The Dangers of Giving Hormones to Kids with Gender Dysphoria

Taken from JRE #1509 w/Abigail Shrier:
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[@3_up_moon]

I'm glad I'm not stuck with the decisions I made at 17

[@slicksilver9441]

I just dont honestly think any kid under 16 honestly knows what they want at that age. You can not honestly tell me that an 8 year old boy wants to be a girl....not just that but other kids could look at this as a "fad" and start saying the same thing.

[@carlthellama3435]

Slick Silver at 16 kids barely know what they want, sure you might have a career you’d love to go into but generally speaking being 16 or so, you’re a completely different person at 30.

[@barth9580]

I'm 42 and I have a couple tattoos I wish I never got and I was in my 20s!

[@midnite8729]

Just be glad you weren't born with the wrong body parts .. you can't compare that to getting a tattoo or getting drunk on a Saturday night

[@3_up_moon]

@@midnite8729 I dont think it's right to tell kids there is something wrong with their bodies. The problem isnt the anatomy, it's the construct of gender itself.

[@notkingali1798]

God the amount of people who shouldn’t be a parents is scary.

[@Preacher_.]

Don't let Society & the immense manufacturered consent that is "popular culture" off the hook that easy now.

[@mr.pritchard67]

People should be required to get licenses to become parents. You must be this tall to ride this ride.

[@Preacher_.]

@@mr.pritchard67 That's some 1984 China shit. Let's stick with the American - Northern European model and just make sure there's a fucking TRAINED Psychologist involved in any kind of hormone/surgical procedures. Same as we do with ADHD, Pain, Depression, ect.

[@hotpocketgaming2221]

nice pfp

[@notkingali1798]

lil_disgrace thanks

[@nostalgicfangirl90]

When I was 14 I wanted to be a werewolf and genuinely thought I could become one.

[@555tonyleon]

On god i thought I could transform like mj

[@dootlord5902]

bro i was trynna do some FMA: Brotherhood alchemy at 14

[@gldistrict]

@@dootlord5902 did it work

[@neonbible08]

You still can. Don’t give up

[@danbelliveau2550]

You must ha e been a sheltered 14 year old to believe that you could have been a werewolf

[@Bwjames24]

I had a psychology professor in college who said no one should under go transgender surgery until brain development was complete. He believed it was unethical for doctors to help teens go through the transgender process.

[@coryclark6167]

He is right. Any time a female is exposed to high levels of androgens she will experience permanent androgenic side effects of the hormone, like deepening of the voice, growth of the clitoris, body hair and facial hair growth, and even growth in facial structure. This is not reversible no matter how much people would like to say it is. If a male uses estrogen he may permanently shutdown his natural production of testosterone and the side effects are debilitating physiological effects. this is why it is so essential for a man to have a sufficient amount of testosterone to function. The push to feminize America is very real. Get your man to get bloodwork and check testosterone levels. The environment we live in is toxic and it is all meant to keep us men weak and controlled.

[@beanybabyrabie]

It 100% is all these parents and doctors should be charged period

[@ifunanya24]

I’m surprised if he kept his job after saying the truth.

[@joshanitacurd2766]

We did our wills a few months ago and the lawyer said “do not under any circumstances give your kids the full Sun of money until they are 25. Maybe a bit at 18 and a but more at 21 but if you have ten million, do not will that to them until they are 25” what a 18 year old vs a 25 year old would do with major cash is much different. And it’s the truest thing ever.

[@thisismyrealname2860]

@@beanybabyrabie 100% is a ridiculously uniformed and hateful concept

[@rickybobby9256]

Our world is being run by people who are slaves to their emotions.

[@jr8573]

That means it’ll collapse and a new era will begin. Looks like china and the Middle East are taking over. Unless we do something about it.

[@randlestevenson]

History goes in a cycle we're entering the soft shoe era of this empire and it will all crumble eventually.

[@jr8573]

randle I see it too. Unless we remove liabilities and strengthen our assets for the long term.

[@randlestevenson]

@@jr8573 patriotism is dying down and if your on land your not willing to die for, then it wont be yours for long.

[@SetMeFree]

I’m a slave to my own emotions and that’s why I don’t lead shit!

[@GrantfromEarth]

"Mum can i have a beer?" "Dont be ridiculous, you're five years old" "Mum can i take hormones? " "Sure why not, You're old enough to know who you want to be as an adult""

[@jon-christianandersen6485]

The parents should be behind bars. All the likes mumy Will get on Facebook because their Child is special. Look at the parents to desmond is amasing!! 😔. They are earning money on the kid... Poor kid!! 😔

[@munchbox7446]

Kids can't have hormones though. Nice try transphobe. :)

[@paulgotik]

@@munchbox7446 in some contries they can. Just research.

[@floopygoober5003]

literally no children under 12 are getting hormone blockers yall just be making up shit

[@cleanbeans7496]

floopy goober no one should take stuff that messes up their brains at any age.

[@Cookiefight69]

My 15 year old daughter told me one day last year that she think she’s a boy. I told her that I love her and will always love her, but I cannot accept that because I KNEW she is a girl. There’s absolutely nothing masculine about her at all. I also knew where this was coming from, which was her best friend who also think she’s a boy. I gave it some real serious thought, and had to cut that friendship off. Although this was her best friend, she surprisingly didn’t argue or get upset. A few months later, she told me that she thought she was a boy because she wanted to fit in with her friend and made it come across like she was thanking me for stopping it. I told her that she’ll have many friends in her life, but only one mom, and being her mom, it’s my job to make the hard decisions and risk sometimes upsetting her. But I do it because I love her and want no harm to come to her.

[@AshCupric]

Your daughter is lucky to have a mom like you! I’m glad it all worked out. I can’t imagine being a parent this day and age. We are certainly living in crazy times.

[@nasirdjedi8962]

Good thinking. What would you have done if you suspected she actually did believe she was a boy?

[@jurachi1180]

@@nasirdjedi8962 gender identity, pronouns being trans whatever is a feminine thing. I’ve never met a masculine woman who transitioned but I’ve met many very feminine women transition to be men (it was a group of awkward women who were obsessed with identity and politics). That’s my opinion though through what I know. Women who are very masculine and are exactly like men are basically always lesbians and lesbians don’t tend to transition. It’s mostly autistic straight leaning women

[@NidokingOtsutsuki]

thank god my mother is nothing like you, jesus.

[@dmartinztx]

Stay away from people that will have a bad influence on your family. Keep your kids closer. Great parenting on your part.

[@shelr8139]

I got tattoos at 17 that I’m lasering off because I was stupid and got them too young. I can’t imagine choosing to lose my fertility and regretting it

[@nathansyupp1137]

I feel you. I got mine at 14 lol.

[@FilterHQ]

Bottom line... Dysphoria is a real thing that hormones help with, but it is very rare. It should not be a fad or pushed on children. It's OK to be a tomboy or an effeminate man.. It doesn't mean you are trans.

[@lewisnorden3744]

Summed it up perfectly

[@mpspenguin]

It's not a fad and it's not pushed on children. I've been through the process myself, and it's incredibly hard to even get to a point where a doctor is taking you seriously. The cases where someone detransitions are actually incredibly rare, but they're all the media seems to want to talk about.

[@chi111y]

mpspenguin Its is a fad pushed on children. The proof is introducing young children to homosexuality in school. Such as books with two dads, or gay couples raising kids in TV shows. Children should not have to be told gay people exist if its something they are born with.

[@jeffmerz5367]

@@mpspenguin encouraging little boys to wear dresses is pushing it on children. Thats one of many examples. You're just plain wrong.

[@matthiaswalker38]

@@lewisnorden3744 If gender is a social construct then how can it be changed with hormones? Or if it is a subjective sense of self then what is the relation to objective physical attributes?

