Thank you to our cast for having the courage to share their stories with us. Thank you to all of you for listening and sharing with us as well. If you are in crisis or thinking about suicide, please call one of the following organizations (+feel free to add any we may have missed): National Suicide Prevention Lifeline 1-800-273-8255 The Trevor Project 1-866-488-7386 Veterans Crisis Line 1-800-273-8255 press 1 Crisis Text Line Text TWLOHA to 741741 Options for Deaf & Hard of Hearing 1-800-799-4889
@samlay.x5 жыл бұрын
This makes me so sad and it is a serious topic
@madisontwede79575 жыл бұрын
Please do eating disorders next 🙏
@lastchance11015 жыл бұрын
❤❤
@pedrocarlos18405 жыл бұрын
I'm beyond thrilled that you've found 6 incredible people brave enough to share their own stories, especially knowing all they've been through...and to share them with millions of people, some of whom find themselves in the same spot as they once were, is just incredible! Cheers to all the amazing people out there thriving in life just like the ones here portrayed ;)
@sophiadavenport39595 жыл бұрын
You guys are angels living on earth. 🙏🏻💕
@SuperAnythingeveryth5 жыл бұрын
“I want to live, but it’s really hard to do that.” Sounds so simple, but that’s exactly what being passively suicidal is like.
@beckistevens38005 жыл бұрын
Thank you for saying this
@Ruzovy_5 жыл бұрын
This is how i feel.. ecspecially right now.. my mum is trying to come back in my life.. i just graduated from highschool yesturday and this morning my mother showed up at my door.. not to congratuate me.. to tell me that im a horrible daughter and that im selfish and she has so many domestic violence charges and im so scared.. ahe left me when i was 12..
@mmaxiie5 жыл бұрын
it’s also that you don’t want to die, it’s that you want the pain to end. you don’t want to deal with that pain anymore
@Bella-cw1us5 жыл бұрын
Lorinamae Gaming I’m so sorry 😞 I understand how hard all of this can be
@Bella-cw1us5 жыл бұрын
kathy duckier exactly
@kaylaburrell46375 жыл бұрын
“I don’t want to measure myself on one emotion” wisdom
@deema14795 жыл бұрын
Kam B. I’ve been where she’s going through and I’m saying she is unhappy because being happy is feeling happiness for real , waking up every morning wanting to make more happy and bright days , and I thank god that I got through this and I know she will too
@thetawaves125 жыл бұрын
Wisdom 100
@imsofntired4 жыл бұрын
Wisdom 200
@Skkorm5 жыл бұрын
"Happiness is alot of pressure." Preach.
@neyleesiachuong63505 жыл бұрын
so what? you dont know? Everyone from collectivistic culture know.... people tell us while raising us up...... OFC.... GOD....
@littlewillowlinda5 жыл бұрын
And it's not human to always be happy. A few ppl have reached that stage of enlightenment where their mindset has helped them have mostly happy days but being happy ALL the time just isn't realistic when you've got mental illness you're battling or go through something traumatic irl.
@Apple-qo3uw5 жыл бұрын
@j Y stop comparing others problems :/. That's like telling someone that's barley eating "oh at least you're not in Africa with no food at all!!"
@daniellorieri63955 жыл бұрын
A bit louder for the peeps in the back
@jocelynnichols12775 жыл бұрын
Skkorm I agree. I feel the need to be the most relatable girl at school and the funniest.
@ambermcivor8253 жыл бұрын
When someone is suicidal calling them selfish can just make them feel even worse about themselves. If someone has a terminal illness it’s not seen as selfish to end their life but when you’re in just as much pain because of a mental illness suddenly it’s selfish. Mental pain is just as bad as physical pain!!
@ongakira3 жыл бұрын
@Aa K no it’s not. it’s not selfish to want to die.
@fae97363 жыл бұрын
@Aa K lol but u said the pain it brings is selfish when it’s not..? feeling an emotion from a reaction is not selfish, it’s life. what’s selfish is when someone tells a suicidal person that killing themselves is selfish because it would inconvenience them with sad emotions. instead of thinking..wow if it would make me sad that they died i wonder how they are feeling directly dealing with this mental illness.
@jays84123 жыл бұрын
For me personally, I don’t think it’s selfish as well bc mental illness makes you think no one cares. Besides, there are people who have abusive parents right after school where they’re bullied and teachers do nothing. Why would I blame someone who just tries to end the pain they’re feeling, and someone who’s trying to escape their life
@STOPLISTENANDTHINK3 жыл бұрын
People are selfish for wanting the other to stay here... In pain for years. Just so they don't have want to have to go to their funeral early.
@peterparker50503 жыл бұрын
@Aa K Please, don't ever make someone else's death about you. That is messed up beyond words.
@kvvlogs23804 жыл бұрын
Basically “I don’t want to die but I don’t want to live like this”
@kvvlogs23804 жыл бұрын
@Sabrina Fu It's actually a song lyric
@jerryqueer4 жыл бұрын
@@kvvlogs2380 from which song?
@kaylee17694 жыл бұрын
Exactly. I deal with chronic health problems and I don’t want to die, but I don’t want to live like this for the rest of my life
@dillonfulhart15354 жыл бұрын
As a person who has had suicidal thoughts and still has depression I’m extremely offended about how people can think having depression is cool or trendy. Like what the hell?
@poetjuliet4 жыл бұрын
@Sabrina Fu Feel something by bea miller
@lilpump80125 жыл бұрын
“do all indecisive people think the same” i wanna people just walking around line to line cause they can’t decide
@susiewhitney26135 жыл бұрын
LOLOLOL I'd be in the video if that was the case.... maybe
@mrsfarrellforever5 жыл бұрын
I just spat my drink out. This would 1000% be me
@justinlopezlorente67905 жыл бұрын
lil pump a libras eve
@ash44865 жыл бұрын
I would join 100%
@user-qo7ul3wm1g5 жыл бұрын
Do all fast people think the same? you cant really do this based off certain adjectives like that
@sivan9435 жыл бұрын
Knowing that they all couldve been dead right now is breaking my heart
@colorbar.s5 жыл бұрын
@@raisin584 what?
@zaideesanchez5 жыл бұрын
you just broke my heart , i’m actually sobbing rn
@goodtimes82295 жыл бұрын
Yes, I know how you feel. But knowing that they are all alive right now instead makes my heart happy.
@Nox.INkRecords4 жыл бұрын
We're all here, we are all gonna die one day.
@informitas01174 жыл бұрын
I never want anyone to feel like they are out of hope. At the same time I cannot accept that I don't deserve feeling like this. I just dont want to be here.
@nobodywatchesnooby3 жыл бұрын
I made a suicide note about a year ago, reading it literally gave me chills. Just you, your thoughts, the darkness, and the four corners of your room...
@Seinsmelled2 жыл бұрын
wtf "Just you, your thoughts, the darkness, and the four corners of your room" Jesus bro
@atheanonymous58682 жыл бұрын
@@Seinsmelled why what's wrong with that brother
@lol-te9gl2 жыл бұрын
proud of you for staying!🤍
@devonwilks Жыл бұрын
yes.
@velvetina Жыл бұрын
Or the four corners of your cold car😅😢
@Hessebes8635 жыл бұрын
“It’s like I wanna live, but it’s really hard to do that.” I broke down y’all sorry
@Love_Lara5 жыл бұрын
Same
@gabi89115 жыл бұрын
Kim Taehyung I felt that
@A_ngelle_5 жыл бұрын
Me too. And the sad part is, it is really difficult to live when you feel like there’s no one around to be of any help or guidance and when you try to explain it, they don’t listen. That or they see it as a phase, like everyone in my family has said “oh, you’ll get better”
@Chans_Toast5 жыл бұрын
Its ok to break down hearing that.... Its painful... I deal with it too and it is hard to live even tho you want to... Life is hard
@Chans_Toast5 жыл бұрын
@@A_ngelle_ exactly.....
@onemanenclave5 жыл бұрын
The Korean guy is still in a very dark place. My heart goes out to him.
@graceissohungry5 жыл бұрын
I hope he becomes happy, he really deserves it
@bossman90985 жыл бұрын
The guy in your pic is still in a very dark place
@aybaybay54325 жыл бұрын
Fled From Nowhere, mine too.... I want to just hug.
@sarah60765 жыл бұрын
His name is aster
@akashimariane39494 жыл бұрын
I feel the same too. Tried to find him on Instagram but couldn't. I really want to help such people in anyway I could. I want such people to live because there are people who love them. It's okay if it takes time but just live.
@willfearon56635 жыл бұрын
I love how they added a deaf people mental health helpline
@latikasuryavanshi84495 жыл бұрын
Same. But no captions :'(
@mileyw79145 жыл бұрын
latika s HAHAH
@vinregret5 жыл бұрын
Yeah I think the main purpose of that one is that it’s a text line or something like that since deaf people can’t use a traditional phone
@recumi5 жыл бұрын
latika s NOOOOOOOOOOOOO😭😭😭
@cyberponiez5 жыл бұрын
latika s suto captions are fine for this video so
@Kamila-ey5vi3 жыл бұрын
All three times I've attempted suicide I never truly wanted to die, I wanted the pain to stop. And the pain depression makes you feel is different, it makes you feel like that pain bothers everyone, you deal with the pain alone, you just want it to end and death becomes a natural thought. Unfortunately, most people end up regretting moments later...
