Jotul 602 burn test comparison

[@bv3bv334]

Top effort there, mate. Making it all scientific with the digi thermo. Nice one. 👍

[@faronf2006]

So glad that Jotul is still making this little stove . Think I will be looking at purchasing on in 2023 .

[@Benni-lm4kt]

Really good video and cutting! Thanks for your work. Probably it really needs to be filled with more wood at the beginning to start a good and clean burning process, like you also mentioned in the video.

[@black_dog_barks]

If you read the instructions for installation I am sure you will see a min length of 15 feet of stove pipe/ chimney .... the test proves they both burn the same with a smoldering fire due to poor draft.

[@TheDakdoc]

These stoves require a minimum of 15’ of chimney to create a proper draft. That may have affected the results and the excess smoke from the newer one.

[@offgridsimplicity]

Yes that’s correct. I am running both stoves in a couple of my cabins and my point is confirmed that both stoves are very compatible in performance.

[@davidt6849]

I have a 2020 602 eco, I notice the design comes to work when she is really hot and when there is a significant draft established. The inside looks different from your 2022, different air inlets and no vent in the front but a lever on the bottom When it's working as designed its more like looking at a gas burner than a woodstove and zero visible smoke from the stack.

[@oldsteamguy]

Thanks, good video. What would be extra cool would be a pyrex cook top so you could observe the combustion at the fins.

[@Steven-qy4wj]

now there is the Jøtul 602 V3. can you please do the burn test

[@offgridsimplicity]

I have not seen that version yet. It is available in the U.S. and seems to pass the latest emissions regulations. Right now I don’t have a need for another small wood stove, but when I do I will test it.

[@bryanjferrer]

cutest and nicest little stove ever in my opinion

[@offgridsimplicity]

Agreed 👍

[@glebs.9426]

Hi, thanks for the interesting test, I noticed the handle if door of the 1995 was not completely tightened , czn this be the reason for the difference in burning?

[@stihl3826]

Either would be fine. Prob the best wood stove known to mankind. Nicknamed the cigar stove based on front to back draw and no one has bettered the design yet.

[@paulgush]

I wonder if the new one was still off-gassing? I know they do give off smoke, even from the outside, for the first few burns

[@offgridsimplicity]

Yeah, that is a possibility.

[@jackle842000]

Anyone know how to identify wood after it's already dried and cut into firewood? Is it easy to tell hickory vs oak etc

[@mijalic1]

Great presentation. thank you for your time and effort to make this video and share it with us. greetings from Croatia.

[@SaintJames40]

Great video. I will be using a 2022 602 for my cabin this winter.

[@ae5498]

You need at least 4 meter stove pipe to get good draft

[@Jacksea]

I’m really surprised. I just bought a jotul 602 eco and the combustion chamber is really different from both yours

[@Jacksea]

@@offgridsimplicity what's the difference about working? thank you

[@Jacksea]

​@@offgridsimplicity thank you! I found that it was difficult to start the fire without smoke from the air intake below the stove (fully open). The best option I tried now, is to start a fire with big flame, the front door partially open, the air intake closed. When the chimney is warmer, I close the door and open the air intake and I regulate it. Anyway I didn't solved completely the smoke at the start.

[@Dave93b]

You're not going to get any useful data from running a stove with such a short chimney. The chimney is the engine which keeps the stove working, it draws fresh air from outside to support the combustion. Minimum lenght is usually 3 meters, yet maybe you could get away with just a couple meters of straight pipe for such an experiment, but definitely not less.

[@terryfinley7760]

So, you bought the newer stove just because of the EPA rating? I would like to see a test done with the ECO version which apparently has come out now. Any thoughts?

[@offgridsimplicity]

I needed a new wood stove and here in the U.S. you can only get the newer EPA compliant versions. There is no ECO model available in the U.S. as of this time.

[@terryfinley7760]

@@offgridsimplicity OK. I had seen a video on the ECO and didn't know it was location specific in distribution. I own a 602 that I have not used yet. I have a Black Bear, a CB600, and a FC3B I think it is. I love Jotul!