[@dakotasonney2142]

I'm a 25 year old man with medically low testosterone and I cannot even get it prescribed to me for health benefits. But were gonna give a 12 year old year girl some?

[@zacharyshort384]

Which State are you in?

[@MuniebroTV]

What testosterone levels do you have? I’d recommend checking out peaktestosterone dot com and the forum there. There’s ways to naturally boost your test. And if you have an underlying cause, you might be able to treat that instead. Good luck boss.

[@claudiap.6838]

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[@chi111y]

Right or HGH

[@naderomiller8557]

You can get it. Dr.s do visits over the web. Just have to send blood work.

[@SoVuS777]

When I was 4 years old, during the 90's, I told everyone I was a boy (i also felt like i was a boy). The hidden reason behind it was that I was inspired by my great grandmother who took care of me back then. She served in the army during ww2 and inspired me to become a soldier just like her. I was later told by my mom that I couldn't become one because I was a girl. I've been a hardcore tomboy my entire life and feeling "in the wrong body" until I was in my early 20's. Thank God gender identity wasn't a thing when I grew up! Today I am 30, a wife and a mother, having a great life and 100% happy with my gender. I found out that being a woman doesn't mean I have to be a walking feminine stereotype. Also, acting in a more masculine way than most women doesn't make me less of a woman or a different gender. This kind of thinking takes time and life experience to develop and that's why it's very harmful to encourage young people, and especially children, to transition.

[@johnyaxon__]

They brainwashing them

[@roywempor8395]

Thankfully your mother wasn't like today's feminists or you would have been mutilated and sent to the trenches on your way to identify as a corpse

[@jethrowashington396]

yup your happy with your gender because you don’t have the mental disorder called gender dysphoria obviously good god what a stupid comment and gender dysphoria has been a recognized disorder since the 80’s it very well may have been around while you were a kid assuming your age

[@DevilishBeaver0]

My step mother is a child psychologist and she says that the majority of transitioned young people have massive regret and lack of better feeling, it's an absolute nightmare.

[@ellieeatsbugs]

no actually I don’t know where she got the statistics but it’s wrong if you look at the current statistics that were conducted with proper research it is actually the opposite the regret rate is 0.1%, which is very low

[@bodyweight.austin]

@@ellieeatsbugsthat’s a huge difference 😭

[@MrKurtykurt]

@@ellieeatsbugsyeah we’ve all seen the “proper research” you schmohawks use to prove you’re “pro science” even though you don’t even acknowledge sex as a binary

[@setzer6452]

I would take the anecdote from a practicing therapist over some junk science questionnaire study some graduate student slopped together because they did not have the initiative to do an actual scientific study and are about to graduate. As a therapist, I learned the horrors of the sex trade during this whole "sex work is work" movement. The vast majority of those girls were molested as children. Like almost all of them. And it is just an accepted reality that is shrugged off by the girls doing this work.

[@MrKurtykurt]

@@ellieeatsbugs if you think those studies qualify as “proper research” I can only assume your only criteria for “proper” is “reaches the conclusion I wanted it to.” Just the time frame itself doesn’t qualify the results to be scientifically sound, not even close

[@asmosisyup2557]

So wait, a doctor can and will be fired for disagreeing with a 15 year old about a medical issue? the world is going crazy....

[@Kevin_Oskar]

Parents have also lost custody of their kids after not wanting to give them hormone blockers or get them surgery to transition.

[@CRUNKJOOSE2]

Maaaaaan imagine spending years and thousands of dollars at medical school to get shut down by a 15 year old shit

[@DsiakMondala]

It went from "do no harm" to "do harm or else"

[@staceystrukel1917]

@@DsiakMondalahilarious. Modern medicine is what of the top causes of death. Look up the number of deaths per year from medical error. You'll be shocked. People dont want to be responsible for their own health. You should never blindly trust any doctor.

[@spanishrmx]

We are waaay past "going"... Lol

[@MurasakiMonogatari]

She didn't mention that T makes a woman's uterus atrophy and obviously having an organ dying off inside your body is kind of a problem.

[@GershonBenYitzhak]

I think she talks about it in another part of the interview. This isn't the full interview.

[@dylan351321]

She mentions it in a different clip. A woman who was taking testosterone had to have a hysterectomy because of it.

[@hmars6368]

Not for pharmaceutical or health insurance companies unfortunately.

[@ItsChurchieYall]

Oh my god yes and its terrifying. I'm constantly scared of that happening

[@LDrosophila]

That's usually a positive when you associate as a male

[@tennisgirl30]

There was one interview I watched where a girl thought she was trans and was influenced by all her friends at school. The parents switched her to a different school and she changed her mind about being trans. She said she was so grateful that her parents did that. It might be the only option for some

[@derflitermouse8976]

I was diagnosed with prostate cancer and prescribed bicalutamide (an antiandrogen medication). Basically it suppresses testosterone. In practice, it had huge negative impacts on my mind and body. My short term memory was gone… couldn’t remember breakfast by dinner time. No stamina, no desire, thoughts of suicide I’ve never experienced before… ABSOLUTE chaos! I’m a 59 year old man and just suppressing my testosterone screwed me up. What is happening to prepubescent children is INSANE! These children are having problems that could be treated and overcome… hell, they could simply be going through a phase they would grow out of if left alone. There is time to change LATER if it turns out their actually trans but maybe waiting is the best path… DO NO HARM!

[@robynlmt24]

I used to be an “angsty” depressed teenage girl. Im glad i didnt make any bold decisions that would ruin the rest of my life back then. Now im happily married with a baby.

[@suzannefogle8903]

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[@hackerman7835]

when I was 18 I thought I was going to be a rock star lol

[@MENACE-km6bd]

@@hackerman7835 When I was 18 I thought I was bisexual because I thought girls were pretty. When I was 17 I thought I was asexual because I didn't want to have sex with anyone. Kids need time to process who they are. I'm 22 now and I'm still not sure. 😧

[@yourmajesty8913]

ADANA exactly! People need to take time to figure out who they are, nobody decides during infancy

[@celesteaurigue5546]

Happily married with a baby too :)

[@antonlvdm]

I wore my mom's shoes and jewelery when I was a kid, played with my sister and her friend's dolls. They did my hair, gave me make up makeovers. When people came over I always sat with the women. As a teen I wore skinny jeans before it was a thing. Imagine if I was born in todays time. I may have been coaxed into something like this. Now I'm 39, happily married and wearing comfortable clothes. We all go through phases and change as time goes by. It is absurd that this is even a thing in our society!

[@Lady_de_Lis]

@Vito Adame True. But there are trans activists and influencers who insist that you don't need gender dysphoria to be trans, and who still encourage such people to make permanent changes to their bodies in spite of that. I know it's not all of them spreading such misinformation, but it's enough to be causing problems for people. For many years, I believed I was actually a boy that had been born in a girl's body by some crazy mistake. I didn't dislike my body, I just felt like--personality wise--I didn't fit in with girls and that I was much more "boy-like" in how my brain worked. I know for a fact, if I'd been born just a little later than I was, I might've been persuaded to make some drastic changes to my body to help me feel better about myself. Thankfully, I overcame my discomfort with being female just one or two years before trans activism and influencers became so prevalent. Not saying trans people are all just like me and OP, but we need to remember the vulnerable children and teens out there who are like us, who are being misled into thinking gender transition will solve their emotional and psychological problems. I don't wanna know how devastated I would have been if I'd irreparably deepened my voice, developed facial hair, etc, just because I'd made a rash and desperate decision which ultimately wasn't right for me. Then, I probably WOULD have dysphoria.

[@Ladysalvador]

Vito Adame that’s not what he’s saying. His point is today there is a huge influence coming from social media. Young kids are questioning if they should transition because they like the color pink or something stupid like that. Just because a 5 year old girl plays with trucks, doesn’t mean they should become a boy. Toys, colors, clothes should not be a factor for transitioning! Too many kids are confused because of social media!

