Judo for MMA No Gi Drop Seoi Nage (Drop Shoulder Throw) Tutoriall

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Stuart Tomlinson

Stuart Tomlinson

Күн бұрын

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@ForzaTerra89
@ForzaTerra89 8 жыл бұрын
Great video, it's really hard to find someone who's prepared to teach no gi judo or judo for MMA, and I can see this being a really good technique
@warriorcollective
@warriorcollective 8 жыл бұрын
Sophie is exceptional and coaches equally Gi and No Gi. I get what you are saying, there are not many that do this but from experience I know there are some dotted around. You just have to do you research to find them. Glad you enjoyed it!
@edsanjenis9416
@edsanjenis9416 3 жыл бұрын
Sophie instructions is excellent, she is natural teacher.
@nightmonkey2779
@nightmonkey2779 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome technique! Also she looks just like Yara Greyjoy from GOT lol
@coryvore
@coryvore 5 жыл бұрын
NightMonkey I was LITERALLY scrolling to the comments section to say that EXACT same thing!!!
@timo235711
@timo235711 3 жыл бұрын
Note that she does the throw both left and right sided. Quite impressive!
@anamartin6577
@anamartin6577 4 жыл бұрын
I really appreciated that she showed the throw in both right foot forward and left foot forward stances.
@jayceeinvincible
@jayceeinvincible 7 жыл бұрын
Sophie makes the soei nage look so easy. Definitely gotta start going through your other collections Stuart😁
@zombiewack
@zombiewack 10 жыл бұрын
Judo is awesome
@warriorcollective
@warriorcollective 10 жыл бұрын
***** It certainly is, glad you enjoyed the vid!
@SuperUnbeliever
@SuperUnbeliever 4 жыл бұрын
Love this Lady's accent.
@sebastian7494
@sebastian7494 9 жыл бұрын
Great demonstration, ma'am. Respect! Using the bent knee is a helluva lot better than the plain one without the bending of knees. Also bending the knee is a lot more effortless. Thx for sharing this great throw
@leavemealone2006
@leavemealone2006 10 жыл бұрын
Great technique! Also, when they have the collar tie, you can immediately go into the throw. You don't have to swim inside. Another technical point is that if you push up on their armpit with your elbow, it makes the control on the arm tighter and increases the leverage on the shoulder.
@warriorcollective
@warriorcollective 10 жыл бұрын
leavemealone2006 Glad you enjoyed the vid and found it useful, thanks for the variations on it!
@MartyMoose1611
@MartyMoose1611 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the technical details. I've practiced this and was able to do it (if I can, there's hope for anyone).
@sdzachar
@sdzachar 9 жыл бұрын
I love your style, I am gonna include your style take down into my Strategy for IBJJF on October 3rd, 15 in NY. I learned one with gi from a brother in Judo.... and thank you for posting the video.
@warriorcollective
@warriorcollective 9 жыл бұрын
+Dusan Zachar Hey, you are more than welcome, I am glad you enjoyed it and found it useful enough to add into your game. Sophie, being a former Judo Olympian, is definitely someone to listen to when it comes to looking at the details needed to improve your game in this arena.
@sdzachar
@sdzachar 9 жыл бұрын
Thank you Sophie for responding to my comment to you. I did good at PAN AM NO GI ibffs 2 weeks ago I got 2nd place and in absolute one weigh I end up 3rd. I am going to the WORLD NO IBJJF IN LON BEACH CALIFORNIA in Nov.7th, I do include your technique in my game......ps, I do face many wrestlers in tournament , usually dropping down and pulling guard. If you have any videos how to defend a wrestler id be great.
@markymarco2570
@markymarco2570 8 жыл бұрын
Dusan Zachar It's Stuart answering to you, not Sophie.
@qtip1926
@qtip1926 8 жыл бұрын
I'm not gonna lie I don't see this working out very well in a sport competition, but then again now I realize that I was missing out on a few key details. Don't get me wrong though I've done this in real life. It's a classic throw. Thanks for posting great technique, it made me see it in a different way.
@hb-studentoflife
@hb-studentoflife 2 жыл бұрын
It actually works great in competition. I used it a couple of times in wrestling and went to state after a year in wrestling due to years in judo.
