Judo VS Brazilian Jiu Jitsu (Cases study)

This video compares Judo and Brazilian Jiu Jitsu in the three main scenarios that are always discussed, and see the pros and cons of each.
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[@callummorgan7495]

This channel is way too underrated.

[@Chadi]

Thank you Callum

[@a.mustafa3522]

Wayy too underrated

[@jb8375]

I agree and it's not about bashing Gracie's it's just unbiased facts about the history of our martial arts 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿👊

[@Chadi]

@@a.mustafa3522 ❤

[@Chadi]

@@jb8375 thank you much appreciated

[@pedromoreno239]

JUDO is education and very respectful

[@Chadi]

100%

[@rangelo8908]

Exactly. Judo is about morality, education and creating quality human beings. Khabib said it" Judo is class, Judo is elite".

[@LupusRexRgis]

Agree. What I find very sad is that unfortunately a lot of Judo practitioners never really absorb this aspect. It is not Judo's fault obviously, but human ego being way louder in those people's head. A martial art in the hands of a sociopath turns them into super sociopaths. A good example is Kayla Harrison's former coach, who abused her when she was young. He clearly didn't absorb any of those. And we all see many more like him.

[@SoldierDrew]

"Judoka are killers standing up and competent on the ground while Jiujitsuteros are killers on the ground and incompetent standing up." True statement.

[@rangelo8908]

True words were never spoken

[@dianecenteno5275]

Agreed!

[@Mataninja]

Is there a good reason why the Gracies neglected nage waza?

[@ddwfw]

@@Mataninja they fought in vale tudo with no time limits or points, you could only win by submission or KO so a throw almost never ends a match. When you think of a takedown it's not only a perfect judo throw, if I just hang on to you with a body lock and slowly drag you down that's good enough if I'm a beast on the ground because the ref doesn't stand us back up, there's no break in vale tudo. Plus in the old days they rarely fought people with good takedown defense. They had a basic standing curriculum which was good enough for that time, now so many BJJ gyms don't even train the standup portion because they can pull guard.

[@graciederangementsyndrome3669]

"competent on the ground" That statement is a fine example of the dunning kruger effect. By today's BJJ's standard, Judokas are incompetent on the ground since not only they don't know the current meta but even lag behind some of what is considered BJJ's basics like most fundamental guard passings.

[@BFerreira82]

I did Boxing for 3 years and currently in BJJ but love watching and reading about Judo. Would love to crosstrain. Keep up the great job. Amazing channel!

[@Chadi]

Thank you so much

[@quickstep2408]

BJJ is the 'boxing' of grappling since it only specializes in one aspect.

[@BFerreira82]

@@quickstep2408 Then... oh well, guess I'm just a simple guy. To each his own !

[@stevepanda1716]

It seems like most modern judo and jujutsu people think in terms of handling a fight with mostly grappling, often culminating with a submission. Traditional Japanese jujutsu didn’t separate itself so clearly from weapons or striking arts. It might be called bujutsu, with the unarmed aspects called taijutsu (body arts) or torite kenpo being common names spoken or given in scrolls. Iso of Tenshin Shinyo fame talked of the importance of atemi in fighting multiple attackers. I grew up in a ghetto and fought often, and I don’t ever remember being attacked by a guy who didn’t have several buddies with him. So I sure didn’t want to be tangled up in him for long, or get in some prolonged ground battle. Atemi and weapons were common, and we were taught to use throws as finishing techniques. A strong Seoinage that stood a guy on his head or planted him on a fire hydrant usually got rid of him. You have to be fast and efficient, and keep moving.

[@Chadi]

Agreed

[@philosophiaentis5612]

The Fadda Jiu Jitsu, a non Gracie BJJ variant, gives more emphasys to the takedowns then the Gracie variant, without losing the strength of the ground techniques. It is a really good balance between the takedowns and ground techniques.

[@davinsuryadi548]

How do you know? I'm interested to know more since i found not many info on that.

[@BestWayKilla]

With all the refinement of BJJ, both in technique and methodology, that's taken place over the years as newer generations and affiliations continue to develop it, I think it's important that people realize that this is a far cry from the art that the Gracies first learned and proceeded to market to oblivion and back, and also that they were not the only ones to learn the art back in its nascent days, and the differing approaches to it led to some very different focuses. The BJJ that is being practiced by the likes of Roger Gracie, Marcelo Garcia, and Gordon Ryan is almost unrecognizable to that of the art Carlos and Helio Gracie taught.

[@hectormachuca4961]

I love your channel, and you’re very well informed and documented. As a Ju Jutsu practitioner under the Valente Brothers, we don’t practice for sport competitions, it’s based on self defense only, to protect ourselves on the streets, with that said, we never trained on our knees, we trained five principles: Self Defense, Striking, Throwing, Grappling and Philosophy. As far as I know this is the original form of Ju Jutsu.