[@mailnoslihp95]

@Vito Adame they just said that most kids grow out of it and if they still havent by adulthood then transition. So no children should ever transition until they become adults

[@darrylwayne1292]

I did the same shit when I was a kid. I’m 20 now and have a girlfriend, lowkey think I may be bi but never been more “manly” in my life. Strange how odd sexuality can be

[@TheOtherOne122]

Right I saw my mom and sister putting fun colors on their fingernails and decided I wanted to put fun colors on my fingernails too then slowly chip away at them. Thank god I didn’t have a parent who would take using nail polish (before I was even in elementary school) as a sign that I wanted to turn myself into a eunuch.

[@marialeon6765]

I've seen this problem a lot for autistic girls, and as an autistic girl myself, I kinda understand where it comes from. We find it hard to match societal expectations and, in many ways, we may not be traditionally feminine. I find funny how people say "things don't have a gender" unless they wanna tag you with gender dysphoria. I've never doubted my sexuality, but I always had comments that I was "masculine", even a friend used to call me Mario; people tell me I'm intimidating, and I'm taller than average for my country. Thank God I wasn't a teen in this day and age because maybe I would have been diagnosed with gender dysphoria for "behaving like a man" and having a somewhat grungy/androgynous aesthetic as a teen.

[@dudepool7530]

Huh. Almost like reading about myself gender swapped. People always thought I was gay...

[@bridaw8557]

Thank you for addressing this. It’s very hard for neurodiverse girls and young ladies to feel like they fit in socially. We want to be somebody we aren’t. It’s isolating since the world doesn’t cater to us. We are misjudged and don’t get to like ourselves for what we bring to the table! Different is not less than. Going through puberty and youngadulthood is much harder for us. Wanting to change gender and body is a natural coping mechanism, albeit maladaptive, to deal with all this. More support, counseling, mentoring, groups, and activities should be in place for us. So glad you are who you are and are able to speak from experience about this. You can truly help you fellow sisters in this.

[@marialeon6765]

@@bridaw8557 I don't like the term neurodiversity, it's merely political and it was born from feminist theory and it supports a lot of these problems we're facing and hindering scientific research on autism. Indeed, it's maladaptive behavior and neurodiverse tribe will tell that it's "normal" for us while autistic girls get diagnosed with dysphoria and then finish themselves because that was not the answer.

[@marialeon6765]

@@bridaw8557 If you want to know more, the term was coined by a woman called Judy Singer.

[@theresearcher253]

As someone with experience of anorexia I feel very strongly about this. Would it be OK for a doctor to say to an anorexic, 'okay, I see what you mean, you need to eat less'?

[@DeltaDanner]

When a schizophrenic hears people that aren’t there we don’t tell society to talk to the “people” too

[@marikasdaughter6263]

@@DeltaDanner If it doesn't affect me I don't care but they're taking these delusions too far and expecting others to cater to them too... that's where I draw the line. You are a consenting adult and choose to do that go right ahead, but don't expect others to buy into just because you have.

[@idontwantahandle510]

I thought I was a professional skate boarder when I was 15. At 16 I was a stoner. At 17 I was a bow hunter. At 18 I was a Mormon until I was 23. Glad I had the freedom to experience life and change my mind as I grew and matured. Thank God none of those decisions were permanent.

[@sadhu7191]

Hardest part is planning tattoos you won't outgrow

[@Kat-rc7xz]

@@sadhu7191 aint that the truth lmao

[@amyfox5191]

Balance that dude x

[@ellamclaren2541]

What a cool dude

[@LDrosophila]

Did you always know what your gender was? Did you ever question that?

[@RedBeardPirate87]

The fact that when having a proper conversation or debate you have to worry about watching your words because you might offend someone is somewhat depressing for me to think about.

[@RabidMouser]

Brett Albright Some of us can only hold our words back for so long. And due to the recent increase of intolerance from the people that we try to not offend, a lot of us are at our limit when it comes to being kind with our words. Have to just start telling people the truth from now on, no matter how mean it is.

[@quintonwilson8565]

It should be more than "somewhat" depressing: suppression of this freedom is the beginning stage to hell.

[@RedBeardPirate87]

It is more than somewhat depressing. I didn’t want to be too much of a downer. Rabid... we should’ve never gotten away from telling people the truth and how it really is. We have created a world that I don’t recognize. That and the Internet

[@franklingoodwin]

Isn't that called being respectful? I was told as a kid to watch my words because if you chat shit to the wrong person you might get a smack in the mouth...but that might just be me

[@slipknuts]

To these people having an opinion = hate speech and they bully you into submission. if you agree 99% with what they say, you’re still an enemy because it’s not 100%

[@ALEJANDROGONZALEZ-hc6dy]

"Teenage angst" seems to last into people's 30s nowadays. Seriously. I'm 27 years old, almost 28, and it seems like people my age never got over the whole "teenage rebel" stage. I think the slow maturity and development within young adults nowadays is contributing to this problem.

[@Beatit444]

I presented myself as a boy growing up. It made me feel comfortable to hide myself. Im amazingly happy being a woman now. Not a super girly one but a woman...

[@kopasedik]

I don't have kids yet. Shit like this makes me terrified of ever having kids. It's like there is no place left on the planet where I know I could raise them safely.

[@JADiaz10]

Lucas Hobbes relax Karen 😂

[@sebsolace8281]

was there ever?

[@justsomeguy6336]

JADiaz10 How are they a Karen?

[@luke2183]

Welcome to planet Earth where life has always been shitty since the beginning and the internet points don’t matter

[@lolkobe]

Just don't give them access to technology until they know the basics.

[@saerudayo]

The fact that this even has to be discussed shows the state of this world

[@kennedysan1045]

Don't worry, the Coco Pops monkey is racist.

[@hodoprime]

The fact that it CANT be discussed shows the state of the world.

[@munchbox7446]

There's way worse things going on but morons like you think this is indicative of 'the state of the world'. That right there is more indicative of the state of the world than kids being allowed to choose how they present themselves outwardly, lmao.

[@bthomas2782]

My favorite Joe Rogan moment 😂 kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4fGlWmPl7iaeKM

[@juanvaldez5422]

I just left a similar comment

[@justinjex1]

I have practiced medicine for 20 years. Its true, we have no control over patients decisions in many ways. Pain was the newest vital sign and we had to treat it, now you can loose your license if you give too much. Physicians have not a lot of say in these matters.

[@americandream74]

You have more say then you realize. Doctor's need to speak up against this madness. It is your obligation to do no harm. Speak up!

[@PatyM00N]

They call it gender dysphoria. I call it unresolved childhood trauma.

[@allom3069]

Exactly what it is 🙌

[@XXthekingofyouXX]

I regret all the dumb tattoos I got in my youth. I can't imagine coming to the stark realization a sex change was a mistake. Especially if it was a "fad"

[@munchbox7446]

Good thing it isn't a fad. :)

[@lip.w.8910]

@@munchbox7446 Not for all but it is for most. It shouldn't be this normal hating your body and self. It's like the emos, much less prevalent today but they still exist, the majority were just a fad though

[@gamehardy]

cup_ramen the fact is that if most of the trans kids were the same age 15 years ago they Would be emo kids you better believe it

[@DsiakMondala]

@@lip.w.8910 If by not for all you mean for all sure.

[@lolzwtv2792]

thats cause you made a rash decision. not everyone is like you specially not trans people, cause, you know, there a lot of discrimination against them.