[@McConnachy]

Interesting in North America you dont have the new 602 ECO and that would be a hugely interesting test. I'm in Europe (Scotland) and have the clean burn version from 2015 (equivalent to your 2022 602 model) and also purchased the last remaining stock of the old 602 N for a holiday cabin, in early 2022 (equivalent to your 1995 model). I havent done any tests, but the impression I have is the 602 CB is cleaner, but then its 2 different buildings with different chimney stacks and one is high on a hill the other lower down in a dip. I'm very interested in the new ECO model, you can see it on any Jotul European site

[@munckmb]

I have a Jotul 602 Ecodesign 2022. It has a different air intake. I wonder if this is a European / US market difference?

[@faronf2006]

@@offgridsimplicity I will have to check to see if the Jotul 602 eco is available in Canada 🇨🇦

[@SweeetJohnny]

Mine just arrived (Croatia - Europe) so take a look at: kzbin.info/www/bejne/goumoYqma5KsbtU

[@wobdeehomestead]

Nice experiment but maybe as you stated in other comments add chimney length and I’d also use more wood. This will get the stove temps up to the needed temp for secondary combustion. Still both stoves are very clean burning and you’d probably not notice a difference in GPH in the real world.

[@emdi6644]

Same experience here. Jotul 602 is disappointment. My impression is, wood is not getting enough air. A lot of smoke.

[@McConnachy]

The 602 is a huge success in my experience, I have had 602's since 1988 and have great burn times, ease of use, great heat output. Sometimes there are other issues, like how the stove is fitted, chimney design, house situation (is it in a dip, with now wind) and so on. I always fit steel flue chimney liners, they ensure safety and a good seal and a good pull on the smoke

[@craykewindsor2634]

Way to put that video together and collate the data.

[@LiveFreeOrRIP]

I have a White 602 in my cabin. I think mines a 2002. The burn pot might have extra bricks or something because your box looks bigger then mine and My burn times are 4 hours max.... With oak or maple... Old 602.... Yea I found my baby took me 6 months and got lucky at a random estate sale lol..

[@glynnmitchell9253]

A great video. It would be interesting to see what would happen if you could prop the doors open at first to get the fires up in temperature quickly as would be normal and the adding a second compliment of wood to see the stoves running as they are designed. That would be interesting to see if the new design increases a cleaner, hotter or longer burn. But this was also a very helpful video. Thanks

[@LG-oy6kb]

Is this 1995 Jotul a 602 cb?

[@LG-oy6kb]

@@offgridsimplicity oh, ok. I'm looking at one and the back label actually says "CB", but the front just says Jotul N

[@koerttijdens1234]

Newer stove always hotter, I think Dont know why, maybe inside not yet covered with ash and stuf

[@keithlynce8661]

We are putting a 602 in our new demo cabins.

[@McConnachy]

I rent out a cabin, and there was only one choice of stove on the market, Jotul 602, of any era, this stove very easy to use, so when there are people of little fire experience, there shouldn't be too many issues!

[@michaela7334]

I mean, nice effort, but not a good comparison. Neither stove had nearly enough wood, and both were pretty much smoldering the whole time. Air was wide open, no secondary burn at all, neither made it up to temperature. Both chimneys were way short, so you didn't get any kind of draft going.

[@offgridsimplicity]

I am looking forward to your comparison video.

[@DrNolamike]

@@offgridsimplicity LOL, sorry that your feelings are so easily hurt by valid criticism. Send me a couple of stoves and I'll be happy to do it correctly. You basically showed that it's possible to make some smoldering fires in 2 different stoves. In all seriousness, what do you think you proved here?

[@danmurphy6541]

Great vid thanks

[@mmabbs]

With out the min chimney height spec its not a valid test., I believe its 14-16'

[@laurier3348]

Dis is amazing

[@mondocaminospazzacaminofum1096]

ottimo video

[@stefangeernaert1970]

Here in Belgium, we have a newer model! With a slider at the bottom to regulate the air. This one is Ecodesign. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mp7Vmo1-etxqaq8

[@vplph]

Scandinavians are good at marketing and selfpromotion...

[@offgridsimplicity]

They make darn good wood stoves : )

[@Yokopoz]

Sono state accese male

[@Yokopoz]

@@offgridsimplicity I didn't want to be rude, but you can't see it burning, I would put more small wood and leave the door ajar until it crackles and flames well