6 Taylor Swift Fans vs 1 Secret Hater | Odd One Out

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0:00 intro
0:11 round 1
5:02 Trivia Round
7:55 round 3
11:52 final reveal

[@jubilee]

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[@SpiritSlayer1]

What’s your favorite Taylor Swift song?

[@Soph1aF]

@@SpiritSlayer1 Mine is innocent or Haunted

[@jensilkey7334]

mee

[@jvma3747]

Iam watching it for like 1 hour

[@Florb_Underscore46]

Great Video as per usual!! Would you consider doing this but with One Direction Fans?? It's another very dedicated fanbase and would have hit potential :)

[@mxmaddds]

you can be a taylor fan without needing to know everything about her.

[@gimygaming8655]

Exactly why the guy with the girlfriend stayed in the game. He didn't know much but still liked her music

[@MsBlushing24]

You can be a taylor hater and not run your mouth in the comment section

[@PandoraStolen]

Yeah but it's a game and each round is timed and they have to vet people out one way or another

[@user-pp3qg9lk4v]

@@MsBlushing24he is genuinely speaking the truth though

[@lindseyrae8598]

This

[@Val-xx]

Taylor could be the biggest cult leader of all time if she wanted to 😭

[@jhefferson9048]

Don't know what you talking about she already is.

[@ieevux]

you've obviously never heard of oli sykes then

[@avr7120]

@@ieevux wait, what about him? i listen to bmth but i havent heard of a cult o.o

[@udokanmaogbonna387]

I don’t just of a Taylor as jershey girl and very iconic the pink hair lady is giving iff

[@NiddyGriddy_]

She literally is lol

[@inspirobotinspiration4360]

Shoutout to Jon for representing the fans who just like an artist for their music. Remember, just because you don't know everything, go to every event, or listen to every song doesn't mean you're "not a real fan."

[@angela-kc3wc]

orin says they shouldn’t bring up the palestine genocide in a room filled with swiftlets but then proceeds to say taylor swift is a role model and allows people’s voices to be heard?? lmao what??

[@dolleque]

THE WAY HE SAYS "ALLOWS PEOPLE VOICES TO BE HEARD" WHEN PALESTINE IS LITERALLY BEING SILENCED..... WHAT A HYPOCRITE

[@favouriteghost]

no no no allows white american swift fan's voices to be heard, i believe is what he meant

[@BOBBOB-dy9xw]

Timestamp??

[@TheHannes16]

@@BOBBOB-dy9xw after the mole was exposed

[@wat3rsh3ll]

@@BOBBOB-dy9xw 15:12

[@mangop1e]

celebrity worship is genuinely concerning

[@percyweasley9301]

You are new to concept of superstars?

[@luckyshow98]

@@percyweasley9301 stop being facetious, did they say they were new? Expressing a contrary opinion is still allowed.

[@owlstarot]

small minded people..

[@mistypedhi]

Agreed

[@boredapathetic]

yeah i just found this video sad. they’re not talking about her talent, her music, etc. they’re obsessed with her as a person

[@Claudebar]

This is the bravest hater of all times 🤣🤣🤣

[@angapleee]

was so proud

[@textinggirl3681]

He ate thattt

[@sunrisemysara]

Sameeeeee

[@hbmento8102]

Fr I was not expecting them to make that turn in this type of vid and make them somewhat uncomfortable, but they went OFF🔥🔥🔥

[@millennialauntiejess7177]

We stan

[@mhsmci_edits]

If you showed this video to someone without context, they’d think it was 6 cult members vs 1 non cult member 💀

[@miyeon_luv]

Like be fr - just because u don’t know everything abt her doesn’t mean u aren’t a swiftie

[@Ai_HoshinoXoxo]

​@@miyeon_luvikr, you can be a fan of her music without Knowing everything, like if it was a movie, I'd expect you to know everything from the best scenes, to the worst scenes, to the most controversial character, to your favourite character etc etc But it's just taylor, all you need to know is her songs not her whole life

[@randyfan]

charlie ate his speech up

[@amy3734]

I’m a huge Swift fan but totally disagree with Orin. Role models should be criticized. Celebrities should not be idolized and given a free pass just because they speak out when it’s convenient to them. Props to Charlie for being so honest. That was brave.

[@naimaMohamed-px6uy]

exactly. What is happening in Palestine should matter to her just like how the LGBTQ rights do

[@lailaauto33]

This!

[@Taylorswiftarmpitsweat]

@@naimaMohamed-px6uy lqbtq rights>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Palestine

[@Taylorswiftarmpitsweat]

@@naimaMohamed-px6uy no Mohammed. Lgbtq rights >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Palestine

[@t-troublemaker7706]

im also a swiftie and i absolutely agree with you. taylor has so much influence and her saying something would make a big difference.

[@solaris04]

them brushing off the palestine issue was honestly dystopian to watch

[@elisazouza]

yup espically orion :/ like what a privllege to be ignorant

[@hadassah6563]

Orrr maybe the whole truth of the matter is maybeee some of them dont support palestine including taylor?

[@miyalol1862]

like is this real

[@TheAbundance1337]

I agree, horrible what happened to the Jews. Stand with Israel.

[@Vanessa-fs7oz]

​@@hadassah6563 Do you mean to say maybe they all don't care about genocide or that they support it? I sure hope not.. It's not even about one nation vs another nation at this point. It's one of the most vile human rights crises in history, a genocidal massacre. I'd rather believe those who say nothing are just ignorant/ignoring the issue than to think they are well aware of what's happening and in full support of the genocide. 😔 I think the truth is that Taylpr probably doesn't want to "pick a side" because she sees it as a two sided issue, and that's an ignorant take since, like I said, it's genocide. It's not a nation vs nation war at this point. Never really was..

[@applesyves8939]

their responses to charlies point on palestine is exactly why i dont associate with swifties or taylor is general

[@duckyeleganza2]

what does that have to do with taylor..

[@duckyeleganza2]

@@playingcasual2024 she doesn’t have to do anything.. yall need to realize that

[@fawbs356]

@@duckyeleganza2She doesn’t have to do anything but it shows the type of person she is if she’s not

[@randomgirlvibes]

​@@playingcasual2024 Taylor Swift can't do anything about it. Either way, supporters from either side will be toxic and she may be cancelled. Aswell as that, it's not necessary for awareness bc it's already all over.

