Joe Rogan on Sovereign Citizens and Tax Protestors

[@ShadowAkatora]

Am I being detained?! Jamie, pull up the articles of confederation.

[@hell_pike9150]

ShadowAkatora this comment is so underrated

[@HablaCarnage63]

True dat. The Constitution is actually a counterrevolutionary document by monarchists who simply wanted to pick a different monarch.

[@HablaCarnage63]

dassaer1980 Some, like Hamilton, thought Washington. At one point, elected to a life term. Although I’m sure he would have volunteered himself if he thought he could win.

[@ohiostin]

@@HablaCarnage63 Articles of Confederation!!!! The US Constitution was Jews overthrowing the monarchy for their theocracy.

[@thefloridamanofytcomments5264]

You forgot Black’s Law Dictionary and a woman just screaming at the top of her lungs as the glass breaks and the taser fires up 😂

[@bobbyblazes1]

"So how's Sober October Joe?". -Joe *puts on spaceman suit. "Why do you ask?"

[@hanshotfirst2363]

Someone's gonna be doing a lot of classes to make up for this!

[@user-ws1ob2hs5s]

Who else scrolls through the comments while listening to them talk?

[@wardkdouglas]

Ummm who the fuck doesn't

[@Dontbustthecrust]

Is there another way to watch a youtube video?

[@topsey_kretts]

@@dnlxl 😘

[@markymark1072]

Everybody !

[@topsey_kretts]

@@markymark1072 💚

[@MrJoebrooklyn1969]

The worst tax is property tax.

[@tolfan4438]

My property tax isn't much, it's the school tax when I don't even have kids that is a couple grand for something I don't own or use.

[@Yarmox]

A free nation should never have property tax

[@hutchracing4680]

How dare you teach people to responsibly handle firearms in a safe and controlled manner Joe Rogan.

[@MMMM-sm2rm]

He's Alt-Right Rogan.

[@Bl00DmixedWithPoison]

Yeah! Who the hell do you think you are to safely teach people to use firearms Joe "I can use a gun" Rogan? XD

[@al-bot1094]

Think of the CHILDREN!!!

[@Bl00DmixedWithPoison]

@@al-bot1094 if you have children, you should teach them what firearm/ firearms are, why it's important not to play with them and they should always be locked up in a gun safe. You shouting out what about the children does not make any sense. Of course there are retards that don't care about the safety of their children. THINK ABOUT OUR CONSTITUTION!!!!

[@thecloneguyz]

@@al-bot1094 you can teach kids everything you want about guns that you can never teach them the emotional discipline that's needed or that takes years to acquire

[@240pixel]

Homeless people on the streets, poo and aids everywhere but at least they banned plastic straws.

[@AlexanderSimic]

Free plastic needles for the homeless tho. Sorry kiddos no plastic for you until u hit the needle

[@smilessantana2049]

Yup soo much progress. Funny they moved from plastic to paper when we could just like.. not use straws..

[@agent_exodus]

240pixel priorities..

[@jerryboics9550]

@@smilessantana2049 lol exactly... We aren't all 5 year olds.. Who the hell uses a straw but small children

[@abrakadabra9033]

And plastic bags cost money and are reusable and they are thicker and most people dont reuse em lmao

[@clifflong7944]

Wages have gone up 15% housing has gone up 300%

[@sethrich5998]

Cliff Long Yup. Moved out of Seattle for that reason. And I’m an engineer. Even higher paid workers are seeing diminishing quality of life in these areas.

[@christianmorgan4225]

Up 15% since when and where?

[@kewan2045]

Christian Morgan You can go to department of labor for income and easy to see avg cost for homes for last few decades. Part of this is because wage gap ceos reap larger salary relative to mid level employees.

[@christianmorgan4225]

@@kewan2045 I believe OP I was just asking. It's weird to cite statistics but not say when they're from.

[@Z3phlar]

I moved to Atlanta in 2010 a one bedroom in metro atl you could get 750/month. Now they're a grand or more even in ghetto ass shit apartments. It's seriously insane.

[@metalmadhouse5543]

They start talking about sovereign citizens and tax protestors at 7:10

[@RFacter]

Thank you!!!

[@brianbaker5687]

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[@MrCobozco]

This deserves a pin 😑

[@Reddit1872]

Yeah thank you. Garbage stuff the first 7 minutes

[@TomMSTie1138]

Thank you!

[@FORTHERECORD11777]

If you don't know your rights, you don't have any.

[@darthmalak190]

Wow, that is just so profound.

[@FORTHERECORD11777]

@@darthmalak190is that a sarcastic remark? I don't know one when I see one.

[@FORTHERECORD11777]

@@darthmalak190 if you do know your rights, them you know they are being crapped on every day.

[@darthmalak190]

@@FORTHERECORD11777 really? How so? Please, tell me more.

[@FORTHERECORD11777]

@@darthmalak190 I so glad your intrested, I've been waiting to tell someone about their rights!

[@haroldnokumar]

“Sovereign Citizen”, is an oxymoron. One cannot be a Sovereign AND a CITIZEN.

[@budmckinney6824]

Citizen is a voluntary servant, while the sovereign denotes authority. The two terms put together perfectly describes a police officer. The police officer is a citizen civil/uncivil servant who has some authority.

[@haroldnokumar]

Winston McKinney. I agree, to a point, lol. What about when the police officer is off duty? One cannot be a sovereign unless they comprehend the definition of the word, but da powleeece, whilst on duty, definitely resemble what you stated 👍

[@budmckinney6824]

@@haroldnokumar Off duty? I tried to clock out one time. That does not compute. I am now having a mental breakdown. That would be considered a government shutdown, would it not?

[@haroldnokumar]

Winston McKinney. I’m sorry, that sentence seems a bit nonsensical to me, lol. A citizen is a government employee, and owned by said government. That is a fact. Not my words, simply the truth. All I am saying is that people do not comprehend what the words they use every day actually mean. The word person, when broken down in original Latin, is this: Per=No and Son=life-AKA-DEAD. The word individual pertains to a non-living entity, and not a live man or woman. If one admits to being a resident, they enter a contract and acquiesce to being property of the federal United States. It gets worse. In 1933, “The New Deal” was implemented. At that point in time, there was no longer any lawful money, only federal reserve notes. This happened because our country was bankrupt and could not pay back our creditors. Because of this, all of the land and money and gold was seized by our creditors and held in reserve, hence, federal reserve notes. Because federal reserve notes are colorable money, blacks law dictionary definition=counterfeit, when we use federal reserve notes we are only discharging the debt and not paying it. Because we exercise that benefit from the federal United States, we are obligated and compelled to all resolutions, codes, statutes, proclamations, and legal laws of the United States Corporation. There is, however, remedy. Uniform commercial code 1-308 Reserves our rights not to be compelled or obligated to any contracts that we have been entered into that were not entered into knowingly, willingly, and intentionally. I have been down this rabbit hole for almost 2 years. It is very empowering!Did you know that we, live man and women...Have dominion over any government or fictitious entity in the world? Our founding fathers did not create a government that would push us around. It does so, only because we acquiesce with ignorance. Benjamin Franklin made a famous statement, “I’ve given you a republic, if you can keep it”. Well, we did not. How many people know that every police officer must have in their possession, their oath of office, foreign registration statement of 1938, and anti-bribery statement? It’s not our fault, however, it IS our problem. I urge everyone to read some publications. I’d start with, “The UCC Connection”. It won’t make you feel warm and fuzzy but, you will at least over stand what is, and has, been going on and being perpetrated upon us....for years and years. 👍💙

[@budmckinney6824]

@@haroldnokumar I am a statutory non-resident of the federal zone by way of death and rebirth. A non-citizen national of the Republic of Texas. The living flesh typing is that of my firstborn and only begotten son a slave to my spiritual guidance. My first fleshy meat-sack fell lifeless of lung cancer back in 1999. Love and respect from the one who was dead but now lives forever.

[@ClarkKulper]

7:10 starts speaking about sovereign citizens 👍

[@chuckd2072]

Irrel Avant thank god for you.

