Jon Hamm's voice is so perfect as the Narrator for these bits.
@roel.vinckens3 жыл бұрын
Can't help hearing it as some pitch to sell a 60ies cigarette brand...
@mikeyjohnson58885 ай бұрын
Platos cave is toasted
@PariahSojourner2 жыл бұрын
That video snip from Legion is such a relevant statement on our collective delusions. I've watched it so many times over the last few years and I still get goosebumps and the willies.
@ianr.navahuber21953 жыл бұрын
3:25 kinda funny how that, while you could saythis whole allegory refers to David only, this specific line of "what if everyone lived in a cave" applies to how everyone fell into their own delusions at the end, at the trial, with farouk victorious, and everyone just blaming david for everything, completely forgetting farouk
@STELLA-YANN Жыл бұрын
What spiritual awakening looks like 🧘🏻♀🌍🦋 Amazing storytelling!
@Iamcg33 жыл бұрын
This deserves 50 million views.
@michalmikulasi51933 жыл бұрын
8 000 000 000 cca. with deep understanding and coming back to it at least once a week
@csvega3 жыл бұрын
All of these bits are perfect examples of the current state of the world.
@Zen-OhsMethod3 жыл бұрын
Very true!
@devinlovin15783 жыл бұрын
Absolutely
@donnysashari3 жыл бұрын
yeah, some people called this "dead internet theory"
@dr.sweetchat67693 жыл бұрын
As soon as I saw the people waiting for JFK Jr. to come back from the dead inthouhht of this.
@GabrielSantos-uv2fc2 жыл бұрын
Bottom text
@roel.vinckens3 жыл бұрын
In Plato's vision in his masterpiece "The Republic" every human being lives in the cave. The modern day screen society would be a cave within the cave pretending to be the escape from it. Quite depressing really. Almost 2500 years have past and with our recent technological evolution we've only been digging deeper. Best wishes and a lot of courage for 2021 to all.
@Martine1love2 жыл бұрын
Well said Roel. And now it's 2022...........
@cmdrTremyss2 жыл бұрын
@@Martine1love Yeah and now it's 2022 april...
@Nicker0008 ай бұрын
hello 2024
@Skillex1286 ай бұрын
@@Martine1love Now it's 2024
@Martine1love6 ай бұрын
@@Skillex128 Yes.....
@Beerbottles1236 жыл бұрын
So wait, in corelate with David in the final episode, does that mean his narcissistic delusion is "I am a good person, I deserve love" and the moment he was confronted in the trial, his delusions broke? He is "out of the cave" so to speak.
@mestronghandle4 жыл бұрын
No the idea of everyone lynch mobbing David under the justification that he is a monster is the delusion. David deserved love.
@chickadee8743 жыл бұрын
@@mestronghandle I think Noah Hawley said watching David is watching a villain being made
@ianr.navahuber21953 жыл бұрын
@@chickadee874 I agree on that interpretation but it falls more on the "Make your own villain". David made his own bad actions and decisions, but they were massively unfair. especially given how, somehow Farouk got scott free with everything (his Lima syndrome and his evil past self somehow still intact), and Syd was never even once confronted with how what david did to her was what she did to minimum her mom's boyfriend.
@mars22993 жыл бұрын
legion’s paradox is funny. even in the comics, you can never understand if he’s the villain, or the hero. he’s just david. lol
@HaydenXxM24013 жыл бұрын
To me it shows what happens when we let people fall through the crack and we lack empathy or compassion. Spoiler for Titans season 3; Jason Todds character in the end of season 2 and this one is a great example coz enter in someone maliciously inclined like Dr Crane who wants to manipulate a powerful person. David had Farouk. The shadow king. He didn’t just manipulate him, he fed off him and used him to survive. Then when it served him he would spout off some thing to Syd or Mel. David was a good kid. He was messed up and told he was insane his whole life, forced to hear voices and see dead people. No wonder he used the blue. So in not granting David even an explanation they betrayed him (in his eyes, and others) and when you have a vulnerable kid who’s also the most powerful mutant known to mankind and he starts a mission of revenge we can see how he got there. He definitely shouldn’t have erased Syd’s memory but the shit she saw in the cave and heard etc was unreasonable and manipulated. But David can alter time, space, dimensions and create and modify realities so hes basically as omnipotent as an entity could be.
@FishGuts926 жыл бұрын
This is one of my favourite scenes.
@Malthizar5 жыл бұрын
For people confused, this ISN'T about David. It's about everyone else.