[@MinhV-gi3ov]

ok you might as well not support any artist in general

[@rawanyasmine4206]

as a taylor fan, I actually feel enraged that she isn't speaking up about the genocide being committed on the Palestinians and for those swifties to not care and to say things like "this is about Taylor being uplifting and a role model" is absolutely insane. check your privilege (ESPECIALLY orin and chrystale).

[@edenandjam]

This is insane. I love taylor swift & her music but it seems like they genuinely think she can do no wrong. And the way that they brushed off the palestine issue & carbon emissions was crazy. Telling the mole “you’re so passionate and I love that for you but we only care about Taylor” was insanity.

[@myAchillesHeel]

no one thinks she's not wrong. obviously she's part of the problem with her private jet. doesn't change the fact that she's not even top 30 on the list even after having the biggest year, and those 30 people have yet to receive criticism for it. people make think pieces and made Taylor a punching bag for her private jet every single day, yet not a single voice is raised against Travis Scott who's number one and Beyonce

[@edenandjam]

@@myAchillesHeel I agree with what youre saying as well. I think that celebrities have been using private jets and taking short flights out of convenience for so long (kylie jenner, mark wahlberg, floyd mayweather) yet she’s the only one who is being hated on to this extent. I also do think that most of the people who are hating on her often dont care about the climate crisis but want a reason to point at her and say “look, this is why we should hate her.” But I also do think the people in the video brushed off her very real wrongdoings way too quickly and that they didnt acknowledge the very real problems that are caused by her actions/lack of actions.

[@robynveronica3254]

Forreall!!!!

[@rinobiskit_4149]

@@edenandjam I agree with this but its like half agreeing because there are topics which people go way overhand but i do agree with what youre saying

[@johanlebeirt9012]

theres not palistine issue she hasnt spoken bc it doesn't concern her

[@whataboutthetea846]

Orin saying it’s not a topic for a box with Taylor Swift fans….for you to idolize someone soo much and make excuses for them is crazy 😭

[@Azarath_Metrion_Zinthos]

U r a k-poppie you shouldn't be the one to make that advice 💀

[@stackedlemons4789]

​@@Azarath_Metrion_Zinthoswhy are you so obsessed with this comment section LMAOO i've seen your comments a lot ?? like girl i promise taylor doesn't care abt you, obsessed asf for what ☠️

[@MariamAlhajri-et7qd]

It’s true accept it or not stay in rage obsessed hypocrites @@Azarath_Metrion_Zinthos

[@whataboutthetea846]

@@Azarath_Metrion_Zinthos oh because I like a genre of music I can’t hold people accountable? I don’t idolize Kpop idols SOO much that I would ignore wrong doings or them being silent during a GENOCIDE.

[@usucktoo]

​@@whataboutthetea846so i guess you agree that all the kpop boys and girls you stan are guilty of supporting the genocide of Palestinians. And if you're not calling out kpop as an industry for the genocide, then you are just as compacent as them

[@RahafsPOV]

PREACH DOGFACE!!! 👏🏼 You can like a celebrity but acknowledge their silence!

[@eiramharas]

👏🏼👏🏼

[@anacsgo]

jon is what more music fans should be like lmfao. casual and liking the music

[@Blxckgf]

What does supporting quietly do?? That was such an unintelligent thing to say. Then the audacity to feel rage over it ?? They just brought up how she caused a huge rise in voting through JUST an article while playing. What does being silent do ? I do not believe that you can be a fan of someone if you are able to block them from criticism that could ultimately make them a better person. This is why no one likes swifties.

[@aaq1655]

There's no genocide

[@Blxckgf]

@@aaq1655 this isn’t avatar the last air bender. Wake up or stop joining in on intelligent discussions.

[@Juzzzer]

What is saying "genocide bad" gonna do? Do you think the IDF cares about Taylor Swifts opinion on what they're doing? Be so serious, yall are so chronically online you don't realize how clownish your comments are.

[@Blxckgf]

@@Juzzzer I really hate that I have to share this beautiful earth with people like you. Common sense isn’t so common. It puts eyes and pressure on Palestine and our governments. If she was able to increase voting rates here with just an article, why wouldn’t you think “America’s princess”. Wouldn’t have a social impact on how the matter is being treated or discussed. Both me and Taylor are AMERICANS. AMERICA is what’s funding Israel. Now stop talking to me. It’s always the “chronically online” talking point losers who are always online with nothing to add. Get a hobby. There’s a genocide going on.

[@ellem7014]

@@Blxckgfyou ate with that hekpfjkrvsbdvks and i agree.

[@myaeism]

supporting quietly is insane.. 😭

[@cookiesandcreammmmmmjj2828]

and not to mention, her being black makes it worse because didn’t ur own people suffer as well?

[@emgems444]

fr like how is that helpful at all??

[@sumii_i]

people are so privileged and so ignorant its insane

[@suandgogh6189]

She is black as well which is disappointing of her to say

[@fadfudge4719]

people should be loudly condemning hamas

[@f4rtonyomama]

her carbon footprint is literally unlike no other celebs are u kidding

[@hiyou5622]

She’s top 30 in celebs people like you will ignore other celebs like Travis who is number one just so you have a reason to hate please grow up

[@negressprincess]

The main problem is that she uses it for the shortest trips ever😭

[@ivyfuss3350]

There's 30 celebrities above her on the list. Literally stop lying and do your research. Not saying it's okay, that kind of criticism is perfectly valid as long as you're doing the same to those other 30 celebrities. But the fact is, 99% of the people complaining about her CO2 emissions are not which is why Swifties do not care about your hate, because you literally only hate it because she is Taylor Swift.

[@f4rtonyomama]

@@hiyou5622 even without her carbon footprint i’d still have numerous other reasons to hate her 💋

[@addysonwagner]

she’s not even in the top 30 of the worst carbon footprints from celebs

[@hamdii6206]

i’m so glad charlie (dogface) mentioned palestine like i totally agree with every thing they said and the other people like cysrtale getting enraged and orin saying they shouldn’t speak about it bc they r swifties is what enraged me actually.. why shouldn’t she speak about it? especially if she has such strong influence, like ur not even saying she doesn’t have to, it’s she shouldn’t. crazyy

[@Tawonted]

She is not obligated to speak, you need to calm down

[@Yasmine-gs1md]

@@Tawonted She literally has 105.27 million listeners on Spotify. She could at least spread awareness about it? The fact that she calls herself a feminist but wont even speak out about Palestinian women getting r@ped and murdered everyday is disgusting.

