Fluke (Flounder) Experiment Trip - Gulp vs Alternatives

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John Skinner Fishing

John Skinner Fishing

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@derekalexander4030
@derekalexander4030 4 жыл бұрын
The Zmann juice is Skinner repellent. Thanks for sacrificing your 6 hours of the trip for us. We appreciate all of the knowledge you share.
@archieoutdoors1776
@archieoutdoors1776 4 жыл бұрын
Great experiment, Gulp is superior. Doc's doormat shirt is absolutely epic.
@Kayak-j9j
@Kayak-j9j 4 жыл бұрын
The doc is my favorite character
@jiggingjerks
@jiggingjerks 4 жыл бұрын
Mine too!
@Lorenzo-vm9dm
@Lorenzo-vm9dm 4 жыл бұрын
With the face shield on his head, he looks like an old eastern European house wife lol
@jiggingjerks
@jiggingjerks 4 жыл бұрын
Lorenzo his new nickname will be Babushdoc
@bubbagump3146
@bubbagump3146 4 жыл бұрын
Now that’s exactly why i am very fond of your videos. I’ve conducted similar experiments with similar results. GULP rules
@ryanguziejka1814
@ryanguziejka1814 4 жыл бұрын
You guys are great to watch! You are like the power rangers of fishing. Great crew you guys lol
@thirstyowlthethird9409
@thirstyowlthethird9409 4 жыл бұрын
My wallet was so hopeful for a viable alternative. Gulp Grubs remain the undisputed champions.... but I am going broke. I wish they would just make the tails stronger. Porgies love them.
@mikeknottscreek8183
@mikeknottscreek8183 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe that is the plan of Gulp. That is to make us buy more of their product because it works well but has durability issues built in. (jk)
@huanc7996
@huanc7996 4 жыл бұрын
gulp is money eating bait, each outing wasting 5-7 by myself
@JoeyT80
@JoeyT80 4 жыл бұрын
Sea robins and their offspring too
@oldnorthstatefishing3912
@oldnorthstatefishing3912 4 жыл бұрын
I have a Plano waterproof case and keep my gulp with their juice in there, but I will mix other soft plastics (NOT Z MAN!!) and let them absorb the juice as much as possible. They still don't work as well as Gulp, but they work better than stock! It at least helps spread the cost of that gulp. I usually just buy the gulp shrimp and mix it with other plastic grubs (HR Tackle) and bass style flukes (Zoom Super Fluke). I also make sure to get packets with a lot of liquid.
@matthewdoud7151
@matthewdoud7151 4 жыл бұрын
Cocahoe minnow is a great sub. Use on 1/4 ounce jig. Use 3 inch. Strawberry white. Chartreuse firetail and purple yellow tail. I only ever needed these colors but got a handful others too.
@josephpaduano4696
@josephpaduano4696 2 жыл бұрын
Great Stuff and commentary, learning something new from you guys all the time
@theseptopus
@theseptopus 4 жыл бұрын
Gotta love Doc! But much credit is due to John sticking with his test plan... the scientist.
@aos7194
@aos7194 4 жыл бұрын
I noticed you are retrieving Z-man the same way you fish Gulp. I fish both in Tampa during different times of the year. Zman tail action lures do best with a straight slow retrieve or a single - double 6" rod tip pump. Gulp on the other hand is stiffer and denser. A different type of polymer. I have to give a more erratic rod action with multiple small pumps to give it action. Similar ideology to fishing topwater plugs with a whippy light action rod vs a stiff light action rod on hook sets. Could you do an underwater video of the 2 in the future? Incredible video. Look forward to you trying to catch the flounder here in Fl this winter.
@billbendig427
@billbendig427 4 жыл бұрын
You and the boys are great to watch. I've learn some good stuff from watching
@patcurcio1379
@patcurcio1379 4 жыл бұрын
Gulp or alternative, you fished today like I fish everyday, John. 😋 Great experiment.
@TheFishingDream
@TheFishingDream 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve found out fishing a normal fluke at the bottom with a 1 1/2 or 2 oz bucktail off bottom with a 4 inch gulp at the top works amazing for me! The bigger gulp is just a waste of $$$! Great video, John!
@JohnSkinnerFishing
@JohnSkinnerFishing 4 жыл бұрын
I found the same as you regarding the 4-inch gulp vs larger when I fished Long Island Sound between Riverhead and Wading River. In the ocean and Peconic Bay, the larger grubs rule for us.
