Joe Rogan - Origins of Cuban Crime in NYC

Joe Rogan, Joey Diaz, and TJ English discuss TJ's new book "The Corporation", and the origins of Cuban crime families in NYC.

[@j_toledo419]

Joey could sell tickets to an event for 50 bucks a pop, event could be him sittin on stage just talkin and telling stories for an hour or two and it would sell out. Love this guy

[@branapeles]

Joseph McBride isn’t that what he does? Minus the sitting: stand up comedy

[@user-ou8ut7df8p]

@@branapeles well, no, he does stand up comedy

[@angelomastri1416]

That’s how his stand up is. I saw him at Hilarities in Cleveland in fall of 2018 and he killed.

[@lipsmcgee8242]

Man he could just say COCKSUCKAH on repeat for two hours and id listen

[@deaconclarke9408]

I would pay $100

[@kotzif9620]

Who else is on a Joey Diaz crime story telling marathon... Going DEEP into the murky waters

[@davidfulcher1719]

I'm surprised you haven't had more of a response to your comment.

[@huttproductions1861]

@@davidfulcher1719 I’m thinking the same thing lol!

[@Blernster]

Why do you try to talk like him?

[@kotzif9620]

@@Blernster says GEORGE FOREMAN 🤣

[@Blernster]

@@kotzif9620 my name is George Grill. Foreman is my nickname

[@Antipodean33]

Joey Diaz is the type of fella that if you knew him down at your local bar and you walked in and he was there, you'd have to go and have a chat with him. It seems a real genuine, funny bloke

[@josebenitez3732]

For some reason while reading your post, "Norm" from Cheers came to mind.🤣🤣🤣

[@RanThaMan]

Antipodean33 bloke, really still using that? lol

[@vell4263]

Exactly

[@Chubsandsubs]

@@RanThaMan Australian slang mate. Blokes not going anywhere

[@RanThaMan]

DOPEVX sounds good.

[@SupaBoiKush1]

Love how Joey allows the other guests to fully speak, knowing how much he can go off!!! GOAT!!

[@Kurokamie]

I am from Cuba and can say that today is still the "Bolita" and the mysticism of the number in everyday life for all cubans. Great podcast

[@mljrotag6343]

From a Cuban, this is spot on.

[@FedericoPrieto13]

@Inebriatd Gente.....

[@Suby475]

Yeah my grandmother used play it alot back in the island

[@BacklTrack]

@@Suby475 yep now the govt stepped in instead

[@unavela]

@Jose Colon You just said put ham

[@unavela]

@Jose Colon the ham is from the fridge

[@habeste200724ro]

10-fish, 5-moja, 7-crap, 20-bomb ; I don't remember the numbers anymore. I am very proud of joey as Cuban; he brings me a lot of good memories about Cuba.

[@darioespino2063]

Vlad or..44 cuacara con cuacara. 13 Chulo.

[@lilxango9049]

21 🐍

[@balancebreaker1561]

94 macheteeee, i banged that one in Cuba as main number b4 coming to US, a friend put like $15(375 cuban pesos) back then translating to about 30,000 cuban pesos

[@designsonyouinparis]

I am Cuban- my wonderful, brave Uncle fought in the Bay of Pigs, was captured and held in a Cuban prison for over 2 years. When he came to the US, he became a very proud American, joined the Navy and was an expert “Frog Man”. Despite his age (he was well into his 40’s when he fought at TBOP)- the soldiers referred to him as “Papa”- I was also a very close relative to a very famous Cuban- Second cousin by marriage- so many stories but nothing like Joey’s accounts! He has everyone beat!

[@o.c.d.5844]

So he became a frogman in his mid 40's? Something's not right with your math.

