Judith Butler: Part 1/6

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@WhatTheElisa
@WhatTheElisa 6 жыл бұрын
i can understand her when she speaks, but not when she writes.
@vanizorc
@vanizorc 12 жыл бұрын
Just because the "Western" world has relatively more equitable living standards than in most other places does not automatically mean that the West has reached *full* equality. There are obviously still issues of inequality to be dealt with here in the West. Also, like another commenter mentioned, hegemonic ideas are transnational, and the discourse which generates them are still alive and well in Western states (even though they are more "publicly" repressed).
@saudiarabiasugarbaby510
@saudiarabiasugarbaby510 6 жыл бұрын
vanizorc u
@redetrigan
@redetrigan 15 жыл бұрын
I had a similar reaction. I also thought it was funny that the "terrible things" Butler claims to have done as a "problem child" were speaking back to teachers and skipping class. If that's what it takes to be problem child, then half the people I know are delinquents.
@OppressedAnarchist
@OppressedAnarchist 13 жыл бұрын
Butlers background is literature. She studied a lot of post modernist literature and came up with the idea that everything is subjective. She goes way too far when she says "sex is a social construct".. I will agree that gender is constructed but to claim that biological difference are socially constructed is insane... She needs to take a biology class !!!!
@tinalilith
@tinalilith 15 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting this video. Much appreciated.
@sWeepingsAnd
@sWeepingsAnd 12 жыл бұрын
I don't know why I've just found out about this, but it is great!
@tcaron72
@tcaron72 11 жыл бұрын
A brilliant and humane thinker.
@83annak
@83annak 9 жыл бұрын
"I have friends who say 'I would rather die than wear a dress' Some of them are men...some are women." Butler is classy as hell. I love that woman!
@denisesfanclub
@denisesfanclub 13 жыл бұрын
She said something like "This is the madness (or foolishness) of Berkeley. And there's nothing revolutionary about what they're doing."
@OppressedAnarchist
@OppressedAnarchist 13 жыл бұрын
If I have to choose between listening to a "scientist" like Stephen Jay Gould who says that there are objective differences between the sexes or a literary critic (Butler) who says that sex is a social construct I am going to choose someone who actually studied the human body and pick the scientist...
@stephaniegaspar7912
@stephaniegaspar7912 10 жыл бұрын
how can i get this documentary in portuguese? or brazilian portuguese subtitles?
@Zafiroyacero
@Zafiroyacero 14 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Butler is a genius!!
@tubeRissen
@tubeRissen 15 жыл бұрын
@rund5ren
@rund5ren 11 жыл бұрын
Selon elle, comme une infime minorité d'êtres humains souffre, ou a souffert, ( comme elle ) de ne pas se retrouver dans ce qui, du point de vue statistique, est effectivement une norme ( l'hétérosexualité ), il faut détruire cette norme. 3 connards assassinent un gamin efféminé et il faut détruire la norme. Les nains souffrent aussi de ne pas être dans la norme : on attend ta théorie, Butler ! Coupons les jambes de tout le monde au niveau des genoux, les nains souffriront moins.
@aurora.a6645
@aurora.a6645 5 жыл бұрын
Je suis d'accord. Elle/il (ce stupid etre) est schizo
@golkeeper8517
@golkeeper8517 4 жыл бұрын
shes nice .
@nunobranco22
@nunobranco22 15 жыл бұрын
Extraordinary! Thank you. Im writing a thesis on Deviance in Almodovar's Cinema and this is so helpful! thank you! :))
@qualquerbobagem
@qualquerbobagem 13 жыл бұрын
I don't think she says gender is undefined and and androgynous. Gender functions because it is cleary materially diferentiated. In an absolute semantic sense gender probably is indefinite so gender would probably more correctly said to be a question of pragmatics. The question of gender is the question of how an individual socially enacts their biological sex. This can happen in many ways, but the form of the enactment is not essential.