@isabelzazo733 жыл бұрын
please if you want someone to count on you can talk to me, like honestly
@nulledabyss22303 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you're still here. That spiral where you feel your pain hurts other people too, and puts you in more pain; it gets easier, keep living and seeking out help where you can get it, and you'll be able to peel back the layers, every time you get through one all the others just get that bit easier to handle. You can find peace here in life, I believe in you.
@kiona18163 жыл бұрын
I never attempted but I thought about it a lot. I never wanted to die either, I just wanted to make the pain go away.
@flamingaish2 жыл бұрын
are you better now?
@bryncito1672 жыл бұрын
I relate completely but I am so so so happy you are here. These thoughts and feelings suck I can’t really explain it any better
@gardenoffaith_69835 жыл бұрын
My families mentality: I can't be depressed because i'm only a teenager, I don't have kids yet. I have a good education, why would I be depressed....right?
@fisharesoup5 жыл бұрын
jeongguksthighs_ 97 Education is the cause of some cases
@gardenoffaith_69835 жыл бұрын
@@fisharesoup I know, but they don't..
@fisharesoup5 жыл бұрын
jeongguksthighs_ 97 I like your point
@savlayashvi5 жыл бұрын
Yes same
@iangarcia24125 жыл бұрын
Totally agree! they always mention it, like...why would you even say that. But i guess its difficult for them to put in the place of a depressed mentality
@edenhalverson44745 жыл бұрын
“It gets better” doesn’t mean the waves stop, it means they aren’t as big and overwhelming. The sadness still comes, but it doesn’t drown like it used to.
@marciaosullivan32005 жыл бұрын
It will go you are nearly there keep stronk
@ALYSSAISTHEBESTWOO5 жыл бұрын
I don't think that's how it is for everyone. I was kind of bummed they all rushed over to the agree side for that question. It might temporarily get better, but the feeling always comes back for most people.
@mtnofmolehills37815 жыл бұрын
@@ALYSSAISTHEBESTWOO I see what you mean, but I think that it's important to remember that those moments don't last forever. That's why it gets better I think.
@maddrosegunn73365 жыл бұрын
That's a great way to put it!! Thank you!
@edenhalverson44745 жыл бұрын
Turbo_Turlet it does get better on its own. It gets better with work. And better doesn’t mean completely 100% stable. It means a little better than the day before. Better is a spectrum and just because you’re not all the way healthy doesn’t mean you’re as depressed as you were before. Saying “it gets better” is saying that it’s possible to move up the scale. Your moods will still fluctuate, but your baseline moves up the scale.
@sabkins34095 жыл бұрын
"There are still people whom I don't even know who love me" Thank you
@lunamartinezzz5 жыл бұрын
I’ve started crying when she said that
@haydenk21445 жыл бұрын
It's true
@brimmyburner75305 жыл бұрын
THAT'S WHAT I ALWAYS SAY AND THINK OF WHEN I WANNA END IT
@variouscastorena1905 жыл бұрын
@@GirlDo3 How do you know? There are billions of people out there, odds are, at least a million would love you
@bunnyree5 жыл бұрын
@@GirlDo3 There's definitely someone or more than one person out there who loves you that you just haven't met yet, or somebody who silently looks up to you and is cheering you on. When the time and place is right, you'll come across those people. I hope things will get better for you soon. Please stay strong
@blairwaldorf-bass81803 жыл бұрын
Im so glad that they included a conventionally pretty girl who looked like she had a been a cheerleader. it’s so common to think “she’s pretty so she doesn’t have any problems” when that’s absolutely not the case.
@blairwaldorf-bass81802 жыл бұрын
@@aliexcharv2206 yes! That’s always what people think and i myself have also. I thought if i was pretty i would be happy but i would still have all the same problems, just look different. And unfortunately yes people pay more attention to attractive people like it’s somehow a greater loss 🤦🏻♀️ or they think she’s pretty and thin how many problems could she have? When she could be dealing with so much.
@katec98932 жыл бұрын
I was thinking that too. When you're young, slim and pretty you also have to deal with a lot of hostility and jealousy from other women. If you're going through severe depression that's the last thing you need.
@blairwaldorf-bass81802 жыл бұрын
@@nur-azhar omg is it really? That hadn’t occurred to me 🙄
@nukeacitrus2 жыл бұрын
Yea. Depression can hit anyone, regardless of who you are, where you live, how much money you have, etc. ❤️
@vorpal22 Жыл бұрын
Invisible illnesses - physical or emotional - are terrible. I have an invisible physical illness and if I stand too long, I will faint from low iron and B12. I would take public transportation before I had a car and people would glare at me for sitting in disability when some healthy but pregnant or elderly person go on. I needed that seat just to make it to my blood transfusion at the hospital. I board planes now during disability boarding since it really helps, and thankfully, nobody has questioned it.
@memories93075 жыл бұрын
"Do all people who lost someone to suicide think the same?"
@komono8405 жыл бұрын
yes
@shamilama60745 жыл бұрын
Now that would be interesting
@jasminw7605 жыл бұрын
I'd volunteer :(
@annabellwallen245 жыл бұрын
@@jasminw760 same :( sorry for your loss.
@jasminw7605 жыл бұрын
@@annabellwallen24 thank you. Sorry for yours as well, stay strong :( ❣
@jokerfrixx28804 жыл бұрын
Have anyone ever felt 'i wanna go home' when youre already home? Thats my kind of suicidal thought put simply.
@dontclick47174 жыл бұрын
dude yes
@emelinamorris29674 жыл бұрын
yes. 1000000%.
@emelinamorris29674 жыл бұрын
or also when you're surrounded by friends who u love and you're having fun but then you like slowly sink inside urself and for reasons u just can't explain u suddenly need to leave bc u get this empty feeling inside and ur chest starts hurting and u feel a panic attack coming on
@jokerfrixx28804 жыл бұрын
100% relatable, when youre so down and everything feels wrong but with them u cant show it u dont know how to show it, so we just laugh things off to stay as we are
@jokerfrixx28804 жыл бұрын
@@emelinamorris2967 you hit the jackpot. I wanna go home to nowhere and feel nothing
@basketball3838385 жыл бұрын
When she gave her that hug......ugh my heart melted. That's all I need.....for someone to just walk up to me and give me a hug.
@cafeeninvierno38255 жыл бұрын
Same here. I wish I could hug you:(. Hope everything gets better for you 💛
@lisatao96325 жыл бұрын
I hope that you’re doing ok! Sending a virtual hug to u now💕💕
@zombiemoo9095 жыл бұрын
I wish I can just give people hugs if it looks like they need it but I don't wanna get a sexual harrassment suit specially these days.
@strivingtoonedaybeuseful60495 жыл бұрын
Trust me it makes such a difference. When I was heavily pregnancy and going to work despite being incredibly ill, having less than £100 in my bank and being in debt of £1000, and knowing I had ruined my life by getting pregnant, and woman saw me crying at the train station and asked it she could give me a hug. I said no, and she did it anyway. I just cried in her arms and she told me it would get better. My GOD I don't know her but I love her. A hug seriously makes all the difference
@fos14515 жыл бұрын
It would never happened to me, even someone i knew when i asked for a hug, they don't want to do it. It's just my life, i get used to it honestly
@finsta49792 жыл бұрын
Here’s my story. I’m 19 now almost 20. My first suicide attempt was age 10. I was self harming every day. I started starving myself when I was 12. Nobody noticed for YEARS. My dad was an alcoholic and he abused me heavily. Every day he would scream at me, throw things at me, say terrible things about me. He would hit my mom and scream at her for hours every day. My mom and I had to clean the whole house every day top to bottom spotless or we would get abused. If we missed one thing we would pay for it. As I got older my dads drinking got worse. My mom got on drugs but she stayed. Cops knew my whole family on a first name basis. When I started high school I spent 6 months in psychiatric care for repeated suicide attempts, self harm, and anorexia. My parents kept pushing me to K!ll myself. Telling me I should know how to and I was selfish, i should just kms so I wouldn’t be their issue anymore. The physical abuse and neglect got worse. My house was filled with roaches and hoarded stuff. No food to eat. I was attempting at least once a month. I got my stomach pumped 3x my freshman year. Eventually my dad got removed from our home thanks to CPS when I was 15. Then he went to jail for Domestic violence. I ended up graduating high school at 16 bc if I didn’t just finish I knew I would drop out. I took a year to work on my mental health and gain employment. The next year I lost a close friend to suicide and got into drugs bad. When I was 18 I became homeless. This year I’m currently in my second year of college and I have my own place and working on myself. It’s been really hard but trying to get better for myself, my cat, and my amazing partner who has been there for me for nearly 3 years now
@serenasingh73912 жыл бұрын
i feel proud of you and i dont even know you
@wimpykid54802 жыл бұрын
Hey u do not know me and idk if u will read this but i just wanna say that i am so proud of u. Ur precious and i love u dearly. Time will make things better trust me it does. U dont know how much u inspire so many people who are going through the same problem. Please take care of yourself,do things u love,listen to music,medicate,get a pet,go on a holiday there is so much life has still stored for u and it only gets better from here. Sending so much love to u.
@diana-rz3yo2 жыл бұрын
i’m happy you’re doing better. you are very strong :)
@kiki75072 жыл бұрын
Oh my goodness, I’m so sorry you’re going through that. I’m glad things are getting better
@jagamin50032 жыл бұрын
Wow I know from my experience I wouldn’t have been able to handle that and all I can say is I would have died in your shoes if you can survive that you can take on almost any challenge and survive almost anything stay strong and I believe you will do great in the rest of your life
@peachyme14015 жыл бұрын
I love how the girl mentioned it doesn’t get better for everyone. Everyone is not as lucky and everyone doesn’t have the same access to help. She was being honest and I love it.
