Thanks to Curiosity Stream for sponsoring this episode. Go to curiositystream.com/CynicalHistorian and use the code CynicalHistorian for a $14.99 annual subscription. Click "read more" for further info, corrections, and bibliography Check out Lynn Burnett’s public history of racial justice website, make sure to check out the resources tab for tons of material: crossculturalsolidarity.com/ The stuff specifically on the BPP: crossculturalsolidarity.com/black-panther-party-resources/ Thanks for watching! Please consider supporting the channel by buying merch: teespring.com/stores/the-cynical-historian Or by donating to my Patreon: www.patreon.com/CynicalHistorian *[reserved for errata]* Here are some related videos: race riots: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qnLFnHaLatN1nq8 Olympics: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jXmqinmjgJqnb7c US sports protest: kzbin.info/www/bejne/kIuZfWyXorx7j5o *Bibliography* William O'Neil interview: kzbin.info/www/bejne/q4TNipdpatN5a9U, full transcript: digital.wustl.edu/e/eii/eiiweb/one5427.1047.125williamo%27neal.html FBI files on Fred Hampton: vault.fbi.gov/Fred%20Hampton/Fred%20Hampton%20Part%2001%20of%2003/view vault.fbi.gov/Fred%20Hampton/Fred%20Hampton%20Part%2002%20of%2003/view vault.fbi.gov/Fred%20Hampton/fred-hampton-part-03-of-03/view And all of COINTELPRO: vault.fbi.gov/cointel-pro Curtis J. Austin, _Violence in the Making and Unmaking of the Black Panther Party_ (Fayetteville: University of Arkansas Press, 2006). amzn.to/3ffepGj Joshua Bloom and Waldo E. Martin, _Black against Empire: The History and Politics of the Black Panther Party_ (Berkeley: University of California Press, 2013). amzn.to/2SjIxrc David Cunningham, _There’s Something Happening Here: The New Left, the Klan, and FBI Counterintelligence_ (Berkeley: University of California Press, 2004. amzn.to/3hU0iIi Todd Fraley and Elli Lester-Roushanzamir, “Revolutionary Leader or Deviant Thug? A Comparative Analysis of the Chicago Tribune and Chicago Daily Defender’s Reporting on the Death of Fred Hampton,” _Howard Journal of Communications_ 15, iss. 3 (Summer 2004): 147-67. Craig Mcpherson, “You can’t Kill Chairman Fred: Examining the Life and Legacy of a Revolutionary,” _Journal of African American Studies_ 23, Iss. 4 (December 2019): 276-298. Fact checkers: slate.com/culture/2021/02/judas-black-messiah-true-story-fred-hampton-accuracy.html www.smithsonianmag.com/history/true-history-behind-judas-and-black-messiah-180976975/ www.politifact.com/article/2021/apr/14/fact-checking-judas-and-black-messiah/ www.historyvshollywood.com/reelfaces/judas-and-the-black-messiah/
@lordkarasu22632 жыл бұрын
Lol even just mentioning the name Wilson fills him with such hate.
@Pantsinabucket3 жыл бұрын
For people wondering why the Young Patriots in Chicago were obsessed with confederate memorabilia, the Young Patriots were based primarily in Uptown, a poor neighborhood whose population was 80% white people from the south in the mid-60s. After the collapse of this leftist movement, Uptown’s dwindling whites would go on to form the Uptown Rebels, a neo-Confederate gang that became intertwined with the already present web of Puerto Rican and black gangs in the neighborhood. In the 80s, the gang would associate with the wider neo-Nazi movement, suffer a massive decline after federal crackdowns, and became entirely defunct by 1992.
@hoodiegod61153 жыл бұрын
Wow thanks! Im not gonna ask how you know that
@themightyquyn3 жыл бұрын
Good info. I actually live in Uptown. Will have to do more research.
@feelshowdy2 жыл бұрын
When they mentioned at the end that Hampton was just 21 and O'Neal was just 17 (17! a goddamn teenager!!) I was blown away. Throughout the film I thought they had to be late twenties to early thirties. It left me even more shaken about the tense, dangerous environment they were in, and the tragedy of the deaths hit harder knowing the membership was so young.
@gamingfan1973 жыл бұрын
I wonder if there will be movies about more controversial topics like Black Separatism (Black Liberation Army, Republic of New Afrikan and Kawasi Balagoon)
@901Cardinal3 жыл бұрын
I think it would show a more less covered time in American history. People do not realize such movements went on much longer after MLK Jr.’s and Malcom X’s death. It would be very interesting.