[@sandyisntmandy4853]

Wait saying “gender dysphoria” is transphobic .... but it’s like a medical definition

[@devincognito8932]

Got something better for you. A sexual reassignment procedure is now transphobic. It must be referred to as a gender confirmation surgery... 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@user-eh1gc7xo7q]

It’s ridiculous. I had this argument with someone on reddit and was called a racist, a trump supporter and banned from the subreddit. It’s scary

[@AnnaBucci]

It's not. She's just saying that to make trans rights supporters look unreasonable.

[@AnnaBucci]

@@devincognito8932 "gender confirmation surgery." Nope, it's gender affirmation surgery.

[@sujimayne]

These people run a cult, they don't like science if it can be used against their cause.

[@No-sv6mu]

My 13 year old daughter can't even decide what she wants for dinner. Yet a girl the same age that goes to the school I work at (who makes HORRIBLE decisions and is extremely mentally ill) is allowed to say she wants to be a boy. She even went as far as to go to appointments to get testosterone. She ended up not transitioning, she is just a lesbian. But her twin sister is now a boy. It's mass hysteria with these teen girls.

[@doubledogdareya]

*Ahem* It's really not. I'm so glad that boy was able to figure out who he wants to be. Children aren't stupid, and sometimes it just isn't a phase.

[@No-sv6mu]

@doubledogdareya well this same student (bio girl) who thought she was a boy, then a lesbian... is now.... wait for it! A girl who is boy crazy! Cause these kids are too immature to make decisions like this.

[@kendallpaige4160]

I’m an associate MFT and let me tell you a lot of my class was hyper left and wouldn’t question some with gender issues at all. I find if you really question some of these kids it’s not that deep or dysphoric. It was a way to escape the pressures and societal pits of being a women/man or to side step being lesbian/gay. It’s not about talking someone out of who they are, but helping insure they know themselves and become who they really are without putting themselves into a box that feels good but doesn’t fit right.

[@pricesymonej]

well said

[@adamwhitehead1253]

Don't make permanent decisions based on temporary feelings.

[@Tecolote41]

This quote is used for suicidal people as well

[@helloamrose1690]

Vito Adame nope well in most cases

[@michaellittlewood3032]

I transitioned from an eucalyptus tree to a cactus, and people say I'm a prick.

[@timorean320]

I transitioned from a horse, to a donkey, and my family thinks I'm an ass.

[@Anonymous-cb5uw]

Well, I would have done the same in your situation. I wouldn't want chlamydia ridden koalas looking at me with their hungry eyes or climbing all over and nibbling me.

[@Skreamies]

Congrats on the transition, wish you all the best.

[@ravashsphinx]

You win one +Internet

[@TheTreesus]

That shit just made me spit out my water haha

[@dr.antonenewcombe9592]

I am a 25 year old female and I was in the hospital for 279 days. I had to learn how to walk again and everything and I just went out for the first time two weeks ago and noticed a group of friends at the thrift store who were all trans or non binary. They were like 12/13 years old. I was also like why are these parents letting their 13 year old kids run around downtown Reno? I’ve met men who paint their fingernails and grow their hair out and claim they’re non binary or trans and use it as a ploy to get chicks then a little while later they’re back to themselves or just claim non binary instead of trans. Times are changing and holy shit did I see a change in a year of being away from society.

[@hollyroxy25]

When I was a kid I was a “tomboy”, I hated dolls & anything traditionally girly. I loved playing with cars, action figures, video games, & anything else seen as “for boys”, I also always related more to boys & had more friends that were boys. I still love things today that more guys relate to but as I grew up Into a teenager I started to embrace more “girly” things. Growing up you’re just trying to find yourself & your interests & feelings constantly change and evolve. It’s completely insane to think that a child will know 100% what they want for their future & make a huge life decision at a young age. Trans people should not speak for everyone and presume to know what’s best for everyone else just because it was for them. Furthermore, parents that allow their children to take hormones & have surgeries should be found criminally negligent. Child abuse is not a parent wanting their child to wait until adulthood so they know for sure & don’t make a huge life altering mistake. Child abuse is letting your child do these things. This should be obvious & common sense!

[@janberkemeier7406]

"Trans people should not speak for everyone" - you, speaking for everyone in the same fucking comment

[@thehutch7728]

I teach middle school, and I was shocked when she spoke about groups of kids deciding to be trans together, because that happened last year at my school. One of my kiddos even said to me after class. “I think I’ve decided to be trans, and I wanted to tell you first because I trust you.” I was surprised, because I’d known this kid for a few years, but I carefully said to him that I didn’t think people CHOSE to be trans - other people I’ve known either are or aren’t. He said that after talking to the rest of his friend group (mostly outcasts, two of whom also identified as trans), he decided that it sounded right to him. I didn’t know how to handle that.

[@DONTHATETHEPLAYA321]

Satan lies too us..... And he's good at it too.

[@slambrew3849]

It’s not real. The study has massive flaws.

[@louiscarr981]

Mad ting

[@whosthetank777]

Yeah well that's why I chose to stay at home to teach my children instead of letting the public system pollute them

[@donlean2164]

Tell him dont make permanent decisions based on temporary feelings

[@paolo2012]

The fact that there are serious debates about whether it's ethical to inject substances into a kid's body, to change a kid's biochemistries before he's old enough to drink, is ASTOUNDING.

[@zacharyshort384]

I agree. Of course I feel this way towards circumcision as well. Any permanent alteration done to a child who has not yet come to the age of reason.

[@chi111y]

zachary short Except curcumcision has zero side effects or negative consequences on human development.

[@alecrochon3531]

@@chi111y Wrong, less sexual pleasure because the tip of the male tool becomes more used to being rubbed, therefore reducing sensations.

[@asmooshi9752]

@@alecrochon3531 then that's not really a problem guys that are circumcised still try to hold back cumming within 30 seconds of having sex 🤦‍♂️😂😂

[@munchbox7446]

I bet you're an anti-vaxxer too, lmfao.

[@helioselexandros]

My 12yo son went to a summer camp last year with other boys and girls around his age. The majority or at least half of the girls in his age group said they're non-binary and or trans. Being a teen and feeling awkward is hard enough on its own and my heart goes out to anyone struggling with finding themselves. Allowing kids so young to permanently alter their body/mind so easily is going to be disastrous. The way you think/feel at 13 is not how you will think/feel at 20.

[@marikasdaughter6263]

No one thinks about the future when a huge chunk of the population is trans and unable to reproduce, the population is already dipping because the boomers are dying off now and then the population will dip again because a large group of people who had a thought at some point in their life that changed it forever when they might not necessarily like the outcome later on... What do they think people will just have more babies than necessary so all these people can adopt? It's not going to happen.

[@lindab1792]

Show from 2 years ago. Thanks Joe, you covered this issue before it hit the mainstream.

[@cameronangel1013]

Imagine being shackled to the choices you made at 17 God help me

[@lolzwtv2792]

lmao if someone makes a choice they regret thats on them and their bad thinking. thats not the case for almost every trans person.

[@brynleyjones2674]

Not just trans. Student loans also

[@bellemorrin6699]

Being trans isnt a choice

[@Malepresentingtimelord]

@@bellemorrin6699 of course not but that’s a binary statement. The content is about young impressionable women who have many mental health issues making life altering decisions with no medical oversight that will follow them forever and who may VERY WELL end up regretting it. This is a very complex issues and it seems like “the woke” want to oversimplify and bully people into being in lockstep with their beliefs by assassinating the character of any one who questions them. AND THIS IS ALL COMING FROM A PLACE OF CONCERN not because people want to fucking oppress you

[@RestrictedHades]

@@brynleyjones2674 it’s easier to get rid of student loans than getting your phallus back

[@booksandthings8297]

As a woman I can definitely say being sexualised when you are really young going through puberty makes you hate your female body. I can definitely understand wanting nothing to do with it. It can be traumatic. Wanting to transition can be a defense mechanisme. And that's really sad because you don't get the chance to overcome your internalized shame as you grow up.