@laurencesigarson9676
@laurencesigarson9676 11 жыл бұрын
Butler me semble une relativiste par intérêt. Elle défend au fond un point de vue totalement relativiste sur le sexe et l'homme, parce que c'est la seule façon de valider ce qu'elle est elle-même. De mettre sur un pied d'égalité sa vision de ce qu'elle est avec le modèle "dominant" de la sexualité. Le succès de cette philosophe est pour moi un mystère.
@cikuuzis
@cikuuzis 12 жыл бұрын
@DrownedBeliefs I dont think that postmodern theorists are saying that societal constructs are bad per se. Bad is the fact that some states of affairs are constructed to work for hegemony (racial, masculin, scientific etc) and are presented as natural and thus good and worth to sustain. Culture itself is a construct and humans can not live without it, but we must be careful of discourses that are trying to subjugate individuals under their concept of truth.
@cicicitron
@cicicitron 13 жыл бұрын
@aniamourinho apparently she was still going to the jewish school and had to study with a rabbi as well
@cikuuzis
@cikuuzis 12 жыл бұрын
@OppressedAnarchist If you had read her books, for example Bodies that matter, you would see that she is not saying that there is no body as a materiality at all. Here`s what she is saying: "there are, minimally, sexually differentiated parts, activities, capacities, hormonal and chromosomal differences" (Bodies that matter (1993), p.10) But in process of gaining cultural intelligibility, this materiality is fused with discourses, practices, norms that are not neutral at all.
@voltarad
@voltarad 11 жыл бұрын
subtitles please?!
@qualquerbobagem
@qualquerbobagem 13 жыл бұрын
@Underground906 the possbility of femininity is a necessary component of their argument. They don't say that it isn't possible only that it isn't essential.
@mephistopholus
@mephistopholus 14 жыл бұрын
Ohne Judith Butler wäre Mephistopholus nicht denkbar.
@Elspm
@Elspm 10 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy this, but on a much less intelectual note, oh my goodness turn on the automatic captions and check out how wrong they are :S
@sarahrussett2803
@sarahrussett2803 7 жыл бұрын
lol I know this is ages ago now but we can tell you're straight lmao lesbian/gay are often used interchangeably. like when ppl say "the gay community" they often mean "the lgbt community" it's also possible to identify as both for gender reasons, but idk her deal so
@cikuuzis
@cikuuzis 12 жыл бұрын
@DrownedBeliefs Type in translate.google.com this sentence "men are men and men should clean the house". You will see that Google will ask you "Did you mean man are man and WOMAN must clean the house"? It is funny but also means that there is discourse that still sustains this idea no matter in which area you are living.
@kafre87
@kafre87 15 жыл бұрын
It doesn't matter.
@jude0609
@jude0609 13 жыл бұрын
The sans-culottes were the radicals of the French Revolution. They were urban workers who wore pants (pantalons) as opposed to the middle-class, the gentry, and the aristocracy, who wore fancy silk knee-breeches called culottes. Thus: sans-culottes, or without culottes. To be part of the sans-culottes was to be poor and struggling and--as mentioned above--radical. In the documentary, Butler jokes that the Berkeley group represents the new sans-culottes, but that they aren't revolutionary.
@zoltanhudy6853
@zoltanhudy6853 8 жыл бұрын
off: what is the music played on violin at the very beginning?
@hykkoh
@hykkoh 7 жыл бұрын
Kol Nidrei, by Max Bruch, who was also a Jew, like Judith Butler here.
@qualquerbobagem
@qualquerbobagem 13 жыл бұрын
@pigley17 Butler will differentiate biological sex and gender. Gender is that which falls on the side of social construction. Biological sex is that which will fall on the side of organic evolution. The two are not reducible. Gender is a thing which will become significant in a given social context. Biological sex is a thing which has no necessary significant value. The organic ability an organism possesses to reproduce does not make the event of reproduction its necessary destiny.