@toontrooper41033 жыл бұрын
Aye nice pfp! Hopefully there will be some media about our liberation movement one day ;)
@diablomalevolos10963 жыл бұрын
I would love that also a movie on th3 Young Lord's, Pedro Albizu compos and US destruction and destabilization of Puerto Rico. But the problem is it needs to be from our perspectives not the other way around
@gamingfan1973 жыл бұрын
@@diablomalevolos1096 There are 4 movies about PR (2 fiction and 2 historical) 1. (Fiction) Machetero - a self declared Machetero anarchist goes a one man war on the US for PR independence 2. (Fiction) Millie and the Lords 3. Luisa Capetillo (the most important anarchist in PR history) 4. Revolucion in Infierno - Is a movie about the Ponce massacre
@Pantsinabucket3 жыл бұрын
There is a short and very shitty depiction of them in the very bad movie about Tupac, given his stepfather being Mutulu Shakur and his mother’s connections to the BLA/RNA.
@freshporkbun3 жыл бұрын
i would have really liked this film more if the actors in it were younger. its easy to forget how young the Panthers involved were, and i think thats a large aspect of how horrifying the governments actions were against them.
@danielramsey61413 жыл бұрын
The young will always be killed by the old (and dying) mentalities of those in-charged. And it’s especially these old sentimentalities that destroy ruin the lives of the younger generations.
@missmoanypants3 жыл бұрын
It blew my mind how young Fred and Bill really were when I looked them up after I saw the movie.
@John_Malka-tits2 жыл бұрын
I would have really liked this film if it was just them being murdered. That I would pay to see
@stephengrigg59882 жыл бұрын
@@John_Malka-tits aren't you so edgy and cool
@MLPGamer443 жыл бұрын
Always sobering to remember that a lot of the black Panthers leaders were so young. Like man, I’m 23 so it’s pretty wild to think Hampton was my age.
@brunoactis1104 Жыл бұрын
He was 21.
@erikdaniels0n3 жыл бұрын
I really loved this movie, one of my favorites of the year so far. The inaccuracies you talked about really do suck, but at the same time, the fact that it’s as accurate as it is is amazing
@imsorryyouguys96063 жыл бұрын
Yes, been waiting for this to drop ever since you made that video in the black panthers. Love your work man, keep it up
@MurderousEagle3 жыл бұрын
Interestingly the feminism and anti-poverty stances of the Panthers was a solidification of the concept of intersectionality, a viewpoint King held later in his life that was responsible for much of his personal loss of popularity in the last months of his life.
@dollarwil12343 жыл бұрын
From the Rev. Dr. MLK Jr. through the Rev. Jesse Jackson's Presidential Campaigns to modern times post-Obama, African Americans have had to use "strategic alliances" with others to overcome our weaker economic position, our weaker national political position, and our numerical minority status. We never commonly used any form of the term intersectionality but that's what we were and are forced to be, given our power and numerical minority position within this Democracy. Even during the days of Jesse's Rainbow Coalition, it was understood that working together to achieve a narrow objective was not an endorsement of the entire platform of all parties in the coalition. Today, special interest groups no longer have that level of political maturity.
@Dracon76013 жыл бұрын
@Gruddy4 Jackson It's more he was the easiest to simplify, King was a lot more radical particularly about power. He was of the opinion that love alone is closer to a sickness and that power with love is vital for a human. He was socialist aggressively so, but all that gets watered down today
@traplover63573 жыл бұрын
@Gruddy4 Jackson not really. He was white washed when rarely any school textbooks talks about his socialism advocacy and anti-Vietnam War rhetoric that made people hate MLK.
@farcenter3 жыл бұрын
@@dollarwil1234 I'm curious what you mean, specifically in regards to what "special interest groups"/ tangential movements you are alluding to. cheers
@dollarwil12343 жыл бұрын
@@farcenter I mean any and every special interest group that comes to mind but none more so than any other. Small groups don't form enough strategic alliances because they are overwhelmed by "cancel culture." Any alliance with another group causes both groups to inherit the other group's political baggage. Short-term narrowly focused alliances are possible and effective but too often people can't see the forest for the trees.
@Argos-xb8ek3 жыл бұрын
I wonder how many people that could've changed this world were killed in instances like Fred Hampton and the like.
@ChrisGoldie3 жыл бұрын
Alot.
@bothi003 жыл бұрын
Think of how many Einsteins, Hamptons, Marie-Curies, etc have died in sweatshops, factories and plantations, and that we have deprived the world of because they have to spend their whole lives working there
@ChrisGoldie3 жыл бұрын
@@bothi00 and the fact that America constantly refuses to give african americans reparations because of this is one of the biggest reasons why bp have no trust in america. It bleeds all the way into our mistrust in medicine, food, etc. america refuses to make this situation right. But complains when african americans dont stand on their side
@MrOzzification3 жыл бұрын
Its particularly sad with black thought leaders and revolutionaries. Black people across the world were kept illiterate en mass. Relegated as a global underclass and treated as live stock. Their place in the world dictated to them, by a large campaign that spanned several hundred years. For a handful of individuals to emerge and encourage black people to rethink how they conceptualize themselves. That their identity and place in the world should not be dictated to them but self-determined. That was HUGE at the time. The spark of black consciousness was an absolutely necessary step for black people to start reclaiming their humanity. It was tragic that these revolutionary thinkers were slaughtered, essentially, in their youth. Most of them can be considered the most important black literaries and thought leaders of the 20th century.