[@pricesymonej]

WELL SAID

[@killua3389]

honestly you should talk to people about it. i spoke to my dad and it changed everything. he said. reality won’t conform to your feelings or constructs the people who care bout you will. you should just put your best foot toward and think critically for myself. it made me realise i’m a female wuth sexuality. it’s a beautiful thing yet but the world would not treat it like you would

[@sterilizedmilk2347]

I'm sorry you have to go through that

[@JohnDoe-et8th]

You hit the nail on the head. There's a reason all these girls don't manifest early in life. It is the horrific culture we live in, which is still not acknowledged as totally destructive to women.

[@kaydiglawson7767]

Not all females feel that way going through puberty. I personally did not. I'm sorry you did. That had to be hard.

[@gofreely]

At 48, I am so relieved that as a young girl who was a tomboy, I wasn’t coerced into thinking I was transgender.

[@liananima5990]

I like how she talks, no nonsense.

[@jopo7996]

Testosterone therapy also makes your head larger, makes you want to get tattoos, and makes you an excellent podcaster.

[@bafeink2]

😂

[@fishy7901]

I'm sure the weed did that.

[@suakeli]

Latest studies have shown that testosterone correlates with significantly increased interest in DMT, elk meat and videos of a chimpanzee wrestling a bear.

[@cleanbeans7496]

Youre saying he is a she or she was a he or he wasn’t mean to be a she or a he?

[@stalemurfies2031]

In fact your head will never stop growing

[@britbloc123]

When I was a kid I wanted to be a Ninja Turtle. I curse my parents for not encouraging me to fully transition into a turtle and help me prepare for adult life.

[@kateofone]

When I was a kid I thought God was real then I grew up

[@toreibowe4262]

@@kateofone terrible joke

[@cincyplayer11]

This was two years ago, I would love for research on what's being done right now. It's absolutely crimes against humanity.

[@s.aura.h8084]

For a period of time I genuinely felt I was a boy in a woman's body. I looked in the mirror and saw a little boy... I wasn't happy, I wasn't comfortable in my body, I wore large, men's clothing to cover up. Then I started to heal, got happy, got comfortable and now I'm thriving in a woman's body and I love it. This is a complex subject that scares me, I worry people are misinformed and misunderstanding their internal world

[@Antigone10]

No joke, you should not be allowed to chemically castrate your child and you should not be allowed to cut off parts of your children when they cannot consent as an adult.

[@sadface7457]

@Reality Cheque It not emotional intelegence but self- awareness and understanding.

[@iiC3QUEENxx]

Parents that have these procedures done have their own demons and they are using their children as proxy’s . You can’t even smoke a cigarette or drink legally until you are 21 .. you are not fully developed physically or mentally well into your twenties . This should be outlawed. I think people should have to go under multiple medical exams for their mental state and after several specialists diagnose them then consider these life altering procedures. Self diagnosis is not enough .

[@Antigone10]

@Galva Tron disgusting

[@Antigone10]

@@iiC3QUEENxx to be fair, baby boys have their pleasure nerves cut off in the US like girls have their pleasure nerves cut off in Muslim countries.....wait thats not remotely fair.

[@FruityHachi]

same with circumcision, cutting off parts of your children when they cannot consent

[@dangeejr]

Seems like this issue really peaked around the time social media came around.

[@doubleboy2388]

I think it will die down in the not so distant future. People both from a societal and medical stand point are realizing this isn't such a great thing. As you see detransitioners all the time now

[@cheesecake4648]

@Starri stop with the "phobic" issue. Nobody is scared of this. Underage children shouldn't be taking hormones or mutilating themselves. and guess what, you are still young. Wait and see.

[@beanybabyrabie]

@@doubleboy2388 that didn’t age well did it

[@beanybabyrabie]

@@doubleboy2388 still happening with institutions and schools behind it now, while detransitioners and sane professionals are silenced

[@doubleboy2388]

@@beanybabyrabie I wrote that literally a year ago. When I say the not so distant future I mean about 10 years...In that by the next generation they will have learned, both the medical field and the general public that this whole era is out of control. Nothing is going to change in a year.

[@ang_ro]

When I was 14 in the 90s, I dressed in baggy men's clothes, listened to gangsta rap, worse hats and played basketball etc. I didn't want to be a boy... I was presenting my persona that way because puberty and turning into a woman was scary to me. I wasn't ready to embrace the sexual attention, body issues, etc so I was hiding behind a masculine persona. If this was going on today I'd probably think I was trans and start taking hormones for something that mentally corrected itself about a year later. Scary stuff.

[@TheRisky9]

Me too. Never had any interest in being a boy. Just wanted to feel safe and be a little different, but not over the top like being goth or something.

[@lifeafterdisability8180]

I changed the way I felt and viewed things 4 to 5 times from 17 to 35. No way our kid can make a life-changing decision like that is 17 and truly understand the consequences. Still a baby damn near.

[@KaiDecadence]

They don't. Read up the de-transitioner stories and the anguish and pain they felt for having "Transitioned" in younger age and are now dealing with the negative health side effects from it. It's horrible and some of these people are in their early to mid 20s even.

[@lifeafterdisability8180]

@@KaiDecadence heart breaking..

[@MCsCreations]

As someone who lived with depression since 1992... You won't be happier. Doesn't matter what happens or what changes. You WON'T be happier unless you learn to live well with yourself. You need to learn to like yourself first. Not even that is going to fix everything... But it gets much easier to keep living.

[@apollo1573]

Yeah exactly. Nothing in your life will change if you don’t. You need to accept where you are in life and try to work your way up. It’s not easy but it’s possible

[@mattiOTX]

Oh I like me, I just can't accept what's between my legs. Its not for lack of trying, but my brain dislikes it like if my brother was dating a hussy and I had to deal with her. Could i put up with her? Sure to some extent but dont ask me to live with her, one of us would get killed. Same with what's between my legs but I'm the only one that can die.

[@MCsCreations]

@@basicallyjustollie4834 I do believe you, but I really meant in a deeper level. You know? I'm a ugly man, it's not easy to accept either. LOL - But you need to like yourself as a human being, really. And if you don't you should change what you don't like, so you can be in peace with yourself. The sexual part is MUCH easier today, thankfully. There are surgeries, hormones and so on... But depression is hard. Because you can't live with yourself, you'd rather die... I know, I've been there more than once. You know? But, still... Life's worth living. Tomorrow can be a much better day. And I can always go outside and fly in FPV with a quad, rc airplane... Something. It helps a LOT. At least for me.

[@mattiOTX]

@Sarah MinI hate what's in between my legs because its gender dysphoria. Logically there is nothing to hate but I have irrational hatred and disgust. Body dysmorphia and dysphoria are not the same at all. One is seeing a twisted view of reality, the other is an illogical rejection of reality. My brain cant be cured because had my body been female or my brain not been doused in estrogen in the womb I'd be just like everyone else and that would be nice

[@mattiOTX]

@Sarah Min btw your I'm a psychologist and licensed part either is a lie or you should lose your license. I would expect an actual mental health professional to know the differences between body dysphoria and body dysmorphia which are the exact opposite of one another. You should also know as a doctor that in some cases body dysphoria as a symptom is sometiems apart of the diagnosis of body integrity disorder and you should know what the treatment is for extreme cases. So please don't lie to me. You can say you have an opinion without having to give me a fake authority because obviously you are not a doctor. I'm not a child, I actually know my science and do my research. I have actual problems I have to deal with so please at least don't treat me as a moron.

[@truffles5953]

When I was 12 I thought I was trans and I really really wanted a vagina but after a few years, I realized that's not really what I wanted and now I'm a 19-year-old bisexual man. I love this video because it perfectly summarises gender dysphoria and isn't afraid to speak up. Thanks Joe you made my day.