[@BxCortez2050]

Thank you

[@youtuberusernumber0013]

Thanks but if i can sit through 3 hours of my baby joe I can sit through 14 mins lol

[@SurvivalSpec]

Irrel Avant H E R O

[@charkswitlazers]

Hail Satan

[@20alphabet]

Can't believe people are making fun of those against taxes and road piracy.

[@ElectricalBeing]

People are more worried about getting entertained. Welcome To The Matrix

[@MrDLRu]

Yup, the doctrine used to conclude the firearms we have a right to own, ie, what are in common use, somehow doesn't work with the right to travel. So it's walking, horse or a horse drawn carriage in 2024 if one wants to exercise their right to travel...Yup, makes all the sense in the world.

[@Urace97]

@@MrDLRuEXACTLY How you half republic. You support one amendment but the other are idiocy??? Foh

[@breal884]

Yeah and they got the sovereign citizen facts ALL wrong. It's not even about taxes while driving is about FUNDAMENTAL RIGHTS OF TRAVEL. crazy shit we are all witnessing... it's like they vacuumed up ask the real people and replaced them with robots. EVEN JOE! NO JOE NO WHY! 😅crazy

[@anomalousknowname7686]

The laws are written by the wealthy and perpetuated by the power hungry upon the ignorant

[@k9cop]

I don't know what I find more crazy, the fact that Joe doesn't know what a sovereign citizen is or that he has never watched Live PD.

[@k1llersm0ke]

I don’t know.. for some reason I have a feeling he knows what a sovereign citizen is

[@ragnardanneskjold7259]

How can one be sovereign AND a citizen? I suppose it depends on what kind of citizen you are, but the only sovereign citizens I know of are the police.

[@Sandul666]

@Menahem Khasin Joe at least understood it's a war time tax, and we've never been officially out of war since ww2 😑

[@kamron_thurmond]

He's pretty busy I don't think he gets to watch a lot of TV.

[@paulnowayhosay1883]

He started the episode talking about he enjoys his hobby time. TV isn't a hobby, especially not live PD.

[@PatrickDrinksCoffee]

I can't stop focusing on his headphones being off-center.

[@MsDawnKeyballs]

It's just the pad you non observant fuck

[@thepoeticbutcher3370]

@@MsDawnKeyballs .....temper, temper

[@Guitarisforgrins]

@@MsDawnKeyballs It's not just the pad. One side is pulled out further than the other you dumb fuck.

[@al-bot1094]

You do realize that no one has a perfectly symmetrical head, right?

[@Bl00DmixedWithPoison]

Yes! Man it was bugging me.

[@anbuninjagod5507]

I like how joe expressed the importance of learning how to properly handle a weapon. Respect that

[@dalekillion1]

A “Sovereign Citizen” is an oxymoron. You can be “sovereign”, a man or woman living on the land and soil jurisdiction, not operating in international maritime commerce. Or you can be a “Citizen”, a “subject” and all capital lettered name, operating in admiralty maritime jurisdiction. Take your pick. To be sovereign you have to know what you’re doing if you want to challenge the police (policy enforcement agents) who work for a “for profit” corporation. They earn their living putting people in jail, most of them not having the slightest clue they’re doing anything wrong.

[@really1800]

Working to change my status to american state national. Bring back the power to the people

[@newsguy5241]

Hey Dale--How many times a day do people walk up to you and ask: "Can you be THAT stupid?" Based on your comment, I'm guessing about FOUR!

[@dalekillion1]

@@newsguy5241 You took time out of your day to say that, and you think I’m stupid.

[@aaronjones8156]

Yes, thank you for addressing this 👏

[@rik6T6]

14th ammendment, baby.

[@Floopy31]

"We fucked up la with our politics, better move somewhere nice and bring them with us"

[@jamesdean2043]

Democraps SUCK

[@Room-xi6nb]

@Zol z See, this is why every random thought that rattles around in everyone's brains, on occasion, does not necessarily need to be shared to the masses. I liked it better when people kept their weird thoughts private, and locked in a secret diary.

[@haliteextraction8487]

@@Room-xi6nb I hear China is great for those who like a little censorship.

[@stickboslightning]

@Zol z then that would mean certain states need to start pulling their weight and stop being a net negative

[@MyEgoMyThoughts]

Room 101 damn that was funny lmfao

[@AZ-kr6ff]

How can it be that Joe has never heard of a Sovereign Citizen?

[@bright-noise]

Yea I could’ve sworn he’s brought it up before

[@kamtroy2527]

Because the cops don't pull him over they know who he is. Let's be real, the cops are the sovereign citizens that think you have to bow to them and do as they say when they make up laws as they go.

[@thefloridamanofytcomments5264]

SC’s are genuinely mentally retarded people who have never suffered more in their lives than from watching some dumbass KZbin videos thinking they “practice the law” 😂

[@flymine1]

the term sovereign citizen is not correct you cant be both. you are sovereign or you are a citizen.

[@AZ-kr6ff]

@@flymine1 Thats an interesting point.

[@johnnyblazem5326]

Everyone should buy a gun

[@fugginchit1]

South Park

[@Tayk1987]

Lol. I thumbs up but I know what ya mean

[@kettlebellkyle311]

Everyone ?including people with serious mental health issues?

[@kevindube7096]

My neighbor has no mental illness but is a douche who wants to fight everyone even tho he won’t ever win. Him too? 🤷🏽‍♂️ P.S. he’s white & wears only wife-beaters even when it’s 40 degrees, with a du-rag that may be surgically attached to his scalp

[@BillBondsHasAPosse]

All my friends are dead

[@madilynnsma]

Sovereign citizen is an oxymoron. Sovereign = free Citizens = contracted to The language is so important, the system has it's own dictionaries... Black's law dictionary, Bouvier's law dictionary... Everything is contract with them. You all just consent.

[@PJM273]

Joe: Isn't that why the Jews moved to Florida ... (for low taxes)? Me: Spits out coffee ! Joe: (following on same sentence) ... isn't that why OJ moved there? Me: Oh ... Juice! ... OJ ... Phew

[@empoweryourself5403]

Lol too funny ^^^^

[@CobraFlows]

Its ok to say jews. its like saying whites, or blacks.get over yourself..

[@thefloridamanofytcomments5264]

Yo if that was his #cancelrogan save in mid thought, he’s a fucking legend

[@dutchvanderlinde3256]

But that is so true, Florida is just a Jews retirement home.

[@ocruadlaoic]

@@CobraFlows no u can't say jews , it's antisemitism to say "jew" or "jews" in any format other than overtly flattering.

[@markneal6297]

Texas Governor Rick Perry getting pulled over is a classic.

[@Jasondirt]

Now I gotta go watch.

[@puyearprod.929]

He isnt the governor anymore prissy boy

[@thedevilsaid6846]

Justin Puyear prissy boy? Lol Jesus Christ, RICK IS THAT YOU?

[@siberwolf33]

New Jersey Port Authority Commissioner Caren Turner video is the best. Cunt personified.

[@MCVengeance]

Joe and him talking about leisure time really hit me. I used to play in a band and play guitar but I never have time with my job. It really sucks. The guitar was my therapy and I just don’t have time due to 60 hour 5 day weeks and 6 hour a day weekends. Do the shit that makes you happy. Drives me crazy that I can’t anymore

[@sqlb3rn]

put your guitar out next to the couch

[@saulm2007]

You have to find time for your hobby or make ur hobby ur job.

[@jldive89diver87]

But you can! I understand what u mean, I work just as many hours and I still play mine plus do everything else I want to. If you really want to do somethin you will make time! I make sure I play atleast 30 mins every night. I’m self taught and still learning, u have 15-20 mins to spare at night or whenever u get off and get home I promise u!

[@MaxxTheHero]

Hope you can get back into it man 🤘 I agree with Segfavlt & Diver -

[@coffeehunter8742]

You can do it man. You and only you can make it happen. One decision at a time, one day at a time. Decide time for yourself. Write it down on paper, a calendar. Schedule a small portion of a day, every week, for You. You are worth it!

[@antibull4869]

There is a massive difference between those that know their rights and those that believe they are sovereign citizens. One is educated. One is ignorant.

