JOYO Atmosphere VS M-VAVE Mini Universe // Comparison [NO TALK / ONLY TONES]

[@alistairfletcher6187]

Came for the pedals, stayed for the vibe, it calms my cats

[@PerryFrank]

Same for my cats 😻

[@emin7540]

Regarding the M-Vave foot switch pop sound, There is a corrected model out and you can identify it by the word "Bypass" by the stomp switch where the one with the issue had the words "True bypass".

[@krambassist751]

Thank you for this bro

[@kenkwiatkowski2710]

Is this valid?

[@leonardobenklin7340]

Verdade existe esse modelo corrigido BYPASS acabei de adquirir um o som e top.

[@candid2717]

Excellent video. Everything is shown in such detail! How we lack such reviews.

[@PerryFrank]

Thank you 🙏

[@PipeCat1965]

Great comparison, simple and fair. Love them both, but I think the MU has a bit more ambience to my ear. Although, I have other Joyo pedals and they are all incredible sounding and durable. Tough choice - buy both!

[@PerryFrank]

Thank you very much 🙏 yes they're both good and cheap

[@ambiencekeys5100]

I think also that the MU does make a Little bit more ambience

[@vanmahler6282]

I have both, and the Atmosphere feels a little more thick than the Universe but this have more parameters and long sounds... great review

[@LonelyRavenProductio]

I really enjoy these simple, yet thorough pedal videos! Subscribed!

[@PerryFrank]

Thank you 🙏

[@ianreforma1418]

They are great together for ambient, I have both. I use joyo atmosphere for shimmer then MU for cloud. Its heaven bro

[@PerryFrank]

I agree, they're both a good value for money

[@CZPavel-c1p]

Good evening dear friend, I have the effect from Joyo - JOYO Atmosphere in my collection, I like it, it is a very good effect considering the price and control options (generally the whole R series). The second effect of the M-VAVE Mini Universe seems to me to be very pleasant, high quality, even including the +++ sound. I wish you well before midnight (our time). Greetings Pavel CZ.👍👍👍

[@PerryFrank]

Thank you very much 🙏 both are good value for money Greetings from Sardinia 🙏

[@DimaVnya]

Пицца🎉

[@pchykins6680]

BEWARE with the M-Vave Mini Universe though, it might be half the price of Joyo Atmosphere but there will be a foot switch issue for Mini Universe. It makes a very loud "crushing rocks" sound when you switch it on/off. Trust me, it's annoying! Also, it has no "Trail" feature - that means, the effects will cut off the moment you switch the pedal off.

[@irfanfauziladzim1036]

do you know how to fix both m-vave issues?

[@cultofwedge1998]

Mine does the footswitch bump. Fine for studio use, but might be iffy live. Great noises though!

[@level_7zxa737]

​@@irfanfauziladzim1036you have to open the pedal and put on a capacitor, there are some videos and info in Internet abt it

[@smartgadgets9347]

​@@irfanfauziladzim1036 You need to put 2500k resistor on the foot switch to solve the issue right?

[@emin7540]

That issue has been fixed! There is a corrected model out and you can identify it by the word "Bypass" by the stomp switch where the one with the issue had the words "True bypass".

[@NickKizirnis]

I tried a mini universe but it was very noisy and it sounded like my amp was blowing up whenever I touched the foot switch. I saw the workaround but ehhh … maybe I should give the Joyo a chance? I appreciate you demonstrating these … and really enjoying your music too

[@PerryFrank]

Thank you very much 🙏 Can I ask you how did you power the pedal? With usb or ordinary input?

[@markharwood7573]

The Joyo is excellent. I have had none of the noise problems that some people have reported from the M-Vave. Update: after a few hours mine developed different problems. Four of them. It is unusable.

[@MichaelDooleyProject]

I experience noise problems with the mini universe at first, but it did not work when being powered with my daisychain, I used a separate power supply to the mini universe, and it sounds amazing.

[@markharwood7573]

@@MichaelDooleyProject It is sometimes strange how a unit will not share a power supply. My MEL9 needs its own PSU, even though the multi-supply on that board is more than adequate. Daisy chains are fairly likely to cause problems and you are lucky that you can use yours. I shall never try one again.