@jmieles1983
@jmieles1983 4 жыл бұрын
Wow really enjoyed watching this. Going to try it tonight. I'm not a wrestler so I have issues dealing with standup in BJJ. I can defend the shoots and work from a headlock but offensively I have issues shooting. But I can see these techniques working for my style
@peculiarlittleman5303
@peculiarlittleman5303 6 жыл бұрын
Best towatch at 1/2 speed :52 1:27 2:03 2:21 3:00
@Good_life-u4m
@Good_life-u4m 5 жыл бұрын
Beautiful throwing
@warriorcollective
@warriorcollective 5 жыл бұрын
Sophie is an exceptional Judoka!!
@englishvocabulary64
@englishvocabulary64 9 жыл бұрын
very useful... I'll certainly try it next training. Thanks for sharing.
@freecheese4143
@freecheese4143 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for your video. Repetition is great.
@AamirTime
@AamirTime 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome technical breakdown. Thank you.
@davidtice4972
@davidtice4972 7 жыл бұрын
Very nicely done.
@freecheese4143
@freecheese4143 3 жыл бұрын
Really fluid.
@derrick_smitty
@derrick_smitty 5 жыл бұрын
ippon seionage is a great through if mugged from the rear in a choke, however in the street never give up your back for this throw or go to your knees. A better throw for the street is koshi garama/ neck hip throw.
@marty6522
@marty6522 4 жыл бұрын
*koshi-guruma
@michaeltrimble7680
@michaeltrimble7680 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, coach!
@BluesHarpJammin
@BluesHarpJammin 9 жыл бұрын
Nice demonstration.
@warriorcollective
@warriorcollective 9 жыл бұрын
BluesHarp Jammin Glad you enjoyed it, Sophie Cox is an amazing Judoka and makes everything look easy!
@iamchamp6814
@iamchamp6814 9 жыл бұрын
sir stuart i have a question this is effective into larger opponent ..iwant to surprise my friend when we spar
@rhidiandavies1991
@rhidiandavies1991 5 жыл бұрын
The bigger the uki, the better it works. It generally pretty hard to do any variation of seoi nage against someone much shorter than you, whereas bigger opponents go over all the faster.
@longliveavalon
@longliveavalon 5 жыл бұрын
Beautifully explained!!! Thank u!!
@mayatiita1
@mayatiita1 4 жыл бұрын
Great! 👍🏻 Thanks for sharing 🙏🏻
@kayleigh4236
@kayleigh4236 9 жыл бұрын
I love everything about this! I found it looking for throws most suitable for petite 5,2" people like myself and I'm going to make a serious attempt to execute this tonight in Randori ^_^ Great style, I'm going to continue to stalk you for further ideas now.
@warriorcollective
@warriorcollective 9 жыл бұрын
+Kayleigh Bailey Ha ha, Sophie is an amazing Judoka, you could not have picked a better person to stalk!! Make sure you watch her other videos on here and check out her website and Facebook page!!
@SophieCoxjudo
@SophieCoxjudo 8 жыл бұрын
+Kayleigh Bailey www.judo4all.com and sophie cox judo on fb - More videos coming soon...
@nicocontreras5366
@nicocontreras5366 8 жыл бұрын
I love seoi but is hard to do in MMA, thank´s for the video
@warriorcollective
@warriorcollective 8 жыл бұрын
Anything that involves turning your back in MMA is not without it's risks ha ha, Sophie is a phenomenal instructor, glad you enjoyed this tutorial!
@tomaspanda1245
@tomaspanda1245 9 жыл бұрын
Hi, I have been a Judoka for about 7 years and recently stopped. I gave MMA a try and I am really enjoying it. Everytime we spar for a takedown + tap ( no strikes ) I always use this because it feels very natural to me since it is my best judo throw. Since we spar with no gi, it is hard to perform this throw, however with a right set-up I can pull it off... My main trouble is when I actually finish the throw, my neck becomes exposed and usually my opponent takes my back or goes to side-control. I sparred with a black belt jiujitsu fighter, and she was trying to set me up for an ogoshi throw, so I went to clinch, pushed and pulled and went for drop seoi nage, she ended up rear naked choking me... Please give me a tip on how to fix this problem - my mind is only starting to adjust away from ippon to tap the opponent so I am having trouble.
