Judge weighs in after Gerald Butts' testimony at justice committee

[@steveproulx9456]

She's brilliant. Thank you

[@teutonic2020]

Great guest. Very articulate. This is a crisis.

[@glennpritchard274]

Could you imagine if Butts went before Judge Turpel-Lafond?? "Son, you smoking them funny cigarette's"?

[@TheBearDenPhotography]

Trudeau, Butts and Wernick are Canada's version of the Three Stooges! It's time to clean house and put a real leader in office.

[@stevet5379]

That's quite an insult to the 3 Stooges..lol.

[@mikeoldman]

Three Stooges made people laugh. This three make people cry

[@stevet5379]

@@mikeoldman As Canadians we need to be outraged by this... completely and fully outraged. It's high time to flood our MP's phones, emails etc with demands for justice!

[@brettb9194]

Morneau has been very quiet, nodding vigorously with little sideways glances at his puppet - Finance was the first one to open up on Jody Wilson-Raybould.

[@stevet5379]

@@brettb9194 Exactly.. We need a full legal investigative inquiry into this pile of crap. This partisan bulls**t needs to be put aside and a real legitimate investigation needs to be done!!

[@normangilbert1236]

Well said Judge, right on the money .

[@Metoo1111]

The Lieberals have become a circus. An embarrassment to all of Canada.

[@frankdiscussion2069]

Everything Butts said was NOT UNDER OATH. He is a liar.

[@MichaelHadac]

I guess Money talks, bullshit walks.. I Wonder, if he got a "Response Bonus" for trying to cover up JT..?

[@audsunheatpumpgroup9812]

Funny how at the Huawei arrest case, the Trudeau office keep telling the chinese govt, that they will not interfere, as it is a criminal case, and the court of law is independent from political interference. Meaning they will not call, text, meet up or pressure the AG or the prosecution office to interfere with their decision. Now on this SNC case, which is also a criminal case, the PM and his crews turn 180 degrees, and say meetings and phone calls and text message to the Attorny General are totally ok.

[@truthbombs-ii7ke]

Yes, independent inquiry should be done absolutely, by RCMP. Right now!!!

[@OVI-Wan-Kenobi-8]

The RCMP or too busy serving as bellhops for illegal border crossers.

[@TGIR.]

It's good to hear comments from the legal community, especially from someone of this stature. Ms Turpel-Lafond's perspective is very informative and helpful.

[@orianafisher3960]

Jody needs to come back .. and this guest judge aced it! We need an independent inquiry. Presently laced with liberal poison.

[@DWinegarden2]

oriana fisher this ex-judge is just trying to extend this story in the media for maximum effect. There will be no inquiry, there was no law broken, except maybe by JWR refusing to stay fast to the presumption of innocence in the Charter.

[@JohnGo528]

This judge so nailed it. I'm mentally disabled and came to all the same conclusions - got the comments on other channels (that I follow) to prove it. This fake committee is a total fraud - = jurey rigging for sure. On the other hand, Trudeau's surprise at Jody's uncooperative stance is believable - she intervened in that case by her public disapproval statement about Boushie v. Stanley - the scales of justice must remain deaf dumb and blind, but Jody along with our PM sure, were, not. Their negative comments on the exoneration of Mr Stanley who shot and killed Colten Bushie (Indian) by accident is Sedition by our PM and Former AG. They both broke their oaths. Her as a member of the B.A.R. and both as our highest ministers in parliament. So, our poor Priminister has a good reason to be baffled. Trudeau - Oh My Left Sock!Jody Bill C-16 Raybould isn't doing what she usually does? We need to keep dividing Canadians and stirring the pot! I need everyone's help to destroy this country so I can become king of the world!

[@audsunheatpumpgroup9812]

@@DWinegarden2 What are you talking about, she is refering to Wernicks and Butts's testimony, where they said they want to bring in other law experts to JWR, so she can review the SNC case again, because DPA is a new law and she needs help in understanding it. That's not the media, that's what they said. Now imagine telling the the AG, who is the expert in law, holds one of the highest position in law and establish new laws all the time, they are telling her that she need help in understanding a new law(DPA). That's like telling Messi or Ronaldo they need opinon of another football player to teach they how to play football. It's very insulting. They can't convince anyone by saying they don't have a agenda and all intentions was good, no one is going buy that.