[@Themusicbiz]

Exactly. Don’t let this video discourage you from learning laws. Start with Act 60

[@escovision1986]

If you Know, You Know. 💪

[@mickeywicked478]

Save it, Shillbo Baggins, there's an entire underground faction studying this stuff and some of them have already tapped into their accounts. Just you wait... XD

[@matthavens5481]

Smart man

[@TheForeignNationalBornNatural]

We discuss rights etc on my channel Sundays

[@curlybrownk9]

Listening to them casually talking about the homeless in L.A. and Cali. They live there, and the see it, all over and then, wonder why it's happening. We know why it's happening though.

[@JamesAnderson-hf4pi]

Yeah corrupt Democrat officials and Policies They're more worried about a spark arrestor on your lawn mower then the 60,000 homeless people shiting in your front yard

[@bruceday23]

Uhhh actually if you look back California offers to provide a bus ticket to almost anywhere in the United States for homeless people and not very many people took advantage of it....so it's there own fault they are in there situation like?

[@curlybrownk9]

@@bruceday23 A bus ticket to go be homeless somewhere else? So they get a bus ride out of it. The fact of the matter is, many of these homless have roots there, family and other things. Many parts of Cali have two classes, the very weathy, and the poor, and the middle class are leaving, because the taxes, regulations, and housing, are unbearble, and they are taking their skills and their businesses to other states. It's failing, and it's causing things to excelerate, everytime someone leaves, and is replaced by illeagals, and other low skilled workers, who migrate there to take advantage of the system. The whole thing is bankrupting the state. Plus they stopped enforcing vagrancey laws, and created santuary cities that are filled to capacity with people that can't find work. This inevitably spills into neighboring cities that don't wan't these people but are stuck with them.

[@bruceday23]

Yeah lmao right cause it's not better to be in a state where it costs 300 to 500 for a decent apartment rather than 2000k or more for a single bedroom apartment XD your right XD fucking straight Einstein thought process right there buddy

[@Room-xi6nb]

@@bruceday23 Shut the fuck up, dude. You don't have the brain capacity to be able to navigate all the nuance that comes to the homelessness situation. People like you think there's just a simple answer, and who ever doesn't do what YOU think they should, are obviously just lazy or dumb. The lazy and dumb one, is YOU. There are a million reasons why "they should just take the bus ticket" wouldn't work for most, and a million reasons why simply relocating is not the answer. I'd explain it to you, but I don't have hours to hold up flash cards, and speak to you in small words. You're going to have to figure this one out, yourself... although I know you won't bother. Never be proud to be stupid, bro.

[@Pksparty2112]

Cops let other cops off all the time. They do the same with nurses and fire fighters.

[@la_plata3588]

Drunk cop in Denver got let off couple weeks ago "hes working a hrad job"

[@SouthernArmory]

Joe went from being a statist to sympathizing with the libertarians about taxes in just a 2 min span of time

[@williammay4476]

It is possible to have different points of view that are non-conformist. I hate being in a room with hard headed radical Republicans or Democrats.

[@jcchrism]

Just because they put us in jail doesn't make them right Joe.

[@carloS-jy1fl]

Roe Jogan “sObEr oCtObEr” Also Joe Hogan - *wears space suit*

[@ricksanchez4813]

carloS he was tired of you assholes making fun of the how high he was the last podcasts

[@ricksanchez4813]

Bull Dozer ?

[@Truthiness10]

Bull Dozer eat shit. Bullshit dozer

[@Truthiness10]

Bull Dozer don’t act like you’re not some hipster pussy. Anyone who would make a “leave Britney alone” joke now has got to at least be on the spectrum.

[@Truthiness10]

Bull Dozer that’s what I just said

[@michaelstrong1662]

Jamie has to speak quickly or he’ll get in trouble.

[@levitezoe1804]

Lol

[@infiltr80r]

"It's not the Jamie Show, pipe down motherfucker" -- Joe Rogan.

[@CE-vd2px]

@@infiltr80r he forreal said that?

[@brianregan75]

Speak when spoken to young “powerful” Jaimie. Your only as powerful as I let you be. Joe has spoken.

[@chrisjones3649]

When Joe gets that game he needs to have his guests play and post best scores. Sort of like Top Gear.

[@ruse0131]

YES!!!

[@trevormoore6283]

Edit this and add everyone like so Joe sees

[@seandafny]

FUCK YEA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@E_tiBEAMERBOY]

Bruhhh I miss the old top gear😢

[@DarkLordofTheSith69]

Star in a reasonable priced car ...stoners with a musket

[@TurboManiacal]

Joe in 2019: “Do you want everyone driving around at 150mph wearing masks...” 2020: “I’ve got a great idea...”

[@warbler1984]

Who's driving 150mph now?

[@SC-gp7kt]

😂🤣😂🤣😂

[@enzoalec92]

@@warbler1984 Look up the all-time Cannonball Run record and when it was set. c:

[@TheCarver016]

California is oppressively expensive to live in.

[@Davanillaguerrilla]

The United States is.

[@psychoticdaizyproductions569]

Those raised there ate fucked. Most of the wealthy moved there. Especially san francisco. Sf is a horrible place where the rich look down at the soooo many poor from those fucking skyscrapers. Believe me, i know

[@bendover2425]

BradyH84 not the Midwest. We’re livin alright out here for 1/3 of the money

[@psychoticdaizyproductions569]

@Zol z exactly...

[@psychoticdaizyproductions569]

@@bendover2425 yeah but lets be honest... not much for you to do

[@Devin_Stromgren]

Income taxes operate on the assumption that the fruits of your labor belong to the government before they belong to you.

[@sirashley2355]

Income tax= if you want to work you pay the government to work Sales tax= if you want to use money you pay the government to use money Estate tax = if you want to pass your loved ones your money you pay the government Health tax= if you breathe in this country you pay the government Property tax= if you already paid for something and own it then you still pay the government. And it goes on and on etc, but if you speak against it you are unpatriotic and an idiot. All these ducking sheep leading the pack. Wake up people they are just an organized mob using legalized extortion NONE OF THE MONEY WE PAY IN TAXES GOES TOWARD WHAT YOU THINK. THAT'S WHY WE ARE STEADILY IN MORE AND MORE DEBT.

[@BMDecipher]

@@sirashley2355 aaaannnddd what is there to do?

[@joeze2193]

Definitely interesting

[@sirashley2355]

@@BMDecipher as an analogy, I'm just telling you that your car is smoking and making a funny sound, you will have to go to someone smarter for a solution. But once 330 million Americans wise up we can collectively come to a conclusion, utilizing our numerous citizens with advanced degrees.

[@yessum15]

@@sirashley2355 Sir, I promise you that if you buy property and don't have a tax fund police force to enforce the law, I personally will steal your shit. Pay taxes or pay me.

[@mixrd1065]

The government doesn't even deserve taxes considering what's done with them

[@jeffdickson902]

amen to that , tax the f**k out of ya and piss it all away.

[@Mr.Haveaword]

Whole planet drags it feet, whilst dudes like Bezos somehow haul in £100,000,000,000 shipping cotton and chocolate farmed by children as young as 5

[@ralphholiman7401]

That is somewhat true, but if an armed robber gets the drop on me with a gun, he doesn't deserve my money, either, but he's probably getting it.

[@mixrd1065]

@@ralphholiman7401 I can't argue with that logic, but at least you're allowed to defend yourself

[@mixrd1065]

@lego_batman_trickshooter Then shouldn't we have the right to not pay taxes to stuff that has zero effect on our lives?

[@pattyanderson2103]

😂you can be a 14th Amendment, subject to federal jurisdiction, US. Citizen, I'll be a free woman.