[@odeleya1768]

@@Yasmine-gs1mdyou’re not a feminist if you ignore the voices of the Israeli women who were r*ped. Don’t talk about feminism

[@EliHowington]

okay but its not her job to talk about it, im pro-palestine all the way but shes an entertainer. her job is to entertain, nothing more. personally i dont think any celebrity should be talking about their personal political views, it has nothing to do with their careers.

[@MarielBramli]

@@Yasmine-gs1md she is not a politician, she doesn't need to speak about anything.

[@ays7466]

Chrystale feeling rage inside as the person talked about Taylor Swift not speaking on Palestine FOR Taylor swfit and not for the victims..speaks volumes

[@jesiperales1411]

exactly!!

[@alovehotel]

Shows how privileged they are

[@claratackla3953]

​@alovehotel that's exactly how I see her fans lol

[@suhay1a]

Exactlyyyyyy! and the fact that she said taylor could talk about it quietly?? like no, everyone knows how much political influence she has even with the voting thing. she cant even manage a simple "ceasefire now"

[@user-hm3sc1hi8q]

@@suhay1a Picking a side is not going to change anything

[@theoutside7]

“It’s just not a topic to put in a box with a bunch of Taylor swift fans” says it all

[@naimaMohamed-px6uy]

yep😒

[@lovesickmiles3625]

automatically knew they are someone who prob doesn't even speak out either

[@Shedgie]

That pissed me off so much just the general disregard for the people suffering from genocide when if taylor can be used as a tool to help elect biden then she can be a tool to uplift Palestinian voices and spread awareness of the crimes being committed against these innocent civilians

[@sandali_dz]

exactly

[@BradsPitts.]

Yea, I wouldn’t want to be stuck in a box with an ignorant anti-Semite either

[@edenevans878]

The ending is why I don't call myself a Swiftie. I can't be lumped with y'all. That was so dystopian to watch someone say she can just "quietly support" Palestine or that she shouldn't have to speak on Palestine when she literally has enough power that the Japanese embassy made a statement about something as meaningless as whether she'd be able to make it on time to the Super Bowl. No she doesn't have to, but it's unethical to have that much power and choose not to do anything when 29,000 people (and counting) have lost their lives.

[@Fartsniffer190]

Fr

[@baintreachas]

to watch someone actually say “yea, when I talk about the incredible power of Taylor Swift, I meant her ability to leverage her status for personal fame and fortune, not to, idk, act with the moral responsibility of a human being.” Also, I get they’re caught off guard, but it felt like a complaint where it’s like… yes, hearing about an ongoing genocide isn’t a fun, jovial thing- that’s kind of the point, Christ. Some sociologist (in training?) on YT made a video essay about Taylor Swift a while back and I think this is a great companion piece to that. It’s so dystopian to see people embrace their individuality enough to be peppy! but not enough to be engaged with the world around them in any actually meaningful way… to the point that even suggesting _anyone_ should is popping a bubble

[@Arkasha-Z]

Maybe the reason she hasn't supported it is because Taylor Swift and her pride/feminism supporting ideals are things that Hamas has vowed to stand against and sees as evil and against their religion???

[@AmayaOrca]

Fr

[@cookieeofcc]

its not her job to start sharing her opinions

[@anisa2273]

i agree with Charlie/Dogface 100%, i can't like a celebrity like her who only does performative activism and says nothing about the biggest things that matter

[@mjvb09]

At this point, liking Taylor Swift could be a religion 💀

[@DAdONuT_FN]

fr fr fr fr fr fr fr

[@Kanatean]

with every other celebrities

[@michaeljohndadd545]

666th like

[@kaiyzxa]

her fans be culty asf 💀💀

[@emmyh1909]

and I'd join it

[@tgonnabfamous13]

So going back to being a millionaire from a Billionaire automatically makes you ethical again? 😂😂😂

[@strawbabbie]

people praised jk rowling for it so yeah her fans would eat it up

[@y3llow00]

what do you think wealth redistribution is about? It should be more radical than just stopping at being a millionaire, but we live in a capitalist world not a perfect one

[@tgonnabfamous13]

@@y3llow00 I get that but I’m saying if just being a billionaire makes you none ethical, giving more money away doesn’t automatically make you more ethical. How you make your money in the first place determines if and how ethical you are in my mind. You can give all you want and still be a “bad” person.

[@violett874]

​@@tgonnabfamous13That's a fair point. And wealth redistribution should be done via taxes anyway, not individual billionaires picking and choosing who and what is "worthy" of their charity. I've been on the receiving end of that, and let me tell you, it feels gross.

[@tgonnabfamous13]

@@violett874 very great point

[@yorkshire_tea_innit8097]

I literally rofl'd when Orin said "we're focused on Swift being a role model and uplifting and people knowing their voices are heard, rather than fixing global warming and war in the Gaza Strip"

[@nehalilisays]

It's the classic "mental health vs. everything else" I guess.

[@hurricania]

this was my favorite reveal ever on this channel charlie is actually the coolest person ever

[@乂]

Like them or not, Taylor Swift has a cultlike fanbase 🤣

[@bunez69x]

No? That's just the media's view, give me a clear example of how her fans just chilling and supporting her are cult like, for example, kanye west's fans act more cult like.

[@khadijahbegum3546]

@@zovacz yes

[@claudia273]

Can you name some examples?

[@ewrock7635]

Nothing cute or funny about it, though. It's disturbing.

[@claudia273]

@@ewrock7635 why is it disturbing?