[@oVoxxy]

@@o.c.d.5844 yeah that story is a straight lie lol the oldest you can be for seal training is like 30 lol and that not changed since they became an organized special forces unit during Vietnam

[@o.c.d.5844]

@@oVoxxy I already know

[@eugeniofernandez8101]

His bravery ( due to US help ) was totally useless. That invasion was totally defeated. Lucky for the survivors that they were not killed but returned to the US, their real country, even though just Miami is their turf.

[@ricothabarber4814]

You sound like you googled that shit 🤣 😂

[@alexandrucraiu2420]

Joey "Today is the day Joe Rogan" Diaz

[@gseba2653]

I’m Cuban and I can guarantee that the randomized number thing by your surroundings is real!

[@cylersala5234]

Im a Cuban occultist so this shit spoke to me heheh

[@carlosmarte3154]

Gabriel Sebastian Dominican here, and yeah. If I had a nickel for every time someone dreamt up a number...

[@paulcross149]

Love hearing uncle Joey talk. The best story teller, it’s the way he tells em.

[@bhughes0069able]

Ok

[@monielevario9171]

Joey just knows how to tell a proper story

[@miguel813]

*PROUD TO BE CUBAN* 🇨🇺

[@MrAvidLearner]

When Joey tells a story, feels like you’re really there.

[@alicezta12]

This is one of the best JRE podcasts ever

[@ByGraceThroughFaith777]

We need a movie of this book, amazing research.

[@r.edward5701]

Agreed. Love this stuff.

[@willmerwin2226]

Just read the book lol

[@kevinaraujo4945]

@@willmerwin2226 what's the name of this book?

[@whatabouttheearth]

@@kevinaraujo4945 'The Corporation' by TJ English

[@Jeffro5564]

Sadly they will change the stories in movie and do a Hollywood thing and twist everything to fit today society

[@cappy2282]

Most Cubans are great people who love America while maintaining their culture. God bless em lol

[@nathansteinfromarkham7109]

As long as they don't try to force their culture and values to be the norm for everyone, more power to him. Same with all groups. Shame you don't see much of them....actually never mind, I've probably met a Cuban and didn't even know it.

[@ByGraceThroughFaith777]

You got that right my friend.

[@Tbone1492]

Most of the White Cubans left, they blended in with the Puerto Ricans and Italians the Marielitos u wouldn't know unless they told you!

[@TheEviIOyo]

Tommy Bones mariels went to the west coast or blended with blacks and Dominicans

[@Rafael.Alvarez]

Nathan cole We never force our culture and values on anyone.Matter of fact we embraced American culture and and never will speak bad about America like I have heard other Hispanics from other countries do.There is a reason Washington gave us asylum for so long until Obama walking out the door of the White House ended it.We are Republican by majority and are heavy into politics.Look who ran next to Trump, Rubio and Cruz two Cubans.The Watergate scandal robbers were Cuban and a little Google search will show how many of us have been CIA.

[@enriquesinghjr]

TJ English sounds like Bob Odenkirk from Breaking Bad/Better Call Saul.

[@landolandolandolandolando]

omg he does

[@sevedsplan5932]

HAHAAHAHA wow you are right I clocked it now.

[@vicavon9276]

I love listening to this. As an Italian that grew up in the same area of NJ that Joey did I can say that this hits home.

[@favianmadrid6345]

I don’t believe you one bit slick

[@joosebeats]

I M M I G R A N T M E N T A L I T Y

[@HyperLethal0100]

What’s wrong lol

[@not-much-but-enough]

TJs knowledge of Cuba and Cuban Americans is impressed. Joey Diaz always a pleasure to listen to and Joe Rogan also always a pleasure to listen too. It's a shame Joe Rogan moved to Spotify and allowed them to sensor him.

[@livefun7700]

I was born and raised in cuba , came about 14 years ago and i can tell you that bolita is till this day a huge thing in cuba .

