JP Shaper Werner Gnigler talks us through the FlatWater boards

[@davemarch1811]

Love these type of videos thanks Ben

[@joaopaulocoimbra_YT]

Great video! I think it’s a great idea…you should do that kind of report for other brands 👌😉

[@JD-wf9rc]

GA / Tabou pls

[@donaldferguson3130]

Best explanatory video on board shapes I have ever seen. Thanks for that.

[@Wacoal34d]

another great board designer interview Ben. You ask the questions that we all want to know, whether the designer is willing to answer directly is another question. Your work on this channel is outstanding, we are lucky to have you.

[@danielklein1928]

Great video. Thanks Ben and Werner!

[@gastonbarouille767]

Great video!! I just love it! It's a great help to choose your next board! Thank you so much for bringing this kind of videos. Can't wait for next one! Other boards brand and sails too!

[@user-ui3em2ev1j]

Excellent video 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@markoconnor680]

Those descriptions of the changes/development of the Slalom boards in Windsurfing were excellent and precise. Having been a Windsurfer for almost 37 × years who'd also operated my own Windsurfing school I can see how much of an improvement and update of the slightest type can be of major benefit to the use of the boards and intensify the users abilities to perform the various actions.

[@fleetwoodmarine]

Ben great video Please do the interview with his FOIL Board designs! …always loved Werners boards, best combination of performance and fun to ride

[@campeon]

love this technical talking, thank you

[@Coco2-9]

Fun to see the new generation boards ! Got the 2007 Supersport 126l ! Sporty af when riding a little bit overpowered ! Love it !!!! Thanks for the video Ben ! 😁

[@deroux]

Great discussion!

[@kramshoej]

Really good and informative. I own multiple JPs including a SuperRide, and yes it does really cope well with chop!

[@alfordmick]

Definitely a candidate for the podcast !

[@henq]

I sill love my 116L *Air II* !

[@Windsurf254]

As a light weight rider who loves slalom gear. It's all about volume for me and not width. Another great video Ben

[@michelletran7852]

❤❤❤Love mine 109L and 119L Maria Ride

[@svenball5384]

excellent walk through. I like Werners comments where ll brands use pretty much the same scoop rocker line

[@pochron1105]

I love interviews with shapers. This is so refreshing after all the marketing nonsense we are targeted with.

[@alfordmick]

"width half plus a little bit" the BP formulae 😇

[@sharewavestv]

Moin Ben, Servus Werner

[@Team33Team33]

This guy could be here in 50 years time still talking about "fine tuning" ..... It's been going on for so long now there is NOTHING new under the sun. Ben is right. Wide, thick, short = early planing. They took it to extremes and are working their way back to "normal" boards again. UNTIL somebody decides that Wide, Thick and Short is THE THING again. There are many older bards out there that are just as good and faster than the current production boards. Every year production has to change a colour or something just for marketing purposes so they can persuade people it's "new". LOL. But people fall for it, especially the young guns.

[@windfoil1000]

I'm afraid I have to disagree. As he said, the smallest changes make for big differences. Balancing all of those parameters into an effective whole is an art. The boards I've seen in the last year or two seem to be more refined than ever. Changes in sails play a large part in board design so as sails keep improving boards have to keep up to get the max out of them. Hype is certainly a drag but when the gear lives up to claims it isn't hype, it's awesome.

[@Team33Team33]

@@windfoil1000 And you don't think that everything has been tried in the last 50 years of development ? LOL. If the "hype" works for you then 'So be it'. You are exactly what the market is aiming at.

[@windfoil1000]

@Team33Team33 Yeah, except for the unending disposable income part. It's always something...

[@Team33Team33]

@@windfoil1000 Sails are the same. They developed cambers, and then double sided very effective sails, but as far as they are efficient, are they worth it ? Maybe at the world cup level, but they are actually reverting back to no cam or max 3 cam sails for ease of use. It's like owning a Porsche GTS R3. WOW. But can you actually drive it ??? Same with these boards and sails. I use what I feel is best for me / and is often better than new boards and sails. AHD NT98 - Honeycomb Nomex & Carbon, AirInside tech. Same as Patrick boards has licensed out from AirInside. I have a slalom AirInside a Drops Honeycomb Nomex Carbon speed board and I also have an old mistral superlight to have fun on. All these boards are being produced under one or another form now. The Windsurfer LT is the equivalent of the Mistral Superlight only the original superlight is far superior. The other boards: See PatrickBoards. It's like having a quiver of them. I enjoy them. I know that I am NOT world class level but that if I can get them going, I will probably be faster than anything currently for sale, or at least AS fast.

[@guillogabica]

[@rcggijzen]

So, the main result of all the R&D work on the new slalom board is ..... less paint?!? And people still buy it? Amazing. I find it hard to believe irregular small details, like in the jagged cutouts at the bottom, or the zig-zag trailing edge of certain sails, or optimal. In flow dynamics, it doesn't make sense that something like that is t he best overall solution.

[@henrikhenriksson9004]

Black bottom super hot in the sunlight…..why?

[@thegibbonisreal]

You don't wipe properly?

[@Nawona]

@@thegibbonisreal 😂

[@windfoil1000]

Paint over the black carbon would add weight so keeping it out of the sun would be what you gotta do if you want the lightest possible board, I guess.

[@henrikhenriksson9004]

@@thegibbonisreal I said black! Not Brown

[@reiry429]

Was hier auch super bei den Slalom Board ERKLÄRUNG zu sehen ist, die Wirkung der Cutouts hat bis her keiner richtig verstanden außer evtl. Starboard und FMX 😂 Meister Gingler eh nicht mit seinem Trai and Error shape Ansatz manman😂