@ianr.navahuber21953 жыл бұрын
right?! especially how at the end, they put David AND ONLY DAVID, into a trial, completely disregarding him while Farouk gets scott free. sure, david was not free from sins but really, ONLY HIM was the villain? are we forgetting the actual monster farouk was?
@ivanagustinortiz52373 жыл бұрын
It's actually both, everyone fell for their own delusion because of their own caves, that's why David does morally ambiguos stuff (like killing Oliver as a means to an end, getting consumed by revenge and tricking Syd into still loving him and having sex) and at the end, when facing some of that truth he snaps, Syd fell for the delusion that David was the big bad turning against him and carrying everyone else, and when she gets amnesia and David has sex with her, she feels as a victim, she feels violated, but she had her mother's boyfriend in jail for a morally similar thing.
@holdwhatdoor76298 ай бұрын
@@ivanagustinortiz5237 this exactly, especially when you consider David's motives and actions in season 3. He wants to reset his life and destroys the reality of the world and everyone in it because it was the reality where he was abandoned by his parents. David is the narcissist in that regard because nobody else mattered, because they weren't real to David because it wasn't the life he wanted. He did end the world, but his father Charles takes the blame for him and accepts the responsibility that David lay at his feet for something he had yet to do, namely, abandon David. It's such a great show where the thread of reality mixes with potential of everything and reality is what you make it out to be
@simple_scribe2 жыл бұрын
Me, into year 3 of quarantine, feeling more connected to fictional characters in a tv show than to real people: haha yeah
@bonnielenorekyburz6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for capturing and sharing. I teach writing and rhetoric, and there are quite a few version of the AOTC out there; this is a pree great addition. Jon Hamm's voiceover does it right.
@p.reich786 жыл бұрын
AH thanks, I was wondering where I know that voice from!
@roel.vinckens3 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for "That's why Lucky Strike is toasted."
@proctologistbarbie3 жыл бұрын
I read AOTC as Attack of the Clones and wondered, what does that movie have to do with Legion?
@rodserling475111 ай бұрын
@@proctologistbarbiethey were talking about the Allegory of the Cave, not Star Wars
@Unqualifiedmedicalperson6 жыл бұрын
You know, if Jon Hamm's scenes as Mr. Sinister weren't cut from "The New Mutants", these narrations could've been a clever tie-in to the X-Men films.
@Beerbottles1236 жыл бұрын
We've already seen the kid who played a young David in Deadpool 2. So who knows
@Necrobadger2 жыл бұрын
Please no, don't even acknowledge that shitty fucking movie. I want the New Mutants to be in media more than anyone, but after that shitshow, I'd rather they just start over.
@larcarola3 жыл бұрын
Wonderful seeing many of the topics I studied brought to the screen in such a vivid way.
@kartikeygupta39582 ай бұрын
Social Media explained in 4 minutes
@rudy43803 жыл бұрын
Philosophy is literally the best
@GabrielSantos-uv2fc3 жыл бұрын
This says a lot about our society.
@alfredodominguez27993 жыл бұрын
This says alot about ourselves..
@jason52652 жыл бұрын
This show was great
@ascii70853 жыл бұрын
I watched it all, but It feels like I've forgotten most of Legion. I don't remember that. Despite having forgotten a lot of it, I remember usually thinking it was brilliant. Weird.
@Rorschag3 жыл бұрын
watcfh it again and again and etc,etc
@murrfeeling2 жыл бұрын
I think we just collectively hallucinated about it.
@ergyscela9217 Жыл бұрын
Big Plato he was 3000 years ahed of his time
@martinholden2281 Жыл бұрын
May 17, 2023: Life (such as it is) continues in the Cave.
@jonathonpolk35926 жыл бұрын
Yup. I loved this interpretation.
@jeffjeff29556 жыл бұрын
Ah, yes, the Shadow King
@danielmelodasilva90594 жыл бұрын
Melhor metáfora da alegoria da caverna que o meu professor explicou
@clickpause87327 ай бұрын
I wish all my fellow shadows a very pleasant day.
@joviekim39585 жыл бұрын
I know this is very out of the topic but... who else thought of Red Velvet at 2:42 “dumb dumb dumb” lol
@Ben-rz9cf6 жыл бұрын
As much as i appreciate the poignant commentary about narcissism (or more accurately, this describes solipsism), the allegory of the cave is supposed to be an introduction to the idea of metaphysics. I feel its misused in this context, in a way that belittles what it actually is. Which is a shame, because the theme of metaphysics actually works really well with the style of Legion
@PariahSojourner6 жыл бұрын
Good points, Ben. Can we do both? Can we find gray area in between? I like to think that watching that segment was for many people their first time hearing about Plato's Cave, and maybe a few of those folks will decide to dig deeper...