[@fiddletown2002]

Except citizenship has nothing to do with jurisdiction. As the U. S. Supreme Court says on jurisdiction: [A] Pennoyer v. Neff, 95 U.S. 714, 24 L.Ed. 565 (U. S. Supreme Court,1877), at 722 (emphasis added): "... The several States of the Union are not, it is true, in every respect independent, many of the right and powers which originally belonged to them being now vested in the government created by the Constitution. But, except as restrained and limited by that instrument, they possess and exercise the authority of independent States, and the principles of public law to which we have referred are applicable to them. One of these principles is, that EVERY STATE POSSESS EXCLUSIVE JURISDICTION AND SOVEREIGNTY OVER PERSONS AND PROPERTY WITHIN ITS TERRITORY...." [B] International Shoe v. State of Washington, 326 U.S. 310 (1945), at 316 (emphasis added): "....Historically, the jurisdiction of courts to render judgment in personam is grounded on their de facto power over the defendant's person. Hence, his presence within the territorial jurisdiction of a court was prerequisite to its rendition of a judgment personally binding him. Pennoyer v. Neff, 95 U. S. 714, 95 U. S. 733. But now that the capias ad respondendum has given way to personal service of summons or other form of notice, DUE PROCESS REQUIRES ONLY THAT, IN ORDER TO SUBJECT A DEFENDANT TO A JUDGMENT in personam, if he be not present within the territory of the forum, HE HAVE CERTAIN MINIMUM CONTACTS with it such that the maintenance of the suit does not offend "traditional notions of fair play and substantial justice." Milliken v. Meyer, 311 U. S. 457, 311 U. S. 463. See Holmes, J., in McDonald v. Mabee, 243 U. S. 90, 243 U. S. 91. Compare Hoopeston Canning Co. v. Cullen, 318 U. S. 313, 318 U. S. 316, 318 U. S. 319. See Blackmer v. United States, 284 U. S. 421; Hess v. Pawloski, 274 U. S. 352; Young v. Masci, 289 U. S. 253...."

[@rsimmons37]

Joe needs to have Mike The Cop or Donut Operator on his show STAT! He'll learna ton about sovereign citizens and it will be very entertaining!

[@nolanolivier6791]

Or angry cops... that would be hillarious...

[@rsimmons37]

@Shayne O'Neil I have no idea what that even means

[@rsimmons37]

@Shayne O'Neil What is a feiggett?

[@rsimmons37]

@Shayne O'Neil too much of a coward to say your own horrible words?

[@spacecowboy1438]

@Shaun Welch I agree, Mike is going full Tiger King level libertarian. His last video was about how unconstitutional the COVID-19 quarantine is. Fuck that guy. Love Donut and AC tho. Mike is a cool guy sure, but not a real dude. *edit: The quarantine laws are unconstitutional. Quarantine procedures do help.

[@kennygroth4938]

Well when you talk about how badly the government has treated society, it's easy to see why sovereign citizenship has taken off. Why would I pay taxes if they go towards destroying other nations? Why would I pay taxes if they dont help our own society? It is all unconstitutional

[@SteveSteeleSoundSymphony]

I think it’s more of a byproduct of social media. Now, dummies from all over the world can make up anything and spread it like gospel. It’s the latecomers to computers and technology that get caught up in these scams. Sovereign citizens, Karens, flat earthers, it’s all the same attraction. Take your pick. These people have spent WAY too much time on Facebook and KZbin listening to the wrong people. Anti-authority is big these days. If you’re not from an abused culture that has an axe to grind, then you have to find some cause to join. That’s where Sovereign citizens, Karens, flat earthers come from. They don’t have a natural, generational cause to fight for so they fabricate one, even if they’re unaware that it’s a fabricated cause.

[@charles5449]

@Kronecker the us forces you to pay taxes even outside of the country, not sure if you can be extradited for tax evasion but they got Capone so...

[@charles5449]

@Kronecker yeah, but make sure you do it before you hit a million bucks in assets... otherwise I think you have to pay a wealth tax, plus if you're not a dual citizen by then you may be locked out of any country

[@charles5449]

@Kronecker agreed, but yeah it's pretty difficult lol. Anyhow sovereign citizens usually want all of the benefits with no obligations, so it's doubtful they would opt for such a costly route.

[@aaronjones8156]

@Kronecker You mean Corperation? If the nation is part of the UN or part of the federal banking system; its an owned corporation

[@jasoncoomer1226]

*They outlawed "Debtor's Prison" centuries ago....unless you owe...the government.*

[@Winterydee]

If you owe either a company or a private citizen money & fail to pay that debt which is owed. They can take you to court & get a judgment against you which can then put leans on your property & garnish your wages. If you some how continue to avoid paying off that judgment without reasonable cause the court could then have charges be brought against you and you could see jail time due to it. So you can still go to prison for failing to pay back your debts to non government entities. It just takes longer for the requirements to be meet & they are some what higher. But yeah, the government is pretty much looks at it like Judge Dredd would... "I am the LAW! And NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW!"

[@pennysmith2012]

Winterydee no that is so incorrect

[@nothankyou9906]

pennysmith2012 no it is actually pretty accurate. Talk to an attorney

[@pennysmith2012]

No Thank you my comment was referring to Winterdee’s comment

[@Winterydee]

@@pennysmith2012 I'm pretty sure he understands that your comment was a retort to my comment. But what you seem to be failing to understand is that his comment was a retort to your comment/retort of my comment. All I was saying is a court can rule what you have to pay your debts. That ruling is a court order. Failing to comply with a court order can lead to additional fines, warrants for your arrest to reappear in court about the matter and even jailing/imprisonment. The courts really do not like it when people do not follow their rulings and orders.

[@charger265rt]

You can’t be a sovereign and citizen at the same time and if one that understands the fraud and the deception that is played against us knows it’s all about your standing,, , in the private or public

[@chrispreston256]

It's about what it has been about since the revolutionary war, not being a subject of another. You don't act under anything they created but what man has created which can be found in the constitution. Act anyway you wish anywhere you wish that you can without violating the law which is common law, God's or natural law or law of the land its all the same thing. It's the government that has to perform a certain way and when they don't they are to be held accountable individually because it's the individual decision to violate their oath and act in a personal capacity.

[@ElectricalBeing]

@@chrispreston256WELL SAID . THERES ONLY ONE LAW

[@Grenlabelmusicllc]

It’s all about freeing your strawman people don’t know there’s actually 2 of you the other you they control

[@REMember_whozero2]

@@ElectricalBeingi😊u

[@b33lze6u6]

joe "i for some reason only extend my headphones on one side to max length" rogan

[@jkephart4624]

😂

[@seandafny]

How did u even notice that. Funny af tho

[@jkephart4624]

I noticed that in the past also

[@Wookewok8346]

That's how I where my headset😂

[@ify105]

He’s got swagger think of it like a sideways hat

[@QuitYourCryin]

some taxation is actually illegal. even the fact you could be 60 years old, own property for 30 years, have it completely paid off (house included),and it could be in the middle of the woods, and STILL have to pay taxes on it. that's ridiculous. owning land is not a service the government provides. we need to end it.

[@gonzothecat5901]

I mean they do it everyday so it’s not that illegal.

[@jayknfriends]

“Owning property is not a service the government provides.” The US Military insures that a foreign government does not kill you and take your property. It is absolutely a service provided to you and every citizen within the borders of the US.

[@MiffedFan]

Land patents can stop this.

[@brandonharrison7773]

@@jayknfriends I agree, my family owns a farm, I don't have to pay the cops to get poachers off my property etc, that's why cops exist therefor taxes. The real problem is inflation, due to taking the US dollar off the Gold Standard. We used to have to back every dollar printed to x quantity of gold. Therefore, a bank couldn't lend money that it could not pay back in gold. Nixon got rid of that.

[@ibrahim-ob1lt]

@@jayknfriends gov doesn't allow us to buy military grade weapons to protect ourselves

[@MrKfq269]

Vlad the impaler fixed the homeless problem in his town.

[@logancrocker4194]

Holy shit

[@JordanTheMann]

This is true.

[@anchorbubba]

You are technically right tho

[@mistakenvirgo1286]

They don't call him 'The Impaler' for nothing.

[@MrKfq269]

@@seriouslyfunny11 I'm far too productive.

[@Jayce_Alexander]

Sovereign citizens - because even scientologists need someone to laugh at.