@fishingtacklechannel
@fishingtacklechannel 3 жыл бұрын
So, I fished gulp for three years in Korea, and for some reason, only damiki jerkshad out fished them 1 gulp per 20 damiki. Same looking halibut/flounder, but they prefer different baits based on different water. I’d love to see you fish using the same technique across west coast and different countries to see how they varies. Very educational video!
@JohnSkinnerFishing
@JohnSkinnerFishing 3 жыл бұрын
I've had a lot of California guys tell me the gulp rig and technique work great for CA Halibut. Interesting on the damiki, which I had never heard of.
@fishingtacklechannel
@fishingtacklechannel 3 жыл бұрын
@@JohnSkinnerFishing I’ve lived and worked in Japan and Korea for several years, and most of the fishermen there used Damiki armor shad exclusively like we use gulp in the states.. I found some 5inch armor shad via tackle warehouse.. definitely check it out.. I’ve used it to catch black seabass but no luck with flounder yet due to weather conditions here in Delaware.
@bjd327
@bjd327 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting video John. I wouldn't give up on the Z-man just yet. I was just out this past Sunday implementing the tactics you taught me in your fluke mastery course. Using the 6" gulp white grub on the bottom bucktail and the z-man doormatadorz in atomic sunrise on the silicone skirt teaser, I boated about 30 fluke in 4 hours. About half were on the z-man including both of my keepers. Also caught a 15" sea bass on the z-man
@CoastalK
@CoastalK 4 жыл бұрын
I have found the same here in Texas. I have tried more durable baits with scent gels, but I have a hard time beating Gulp. Unless the fish are very active feeding, the Gulp typically wins.
@thomasmurphy2951
@thomasmurphy2951 4 жыл бұрын
Just got back from a trip out of Freeport using gulp and big buchtails. Had four keepers up to six pounds. Thanks for the info John
@fishingwithdog258
@fishingwithdog258 4 жыл бұрын
did the same thing all summer in mtk hoping the zman would win because of its durability , gulp outfished everytime no contest with the fluke. the seabass didn’t mind as much . gulp still got us john lol ... 5-8 dollars a bag
@lookingforthenextbite178
@lookingforthenextbite178 4 жыл бұрын
I fish in the pamlico sound for flounder. I have had mixed luck with Zman on the flounder. Some days they will hammer the Zman and other days the only thing they will hit is Gulp. I tend to use Zman more because I am also catching Redfish and Speckled Trout. Color seems to play a bigger factor where I am fishing also. They like a white body with chartuese tail. I am only fishing in 2-6 foot of water. Great Video!!!
@jerrycube6244
@jerrycube6244 4 жыл бұрын
I’m waiting for John Skinner scented plastic baits because that’s obviously the best thing to catch fish 😜
@peter791
@peter791 4 жыл бұрын
i greatly enjoy the banter with you guys.
@Booradely4687
@Booradely4687 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video John, you got me interested in fluke fishing and winter flounder, been catching them on and off all summer thanks
@juanrodriguez-mu7ko
@juanrodriguez-mu7ko 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video skinner hopefully one day I’ll get to fish with you and Johnnie boy 🎣
@forreelzfishing
@forreelzfishing 3 жыл бұрын
love the Vid's. gulp rules. funny how the different colors work. The place i fish white does the best. Fish on and keep it REELZ :)
@jinosfitnessjourney6593
@jinosfitnessjourney6593 4 жыл бұрын
I love the part when you say "there gonna ride me the whole time" I get that alot from my fishing buddies to because I like to experiment with different baits and you know what works best if you don't try different things.
@CapeCodCanalFishing
@CapeCodCanalFishing 4 жыл бұрын
Mad respect for the mad scientist at gulp, they sure knew what the fluke wanted when creating that formula
@WorldVagabond2024
@WorldVagabond2024 4 жыл бұрын
I caught some flatfish in the same way this summer. Thank you always for your good videos. I learned a lot from your videos!!
@owjbehdobw4711
@owjbehdobw4711 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think one is worse than the other. John, you surely know that sometimes you have to match the hatch. It's really about providing them something that's in the area. I think the shrimp scent wasn't good for the fluke up north. We only have small grass shrimp. The fluke must not have been on that bite at the time and went more after the gulp juice, which is probably menhaden and other things like squid oil.