[@dsimon33871]

Man you guys bring back memories...I grew up in East Harlem, the Puerto Ricans controlled the numbers probably with the Cubans for all I know. I ran a few errands for the top guy in the mornings! That man laced me up! And... The lottery is shit. You pay most of it to taxes. With the numbers you get paid out what you were told what you were paid out. I miss those days...I will always tell people: I knew guys with no formal education who had photographic memories, never wrote a number down (proof if the cops shook you!) and these guys spoke Spanglish lol... Smart as smart can be! Never a day in school.

[@patrickstewart6260]

Education doesn't make you more intelligent, it allows you to articulate your intelligence.

[@CalCap]

Sounds like bullshit tbh

[@MeloMendezNYC]

Love to know your story I am doing a documentary about the Spanish community and how this was a major thing in our culture

[@ZackZ-mg9uq]

I miss those days where it was common to not have a lick of education but use "street smarts" to get ahead the rest. Now you pretty much need an education or you're dead to society.

[@ETTSMEDIA]

My grandfather was a number man sharp as a razor a math wizard and never learned to read or write made big money too

[@luispagan4758]

As a Puerto Rican raised in NY in the 60s and 70s this is the story of my upbringing. My dad ran the numbers from his candy store in the Bronx. What memories.

[@UxJ7]

When joey slows talking and whispers you know that shiiiy gonna be gooooood

[@KikiValdes]

My grandfather use to have a small supermarket in North Bergen and Battle use to visit.

[@michaelradzichovsky9366]

OMG! I had a total realization when Joey was talking about the mysticism of numbers with immigrants. My paternal grandmother was Russian and I remember visiting as a boy. She played the Lotto religiously and she always asked me to give her numbers off the top of my head.

[@topman8565]

My family not immigrants but my God birthdays random numbers saints everything my family's fucking crazy

[@i.victorian1266]

Cool story, outta curiosity. Did she ever win anything?

[@michaelradzichovsky9366]

@@i.victorian1266 Yes, but nothing big. Always small amounts, which fueled it even more I guess, LOL!

[@i.victorian1266]

Michael Radzichovsky KZbin just sent me the notification for this reply. Weird!!! I’m glad she won something.

[@sampeters3126]

I know exactly what Joey is talking about the lottery and numbers! I’m 4th gen Sicilian and grow up in a small grocery store ran by my grandparents, aunts, uncles and, dad!

[@salatalar8343]

Joseph Peters no u dont

[@MaliceFromDa4]

one of the best episodes of this podcast. every one of them is great but this one stands out by far.

[@michaelmejia7753]

Always wondered why mom would be bringing extra cash to the hairdresser

[@escokicks]

This is very interesting I'm Nicaraguan and I could remember how older people were always betting

[@dondada4437]

Nicaragua 🇳🇮

[@emaPug]

I'm Sicilian we have the same things. Beautiful legs? 77.

[@alfloxxddy]

Havana nocturne and the corporation are both great reads highly recommend to anyone intersted in cuba , the revolution , organized crime amd American history another book I would recommend is the Yankee comandante not by tj english but a great read none the less. I read those books in succesion and then tried to read the westies which was also good but I couldnt finish it, it was dark and I think by that time I was burnt out on organized crimes haha but I'll come back to it.

[@rashidabdul-salaam9090]

I could listen to Joey Diaz for hours.

[@jackyjoe14]

i never met Jose Miguel. I was partners with his brother Adolfo. I started the gambling machine business in NYC. I started Washington Hts with a Porteno (Argentina) el Che or Narizon, Roberto Chitti. We put slot machines in the Cuban number holes. Chitti overplayed his hand and opened up a few of his own number joints. Big Mike (Jose Miguel) didnt like that. He scared the hell out of Roberto. So much that Chitti was on a plane to Buenos Aires first flight going home, one way ticket. I was partners with a whole group of Cuban Number guys. i met with Jose Miguel's son. I tried to help Jose Miguel find refuge in South America. A member of our extended family from Argentina, an influential lawyer, made contact for him in both Paraguay and Bolivia. I can tell a few hours of Cuban stories going back to my father's time, when my father invested in the Riviera and sold out six months before the revolution

[@jackyjoe14]

i watched the above interview. Mr. T J English's accuracy was impressive. As for Joey Diaz, we know a thousand guys in common.