@nehalkamal26775 жыл бұрын
In my faith, it gets better. Not always the way you want, but the way you need
@yourlocaltheatrekid9005 жыл бұрын
Nehal Kamal but that’s the problem... it doesent. Not everyone has that faith.
@basicpenguin38445 жыл бұрын
I think that girl is still struggling. I hope jubilee checks up on her.
@leahjames68705 жыл бұрын
It can get better for anyone. But if you end it all, how will you know??? How would you see it???
@ihatemickiegee5 жыл бұрын
that's why this series is sooo important. they don't sugarcoat content or let anyone else sugarcoat their feelings when speaking them. otherwise it wouldn't be an objective look at perspective..wouldn't be middle ground..wouldn't be realistic & therefore wouldn't have let the series come nearly as far as it has. I fcking love it too and am really glad that despite the topic they didn't feel the need to prove the ending is always happy, just that it's worth trying to achieve
@lauramartinez-um4gm5 жыл бұрын
It’s so hard to have that mindset that “it gets better” when your depression and anxiety keep telling you “it’s only going to get worse”
@der235 жыл бұрын
Or "this isn't going to last. Don't get used to it"
@mizuki98075 жыл бұрын
or "this is nothing you've had worse" which is pressuring and motivating at the same time
@AhmadAmr985 жыл бұрын
or "you might get better, but its gonna take a long time and lots of effort,, and you dont want to do this effort and dont want to suffer for a whole lot more, so why not just end it now? what will you miss really?"
@der235 жыл бұрын
"they're going through stuff too don't burden them with your problems" the list goes on it's tough and even when you feel like you've gotten better out of nowhere they come back. Lately I've just been like "welp its been x amount of time since I last felt like this so that's a win"
@DreamsInWild5 жыл бұрын
For me, my anxiety is like a brick wall. When I'm faced with something big, like a major life change, I start getting all these uncontrollable thoughts telling me all the ways it can go wrong until my mind and body freeze up and I find myself completely unable to even consider doing the thing. So having the mindset of "it gets better" is great and all, and I do work on trying to have that mindset every single day, but I know that is going to take a lot of work and mental fortitude, and that wall goes up more often than not. It's a constant battle, and I often feel outmatched. Seeing a therapist was the best decision I've made in regards to my mental health, but even with her help it's a struggle every day. So many people don't understand just how HARD it is to believe it will get better.
@WASABIpancakes5 жыл бұрын
“It gets better, but it takes time” too real
@Jayariee5 жыл бұрын
I actually hate this line of thought, it doesn't have to get better and preaching it is actually distressing to those who never feel like it gets better. It doesn't have to get better but many learn to cope
@saulg1955 жыл бұрын
Woman up!
@Petya_Haralanova5 жыл бұрын
From the show Bojack Horseman
@povnayeli5 жыл бұрын
Jayarie it will get better. Even if you don’t believe in it, it will and in a couple months or years you will realize how things did get better for you.
@povnayeli5 жыл бұрын
Emperor Pepe Flavius Memus it will get better. You just have to have faith. I know I sound annoying and cliche but trust me it will get better. You just have to be strong.
@glorysky19983 жыл бұрын
"It's not a trend, it's an issue" that's really accurate with a lot of things with social media.
@themusicianyouthdid-serve57565 жыл бұрын
So touched by the black woman who immediately went to hug her
@unitia72364 жыл бұрын
@King Pins why
@apparition11464 жыл бұрын
King Pins I completely disagree and I don’t understand why you would say that?
@apparition11464 жыл бұрын
King Pins why would that matter it was just an act of kindness.
@unitia72364 жыл бұрын
@King Pins I don't think it matters whether she would do the same you don't always need something in return
@unitia72364 жыл бұрын
@King Pins alright that's fine I don't want to force you into anything
@amyegan245 жыл бұрын
“It’s not a trend, it’s an actual issue that people live with every single day” THANK YOU
@tyroneloki51315 жыл бұрын
it is a trend...you see the spike in attempts because of sensationalizing suicide. in the early 2000 there was a very low count for suicide attempts, but a significant count for suicide.
@WhatsGahd5 жыл бұрын
@@tyroneloki5131There was a low amount of reported attempts and less media coverage on it* FTFY Thankfully the rate has gone down globally with the use of the internet and better access to help.
@amyegan245 жыл бұрын
I’m just talking about people who pretend to have it bc they think it’s quirky 🤪
@sophiapeake74385 жыл бұрын
There are so many people who think they can relate and some can to a curtain level, but when I told my friends that I almost killed myself and I explained all the things I felt, she said “oh ya I understand and I felt that low of pain before” somewhere along those lines, but she hasn’t. She thought about cutting herself because I said that’s what I do!??????? THATS MESSED UP!? I cut because I struggled with controlling my own emotions and trying to get better! BUT WANTING TO CUT BC I SAID I DID IT???????????
@tyroneloki51315 жыл бұрын
@@WhatsGahd dafuq is FTFY? where are you basing it on? this decade has more suicide attempts than the last decade (2000-2010) rise in attempts, lower in actual suicide. Thats because suicide has been used more a cry for help, and for attention. And its because of the rise in depression. More people are being depressed because of social media.
@hollypass74625 жыл бұрын
S/ O TO THE WOMAN THAT HUGGED THE GIRL THAT STARTED TO CRY. That’s all people need sometimes, a hug.
@gramps2matt5 жыл бұрын
Agree with you 100%. It is the most affirming act one can give. In my situation it assures me you care and acknowledge me as an individual.
@bethany-b2pkfilms7925 жыл бұрын
I need a hug
@hazzahb5 жыл бұрын
Bethany - B2pk films you’re probably on the other side of the world but here’s some good thoughts and an internet hug
@Juliaannz5 жыл бұрын
ugh sososo sweet
@spacechannelg68435 жыл бұрын
legit so true it seems ppl don't get the cue that they need one. and not just any hug but a hug of "i got u, everything is gonna be ok" type of hug.
@belgianstar3 жыл бұрын
I remember telling my parents about my depressed feelings, their reaction was something like “no wonder you don’t have any friends, everyone hates having a negative person around them” which kind of made it worse at the time. I realise now though that they didn’t mean it in a negative way, they just didn’t know how to react
@drey.x51313 жыл бұрын
you feeling better?
@EngineMashups3 жыл бұрын
Bro same!!! I hope you're doing better - I had the EXACT same thing! It's kind of nice to know someone else has had the same experience
@Turnpost25522 жыл бұрын
They told me I was too locked up and to get a job
@justabout69792 жыл бұрын
Thats terrible, I would've crumbled
@dumdum95402 жыл бұрын
could i have your contacts😔🥺
@gemmarballam5 жыл бұрын
I feel like this is like the only episode of this series where there isn't one really annoying person pissing everyone off, everyone is so sweet
@thefish11525 жыл бұрын
So tru
@salamimeatz5 жыл бұрын
do all asian americans think the same was a good one as well
@DistortedV125 жыл бұрын
They've faced their own mortality; it brings a sense of realness I believe
@UnironicallyToast5 жыл бұрын
They’re people who knows better than anyone how much pain can push people off the railings. Ofc they know better
@neyleesiachuong63505 жыл бұрын
@@thefish1152 so biased
@Scarsar5 жыл бұрын
"I want to live, but it's really hard to do that" I have no words how this line made me feel...
@kaushikassagur7694 жыл бұрын
Why does this have no replies 😂
@thelordofcream4 жыл бұрын
Kaushik Assagur yeah, so hilarious
@hannahpauls25285 жыл бұрын
the fact that that guys sisters never even knew he attempted broke my heart
@tashaz12324 жыл бұрын
Yeah, i feel like he’s still in a dark place
@sleepyak49854 жыл бұрын
The way he swallowed around 6:40 after talking about his attempt really shows that hes still not over it. Hope he gets the help he needs and find his light
@nynycat54894 жыл бұрын
Fr and I know that probably broke his sister’s heart because if my brother told me that, I’d be heart broken
@tuckerdunagan85654 жыл бұрын
As a suicide survivor myself, the only person who knows is my mom because she is the only person that could tell that I was being different
@loissniper4 жыл бұрын
My family or friends don't know either. I feel like I don't want to put this burden on their shoulders which could put them in the same position that I was. I really don't want to make them sad
@noa4343 жыл бұрын
Hi there, I hate it when people say that suicide is for 'weak' people. Can you imagine how it feels to be in a situation where you can't control yourself? Everything in your head is so so messy that you can't think clear? Yes, I did care about my parents, I did care about my family and my friends. But at that specific moment my head was in so much pain and not only for one day but for weeks and the only thing I had in my mind was rest and peace. I didn't see a different way to stop the pain at that moment. You have to understand that suicide can be an illness. It can be fatal. But if you learn to get to know yourself, control yourself and begin the see that it is an honour to be alive. Then you CAN win this fight. It's not something you can do in 2sec. It needs time and sometimes it needs help from others. And maybe while you are reading this you think 'well I am not able to do that, it is not possible'. Well it is. I am a survivor. You have no idea how lucky I am to be alive. Thanks to the Intensive Care, I am. And, I am happy and grateful to be alive. After my attend happened, total stress took over my body and my will to life and survive was huge. I was lucky. I survived. Till this day I have lived in shame, especially to my parents and family. They don't know it or see it. But it still is there. I am also facing trauma's and many regrets. But I am trying to live and deal with this. If I hadn't survived this, I would not have rest. I would maybe life in the same shame, regrets, and stress but then, I won't be able to fix it. But now I am a living human being, and I can fix it. I will always life with ups and downs in the rest of my life. But I believe that there is only one chance in this life. And if I stop right here. I have wasted it, because you have been given an life. Not to end it, but to life it. (Please remember that this is my opinion based on my experiences and thoughts. Ps: English is not my mother language
@jajareyes86803 жыл бұрын
thank you for sharing this ❤️
@theahaidamous44423 жыл бұрын
It's for strong people who just grew tired because they have been strong too long if that makes sense To everyone going through this ur worth fighting for
@shawdyluvsu79573 жыл бұрын
Im so proud of you! Keep being you your amazing and so strong for doing that
@topstyle16393 жыл бұрын
Beautiful thank you 🤎
@ravekicker3 жыл бұрын
@@Yourebeautyfull i started tearing up while reading this reply, thank you so much for saying this
@subscriberswithoutavideo-oe2hc5 жыл бұрын
*people romanticize depression and anxiety* This is so accurate
@randomdude4995 жыл бұрын
I dont see it man.