@SophieCoxjudo
@SophieCoxjudo 8 жыл бұрын
+Sen Panda The arm has to be across your shoulder, not around your neck. Tight upper body control and the controlled landing onto the ground is key
@tomaspanda1245
@tomaspanda1245 8 жыл бұрын
Ok I see! I will try it, thank you. After so many months I am now a lot more adjusted to grappling and can not see myself ever coming back to judo due to me loving all the leg locks that I have learned ! Your advice will certainly help me a lot, thank you! (I am competing in a month for the first time ever in BJJ so have to practice this :O)
@SophieCoxjudo
@SophieCoxjudo 8 жыл бұрын
+Dominus Providebit Hi Dominus, I would never expect my opponent to let me, you have to work for this position. Usually I would do it from the clinch, take e grip and attack within a couple of seconds.
@tomaspanda1245
@tomaspanda1245 8 жыл бұрын
+Dominus Providebit this is for mma not for judo. after the tip i got given, I managed to learn how to adapt and now -clinch is my best friend. i clinch and set this up by an ouchi gari. push them off then go for this. works like a charm. if that fails and im on my knees - quickly switch to a leg lock.
@carteryip9514
@carteryip9514 9 жыл бұрын
Very good stuff Thx!!!
@pythonfamily
@pythonfamily Жыл бұрын
Great, thanks a lot
@symmetryfitness1
@symmetryfitness1 5 жыл бұрын
Great job!!
@jundean5292
@jundean5292 4 жыл бұрын
Is there anyplace in birmingham that teaches No Gi Judo for mma?
@davidtice4972
@davidtice4972 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent!
@wael77
@wael77 9 жыл бұрын
Really nice.
@warriorcollective
@warriorcollective 9 жыл бұрын
Wael Abdelgawad It certainly is, glad you enjoyed the vid!
@hamadibrahim16
@hamadibrahim16 8 жыл бұрын
very very good master
@warriorcollective
@warriorcollective 8 жыл бұрын
Sophie is an amazing judoka, glad you enjoyed the video!
@stevevoyles3816
@stevevoyles3816 Жыл бұрын
Very nice..
@alevieirareis
@alevieirareis 10 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, thank you !
@warriorcollective
@warriorcollective 10 жыл бұрын
You are more than welcome Alessandro, Sophie is an amazing coach and we look forward to filming her again in the future!
@alevieirareis
@alevieirareis 10 жыл бұрын
Stuart Tomlinson I tried this technique today and it was fantastic. I showed the video to my friends on the tatame. Thank you again!
@warriorcollective
@warriorcollective 10 жыл бұрын
Glad it has been of use to you, that is what the channel is all about. I will be filming some more Judo tutorials sometime soon no doubt!!
@bloodygi1773
@bloodygi1773 9 жыл бұрын
Great stuff !
@dangerousdavid2012
@dangerousdavid2012 8 жыл бұрын
hard to transition into a pin when your arm is tied up like that in the landing. i've had similar problems with makikomi
@warriorcollective
@warriorcollective 8 жыл бұрын
Sometimes that is the case but as Sophie demonstrates, the more experience you have in executing the throw, the easier you find the small transitions!
@орчлонертөнццонх
@орчлонертөнццонх 8 жыл бұрын
question: Which part of the arm/shoulders can we grip/dig into to prevent/minimise the chance the opponent's arm from slipping out when its sweaty/slippery?
@nidgeontour257
@nidgeontour257 5 жыл бұрын
Goh YX have a tighter grip and it’s all about speed of the throw to prevent the arm from slipping.
@silaturban2413
@silaturban2413 9 жыл бұрын
hei bro i wanna ask i saw another version about this technique he didn't knee drop, what is better? what's advantage if i do whit knee drop?
@warriorcollective
@warriorcollective 9 жыл бұрын
Zain Iqbal Hey, I think you may have watched someone do the shoulder throw without the drop. They are two different variations so it is a bit difficult to say which is better, it would depend on the context. I suppose the advantage of the drop is that it is often easier to get the other person over you quicker as you utilise your own body weight in the throw (as it is a sacrifice) whereas the downside is you will be more exposed for a counter if you fail in the attempt. I hope this helps
@silaturban2413
@silaturban2413 9 жыл бұрын
Stuart Tomlinson thanks alot
@bilvah2914
@bilvah2914 9 жыл бұрын
Hi I was wondering where you got those mat/tiles and how much for would be great !