@pinktomate1987
@pinktomate1987 12 жыл бұрын
@OppressedAnarchist You have a point, but i suggest to look deeply in gender theory, for example Beatriz Preciado.....
@joacollou
@joacollou 8 жыл бұрын
Is this in Berkeley? I was wondering why she was speaking both English and French on a lecture, thought she was canadian but found out she was american and a professor in UC Berkeley. She speaks beautiful french, and for some reason everyone in the room seems to speak it too.
@qualquerbobagem
@qualquerbobagem 13 жыл бұрын
@pigley17 as for desire for the opposite sex have you ever heard of homosexuality, but then without the presumption of the essential character of binary gender then the distinction of homosexuality and heterosexuality which relies on the presumption of binary gender will itself become a senseless distinction.
@AllTheSmallThings124
@AllTheSmallThings124 9 жыл бұрын
Could someone with a knowledge of French translate the narration between 00:18 and the title card?
@jimenezca1
@jimenezca1 14 жыл бұрын
@tangwich1 All of her work is a working through german idealism. Tag phrases do not make for quality.
@BecomingAdrian
@BecomingAdrian 15 жыл бұрын
oh look, this person is so insane his account has been closed.
@lizziebaba
@lizziebaba 12 жыл бұрын
Self indulgent or counter-hegemonic? Sometimes it's a fine line..
@RapidBlindfolds
@RapidBlindfolds 6 жыл бұрын
Doesn't her self-identification as a lesbian debunk her whole gender performativity theory? If you're exclusively attracted to women then that must mean that there is something essential that a WOMAN represents to her. If she were simply attracted to the abstract performance of femininity then she would be attracted to feminine men.
@Neuroneos
@Neuroneos 6 жыл бұрын
Did she ever say sexual desire was gender-based and not sex-based? I don't think so...
@cchamborant207
@cchamborant207 5 жыл бұрын
She's crazy
@DecoratedEmergencyX
@DecoratedEmergencyX 13 жыл бұрын
@patrick112590 No, I probably would. I call plenty of people stupid to their faces. It's nothing personal, really; it's not your fault you can't understand Butler's complexities. Or, well, maybe it is. Regardless, I wouldn't EXPECT most people to be able to understand such complex theory. :)
@harmonsiegel
@harmonsiegel 16 жыл бұрын
what's with the random sentences in french?
@bluewaves3518
@bluewaves3518 9 жыл бұрын
Actually generally ones sex does relate to gender. The fact that it does not always does not detract from that. Biology and culture have a role... but not only one or the other. Suggesting as she does that its all manufactured is somewhat deluded... So she simply chose to be lesbian?... That goes against the whole notion that people are borne gay etc.
@Emily-rb4px
@Emily-rb4px 9 жыл бұрын
+Blue Waves She does not say that you choose your gender or your sexuality
@cikuuzis
@cikuuzis 12 жыл бұрын
@DrownedBeliefs Of course in 21th century the level of tolerance is much higher than it was but still world is not that shiny place that you imagine. I am from eastern Europe, ex Soviet block and here still it is dangerous to be, for example, homosexual because here the hegemonic idea that heterosexuality is "natural" prevails and gay people often are victims of hate crimes. You think that if something is not bothering me it does not exist - it is very provincial approach.
@cikuuzis
@cikuuzis 12 жыл бұрын
@DrownedBeliefs According to your view if i am not starving then i can not say that there is problems with poverty. Or in this case if i am not a subject of sexual and/or gender oppression than everything is cool in the world. Worlds does not end with USA or western Europe where these problems are really not a big issue but there are places where there are real problems that stems from these repressive hegemonic ideas.
@golkeeper8517
@golkeeper8517 4 жыл бұрын
I cant hear french
@Pinpilinlique
@Pinpilinlique 11 жыл бұрын
And why do you think it's typed more often??? Are you not getting anything from what you're saying?!!!