@ahjessicaah5 жыл бұрын
AnalThrasher69 Like “I fell in love and he/she stopped my depression/abuse/anxiety”
@user-il8yw5jb3p5 жыл бұрын
Especially these new rappers
@aamandazittlau55055 жыл бұрын
I romanticize my own mental illnesses a lot of the time 😬 its a coping mechanism I guess, and I do genuinely think it helps me because it makes me feel more positive in a round about way. But I 100% agree that romanticizing someone else’s depression is not okay.
@randomdude4995 жыл бұрын
@@ahjessicaah AAAH ok I get what you mean.
@d_a_n_a.5 жыл бұрын
“Do all single parents think the same”
@Feliciatanktop5 жыл бұрын
D.a .n.a damn you comment this on every single video lol
@landewell68625 жыл бұрын
@@Feliciatanktop that is how you get their attention
@zg62535 жыл бұрын
mikeldab have they done single dads?
@ooo84215 жыл бұрын
@@Feliciatanktop please
@Alisewin5 жыл бұрын
"Go somewhere where no one can find me and then I'll be alright" That hit me hard
@samlung27245 жыл бұрын
No need to hide when people don't give a fk about you. And not you as you but in general
@aybaybay54325 жыл бұрын
Elisewin. , me told
@marianat13934 жыл бұрын
.
@bigsistahtips3 жыл бұрын
What bothers me is the people who say “to commit suicide is the most selfish act”. Jesus, how narcissistic can you be to not accept other people’s struggles? Really, it amazes me the lack of empathy.
@tecc99993 жыл бұрын
i get that but honestly i hadn’t attempted only because mom would be sad
@emma925483 жыл бұрын
Calling it “the most selfish act” is definitely extreme but I also think that people thinking it’s selfish could possibly sometimes be more due to lacking understanding than lacking empathy. Lacking understanding of depression and/or what may have driven someone to commit or attempt suicide.
@jenn528693 жыл бұрын
I feel too, and someone in the video did mention this, you feel that taking yourself out of this world would be better for those around you. you are a burden to those around you. your act would be the opposite, unselfish.
@fourthgirl3 жыл бұрын
My son hung himself in the shower of a motel room...with his 4 year old son in the next room. You are suppose to fight for your kids, not leave them with more questions and confusion.
@bigsistahtips3 жыл бұрын
@@fourthgirl no one likes to go through that. It’s not a choice.
@Simon-vm3tc5 жыл бұрын
I want to hug Alia, she has such a sadness in her eyes.
@ashleyminano5 жыл бұрын
Simon no I was thinking the same thing...
@MrSpace_Cowboy5 жыл бұрын
She looks so lost, breaks my damn heart.
@saudadeanguish31395 жыл бұрын
I feel like a lot of them do, I wonder if people see me like that
@taasinbinhossainalvi91735 жыл бұрын
Very sad eyes she has
@j.hypolite51635 жыл бұрын
I thought the same. It's so odd how much i felt like i could relate to her
@semameko777.__5 жыл бұрын
i wanna see a "do all bullies think the same?"
@starflight7775 жыл бұрын
Where they gonna find people that admit theyre a bully lol
@konstance135 жыл бұрын
@@starflight777 Probably people that were previously bullies in school and have grown out of it.
@AK-yc9xz5 жыл бұрын
Konstance I don't even think previous bullies understand that they were bullies; most people have too much ego to openly admit they did something cruel to someone else
@konstance135 жыл бұрын
@@AK-yc9xz Eh, I'm sure many people don't grow out of it, but plenty of people mature with age/experience. And sometimes their bullying comes from shitty life situations, and once they get out of it they realize the pain they've caused. But I agree that you'd have a hard time finding anyone willing to do a public video on it.
@lonimonae46635 жыл бұрын
@@AK-yc9xz my dad was a bully and he told me that he would like to go back and just apologize to everyone so i think it would be cool
@breatheinpoetry4 жыл бұрын
There’s a difference between living and surviving.
@leotrimsabrii37684 жыл бұрын
Im just a piece of meat now consuming air and eating food for no reason at all
@malachisavior59554 жыл бұрын
Jesus said "I am the way the truth and the life, "whoever believes in me out of his heart flow living water, "he will never see death"
@blossomdreamss4 жыл бұрын
@@leotrimsabrii3768 Woah, never thought of it that way
@michellesifuentes55124 жыл бұрын
@Vodoo Child but believe me when I say there's a huge difference between enjoying life and surviving.
@moon_marina4 жыл бұрын
Vodoo Child surviving is basically being alive. Now, living, is enjoying, technically you are surviving if you are locked down in a dark basement for years but having food and water, but are you enjoying it? Are you making the best out of your life?
@flormaenolasco67853 жыл бұрын
Can we just talk about how brave these people are to speak up for the people (survivors) in public so that we can give clarity to people
@beans_8312 Жыл бұрын
lmaoo brave??? theyre goofy
@lyxgacha6782 Жыл бұрын
@@beans_8312Tell me what’s so “goofy” about it.
@melanieizaguirre58464 жыл бұрын
girl in all black has so much pain in her, all love and blessings to her🙏🏼.
@Morgana1914 жыл бұрын
Agreed, her voice and tone is just destroyed and it sounds so broken
@dasiquei4 жыл бұрын
I hope she is doing well :(
@mauwimouwsxoxo83464 жыл бұрын
Very sad
@yungvapors4 жыл бұрын
It was so heartbreaking to see her expression at the end of the video.
@lindasarah48904 жыл бұрын
You are wonderful - I hope you know that xx
@ama14345 жыл бұрын
I hate when people say “ ur too young to be depressed” people would be mad when I was sad and wonder why I’m depressed
@cambi27975 жыл бұрын
ThatBlack QUEEN Omg I hate it too! When I was in 5th grade I started to cut myself and a high schooler found out and said I was too young to understand real depression...I wasn’t
@uoppsdn24595 жыл бұрын
I really hate people who says they're depress bc if they are the hide it but they also arent saying im more depress than you.
@uoppsdn24595 жыл бұрын
Also not saying about you just saying about some people in general :)
@void90505 жыл бұрын
Cambi they was right cuz u weren’t doing this fuckin calculus homework
@littlegrey75325 жыл бұрын
No such thing as too young. I was depressed since I was 12. Atempted suicide few times in my teen years, ended up in the hospital for it at 17. Now I'm 20, on my way to good career, with a boyfriend who I will marry and have kids with. It's still hard sometimes and my live is not perfect but I'm much better. You never know your future
@Nooneknows595 жыл бұрын
“do all therapists think the same?” AND IFF SO, I volunteer as tribute
@pariyarezaqoli45285 жыл бұрын
SeLlamaEvee ow I would love that one :)))
@gunwooksgf5 жыл бұрын
yes!!!
@chiaradelia8295 жыл бұрын
Yasss
@randomfemale43225 жыл бұрын
As a future psychiatrist, I wanna join.❤️
@llilmaz5 жыл бұрын
SeLlamaEvee an epic input
@carryon50213 жыл бұрын
Those who call suicide selfish are selfish enough to label a person without fighting their fight.
@lornam11423 жыл бұрын
I’ve fought that fight. I think people misunderstand when we say it’s selfish. Selfish doesn’t inherently mean immoral. It’s just means you put your primarily only consider your own thoughts. Depression and other mental illnesses cause selfishness, because they cause you to self-isolate and build a false reality in your own mind. Many suicides cause other suicides and problems, which is why it can be viewed as selfish. Just like drug abuse is selfish. Self loathing is still selfishness. I’m not saying suicidal people themselves are selfish, but their ideas and actions can be, because it harms others.
@kookiescream98403 жыл бұрын
@@lornam1142 People who commit or try to commit suicide aren't necessarily always thinking about themselves, for me I was 9 when I first tried to commit suicide, my family was struggling financially, my parents could hardly afford to feed me or my brother, On top of that my parents were abusive and would constantly hit me and call me a useless burden, as a kid that idea really got into my head and I really did think I was nothing but a burden, I thought it would be better for my family if I was gone, both Financially and simply because I thought they didn't love Me. Now as a child obviously I didn't understand what the repercussions of me dying would be, I just thought those around me would be better of without me,which is exactly how many people suffering with sucidal thoughts feel, like the world would be better off without them. I almost succeeded, I tried to jump out the window of our 12th story apartment, it was my older brother who stopped me, and to this day our parents have no idea.