@paulathiel9725
@paulathiel9725 4 жыл бұрын
John: I started using the Z-man product (once I could find it) this summer after your success in Florida. This year we caught almost as many keepers as last year but maybe 10% fewer shorts overall. It was a tough year in LI Sound. I got sick of sea bass, sea robins, dog fish, etc chewing off the tails and generally ruining the Gulp, so I tried the Z-man tails. I apply Smelly Jelly Squid flavor paste to the Z-man a few times each trip (it lasts a while). My friend stuck with the Gulp. We used similar colors most trips unless fishing was very slow and we just decided to experiment. Overall, the Z-man tails caught just as many fluke as the Gulp did. We didn't catch any big fish on either bait (largest was 24.25", 5.5 lbs. on a Z-man) However the only Z-man tails I needed to replace were those that were on rigs when I snagged bottom or that got bit off by bluefish. They are indestructible otherwise. Since we saw no difference in fish catching ability, and there is definitely an economic advantage to the Z-man tails because of their durability, next year we're going to just use the Z-man tails. Voluntown Ray
@JohnSkinnerFishing
@JohnSkinnerFishing 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing that! As I said in the video, I'm sort of a fan of the ZMan stuff given my Florida experience. There are situations down there where you simply cannot use Gulp. Which ZMans were you using?
@paulathiel9725
@paulathiel9725 4 жыл бұрын
@@JohnSkinnerFishing I've used the same style you tested, teh Z-Man Doormatadorz. Their color choices pretty much match the Gulp colors I use, they're also 6" long like Gulp, but not only are they really tough but they seem easier to thread on the hook, due to a somewhat different texture. The only drawback I see with them is that once you put them on a hook with some kind of barbs to keep it in place, they are so tough that they tend to hang up a little, but even that doesn't seem to have any bad effect on the bait's life. I'm pretty sure I've had fish that hit short and were holding onto the tail until they let go half way to the surface because I've found tiny punctures in the thin tail but they've haven't broken one yet. I wish we could find some big fluke like I see out at Montauk in the Sound to try them out on. Good luck.
@levelhorizons397
@levelhorizons397 2 жыл бұрын
The mask on that guys chin is priceless. Nice neck attire. Middle of the ocean is called fresh air
@MENZ31
@MENZ31 Жыл бұрын
Hi John, have you ever tried Fishbites??
@aksfishing4480
@aksfishing4480 4 жыл бұрын
Always good.to experiment sometimes you get pleasantly surprised gulp is effective for fish not wallets
@justinbuilders667
@justinbuilders667 2 жыл бұрын
First i want to say im a huge fan of your videos. Im addicted to fluke fishing. That being said I have a question I live on the Susquehanna flats on upper Chesapeake bay and im looking to go beach fishing in new Jersey for flounder. Can you please point me to a good spot in southern Jersey. Thank you so much
@JohnSkinnerFishing
@JohnSkinnerFishing 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry. I only drive through Jersey. Have not fished there.
@fivetwentyseven8598
@fivetwentyseven8598 4 жыл бұрын
John good job following through on the experiment. I’d have to agree the action on the new bait is better. Have you considered trying washing off the sent and soaking them in the gulp juice to see if you can have the best of both factors ??’ I’d love to see this if you’re willing to continue the experiment a little further.
@JohnSkinnerFishing
@JohnSkinnerFishing 4 жыл бұрын
I tried previously. It did not help.
@fivetwentyseven8598
@fivetwentyseven8598 4 жыл бұрын
John Skinner Fishing good to know John, thanks for reply 👍🏼
@Guywithoutahobby
@Guywithoutahobby 4 жыл бұрын
Blue fuze gulp grub is favorite in northern NJ, had to get them from eBay, not stocked anywhere.
@tlspeedy35
@tlspeedy35 4 жыл бұрын
Had great success with z-man 5" inch jerkshad in the backbay today, and yesterday, always recharge with procure before casting, I find the z-man works better when working the bait 1-3ft above bottom, almost like fishing striped bass, couldn't used gulp as the snappers were destroying them instantly.
@stevenwilliams6418
@stevenwilliams6418 4 жыл бұрын
John, Have you ever tried charging the ZMan grubs in the Gulp liquid? Then you may have a grub that catches fish and doesn't fall apart. Curious to know.