[@DWinegarden2]

David Huang if she was part of the Liberal team she would have never said anything to the media. They were just talking with her, she didn’t even change her decision. That’s what happens inside a political party, you have extensive discussions while you make your decision and then you keep that confidential and the position you made is what goes public. It’s called cabinet confidentiality! Trudeau is getting handed his ass for sure. But this kind of backstabbing could only happen from someone you trusted implicitly. Clearly, JWR has a secret agenda. Watch and see.

[@audsunheatpumpgroup9812]

​@@DWinegarden2 So PM and his crew wants to pressure the AG into stopping criminal charges and prosecutions on a criminal case to SNC, the AG did not cave in and disagree, then right after this she got demoted, and you expect her to remain slient? If she didn't make this public, the new AG the prime minister appointed could easily overturn the criminal charges and direct the office to give DPA to SNC without anyone giving a care, because no one knows about the scandle if she remained quiet. Now tell me, if no one make this public, the corporation would secretly escape criminal trial and just pay a fine to the government. All the evidents about the case would be lock down, and that is not justice.

[@paulwesley3222]

This was excellent - well thought our reasoning.

[@mjak1010]

Simple Bribery is SNC best action. They are good at it.

[@johnway9853]

The whole series of interviews with the Judge have been outstanding. She needs to be required watching for all Canadians. Thank you so much for your insights.

[@emaier1000]

Thank You Judge for helping us understand, we must never challenge the Rule Of Law, Canada will lose our Free Speech Country and become a country ruled by Dictatorship. We must Stand on Guard for Thee.

[@susanwilson2297]

Yes; fully agree!

[@PaulaJoW]

This is spot-on! Thank you for your continued analysis on this issue.

[@LC-ki5eh]

Informative and intelligent interview. Thank you from the bottom of my Metis Canadian heart.

[@ryanm7263]

The most galling part of this for me was how Jody Wilson-Raybould was prevented from speaking about anything after the shuffle, but Butts was free to speak about it as much or as little as he liked. The committee treated him like a pal, lobbing softballs at him and giving him ample time to run his spin job. Trudeau's government is trying to weasel out of accountability. We need the independent probe. Now.

[@Marlene837]

Can Canadians sue the Liberal Party under civil proceedings for interfering with the AG?

[@DWinegarden2]

Marlene Westfall - No! They didn’t pressure the AG, they pressured the Minister of Justice. Which is fair play because she was a member of their party, until she stabbed them in the back using cabinet privileged communications.

[@GENERALWACKASS]

Marlene Westfall happened underthe previous trudo libral government

[@richardbelisle8541]

@@DWinegarden2 This is planet Earth, not your imagination. Please keep this in mind before commenting, otherwise you look stupid.

[@DWinegarden2]

Richard Belisle she broke party confidentiality, she’s a rat and you are just believing all the lies she told. She twisted the poor me angle and every stupid person in Canada is buying it. Wake up!

[@jonkeating321]

1963 Stratocaster lol

[@kenvandeburgt1232]

Canada's government has already caused the flight of capital because of its policies that are anti-pipeline ... anti- oil ... anti-business. Now we have the problem of the business area not being a level playing field. How can a company expect to bid on contracts where SNC is involved and expect a fair outcome? 9000 jobs more important than maintaining the law? I think not. It might work in the short term but in the long term it means no one follows the law and that means everyone's job is at risk.

[@77142957]

The 9000 jobs line is bullshit. Most of those would have a new job in days, the work still gets done.

[@kenvandeburgt1232]

@@77142957 Truth.

[@binloveds]

Yes. I feel there a many good law abiding small business owners in Canada who could create many great jobs if given an even playing field.

[@debcarr6881]

Excellent overview madame Judge for your clear overview on this case.

[@Viper6-MotoVlogger]

Very smart judge!

[@DWinegarden2]

Viper6 she’s not a judge anymore she stepped down when Justin Trudeau refused to put her on the Supreme Court of Canada last summer.