@JP-eo8zw6 жыл бұрын
I see it more as a interpretation than a single use to the series, think about how many things matches to the metaphor of the cave, it will be more misused if they use only one point of view
@AlphaDeltaRomeo6 жыл бұрын
This expands the cave wall into our digital reality we live in now, the walls of the cave are our social media pages. The whole point of allegory of a cave was to expand our minds from narrow thinkers
@nathanaelitoel98325 жыл бұрын
Ναι εγώ συμφωνώ
@finnthefannibal5 жыл бұрын
I think he repurposed it for his story
@NatashaAymami6 жыл бұрын
Can you please add CC to this?
@intuitivme4 жыл бұрын
So true!
@MIKE-xb9po4 жыл бұрын
I felt this
@diegorepetto19283 жыл бұрын
THATS THE WORLD
@ianr.navahuber21953 жыл бұрын
1:52 i hindsight, this comment somehow aged badly yet somehow also aged well with the whole pandemic and how the "prism" is one of the few ways to stay communicated while we are under lockdown. HOWEVER said prism can also cause some people to just focus on the specific news that cause hysteria which just cause people to lash out online, and therefore causes what the video talks about how "everyone just becomes shadows, that are not real"
@alexanderx33 Жыл бұрын
Touch grass people. It's a cure for narcassism, apparently.
@ivanaliceacolon395 Жыл бұрын
153, te amo ✌️😉
@theguy15806 жыл бұрын
conclusion : dont be narcissistic cause , when you actually care about others , it will be very strange for you and youll be confused
@papersock6 жыл бұрын
Ehh... Physical reality as we perceive it is still just shadows. Even without looking at a phone, I'm sure she still sees the world through filters such as her culture and personal beliefs.
@devenpapineau62616 жыл бұрын
sure but look at what the world would be like without social media...There'd be QUITE the difference, so yeah not exactly...
@karleek74416 жыл бұрын
Deven Papineau if you wanna look at the world before social media just research it. It existed
@devenpapineau62616 жыл бұрын
omg OBVIOUSLY...but that' clearly not the point im making here
@Ray-tx2ls4 жыл бұрын
Yes, but narcissism is actually promoted in modern society, whereas narcissism in historical society was considered a sin. Tinder, Instagram, Facebook... Those are all rooted in narcissism, trying to tease out more narcissism to try to get you to become more addicted. In our world, narcissism is embraced.
@arcojin-carlosh.94354 жыл бұрын
this scenes kinda tell that, not directly, but they give the things to end at that conclusion. With the Moral panic one, and maybe a little bit of the Conspiracy one and the Unwelt
@DarkWolf-4074 жыл бұрын
The book was so much better. Just kidding this is the best depiction of Plato's cave.
@medicalquestions25495 жыл бұрын
damn that's deep. I like the writer.
@iBlancoUC3 жыл бұрын
Plato ?
@matthewreames63486 ай бұрын
I didn't get my parents permission to watch this first i hope no one calls the girl dumb 3 times
@cavemansoap42472 жыл бұрын
Anyone know any channels or videos like this one?
@darthboti Жыл бұрын
Oh fuck I'm awake
@DearHumanity482 жыл бұрын
"Your phone is the cave!"
@Ratnoseterry2 жыл бұрын
You best start believing in Greek tragedies.. You're in one
@MrDeathCell6 жыл бұрын
We can only see and perceive in 3 dimension and there is at least 10 dimension accordin to string theory. That is what platos cave is the ideal that u will never see the “real” world because we doesnt have the ability to “see” it we are just seeing part of the world it is like a 2d shape trying to see 3d it is impossible to see but they can imagine.
@roel.vinckens3 жыл бұрын
There's medicine to "see" more dimensions. The cave's walls are plenty. One of the mane ones being human psychology. We are all in the cave. Plato even put the words into the mouth of his assassinated mentor Socrates because he, Plato, wouldn't pretend to be out of the cave. What we see here is that 2500 years later and with all our recent technology we've only created a cave within the cave. Happy 2021.
@shaneford80216 жыл бұрын
I love that this video has 0 dislikes
@Albtraum_TDDC2 жыл бұрын
Haha, dislikes are disabled by KZbin now.