@harrisgraves592
@harrisgraves592 3 жыл бұрын
Never used either brand Same question came to mind Gave me some ideas for Alaskan Starry Flounder Caught one once it was almost 3ft I'm dyin ta go fishin right now!
@michaelzabriskie2105
@michaelzabriskie2105 4 жыл бұрын
Mr John... Have you tried the 4" or 5" Scented Curly TailZ by Zman to see how good they might work, since they are already pre-treated with Procure???
@JohnSkinnerFishing
@JohnSkinnerFishing 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, with positive results. There's a link to that video in this video's description.
@caymanisland6814
@caymanisland6814 4 жыл бұрын
When doc caught that fluke he screamed like governor Howard Dean.
@superstarr-hs4tn
@superstarr-hs4tn 4 жыл бұрын
I thought the exact same thing
@seanwilliams8452
@seanwilliams8452 4 жыл бұрын
Beeeyyaaaaaaa!!!!!!!
@jeffwerth2707
@jeffwerth2707 4 жыл бұрын
I wish Berkley would go back to the old formula for gulp - I use minnows for trout and bluegill. I got the original on ebay and you could catch a few fish on 1....I got more from BPS but the count was in the lower right (the softer compound) and you are lucky to get 2 fish. I wonder if leaving the baits out in the air to dry a little (how long - who knows) would harden them up....then when you put them in the dip they would soak up more of the good juice?
@howardjenkins1312
@howardjenkins1312 4 жыл бұрын
“That’s some adulation” The Doctor and you John the professor ! Great vlog
@edwinrivera6896
@edwinrivera6896 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@nicolaskvasnovsky
@nicolaskvasnovsky 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the procure you were using was the ideal type of scent? I don’t have the experience on the water with fluke fact is only caught them with gulp or bait. I know the menhaden one is striped bass candy. I never tried the inshore procure one I think you mentioned you were using the shrimp scent. Obviously so many variables
@reginald1106
@reginald1106 4 жыл бұрын
The fishing expertise is 2nd to none but I’ll be honest as a west coast native I tune in just to hear the east coast accents poking fun at each other! Lol
@gregreinert642
@gregreinert642 4 жыл бұрын
Love all the Zman baits for bass, very durable even with bluefish. Just don't store them with other plastics or you'll have a mess.
@paulholmes1181
@paulholmes1181 4 жыл бұрын
gidday from New Zealand! we fish very similarly to you over here for snapper kingish and occasional gurnard, loving the videos mate! could anyone enlighten me to what rod he was using on the kayak? warm regards Terry Clynes
@robertk28k29
@robertk28k29 4 жыл бұрын
Great vid ...only alternative I used that worked as well for me as gulp is the fish bites there just kinda hard to find but the work well
@PeterRanieriII
@PeterRanieriII 4 жыл бұрын
how long were your drifts? The gulp grub is like a sponge and it holds the scent longer so it works better for longer drifts, the z-man doormatadorz have great action as you stated but the pro-cure will wash off after a couple mins down there so they work better for short drifts. Plug bait is a joke, the shredder crab oil comes off the grub before it gets to the bottom.
@JohnSkinnerFishing
@JohnSkinnerFishing 4 жыл бұрын
Drifts are mostly 10-15 minutes. I disagree that the scent washes off the PlugBait. I know that because of one that's sitting on a table in my garage. It was fished, hosed off with the rod, and although not oily, it still smelled like the scent. The proCure paste did not wash out of the bucktail either. In fact I tried to wash it out of the bucktail when I got home but can't get it all out.
@PeterRanieriII
@PeterRanieriII 4 жыл бұрын
@@JohnSkinnerFishing Although your plug bait may still have a scent to it in your garage, I think that's only because there is a residual film on the plastic and the smell is strong, the oil is not soaking into the plastic material and underwater that scent could be very different. Yes the procure does hold better on the bucktail hairs than the plastic grub and I have had almost equal success using procure "menhaden" on the bucktail vs gulp but again there is a large difference to applying an external oil to an impervious material vs a "water-based" scent that is contained within a sponge that when squeezed (by a fishes mouth) releases that scent. As you said in the beginning, this is only one trial, more research/experiments are needed but thanks for doing this John, love your fluke fishing methods!