@OppressedAnarchist
@OppressedAnarchist 13 жыл бұрын
@DecoratedEmergencyX: Judith Butler is only "complex" in that she spews a bunch of subjective post-modernist literary garbage that earned her "worst writer"award among certain academics. Google it this is a fact. Literary Critics should stick to literature... There is a reason Butler mostly appeals to English and Feminist Majors and is disregarded by more serious disciplines like the majority of biologists and anthropologists...
@isocrate27
@isocrate27 14 жыл бұрын
@tangwich1 She does not address anything that is beyond her intellectual capacity.
@divareli4755
@divareli4755 10 жыл бұрын
Interesting.
@Ramanujan88
@Ramanujan88 13 жыл бұрын
okay, someone please translate what she said in French after the girl did "no pants day".
@welldone1877
@welldone1877 6 жыл бұрын
Its the crazyness of Berkley, is it not? No pants day; the new sens of no pants , by a revolutionnary (said sarcastically)... are you sure its not revolutionnary ? to which bulter replies , no I think not. Her french is crap.
@Neuroneos
@Neuroneos 6 жыл бұрын
"New sens of "sans-culottes", no the revolutionary one" I really think she says pas rather than by
@YusefAsabiyah
@YusefAsabiyah 15 жыл бұрын
Most of the great philosophical questions appear stupid, plain, straightforward, obvious, almost as if not worth asking. If your opinion is that Butler is not worthy of consideration because you don't find what she wishes to address "stunning" perhaps you need to consider that when you call her the pseudo-intellectual, you are a pot calling the kettle black.
@todoestaxconstruir
@todoestaxconstruir 14 жыл бұрын
traduzcan al español por favor!!!
@shackleton12
@shackleton12 14 жыл бұрын
butler is well gud, wikd stuff!!
@robhighnam
@robhighnam 14 жыл бұрын
I don't get what she's talking about from 7:13. Yes, I understand the words, but she seems so uncertain to convey her thoughts. "I adore my pants?" what? And why is she forcing French if she can't find the suitable words? This whole gender stuff, "choosing your gender" idea seems like an outdated fashion. It may have seemed interesting back in the 60s, 70s, but I doubt it has validity now.
@annaenanna
@annaenanna 15 жыл бұрын
She claims a lesbian identity. And, yes, it does matter.
@golkeeper8517
@golkeeper8517 4 жыл бұрын
subtitles pleasw
@cikuuzis
@cikuuzis 12 жыл бұрын
@OppressedAnarchist I was under impression that in order to debunk ones view it is necessary to get acquainted with it in the first place. Instead you are posting something that i not being said and refuting it like it is Butler`s own position. She is not radical constructivist, nor essentialist on issues concerning sex and gender, but you are trying to position her as being a radical constructivist.
@pierrebru1234567
@pierrebru1234567 12 жыл бұрын
Wow, and people who think alien exist are crazy???
@nunobranco22
@nunobranco22 13 жыл бұрын
@redetrigan she was being ironic.
@rositarose7928
@rositarose7928 7 жыл бұрын
1:08
@gmatsue84
@gmatsue84 11 жыл бұрын
The universe isn't infinite though :)
@yuckyoo
@yuckyoo 11 жыл бұрын
GO BEARS! Woot!
@rund5ren
@rund5ren 11 жыл бұрын
I'm as fluent in english as you are. If my answer doesn't please you, I don't care cause it wasn't meant to do so. Y hasta lo podría escribir en castellano : ¿ quién sabe si el mono no eres tú ?
@onunlimitedblackbox669
@onunlimitedblackbox669 9 жыл бұрын
Ce que fournit l'oeuvre de Judith Butler sont des outils intellectuels pour réfléchir à cette évidence perdu des normes.
@BecomingAdrian
@BecomingAdrian 15 жыл бұрын
i like the girl in the purple wig a 5:45 ^_^ HAPPY NO PANTS DAY...! ahaah! thats awesome.