[@silencio3608]

Orin reaction to Charlie speech is why I think some taylor (celebrities fans in general) are so futile. They will care more about their own parasocial relationship than actual real life problems

[@babsi4395]

exactly

[@PandoraStolen]

What's even more concerning is they'll care about whatever their favorite celebrity tells them to care about and they'll take the side that their favorite celebrity does without doing any of their own research. That's far more concerning

[@tyr4766]

No one cares about muslims

[@WOWOWOWOOWOWOWAHHHHHHHHHHH]

them acknowledging taylor swift helped increase voting just by one singular mention then dismissing Palestine is the most ironic thing

[@cornpeal8945]

Same and chrystelle smh

[@jawbreaker087]

as a swiftie im scared of these swifties because wtf 😭😭

[@rae-ou5hf]

I KNOW. i’ve been a swiftie for years but apparently you’re not considered a swiftie unless you know her mother’s maiden name, the name of her first pet, and her social security number 😐😐

[@emma_GOOSEOG2613]

@@rae-ou5hfFRR and ur not a swiftie if u don’t know like EVERY LITTLE THING ABT HER like why can’t I just be a swiftie cus I like her music 😭😭😭

[@kikipalmtrees]

really ironic for orin to say taylor's purpose is to let people know that their voices can be heard to then completely diminish and not hear charlie's voice

[@Mochimuffin123]

Putting genocide and global warming in the same category is kinda crazy

[@studying_myself]

Frrr

[@hhellyxoxo]

Why tho?

[@ashleyminter]

why

[@user-qf4vo2qy9m]

@@hhellyxoxo Comparing global warming to genocide, such as the conflict between Israel and Palestine, is highly inappropriate and problematic. Genocide involves intentional and systematic violence targeting specific groups of people based on their identity, while global warming is a complex phenomenon driven by human activities like burning fossil fuels and deforestation. Equating the two minimizes the gravity of genocide, which represents one of the darkest aspects of human history, characterized by mass atrocities and profound suffering. Additionally, genocide is a crime under international law with identifiable perpetrators, whereas global warming does not fit within the legal framework of genocide and lacks intentional human agency to the same extent. Such comparisons risk diverting attention and resources away from the urgent need to address the root causes and consequences of global warming, hindering efforts to combat climate change effectively...

[@tammy5466]

​@@user-qf4vo2qy9mwait I'm so confused on your point. Genocide is horrible and indefensible but so I'd global warming. Especially because both come from the same root cause of greed and capitalism. I'm just confused on why you think they can't be compared when they're both horrible things that are happening today.

[@Twilight2Dawn]

Love how it became a middle ground episode at the end

[@Teja-tm4zi]

LMAO FR

[@arsoudarded363]

underrated comment lmao

[@lemon4087]

lololol

[@avr7120]

ok but a middle ground with swifties vs. punks would actually make sense in a way

[@jubilee]

okay keep cooking

[@aleskairean]

It's been years since I've been called racial slurs in a serious/threatening manner... until a few months ago when I commented about not liking Taylor on a public post. Her fans are rabid, and she does not do enough to call out the horrible behavior of her fanbase. Of course, she is not responsible for anyone else's actions, but with her level of influence, she could at LEAST say this is unacceptable. I'm far from alone in this experience, too.

[@eaba1846]

supporting quietly is crazy

[@bunlian9683]

Orin's speech at the end is peak irony you just have to laugh

[@giulia6344]

Orin was voted out by the other swifties because he’s the annoying type of Swiftie that gives all of us a bad rep

[@AA-ed6ek]

@@giulia6344 You do that yourselves.

[@giulia6344]

@@AA-ed6ekwe’re not all the same bruv. Some of us can separate loving her music from loving her, and we are able to criticise her.

[@xtessyoutube]

FRR

[@Yoest.1]

Honestly that’s how I’ve seen majority of swifties act like especially on Twitter. Orin is one of the thousands that have that mindset and all just to worship Taylor Swift. (Not saying all her fans are like that but they has been way too many toxic Taylor fans and it’s the fact that she doesn’t call them out which also bothers me)

[@samuelgold7222]

Imagine being this obsessed with another human like this?

[@callie5593]

what about sports fans?

[@handleit_289]

Better than sports fans who break things if their team loses

[@Malaka_013]

​@@callie5593 im yet to meet a sports fan who knows their favorite athletes dogs by name, and knows their favorite food... this is insanity

[@Latte23749]

​@callie5593 u brain dead. The op's statement applies to everyone even sports. He didn't say except sports.

[@mau.lover23]

I know imagine taking the time to watch videos related to that person just to spread hate

[@Gabagoose_13]

Anyone else who thought John was the Mole, and his girlfriend was the real Swiftie?

[@soobintheestalIion]

15:03 we don’t gaf abt you being uncomfortable. if you’re uncomfortable with the conversation, it needs to be had.

[@funkunko]

exactly like imagine how uncomfortable the thousands of people being bombed feel.. just horrific

[@CrustyBroBugs]

Charlie had the best reason to dislike taylor swift because she is really a performative activist and only uses the feminist card when it is beneficial to her. I appreciate Charlie/Dogface so much ❤❤❤

[@Sahbaz83]

Yeah, compared to other artists who use the feminist card much more efficiently to benefit everyone.

[@barnaby4232]

@@Sahbaz83like what though?

[@BigPapiMatt]

GEZE! His name is Dogface

[@grse1138]

@@barnaby4232girl everything.. she only speaks on “feminism” when someone criticizes her. But she can’t speak up for the women being sexually abused and bombed in Gaza. Yeah it’s performative and shows she only uses her “white feminism” so people will feel bad for her

[@AlexD-dh2vr]

@@barnaby4232 I think it was sarcastic. It must be.

[@Nyualum21]

Nothing wrong with being a fan of an artist, but the celebrity worship is really weird to me

[@EMMA-zo3rg]

love how that one guy ended it by saying genocide might be an issue, but taylor swift is more important than an entire group of people being bombed like wake tf up

[@RJBricks-1001]

I don’t remember him saying that

[@blubaylon]

​@@RJBricks-1001"I'm glad he's passionate about that but I don't really care..."

[@blazer9547]

Hamas started the war.

[@birdyu]

imposter is even weirder than any swifty

[@leximatejeck4995]

“she could be silently supporting” is a JOOOKKKKEEEEE like really????

[@DGoldy303]

I agree. Silently supporting hamas is bad too. 👎

[@evjenvei]

Or alternatively she doesn't care?? Not everybody supports Islamic terrorism. The silent majority is with Israel. The loud tiktokers are with the terrorists. Celebrities have no place in politics.