[@Viper6-MotoVlogger]

1963 Stratocaster I wonder why JT didn’t want her there 🤔

[@DWinegarden2]

Viper6 there were some problems she was having in her career and in her personal life. She has created a persona of not being a team player. Although very smart she can’t be trusted. Just like JWR who she had coached early on to take on Trudeau.

[@Viper6-MotoVlogger]

1963 Stratocaster interesting 👍

[@lestermagnuson939]

@@DWinegarden2 save it

[@margyrowland]

The Judge is amazing. Love from Australia 🇦🇺

[@johndoe-to6xm]

Canadians, if we want to save the rule of law and it fundamental basic tenet of equality before the bench, we need a full gloves of inquiry coupled with a full RCMP investigation. Butts and Trudeau are playing games to keep this situation in the world of the Parliamentary Ethics Board, and not let blow into the criminal world of the RCMP.

[@franciscosanchezpascua5030]

Hey Canadians, now you do not have he moral authority to question the corruptions and the throwing under the bus of the rule of law of other countries. You just joined their circus.

[@johndoe-to6xm]

@@franciscosanchezpascua5030 so sad but so true.

[@angelsan1982]

Francisco Sanchez Pascua exactly perfectly said .

[@neildbarker]

I appreciate the interviews you are doing with Judge Mary Ellen Turpel-Lafond. She presents areas of this issue that some of us are not familiar with. Much better than political "strategists" or former deputy PMs. Thank you.

[@frankm3214]

This will forever be known as, the Butts smear job.

[@jeffzimmer2433]

The Trudeau - Butts Probe*

[@marvinm.messier1120]

LOL - a pair of assholes

[@thestratford51]

Thank you very much for this excellent analysis, @cpac and @Mary Ellen Turpel-Lafond ! : )

[@rono108]

Thank you CPAC, and moreover, Judge Turpel-Lafond for this informative dialogue on a troubling situation.

[@mrgarner4796]

Thank you for speaking and supporting truth.

[@bigrickshaberdashery2759]

wow, class act. thank you very much for your honesty and integrity

[@estherfrancis1783]

Clear and logical analysis by this judge. She should be on the Justice Committee. It would be game over.

[@freddyfriesen]

An intelligent conversation. How refreshing!

[@glennpritchard274]

Hey Butts, can't snake your way out of this one you goof.

[@marvinm.messier1120]

He's a slithery, slimy one.

[@lianeboeckx3700]

Likely consulting with the other 39 "security snake people" on vacay with Trudeau in Florida. . . publish their names ASAP

[@galaxydiscounters3344]

another strong smart principled woman! telling us the truth thank you madam. please continue to give your perspective! Marry you rock!

[@youngercga1968]

Many thanks for having this former judge give her opinion!

[@twobigeyes5541]

I have watched a few of these interviews with Judge Mary Ellen Turpel-Lafond and she appears to be one of the most unbiased objective legal eyes that has been looking at this and it appears to be very cut and dried, that this thing is far from over. Great Information!!!

[@privateerinvestor2773]

Thank you for this. This is exactly the person I wanted to hear. I value her opinion.

[@MrStarman1978]

Mary Ellen, you should run for office ma”am! You have my vote!

[@christophertame8991]

M ET L really lays this out well and I came away with a much better understanding. Thank you

[@Gizzard4400]

Smart lady

[@bobduder8367]

this is a person, a judge, who puts it all together and explains it in a simple but understandable way.

[@Tazzbird]

Jobs, jobs, jobs. Yet the PMO didn't get an independant opinion if in fact any SNC Lavalin jobs would be lost if found guilty. PMO took the word of SNC that jobs would be lost. Even if SNC jobs would be lost these jobs would be filled by workers from uncorrupt companies. Also DPA's are regarded as the cost of doing business, no deterent to future corruption and bribes.

[@jeanarnold8255]

yes, jobs could go to other Canadian engineering companies

[@katbarber7196]

Great video thank you .

[@trevorhofmann1562]

Your program, and particularly the commentary from Judge Mary Ellen Turpel-Lafond, is the most useful coverage of the SNC/LIB cover-up scandal I've seen so far... and like so many other concerned Canadians I've seen a lot of coverage from all of our otherwise biased Canadian media. Thanks for adding clarity to this issue...