@danielramsey61413 жыл бұрын
Too many to count… :(
@thatchtownsend15633 жыл бұрын
The casual “Wilson” drop in Reagan’s name killed me 😂
@warlordofbritannia3 жыл бұрын
It's very interesting on how the narrative of the BPP has changed in just a few years--not that the revisionist, more nuanced viewpoint is yet predominant, but only five or six years ago one hardly heard about these ambiguities That there's a movie in this explicit thread is a tacit sign of at least some progress...
@Spongebrain973 жыл бұрын
Yeah that's a good observation. For years the view was that there were the good civil rights activists like MLK, freedom riders, and students at the lunch sit ins while the Black Panthers were the bad ones who attackes police officers and were too extreme and were distanced by the other groups. I like how in recent years we've been analyzing them through unbiased lenses and seeing them as morally gray.
@forickgrimaldus83013 жыл бұрын
@@Spongebrain97 they are basically the Anti heroes in Comics though some problematic groups did sprang from some of its members like the BLA but good for the BP for trying to control its members and creating outreach programs and advocating for stopping Police violence.
@brenandemossita10003 жыл бұрын
I hate when people compare the black panthers to the KKK the black panthers never have done the things that the KKK has done to black people.
@Mista_Terrific813 жыл бұрын
To me, when people say that garbage I know immediately they didn't do any research or know anything about the black Panter party. They simply watched fox News or heard a far right ignorant and just repeated what was said.
@forickgrimaldus83013 жыл бұрын
Which is a terrible false equivalence, though terroristic groups did exist like the BLA, the Panthers did what they could to actually better communities despite their flaws. Comparing them to the Klan is like comparing the Punisher to the Joker.
@forickgrimaldus83013 жыл бұрын
@@Mista_Terrific81 to be fair panther history is fairly recently being unearthed and remember the FBI basically covered up their positive contributions.
@jmoney89151 Жыл бұрын
Just look at the people doing the narration it explains it all
@Cagon4153 жыл бұрын
The mischaracterization of the Black Panthers is still one of the worst sins of the U.S. Demonizing black Americans for having the audacity to protect themselves from racist protected American institutions is disgusting.
@sebastiangoodbody8219 Жыл бұрын
Sorry did u neglect half of the video which documented the rife internal violent conflicts as well as the open affiliation with authoritarian regimes
@AegonTargaryenthesecond309622 күн бұрын
Bro didint watch the video
@MrDrewlips4 ай бұрын
actually off the top, it is my understanding that Harry Belafonte was the person who produced the cash for Dr. King and the Civil Rights movement.
@johnp.garryiii8435Ай бұрын
A major labor union also delivered cash to MLK.
@Spongebrain973 жыл бұрын
I do like how cinema has gotten away from the viewpoint that the BPP were the "bad ones" in the civil rights movement and has gotten more into the nuance of who they really were which is morally gray
@mediterraneanmint893 жыл бұрын
@@xp8969 agreed based as fuck. When the state is murdering your brothers and sisters, you get some moral leeway
@jaredharmer70473 жыл бұрын
@@jeffbybee5207 based just means he likes their ideology and tactics
@Imanfly3 жыл бұрын
@@jeffbybee5207 "Based" is gen z slang for something that you agree with, or that's really cool, it's kinda like a mix between awesome and cool. Though "based" means that it's usually used for people/actions that go against societal norms/the status quo
@mustafaali3333-q1m3 жыл бұрын
@@xp8969 They were cringe as fuck
@1mnot4rrogant903 жыл бұрын
The BPP was necessary if films even tried now they’d be cancelled most likely
@jtsg4643 жыл бұрын
Excellent review Cypher, enjoyed hearing about the history of the Black Panther's again, and your thoughts on the film. One thing I love about your channel is I can get these great insights on more recent history. Keep up the great work!
@laurahaire3638 Жыл бұрын
I knew the real Roy Mitchell. He served in the Korean War and left as a corporal. Years before he was one of the special agents that caught the suspects in the murders later known as the Mississippi Burnings. He cared for many black men, getting them off the streets and watching out for them. But he bought into what he was being told and what he was being ordered to do. And he felt he was doing his job. He was still riding the high of a young agent that just help solve a historic murders. I met him after his retirement and he told very few about his involvement in the Black Panther. He had a huge scrapbook of photos and news articles. He would talk about the Mississippi case and very little else. He always carried so much guilt and pain. He would talk to me, show me photos and confide in me things he said his wife didn’t even know. Mostly of the amazing young black men he met. How many were like his own kids to him. But I could hear his voice trail off when talking about his part in it. And he would ask me to pour him another scotch. His guilt and anger that he self medicated cost him his family. I just wanted people to know that he didn’t go on to live happily ever after. Riding the wave of his actions.