[@annanowak9620]

Disappointing

[@codingwithshivani791]

I mean she did go to a fundraiser to support Palestine.

[@vineandtiktok5383]

so did she support that joke about camera angles about her quietly too then since she didnt react lmao

[@kristen21023]

I expect this behavior from kids and teens...not young adults.

[@kamuilasia5813]

You poor thing. It gets worse

[@vloggetts]

Orin’s 35 😅

[@elclassico6388]

Age is not a barrier

[@scaynle]

​​​@@elclassico6388*🤨*

[@I-io8ee]

NAh some of these people are nearing middle aged adults. It's pathetic

[@ihatehandles111]

YESSS DOGFACE THANK YOU FOR SPEAKING ABOUT PALESTINE!!! You are 100000000x cooler than everyone else up there...

[@Kitti_B]

I was obsessed,a huge fan of a band. I took a few steps down when I became so close to the band that I knew people from the management. Knowing too much and knowing all those other obsessed fans were SCARY. I promised that I wouldn't become such a huge fan of anything ever again. These people are reminding me of those years and I felt kind of scared.

[@kc3668]

terrible to say ‘oh every other billionaire has a bad carbon footprint so it’s fine when she does it’ when her fuel emissions are 10x any other celebrity. you don’t just forget about the damage that does to the environment because everyone else is doing it.

[@msbebban]

Agreed

[@megship]

She’s #77 on fuel emissions. Try checking your facts next time and go complain about the other 76 people on the list first

[@skoorbryan]

@@megship I hope this comment is ironic because there are over 8 billion humans on earth and to be defending someone in the top 100 people using gas emissions is literally such a wild stance.

[@barnaby4232]

@@skoorbryanthey didn’t say she was excused they simply pointed out the inaccuracy of the original comment, additionally Taylor’s flights make next to no difference on climate change it is beyond minuscule.

[@rachelc9908]

@@megshipLMAO u need help

[@moona5060]

Orin is an example of what happens when top artist don’t want to talk about current issues. When it’s all about the music they influence you to have the mindset of “let’s just not talk about this and ignore and keep living our privileged lives” while they keep making money off of you.

[@Blaxative601]

while I do agree with what you"re saying, I don't know the impact Taylor could have in these topics like the Palestine stuff. Of course, with her influence she can make ppl more aware of what's happening, but how would that benefit Palestine in a actual, meaningful way. (Not a Taylor swift fan btw, can't name 3 of her songs if I tried lol)

[@moona5060]

@@Blaxative601 her fans will eat up whatever she gives them. kehlani and numerous small artists with diverse audiences have made such impacts already. imagine the impact this iconic superstar with a large caucasian audience would create. they view her as a role model

[@chloewu2760]

​@@moona5060 Eh thats not true ; her fanbase is divided when it comes to politics and other things

[@Blaxative601]

Yes, but how will that benefit Palestine, you know? There are issues and topics I believe she and a lot of celebrities can talk about that fans of their work can make a big difference in (Climate change, lgbtq rights, minority rights, etc). Stuff that her audience can change by living/viewing things differently. But how would that impact the bigger issues like the war in palestine? Like let's say I was a taylor swift fan who didnt know about about the Palestine situation. and let's say Taylor now dropped a song or something speaking about the issue and now I am aware and did my research. I still would have zero impact on how the issue is being handled, the only difference is that I am aware of it now. Am I making sense? @@moona5060

[@zoerimel3920]

Wtf does Taylor Swift know about world politics? And why does she suddenly have a responsibility to speak about issues she may not be educated on? Like seriously get real. If you became the most famous person in the world tomorrow would you be taking college classes about world politics? It literally has nothing to do with her

[@gabrieladunn1665]

the comment orin made about how not to bring Palestine up in a room with swifties made me realize these type of Taylor Stans are the problem

[@Lor_Duck]

A friend of mine pointed out to me that My Ordinary Life sums up the relationship between swifties and Taylor and now I can't stop thinking about it.

[@arshiyaamreen5808]

As a Taylor Swift fan, watching these people flippantly brush off whatever wrong Blondie has done and continues to do is so infuriating. Like 'silently support'??? And then have the audacity to feel rage over it? Insanity. Hate to say this but every Swiftie in this episode (with the exception of the boyfriend fan) has proven exactly what SENSIBLE dislikers of Taylor Swift fans say: they're obsessive and will turn a blind eye to whatever she does.

[@illicitaffairkid]

Not to mention she is a POC Like why are you guys doing exactly what white people want you to do I bet she is not even socially aware of what's happening in Sudan and congo

[@myfragileheart]

I’m a huge swiftie too but I agree with u

[@aayush5760]

and what wrong has blondie done exactly?

[@arshiyaamreen5808]

@@aayush5760 private jet usage? Not speaking about Palestinian cause? Not speaking about basically any issue at all? And if you are going to be one of the "celebrities don't owe us to raise awareness" excusers, don't bother replying. A boycott from entirety of Swift's fandom in the US has the power to hamper the US support for Israel tremendously but she won't speak up because it's not her problem.

[@r2ds]

A huge swiftie, but I agree. Don’t be mad when someone is speaking about the truth. Literally I was so mad when they said “I dont think this is the topic to bring up with a bunch of swifities in a box” I feel like this was the most bravest hater and they definitely needed to give those swifties a wake up call lol.

[@vthpsycho]

Ron is actually so sweet for listening to his gf's taste

[@martinguevarra5666]

It’s Jon

[@catherinemesuelo1219]

@@martinguevarra5666Plot twist: It’s a random sentence with the idea that “Ron” is himself, the commenter.

[@vthpsycho]

@@catherinemesuelo1219 lol 😆

[@izzys.galaxy]

finally a positive comment omg

[@Oraxox]

ron WEASLY

[@hirafasih157]

Orin’s monologue at the end 🤣🤣🤣no one’s asking for her to “solve all the worlds problems.” Maybe it would be nice if she chose to speak about it though, considering the fact that she influences half the world’s population.

[@packedsun]

What Charlie said is literally PREACH🙌🙌

[@yyangflwrs]

the last few minutes actually PROVED why taylor needs to speak up about palestine because if a majority of her fans are anything like the ones in this video, they will switch their beliefs from whatever they had before and do what she says, and actually worry about real life issues like a GENOCIDE rather than their own twisted parasocial relationship with her.