@DesktopalertNet
@DesktopalertNet 4 жыл бұрын
@@JohnSkinnerFishing Thanks John. Our grubs do indeed absorb the scent fairly well. We did cut down the oil in the bags and jars which was way too much. PlugBait 2.0 has the grubs merge with the oil with a machine that accelerates the absorption vs. just letting them soak/marinade. Hence, the new packaging has 90% less oil. We went way overboard on the oil. It also provide for safer fishing since oil can no longer be spilled. Live and Learn. If you run a test of PlugBait again please use our pink. Also, some chemist put up a side by side comparison of PlugBait and Gulp! www.blueoceangraphics.com/post/all-about-the-scent-inside-the-success-of-scented-soft-plastics-like-berkely-gulp-and-plugbait
@crispychris9492
@crispychris9492 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if you soak the Zmans in gulp juice if that would make a difference. The stuff that the plug bait is scented in is finesssence shedder crab oil
@JohnSkinnerFishing
@JohnSkinnerFishing 4 жыл бұрын
I tried it previously. It did not help.
@rezslayer7694
@rezslayer7694 3 жыл бұрын
I fish Gulp always now for fluke. But it makes me wonder because I used to kill the fluke on a bucktail only tipped with a old school purple worm I used for freshwater bass fishing as well.
@Realvids2024
@Realvids2024 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video and experiment 👌 Gulp is amazing stuff.
@num7088
@num7088 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. What kind of hull is your buddy running? Beautiful boat.
@josephoberle6346
@josephoberle6346 4 жыл бұрын
caught many nice keepers on gulp but my 2 biggest fluke were over 12 pounds one on dark side fluke belly and a spearing the other on a one once white spro bucktail and a 4/0 gamakatsu octopus hooks above the bucktail as a teaser with 2 spearing on it. the 12.50 pound fluke took the teaser with 2 spearing.
@KarimElayoubyFishing
@KarimElayoubyFishing 2 жыл бұрын
Laughing at "these guys are gonna ride me the whole trip for doing this" Good fishing buddies lol
@whaasjr
@whaasjr 4 жыл бұрын
Wow interesting! I was fishing on a party boat in 75-100 ft of water, used gulp the whole time , but noticed 90 percent of the fish caught were on gulp with either spearing or fluke belly
@seanoconnell2123
@seanoconnell2123 4 жыл бұрын
the guy with no gulp works the net! Looks like a good trip!
@jeffvanvarick7116
@jeffvanvarick7116 4 жыл бұрын
I bought a few packs of the new z mans and I’m going to try them with a small piece of broken gulp on them. Gulp for the scent z man for the action.
@JohnSkinnerFishing
@JohnSkinnerFishing 4 жыл бұрын
That sounds like a smart idea.
@muddywaters1934
@muddywaters1934 4 жыл бұрын
Great idea!
@guilvogt2834
@guilvogt2834 4 жыл бұрын
I have been having success in NC with zman for about a year. What about the unscented zman soaked in gulp juice? Durability and gulp stinky stuff.
@neild2098
@neild2098 4 жыл бұрын
I would be interested to know if you think it is the material, or the juice, that makes the difference. Perhaps phase 2 of this experiment, to further establish cause/effect, would be to charge these alternatives in the same juice as the gulp (maybe the otter tails as well) to see if the scent is the determining factor, as well as see how the scent presentation holds up over time with these different materials. The reverse would be to fish with the gulp that has been depleted of gulp scent charged up with the recharging products of the alternatives. I would volunteer to fish with these alternative presentations with you so you don't have to be the guinea pig and lose out on fishing time, but could still observe the results of a variety of presentations to drill down on the data. Might be very revealing...
@JohnSkinnerFishing
@JohnSkinnerFishing 4 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure what the difference is that gets the fish to hit or not.
@Silverhand57
@Silverhand57 4 жыл бұрын
That zman grub soaked in the gulp juice might be a good thing to try...can't deny the action of the zman. Even a super slow drift would be effective.
@JohnSkinnerFishing
@JohnSkinnerFishing 4 жыл бұрын
The Zman melted when I left it in Gulp juice with the other grubs for a couple of weeks.