[@sheilarunzer6432]

I don't understand why this very astute judge as well as other judges across the land are not all sending official letters of concern to the PMO, individually or in concert with each other. (much like the 5 former AG's have done). Do they l feel strongly enough about the rule of law to take some action? What actions are possible by those who are hired to up hold the law? What kind of campaign would it take to force a public inquiry and remove the power to oversee this scandal out of the hands of the Majority Liberal government being investigated? How can a majority government effectively investigate itself and the outcome be seen as legitimate?

[@Grantorius]

Stellar analysis!!!!!!!!!!!

[@ProfessorJamesJC]

"This isn't about looking at the role of the Attorney General, it is about looking at the role of the Prime Minister's Office". Well said.

[@barbararankin5038]

Thank you for the clarification.

[@Talletc]

He refused to be examined under oath. That's straight from the HRC play book.

[@pseudopetrus]

I would like Judge Mary Ellen Turpel-Lafond to comment on the Vice Admiral Mark Norman case.

[@wayneellis7068]

Time to charge these people with obstruction.......the lies,the cover-up should be heard in a court of law and under oath.

[@MrRobtB]

Justice is NOT supposed to be 'politicized' !

[@johnmills3163]

So many good people (your guest) who speak truth/ & honesty. WHY can't we get people such as this lady, or Jody Wilson Raybould, Lisa Raitt, or Jane Philpott to run this great country !!!

[@stevet5379]

Why on earth would you want either the Libs or Cons to keep playing the "shift the power" game with this country any longer? It's time for a party that REALLY cares about this country and is patriotic and worthy of holding the office of the PM. We don't need a globalist agenda, we need safe borders, the UN does NOT run this country, the Paris Accord is a farce, the Fed gov't is bloated and needs to be reduced in size, and the list goes on and on.

[@johnmills3163]

@@stevet5379 who do you want running Canada for the next 4 years ? What's your pick ? The UN is holding hands with Trudeau, hence he signed the Global Compact Migration Agreement in Dec. 2018. Globalist/ and New World Order folks hang with the UN ! I'm not a lover of any one of the candidates, but Trudeau definitely has to go !

[@katedwyer5520]

Need an Inquiry! Restraints on political power and partisanship in our elected/appointed officials' offices are needed!

[@MrEriksson007]

Very well said

[@yvanmcgregor5823]

Keep posting!

[@saxytb]

This is what happens in third world countries. The troubling thought is that there are so many Canadians who don't see the wrong in whit Trudeau and his team have done.

[@danadouglas1968]

Lets not get too excited with JWR and her "coming forward" with facts. There is more at play here where I think most Canadians refuse to use critical thinking. Bottom line...she is a liberal at heart. Her dad is a hard core liberal as well and very vocal about his hatred towards conservatives. For her to be a turn coat would create big issues in the family teepee. Everyone needs to keep in mind that SHE voted in favour of EVERY liberal bill that helped destroy Canada under Trudeau. She didn't blink and eye. She is no saint. Seriously, if this SNC debacle was so devastating to her, why did she not cross the floor? Here's some more food for thought....this is all a set up. Fact: The liberals know damn well that Tudeau is done. He won't get re-elected and they know that. What better person to prop up for a shot at the PM's position than an educated, intelligent, native american.......woman who was mistreated and made to look like a liar. This is the perfect storm and if they do it right, the Prime ministers position could very well end up in the palms of JWR. Theory? Sure. Highly possible? You can bet your stolen children's education fund it is.

[@TheoSmith249]

Wow- what clarity!

[@clivehamilton4260]

Yes very smart Judge. PTL.

[@doug2616]

This is one smart woman. This is the kind of woman we need in a leadership role to govern. You don't have to double guess and question her honesty .She has nothing to hide and her integrity speaks for itself. This is what Canadians want but Trudeau fails to acknowledge and see it.

[@Grantorius]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Ellen_Turpel-Lafond

[@maggieandjim1934]

NO WE DONT........NOT A CHANCE .....THAT WOULD JUST BE MORE HANDOUTS FOR QUEBEC///////NO NO NO

[@ujc9038]

Absolutely right and qualified evaluation of this case. She should exchange the facts with Trudeau!