[@AndradeSamir]

They are correct in disrespecting government authority, but too stupid to realize that the government has a bunch of people with guns and that its convenient to just follow the rules

[@100GTAGUY]

Eh even then Scientologists can still go fuck themselves lol

[@jeremytrudell7163]

Who uses the term "sovereign citizen" except police?

[@carstontoedter1333]

@james mack you'd be surprised at the amount not of overlap between sovcits and flat earthers

[@johnboy7819]

LA has a larger homeless crowd than the entire population of Greenland.

[@NR-gp2il]

Come to SF baby and you will love skid row

[@Truthiness10]

ShinRaPresident no it doesn’t, asshole. Don’t like facts huh?

[@johnboy7819]

@ShinRaPresident Yes, It was meant to be a cute statement. You sound as if you are on edge a little.

[@aus-li]

@ShinRaPresident No! Facts are stupid! It's all about opinions!

[@olafolaf4646]

Apparently Seattle is trying to compete.

[@CorImmaculatum]

When I choose to arm myself I am thinking of my children. “ Those who would trade essential liberties for a little safety, deserve neither liberty or safety “- Ben Franklin

[@hayreddinbarbarossa661]

And yet people in countries around the world let their respective governments install laws that rode rough shot over civil liberties without blinking and eye after 9/11. The intrusion upon privacy particularly around phone bugging is scary.

[@TwoStacks217]

Does anybody know the difference between Liberty and freedom to me it seems synonymous

[@sabin97]

sorry but wht the fuck do civilian-grade guns have to do with "essential liberty"? it seems to me(and please correct me if this isnt the case) that you were thinking about safety when you got your guns.... so the use of that quote gets even weirder.....

[@rexgamewell]

He wrote that with dead bodies dead in the back yard. Fuck him and all these horrible laws.

[@anonymouspost8407]

Ben Franklin's quote, while poignant, did not mean what it is now used for.

[@juanvelasquez4682]

"Think of the children. " I am! I'm learning how to protect and defend them.

[@MrWhoadudewhoa]

@mr frank lol

[@machiel5888]

You and people in your house are statistically more likely to die or be injured by a gun than if you didn’t have a gun in your house.

[@qualityinn5063]

@@machiel5888 True, I'm also more likely to suffer an injury through weightlifting than sitting and watching TV. Doesn't mean it doesn't have value

[@swamprott8591]

@@machiel5888 you and your family are statistically more likely to die or be injured by your vehicle than if you were to not own a vehicle.

[@kdawg9190]

mr frank this must be a joke. His name is Juan velasquez 😂😂

[@gifctdotorgthought-police3706]

I still say we need cops, but they should receive a double penalty, at minimum, for breaking laws they are paid to KNOW AND UPHOLD.

[@oldstudbuck3583]

@gifctdotorgthought-police3706 just admit it, you hate cops you just don’t want to be challenged why. I bet you applied for the job and were found unqualified.

[@masterred82]

"Theres people out there begging for someone to break into their house" *Anthony* *Cumia* *Has* *Entered* *The* *Chat*

[@gamethogic3751]

Joey Diaz...

[@thegreatjambino-1906]

Game Thogic I deem yu funniest 😂

[@boof_itall3898]

Anyone with a dog and loaded gun. Dog doesnt let someone come in unannounced. Whenever I lock my door I chuckle because I'm just protecting some idiot who doesnt know who hes fkin with.

[@majinblack27]

Patrice couldn't have delivered that any better 👏👏👏

[@zenlunatic25]

How about Sturgill Mafuckin’ Simpson NOT lighting that guy up who broke into us house twice in the same week? that’s trigger control. How is it that a psychedelic country outlaw is more disciplined than a large percentage of the police officers in this country?! Guaranfuckinteed 9/10 cops are calling 911 after emptying their AR into the petty thief they have lasered from 15 ft away. But not Ol’ Sturgill. Good Old Sturgill.

[@owenwolf1997]

Joe needs to get demolition ranch and doughnut operator on the podcast thanks for all the likes

[@Scrutarii]

I was thinking earlier today that Donut would be a great guest

[@xdcsdiverx]

Dounut or Mike the cop.. Solid guests.

[@Jasondirt]

I agree doughnut is predictable on what he is going to say

[@dick8997]

No one wants to hear from the dumb ass police low iq ass shit. Couldn't listen to that moron talk for 30 min straight

[@dick8997]

Love watching donut operater justify police blowing off innocent people's heads. How enlightened

[@amphg7647]

A homeless problem like the walking dead, didn't South Park already make that episode?

[@netforce0]

no but the simpsons did it

[@MsDawnKeyballs]

@@netforce0 actually....one the Simpsons DIDNT do

[@MaxSMoke777]

Wesley Snipes is an F##ing hero! He went all out in protest and took a beating because of it. Who would have guessed a Hollywood lamo had such balls? It's easy to be heroic with makeup, stuntmen, and millions in speical effects, but Wesley did something REAL. That's a real hero right there, he'll have my respect forever. Keep working out Joe, maybe you'll be a 1/10th the man Wesley is.

[@kyronne1]

A Hollywood lamo loool what

[@stevegyro1]

People have watched alphabet agencies spend trillions on wars, and lately the politicalizing of three letter agencies: criminal activites from all these unelected agencies, against peaceful J6’ers, deaths of two women during that event, and a sham witch hunt upon a former president. Then there is trafficking of children, messing with their identities, and w.blowers getting murdered. Do we want to subsidize this? Really? If you study the history of laws from England’s ‘transfer of control’ to the early founding of America’s Congress, and how much the original Amendments have been butchered, things will begin to make sense. Really dont mind paying taxes. It’s not about the money, it’s about control of the working class masses. But with the abuse and fraud within banking, finance, and insurance entities, well lets just say all the conspiratory theories have been proven true, or are about to be exposed. Bankers and finance companies are mostly offshore, as Foreign entities. Read this sentence again please …. But to any former US citizen, who has done their research, and files legitimately to be a Foreign, you want them in Jail? Please use critical thinking, and realize that Congress no longer runs this country, ‘big money’ does.

[@sexcess]

Joe is saying "State tax" when he meant state income tax on earned wages. State sales taxes on goods and certain services purchased in the state still apply in states with no income tax like Florida.

[@johnthree1611]

Kenny, in America the federal income tax is about 35% or more, the state income tax is probably 10% or more, there’s sales taxes, gas taxes, death taxes, taxes in every way you can imagine, so most people pay 50+% of their income in taxes. America sucks.

[@noth606]

John Three16 dude, ~50% is still a fuckton better than the ~90% roughly that I pay in NL and I'm not a high income earner, I'm just barely over the threshold. Minimum direct income tax rate is 36%

[@johnthree1611]

NL, it’s like arguing over who has a shinier turd. Income tax is theft.

[@BTrain-is8ch]

@@johnthree1611 It's closer to maybe 20%-30% for the overwhelming majority of people. If you make six figures, you're single, childless, renting, and you live in a high tax state like CA you might be getting close to 50% but John Q Public on 35k/year in Indiana isn't paying anything remotely close to that.

[@neue01]

bladeryanner blah blah blah a bunch of crap some people wrote down on paper so they can legally steal from you.

[@robertmcgee7083]

Policing for profit, I don’t approve of cops fishing expeditions.

[@CSnipes]

Are you also the same kind of person that complains that cops never catch the murderers and robbers and rapists?

[@LosianOne]

Hey dummy maybe look at the people who make the laws.

[@catra195]

@@CSnipes uh that would be a valid complaint dumb ass lmao

[@catra195]

@@LosianOne no dummytheres a difference between people who write unlawful legislation and those who enforce it. The difference is *The Action of Violating a Citizens Rights*

[@LosianOne]

@@catra195 you cant pick and choose what laws to enforce dummy. Oh yeah that's a rapist or a murderer but let's not charge them because we let that meth head go. You blame the people who are elected to make the laws, vote for people who dont make laws that violate your rights. It's not the polices job to decide what laws to enforce amd what laws to ignore dummy.

[@Derrick4Liberty]

Have some sovereign citizen on to explane what they are doing

[@zachmartin1948]

Theyre just breaking the law to fit an agenda they want. Basically they dont want laws because they break them.