[@sasukekurebashi1522]

We still play bolita in Puerto Rico

[@habeste200724ro]

we are brothers . Cuba y Puerto Rico!

[@lizziecolon320]

We sure do! My grandma was a bookie back in the day.

[@JoeKing837]

I’m Mexican

[@onelife829]

@@JoeKing837 that made me laugh my ass off

[@barbievalentin9685]

My Son put me on to Joey Diaz.. And I Love him.. I would definitely pay to see him tell a story!!

[@MattJungleCat]

IT"S JOEY DIAZ! TREMENDOUS!

[@davidfullagar2706]

the orgins of cuban crime in nyc: it was all joey diaz lol

[@thenicesatan150]

10:54 Holy shit. As a partial Cuban (Mom is from Cuba), this is the most true thing I've heard. "Cubans desire revenge". I've always had thoughts about revenges and plotted _a lot_ of revenges. Shit, I even think about doing revenges to people who did shit to me YEARS ago. People always tell me "Let it go, that's history" or some shit, but it only makes me want the revenge even more. I hate when people think they get away with shit. I've always had these weird, deep, aggressive feelings, but never knew why, and thought I was crazy sometimes. I guess it's part of the Cuban culture.

[@bryanmontesdeoca8211]

Im cuban and I also have the feeling for revenge I got it from the way I grow up so yeah it is the culture

[@eugeniofernandez8101]

It`s part of Latino culture, not just Cuban. Just try to control your Latino side if it`s not worth it.

[@richardlambert1544]

No its not cultural its emotions when someone does you wrong you want revenge its human nature

[@leanneedwards3047]

I don’t think that’s Cuban. I think that’s just human

[@StockMarketPlan]

I grew upin West New York New Jersey and I am watching this and laughing hysterically. I am watching Diaz described the mystical of the number and this is exactly what my mom does every time she plays the lotto. Lol

[@ridorock6]

Memorial represent! Class of 2017 here

[@luisfont6468]

Tremendo pingu Jose Battle. Tio Joey is another one. Dalé. 🇺🇸 ❤️ 🇨🇺 🦩 🔥

[@nittydalion]

My friends' father used to run numbers. He did it for years until he got into his late 50s. He made 1 mistake that ended his career. He forgot somebody's number. They hit. Didnt get paid. Took their rage out on him. He nearly didnt make it. He was never the same mentally or physically after that.

[@amoney315]

I’m so sorry to here that they used to record the phone calls daily where I grew up for that reason

[@minamonroe7838]

Dam

[@theravagepirate]

I loved this episode

[@elchapol38]

What happen to this full podcast

[@jakemorrison548]

Probably on Spotify

[@jacobgalloway9123]

I love my uncle Joey so much!

[@mikeehrmantraut4695]

I fucking love Joey, he talks straight and gives the vibe of one of Tony's Soprano's crew even when he is such a sweet guy.

[@carlosmarte428]

Betting on numbers you dreamt or the birthday of someone you had a dream about lol...this brought me back.

[@chuckfults9256]

AWESOME History lessons joe and joey BIGTIME!

[@jakemorrison548]

The Asians do this in Chinatown, Hawaii. The winner could be walking around with a bucket or grocery bag with thousands of dollars in it and you wouldn’t even know it. They would play numbers based on dreams or someone else’s dreams.

[@LaCokaNostra_]

No

[@lazarorodriguez5161]

My Pops Love ❤️ to Death 💀!!!! He’d tell me about these stories in the 70’s and 80’s.....They Joey Diaz, Joe and TJ! Pops from Havana, Cuba 🇨🇺 Queens, NY Represent!