[@j3ffn4v4rr0]

Any of you guys who like the M-Vave, what is up with specifically the loud sound when you engage the footswitch? Is that what goes away when you use a dedicated power supply? That's the one thing I heard about the Mini Uni that would make me say "no way".

[@philp2841]

Thanks so much. Very helpful!

[@PerryFrank]

🙏🙏

[@andrewstanworth529]

Oh I'm so buying that mini universe! Thank you for demo. Your guitar playing is 100% more tasteful & enjoyable than some stuff I've heard demoing that pedal!!

[@BurgersforBreakfast127]

Did you get it? If so, how are you enjoying the POP when you engage it? I really liked mine, lotsa ambient fun and knobtweaking... but couldn't get past the pop BS so it came off the board.

[@level_7zxa737]

​@@BurgersforBreakfast127just open the pedal and weld it a capacitor, it makes the pop disapear, there are videos and info about it

[@BurgersforBreakfast127]

@@level_7zxa737 Thanks. I saw the vids and fixes online. Eventually I'll correct it, but I'm not a solder guru. I just found an isolated power supply that eliminated the pop and threw it on board #2..

[@Quinceps]

@@level_7zxa737Not everyone is Bulma bro 😂

[@level_7zxa737]

@@Quinceps is not about to be "bulma", don't be lazy, just weld 2 transistors, it isn't a NASA rocket

[@gae7081]

Comparazione azzeccatissima, grazie!

[@PerryFrank]

🙏🙏🙏

[@gae7081]

@@PerryFrank ciao, hai mai provato gli electro harmonix? L'ocean 12 è molto bello.

[@gae7081]

@@PerryFrank avevo preso lo slö ma lo sto rimandando indietro, non mi ha impressionato più di tanto.

[@Soccernz007]

I'd get the M-Vave for the cloud, bloom, swell functions only. I haven't seen any other pedal with these functions. Looking forward to trying these functions. Will let you know!

[@PerryFrank]

Two very good pedals

[@joemom1012]

the mini is best reverb for the money 31£ joyo 70£ however if you live gig and want it on your board there are unwanted noises you cant seem to fix when linking up with some power hungry pedals great for practice or playing direct to sound interface in studio no amp

[@aviatedviewssound4798]

@@joemom1012 I think it was made to record music instead of being used for live gig.

[@levinascimento7361]

@soccernz007 I was thinking the same thing. How did you go with the pedal? Enjoying so far?

[@markharwood7573]

I have both. The Joyo is on my main board and is always on. It's one of the best FX purchases I have ever made. I bought the MU for the shimmer and use a volume pedal on it. What a sound that is. Both units are excellent value for money. I am happy to gig the Joyo but the M-Vave generally stays at home, as it does seem a little flimsy. Update: during its few hours of use the MU developed four faults, one of which makes it unusable. It's a shame. The sound was fantastic. A robust version of this unit would be great. I have a Hall of Fame 2 that will replace it. The Joyo Atmosphere remains my favourite reverb.

[@PerryFrank]

🔥🔥🔥

[@aviatedviewssound4798]

Have you tried buying a replacement kit for it or replacing the faulty parts?

[@markharwood7573]

@@aviatedviewssound4798 No, I just never got around to doing anything about it. I now use a Hall of Fame 2 on the third board instead.

[@robertstephens2148]

Received my joyo yesterday and love it

[@PerryFrank]

🔥🔥🔥

[@peteytwofinger]

thanks for the demo - the one i am waiting for a demo of is the Rowin LN-318 TOP Guitar Booster Pedal please do a demo of this you will be the first one to do it

[@cultofwedge1998]

I got a M-Vave yesterday as I got gifted a late friends pedals, it's surprisingly good, but I wouldn't perhaps use it on a gigging board as it's probably dubious build quality, and there's a bump when you engage it. Sound wise it's amazing, with other pedals it almost turned the guitar into a synth. Perfect for studio I'd say.