@SeanRCope3 жыл бұрын
Ironically I was one of those kids who partook in the free breakfasts in Oakland.
@jurtra90903 жыл бұрын
i want to see Candace Owens reacting to this movie btw glad seeing W'Kabi redeems himself after helping Killmonger
@izmcgee613 жыл бұрын
I didn't know I wanted this until i read this hahaha
@iam4mark8523 жыл бұрын
and after escaping the Neighborhood in Get Out
@oivi3iv6353 жыл бұрын
Tbf, I don't think that Fred Hampton would of hated Killmonger's overall goal.
@traplover63573 жыл бұрын
@@oivi3iv635 eh, Killmonger didn't have class analysis built into his criticisms unlike Fred Hampton's advocacy for socialism.
@forickgrimaldus83013 жыл бұрын
Happy Wakanda noises
@accent16663 жыл бұрын
you know what? i very much like this video and how it balances out between the COINTELPRO and the BPP, despite its issues And just like Cynical, feels more neutral and organic to accept its thanks to that im always lucid when Cynical is covering a subject, to learn better. Keep up with the awesome videos TCH
@MScoachDANI3 жыл бұрын
I never knew I loved history so much !!! Thank you for awakening this in me ❤️
@dollarwil12343 жыл бұрын
03:46 Black Nationalism and Black Separatism are competing philosophies. The Nation of Islam came on the scene as a Black Separatist group. The Honorable Elijah Muhammed wanted Black people or his group to be annexed from the USA, similar to how Native Americans had land set aside for them. Blacks that fight for equality within the system while simultaneously fighting for the right to not be assimilated are Black Nationalists. (Assimilation versus integration versus segregation, and pluralism must be understood before really understanding Nationalism from the point of view of an ethnic minority.) In the USA, Black Nationalists regard their citizenship rights as unalienable (as it is meant in the US Declaration of Independence) and equal to all others, especially White Men. Some Black Nationalists have a global perspective and identify with their genetic geographic origin, Africa. This group is called Pan Africans. All Black Pan Africans are Black Nationalists but not all Black Nationalists are Pan Africanists, but neither are Separatists and neither embrace assimilation. Any of the philosophies can embrace either violence or nonviolence as a strategy, but none embrace nonviolence as a moral absolute. The Nation of Islam, the primary Black Separatist group, originally prohibited its members from voting in elections, running for elected office, and enlisting in the military. These are key Separatism traits. Jesse Jackson and Martin Luther King Jr were Black Nationalists. Both fought for equality within the system. Unfortunately, Dr. MLK, Jr was rebranded as an assimilationist. His fight was for equal access to public accommodation. An assimilationist would argue against Blacks maintaining race consciousness and against Blacks being apart from Whites physically, psychologically, or culturally, ideas which the Rev Dr. MLK Jr. never promoted. Now, I'll continue watching the video.
@dollarwil12343 жыл бұрын
@@itsanit123 You conflated my description of an assimilationist and misrepresented my definition of a Black Nationalist. The "not apart from" line goes with assimilationists. Black Nationalists are neither assimilationists, segregationists, nor separatists. Read it again. It seems you have your own opinion. which is your right. Just don't ascribe it to me.
@dollarwil12343 жыл бұрын
@@itsanit123 I think I see where the confusion exists. I was listing the values or mindset of an assimilationist. Apparently, I didn't make that clear.
@GormTheElder3 жыл бұрын
@@itsanit123 "segregation" wasn't just being physically apart. If only. Segregation was sun-down jurisdictions. Segregation was Klan raids. Segregation was economic and political inequality. Segregation was ghettos and bantustans. It is either evil or delusional to compare black people's desire to have a homeland for themselves to actual segregation that included all of those things. You sound like a nazi, talking like that
@dollarwil12343 жыл бұрын
@@GormTheElder I think where people get tripped up is the area of choice versus force. To some degree, social or self segregation among same kind is normal human behavior. Likes attract. However, the use of law to force segregation and then to force desegregation and assimilation are all problematic. There is a middle ground where choice is respected with little or less legal repression. We forget that Brown versus The Board of Education was initially about equal resource distribution. We ended up in a different place by concentrating on moving people instead of moving money. Culture and commerce was driving people to integration anyway. (Selective Integration is the preferred choice variant.) EEOC laws would have quickened the pace, too. However, forced bussing and forced integration, which is actually assimilation, IMHO, put us on the path of socially reengineering whole groups of people for generations....and we Black Nationals and Pan Africans remain pissed about it. It turns out that Blacks are considered inherently unequal whether we are separate or not.....I'd rather we had "our" culture. Maybe we paid too much for what we got. Sometimes I wonder.