@stateniland
@stateniland 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful boat.. Steel? Amazing
@philbarrows424
@philbarrows424 4 жыл бұрын
John drank the plug bait KoolAide.... PS The TIG welding aluminum ship is incredible 👍🏻
@hooper4581
@hooper4581 4 жыл бұрын
What if you soaked zman in gulp juice ? If they only made stronger gulp. I’m in the camp original gulp was more durable
@JohnSkinnerFishing
@JohnSkinnerFishing 4 жыл бұрын
I tried. It melted after I left it in there for a couple of weeks. I agree on wishing Gulp was more durable. It's why I'm open to trying other things.
@arisdelis1
@arisdelis1 2 жыл бұрын
DO NOT do that...gulp juice will melt your Zmans .....we all tried it
@robertk28k29
@robertk28k29 4 жыл бұрын
Hi john I went back to that dock and got 6 keepers I used gulp grub and also fish bites they seemed to like gulp more I did catch one on the fish bite the fish bite there tail seem to get bit off easier to me..
@JohnSkinnerFishing
@JohnSkinnerFishing 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that feedback!
@MasterGhilieman
@MasterGhilieman 4 жыл бұрын
I'd be curious to try adding a Z-man to some gulp juice over a prolonged period? You get what is clearly the best scent combined with durability.
@JohnSkinnerFishing
@JohnSkinnerFishing 4 жыл бұрын
I tried, and it didn't help. Also, the Zman melted in my gulp jar. Maybe from contact with the other grubs?
@MasterGhilieman
@MasterGhilieman 4 жыл бұрын
@@JohnSkinnerFishing Fascinating. I appreciate the feedback John! The hunt continues for a more durable trailer than gulp...
@seizedcarcass8440
@seizedcarcass8440 Жыл бұрын
Gulp is undoubtedly the best scented bait on the market. Zman is definitely in it as far as durability and action though. As good as procure is I don’t feel like flounder like it as much. Then again I haven’t tried it for that. Pro cure has a flounder scent and the inshore one which is my preference.
@scottnra
@scottnra 4 жыл бұрын
John, get a rubber net like that Cummings red,white and blue one! You'll never go back.
@19tshrike
@19tshrike 4 жыл бұрын
Do you use a different hook size on your 6 inch grubs? I typically use a 4-5 Gamakatsu octopus hook for 4 inch mullets and a size 5 baitholder (because of the longer shaft), but i still miss a ton of fish. cheers!!
@JohnSkinnerFishing
@JohnSkinnerFishing 4 жыл бұрын
5/0 gamakatsu baitholder is good.
@stephenburg315
@stephenburg315 4 жыл бұрын
Great video I would be interested in you doing an experiment like this with the new fishbites fight club DIRTY BOXER CURLY TAIL and see what happens they have done well for me fishing from docks I wonder how the would do on the ocean.
@alexcichella
@alexcichella 4 жыл бұрын
Could you try some mackeral baitfishing for fluke
@EskimoJoe492
@EskimoJoe492 4 жыл бұрын
Hi John, curious to know your thoughts on Fish Bites.
@outdoor_tommy07
@outdoor_tommy07 3 жыл бұрын
I haven’t caught many fluke, but I have caught more on curly tail grubs from Walmart then on gulp.
@bobt4949
@bobt4949 4 жыл бұрын
Docs a gamer! Very competitive bunch!
@JohnSkinnerFishing
@JohnSkinnerFishing 4 жыл бұрын
It's all friendly stuff!
@gregmenegio8363
@gregmenegio8363 4 жыл бұрын
12-15 packs of gulp?!?! I need to change and charge more!! Thanks, John
@scottwallgren17
@scottwallgren17 3 жыл бұрын
Why don’t you soak the zmans in gulp juice? Put them in gulp juice for a month or so and see how they do👍🏻 either way nice vid John
@JohnSkinnerFishing
@JohnSkinnerFishing 3 жыл бұрын
I've tried it. ZMans are a plastic and do not absorb the juice. I'll add that no trailer I know of has better action than a ZMan.
@user-pancho
@user-pancho 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video Last Sunday I caught a 9.5 pound fluke was my best day
@johnharvey2798
@johnharvey2798 4 жыл бұрын
Great video as always...did you try sticking Zman or any of the others into the gulp juice???
@JohnSkinnerFishing
@JohnSkinnerFishing 4 жыл бұрын
Yes. The Zman melted when I left it in Gulp juice with the other grubs for a couple of weeks.