[@trenchcoatjoe1891]

"Did they ever catch the assassin" Cuts to Joey in silence

[@yuck918]

Eyyyyyyyy it's *Uncle Joey* 👍👍

[@ComedyGold-ml8wc]

I was offered to run underground gambling operations in San Diego because one of my cousins is connected and we were best friends growing up. I turned it down but it's super lucrative and dangerous

[@A_Random_Rat]

What episode is this? I can’t find the full episode

[@ks5396]

Joey Diaz is a story telling LEGEND. I think the bible would be a lot more fucking believable if Joey Diaz wrote it. He should write a book called "The Bible: I Knew the Guy That Sold Adam That Fucking Apple"

[@InfamousMedia]

Dope clip, organized crime History

[@FranciscoNieves-db8hi]

Yes but jesus turned grain into bread with sand

[@davidsnyder2000]

Super interesting podcast…the content definitely makes you think 🤔

[@manelew7482]

Today's the day Joe Rogan!

[@EmpireStateRide]

just finished reading The Corporation.. Amazing. A must read

[@signoresantinoburnett1169]

Just finished the book. Nice work mr. English.

[@JohnDoe-cd6ro]

Joey described it perfectly.

[@patrickhill1075]

I love your shows joe rogan entertaining

[@awolff585]

As a cousin to Luciano, I can't wait to read these books!

[@TOXXIC_VENOM6666]

Coming from a italian from NY I can't disagree with what they know.

[@LongDongJohnson0705]

It's cool he had Joey on with this guy because he knows Joey lived what this grow wrote about personally

[@TSTD_Punisher]

At my job there is a group of women that know ALL the license numbers in the parking lot and they buy little books for the pick 3 and 4 lottery

[@maximuslittle]

Brilliant true crime story

[@georgealexander141]

Growing up in Cuban Miami, on SW 5TH ST & 5TH AVE, in the 1970s I was very familiar with the highly illegal Puerto Rican lottery. Those little white tickets with some colorful bright lettering. Pretty much any Cuban played that shit. In 1980 I went on a cruise with family that took us to San Juan. I remember we took a taxi and when we had to stop for a red light, saw this old gentleman carrying a huge white roll that I swear was bigger than him. Saw what was printed and it was the Puerto Rican lotto tickets. He was selling lotto tickets on the street! LOL

[@FranciscoNieves-db8hi]

Got to get alot of perspectives

[@bernardorodriguez4285]

Cuban American here. FACTS!

[@roblopez4334]

Jugando el 952. My bolita story was in Washington Heights. A fake wig store next to my uncle's shoe store, on St. Nick between 180 and 182st. Hahahahahs the good ol' days

[@Uzuhl]

I know this is old but the author reached out to my father about Jose battle because his son and my father were best friends and had a band together even released an album the album is called better late than never and the band was moonlytes Jose Battle was the bass player. My dad is Miguel the pianist and guitarist

[@Materva-hv6sz]

Every culture has people who crave revenge but Latins, Sicilians and Arabs make it a matter of honor

[@TheBM213]

The lady who would takecare of me when i was a kid would run numbers , my fathers friend was back then El Banco de Bolitas, this dude had cameras all over his house and was always wearing a smokers jacket and smoking Cuban cigars .

[@DeathBringer769]

Great story, but one little part near the start made me giggle... 0:08 An "organized crime organization"? Is that opposed to an unorganized crime organization? Even if the crime organization isn't very "organized" we still call it organized crime regardless, so his redundant phrasing there just made me chuckle a little :D

[@Withallthesmoke]

Where is the full interview

[@richard_red_64]

The numbers came form the game called Charada played in Bars. LOL @ El Brindis Bar, 57 Hudson Ave, West New York NJ

[@Rafael.Alvarez]

My father and Battle were friends when he moved to Miami from Jersey.They were both into Rooster fights and at one of the fights some Cuban rafters dressed up as cops robbed everyone at the fight and when it came to Battle he told them to take everything but his Gold necklace and of course they didn’t listen.They were found and killed .Also his right hand man el tieso or the stiff befriended my mother in law while on walks and it turned out that Battle lived four houses down from her.This was a few years before he was arrested and died in prison.