[@PerryFrank]

Yes, I've read about the problem when engaging the pedal. Luckily this one is ok, but I can imagine that in a live performance that bump is very bad to hear. All I can say is that I don't use it in a live situation, I prefer other pedals.

[@MichaelDooleyProject]

I was able to get the mini universe at a super low price and it is one of my favorite pedals to make sounds with now. It just stays at home, so hopefully it will remain in working order. I am thinking about getting another one just to have on hand in case this one breaks 😂 it does seem a bit flimsy. Especially the knobs.

[@aviatedviewssound4798]

The thing that is valuable about this pedal is that the sounds are pretty unique, but I fear that they will soon be discontinued, and those who haven't had time to buy one will never get these sounds.

[@Artificial_Ghost]

The one thing the joyo has the upper hand with is simplicity. The M-Vave has a bit of option parallelism with the controls as they can differentiate from setting to setting so dependent on which setting you have it on they can differentiate immensely

[@CiberTuxSP]

Both are great pedals! To start i recommend the mini universe because of the low price 😊

[@PerryFrank]

🔥🔥

[@jasonmercado]

I bought 3 mini universe stacking all 3 always on pedal, price wise mini universe wins, build quality the joyo wins, btw what patch cable are you using here Perry? Always a fan of ur vids since the pandemic.

[@PerryFrank]

Thank you very much 🙏 I use ebs patch cables

[@ridge13]

For me, why choose when you can buy both? They're not as expensive as the Big Sky or Big Sky MX. The only thing to consider is the space on your pedal board. I still have pretty much a lot of space and like my dirt pedals, would like to stack them.

[@kenkwiatkowski2710]

what power supply do you use on the m vave? Thanks

[@PerryFrank]

I often use the Caline Power or the Asmuse or the Lekato, or if I'm using just that pedal the strymon one

[@ToddTheJoker]

I had the JOYO Atmosphere and while it sounded ok, whenever it was switched on, it would lower my signal and everything I tried, including buffers etc, did not fix the issue..it was very annoying and unusable at home or live! I sold it an dam now getting the Mini-Universe...we will see how that works?

[@icyurchins]

howd it go?

[@ToddTheJoker]

@@icyurchins it sucks...needs its own dedicated power to stop a high pitch squeal

[@tdemask]

I know the feeling. The UA Dream 65 does the same thing. Many power hungry dsp based pedals require their own isolated power supply.

[@ToddTheJoker]

@@tdemask Exactly, I had to provide the Mvave Mini Universe with its own power supply and it fixed the issue.

[@Madaoinside24]

the switch of mini universe is it fix in latest release?

[@PerryFrank]

I don't know

[@airwolfmusic]

Thank you for this great comparison video featuring just the sound and the instruments 👍🏻 • Definitely the Mini Universe is the clear winner here. It features very pleasant frequencies at most settings. • The Joyo is nice but not as "sweet" sounding as its cheaper counterpart. Joyo tends to sound too metallic when tone knob is open clockwise, it resonates too much for my ears (tiring in the long run). ✅ I just bought 2 x Mini Universes, I have now a magnificent and versatile stereo reverb for less than €70 (less than the cost of just one Joyo Athmosphere). ❤ That's using money wisely with no compromise in sound quality, which is always the first to be looked at. 📽️ [I'll make a video with the stereo setup when is ready, feel free to follow my channel, a bunch of stuff is in the pipeline. coming in next months] ❓QUESTION: are you using an EHX Attack Decay pedal out of camera?

[@PerryFrank]

Thank you very much 🙏 No extra pedals are used in this video. The swells you hear are made with the volume knob of the guitar

[@albram3452]

Como tirar o ruido, o meu M-vave tem muito ruido

[@apricotmighty3229]

Hello! 300ma isolated psu can help. This pedal works better with 12v power.

[@albram3452]

@@apricotmighty3229 Mais nele estar marcando 9v DC, Estou usando a fonte Movall; Número do modelo MPS-01. Se usar 12v será que pode queimar?