@MadamTango
@MadamTango 15 жыл бұрын
admirable woman.
@gmatsue84
@gmatsue84 11 жыл бұрын
I don't get the joke
@mensabs
@mensabs 10 жыл бұрын
Who is he?
@bewilderedape
@bewilderedape 10 жыл бұрын
It's Michael Douglas preparing for his role in a movie about Judith Butler.
@MusicTeacherGuyNorristown
@MusicTeacherGuyNorristown 5 жыл бұрын
This is where most of this gender studies nonsense came from.
@hosalmeer
@hosalmeer 12 жыл бұрын
I think this sort of attitude is non-constructive. You're just spewing bitterness, and most of what you're saying isn't true in most places. I could make a similar list for men, and we both would learn nothing... like so: BECAUSE a man enters the army when conscription becomes law and if we are a charged with a crime we're more likely to go to prison and if we go to prison we're likely to serve more time and if we go to court to fight a custody battle we almost always lose etc, etc.
@qualquerbobagem
@qualquerbobagem 13 жыл бұрын
exactly why the distinction between biological sex and gender is made. In which case the arrogance falls on the side of the person believing a necessary reciprocal process to persist between the two positions.
@qualquerbobagem
@qualquerbobagem 13 жыл бұрын
@pigley17 Judith Butler looks like a man because from the social perspective from which you are interpreting her appearance, this is what a man is presumed to look like. Actually if we were to observe the apparent existince of gender empirically we would probably find that it exists much more in the manner of a contimuum or spectrum than in the dialectically opposed manner that you presume. This opposition is simply your own presumption and says nothing about the thing itself.
@user-og4zy3cg9m
@user-og4zy3cg9m 9 жыл бұрын
известно, что кто живет через ж.... и мировоззрение через ж....
@dominicconroy810
@dominicconroy810 8 жыл бұрын
Имея в виду...?
@rositarose7928
@rositarose7928 7 жыл бұрын
she seems has big ego... to think and realise she is smart
@onunlimitedblackbox669
@onunlimitedblackbox669 9 жыл бұрын
Indispensable.
@pigley17
@pigley17 13 жыл бұрын
@DecoratedEmergencyX I have read Gender Trouble, and it was a long way off being the most challenging text I have examined, let me tell you. While I find her arguments though provoking and interesting, I'm afraid that for me they lack substance and are in a way clutching at straws. People should be wary of taking her every word to be fact- she is a philosopher, not a scientist. I only use philosophers' works as a lens through which to temporarily view the world, and accept or reject as i see fit
@hosalmeer
@hosalmeer 12 жыл бұрын
Why are you blaming men? I'll tell you what, if you're going to blame men, then you need to blame women. Think about it. And don't turn men into your enemies, you're supposed to get them onto your side, not abuse them. Pissing all over a group of people, so many of which want to help, isn't going to help you at all.
@redlady935
@redlady935 3 жыл бұрын
6:20 This kind of put me off Judith as seems it's not inkeeping with her open mindedness to tell a grown woman what to do like that
@pigley17
@pigley17 14 жыл бұрын
her notion of the unfixed, unbounded and fluid nature of gender/sexuality can be countered by a ten year old. how does she explain for the maternal female body- sculpted to reproduce and rear children within a heterosexual framework. or desire for the opposite sex. is that a social construct too? and her looking like a man doesn't prove anything.
@lartistafred
@lartistafred 6 жыл бұрын
Butler looks ans talks like a man....so she always had troubles with her own identity...and thought it was the same for all humanity.
@jessycassady1680
@jessycassady1680 6 жыл бұрын
Absolutely true. Exactly like Freud...
@Aresftfun
@Aresftfun 5 жыл бұрын
wow great critique of theory. I think you're just insecure with the fact that a trans woman's smarter than you.
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