@johnharvey2798
@johnharvey2798 4 жыл бұрын
@@JohnSkinnerFishing lol thanks for all the great work...actually bough Fluke Mastery as well
@robolson7224
@robolson7224 4 жыл бұрын
Can you soak a z man in the gulp juice? maybe try that see if that makes a difference
@pwr2al4
@pwr2al4 4 жыл бұрын
I now always refer to my bucktail/teaser setup as the Skinner Rig.
@timrudy4359
@timrudy4359 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe recharging in gulp juice?? I’ve tried alternatives as well, but always switch back to gulp when the others don’t produce. I guess the old saying “if it ain’t broke why fix it” applies..
@JohnSkinnerFishing
@JohnSkinnerFishing 4 жыл бұрын
I tried that on informal previous attempts with both of the alternatives in this video. The Zman grub that I left in there for a couple of weeks melted. The PlugBait held up fine. I saw no increase in catch. I agree with the "if it ain't broke...", but what we're looking for is a more durable bait than Gulp because we have a lot of Gulp grubs torn by seabass.
@Redcrown48
@Redcrown48 4 жыл бұрын
So my take away is you're a great fluke fisherman because of gulp, ha ha.
@newenglandfishing924
@newenglandfishing924 4 жыл бұрын
Can you make a video about lures that we can use for fall season when and why because it’s tuf to catch striper en fall season
@Redcrown48
@Redcrown48 4 жыл бұрын
Try using the Zman with gulp juice, the Zman looks more durable, but probably doesn't soak up the juice as well.
@JohnSkinnerFishing
@JohnSkinnerFishing 4 жыл бұрын
Correct. I tried it previously. It didn't help. Also, when I left the Zman in the juice with other grubs, it melted.
@briansupermag3918
@briansupermag3918 4 жыл бұрын
Well there you go. Leave the zmann in Fl. Gulp rules in the NE. Great video
@johnpapaianni1119
@johnpapaianni1119 4 жыл бұрын
Hey I am just wondering if u fish in the bay or the ocean when u go on your little boat
@philbarrows424
@philbarrows424 4 жыл бұрын
John Papaianni he fishes Long Island Sound in his small boat
@MichaelP0418
@MichaelP0418 4 жыл бұрын
Spent a lot of time fishing Z-Man jerk shads for striped bass in mid-late October, and I had fluke pouncing on them even during night hours. Several people I know have had very poor feedback from using PlugBait..... so personally Gulp and Z-Man wins in my book
@mahislayer1694
@mahislayer1694 4 жыл бұрын
Love your videos
@petermercado6182
@petermercado6182 4 жыл бұрын
What about adding the Zman doormatadorz to your gulp juice cocktail?!? Put the grub and matadoorz in one rig, switch them up between hi and lo and there's your true experiment! Assuming of course that the doormatadorz can absorb the gulp juice equally as grub.
@petermercado6182
@petermercado6182 4 жыл бұрын
haha never mind, others have commented on this idea already. can you put the gulp juice in the original zman packaging so it doesn't melt?
@arisdelis1
@arisdelis1 2 жыл бұрын
@@petermercado6182 DO NOT do that ...gulp juice will Melt/ dissolve your Zman plastics..we all tried it...it does not work
@stevecoscia123
@stevecoscia123 4 жыл бұрын
Off topic but, why cant you fluke fish at night? Bucktails for other species work in the dark?
@comfortablynumb9342
@comfortablynumb9342 2 жыл бұрын
Why not put the Z Man baits in the Gulp juice to see if it's the juice that makes the difference?
@JohnSkinnerFishing
@JohnSkinnerFishing 2 жыл бұрын
ZMan is a plastic and will not absorb water-based Gulp juice.
@comfortablynumb9342
@comfortablynumb9342 2 жыл бұрын
@@JohnSkinnerFishing thanks! I just bought my first Gulp, a tub if white 4" mullet and a 6 pack of new penny shrimp. I should be moved to VA Beach area in a couple weeks. I can't wait to start saltwater fishin' again, I grew up on the beach in Florida. The foothills of NC aren't the place for me. So I appreciate your videos, I've learned a lot about the type of fishin' I'll be doing from you in the last few days. Thanks. And thanks again for your response. Subbed.
@JohnSkinnerFishing
@JohnSkinnerFishing 2 жыл бұрын
Best of luck in the new location!
@comfortablynumb9342
@comfortablynumb9342 2 жыл бұрын
@@JohnSkinnerFishing thanks!!