[@thecrimsonfucker5956]

@@zachmartin1948 wrong. But good try.

[@is300mikie4]

the crimson fucker he’s right the black law dictionary was replaced with the bill of rights and is no longer a valid source

[@thecrimsonfucker5956]

@@is300mikie4 says who? And if so then why is blacks law still used my lawyers in America? If that was true our legal system would be the most simple thing the world has ever seen.

[@Derrick4Liberty]

@Daniel Sherwood wonder why people who want to be free would annoy you?

[@anthonyhicks8589]

Joe should do a show about the "Strawman" and sovereign citizens.

[@zoomtruth1013]

Joe's CONTROLLED.

[@RealJustLaw]

A sovereign cannot be a citizen and a citizen cannot be sovereign

[@drellz9361]

Exactly somebody goota teach Joe on alot of things smh that's why he can't be sovereign

[@brentruss2168]

This. Is there any facts or evidence which prove the Constitution and laws of the US apply to someone for the sole reason that they are geographically present there? Nope. Is "citizenship" defined by the Constitution and laws of the US? Yep. Does.not.compute.

[@TiMaGiQ]

Facts

[@brentruss2168]

@John Lydon I'm aware of that written instrument. But, do you have any facts or evidence which prove it applies to me for the sole reason that I am in this galaxy, in this solar system, on this planet, and on this Continent? I never signed or formally agreed to that instrument in any way, nor does that instrument name me as a party - so is there any evidence or facts which prove it applies to me for simply being physically present here? When pressed for this evidence - Dr. Robert Diab, professor of law, said there wasn't any evidence because the applicability of the law is not rational - it's just a baseless assertion; kzbin.info/www/bejne/hpXWYWWZdpeVi6c Do you agree with Dr. Diab, that the applicability of the law is completely irrational, or do you think pieces of paper with words on them (written instruments) just apply based on magic or something?

[@shapeshiftingpedro]

@@brentruss2168 Your parents, on a birth certificate, claimed you as a new citizen to a country. You are bound to follow that country's laws as a resident and citizen. So yeah, it applies to you.

[@NathanCline12-21]

"Anarchy is no guarantee that some people won't kill, injure, kidnap, defraud, or steal from others. Government is a guarantee that some will." Gustave de Molinari

[@Newshustle]

The p0lice are anarchy

[@kanyeste]

Sure, go live in a society with no police, enjoy

[@josephperea4125]

Empty Echoes well when you're not a bitch and arm and train to handle yourself, you realize how useless police actually are.

[@mikeporten8174]

People will get killed no matter what because people are assholes. Anarchy is a guarantee that violence will run rampant. Tribalism is human nature and groups would form for collective protection and inevitably result in government formation. There’s just be an extreme amount of violence in order to get back to large scale government. - Anybody with their head out of their ass

[@adamleen595]

Cops show up afterwards and ask questions.......? The fact there are cops stop crime

[@CallMehChip]

Did anyone else see the Nasa outfit and hope Duncan Trussell was on xD

[@liammullen2144]

Fuck yeah dude I need a 3 hour podcast with Duncan and Joe asap that's the greatest

[@DursunX]

during sober october?... not a chance. save him for next month

[@robZzdaboss]

Yes I saw the NASA outfit, no I did not hope Duncan trussel was on

[@tbutman42]

Aren't taxes voluntary, I keep hearing them say as much.

[@kevinsmith205]

Joe: sovereign citizen?? Donut: Hold my beer

[@travisnelson9104]

LOL took me a minute

[@jesselamb7788]

Donut operators the shiznit

[@N_ANDOS]

Kevin Smith I fucking hope he gives Donut Operator a shot at the podcast the dude is a Law Enforcement encyclopedia

[@FreshMadeSimple]

Boot lickers fuck donut

[@thecloudyskies]

Kevin Smith ah yes the man the myth the legend

[@baccoworlddomination]

“California is nice to the homeless, Californiaaaaaa is nice to the homeless”

[@Majic031]

brandon vazquez California super cool to the homeless!

[@neveroffended45]

I live in southern California and I smack homeless people around all the time because its their rude and its fun ,they are malnourished so they have about 20 seconds of fighting and 3 seconds of running in them and after that its open season on this guy plus they dont have cellphones to call the police and they aren't real people anyways so who cares .

[@26151611]

How many homeless have you jumped over?

[@macdiggitty]

brandon vazquez California has the best gun laws in the whole country, CaLiFoRnIaaaaaaa

[@tehfuqizg0inon588]

Soopr keewww to da homlezz

[@jwilson3985]

Great article in JAMA written years ago entitled “Bring Back the Asylums.” Agree 100%.

[@wmoran7111]

Absolutely, bring back mental health care and asylums and the homeless issue will be MOSTLY taken care of. Short term homelessness needs a bigger solution with affordable housing and bringing back the middle class.

[@benrent6625]

you arent kidding man...my moms been bipolar schizophrenic for my entire life-she lost her house due to being a loon years ago and def was homeless for the last 5yrs or so. back in the day she wouldve been put in a mental healthcare facility and treated and made to take her meds(she never wanted to take them and that was most her problems)

[@murple1537]

Yes bring back mental institutions and also work harder to figure out what is causing the mental health because it has gotten worse and it's obviously environmental factors (as in pesticides, drugs, poor nutrition, etc) so that we can work to remove those factors and lessen our future burden. I don't understand the point in putting a crazy person in an apartment complex... they still go out on the streets and act crazy. Please just put them somewhere they won't run out into traffic like they keep doing where I live ffs

[@alexwhit4048]

Anyone wearing a NASA badge should not be taken seriously.

[@i-_-am-_-g1467]

Joe My Headset is never straight or symetrical Rogan *edit* holy shit thanks for the likes 😂

[@conhip]

Drives me crazy. That and the flag doesn't line up right, in the frame

[@marchammond05]

Haha. I've never noticed that .

[@marchammond05]

@@conhip but it's atleast level .

[@SnobVisionsTv]

Now i can’t stop looking at his headphones

[@AscndedAssassin]

It’s because there is a gap in between the cushioning of the headset so it’s offset so the one cushion is sitting on the top of his head. If it was straight the hard part of the frame would be pushing into his head.

[@psychoticdaizyproductions569]

Meanwhile Amazon paid 0 dollars in taxes this year

[@rktsnail]

Mike Rodriguez as they added billions of dollars to our economy employing hundreds of thousands of people bolstering local and state economies. Learn about what tax incentives are dumb ass

[@psychoticdaizyproductions569]

@@rktsnail is that supposed to justify the fact that 0 dollars went to taxes?

[@peacefulwarrior4151]

So if I employ someone and have a business I dont have to pay taxes?

[@galaxybrainkid1222]

@@rktsnail Bit of a redundant point there dumbass

[@rktsnail]

Mike Rodriguez yes, completely. They contribute more to the country than their taxes do

[@missdirection4616]

Anyone want to straighten joes headphones

[@soundmixerporter]

Crooked head = crooked headphones

[@timjohnson3913]

They only extend out further from 1 side

[@KingLouis420th]

Fuck dude you made me notice it and now it’s so annoying

[@MsDawnKeyballs]

Jesus Christ it's only the pad on top that slid over. And those headphones extend from both sides. What generic as fuck headphones do you use????

[@theovonskeletor3709]

@@MsDawnKeyballs the ledt side is pulled out more u must be blind the pad doesn't move on any nice cans I've ever used

[@satuurn5245]

Income tax is completely unconstitutional and wrong. Same with property tax and death tax. People have been tarred and feathered for less.

[@ryandatkinson]

"I've shot at Burbank before ... at the, uh, shooting place." /makes pistol fingers/

[@brwi1]

“Shooting blanks”

[@LuckysMotorcycles]

So, I see Joe has joined the new “Space Force”.

[@overclucker]

If Trump actually got Space Force off the ground, that would be awesome. It still wouldn't make up for the travesty of HARPA though. Hitler, Stalin and Mussolini would have loved HARPA.