@NlINAA3 жыл бұрын
@@kookiescream9840 I'm really sorry you went through all of that, I hope you're doing better now❤
@kookiescream98403 жыл бұрын
@@NlINAA I'm doing a lot better now thanks🙂
@namjesus37892 жыл бұрын
@@kookiescream9840 I'm so sorry darling, I hope you're better ❤️
@John_FMTV3 жыл бұрын
“I want to live but it’s very hard to do that”
@eunicelayneagco41003 жыл бұрын
hey i saw you comment in another video similar to this wherein it talks about suicide. i hope you're alright and if you're not, dw i'm here w u through the tough times too :))
@benhordyk26553 жыл бұрын
That asian guy is so relatable though
@ohmyange68533 жыл бұрын
i feel him
@John_FMTV3 жыл бұрын
@@eunicelayneagco4100 thank you ❤️ we need more nice people in the world like you
@gloreeuhh-3 жыл бұрын
@@John_FMTV Wdym by that- the more nice people in the world comment
@Fitjazpooh4 жыл бұрын
"I don't want to die... sometimes wish I'd never been born at all." Comes to mind when they asked if they actually wanted to die. This is such an emotional episode
@SandraRodriguez-es5fu4 жыл бұрын
I agree so much for me it was more like I don't want to exist that I shouldn't have been born or maybe I was born ahead of time
@maripaura49454 жыл бұрын
Bohemian Rhapsody has always had a strong effect on me for many reasons, but specially because of that line. It just sums up so much of what I've been feeling for years.
@rain77464 жыл бұрын
Momo Chan plz don’t let these ideas get over you, Cuz it’s not true , you’re here for a reason , and all your questions have answers you just need to look for it
@RonLarhz4 жыл бұрын
Me.
@willmoore78984 жыл бұрын
queen!!!!!!!!!!
@_ayana5 жыл бұрын
i feel so bad for that Brandon, he seems so alone in this topic:(
@sherlymaria68615 жыл бұрын
Why?
@_ayana5 жыл бұрын
@@sherlymaria6861 i think what got me to think that was that his own sisters didn't knew he tried committing suicide (3:59) and all the things he said kinda influenced
@A_Bag_of_Potatoes5 жыл бұрын
I may be projecting but he looks empty and numb same with Alia I hope they will be ok.
@revenge122120125 жыл бұрын
I agree. Possibly it’s his body language, and his choices on the spectrum, and his stories about how no one knew about his attempt(s) except for him until he decided to tell his family /‘:.
@KarmaLoves985 жыл бұрын
My heart was hurting for him the whole video because he looks like he's still suffering
@juliahyman68363 жыл бұрын
When the girl in the white shirt said how being alone fulfills your happiness it made me feel so validated. I hate being around other people and people think I’m weird for not wanting to have a lot of friends and for wanting to always be alone (although I do like being with my family or boyfriend )but I’m most happy alone
@mightytattz67522 жыл бұрын
the happiest memory in ur life, was you alone or with others?
@ms.tinygiant2 жыл бұрын
Agree
@Yeewen882 жыл бұрын
Yah I don’t like a lot of people (and many not long would want to spend with them)
@vivienm20372 жыл бұрын
Alone
@AbyssTWW Жыл бұрын
I experience the most emotion when alone, but it’s mostly negative
@theflashvroomvroombeyatch25365 жыл бұрын
So nice that they actually listen to our requests
@uns0ciable4ever5 жыл бұрын
exactly what i was going to say
@ghostsheet7775 жыл бұрын
@R RQ comment that on the video and I'll comment too a few times, maybe they just need to be spammed w the same recommendation in order to see ur comments or requests!
@user-zv7yb4yp9g5 жыл бұрын
The flash Vroomvroom beyatch yeaah... after spamming the comments with requests about suicide survivors
@niyahpia5 жыл бұрын
Ikr they actually read their comments and listen to their viewers I love it!👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
@Solidude45 жыл бұрын
@R RQ I mean obviously they can't listen to EVERYONE'S requests, but they definitely listen to the requests of the audience as a whole.
@carriefifty-forty-five38103 жыл бұрын
Saying “why do you have depression, your life is so great” is like saying “why do you have asthma, there’s so much air”. It doesn’t make any sense, it doesn’t contribute anything to the conversation or the healing of the person with asthma or depression, and it just shows that you have no understanding of a medical condition, and that you have no intention of educating yourself.
@SuperVladdrakula3 жыл бұрын
"and that you have no intention of educating yourself." Everyone just like to be idiots.
@vivianasalles56863 жыл бұрын
omg yes
@jacobcox55363 жыл бұрын
but theres also a difference between having a medical condition and having self induced problems and ppl need to understand the difference
@modomo60453 жыл бұрын
@@jacobcox5536 i agree with this althought those self induced problems can lead to mental ilness over time
@huh13273 жыл бұрын
that line is like so original. its awesome
@xinyy5 жыл бұрын
“I dont wanna live but im too scared to die”
@andrewphil23664 жыл бұрын
Ok?
@noltica18634 жыл бұрын
Andrew Phil I’m having a hard time telling if you’re trying to be an asshole or if you were genuinely offended my that statement
@andrewphil23664 жыл бұрын
@@noltica1863 no I just dont get why she tells us,like on one asked
@xinyy4 жыл бұрын
Andrew Phil so i cant share my feelings ?!? I didnt ask for your opinion either
@andrewphil23664 жыл бұрын
@@xinyy I never gave my opinion🤦♂️and who cares if you're depressed
@asdfg43303 жыл бұрын
people who call suicidal people selfish have either never experienced it or forgotten what it feels like.
@illest20013 жыл бұрын
I had someone tell me it is because it’s “still murder” even when I told them that I’m a survivor
@hell_inn02582 жыл бұрын
Okay but you guys can’t just go around ignoring the fact that suicide doesn’t end all problems, maybe for you, but all it really does is leave your problems for someone else to deal with that sorrow
@hopet70332 жыл бұрын
yep. like the fact that i have gone many days going "i could end this all right now swallowing that pill bottle" and feeling relieved. theres nothing normal about it nor is it selfish. i was broken
@VixxiRaven2 жыл бұрын
@@hell_inn0258 Do you even think before you talk down to suicide survivors? Just don't talk.
@schizowuitzo2 жыл бұрын
@@hell_inn0258 too bad so sad !
@w1ldthin95 жыл бұрын
i loved how everyone moved over in agreement on “it gets better.” thats hopeful!
@aaliyahetc.66875 жыл бұрын
It's a lie
@sonichero75 жыл бұрын
KuroKjo Sun Because they didn't get to experience it... because they weren't stopped...
@realstepper22915 жыл бұрын
True Blue Sonic Hero Don’t mistake me for this but no matter how much u go to a psychiatrist or take anti depression pills its all about what that suicidal person has in mind because no matter how hard u try to stop there is only a certain limit and it’s ultimately a choice for the suicidal person
@Ty-fc7ml5 жыл бұрын
If you take into consideration all their answers its obvious its a lie. They are saying what puts them in a better light & whats socially acceptable
@damarasya965 жыл бұрын
Yeah but it's so hard to believe that right now
@GreenAndTheToe4 жыл бұрын
“I have anxiety” And “I have anxiety disorder” Is very different And a lot of people don’t understand
@luna-mi5ve4 жыл бұрын
can you explain please?
@mr.unlucky26754 жыл бұрын
I kinda have both
@merna36004 жыл бұрын
Could you please explain, I don’t wanna get these two wrong and say something wrong🥺
@principessasuoradikirby94654 жыл бұрын
Anxiety it's an emotion,anxiety disorder is a mental illness
@Kate-xo6xd4 жыл бұрын
Anxiety is when you are going through something that is making you feel anxious. It's an emotion. An anxiety disorder is something you have to deal with your whole life. It's constant anxiety and learning to live with that. (I hope that makes sense haha)
@evanpadilla68405 жыл бұрын
The trans guy made me cry. Like I feel bad when he say he feels he needs to be happy because other people want you to be. I want to hug every single one of them
@barrybeebenson73415 жыл бұрын
@Mei -mei you're precious. and i love you even though i don't know you.
@janaris975 жыл бұрын
Mei -mei It’s okay. You don’t need to be pressurized into being happy. It’s all fleeting anyway. You are allowed to feel the way you do. You are. And I pray for the day when you will wake up and the light feels magical and you are glad to have woken up.
@mikestanciu9835 жыл бұрын
lol
@ליאתשנקמן3 жыл бұрын
"It's okay to not be okay". These words describe what I try to tell myself for years. Thank you for saying that.
@jazzybeanss4 жыл бұрын
“Mental illnesses that are seen as attractive like anxiety” Cough cough TIK TOK cough cough
@caroline-pm4mo4 жыл бұрын
"mY sOciaL anXieTy cOuLd nEveR"
@huna91494 жыл бұрын
caroline and the fact that they say that like its a joke. Rip i was full on crying on the bus and having a panic attack just because i had to tap my bus pass after the next person. And the funny thing is that my mum was there who never knew i have that issue and ;-; she told me that i was being weak and made me sit next to some random person who was looking at me crying which made it 100000x worse. Social anxiety and anxiety in general aint a joke because it hinders me from life. Im 15 And i dont know any busses and how to use them. I only started going outside with my friends of 7 years last year. I feel like the people who glorify anxiety and try promote it as a cute thing need a reality check that its a hard thing.