@shonenjumper930393 жыл бұрын
MLK advocated for interracial marriage and bussing. Clear examples of at least integration, if not assimilation. I'm not sure which Martin Luther King you're referring to, but it doesn't seem to be the one from history.
@sabineb.56162 жыл бұрын
Cynical Historian, being a movie and a history buff, I love your channel, and I have binge-watched quite few episodes. "Judas And The Black Messiah" is on my watchlist now! Thank you for the lession in black history!! I watched your assessment of "Hotel Rwanda" recently. This is a movie I have avoided so far, because I had misgivings about it's historical accuracy. I have to say that I am quite willing to accept a certain amount of historical incorrectness if the movie is really good. Although I know perfectly well that Salieri did not kill Mozart, "Amadeus" is nevertheless a great movie. And Charles Laughton is a wonderfully evil Captain Bligh, although the real captain of the Bounty had a very different personality, and the real Fletcher Christian was certainly no Clark Gable but a bow legged 20-something who tended to sweat heavily. However, if I watch a more recent movie about a subject which is still important for us today, I find it very unnerving and regrettable if it has very little or nothing to do with real events. And it is terrible if real people get tarnished by a popular movie. Have you ever looked into the Denzil-Washington vehicle "The Hurricane"? I love Denzil Washington, and I also liked "The Hurricane" when I watched it for the first time, although the white-savior motive was a bit too pronounced for my taste. But the movie gave me a fuzzy warm feeling when I learned that it was based on a real story. However, when I started to research the subject I was shocked to discover that the movie had very little to do with reality, and that Rubin "Hurricane" Carter was a has-been boxer and a seriously bad lot who told a lot of lies about his life. But it got worse: the policemen who investigated the murder which they suspected was committed by Carter, were not at all evil and corrupt, and they did not do all the reprehensible stuff we see them doing in the movie - and there is even the distinct possibility that they were not even wrong. Carter may have been at least actively involved in the crime. This raises the question if those who make a movie based on a true story should be aware that they have a certain responsibility to get at least the basic facts right! I was very disappointed when I discovered an interview with Denzil Washington where he stated that he could not care less if the movie got the facts right. Now, Denzil may have been just a bit flippant, and when The Hurricane was made, he was not yet in the envious position of having so many role offers that he could afford to turn down such a juicy part. Anyway, I feel strongly that movie makers should strive for as much historical accuracy as possible. If they want to deviate from the known facts they should be open about it and announce that they have been inspired by historical events but chose to deviate from what really happened. And it would actually help to use fictive names for their characters. But oh well, this problem is centuries old. There is a great playwright whose works we all know well. He wrote a wonderful play, called "Richard III", and he created the perfect stage villain. All great stage actors want to play Richard at least once, and they could not care less if Richard was really a villain or a misunderstood king who was loved by his subjects during his lifetime, but who became the victim of a vicious Tudor propaganda campaign after he had died bravely on the battle field. Heck, we are not even completely sure if we know the real name of that great playwright - but his plays and sonetts are so great that for most of his audience it does not matter a great deal 😉 Interesting tidbit: Bob Dylan wrote the well known song "Like A Hurricane" about Carter - but when he eventually learned more about the case, he never performed the song again!
@PunkNStein3 жыл бұрын
You deserve more subscribers and will get what you earned soon I hope
@theshenpartei3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for covering this movie
@USSChicago-pl2fq3 жыл бұрын
I wonder what the bad comments will look like
@eldorados_lost_searcher3 жыл бұрын
Full of facts, nuance, and not at all painting with broad brushes, I'm sure.
@forickgrimaldus83013 жыл бұрын
The Black Panthers were run By Killmonger to collect the Infinity Stones.
@theshenpartei3 жыл бұрын
@@forickgrimaldus8301 Ok that was funny
@jonaspfister6823 жыл бұрын
I‘d love to see what you think of the movie "Das weisse Band". It doesn‘t exactly fit into "Based on a true Story", because it isn‘t. But nonetheless, it could be interesting.
@Pa_blito3 жыл бұрын
i was waiting so much for this!!! thanks man!!
@wmdkitty3 жыл бұрын
UP THE PANTHERS! That's the kind of activism we need!
@hoochangyi7452 жыл бұрын
When Hampton says 'Tricky dicky nixon' the movie seems to be quoting him when he is talking at a trial. it can be found here kzbin.info/www/bejne/nHu2oo2oi893mtU I don't know when this speech was, but it seems that the movie was trying to quote Hampton directly.
@TheHi-FiHour3 жыл бұрын
Please tell you'll consider doing a review of The 24th. I'll throw money at you for this happen if possible.