@warriorcollective
@warriorcollective 9 жыл бұрын
+bil vah Hey, this gym is based in Manchester, UK. To be honest, I am not sure where they got their mats
@bilvah2914
@bilvah2914 9 жыл бұрын
Stuart Tomlinson Ok thank you. If it is possible to find out it would be really useful- google isn't always perfect lol.
@earthboundjudo9695
@earthboundjudo9695 8 жыл бұрын
Sophie's videos are really useful not only for judoka who make a serious study of the no-gi game, but also BJJ players and even the average person trying to incorporate basic judo into their arsenal. Don't know how it is over in the UK, but in the US there aren't many judo clubs that place a lot of focus on no-gi throws, though that is starting to change, slowly. I just started a strictly no-gi adult judo program in my local area (Selden, NY in Long Island) called Earthbound Freestyle Judo, and Sophie has definitely been an inspiration to our program, knowing that a judoka of her caliber is out there making no-gi Judo a major part of her teaching. And if anyone local to us here in Selden (Suffolk County, NY) is looking to learn some nogi Judo, our website is judonogi.com We just started so we're still working on video content, but it will be up soon. You can also find us on Instagram @earthboundjudo and on FB as well.
@anomalistic3046
@anomalistic3046 9 жыл бұрын
Great video thanks! Question for the nogi drop throw seoi do you prefer to punch up and pinch uke's arm between your elbow pit or do you grab uke's arm with your hand ?
@SophieCoxjudo
@SophieCoxjudo 8 жыл бұрын
+Danimal Coast For the standing variation I would punch up and for this variation (the drop) I would grab the arm.
@anomalistic3046
@anomalistic3046 8 жыл бұрын
+Sophie Cox Thanks!
@nicocontreras5366
@nicocontreras5366 8 жыл бұрын
Bicep contact is key !
@camodigital2
@camodigital2 7 жыл бұрын
Jesus mode teaching great vid thanks for info
@darylfields
@darylfields 5 жыл бұрын
I love judo and all japanese martial arts
@thomass.4007
@thomass.4007 8 жыл бұрын
Please make a video Judo possibilities with different clothes/Half Gi (pullover, t-shirt..) What always confuses me is that by self defense everyone always thinks about "no gi". I never got attacked by a guy in underwear! Everytime the attacker had Jacket (=gi) or t-shirt (=half gi?). Even if he takes of his shirt for some reason, you can still grab into his trousers and eventually his belt, which allows much more throws. Shirt allows some more throws and definitely othen jime and many others :)
@warriorcollective
@warriorcollective 8 жыл бұрын
Hey, it is definitely an interesting idea and I will raise it the next time I film with a Judo instructor! I hope you have been enjoying all the Judo videos currently up regardless!
@joserezende102
@joserezende102 6 жыл бұрын
Thank's very much for share. Osss
@user-re3fd6jl5k
@user-re3fd6jl5k 8 жыл бұрын
Would this work good in a wrestling match
@anomalistic3046
@anomalistic3046 8 жыл бұрын
Ive pretty much hit most judo throws no gi including this one on state champion level wrestlers.
@user-re3fd6jl5k
@user-re3fd6jl5k 8 жыл бұрын
Yeah its good because they least expect it.
@joshuayap3098
@joshuayap3098 8 жыл бұрын
Nice shoulders
@warriorcollective
@warriorcollective 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I guess.... Ha ha, glad you enjoyed watching it and found that the shoulders were the stand out aspect ;-)
@dylan11q37
@dylan11q37 8 жыл бұрын
2:05 Fart and awkward silence
@psionicevasion
@psionicevasion 10 жыл бұрын
Would this actually hurt an opponent in a self defense situation? It doesn't appear to be that destructive
@arianlabbaf8810
@arianlabbaf8810 5 жыл бұрын
Uploader24 depends on the speed and height at which they’re thrown and stuff it it can be baddd
@nololeas1000
@nololeas1000 10 жыл бұрын
good
@annoyed707
@annoyed707 4 жыл бұрын
Nice throw but not my first choice on a surface that might hurt my knees.