@lachiee.s4 жыл бұрын
Some people think because they’re shy or introverted they have social anxiety i hate it
@serinaxiong73024 жыл бұрын
I hate when people make mental illness a trend like- it's disgusting
@lisaolsen0014 жыл бұрын
Trueee tho!
@isobel26745 жыл бұрын
Seeing people that look so ordinary that have gone through what you’ve gone through to some degree is so validating.
@xsadxboiiix7575 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@floppyplatypus34635 жыл бұрын
it could be the person you’d least expect
@YogurtwithBerries5 жыл бұрын
@Turbo_Turlet Sometimes when we go through an episode of depression, we end up feeling very alone in many different ways. It doesn't help that there's a lot of stigma, misconceptions, and misunderstandings revolving mental health issues. So seeing someone who looks "ordinary" and deals with the same or similar problems helps us feel less alone, less crazy, and less misunderstood. It tells us, "Mental illness is real and we do have it and it's not just me." It's validating in this sort of way, at least for me personally. Edit) Tl;dr: Their experiences resonate to our own struggles, helping us feel less alone and less misunderstood and making us feel like our experiences are being acknowledged.
@isobel26745 жыл бұрын
YogurtwithBerries basically took everything I was thinking and couldn’t put into words
@biancab52245 жыл бұрын
Elijah seems like the girl who takes care of everybody and wants everyone around her to be healed and happy. I hope she receives the same energy from people around her.
@elijahrenee56885 жыл бұрын
❤️❤️❤️ soon I will
@alon27565 жыл бұрын
Bianca Reyes 🎂
@emma-di5ly5 жыл бұрын
@@elijahrenee5688 You're so inspiring for me Elijah
@putsomerespeckonmaname5405 жыл бұрын
@@elijahrenee5688 You're such a sweetheart ❤️ I wish you all the happiness in your future dear
@jessi48945 жыл бұрын
@@elijahrenee5688 even though this was a really tough episode with super depressing topic, but I really enjoyed your presence today. You seem like a really kind hearted person, and I hope that you are doing well and feeling loved 💖
@MohdAnas-fs5yj2 жыл бұрын
Brandon seems like the guy who gives the biggest and bestest hugs ever he just radiates lovely positive energy and it's just so sad to someone like him being so down and attempting to end such precious life
@tobi-uh3hw5 жыл бұрын
I really liked Elijah. She seemed so nice, especially when she hugged the girl that started to cry. I thought all these people were really nice, and it's surprising how they talked about this so well. It was inspiring to listen to this.
@goodtimes82295 жыл бұрын
Amen.
@elijah97944 жыл бұрын
When your name is Elijah and is a boy wait a min not to be mean but it's a boys name
@4kVoiid4 жыл бұрын
Schway Elijah oh uhhh 😬 awkward
@user-gc9th9wk9f4 жыл бұрын
I would love to be friends with her. She an amazing soul.
@sulagreen5792 Жыл бұрын
I think Elijah prefers he/him pronouns.
@rebecca-gq6jl5 жыл бұрын
“do all people with eating disorders think the same”
@cereal23735 жыл бұрын
rebecca Yes
@Aerizal5 жыл бұрын
No
@noonereally.5 жыл бұрын
@@Aerizalwhy not?
@noellerebekah215 жыл бұрын
Please
@jettsamoo7875 жыл бұрын
Idk that could be triggering
@nothisispatrick63324 жыл бұрын
So nobody is gonna talk about the white guy?? I don’t know, but the way he was talking, and the way his face looked... he just looks so hurt in the inside...
@moniquecummings9214 жыл бұрын
Ikr. I was thinking about that the whole episode. It seems the only thing that kept him from ending it was family, and I think it's sill that way for him.
@-adela-69944 жыл бұрын
Exactly, it made me so sad. The way society is set is to make men feel like they should hide their emotions and that's exactly what leads to this and why he didn't get the support he deserved. I'm glad he can talk about it now, it was devastating to hear that his family didn't even know
@velvetthunder38564 жыл бұрын
Yeah him and Aster got me worried, the Asian girl too😔
@anademori_4 жыл бұрын
@@velvetthunder3856 it´s a boy
@batzeth4 жыл бұрын
@@anademori_ no she mean tha asian girl not Aster
@joyredmond78222 жыл бұрын
I’ve watched all of the other Spectrum videos but had avoided this one out of fear. I lost my brother to suicide 20 years ago. I avoid getting triggered because it hurts so badly. I have never once thought he was selfish. I can’t imagine the pain he was going through that it felt like his only option. To anyone who calls it a selfish act or a sin, you haven’t been to that place. My brother was funny, sweet, had lots of friends, but was in agony. I miss him so. Thank you to these brave panelists. I wish you all the best.
@alextoocool5 жыл бұрын
i love elijah she was so considerate of other people's opinions and was so supportive and sweet .
@elijahrenee56885 жыл бұрын
arrexsus thank you ❤️
@inspireandbeinspired5795 жыл бұрын
@@elijahrenee5688 you're such a beautiful person on the inside and on the outside, thank you for sharing your experience it's really brave ! Wishing you all the best in the future 😊❤️
@mmwire5 жыл бұрын
Alia too.
@adalovelacestan46405 жыл бұрын
I can't take u seriously with that profile pic lol
@abbisnews15 жыл бұрын
Elijah you are a beautiful person ❤️
@emmacruz3175 жыл бұрын
“do all people with eating disorders think the same” edit: include men and women and people of ALL sizes and ED’s, not just people with restricting ed’s
@karalam62895 жыл бұрын
emma cruz omg yes i have been requesting this for so long
@lisdmon65385 жыл бұрын
yessss
@forestrot6665 жыл бұрын
Please this would be very educational!
@walida88855 жыл бұрын
YESS and not only restrictive eds. I hope they include ppl with binge disorders and stuff.
@samy_panda66055 жыл бұрын
1,000th like :)
@inscid1795 жыл бұрын
Jubilee: let's mike up everyone except for the people announcing the questions
@a.kaushal84475 жыл бұрын
It's on the screen
@tychowozniaki92695 жыл бұрын
some people only listen to the video.
@larajade85 жыл бұрын
GongXiFaCai Beetches There are people who have bad vision or are blind. Learn how to be more considerate.
@karlymuffinx5 жыл бұрын
I wanted to listen to the video while I was walking somewhere. A lot of people listen to videos instead of listening and watching.
@nancysandoval17255 жыл бұрын
lmao people gotta chill. this is just some feedback for the creators.
@minimalisticoptimistic Жыл бұрын
2:39 when the woman gave the other a hug that was so heartwarming. I would like to give them all a hug because they have stood through so much. I wish all the best to you. A wonderful day to all who read this❤
@Departure-yz7ok Жыл бұрын
That moment made me tear up a bit
@infinity_sh481611 ай бұрын
@@Departure-yz7ok same that moment can make you feel hopeful and better
@infinity_sh481611 ай бұрын
and it is a sign to keep going and know that it gets better, sometimes people heal fast and sometimes it takes a long time but it does get better i guess and its all about some time and space
@infinity_sh481611 ай бұрын
and it is a sign to keep going and know that it gets better, sometimes people heal fast and sometimes it takes a long time but it does get better and its all about some time and space
@미도와파라솔4 жыл бұрын
my family: "Don't commit suicide you'll embarrass us"
@Echo126_4 жыл бұрын
Stay strong dude. We’ll all make it. And I’m sure if you have a real talk with your family/parents, they’ll take it more seriously. Best of luck.
@baileylynn55624 жыл бұрын
If it makes it any better, a random person on the internet (me) doesn't want you to commit suicide because you deserve to live your life and you deserve a future where things get better. It might seem like it's never gonna happen, but be patient. Things will get better.
@fmg61894 жыл бұрын
Ok so related to your profile picture hunter x hunter is an amazing anime because it shows depression and attempted suicide especially within killua
@thisisauniquename4 жыл бұрын
That's hard. I'm so sorry you're in that situation. I'm proud of you for making it this far despite your family ❤️
@nothanks12394 жыл бұрын
You won't embarass them. It will alter their lives forever though. Not to mention the amount of guilt they would feel for not taking the opportunity to help you. All I can say is this; please don't commit suicide. It is not worth it. You are guaranteed a death, but you are not guaranteed a life. It might not feel like it now, but your life is precious. I hope you get some help. Take it from someone who has lost a family member to suicide.
@medofawzy44335 жыл бұрын
"mental illness is not a trend, but it's an real issue that people deal with" Theses words can be written in gold
@jamiesara-5 жыл бұрын
I am suicidal, depressed and I have anxiety, but so many of my friends or people my age....pretend...and it's really...offensive might not be the right word, but it makes others not understand the extent of depression.
@medofawzy44335 жыл бұрын
@@jamiesara- okay you can talk to me about your problems that okay not to be okay Just be who you are
@judahguerrero10905 жыл бұрын
Agreed, reason why transgenderism needs to be stopped as a normality.
@friday52375 жыл бұрын
@@judahguerrero1090 you REALLY missed the point there huh
@Unknownburger5 жыл бұрын
SoullessJamie using ellipsis to get a point across lol
@drelezar77453 жыл бұрын
Know what’s messed up? Ppl don’t take their friends or family saying they are suicidal seriously until they succeed in it...
@hayamy35833 жыл бұрын
This.
@fatbottombiker30383 жыл бұрын
Agree!!!
@meglbrn53683 жыл бұрын
Could you tell that to my mother pls?