[@mlenzi5476]

Bruh, imagine deciding you want a vagina

[@gandalfthegrey]

This woman doesn't summarize gender dysphoria. She is not an expert on trans identity.

[@Colby00]

Gross

[@lindseymarie3532]

I'm also 19 and I 100% agree. In 8th/9th grade I knew five trans boys (who were all friends with each other) and by senior year, only one identified as trans (and he still does). None of them went on T at that time, but imagine if 4/5 did and they were stuck with that...

[@emir5009]

Omg same . I thought I was trans as a teenager. It was because of abuse. But I am so glade that those days are over and I didn't plan to go through with it

[@skylarfoxx2811]

The first thing I was told when I started my transition is that testosterone won't solve all my problems after several years with a professional who agreeded that i was actually prepared for the process as an adult. And most girls who act like they want to don't actually want to transition

[@goldenyarn7892]

I was just talking to my husband that we are very lucky bc we are the last of a dying breed. We remember what life was like before and I appreciate my youth so much more now at 37 with 2 children than I ever have. It feels like the magic of youth is being manipulated out of the human experience and it's just awful. There's no balance.

[@marcusvail6813]

What’s crazy is I’m super glad I was born in the 80’s. I feel sorry for the young teens.

[@TheUniverseWorksForUsBeings]

Same here...I was a tom boy..sexualized at 5. Was always taller than most boys at 5'10" since I've been 12, puberty, womanly coke bottle hips and I hated it. I probably would've been convinced by msm, and adults I should think would protect/give me good advice...instead psychologically abusing me. I wore make up when I was 18, ugly duckling syndrome..came into myself comfortably.

[@joethestrat]

"If it looks like a cult, voices the obscene unverifiable rhetoric of a cult, and also abuses kids like a cult..." ~Finish this sentence.

[@scribesarchive289]

Prot its tOtaLy not a cult

[@alwayswinning7282]

It's Disney land :D

[@OdinsLab]

You have to pay a licence fee.

[@hutchdaniel2703]

It's catholisism

[@toastghost2448]

sounds like religion

[@everythingisalie3363]

I’m so happy Joe Rohan is talking about this

[@zainabsyedahmed5194]

Joe you are such a great role model I look up to on "how to precisely ask specific question" and lead a discussion. Wow!

[@myaccount5239]

Not sure Joe is a great role model lol but he brings a balanced perspective. I like the way he talks.

[@gabriellesimoneau9958]

Medical consent where I live is 14, didn’t realize how early that is

[@Ryan-vi5mz]

So you can mutilate your genitals before you can get your permit? Jesus Christ

[@devcon28]

At 14 I thought I knew everything but I didn't know shit

[@anthonyy_vivid5438]

@@devcon28 lmfao

[@zenithskull]

Wade Wilson at 14 you still are under your parents control.

[@zeffery101]

Depending on the issue, the ages vary, but in California, medical consent is as low as 12 years old!!

[@niku10]

"Once i was a male in a female's body, then my mother gave me birth"

[@prettyvacant3605]

And your dad was a man in a woman's body for that to happen 😁

[@fawnieee]

"gave me birth"

[@khristinebognot]

😂😂

[@mannydaboss9937]

Amen 🙏

[@lauranaselow4886]

I wish Joe & this lady would do another update to this today!

[@Onyxxu20]

I hated my body as a young teenager-adult woman and a victim of SA I often wonder how many of the young NB and F-M people went through a similar experience to me but with the influence of social media and communities. Teens almost always have a lack of identity and the prospect of having a community and friends is incredibly appealing.

[@spawnjg]

One thing she forgot to mention. Its all about the money. Everyone profits outside of the parents and child, or person who's transitioning.

[@eugenioelizondo481]

Yes sir

[@lolzwtv2792]

ok so hormones are about 5 dollars a month at MOST. surgeries are expensive yes ofc, surgeons spend hours on the table working on something very sensitive. like many other surgeries they are necessary, not to you but to people with gender dysphoria. your experience and view does not overweight the rest. whats hard to understand?

[@maryoomaaziz3606]

lolz wtv Oh really? I think not. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fpy0mmNoqq1-fLc

[@isolabarge4196]

exactly

[@spinflux]

@@lolzwtv2792 It’s also doctor appointments, a lifelong patient is lucrative. Plus treating the comorbidities that go with transitioning, the side effect treatments, referral care appointments, therapies, etc. A physician’s dream is a lifelong patient.

[@AshtonColby]

I’m a transgender man (female to male). I transitioned with testosterone at 20 years old. I’m 28. I’m happy with my transition and wouldn’t take it back after a decade of knowing who I am. I’ve never regretted it once. HOWEVER, I do agree that people need to realize that physical gender transition is like anything else external, new job, new car, new relationship: it is never is going to lead to long term happiness. That has to come from the inside out. I am a certified yoga teacher, I meditate, do yoga, do personal development, find meaning and purpose in other ways to contribute to the world. I believe in God, I have a deep spiritual practice. All of those things are important along with physical transition if you are going to move forward transitioning medically. It is both. The physical aspects of transition is important for many people who are transgender and it has to be holistic. It has to be internal too. It has to focus on mental health, spiritual well-being. Intention is everything. It has to be focused on being a better version of the person you already are.

[@dylan351321]

If you believe in a god, do you think he created you? If so, why do you think he gave you the wrong gender/body? Why would an all powerful, all knowing god do that to someone? Did he make a mistake, then he’s not all powerful. Did he knowingly do that to you knowing you desires the opposite inside, then he’s not worth worshipping or praising.

[@AshtonColby]

dylan351321 I get this question a lot. You can relate, in your own life, that the things that have pushed you outside of your comfort zone has made you extremely insightful from what you take away from the experience. We all choose, on some level, the life we sign up for before we come into this physical body. I wanted to learn the impact of living 20 as female and now living as male as I plan to for the rest of my life. The profound compassion, empathy, insight, perspective of what it is to trans-cend genders in one lifetime is something I value. It’s one way to look at it: “I was trapped in my body and I had to undergo this hideous, excruciating physical transformation in order to be happy” OR how I see it beyond what I said before: “It really wasn’t that bad physically, it really isn’t this tragic thing people make it out to be. The biggest lesson I learn, the personal growth, comes from gaining the emotional resilience skills it takes when the external world, on a daily basis, wants to call me insane or disgusting just for living my life. You get very strong and assured of who you really are, I trusted my inner compass and it improved the quality of my life. Too many people don’t listen to their inner compass. They don’t push themselves outside the bounds of pleasing other people”. Truly, to really answer your question: I got closer to God during my transiting. God is beyond male or female. Me stepping forth in my transition was unplugging from the Matrix, learning we are so much more than our bodies and external perception. God was with me every step of the way, just like God was with my little sister when she had cancer. Same with every other person and struggle. We aren’t meant to have a life without being pushed. That’s how our soul expands. Transitioning genders was the most soul expanding experience I could have picked for this life time. ❤️

[@ChatMort69420]

Thank you so much for sharing your experience. That’s the scariest part - a lot of kids think that transitioning will solve all their problems, then when they’re still struggling afterward, they despair. You have a very mature and realistic perspective, one that most people haven’t adopted.

[@dheerajb1883]

But couldn't you have done all of those things like yoga, religion etc without transitioning? These things add value to anyone's life..🤔

[@cptwale]

Very insightful perspective, I'm rooting for you in your journey through life.

[@codebro9728]

It’s only getting worse man I hope ppl step up and vote to stop this.

[@brownbrood5]

I thought this video was posted 2 hours ago. Took me a minute to realize this was 2 YEARS ago it's so relevant!

[@davethomas543]

Remember when kids got to just be kids and weren't bombarded with shit most adults have a hard time processing ?

[@zacharyshort384]

I do not remember this, but then again religion and church has been around for a while :D

[@user-e1337]

Def got less at least

[@halfirish8056]

I remember. Being a kid now is not easy.