@CynicalHistorian3 жыл бұрын
no need to do that. I already am very interested in doing so, since it will be mentioned in my dissertation. But researching it any further then I currently have would interfere schedule. I'll be back on the border war in January. Currently focused on southern New Mexico for the rest of the semester
@TheHi-FiHour3 жыл бұрын
@@CynicalHistorian Awesome!!! Can't wait to see it once it's done.
@thejokersonyou3 жыл бұрын
Charles Xavier and Erik Magnus Lensherr
@garrick133 жыл бұрын
Huge fan. Keep up the great work!
@robbytrammell69933 жыл бұрын
I am open to being wrong on this but I would have liked if you mentioned Newton’s side of the murder case, if you read his book Revolutionary Suicide he tells the story from his perspective. He says the cops pulled him over and made him get out, he brought his law book out with him as he usually did with these types of stops, and the officer took him behind the second cop car, not the car of the cop who pulled him over and who Newton was accused of murdering, and the cop punched Newton in the face and then shot him in the stomach, Huey was in and out of consciousness and could not recall what happened but reading further into his book about the trial it seems apparent he did not do it as the prosecution played very dirty and even brought in a fake witness, a bus driver who claimed to have seen it but in later retrials was found to have been 2 miles away at the time of the incident. Not to mention his entire time in the hospital cops were tormenting him, not letting him sleep, gave him nerve damage from how tight the handcuffs were, beat him more while he was shackled to the bed, and refused to let black nurses care for him
@someindividual88722 жыл бұрын
It's very very interesting watching their history in retrospect and reflection of current events and politics
@SunflowerSocialist Жыл бұрын
Finally got around to watching this movie, highly recommend it. As a leftist it’s easy for me to want to paint the panthers through rose tinted glasses, but this film did a wonderful job portraying them fairly. The one thing that made me turn in my seat when I watched it was, just as you pointed out, the error about Nixon being president in 1968
@danielnguyen37873 жыл бұрын
4:03 REAAAAGAAANNN!!!
@theshenpartei3 жыл бұрын
Reagan is just awful
@Pantsinabucket3 жыл бұрын
While I get it was used for repression, Reagan is still speaking facts. Nobody should need a loaded gun on them in public in a city/town, police included.
@kmaher14243 жыл бұрын
@@Pantsinabucket Yes. But tell that to current Open Carry advocates. Most of whom worship Saint Ronnie...
@forickgrimaldus83013 жыл бұрын
@@Pantsinabucket its not that Ragan was completely incorrect but it also makes him hypocritical when he supports open carry later.
@CosmoShidan3 жыл бұрын
@@Pantsinabucket Eh, didn't ya hear Cyph shout "WILSOOON" in the video? It means he's no different from a certain lost causer.
@ECPolitics3 жыл бұрын
You make great videos here, obviously KZbin (whether by algorithm or hand) doesn't promote your channel like it once did, but keep up the good work.
@Ded2DjeD2 жыл бұрын
Your commitment to accuracy is much appreciated! Things happening right now would make a lot more sense instead of these mass media narratives demonizing the victims and gaslighting Americans
@Dazzlin8262 жыл бұрын
After watching this insightful review, I am so going to watch the movie! I hope Daniel gets an Oscar! This just shows how we don't have enough young black actors, we couldn't even get the right age actor to play the role.
@maeghtmaxime3 жыл бұрын
Do you consider doing a review of Malcolm X 1992 ?
@historycritic41842 жыл бұрын
I've heard two different claims about J. Edgar Hoover talking about Roy Mitchell's daughter, can someone provide me a source if this scene really did occur or didn't?
@Nolanvoidmusic3 жыл бұрын
Another insightful video thank you for your work C H
@ajamoore65403 жыл бұрын
It’s fascinating how these events so strongly effect the black community even to this day. Ik it wasn’t very long ago, but the very apparent and direct correlation this has to gang violence is stark. Thank you for covering this! Appreciate your work!
@quikskoprbro9682 жыл бұрын
This has absolutely nothing to do with gang violence.
@leothelion2593 Жыл бұрын
Them offering him a business is supposed to illustrate the betrayal. Making him like Judas who sold out the messiah for silver. It’s a movie, that’s a creative liberty
@DarthAsthmatic3 жыл бұрын
Dammit, Ronald WIIIILLLLLLLSSOOOOOOOOONNNNN!!! Reagan finds another way to be terrible.
@MrZauberelefant3 жыл бұрын
"Their antagonism was symbiotic" - Cypher, you're looking for "dialectic".
@banalMinuta3 жыл бұрын
Been waiting since I saw this month's ago, thank you
@dinotsar63962 жыл бұрын
The promo made me think that a video from you on the subject of Malcom X could be interesting. He is a glorified figure, yet some people (myself included) actually don’t know too much about what he believed. Also, may I ask if you would consider Malcom X a black supremacist? I remember once hearing someone claim that. I know he was a black separatist and an influential figure with black power, but I don’t know enough about him to be sure if he believed blacks were superior to whites.