[@irenejacobson3081]

We need an OPEN PUBLIC INQUIRY, Canadians deserve to know The Truth. How about using a Lie Detector, to get to who is lying, and who is telling The Truth? Thank-you , your Honor, for weighing in on pertinent facts.

[@richardpas9581]

Our Media needs to make this an issue!

[@MsCougarama]

She is FLAWLESS in this - excellent grasp on this debacle...

[@breathebetweenthespaces]

Thank you Judge Turpel-Lafond! Iceberg below...mass distraction going on.

[@gemma6311]

Appreciate the Judge's perspective on this charade.

[@TGIR.]

Our parliamentary democracy and legal system are being tested. If an independant enquiry and investigation does not occur our 'way of doing things' will have failed.

[@louismartin3206]

Who can call a Royal inquiry? What is the Governor General thinks about all that?

[@michaelperrin2531]

Where's the RCMP ?

[@danaricci5044]

Judge is clearly pointing to con flict of interest. Independent inquiry discovery process would instantly reveal all that's needed for procecusions of PM and his cronies. Somebody is simply stalling thinking it ALL can be garnished in useless verbiage and put on merry go around ad infinitum . Hopefully the next LEGAL step will bring justice and due process back for all our sake !!!

[@Holeysocks464]

She makes it very clear the whole process is badly flawed. It’s unethical. The head justice of our country was prosecuting criminals, and our highest political position tried and is trying to sway and influence that process. Justifying that interference with the number of jobs it “ might” affect. So how many employees does any company have to provide to be exempt from the law or have special laws for their methods? Many businesses would like to know. What a sham!

[@stanbarnes7284]

Butts quit right away, came up with a story, and lied his butt off. He also should be charged and jailed.

[@IvankaB-ft6hd]

Lawless Canada. Government corrupt. RCMP corrupt. Trudope corrupt. Justice for rich and justice for poor working class.

[@barrybriscoe9568]

Independent inquiry is a must with more input from Jody with out restrictions on what she says.

[@treevenewson]

We need transparency and to purge the PMO of cronyism and bias. #CronyCapitalismIsTheProblem

[@CZFanGrrl]

All these intelligent women with integrity in our country, how about we put one of them in office as PM?

[@frankdevries6962]

Deeper investigation required, without a doubt

[@robintropper660]

If the ministry of Indigenous Affairs is in such a bad state and the Indian Act is so reprehensible, then she is THE BEST person to choose to clean them up and fix the situation .... No, I'm neither a lawyer nor a politician, but some things just make plain practical common sense!

[@absolutebruno3097]

I think the true arrogance can found in the former attorney general’s inflexibility, anyone thinking that they are the ultimate authority on the law is clearly demonstrating an element of hubris. Refusing to keep an open mind on the issue goes against the protocol that is in place allowing for a decision to be made up to the final trial verdict. If the former attorney general was unaware of that fact then certainly seeking legal rational and clarity from a Supreme Court justice could only help improve her understanding of a complex issue. It looks to me like she tried to Me too the Prime Minister and unfortunately dragged another good minister down with her. By sept. 17 she had only been back in Canada for 5 days from her Australian Vacation and was likely not even over her jet lag, how much due diligence could she have really done, seeking expert legal advice on the issue should have been part of that process, instead it was playing on a Beach in Bali.

[@absolutebruno3097]

Jet Lag - Cognitive effects include poorer performance on mental tasks and concentration; increased fatigue, headaches, and irritability; and problems with digestion, including indigestion, changes in the frequency of defecation and consistency of faeces, and reduced interest in and enjoyment of food. - Wikipedia

[@johnt184]

She says that the AG of Canada should not seek the advice of Beverly McLaughlin because the AG is the one who is writing the law. WHAT???? This happens all of the time. How often do Government of Canada lawyers go to the Supreme Court and lose? Also, it is my understanding that Ministers int Harper government frequently sought out advice from the Supreme Court before going forward on legislation. I do know who this person is, though I do understand why she would be sympathetic to JWR.