[@DB98000]

I totally get the point about young women coming out as trans when they dont have gender dysphoria. When I was a really young girl, around 9 years old, an older boy in my neighbourhood would constantly sexually harass me. Call me names, make comments on my body, tell me how much he wanted to have sex with me. I was scared to leave my house. When I hit puberty, it terrified me to think that my body parts would be seen as purely sexual, and that no one would like me for who I was, they'll only want me for my breasts, hips and ass. At that age, I wanted to be Male, because I thought that changing my body and becoming someone completely different was the answer. I looked into chest binding and I used to dress in men's clothes. This was back in maybe 2007 or 2008, so the movement wasnt as prominent as it is now. It terrifies me to think that if it was, i might have taken those steps at a young age. I'm 25 now and really happy as a woman and wouldn't change it. I'm not saying gender dysphoria doesnt exist. It absolutely does, but i think so many people confuse gender dysphoria with just wanting to be a different version of themselves so that they can run away from who they currently are, instead of trying to change themselves from the inside and work on trauma that might be triggering these feelings...

[@kmoneylove98]

Very well put. I’m glad you’re happy and healthy now !

[@viviannichols3582]

I always related more to boys/men and wanted to grow up to be one for a while. I tried using the bathroom standing up, begged for short hair, wore guy clothes, played with masculine toys, etc. I am a straight woman now. I still don’t have every stereotypical trait of a woman. I don’t like makeup, I don’t like pink... But none of that makes me an actual man. I’m so grateful that no one confused me as a kid. They just let me explore and figure it out.

[@pseudonamed]

I hear similar stories from women who detransitioned.. the feeling hits around puberty when suddenly their body is being sexualised and they don't want it (either because they're lesbians but don't realise it yet, or they're just not sexual yet, or they just want to be a tomboy and play with boys without it all being an excuse to sleep with them or whatever). They find a community either online or in their friends group that tells them if they don't like their body they must be trans, all will be fixed if they become a man.

[@lauriethomas4145]

Exactly. This interview missed addressing the elephant in the room- harrassment and abusé from boys is rampant.

[@zeroceiling]

…You raise good points…but would only add that the pressures on late maturing males…with underdeveloped penis..or the inability to respond when it’s expected creates its own circles of hell for boys and makes them wish at times that this pressure would just go away…

[@paulmalissa9769]

I never realised how good of a podcaster or interviewer rather joe is.. he actually sets his own opinions aside and asks his questions extremely objectivly like he doesnt have an own opinion about it (maybe a little bit but very very little) so He really gets an honest answer from His guest that isn't influenced by him obviously stating his opinion in his question. Very good Podcast dude. I mean when I think about it Joe has a Lot of Interview experience but its still nice to see especially on a topic like trans etc. where peoples opinions go into the extreme.

[@yoshi999z7]

I think I am gonna homeschool my kids, bar them from internet and social media till they are 16. This world is doomed

[@brianconrod]

@Starri Are you sick? You don’t allow children to make such extreme diagnoses for things like these, there are therapists and psychologists that are available to confirm the metal status of people and make judgements based on what would be best for the patient.

[@misarabage1359]

I was the angsty tomboy with suicidal thoughts but then I sublimated my anger to sports and education and now I am very fit and attractive woman with good diploma lmao

[@jamalltravels]

Sa Ba I would leave out the education part...

[@tashajoykin5192]

@@jamalltravels Why tho?

[@NeoDragonEWW]

This video needs a higher like count. I completely believe trans feelings in early teens is the new "emo".

[@Mrgx150]

Okay Mr TransExpert

[@rwalker0130]

Mrgx150 gotta be an expert to say “I think” in a KZbin comment huh? How about the lady in the video- is she an expert? Are you an expert every time you make a complaint about, say, Trump?

[@apollo1573]

Mrgx150 you’re delusional based on your many replies to comments

[@munchbox7446]

Well you'd be wrong.

[@juliandelgado905]

nah, five years later and im still trans as ever. its not a phase dude. dont talk about things you dont know about.

[@judithhowell5738]

Joe is so astute and articulate. That makes this podcast is so dear to me. Plus I love his voice

[@tcacclikecatch]

Holy hell, I thought it was tough when my kids were teens in the 90’s, and I was worried about them getting a stupid looking tattoo they’d later regret, so I put my foot down until they were 18. Wow. I’d say this is in the top 5 of the worst things that came out of social media where our kids are concerned.

[@danamcwhite]

Give them elk meat

[@I_am_a_human_not_a_commodity]

@O Probably healthier lol

[@damienturner6368]

You could market that into some trendy fad rich left liberals would eat up.

[@Marksc11]

The fact this is even a discussion should make everyone realize the twilight zone we are headed to

[@JackassBauer1]

Maybe it is the end, and the "twilight zone" is already bigger than we think, and we are starting the dismantling process? Maybe it is just wishful thinking from my part....

[@dudepool7530]

Now Ive got Gold Earring stuck in my head. Thanks. No, seriously, thats a gnarly guitar riff to have in my brainpan.

[@veritasinvicta8128]

I'm shocked that this truthful video hasn't been censored off of yt by now.

[@chesterbesterfeild]

Imagine if you surgically altered yourself to be the clik you joined in highschool. Not only are you goth, but youve tattooed the black makeup on and permanently blackened your nails for life. Your decision to alter yourself at 17 will be there for life. Better hope you stay "consistant"

[@lolzwtv2792]

hey stupid look at the comment below

[@bellemorrin6699]

Trans teens arent getting surgery.. the most they are dling is going on hormones and in most plsces you cant get them till your 16

[@Malepresentingtimelord]

@@bellemorrin6699 16 is WAYY too young to be making decisions like taking hormones that will drastically alter your adulthood. I think the majority of us at 16 are the most confused we will ever be in our entire lives. In what universe is 16 mature and intelligent enough to make such life altering decisions? There is a good reason we have no power at that age. It’s because your still a child.

[@thetraveler1182]

@@bellemorrin6699 Do you know what *TESTOSTERONE* will do to a female at *16*?!! Or how about synthetic testosterone to a boy at 16? This is *INSANE!*

[@bellemorrin6699]

@@thetraveler1182 yes i do it will make trans men feel right in their own bodies. There are no baf side effects if thats what you inplying

[@TechnicalDifficulties]

No hate towards people who are transgender, they already go through enough. But why would you make irreversible changes to a kid that will make them sterile for life, especially when they haven't even gone through puberty, it's insane. People are thinking with their emotions. Especially when your around 4 or 5, where some kids don't even understand the concept of gender. This should not be condonable. In my opinion people should decide when their 18. Transitioning like that is something you can't come back from, but you never hear of the people who regret it.

[@IronFreakV]

I honestly don't understand how it is even allowed. The whole reason why kids can't drink, drive or get married until 18 in most countries is because they aren't supposed to make such decisions until they are at least a young adult. But this is allowed? Like it doesn't make sense in any way

[@Susanlbc]

Actually they are out there and talking but being blocked by slime media

[@bitesizeart6054]

The weird thing about MTF women is that they tend to pass better if hormones are introduced early though, because their voice doesn't drop. I wish there was a solid middleground, maybe puberty blockers to buy kids time to figure themselves out? For FTM guys though, you can transition easier after 18-21 since you just go through second puberty, your voice drops and you develop facial hair. So nothing different as to when you transition at 15 than when you transition at 21 if you're FTM.

[@Vispex]

As a trans person I agree with you. Kids should wait until they're 18 to make that decision. But until then they should talk with a therapist regularly.

[@cinnamon7435]

Even as a mentally stable person I can't imagine making a decision that would affect me for the rest of my life the beauty of life is that fact that it isn't permanent

[@zenopsy0149]

I'm glad that I lived in a time where I was allowed to be myself without being forced to make decisions that change my entire life

[@kingcronecker]

Kids shouldn't drink beer but at least a hangover wears off.