[@DGoldy303]

Taylor didn't speak up against the 7/10 hamas attack in Israel but you expect her to speak up about the mysterious "genocide"? Haha!

[@annanowak9620]

She needs to speak about genocide. This is a seripus world topic. People are being killer. This needs to be adressed. No one should be ignorant

[@AllmondISP]

And if she'll say support Israel, How would it make you feel?

[@phoebevaughanx3621]

i’m a taylor swift fan and i support palestine and i think she should speak about it but we don’t know everything and shouldn’t be quick to judge because she has gone to fundraisers for palestine but there’s nothing that she can actually really do is there?

[@Loverera2023]

That is BRAVE of you to assume that all swifties support Palestine. When in reality I do not 1000000% and for any reason u may think. I’m a huge swiftie and I know many More that agree with me

[@whalium889]

I don’t care about celebrities making a statement but it is kind of awkward that Taylor Swift made a whole documentary about being political and an activist and then dropped that

[@Neonvibes1620]

Yup, perfect example of performative activism

[@lithia4483]

She's only vocal about it when it benefits her. Everything she does seems performative but Swifties eat it up every time. And this is coming from someone who's been a fan of her music for 10+ years.

[@user-sy5bj5nd6x]

she like most celebrities who are "political" are just catering to their audience, I dunno why people still for this when its so obvious🌚just like people who used to think Ellen Dewhat her face was "political" or "decent" tbh. If a celebrity was really political they would talk about something not many people know that actually impacts them or take a stand once in a while against the popular opinion -_-

[@hichamsrour1691]

the documentary had a total of 10 mns of political talk... "a whole documentary" be for real

[@royaleariana9006]

She didnt „drop it“ tho?

[@ouiouispaghetti]

13:30 - no hate for Charlie or "dogface" but when he said that she hasn't really spoken that much about the queer community and that she has a social responsibility to speak out more about the problems they face I just found that ridiculous. She is a celebrity (who does support the lgbtq+ community), but she doesn't have a "social responsibility" to talk more about that community. If you don't support it, you don't, if you do, you do. She is an amazing singer/songwriter and more, and she doesn't have to withhold a "social responsibility" to speak MORE about a community just because she is a celebrity, that is NOT her job.

[@thelethalseagull5470]

Its quite scary how much these swifties are attached to her as a person

[@Malaka_013]

Regardless whether you like or dislike her... knowing her pets by name, aswell as her favorite food and other trivial things like that is actual psychopathic behavior

[@kc3668]

I agree and I think Taylor swift would also agree lol

[@Mochimuffin123]

There’s plenty of people who could see that info one time and remember it🤣 it’s really not that crazy lol her pets are named after super well known tv characters

[@claudia273]

Maybe people know her pets by name because one of them has a greater net worth than her boyfriend. 😉

[@YamzieMoyo]

Eh. What people do for funzies is none of my business.

[@lemon4087]

If its a trivia about a youtuber I watch, I think I'd be able to answer most of them. Imagine there's some people who use twitter n insta as much as i watch youtube, then they would defo know these just bc its on the background. Not like they're obsessively tryna know that info(not all at least)

[@Jay-xl4du]

Orin saying that he cares more about Taylor Swift uplifting people who’s voices aren’t heard was probably the most hypocritical thing he could’ve said…the whole problem with the war occurring in Palestine is the fact that Palestinians are being cut off from the world and slaughtered silently if you have as much influence as Taylor you should advocate for what you believe in and her saying absolutely nothing says volumes about her beliefs and morals

[@coltoncvg7404]

And if she does speak up then, the community of people for the Jews are going to hate on her for choosing a side so. 😬

[@aimar2918]

She's literally on the biggest tour of all time, if she speaks about that topic then her public is in danger

[@happylilbookworm6513]

​@@aimar2918Absolutely

[@Cerxts]

Or maybe we can just respect the fact that she wants to stay silent.

[@happylilbookworm6513]

@@Cerxts Yeah people don't have to speak up on every issue that exists ever, no one's denying the war is an issue, it's horrible, but not everyone has to talk about it

[@lylasmith3864]

The “ im drunk in the back of the car” got me rolling on the floor laughing

[@garimakumari8543]

as a hardcore swiftie i completely agree with dogface

[@MissAmericanaa.]

Me too

[@dyltube6395]

No direct hate towards Taylor but calling her “best lyricist of our time” is insane

[@CrustyBroBugs]

Who is it then and cite the lyrics you think. And yes, she is the best of our time, her pen game is insane.

[@NicoleReign]

Like at that point, you’re just prejudice 😭💀

[@shoyohinata9646]

@@CrustyBroBugskanye west.

[@NicoleReign]

@@CrustyBroBugsshe is not the best of our time. She’s brilliant, not the best. The best lyricists, truly, you’ll never see because they’re writing the songs for artists

[@landryschneider3478]

agree

[@shahedm.3718]

Ok Charlie talking about about her not speaking up about the genocide happening in Palestine is the best part of this episode.

[@elephant1871]

Why? Why should she? Why should she speak out on either side? She stayed out of it, and that’s what she needed to do.

[@lluucasiscool]

The conflict isn't black and white. She would be causing lots of arguments and hate by choosing a side publicly.

[@supercoolbugg]

⁠@@elephant1871um why wouldn’t she? she has a huge platform that could help raise awareness and donations. staying silent while a genocide happens isn’t the ‘win’ you think it is.

[@shaimamadi1379]

​@@lluucasiscoolexcept the fact it is, it is genocide, Israeli "civilians" putting up tents in front of the border and protesting against humanitarian aid entering gaza (not that all israelis support this), where plus 30000 people are confirmed dead. More than 100000 are estimated to e dead between those who disappeared those who are still under the rubble, they are getting starved,humiliated, tortured after being in an open air prison for 17y, after being under occupation for 75y. It wasn't black and white when this started and bibi’s lies weren't so obvious, it starts being black and white when u get past ur Islamophobia and racism and get informed on what's happening. She gets hate for anything and everything, getting hate isn't something anyone that famous could avoid, this is important, she's a feminist but apparently white feminism only support women when they want to take off the hijab, it's not valid when they want to wear it or when they are forced to use torn up tents as pads in gaza

[@supercoolbugg]

@@lluucasiscool so sad that she would be causing arguments while a whole genocide is happening. it shouldn’t have to be ‘black and white’ for someone to speak up about it.