[@mattkraig]

I always get stressed whenever Jaime speaks, I don’t want DMT Daddy to reprimand him again 😞

[@travispickeringarmwrestling]

😂😂😂😂

[@aphysique]

LMAO 😂 lol 😂

[@bloodwizard9675]

When did he reprimand him?

[@winstonchurchill624]

Bloodwizard No idea, but I want to see that.

[@iron-farmer]

Whats jamies deal? He get ful time pay?

[@sherrigaskin5656]

You need to get Jerry Miculek on the show. He is THE ultimate shooter. Mr. Hi speed.

[@wasteeditonline9606]

Joe needs Donut Operator to show him some prime sovereign citizen cringe

[@TonaldDrump686]

Donut after a DMT trip.

[@TurboPotato]

fuck that bootlicking police apologist

[@CdogGHs]

Alex Wright lol imagine being this guy

[@utp216]

YES!!!

[@jfkonlsd1364]

@@TurboPotato can i get a link of him defending a shitty cop or unjust shooting?

[@whatsinaname1829]

If everybody doesn't pay taxes, it will work. Its just like a bully at school, if everybody stands ups, the bully is powerless.

[@jamesleon4883]

Please explain how it will work if nobody pays taxes?

[@StraddlerSales]

@@jamesleon4883 the federal government will collapse and folks will band together, essentially becoming mini states. but wasn't that what America set out to be? the "United States", a loose connection of different states, each sovereign from each other, having the power to govern themselves. they're just under one flag that's all, their policies aren't universal.. there was never supposed to be any FEMA, or federal welfare, the IRS, the ATF, and a plethora of other government services and departments... they were all supposed to be on the local state level to varying degrees depending on which state you chose to live in..... but i guess that distinctively american notion of liberty has long eroded..

[@mitchchartrand]

​@@jamesleon4883easy then roads won't be repaired. Water won't be sanitized, electricity won't be available and problem solved.

[@slayerfan209]

@@mitchchartrandthat doesn't come from income tax

[@mitchchartrand]

@@slayerfan209 where do you think it comes from? I never specified income tax, but that is still about 40% of government revenue in the US.

[@J.Velas.9]

"If there was a disease [in Los Angeles] ..." Oof

[@paulc7138]

I was thinking the same thing and had to check when this was uploaded. lol

[@kizyyy-r1]

I'm reading this during full blown so called covid China virus timed when LA is being hit hard for the 3rd time

[@stephenhutton7103]

LA is a disease

[@ongogablogian3178]

@@stephenhutton7103 hopefully your speaking from a red state that's not dependent on government assistance lol

[@josh18230]

"The tax system is so crazy, you get taxed multiple times and it makes no sense! Anyway here is why I'm a socialist and why I support Bernie Sanders"

[@adventureswithfrodo2721]

You have no clue. Socialist States are only supposed by taxes.

[@cunknown777]

@@adventureswithfrodo2721 "supported" by taxes and only works until they run out of other people's money.

[@The_Privateer]

Hmmm... pay us money or you'll get put in a cage at gunpoint. Kinda sounds like extortion?

[@greenhenderson7165]

cryptocognomen no no everything fine. Theft of your liberty because you didn’t pay up is totally cool.

[@mirrorperson1744]

Legal extortion, you tacitly agree to pay taxes by virtue of being born a citizen, it’s quite the racquet 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@greenhenderson7165]

Mere Person my b lemme just change how I feel about never being allowed to own land in the land of the free. You’re right they have a right to everything we do and own lolol

[@NathanCline12-21]

@@mirrorperson1744 Being born does not equal giving consent

[@jordanred3273]

Yup gov own land we have pay them that why they protec us

[@jimb9454]

Well, CA is not fixing the homeless problem, but they got rid of plastic straws, so, WIN.

[@1TinyTrex]

Those plastic straws are actually better than the weird card ones people have to use now. Something about how these new ones cant be recycled

[@thirtythree160]

Joe Rogans next interview will be with a sovereign citizen.

[@joecrosby5427]

Also sovereign citizens and so called Moorish Americans have been known to try to unalive officers over a traffic stop

[@cmcdermott85]

I’ve never heard Jamie talk so much

[@phillyhippie]

When Joe has his NASA suit on does that mean he's high as hell?

[@skyblue9991]

Its sober October, dude. Lol

[@daryldixon3685]

Oddly enough it probably means that he’s sober

[@The_Rad_Dad3]

This is Major Joe to ground controlllllll....

[@SAM-ru4vx]

It mean hoe hogan is listening to moon man songs on the headset

[@leonardojimenez3703]

Iconic as hell if you tell be etc guns and planning to shoot them lol

[@itapyouout9506]

"Somethings changed." It's called the end game to centralized banking, Joe.

[@infernojoe7554]

Crypto trading.

[@itapyouout9506]

@@infernojoe7554 Or Cyrpto storing would be my preference

[@LordJagd]

Whoa

[@pokeyerface]

what endgame?

[@shoeflaps]

Crypto is too full of carnys and con men to take over yet.

[@raskal8578]

All of the taxes people "pay" are not used to lower the national debt.

[@vze4p6c2]

That's correct. Fed reserve notes are "notes", that is a promise to pay. You can't redeem fed notes for money

[@dennisapplegate7553]

A well armed and trained citizenry is the best form of protection a society can have

[@sloaiza81]

American society

[@danielohyeah]

Jamies Live PD impression was SPOT ON

[@ryangen5139]

12:30 - complains about how much we pay in taxes... while also supporting Bernie Sanders for president.

[@ramonsilva2205]

Everyone complains about taxes.

[@kents.2866]

Would rather have my taxes go to healthcare and education than killing people all around the world in the name of "spreading democracy".

[@Ck-jy8bw]

If America just left 1 year military budget out wich is roughly 1 trillion youd need only 729 million to give Medicare to all and with 717 million you could send 24 million kids to college for 4 years that's just with 1 years funding of what the Pentagon gets

[@user-rd5nc1nb9f]

@@kents.2866 would rather have no taxes nor public healthcare

[@5ynthesizerpatel]

@@user-rd5nc1nb9f - You can have it if you want - Somalia has a 0% tax rate and no public healthcare - paradise man!

[@wildnature8773]

It’s actually probably one of the smartest ideas you could do to become sovereign

[@joemarshall786]

LMFAO. Millennial are you?

[@adele19b3]

Yea you dumb af

[@d3f4ultinput]

Why

[@karter969]

Lul

[@SC-gp7kt]

Exactly

[@dreamerweaver]

Pay your taxes, blindly. Never ask why.

[@dreamerweaver]

Chao Bear Media There’s a lot missing here in my opinion. I’m not free to go live in any jungles as I have to ask permission from the government to travel to this jungle. Then I have to ask permission from the country where the jungle is. Then I have to pay, most likely, fees to the jungle country. Then there’s probably restrictions on the type of domicile I can have in this jungle. I can’t have a car or any transport there so it will be really difficult to live there. It most likely will be just as unfree there as it is here. You’re saying I HAVE to carry my weight, what it really is is I am forced to carry my weight in the way the mass dictates, then I must accept that the monopoly service providers who make crumbling roads and I have to pay for it or go to a cage. I have not choice in how the service is carried out. You can say “vote” but we all know I have no voice even then. Just because others have to go through the misery of HAVING to pay, then they feel entitled to not think for themselves and laugh at those who say “wait a minute, is this just?” Can we make a different more efficient system that is voluntary? Yes, but that’s way too much work or rather, it’s been made to look like lunacy to those who’ve only known one system their whole life. “It’s only fair” to go along with what I have to go along with because I really don’t want to think for myself? Rules should be there so there is common ground, but we shouldn’t just accept everything just because everyone else does. Healthcare, BTW is never free. In countries where services are free, like on quasi socialistic America, people begin to rely on them and stop relying on themselves. They just give the money blindly and hope the monopoly on safety, roads, electric, etc. will service them how they like. You’re either free or you’re not. You’re not, and by the way your write the words, you’ve not been free for some time.

[@Plisko1]

@@dreamerweaver Quite a dilemma... you can't travel to that tax free utopia freedom land without roads and you don't get roads without millions of people before you paying your way by agreeing to taxes.