[@ItsMeRhaine]

Children should not be given the option to basically destroy their whole life

[@lolzwtv2792]

you just pointed out the actual issue that should be tackled and wasn't, the fact that transitioning is viewed as "destroying their whole lives". No children arent mature to make decisions, young adults who've had time to understand how they percieve themselves and how they feel are.

[@doubleboy2388]

@@lolzwtv2792 anyone under 18. When we say children we mean 17 and under. They're still just kids, and shouldn't have the option to ruin their lives.

[@lolzwtv2792]

Bobby Bonilla Bobcat being trans and transitioning is not ruining a life dummy don’t make me repeat myself

[@ItsMeRhaine]

lolz wtv you understand that the brain is still developing until age 25? So giving someone the option to drastically change themselves without fully understanding the weight of said decision could be have devastating consequences in the future if they so happen to decide that they no longer want to be trans. You understand that taking hormone supplements can have life long effects? So yeah possibly transitioning could have life ruining results if the person is not fully ready.

[@WolfSon26]

@@ItsMeRhaine I love how they say "dont make me repeat myself" like theyre your drill instructor on trans people or something lol

[@Kristinnnnnnlaughs]

I cried to my ex husband when we were 22 because my whole life I felt like when I was in my moms tummy something went wrong and I was born a girl ( I had a deep voice, no boobs or hips etc) I’m so happy I grew out of that. I never wanted to be a boy I wanted to be a girl I just didn’t feel like one until my 30s

[@russetwolf13]

Thaaaaat's gender dysphoria, it's not just for tranz.

[@lizberg8197]

Thanks guys for info 😁

[@NPC-wy3hw]

This was almost me. I was super uncomfortable with my body at 16-17 and had an eating disorder and I thought all of that was gender dysphoria. I followed a lot of popular trans and “non-binary” people on social media and was convinced that if I took hormones and transitioned like them I’d be happy. I’m so glad my parents kept me from going down that road

[@bridaw8557]

Thank you for your insight. I relate as I look back on my life at that age. All those girls not wanting to be in their body, I say to them, just give it time, it gets better.

[@jameslandin2559]

As a single father with a daughter going through this at her age, yhis is extremely helpful content. The parents have very little support to deal with these issues and however you choose to encourage or discourage information and conversations are key. And yes the school will not tell you they identify your child differently. I was shocked to say the least

[@pearlpearl3806]

Wow

[@pricesymonej]

THATS SO CRAZY, THAT WHOLE SENTENCE. "IDENTIFY YOUR CHILD DIFFERENTLY". MAKE IT MAKE SENSE, PLEASE. THIS WORLD IS OUT OF CONTROL.

[@cashkitty3472]

Take her out of school now

[@caitlinmenger8716]

Watch Jordan Petersons new video with a woman who specializes in the trauma parents go through with this fad effecting their children. Might help you. Good luck and God bless. I hope your daughter makes it through this and becomes a wonderful and happy mother someday like us old fashioned tomboys did before this social contagion took over.

[@q4bbs319]

Great interview 👍

[@chrisitan4909]

i love joe, he is a king. he questions statements made by guests no matter how confident they feel and continues to be an open acceptable reasonable man. I love him

[@APR944]

Thank you for having this discussion. I’m gay, work in healthcare and literally have seen clients come in and in one visit leave with Rx for hormones at very young ages 18 etc. and it’s insane. I really am concerned about long term affects of HRT and also the long term psychological affects etc.

[@janedoh2151]

It's part of the depopulation agenda.

[@lolzwtv2792]

anthony you work in healthcare, you should know better about health (mental health included) lmao also a trans woman allowed you to have the rights you have today. you shouldnt be apart of the population demonizing transition, if you had any knowledge on gay history.

[@lolzwtv2792]

@@janedoh2151 😂😂😂so is becoming gay in that case, right?

[@junglenashun9962]

I can respect that

[@beanybabyrabie]

Yes. They’re depopulating (sterilizing) creating a very fragile and unhealthy generation purposely. This is sick

[@fishingbob8374]

I regret almost every tattoo I got before the age of 20... just saying.

[@cassalyn8808]

I remember hating myself very young because everybody related being a girl with being weak or unable. I remember I acted like a boy in every way and became very independent to disassociate with all the negative things that came with being a girl. Being a girl sounded terrible and I didn’t like all the “ rules” other girls had to play by. There was never any positivity around it. Boys tell each other “quit acting like a girl” or “you’re being a sissy” and I thought what’s so bad about being a girl? I’m tough. I work hard, I play in the mud, go fishing, and rough my cousins up just like my boy cousins did. We are very hard on women and often tell them what they should and shouldn’t be very early.I took it as a challenge and became very strong minded. Imagine if I had professionals telling me I should just be a boy!! Instead of just being me. I didn’t need to change my gender to be myself. I am simply a tough, strong, girl that loves to get dirty and rough just as much as any boy! And that’s so awesome. Let kids be kids and trust that they will sort themselves out.

[@farmerchick3040]

This is INSANE...that they were able to pass all these laws especially 🙄 they should be protecting these girls not sterilizing them...

[@allom3069]

Money money money

[@shrunkenheadsandspiderwebs697]

“The kinda girls that would have anorexia and be into witchcraft” -Joe hahahaha

[@weeklyalexa257]

When he said witchcraft I was like "Wait, did I hear that right?" lol

[@myaccount5239]

Look for Joe’s standup routine where he acts like a demon lol

[@prschuster]

I'm called transphobic now, because I find it problematical to have children transition.

[@Gaonaism]

By who?

[@powderandpaint14]

Children do not transition. Children cannot be given hormones or surgery (atleast until the age of 16 for hormones and 18 for surgery). The only thing available for children is hormone blockers. If a kid at 13 knows that they feel they were born in the wrong body why shouldn't they choose a name they prefer and wear whatever they want in the meantime?

[@prschuster]

@@powderandpaint14 You're right. "Transition" is the wrong word to use here for those under 16. Hormones at 16, and surgery at 18, are good guidelines.

[@myles3856]

@@prschuster ok

[@sandy6168]

@@prschuster 🙄 no.

[@davidstair9657]

Dear God! I am horrified at who I was at 17!!! Must never make permanent the decisions of most 17 year olds…

[@kingaragornii9940]

*On my life, I wanted to be the moon. Things didn't go the way I thought.*

[@darinfry1543]

Man they're going to try to hammer joe for this. Props for having the guts for having a real discussion about it.

[@owenhunt]

Maybe. Yet being trans is still a "fringe" issue so the political element behind its streak in society might be smaller than we "conspiracy theory" exposed KZbinrs really comprehend. All the information we got for free between 2006-2016 about the World Trade Centre/9/11, the NSA-CIA spying competition, Bohemian Grove, Bilderberg, early scoops on Jimmy Saville and Jeffrey Epstein from Alex Jones, ancient sumerian text decipherment by Araon Eckhart, David Icke and Graham Hancock. Do you think we were getting it all for free? The gender dysphoria issue was then thrust before us early to give us the chance to be men about the topic. Some accepted the challenge boldy and finally opened upload accounts, others shied away into forums, others turned in horror. Looking back - over my shoulder - I should have released videos responding to Buzz Feed videos on anything political. I don't hate their content at all but I could have given a lot of deflective analysis which would have brazened my oratory power to this day. It's good to take a stand - not against something per se, but just a stand for where your beliefs centre at any given moment. It's ok to opine and it's ok to be wrong. Anyone can be a pauper, a prince, a chivalrous knight or a Mong. It's about trying.

[@CarlosRodriguez-jz3eu]

Nahh, they targeted the woman mostly. As usual. Transgenders seem to really hate women.