@KarolineLovesArcane3 жыл бұрын
Yeah it’s as they don’t know what it takes to take their own life. Because they don’t know what it will look for themselves if parents, or friends wants to understand why suicidal people attempts to take their own life.
@solarion12603 жыл бұрын
@@meglbrn5368 if u want her to help u must talk to her 🥰
@sophiachristie9807 Жыл бұрын
That group hug at the end.. Throughout the whole video I just wanted to give each and every one of the participants a hug. I would actually like to give everyone struggling in the world a hug. If they’re okay with physical contact, then a hug could really help change how someone feels and allow them to talk about how they feel. I was so happy seeing all the hugs at the end, it made my heart so happy.
@lavenderbay2795 жыл бұрын
For me, "it gets better" doesn't mean it goes away. It just means I find ways to deal with it and not let it have control over my life.
@kalehead00755 жыл бұрын
Bayleigh Welch agreed. It gets better and then it gets bad for a bit and then it gets better again. You have to have a tool box to ride out those waves.
@abbyaddington61795 жыл бұрын
this is so true. I struggled with suicidal thoughts earlier this year and even though the problems haven't gone away, I've found resources to deal with them, and every day is different
@vvdaniii2445 жыл бұрын
It gets way worse too.
@literallyfede62345 жыл бұрын
Bayleigh Welch recovery is really hard and requires all your energy and thoughts, but it IS possible. i promise. it is possible to be happy and reach the light
@noahfence68385 жыл бұрын
This x1000000. There’s no real cure for depression, but there’s ways to keep it at bay.
@N3K05533 жыл бұрын
A moment of silence to those who didn’t survived
@lechnebjokeur57553 жыл бұрын
F
@leiii81463 жыл бұрын
F
@paradisegaming6443 жыл бұрын
If you gave one second to everyone who committed suicide in 2020, you’d be quiet for over 13 hours. my math is bad today it could be more or less lmao
@anonymoususer38883 жыл бұрын
F
@deezem52943 жыл бұрын
@@paradisegaming644 isnt it around 800000 people which makes it 9.25 whole days of being in silence?
@danielhan61415 жыл бұрын
That Korean guy needs serious help even now. He should not be left alone
@graceissohungry5 жыл бұрын
I feel for him 😞
@gabbymary55334 жыл бұрын
shusaku endo ikr
@akashimariane39494 жыл бұрын
But he's nowhere to be found. Tried finding him on IG but it didn't work. I can just pray for his survival.
@jiyu92774 жыл бұрын
Akashi Mariane his Instagram link is in the description. He posted 7 days ago
@shathaan17634 жыл бұрын
calm down psicologist
@katemozley4693 жыл бұрын
I will never agree that suicide is selfish because if someone had terminal cancer and was dying you’d never call them selfish. It’s the same thing! Mental health is the same as physical health both can be killers and just because mental health deaths are self conflicted doesn’t mean the person is to blame
@kpopstan7520 Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@randomfemaleopinion3167 Жыл бұрын
Depression is not the same as terminal illness. It's not called terminal depression. It's not inherently permanent. This is a false equivalent.
@Promethazin3 Жыл бұрын
Those two things don’t correlate
@sibusisoyende64935 жыл бұрын
The worst thing about suicidal people is they are so nice to everyone
@kookoo4pandas5 жыл бұрын
ha sometimes, sometimes im super mean to people bc i feel uncared for. These people are no longer suicidal- i think people whove gone through something real are sometimes more empathic, than people who havn't gone through anything really hard. But some people are born empathic, and going through trauma can force them to be meaner.
@halie12545 жыл бұрын
Two of the best people I ever met passed from suicide. Two great young men :(
@scoob16705 жыл бұрын
lmao not necessarily. My father is very narcissistic and abusive.
@neilru51725 жыл бұрын
When you hate yourself, you end up liking and appreciating other people much more since they seem so much better than yourself. At least that's how my experience was.
@lizzyva1825 жыл бұрын
True but then people just take advantage of you for being nice and you end up hurt for it
@anna_salvatore88085 жыл бұрын
“People start to care once they die.”
@perfectlyimperfectmae61375 жыл бұрын
Sadly they will never know how lonely you are... until you die😢it sucks...
@briaisabanana70315 жыл бұрын
People *do* care, they just don’t realize how much they care or how to express that
@anna_salvatore88085 жыл бұрын
People realize how much they cared once it’s too late :c
@moka_dotz28575 жыл бұрын
They don’t even know that I’m going through so much pain
@fos14515 жыл бұрын
@@briaisabanana7031 nah, no one is, and i just get used to it.
@crystaljackson97025 жыл бұрын
someone check on aster. we want him to be ok.
@shriekynoodles4 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Poor Aster.
@giovannitrujillo9744 жыл бұрын
They put a link to the participant's socials in the description. He's doing good as far as I can see.
@qqqq31204 жыл бұрын
@@giovannitrujillo974 nobody knows what happens behind the scenes compared to what they see on media, though
@msl16894 жыл бұрын
@@qqqq3120 At least he's alive...
@qqqq31204 жыл бұрын
@@msl1689 didn't even mention his death..
@sarahmyers603 жыл бұрын
Immediate tears with that first hug omg
@kxlebx5 жыл бұрын
the girl in the black shirt stood out to me. it didn’t look like she was okay. I hope she’s doing well edit: Alia responded to this comment!
@LS-ze4mw5 жыл бұрын
kindakaleb Alia stood out to me too.
@eliza18265 жыл бұрын
I'm depressed and sucide so her face resembles so many of us. I could feel her pain
@LS-ze4mw5 жыл бұрын
Eli za I hope things get better for you. Be kind to yourself and stay strong. You are enough
@eliza18265 жыл бұрын
@@LS-ze4mw thank you so much love💕 kindness of people like you are what uplifts and gives hope to most of us. I wish you the best as well.
@traffordb315 жыл бұрын
@@eliza1826 Eli za Hey. You're amazing. Don't ever forget it. I don't know the reasons for why you're struggling, but whatever it is, I can promise you that you ARE good enough, you ARE worth it, you CAN overcome it and it does NOT make you a bad person. It's okay not to be okay and it's okay to ask for help. It's okay to go as slowly as you want and take as long as you need to heal. There are so many people who love and care about you. I may not know you but I care very much and hope that you'll get better. Look after yourself, because you need you and the world needs you too. All the love ❤️
@supimpanda23124 жыл бұрын
My heart goes out to that Korean guy he's definitely still in a very dark place
@prateetibarua46074 жыл бұрын
Nobody really, really escapes that dark place
@wanderer16044 жыл бұрын
and probably will continue to be as long as transphobic people have their more destructive beliefs and behaviors.
@dayawalker4 жыл бұрын
"It's selfish because of the family members you'll let alone " They caused my depression
@juni6714 жыл бұрын
Ikr I don't even know most of them
@LittleSongBird-gt1eo4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I get that and it hurts to know that its true for me because they do t know and I love them to death
@nimzeez4 жыл бұрын
I completely understand. It's the same for me. But if you have friends, think about them? And also know that you WILL find someone who you would not want to leave. But I think it's very important to understand that you have to find the will to live because you yourself is enough of a reason to stay alive. I know that's hard for me right now but it is possible. Take care ❤️
@johnathonbowling63084 жыл бұрын
To say suicide is selfish is DANGEROUS to a person who is suicidal. That almost pushed me over the edge because it made me feel like I was a bigger problem. Choose your words CAREFULLY when talking about this.
@rainrarity32564 жыл бұрын
Yeah
@viriamadaniela35893 жыл бұрын
This helped me so much. I searched this topic to give myself another reason, but knowing that others experience what I go through helped me take a step back
@gavgavgavie3 жыл бұрын
Hey, I just wanted to let you know that you are so loved! Even if it doesn't feel like it at times, you deserve all the happiness in the world. I'm rooting for you, it will get better! You are so extraordinary, and you don't even have to try. Remember to seek the lifelines Jubilee listed if you ever need to.
@victoriaroig90405 жыл бұрын
I got chills when everyone choose agree at 'it gets better'
@Caelus15 жыл бұрын
victoria roig well. I am a survivor and I would choose “totally disagree”. Maybe some of day picked out to try to “save” other people watching. I noticed that most of them tried to die more out of an “impulse” than because of a chronic condition (I have a chronic condition that will make me depressed until I die). It certainly doesn’t got better for me. Maybe if someone see this comment and reply in 4 years I can answer this again.
@SonnDraco5 жыл бұрын
@@Caelus1 what about now
@Honeysmma5 жыл бұрын
RIGHT
@CherriesDemure5 жыл бұрын
It seems to get better but it just plummets again.
