nowadays, there are plenty of decks that are highly consistent and full combo off of 1 card but still are NOWHERE to be seen in the meta, Marincess for example. As for gateway, it's already pretty vulnerable to droll and shifter, like I was saying earlier, and if you have enough disruption or the sams player opens weak, ghost ogre or even imperm+veiler also works just fine as well. It also doesn't do a damn thing for the deck going second, it doesn't matter how many copies of gateway you have, you WILL have to go 2nd at some point in a bo3, and you will have to deal with post SB decks that side for what Six Sam's game plan is. If you want to talk about stupid choices, erratas are far worse than 1 card combos, ban the damn card and retrain a nerfed version, errataing is SO stupid. Gateway doesn't need an errata though, and if we're really that scared of FTKs (we're not, the deck can already do it very consistently and you're only searching 1 gateway per turn anyways, even if you could run 3) I think it makes far more sense to ban the enablers themselves, because Six Sams are not the only deck that these FTK enabler cards have historically been abused in. Their existence limits design space by nature.

[@yta5234]

I still firmly believe with Red-eyes, Konami should jave gone the way of how Odd-eyes was displayed at the last duel om the anime, i.e having Spell card that help turbo out all the Extra Deck Red-eyes. Create new Fusion, Synchro, XYZ, Ritual, Link that focus on having Red-eyes in the GY to be used as material that summon in the BP. Be bold Konami, stop ruining Red-eyes and favor that damn brick ass Blue-eyes

[@carstan62]

If you want reliable access to Black Metal Dragon... play Dragunity.

[@ryuhayabusa6651]

Man i just want a ninja searcher

[@luispalacios8423]

Komoney only needs to change red-eyes baby dragon's effect from "when it's destroyed by battle" to "when this card leaves the field" and make it so it can be special summoned if there are no other monsters or only dark/red-eyes monsters. With those effects red-eyes gains another starter that can search for black metal dragon or another lvl 1 dragon. If they want to make it even better, they can change that part that says special summon a lvl 7 or lower red-eyes monster from the deck to special summon from the deck, gy or hand. But that's all red-eyes needs.

[@OmniKing_17]

That card! Was such a flop and it’s so upsetting. It’s so close to being good. And it would have been so awesome if were since it called back to baby dragon another Joey card.

[@RedTheWeeb]

@@luispalacios8423 no we just need a card that equips baby to gearfried. Pop baby grab BMD. Equip BMD revive baby-> search redmd and link baby into striker/spirit-> continue on and now you have BMD combo with an extra monster(gearfried) on board too

[@luispalacios8423]

@@OmniKing_17 For real, that card is the key to unlocking Red-Eyes' potential. Being able to special summon it also saves the normal summon for Black Metal Dragon. And it's perfect because it's a Joey reference to the original Baby Dragon and also shows that it might be weak, but has the potential to turn into anything. It fits like a glove with the whole concept of Red-Eyes.

[@maremare9366]

Where is the custom banlist tournament where we banned 300 cards?

[@OmniKing_17]

Now, we need the red-eyes link 1. We get that, and we’re talking.

[@knessy6446]

More so it needs cards that combo well with Red Eyes insight

[@fryenchill2817]

It’s a dragon deck, it has 2 link 1s already (and a 3rd one on the banlist)

[@OmniKing_17]

@ right. Issue is in red-eyes they are essentially vanilla’s

[@OmniKing_17]

Blue-eyes now has a link 1 which can +1.. we need that

[@ne0w01f3]

K9 definitely a beast/beastwarrior xyz archetype....I smell a drident unban if so

[@JevonSwallow]

I don’t need them to be a viable solo deck I just want them to be good enough to be included in my Dlink deck

[@jodiexalazar2]

Guys how many years is a pic good for? Jesus Christ

[@nomnom2407]

Nah, we need more support.

[@davecatss6652]

aintnoway they actually made cupsmith

[@thepieguyinthesky2363]

10:09 may we please execute insurrextion16?

[@the5thdoctor]

Gateway should have been put to 2 in the latest format but konami did not come through for six sam players. There is no reason why after all these years it is still at 1.

[@beancel]

Sometimes I wish yugioh was more willing to errata bad cards to be good. black stone and baby dragon could be absolutely cracked if their effects activated upon being sent to the gy In general

[@gungnir382]

I play Red Eyes Bystial Primite and it is a cool Deck that is not so bad to be Honest.

[@miroheartech4231]

F U R R Y W A I F U

[@roxas4587]

AWOOOOOOOOOOGA

[@plabcentral630]

2 dragoon

[@RedTheWeeb]

Guys metalmorph is not a new direction. Metalmorph has been tied to red-eyes since 1999 this is just a deck that is retraining that idea its not that difficult to understand holy shit. Every few years red-eyes gets more metal based cards: 1999 metalmorph and RE black metal dragon -> 2004/2010 darkness metal/metal plus(for gx anime) then actual irl darkness metal-> 2015: black metal dragon, flare metal dragon-> 2017:the entire joey wave was metal references baby equip is metalmorph stat buff, gearfried name is metal in jp, slash dragon equip buff is metal and its stats are metal. -> 2024/2025 fullmetal and max metalmorph is a retrain of 1999 / metal claw is a reference to dragon nails aka the first equip used on red eyes ever. All of this beats every other identity of red-eyes such as fusion and burn. Metalmorph does what? Its an equip based support that also includes burn

[@BlackBeartic229]

Certainly it ain't THAT deep. Either way. It just means they should go all in on metalmorph for RE from here on out. No more dogshit Slash Dragon gimmick, no more worthless Geminis

[@RedTheWeeb]

@BlackBeartic229 slash is metal... Gemini is normal... Normal has been part of the deck since 1999 too

[@BlackBeartic229]

@RedTheWeeb And they are both dogshit lol. Slash Dragon embarrassingly so and the Gemini is bad just cuz it's a Gemini. It's actually worse than BASE RE now because of primite. I get that it fits Joey's theme but that doesn't excuse how bad they are. These metalmorph cards are practically the best RE has ever gotten

[@RedTheWeeb]

@@BlackBeartic229 Gemini really should have base normal as support honestly it's kinda shit its treated as worse effects all the time Konami should rewrite that However slash is fine it's not the best but it was still a good card at it's release and can be good in certain builds it can shine in such as adventure

[@BlackBeartic229]

@@RedTheWeeb I feel Slash would be better if Red Eyes Fusion wasn't such a god awful card. A RE Fusion retrain that counts as RE Fusion in the Hand/Deck/GY would do wonders. Max Metalmorph/Flame Metalmorph already become equip cards and you could always splash in some warrior stuff for Metal Flame Swordsman (tho i believe we might be getting his base counterpart in the future as it wants a level 5+ warrior). They just need to lock in like they've done with the metalmorph stuff and I could see RE being pretty good at some point

[@RedTheWeeb]

Currently in tcg(including suda/alin) there are many routes to get to BMD 1. Opening BMD 2. Small world(especially in a primite build cuz beryl bridges ANYTHING) 3. One for one 4. Any way to get to 2 level 7 dragons without a NS (primite roar/black meteor/noctovison/primite lordly lode/metal claw+set) into the new white dragon ruler xyz send tempest grab bmd. 5. Black stone of legend + any bystial into atum special BMD.

[@spackmoose6002]

Black full metal searchable off melody

[@christopherrutterford5829]

Question. Are you going to take the time to address the back lash to your head in the clouds response to the midcore player, or are we burying our head in the sand?

[@STEPHxCA]

Why should he?

[@LionheartBeatz]

The only time i'd put a red eyes into my deck is to fusion summon dragoon :)