@Borgilian2 жыл бұрын
Oh sweet irony... even this video itself is a "shadow". This is just the outward (exoteric) meaning that the author wants you to perceive, when in reality it has another (esoteric) meaning well known to occult societies.
@fueradelinea66225 жыл бұрын
where is this video subtitled in Spanish
@arenkai3 жыл бұрын
Remember when MARVEL made intelligent content with social commentaries that wasn't preachy because it trusted its audience to be smart enough to get the message ? Yeah... Good times... Please more LEGION and less of the inane garbage we're getting now please... :/
@kernalfleak6 ай бұрын
Any show with a underlying message can be seen as "preachy". Its just whether you agree with the message or not. Dailywire is trying to make an anti-woke cartoon show and to certain people it reeks of preaching an Anti-woke message. If your show has a message, its preachy.
@marX74946 жыл бұрын
There is no Spoon.
@josephjoestar91103 жыл бұрын
Omg
@jasperdrinnon24674 жыл бұрын
Time to go cry... :)
@Oreilyamy3 жыл бұрын
Dwl
@NachosBorealis6 жыл бұрын
I came here for the yahoo comments.
@imsorrythatimright6082 Жыл бұрын
HA!
@schuler62672 жыл бұрын
I thought the woman at 3:20 was Jennifer Connelly 🤦
@starrlane78423 жыл бұрын
Can this be redone with footage from Jan 6th?
@christopherhervey20 күн бұрын
What a joke
@mencken85 жыл бұрын
As has been mentioned, this is not a good application of Plato’s Allegory of the Cave. Perhaps considering it as a world of sub-reality, where there is a progressive withdrawal from the complexities of the real world into a stream of slogans, images, and labels. This could be considered as analogous to the hyper-reality occupied by so many celebrities, inclusive of many in entertainment, sports, politics, and the wealthy generally. Through continuous adulation with the complicity of the media, and exclusive association with people like themselves, they create a faux-homogeneous world that is both similar to and different from those living in the world of sub-reality.
@sorjonen83585 жыл бұрын
There is no a single "application" of Plato’s Allegory of the Cave, that’s the point of the allegory in the first place.
@faust37722 жыл бұрын
there is no good interpretation dude
@nathanaelitoel98325 жыл бұрын
The awakening up experience is quite exhilarating isn't it, how enlightening to know, The Light while everyone else is in darkness while we walk amongst them and they would never ever even know it, only those who know it don't say it. it is like a secret that only one knows by being special. Ναί, the truth of the matter is, who can you tell? To quote Our LORD: Though I tell you the truth, you cannot believe.
@thereportoftheweek7874 жыл бұрын
see, this to me sounds quite narcissistic; almost like you think you're better than those who are "in the darkness".
@nathanaelitoel98324 жыл бұрын
Ναι, of course it does, you see, it will always be narcissistic to those who do not know, who do not relate, who feel excluded, δηλαδή as if we are speaking another tongue that you are unable to understand unable to speak and this person believes that you are speaking about them. because they lack the specific special requisite skill set. :)
@Albtraum_TDDC Жыл бұрын
@@nathanaelitoel9832 Ναι?
@nathanaelitoel9832 Жыл бұрын
Ναι ξέρω 🧐
@Albtraum_TDDC Жыл бұрын
@@nathanaelitoel9832 δηλαδή ?
@erin_35693 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who tends to dissociate watching this ?
@KingThrillgore6 жыл бұрын
Seems awfully poignant, no?
@escapingplatoscave92884 жыл бұрын
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@supervortex83636 жыл бұрын
TELL LIE VISION.....WAKE UP
@arkitekfran4 жыл бұрын
Indeed
@MrEdge-sl2vk6 жыл бұрын
It's hilarious that this video is on -in my opinion one of the worst website's that feed this exact narcissism that the video was talking about.
@sleepcrime6 жыл бұрын
Cool chicken.
@Ben-rz9cf6 жыл бұрын
Cool egg.
@paulotsurushima36054 жыл бұрын
Nice horse .
@freethinker4244 жыл бұрын
Paulo Tsurushima It’s a baboon, asshole.
@juanreynaldo10413 жыл бұрын
The video comes from a TV show. It's a scene, genius
@tnm55834 жыл бұрын
Dae phone bad?! Dae wage gap real?!
@korey12104 жыл бұрын
Phone bad
@nathanaelitoel98325 жыл бұрын
So lies the human race 2019
@Necrobadger2 жыл бұрын
There is a decent message buried in this, too bad it's covered in such boomer "LOL technology bad!" bullshit. Only of the only shitty parts of the Legion monologues.