[@JDS11ify]

With all due respect Your Honour, it is not only Judges or layers who have a pretty good understanding of the law. Thankyou once again for your well articled comment, which cut to the quick and through the 'nice guy' witness persona, who does not want to name call, but does. The issue of texts, and emails from both phones is also a very troubling thing. He has and quotes from certain texts, but we cannot see the hard-copy. Smoke and mirrors. He states that we should believe him unequivocally. Ya right. The plot thickens.

[@marvinm.messier1120]

sadly - the kinds of people we actually want running our country - want nothing to do with politics.

[@888Longball]

JWR invited SNC to provide new evidence. Why didn't SNC hire the former Supreme Court justice to write that opinion rather than have the PMO illegally suggest it to the AG?

[@stevek6518]

if only the committee could have this professor testify to make these points about how the outside opinion is wrong

[@severianmonk7394]

Shouldn't a Royal Commission be convened to examine this? Where is the GG in this?

[@clifftomkulak7975]

great points #JWR #TrudeauResign

[@SallyT269]

Why isn't anyone talking about the inappropriateness of snc lavalin helping to write the dpa legislation?

[@user-tq1tf6hh9w]

Fact. Raybould never filed her written report. Had she filed her report stating that she was not going to counter the DPP's decision to prosecute, the matter would have ended. As such, perhaps JWR hasn't been 100% honest because if she had in fact made her decision, then she failed to comply with the law as to its execution. If she had filed the report, then any further attempt to change her mind would have clearly been obstructive, but absent that final act by JWR, it was still open for discussion.

[@ibnhakedonline1309]

Nothing but the utmost respect for this lady.

[@brendajames-ambo7422]

Well said judge. I personally did not believe a word he said. in my humble opinion that process is a waste of time because we cannot hear the full story and its to much a partisan process

[@stephenmerritt5750]

Maybe, if you are as corrupt as SNC Lavelin has shown to be, you shouldn't get a pass? I mean, if you have that many charges even to the point of hiring sex slaves you should be prosecuted.

[@TheApaulo42]

Very Smart Lady

[@DWinegarden2]

The prosecution in any case must remain OPEN to any new facts in a prosecution right up to the point of judgement by the court. Any lawyer who has ever run a criminal case knows they can discuss resolution at any time. The information coming to the PMO from SNC or anywhere else was fair play for the Minister to hear. If JWR was prepared to put her personal values ahead of anything on the SNC file why would she do the same in Indian Affairs? She finally had the chance to change the laws that have affected First Nations for over a hundred years but instead she wanted destroy the Liberal party.

[@johnashley-smith4987]

Section 135 of the criminal code,I believe is the pertinent section.

[@DWinegarden2]

John Ashley-Smith yeah it may have been! About as pertinent and this stupid ex-judge’s dreamt up opinions.

[@kentucker3784]

By stupid ex judge you mean professor of law. A stratocaster is a guitar. Seems your tool is a turntable. You're sure spinning this

[@DWinegarden2]

Ken Tucker - This person has an axe to grind with Trudeau that’s why she’s misstating the law. She’s not a judge anymore because she stepped down when Justin Trudeau refused to put her on the Supreme Court of Canada last summer. She quit judging and took the prof job. Now she’s clearly saying things that will disqualify her a Liberal appointment to the bench so maybe she’s in bed with the PCs now. Because that is who she is helping.

[@roberttucker4196]

Well she better get in line then because there must be 20 million Canadians who also want to destroy the liberal party !

[@mrg8255]

Wow the swamp is polluted . Who’d of thunk.

[@michelfaucher5246]

Wow i like her to run and independant inquiries and public of course she is smart

[@plantboy100]

it's a dumpster fire and they are pouring gas on it

[@dgt3800]

Yes. Inmates running the asylum

[@lucmasse8814]

Judge Turpel-Lafond said that its was not ok to ask Raybolds having an other legal advice, so why Raybold never said it to Butts

[@mikeoldman]

After three plus years JT is still taking baby steps to learn What is good & What isn't. I don't blame him, it is our fault to let him take driver's seat, without driver's license.

[@bradgiroux8469]

all of his testimony should be considered invalid as none of it was under oath, ergo, not true.

[@Metoo1111]

So, what if it is actually preplanned and they have an agenda?