@tomhoppy6864
@tomhoppy6864 6 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of fireman, where people just sit on me and there’s no throw, but if it works for someone else that’s damned cool, my instructor throws me all the time ...
@kwak76
@kwak76 6 жыл бұрын
with sweat it's allot harder people sometimes slip out
@Twisted676Faith
@Twisted676Faith 8 жыл бұрын
Doesn't this leave your opponent in the perfect position for a head choke?
@ForzaTerra89
@ForzaTerra89 8 жыл бұрын
Drake Snow don't Roll all the way through and you can go for an armbar, alternatively hook the head on landing, but yes there is a slight risk of someone taking your back, but it shouldn't happen if you control the shoulder
@killersalmon4359
@killersalmon4359 7 жыл бұрын
Drizzy Drazoo If you punch someone, it leaves your arm in a perfect position to get armlocked. When this throw happens, it happens FAST.
@firemedicpgh
@firemedicpgh Жыл бұрын
🔥
@Native_love
@Native_love 4 жыл бұрын
Everyone thinks BJJ is the aswere but It only handles one guy at a time. Judo and boxing handles many!
@jimmyalderson1639
@jimmyalderson1639 6 жыл бұрын
'This is ippon seoi nage whoch translates as one arm shoulder throw' It doesn't thou does it?
@jackstoutamore8541
@jackstoutamore8541 4 жыл бұрын
It does, actually
@TravisBickle0312
@TravisBickle0312 8 жыл бұрын
Only needs one l in Tutorial but good vid.
@standingMMA
@standingMMA Жыл бұрын
How to do it without dropping ur knees
@aikighost
@aikighost 10 жыл бұрын
Good video, but no way in hell am i ever going anywhere near being o my knees for a throw in MMA. FAR TO DAMN RISKY. Never the less total respect for the level of technique shown here. Large amounts of skills being shown.
@warriorcollective
@warriorcollective 10 жыл бұрын
aikighost I understand completely where you are coming from, a lot of people feel exactly the same way. However I feel if you have this level of skill and confidence, I do think it can be one of those things that you can hit in MMA to good effect. It is down to skill, timing and commitment! Glad you enjoyed it!!
@jessesmith7553
@jessesmith7553 10 жыл бұрын
If the throw is successful you don't have to worry about the knees they're going to be flying through the air.
@aikighost
@aikighost 10 жыл бұрын
Jesse Smith ...and if it isn't you are absolutely fucked in an MMA situation. Hence my original comment. Too risky for my liking.
@gallolocoparisien
@gallolocoparisien 5 жыл бұрын
Why wasnt I teached this when I was 10 yo? Would have continued Judo for sure
@BB-mv9wl
@BB-mv9wl 2 жыл бұрын
At the end, his arm is wrapped around you though🤔
@aramis_83dnb84
@aramis_83dnb84 9 жыл бұрын
another judo video kzbin.info/www/bejne/g5nbpp-ferSJjqc
@lupash
@lupash 7 жыл бұрын
savage
@shudahknive
@shudahknive 9 жыл бұрын
I thought you are getting head locked on the third one.
@SophieCoxjudo
@SophieCoxjudo 8 жыл бұрын
+The Handsome Titan There is a danger but as long as you are aware of it and pull down on the arm it is easy to avoid
@sahinsarkar7293
@sahinsarkar7293 4 жыл бұрын
This lady is punishing the guy like he ate her food during lunch 😅. I would try not to be her partner. The teaching is on point though.
@RG856
@RG856 9 жыл бұрын
Да как ты так руку у него заберешь?!
@AltonCrooks
@AltonCrooks 3 жыл бұрын
Luta Livre = No Gi Judo
@mohamedfouad2304
@mohamedfouad2304 6 жыл бұрын
Seoi otoshi not seoinage
@STUIPEDCHICKEN
@STUIPEDCHICKEN 10 жыл бұрын
so pretty much if they have an under hook on you you can hit this on them \
@MadeInManny0161
@MadeInManny0161 4 жыл бұрын
I see judo as a last resort...you want to be able to finish a fight as quick as possible...though judo throws are great...I dont really wanna be dropping on my knees to throw someone in a bar or on concrete.
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