@CarmellaMulroy Жыл бұрын
Malcom X is an amazing movie. But I don't care for the dedication Islam. I know before they were enslaved in the USA many were muslim but depending on 'God' is not a great idea
@Rascilon253 жыл бұрын
My favorite Reagan quote at 8:20
@grimmentry51153 жыл бұрын
Man I really appreciate your videos bro, keep up the good work.
@rogerduke53412 жыл бұрын
I would love to know where you got the footage of Reagan at time stamp 7:53
@johncarroll772 Жыл бұрын
I remember growing up in my neighbourhood and the Black Panthers were always fighting the Pink Panthers
@vavin69273 жыл бұрын
Do you have a source or know anything about Earl Warrens denouncing of Reagan’s racial politics? (I couldn’t find anything online about it)
@CynicalHistorian3 жыл бұрын
I read about it in Daniel Lucks, _Reconsidering Reagan: Racism, Republicans, and the Road to Trump_ (Boston: Beacon Press, 2021), audiobook. amzn.to/3wHugnp
@vavin69273 жыл бұрын
@@CynicalHistorian thanks
@diablomalevolos10963 жыл бұрын
I want and need a young lord's movie. Or a movie on Pedro Albizu Compos. A hero to many killed by the US
@GargamelGold3 жыл бұрын
Cypher, I thought you already did a video on this movie before this.
@newpeupyoass3 жыл бұрын
Reagan confirmed Fudd.
@matthewmorris412 жыл бұрын
sorry I had a fight in the middle of your black panther party
@ORCMASTERSLAM3 жыл бұрын
Can anyone tell me/find a source of how the black panther party felt about interracial dating or marriage? Just for the record I’m mixed (black/white) I was at a restaurant a few years back and there was a black man wearing panther shirt across from him was his white wife and mixed daughter. I thought it was a funny F you but then I was thinking would the painters be cool with that, thinking some black revolution groups feel a type way about it.
@toontrooper41033 жыл бұрын
Lol I love the Panthers but I could tell the FBI informant was false. The FBI doesn't seem like they'd be so ignorant as to have just one informant member outright kill another and then have them tell other members. On the flip side I would expect a Panther to act so brash though because the Panthers weren't as organized and disciplined as the FBI.
@forickgrimaldus83013 жыл бұрын
Jesus not even the Imperium is that incompetent.
@LeavanDragon3 жыл бұрын
@@forickgrimaldus8301 Ehhh I mean the imperium has made some comparably screw ups
@sincityquinn2 жыл бұрын
Another key reason why the Panthers died was Nixon and his War on Drugs. He was directing targeting the Black Panthers and Hippies.
@dahomieMays3 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@modesskiy7743 жыл бұрын
Great video! Btw whats the music here? It’s awesome!
@CynicalHistorian3 жыл бұрын
generic "1960s rock" from Epidemic Sound
@MrRjh633 жыл бұрын
I wonder if you will review Spike Lees Panther as well
@CaligraphiVision2 жыл бұрын
Great video
@davidhoj3 жыл бұрын
Panther Power did a ton for the community back in the day
@lordkarasu22632 жыл бұрын
Lol even just mentioning the name Wilson fills him with such hate.
@naftalibendavid3 жыл бұрын
Nicely done.
@daemonspudguy3 жыл бұрын
I still want King Richard I, what kind of cat is he?
@CynicalHistorian3 жыл бұрын
Dunno
@daemonspudguy3 жыл бұрын
@@CynicalHistorian so his breed is "cat".
@MrZauberelefant3 жыл бұрын
@@CynicalHistorian Plantagenet, obviously.
@seanlanglois8620 Жыл бұрын
I grew up in the projects and was treated like an outsider because I was white.when Fred Hampton said racism is something capitalism use to keep the poor down I felt that.
@darienreaper3 жыл бұрын
Dope video Love ya man
@Skatepunklefty3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much means a lot
@akikoozeki31143 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video on the Nation of Islam?
@theshenpartei3 жыл бұрын
That could be good and he could do it like with the black panthers video in the lead up to this video
@kylez80103 жыл бұрын
I like that clip of the white cop standing there letting the black radical say what he pleased.
@jurtra90903 жыл бұрын
i hope you want to review "Malcolm X" movie in the future
@theshenpartei3 жыл бұрын
Same here and do a video on the Nation of Islam video to and do it separately like he did the black panthers
@zanemckinney76773 жыл бұрын
What's the music in the into and outro?
@CynicalHistorian3 жыл бұрын
basic "1960s rock" from Epidemic Sound
@zanemckinney76773 жыл бұрын
@@CynicalHistorian thx bro u a real one
@thechi28483 жыл бұрын
Daniel Kaluula honestly ruined the movie, he talked to fast and needed subtitles to see what he said. Daniel looked nothing like fred, I hate they used a fake name for a real organization. The movie was ok, I just wish someone else was casted as Fred Hampton.