[@Bread._..]

I could barely last through this video, I feel so bad for the hater bro

[@Neesaay]

Respect for Dogface🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸

[@Tawonted]

nahhhh

[@lovely8344]

orin was insufferable and so was chrystale. being so obsessed with someone who doesn’t even know you exist is EXTREMELY weird.

[@lefimmify]

Fr we’re at a stalking point that’s considered normal

[@ayajwon.8]

its so arrogant too how they brushed off the thing about palestine, it was so dystopian fr😭

[@ivy23173]

​@@ayajwon.8 it is only because if Swift chooses to be silent about it, they think that it is also ok for them to be like that. It just shows again how much power this woman has if she ever chooses to use it

[@Nika-cg4tp]

Some people are in too deep bro 💀

[@Hedidntsayicouldslay]

True

[@Yoest.1]

My breaking point with Swifties was when they compared her to Micheal Jackson

[@zandikhetwayo7444]

@@Yoest.1They’re delusional 😭

[@butterflygirl141]

Whoever is the least insufferable isn’t a swiftie.

[@swooningtree]

At the same time, I don’t actually see how famous people speaking about Palestine would be practically helpful?

[@NotAmanii]

“Silently support” cut the cameras *deadass*

[@Victori.A1]

What the Internet is expecting; Taylor: " hey guys, gen0 cide bad!" I sraeli government: "welp, I guess we have to stop. Taylor Swift doesn't approve" 🤡

[@NotAmanii]

@@Victori.A1 literally no one’s expecting that we just want her to show support for Palestine, no one with a brain thinks that it’ll stop the Israeli government 💀

[@theunicornbay4286]

​@@Victori.A1 The obvious reason why Taylor is staying completely silent is because she knows that the instanr she brings up what's happening in palestine, she'll lose all her money.

[@user-fw1zh7yj3r]

@@Victori.A1thank you!!!!!❤

[@Victori.A1]

@@NotAmanii there's no point in doing that!!!! It's not going to change anything!!!!

[@mahrunasir9195]

Really happy that dogface/charlie said that "she shouldn't be supporting silently".

[@ashacollier]

yess!!

[@caroa8]

but shes allowed to. she a celeb not a politician

[@juicerslayer]

Nobody cares about Palestine

[@juicerslayer]

Palestine is done bruh 😭

[@valerie4409]

i'm glad i'm not a celebrity cause imagine people disliking you for not speaking up about every war that happens in the world

[@rufilake1788]

they said what needed to be said honestly

[@sophiemiddleton8746]

Palenstine to speak out puts not only her in danger but her fans at her concerts too.

[@kayceeshonk]

my jaw actually fell to the floor when she said supporting quietly

[@jangodarkblade3360]

Is she not embarrassed by that like

[@kylebreslin27]

the people in palestine would throw “dog face” off a building for being trans … lol you’re a hypocrite

[@t-troublemaker7706]

as a swiftie i 100% agree with what charlie/dogface said. taylor has so much influence and she should use it

[@amnaahmed8331]

ur so rite! i love taylor but with the international platform she has she could influence the world in such a positive way by just once speaking out against genocide

[@lalalore13]

agreed! she has so much power and can make such a difference if she were to speak out!

[@grungeisdead_94]

Absolutely. I’d still like rock but at least I’d gain immensely more respect for her if she used her influence more. She could literally change the world..

[@luci3088]

yes same

[@paprikamuffin]

On the flip side, I come to Taylor Swift to sing and clap and be entertained. She doesn't exactly have the best track record for speaking out on political issues (she kinda made her coming out in support of LGBT about herself in a way). I don't want to hear a billionaire talk about politics. I don't go to her to learn about the gaza/palestine situation the same way I don't go to my political youtubers to lay down funky beats.

[@41neve85]

It was pretty clearly Charlie, he just knew nothing

[@jennae926]

that took... a turn

[@TheApolloTaste]

taylor swift saying something about palestine would make a big difference. like how she got a lot of ppl to vote just by one story post like kate said

[@onlyonce4543]

What could she possibly do?! U think her posting abt it will stop the war that's oldee than her grandma? Voting in her home country and a war between two foreign countries r completely different things

[@Stormy_Cloud]

Honestly I believe celebrities need to mind their own business and butt out of Hollywood. Not every single tragedy needs a statement.

[@gorekink]

maybe she supports israel, who knows... i mean that would be better

[@pruesummers7566]

@@onlyonce4543 maybe not stop the war but she could bring awareness and even give support to the Palestinian people like idk with money

[@noypoll]

Exactly, like why do people think celebrities have to be political, that's literally not what they want their career to be for, especially when it's about subjects they don't know enough about- I saw people posting so many false things just because of how easy it is to press "share", I'm glad some celebrities know better. @@Stormy_Cloud

[@azriaann]

wow that end bit is CRAZY. you can like a celebrity but to go as far as to forgive every single negative thing they’ve done/do is INSANITY! you can like taylor swift and at the same time acknowledge that her silence is complicity and her carbon emissions are crazy. im begging these people to open their eyes to the bigger picture

[@cumrizzmeup]

yo idk why everyone's bashing taylor because of the "carbon emissions" bro??? Go check the list she's not even in top 30

[@mevrouwroos]

Cognitive dissonance at its finest

[@azriaann]

@@cumrizzmeup not being in the top 30 is the bare minimum😭

[@am-un6pz]

did you ever take a second to think that they just don’t care about that in general not because it’s taylor doing it lmao

[@DiMiLi9734]

I agree, and the whole thing abt her RENTING her private jet??? How does that justify her private jet issue? You shouldn't have a private jet in the first place(at least not when you are this famous and this active socially)The carbon emissions are still hers even if she rents it to other ppl, she rents it so she could get paid while some anonymous dude uses her jet and produce carbon emission.SHE GETS PAID! She's saving money cause she couldn't afford the jet to just be there and stay there not emitting anything, lol.