@agusgamalerio90385 жыл бұрын
@@Caelus1 completly agree. It doesn't always gets better. And I do think they all were "spontaneous suicide survivors", so the ones that y tought and planned it for years are not included
@MissAJ-here5 жыл бұрын
“ I want to live, but it’s really hard to do that.” That is the words that hit home so hard
@YourGirlSudanny5 жыл бұрын
Same✨
@daniellewatson71375 жыл бұрын
AJ Armytage-reed fr
@andrewphil23664 жыл бұрын
Not same
@RookE20115 жыл бұрын
1. This is too short 2. Aster's fashion is on point 3. Mental health is important Edit. This is in no order
@campbell6865 жыл бұрын
RookE2011 1. Yes 2. It really confuses me. Are his eyebrows part of his hair? 3. Yes
@nevaehjohnson25985 жыл бұрын
Campbell It’s a birthmark
@cxllin21785 жыл бұрын
No
@user-ow2kx4cd2p5 жыл бұрын
Is aster a man or a woman
@Unknown-tv1df5 жыл бұрын
4. Alia is so pretty
@DecemberSfy2 жыл бұрын
As someone who has dealt with suicidal depression for 15 years and is 20 years in age, believing that suicidal attempts are selfish really hurts me because all you want is for it to be over and for everything to finally be okay. It’s like you never have a moment to breathe, a time where you can feel truly happy. Each day and night you’re asphyxiated by your own thoughts and dark feelings or devoid emotion, so you’ll often believe leaving will benefit those around you because you feel like a waste of space or a heavy burden. Or simply that it’s so painful to live, why keep on going? My incentives were staying around for loved ones and career. But sometimes that isn’t even enough. Many days I still wish I were dead and have almost achieved it. Yet I keep on going. Sometimes without knowing why. It’s absolutely sickening to me that this mental illness is romanticized since it is such agony to wrestle with. It feels like a constant suffering I can only find temporary suppressants for. So stop and take a minute to understand this brings torment to those who endure it, so fetishizing it does a great disservice to those who have it. Kinda like how announcing you’re gay/trans to get attention is extremely disrespectful to those who are actually having trouble coming out. (And for those wondering, I’m doing alright but it’s a constant struggle.) Update (9 months later): I'm in a much better place now. And for the first time in fifteen years, I've gone nearly a month without wanting to end my life or attempting to. Here's hoping the streak continues.
@monejohn9973 Жыл бұрын
Its only selfish if you have kids otherwise you don't owe anything to anyone! You didn't ask to be born...
@DecemberSfy Жыл бұрын
@amelianowicka2789thank you for checking up on me. I was doing great for a while but am back to being unwell. I fight to survive but there's only so much more I can take.
@honeypots87875 жыл бұрын
Honestly bless the woman in the white tank top for doing what we all wanted to do all these episodes Just _Comfort_
@giovanny83895 жыл бұрын
Pants who yeah but she keeps interrupting people
@breezybabe00195 жыл бұрын
Giovanny N she was just adding points to what a korean guy was saying 😒
@giovanny83895 жыл бұрын
breezy babe001 yeah by interrupting them
@honeypots87875 жыл бұрын
@ree, exactly!!!! She's gonna age to be that sweet black grandma who makes spaghetti for kids and calls people baby
@perfectlyimperfectmae61375 жыл бұрын
Someone to lean on..I would loved to be her friend.
@serdashehu5 жыл бұрын
The black girl is a real sweetheart i wish she was my friend
@Bronzebeautejojo5 жыл бұрын
Serda Shehu she’s really pretty too!
@lstealth5 жыл бұрын
im sure she has a hell of an attitude that comes with it.
@me-wz2wd5 жыл бұрын
Asuna FortniteVideos WOW. Tell us how you really feel sis. Your the only one with the attitude and your a racist. Not all black woman are the same and she*is* a kind person. Stop hating🙄
@lstealth5 жыл бұрын
@@me-wz2wd anyone can put up a front , in the camera, i never said she wasnt nice, i meant if like you tried her, you would quickly find out , she aint to be messed with either.
@somayab33805 жыл бұрын
The Queen Josie agreed
@leefelix03254 жыл бұрын
I feel like this korean guy is holding back his tears while talking. Please protect him.
@tokkichuri59084 жыл бұрын
bruh
@uhuhlistenboimyfirstlovest42394 жыл бұрын
Them cough cough
@garfieldlover90004 жыл бұрын
Uh oh Stinky okay I’m sorry but are u referring to the coronavirus? Because he’s Asian? Dude wtf please tell me I’m wrong Edit: ya’ll stop attacking me I’m the comments okay?? I just thought that they were a nine year old making a racist joke, at the time it didn’t occur to me that they could’ve been correcting the person’s pro nouns or gender.
@inky82364 жыл бұрын
@@uhuhlistenboimyfirstlovest4239 what a dick move
@uhm94694 жыл бұрын
@@garfieldlover9000 I think they might've been referring to Asters gender? They may not know he's a trans guy.
@hiitstu Жыл бұрын
this episode speaks to me on such a personal level. whenever i feel like i’m at my low point, i’m coming back watching this to know that i’m not alone & there are people who are going through this as well. thank you to the participants for the courage to speak openly about this topic, it means a lot to some people out there! 🖤
@B0neyKingofN0where5 жыл бұрын
"It's okay to not be okay" is such a strong and emotional thing to realize within oneself.
@amalinaalisha59655 жыл бұрын
no it’s not. Please, it’s ok to have a time for yourself when you’re not okay but it’s wrong when you don’t even want to treat yourself.
@aminjomaa995 жыл бұрын
Oh my days how is this so bad?
@Bevsworld045 жыл бұрын
@@amalinaalisha5965 you cant be happy all the time because then you wont know sadness so you cant sympathise with people.
@amalinaalisha59655 жыл бұрын
Bevsworld04 I'm not saying that we can be happy all the time. But It's definetly not ok when you dont want to treat yourself and keep think about your sadness. I do have a up and down like a normal people but I realize that if I want to keep healthy I must not fallen too deep in the sadness. Lastly, I can sympathise with other people sis.
@goolumf5 жыл бұрын
dummyyyoongs _ I think ur missing the point of the quote but oke
@fjskajfjjvjas92895 жыл бұрын
I love how jubilee listens to their audience 😭
@deethearies5 жыл бұрын
Carrington Hughes facts! I was reading the comments on a different video and I seen this suggestion and I just KNEW that was gonna make for a good video
@britmicheyeager59955 жыл бұрын
Carrington Hughes IKR so many ppl have recommended this and it’s nice to know they actually look at their community and suggestions ❤️😉👍🏾😄I’ve been waiting for a video like this for a while.
@niyahpia5 жыл бұрын
I seriously love them
@tamtamr90815 жыл бұрын
yes!
@swatideshmukh22804 жыл бұрын
The fact that the women attempted suicide because of assualt speaks for itself
@shenenenenenleelelelelee56754 жыл бұрын
I was assaulted by my cousin 6 months ago. It still haunts me, im writing letters to everyone I lovr and distancing myself. I'm planning. I just need the shame to go away
@swatideshmukh22804 жыл бұрын
@@shenenenenenleelelelelee5675 darling please be strong the world loves you, I hope everything will be fine, please don't do anything to yourself, please take care
@simonedebeauvoir85524 жыл бұрын
@@shenenenenenleelelelelee5675 darling, you have no reason to be ashamed for something you were the victim of. shame on them for hurting you. please, talk to someone, you are worth so much and please, take care of yourself
@amyaldred7294 жыл бұрын
@@shenenenenenleelelelelee5675 please don’t do it. you are so so loved and you are worth it you are worth living. im sure you’re an amazing person. please don’t do it im always here to talk
@emily-ws6in4 жыл бұрын
please be strong
@safteynet.ariana42002 жыл бұрын
from a person who has tried to commit, i think this is SOOO brave going on here and i am proud of every single one of these people ❤️
@tumishomagongwa2 жыл бұрын
Fr!♡
@Kam1yaah4 жыл бұрын
I felt when they said people try to make Mental illnesses a trend, trust me you don’t want Anxiety, social anxiety, ADHD, or OCD it’s not fun, and any other mental illness.
@mirific52114 жыл бұрын
Its so fucked up that alot of people think they do have depression just because their online bf left them
@Kam1yaah4 жыл бұрын
@@mirific5211 exactly 💀
@Kam1yaah4 жыл бұрын
@Cindy L right 🤦🏾♀️
@itecolote4 жыл бұрын
Exactly, for me it's anorexia / eating disorder, you don't want to live like that every minute of every hour of everyday of your life. It sucks and it's so detrimental to your mental health and physical health. I'm so grateful that I'm getting the help I need now, and if anyone else is dealing with the same thing or something similar or whatever, my heart goes out to you ♡
@Kam1yaah4 жыл бұрын
@@itecolote Hope everything goes well for you and others ♥️❣️
@brighton_mariee4 жыл бұрын
That lady running over there to give her a hug was literally the sweetest thing I have ever seen. We need more people like that.
@aishwarya56633 жыл бұрын
Don't say we need more people like that. Just say we need to be like her :)
@Roachiscomingforyou3 жыл бұрын
not in corona now but still yeah.. maybe air hug.
@mostlyharuno99233 жыл бұрын
Aww , i also wanted to hug her and also that trans guy ,🥲🥲🥲but.......
@emineelifylmaz66023 жыл бұрын
@@mostlyharuno9923 I'm sending you a lot of virtual hugs my friend ❤🧡💛💚💙💜
@NeonDefense3853 жыл бұрын
Yeah that was so wholesome
@user-zt3rt8zo2g5 жыл бұрын
we need to normalize discussions about men's mental health.
@4santee5 жыл бұрын
Facts
@xxTheCatsMeow5 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. I was admitted to a psychiatric hospital twice, first time when I was 14, and second time when I was 22. When I was 22, I'd say about 70 percent of the patients there were men. I met so many great people, a lot of men who struggled with their mental health their entire lives. A lot of them felt they could never talk about it to their friends or family in fear of seeming weak or judged.
@amarettopunsch14965 жыл бұрын
Definetly agree. I think we put to much weight on men's shoulder and therefore they might act like they are tough. It is ok not to be ok
@ahahhah4355 жыл бұрын
your so cliche
@jacobm8045 жыл бұрын
@@ahahhah435 how hateful do u have to be to say that?