@civic30045
@civic30045 4 жыл бұрын
Hey by any chance does it matter what gear ratio reel you use for this type of fishing. Have several reels from 6.3:1 to 8.1:1 wanted to know if there’s a preference and why ? Or if it didn’t really matter.
@JohnSkinnerFishing
@JohnSkinnerFishing 4 жыл бұрын
I use the 7.1:1. It just makes it faster to get the rig back up from deep water.
@superstarr-hs4tn
@superstarr-hs4tn 4 жыл бұрын
I had about the same result as you did . I have come down to adding a little bit of squid to my rig with the plug bait . My biggest complaint is the jars leak like crazy.
@DesktopalertNet
@DesktopalertNet 4 жыл бұрын
They fixed the leaky jars situation. New jars, seals, etc. Took a while to find the perfect jars and lids.
@iwalkincircles2960
@iwalkincircles2960 4 жыл бұрын
Ive caught flounder on a zoom brush hog.
@Keith.Vieira
@Keith.Vieira 4 жыл бұрын
I've tried the Plug Baits, havent had any luck on them. Nothing works like Gulp.
@rw9558
@rw9558 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder what would happen if you charged the z Mann’s with gulp juice?
@JohnSkinnerFishing
@JohnSkinnerFishing 4 жыл бұрын
The Zman melted when I left it in Gulp juice with the other grubs for a couple of weeks.
@jeffcopenhaver2217
@jeffcopenhaver2217 4 жыл бұрын
John you should take a look at Fish Bites Fight Club offerings. Same premise as Gulp but WAY more durable.
@JohnSkinnerFishing
@JohnSkinnerFishing 4 жыл бұрын
If they come out with a grub of similar size and profile as the 6-inch gulp grubs, I'll give those a shot. Extra durability would be very welcomed.
@jeffcopenhaver2217
@jeffcopenhaver2217 4 жыл бұрын
John Skinner Fishing they have a 5” curly tail offering as of now
@TheDavinci545
@TheDavinci545 4 жыл бұрын
John, how often should you be switching out your gulps?
@JohnSkinnerFishing
@JohnSkinnerFishing 4 жыл бұрын
I would suggest bringing a jar of Gulp juice and dunking in that.
@perryjohnson1701
@perryjohnson1701 4 жыл бұрын
How deep were you fishing & how heavy was your Bucktail?
@JohnSkinnerFishing
@JohnSkinnerFishing 4 жыл бұрын
80' 5 ounces.
@davidbelkin6263
@davidbelkin6263 3 жыл бұрын
Gulp is great but I keep hooking them in the gut. Any advice on how to avoid that?
@JohnSkinnerFishing
@JohnSkinnerFishing 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. When you feel the fish, set the hook immediately. If you miss, they'll come back. We almost never gut hook with this kind of fishing. It's one of the many advantages compared to bait dragging.
@johntrotto2216
@johntrotto2216 4 жыл бұрын
I feel the density of the gulp mullet was reduced a few years ago, making it a little softer. They might have realized their product was 'too' good and changed the manufacturing. Anyone else feel like 5 years ago you only needed 1 pk to fish an entire session (surfcasting/inlet/jetty)?
@RikkiTikkiTavi290
@RikkiTikkiTavi290 4 жыл бұрын
The older packs were certainly tougher,but I think it was just that they WERE old and toughened up with time. Always had a few old packets lying around with assorted leftovers and you could tell from color and consistency.
@johntrotto2216
@johntrotto2216 4 жыл бұрын
@@RikkiTikkiTavi290 fair enough
@paulmoss7940
@paulmoss7940 4 жыл бұрын
Two weeks ago, I witnessed 3inch Gulp outfish the normally better 4inch version. Also beat Zman on that trip. Sometimes the jighead color is key. This in NC. My boat limited four days in a row.
@westoneckert
@westoneckert 4 жыл бұрын
What color jighead?
@dngendron
@dngendron 2 жыл бұрын
What about after loosing the gulp tail put the back half of a zman on with what’s left of the gulp 🤷🏽🤪
@JohnSkinnerFishing
@JohnSkinnerFishing 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a solid idea.
@derekdavis8054
@derekdavis8054 4 жыл бұрын
You pulling out a elias ...hes on procure..he got bunker n menhaden I think
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