[@JeSiieeL]

@@albram3452 Tem que ser 9V mesmo! Só que tem que utilizar fonte boa regulada. Dependedo da fonte de 9v gera ruido mesmo. Se utilizar 12v você pode queimar o pedal.

[@lionheart1321]

Sound quality? I like JOYO. It has no hissing noise. For budget options? I choose M-VAVE. If JOYO drops its price by below half, I'd buy one.

[@lejunctionopenmicnight5060]

M VAVE manke loud banging noise when button engaged, cannot be switched on during a performance really should be on all the time and used with and effect switch controller. also seems to have a high pitched wine.

[@klaydonasco4407]

Theres a fix tutorial on that popping sound on mini universe and its effective and easy in youtube

[@igor-mamaev]

i fixes the noise by using a separate power supply, the noise comes when you put the pedal it into daisy chain.

[@SilvioM_OFerreira]

I have a 50 years ear 😂, but I think ATMOSPHERE is a little bit smooth, or am I wrong? Great job, man. Thanks.

[@joemom1012]

atmosphere has a switch on back TRAIL function switch, this is for switching on, or off the Trail function. The trail allows the effect tone to fade out and sound much more natural between switching the pedal on and off. So you decide how you want it, you can opt for a natural fade, or fast cut off.

[@NS-qj8xj]

hmmm.... I already have the Cloudburst though....

[@PerryFrank]

If you have the Cloudburst you don't need these pedals

[@pabloflaviom99]

🔥🔥💙

[@PerryFrank]

🙏🙏

[@bigstick5278]

I get a wine noise from mine in my power block chain.

[@scottdwhite50]

Every setting on the MU sounds better to my ears...although I love Joyo pedals, this one sounds quite shrill and harsh.

[@PerryFrank]

I agree, it has warmer tones

[@jtf2dan]

Liking the sounds the Joyo makes...costs a little more, but you get what you pay for.

[@PerryFrank]

Yeah, Joyo is a bit better

[@rollingedges9469]

I just took the mini universe apart they are not rehousable, super tiny parts

[@assembleiadedeusdesaopaulo-sp.]

Excepcional!

[@PerryFrank]

🙏🙏🙏

[@shabbee]

The MU is a steal from Aliexpress, under £20! How???

[@lyag28tv83]

Mvave the best. But the poping tsssk

[@oscarjaygemperoso6744]

Solder 220k ohms resistor and you will be fine💅🏻

[@neilcarlonolasco1813]

​@@oscarjaygemperoso6744 my church mate did this and the popping was gone

[@stringer.]

Nice job 😢

[@PerryFrank]

🙏🙏🙏

[@brianpark492]

You get what you pay for.I own Joyo and M-vave. M-vave have squealing noises and feedback issues. MY OPINION. Joyo make great stuff.

[@brianpark492]

That being said I own the joyo Maximum overdrive and put it side by side with the Ibanez TS. Pretty close I gotta say! The thing with any of these China products you need a noise gate. I own a Donner Noise killer mini pedal and it does the job.👍

[@joemom1012]

you cant compare 30£ to 80£ and 80£ for a pedal you want it to at least have stereo or right left in and out Atmosphere 80£ universe 30£ you realy cant get much at all in reverb for 30£ so its best for 30£ range now the joyo is priced with Zoom MS-70CDR Guitar Effects Pedal chorus delay reverb or FLAMMA FS02 Reverb Guitar Pedal Stereo 74£ black country reverb or fender reverb many others in 80£ price range to compare atmosphere to but you cant compare it to 30£ and the atmosphere falls short in that price range its not stereo like some others in that price range

[@pacman_pol_pl_polska]

This video is a proof that indeed you can compare these two pedals. Wild!

[@joemom1012]

@@pacman_pol_pl_polska yes but one cost 80£ one cost 30£ you cant compare as you cant compare a tight budget to a lavish budget

[@KStarDid]

Mini Universe : Great Atmosphere : horrible, not made for human ears !

[@felixjordanguitar]

the mini verse is very noisy

[@Gem-Ex]

Damn this playing is so boring I fell asleep at minute 3.34

[@PerryFrank]

Goodnight 🌃