@williamcainevoiceacting2 жыл бұрын
Can we please get "All The Way", "Nixon", and "Malcolm X" reviews please 🥺
@CynicalHistorian2 жыл бұрын
I've done all the way
@williamcainevoiceacting2 жыл бұрын
@@CynicalHistorian oh awesome! I'm about to check that out. Any word on the other two?
@CynicalHistorian2 жыл бұрын
@@williamcainevoiceacting nothing planned
@williamcainevoiceacting2 жыл бұрын
@@CynicalHistorian I'll keep my fingers crossed
@eacalvert3 жыл бұрын
I see his lordship graced is with presence. So kind of Him
@nomduclavier9 ай бұрын
I mean I know you can't cover every aspect and nuance of attitudes towards women across every chapter but I'm side-eyeing that section
@gepflegtePCSpieleKultur3 жыл бұрын
Thank you... good points... PBS The Black Panthers: Vanguard of the Revolution is also a good watch cheers
@kensvideos13 жыл бұрын
Great Work.
@TheAustinWoolShow3 жыл бұрын
The Black Panther turns startled! Dynomite!
@MrLisso983 жыл бұрын
Feeding the algorithm.
@smnkhusahuakhuhenikfamnank154419 күн бұрын
I agree we should seek these organizations out and add thete philosophy into r life's daily.
@renaigh3 жыл бұрын
so this is what it's Based on
@DavesView3 жыл бұрын
5:33 an “Anti-Lynching” mandate
@ger59563 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget to like and comment to appease the almighty algorithm 😁❤️👍🏼
@MR-fp5tx2 жыл бұрын
please do a video on the movie chicago 7!
@leonardkrol44813 жыл бұрын
I met members of the Hampton family. They warned Fred that politics would be rough. He should have listened to them
@scvboy13 жыл бұрын
Background song
@rajugentes5605 Жыл бұрын
How dare you call yourself MESSIAH...
@229masterchief3 жыл бұрын
Pretty sad this movie kinda bombed
@PunkNStein3 жыл бұрын
How loud is the voice of the unheard have to be before people finally start listening
@jamesposlon13843 жыл бұрын
Great video. Just on the Newton's alleged shooting however I think it would have been good for you to point out the unreliability of the witness testimony and all the shenanigans that happened during his trial
@jamesposlon13843 жыл бұрын
Maybe it goes without saying, but from what I've read the trail of the shooting of the police officer specifically was not a fair one
@CynicalHistorian3 жыл бұрын
Hence why i emphasize the ambiguity of the situation. Ultimately the outside witness is always more believable than a defendant, but you get to choose what you believe. Discounting what the witness believed though, that's intolerably fascist
@jamesposlon13843 жыл бұрын
@@CynicalHistorian I don't agree with what you're saying but okay
@sjbrooksy453 жыл бұрын
Good movie
@Spiral.Dynamics3 жыл бұрын
Off topic. I just went on a Haunted tour in Santa Fe and the guide made a huge deal about the Native Americans keeping slaves and their supposed rampant cannibalism. 🙄
@yotubeification3 жыл бұрын
I dunno about that far west. But many tribes who were resettled to Oklahoma, in particular the Cherokee, did in fact enslave people.
@debrachambers13043 жыл бұрын
I wonder how much money was made selling these guys berets and jackets
@sylviamontaez38893 жыл бұрын
to be honest ive rather mixed feelings about the Black Panthers. their community programs were good, yet their communist ties arent exactly great.
@danielramsey61413 жыл бұрын
No matter how you slice it. A group of people is still a group of people with no real power. So making allies in other parts of the world made for best way of Growing potential resources. Had the FBI been as sluggish as they were on the Neo-Nazis and the KKK (during the resurgence). The black panther party would have flourished into today. The Nation of Islam is still around, but that’s only because they had to change leadership and shift away from their Old Toxic curriculums. So it’s not only Ironic how fast the FBI attacked the Black Panthers, but went through the troubles of causing so much sabotaging through forgery of letters, attacking members, Putting spies among their ranks, and introducing drugs into their communities that it dismantled them. It goes to show that they served the White Agenda, especially with a bastard like J. Edgar Hoover leading the operation.
@jett_power2 жыл бұрын
@@danielramsey6141 The nation of Islam still has toxic curriculums: the group supported African dictators such as Muammar Gaddafi and when Libya descend into civil war in 2011 Louis Farrakhan: the groups leader said that UFOs would come as punishment for the US supporting Libyan rebels and said "The stupid mistake that we make is to think that the president is the supreme power. Never was. Money is the power in America. … All of you know what I’m talking about, Zionist control of the government of the United States of America." and when Gaddafi was killed he called Obama's advisors wicked demons and also he supports Trump. Source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Farrakhan