[@nc4254]

I looked up a list of celebrities with the highest carbon footprint, from July 2022. Taylor emitted nearly 8.3 tonnes and 2 is Floyd Maywhether with nearly 7.1 tonnes. I tried finding something more recent but couldn’t

[@fatimasiddiqui5182]

I am a swiftie but I do think she should talk about Palestine and support it etc. What Orin said made me upset because in my opinion role models or idols should not be let off the hook for most things that common people wouldn't.

[@samanthaantoinette3739]

being a fans is fine until you turn a blind eye over the fact that your idol use their influence and voice the current issues only for things/at times that are convenient to them (and this applies to all fanbase basically)

[@TeoVallstedt]

No hate l but why do Swiftes know every detail of her life? It goes for everything why make it your personality!

[@mystical-dc9vk]

Because she's leading artist of this decade. Her music has so much of her personal details and her life plus she is an idol for so many and people want to know their idol?

[@jhefferson9048]

@@mystical-dc9vk calling her an idol explains it all. Obsessed

[@Incognition37]

Fr, this level of obsession is only seen in kpop fandoms

[@Suukif]

And they want to argue it isnt cult like

[@Denilsonortiz1989]

Have we watch the same video? 😂, apparently a lot of these swifties gad errors while answering

[@Ionlydoquads]

4:23 I was not prepared for that at all ToT

[@Yeodoongiiie]

it's the way swifties sound like teenagers. not grown people. they are so obsessed it honestly is scary.

[@elizabethrandolph9224]

As a Taylor fan who wishes she would speak out, Orins answer was horrific. I hate that a lot of her fans are like that :(

[@amyfalls]

same !!

[@DGoldy303]

Yeah she should have speak out about the hamas attack on 7/10.

[@tofuandskythebirds6785]

SHE SHOUDVE SPEAKEN ABOUT THE 75 YEARS OF OPPRESION IN PALESTINE THAT IS JUST GETTING WORSE BY EVERY DAY!@@DGoldy303

[@katg5547]

​@@DGoldy303I'd you were a fan you knew that she even attended a pro Palestine event. And she was criticized for that. People these days can't have an opinion, but neither can stay quiet because people are gonna criticize anyway. And an artist is not responsible for their fans political opinions.

[@iwillstilleatyou6892]

Orin is so despicable if he can take about the genocide as if its so small

[@HolyDesolateLord]

Not a genocide

[@That0neSister]

@@HolyDesolateLordit is

[@nopenerp6862]

@@That0neSister How so?

[@joynaaziz4416]

approx 30000 CIVILIANS are dead, most of them being CHILDREN? @@nopenerp6862

[@hayleysemprit25]

def glad he got voted out.

[@lukesroblox]

i’m at 5:58 rn and i feel like john doesn’t hate taylor he just likes her music and doesn’t know a lot about her hahah 😭 - ig i’ll see if he’s the hater..

[@RinnilleLeva]

as a swiftie, i really felt relieved as jon stayed because i feel pressure to know everything about her because that's almost all swifties. i also agree with charlie about the israel gaza war and i feel like he's very decent.

[@oliver5247]

'best lyricism of all time' is crazy

[@bunez69x]

Opinions exist???

[@somfs1459]

​@@bunez69x rhyming car with bar in multiple songs isn't great lyricism

[@juicerslayer]

​@@bunez69xwell her opinion was 💩

[@claudia273]

⁠@@somfs1459theres so much more to lyricism than rhyming 😂 And when you have written over 200 released songs and even more unreleased songs, chances are there are some similar rhymes.

[@beatricevivarelli2211]

That’s because she is hope this helps x

[@incognitocrybaby]

They don’t sound like fans they seem obsessed . 🤷🏽‍♀️

[@JustinBocci]

Yeah cuz Swifties are a cult

[@taylana3331]

@@JustinBoccino we are not, some are just passionate and grew up with her music that is not anything like a cult💀

[@fairy_is_aeri]

@@taylana3331y'all are a cult bffr

[@Waltuhonyoutube]

@@taylana3331”some are just passionate” some of you literally act like your whole purpose in this universe is to bootlick A SINGER and defend them with your life??

[@Angel-.dust.887]

@@fairy_is_aerinah we ain’t, it’s the “OmG tAyLoR iS tHe BeSt I aM gOnNa StAlK hEr”swifties that give us the bad image

[@Macandcheesedragons]

The “so like I was ready for it”

[@mawzpawzz]

i instantly knew dogface was the mole they look so cool, punk lovers can spot eachother ig lmao

[@heliosolum]

it bothers me that they were saying 'taylor is about letting ur voice be heard' and then they were like BuT TaYLoR DoESnT NEeD To SpEAk oN PaLEStINE like u cant have both

[@chroma._.5986]

nothing new. that’s white feminism for you.

[@soy_blug]

BRO FR!!

[@nikieramarriott9928]

Literally, so contradicting

[@kylatay8641]

It’s so hypocritical

[@mark1h2023]

She's not an expert.....she's staying in her lane

[@vaishmads1115]

These Swifties did not pass the vibe check. Charlie, or should I say "Dogface" had a totally valid point. This entire segment video shows how crazy Taylor Swift fans could be and that how strong her influence is. If she could just utter one word about Gaza/Palestine that could really make a difference cuz her entire fandom would swarm to help and fund since "she spoke about it" but she chooses not to. And that's every celeb ftm, Charlie brought it up in this scenario only because the group and the entire setting was conformed to Taylor Swift. Not that they solely wanted to blame Taylor for the whole thing, they were just making a valid point that yes she could speak up but she doesnt!

[@Sukinero]

Question: if someone went by “Daddy” are you calling them Daddy

[@carlton0124]

Her saying one word about it wouldn’t do anything, idk why you look to celebrities for this kind of thing, look to governments and the UN.

[@FiveMissiles]

hamas doesnt want a ceasefire neither does israyel so what she gonna do

[@makesomeoneloveyou]

@@FiveMissilesyou’re wrong. hamas agreed to a ceasefire agreement, so did israel, but then they were forced to back out because israel decided to change almost every detail to basically be a non permanent ceasefire. you can google this.

[@noordurrani678]

!!

[@someonequinof]

I believe celebrity worship to this degree should be classified as a mental illness, bro this is so parasocial and dystopic hearing them speak