[@dreamerweaver]

@@Plisko1 would i even need roads if it wasn't for this archaic monstrosity of government keeping me stuck in bs combustion vehicles? Keep thinking inside the box, keep assuming who i am, it's actually sad to know people love their status quo over real progress. Govt stifles progress at every turn.

[@dreamerweaver]

@@Plisko1 and if we actually were free to be creative we could fund roads in many different ways.

[@Plisko1]

@@dreamerweaver Dude, you're not smarter just because you reject everything. People before you contributed a lot to this society to give you the quality of life you have right now. It didn't grow on trees. You didn't do it yourself. You also don't seem to understand that publicly owned spaces like roads and parks are the only place your free speech can be protected from property rights.

[@Kwelar]

Sovereign citizens like to use the "straw man theory" as a way to avoid things like debt collectors, traffic violations, etc. Basically, they believe that you have 2 Identities: 1 is your true natural self, the way God recognizes you. 2 is the identity you are given in order to participate and partake in society, it's benefits and just the overall "system". So things like a social security number, drivers license, credit, etc. It's your fictitious name or entity the way it's written on your birth certificate, passport and other legal documents, in all caps. For example SMITH, JOHN. These people know that the "system" and it's "laws", which are really only Statues and Acts are not Common Law and only apply to your fictitious "legal fiction/ strawman". A good example is a police officer's use of Legalese when speaking to you. When a cop says "do you understand...", in plain English it means "do you comprehend what I'm saying to you?" But in Legalese terms, under Black's Law definition, it means "Do you stand under me?", "Do you grant me authority over you so that you obey and answer to me, and whatever I tell you to do?"...

[@Newshustle]

Only reason the law works is because these motherfvkers will shoot you or kidnap you

[@insertcolorfulmetaphor8520]

It is ridiculous to act like the Articles of Confederation trump all other laws... like the fucking US Constitution. The AofC have been void, since 1789!

[@insertcolorfulmetaphor8520]

@YoureGoingDownFed that is quite an allegation to make... anecdotal supposition, does not make a good substitute for facts.

[@alexdeschenes243]

That's a load of horseshit.

[@aaronforsythe8556]

@@Newshustleso then no law?

[@OneEyedDrummerTDHE]

As someone who grew up in a very conservative Midwestern state. This show gave me so much hope when I found out everyones not an asshat

[@assassinaria]

I grew up in Liberal Canada and this is how it was before the SJW's took over in 2014 lol

[@thefakebarrybonz4492]

darth vader made it to where alderan was a paradise with 0 homeless, 0 crimes, and 0 complaints.

[@aaronwilcox4376]

That was Grand Moff Tarkin. Don’t blame Vader.

[@trojanwood]

“Some guys actually know what they are talking about” smartest line ever muttered on here.

[@joshuarandall2697]

So true

[@yocland8841]

My homeboy has been studying the sovereign citizen thing for 20 yrs. Yrs ago he got arrested outside of GG park with 2lbs in his trunk and got searched with no consent or warrent. Long story short, he went into court spouting all that shit. The judge took him back into chambers and got the cased dismissed, his weed back and his money back. I wouldnt have believed it if i didnt see it. Some guys do know their shit and can make it work. Its not a myth but alot of people know a small fraction and try to weild it and get their ass kicked by the police. That stuff only works in a court room not the streets! Thats most peoples major mistake. You cant spew that shit to a cop on the streets. IF you know yr shit like my buddy and he does, its only for the courtroom. I love the dude but i dont fully buy the shit, i do but .....its a slippery slope.

[@Willifordwav]

LA and SF are seriously overpopulated. Higher demand for housing = higher price for housing, causing homelessness for those who can’t afford it

[@zachmartin1948]

No the US sends the homeless there becsuse its warm year round, its expensive because everything they get is imported.

[@bruced.370]

@@Valk369 bus ticket 🎟 is cheaper than an ounce of crack. If there's a will there's a way. No one is a prisoner.

[@isaacmartinez7557]

Police officers are the most prevalent sovereign citizens

[@TheNightRichard]

"Sovereign citizens owned" and "sovereign citizens rekt" are 2 of my favorite KZbin searches.

[@reoffending]

How does that government boot taste?

[@TheNightRichard]

@@reoffending how's that pepper spray taste?

[@reoffending]

@@TheNightRichard I'm not a sovereign citizen. I just hate the government.

[@mikekasich836]

​@@reoffendingpretty good. Better than letting you criminals run around with impunity

[@mikekasich836]

​@@reoffendingYou hate government because you're stupid.. I'd rather have the government keeping law and order then people like you running around committing crimes and doing whatever you want

[@delmeauxknows5856]

I refuse to believe that Joe Rogan doesnt know what a Soverign citizen is

[@dnlxl]

he loves playing dumb

[@Dr.Gainzzz]

As cool as Joe rogan is for an old guy people dont realise hes a boomer to the bone.

[@acovarrubias12]

the problem with homelessness is when people think of them they imagine drug addicts, violence and people defecating in the streets. As opposed to families living in a van after unfortunate events, college students trying to get an education, or regular people working trying to get on their feet. I could understand the contempt for the ones that can be problematic but in all honesty after long periods of living a dehumanizing existance i could understand why they would behave that way. Still there needs to be a distinction between the two as well as a different approach/accommodation for each.

[@aristideregnier4883]

I mean the people shitting in the streets are like 90% of homeless people

[@yessum15]

@@aristideregnier4883 Pretty sure this is not true and has been stated with no research. There's a ton of 'frictional' homeless for a variety of reasons. Eg: among women the number one cause of homelessness is domestic violence. For families, it's lack of affordable housing. Among men the numbers bumped up significantly after 2008 financial crisis. These are all populations who aren't just gonna immediately be like "oh well, time to shit in the street!"

[@trevor_corey8037]

acovarrubias12 yeah. Bullshit. I’ve BEEN homeless 👋 right here. Lived in 3 homes less shelter including 1 domestic abuse shelter. Guess what, most of them are drug addicts, lazy piece of shut humans, pregnant moms still addicted to crack, and yes mostly mental health issues. Because living on the streets makes you crazy. The heart strings your talking about, DOES happen, but it’s not even CLOSE to the majority. I was one of those “heartstring” cases. I found a job, worked 70 hours, walked home in the dangerous areas late at night every day after work and prayed I would make it back to the shelter safe, while also praying my few belongings were not stolen from the other “residents”. 6 months later, I was in an apartment on my own. 8 months later I was a manager for a company. 3years later I’m a neuroscientist and work in the OR. These people are fucking BUMS.

[@brettrun8575]

AYA Barakat the problem with homeless people is homeless people.

[@svensvenkill]

@@trevor_corey8037 ​ You were homeless and three years later you're a neuroscientist? When did you get your neuroscience qualifications? Before you were homeless? And why were you homeless in the first place?

[@flouncymom]

My friend is the censor guy on livepd...it is 30 minutes delayed just in case the camera gets something really horrific. Love that show tho

[@dnmoscato92]

I always wondered what the delay was. They couldn't show a cop or suspect shooting them dead

[@flouncymom]

@@dnmoscato92 yes, it's actually happened and the delay saved the audience from seeing (I believe) a man shoot himself. So, yeah, thank God for it!

[@Twigg4075]

Are you sure about that? I thought the delay was more like 5 minutes tops? There was at least one time, back in season 1 or 2, where they were looking for a suspect outside of some dude's house and he ended up looking outside and was like "I saw my house on Live PD and was wondering what was going on?"

[@flouncymom]

@@Twigg4075 right, I think it was much shorter in the beginning but something happened and they went to a longer delay.

[@Twigg4075]

@@flouncymom That could definitively make sense.

[@dougbillman2333]

THESE ARE LAWS, not codes, rules, mandates, ordinances, statutes, THESE ARE LAWS… public laws 73-1 and 73-10.., to all of you out here, get educated, fools…

[@golden-63]

Statutes by definition are laws passed by a legislative body, such as Congress as called for in the Constitution. The word "Code" means a group of laws concerning the same subject that have been codified (collected) and grouped together.