[@DougWolfe]

Rafaelalvarez923 Fascinating! Tell me, did you read TJ English’s book “The Corporation”? And if you did, did you agree with the history as he wrote it? The reason I ask: I notice some of the negative reviews of it on Amazon come from people who lived with and were around Battle when he was around, and they’re saying the book’s bogus. I wondered what you thought of it.

[@trisnrik2245]

Lost my house betting the number. I always pick the wrong one

[@Pdrprkr]

My grandfather had one of biggest number spots in Washington Hieghts and growing up i knew very well who the corporation was and what they did my father and godfather also worked with them and they took the 357 and brooklyn action and i can tell you alot of stories because my grandfather knew more about the numbers then any of these people and they wanted my grandfather to be a big part of there thing but he would not take there offer and just take numbers from his bodega my grandfather had the biggest numbers racket in cuban in Sagua La Grande and thats all he did his whole life he didnt read and write much but the man knew how to make money hearing all these people talk about what i grew up in really brings back some memories

[@joegarcia54]

I lived across the street from the Brindis Bar 57 st. and Hudson ave. back in the 60’s

[@donaldfeger91]

The numbers rackets were big in the auto plants too,so many people were doing it and it was tax free!

[@kagesnow7571]

What happened to the actual whole podcast??

[@yogabbagabba2202]

Where is the full video at???

[@twomasta]

Spotify

[@SkGuzmanLORDRGMD]

El brindis lounge wow I’m having goosebumps there is one here too I had my middle school graduation in La Habana in the original El brindis there was also another club called el túnel I wonder if that one got recreated here in the USA

[@James-lt9mh]

Why the f is this episode taken down?

[@jurgenjunco5400]

My father in law played the numbers.

[@aerofpv2109]

TJ looks and sounds like Art Carney from the Honeymooners.

[@chansongassett3717]

Joey needs his own GTA character

[@charlierussell919]

great fuckin show mate, this one was great defo getting that book

[@ignaciogomez2952]

Wtf is defo?

[@marekjones273]

Definitely

[@Lorenzo-rf5xs]

Fascinating bye the life...great show

[@Tbone1492]

Mostly the White Cubans left and blended in with the Puerto Ricans and Italians the Marielitos!

[@lypcollectivetrust2287]

Now and Later yea cuz once Fidel Castro took over and removed Batista (who was a US puppet and had a racial class system where whites were over blacks like in America) the whites Cubans were ok when blacks were on the bottom but once Castro came in he removed the racial caste system

[@danielgomez8976]

@@lypcollectivetrust2287 i dont agree with you on that sorry. Most white cubans had very close black friends and the neighborhoods were always mixed never had racism like in america not even with batista.

[@elchapol38]

What happen to this full vid

[@accavanos]

I'm a white guy and grew up in a Cuban community and knew about the number but didnt know where to bet it. No Cuban friend ever told me

[@djalpacalypse3841]

Sorry to hear you were not in the "circle of trust". Unless your cuban friends were not into the numbers thing...not all were. 🤷‍♂️

[@kingchile106]

I'm from newyork and I'm Sicilian me and my dad play are numbers everyday .

[@youngerfoill]

Where is the full episode of this im trying to find it

[@twomasta]

Spotify

[@Theegothkid]

What’s the name of this book?

[@vjbk1587]

By the way I just notices his t-shirt smalls live Greenwich village. Is that place still there? I guess I'll look on Google! That place was fun. We used to go every once in a long while.

[@thomassexton6622]

Havana Nocturne will always be a classic book by English.

[@orlandopena3550]

QUE BOLA ACERE ! 🇨🇺🇨🇺🇨🇺

[@renechang2406]

Oh..... Bola . Bolita 🤔