[@Chadi]

I had a talk professor Valente, it's on my channel

[@nikolaosmandamandiotis8970]

Yeap, exactly as you said. Everyone sould respect each other, I call bjj coaches newaza masters, from the moment they go safely to the ground they have the upper hand . It's true that if a pure bjj practitioner stand up with a judoca of the same level they will not know what hit them , with stand up you can dictate the beginning of the match and you can actually beat someone very fast, what creates the momentum is the shock of the fall followed by a good submission, imagine though that for self defence the fall can be enough to damage someone off the fight. Judo's ashi waza and gripping especially if used correctly can overwhelm the enemy making him go defensive and never recover. I can see the techniques in the ground being fascinating , and what bjj teachers and fighters did taking an aspect that wasn't familiar with many and master it in order to fill that gap shows us that in fighting everything is useful at the right moment and with the right mentality so we must never forget any technique, instead we sould see where a technique fits in order to perfect our game, for sure though there are techniques more important and usefull than others and sould be more focused on,

[@Chadi]

Exactly right

[@LupusRexRgis]

9:06 - "the art of Judo" - and transitions to a clip of Matt Hughes doing a wrestling foot sweep. 😊 Now, in all seriousness, another great video by Chadi. Slowly growing into every grappler's hearts across the globe. 😀👍

[@Chadi]

Aaaww that's precious thank you

[@benkeating3053]

This is called ko soto gari. This is one of many versions of kosoto gari.

[@BestWayKilla]

@@benkeating3053 And in wrestling, it's just called a foot sweep. It's almost as if the body is only capable of moving in so many ways, and in their own time, different cultures discovered how this particular movement could be used offensively and incorporated it into their native martial arts.

[@stevepanda1716]

As for judo people transition from gi, remember that the long sleeved gi jacket is a product of the 20th Century. And as kids, we had regular matches in class with our jackets removed. It made us even better in matches when we put the gi tops back on.

[@Chadi]

There are footage of no gi training in the past

[@lisabarron4834]

No body street fights naked. Most usually a sweater or jacket is worn....these bocome tools against the wearer for the Judo practitioner.

[@ronin2167]

@@lisabarron4834 But we don't need them.. Also, a double or sigle leg takedown attempt won't work either. Or a body clinch. You might as well just stand there and let me throw you then. Now you're attached to me. Thank you.

[@BallstinkBaron]

@@lisabarron4834 depends on where you live and what season it is

[@andrewkarl5174]

True, practicing no gi sharpens your gi game. Steve, if our outta the game, get back in it.

[@ruggero33]

I'm Brazilian. Too many people don't know that "Conde Koma", the instructor of the First Grace family member was sent to Brazil to demonstrate the efficiency of judô technics. If you talk about It here in Brazil, you will probabbly be attacked and insulted, but the truth is BJJ came from Judô and not from Aikijujutsu or Jujitsu as populary known. BJJ is an adaptation and evolution of self-defense judô at same time.

[@jcromagnon]

Depends on the dojo, in my for example have an image of mitsuyo maeda and helio gracie on the wall

[@sheldongt1504]

Essa galera que tu anda aí é mt burra então... no geral sempre vejo reconhecimento do Maeda!

[@Shoegazebasedgenre0.]

its more of like an algamation of different fighting styles interpreted by a whole different culture because Maeda cross trained in catch wrestling even though he is a judoka.

[@gingercore69]

Best self defense for multiple oponents is not be there... And if you are there, get out of there... Things you can learn to do so: -400m sprint -buildering(free climbing buildings) -5km run -parkour -taihenjutsu

[@Chadi]

And a 6mm

[@Howsoonisnow2009]

Grabbing some popcorn because this is going to be good.

[@Howsoonisnow2009]

Thanks for the video, hope you’re feeling better

[@Chadi]

Thank you very much

[@sakissakis7992]

Imho, every martial art has its beauty and something to offer.We, as martial artists, must have open mind and learn different concepts, principles and techniques in order to be complete in our journey. Thank you.

[@Chadi]

Agreed

[@wagneroliveira9122]

Amazing Channel, Chadi. Congratulations from Brazil!

[@Chadi]

Thank you Wagner

[@78my9]

Excellent exposition. Clear, concise and informative.

[@Chadi]

Thank you

[@maitrekano]

very honest video , i agree with your points , and by the way good recovery . a la prochaine .

[@Chadi]

Merci beaucoup mon ami

[@counterkidnapping1737]

I'm a skinny person but not too skinny, lanky type, was told by my coach your body type is good on the inside, that's why I love underhook, single leg and always get the inside and someone get a hold of me I'll get the inside then break free. Forget greco clinch and over underhook it won't work for me

[@Chadi]

Since you're on the inside consider inner reaps as well (O uchi gari and Ko uchi gari)

[@hiskandar]

That's perfect application of Jeet Kun Do principle. haha

[@counterkidnapping1737]

@@hiskandar what principles?

[@counterkidnapping1737]

@@Chadi there's only one footsweep in Judo , my favorite one. O Soto Gari, I like that, but I can't do it on a bigger or heavier person, maybe it works in self defense but not in a competition, not for me, I'm too thin to execute that lol

[@hiskandar]

@@counterkidnapping1737 keep whatever works for you, discard what doesn't, and add your specialty (JKD principle)

[@chrischiang1512]

Kayla Harisson & Ronda Rousey proven judo can be transition well into mma

[@Chadi]

Exactly

[@benkeating3053]

Something happened to Ronda in 2014. Prior to that her game was: block, grab, throw, submit. After that her game plan was: stand and trade strikes. Not sure why she abandoned her winning ways for an untested one but it was her choice.

[@chrischiang1512]

@@benkeating3053 now the spotlight is Valentina Svenchenko , another very talented mma fighter that main skills are judo and muay thai. Her strikes are way much better than Ronda's

[@benkeating3053]

@@chrischiang1512 it is unclear to me why shevchenko would make a claim to be a judoka. She has no history of IJF competition and there's no evidence of her ever competing in judo at any level.

[@chrischiang1512]

@@benkeating3053 judo is the only grappling art she master under her profile. U don't need to be a world renowned judoka to prove , look at Khabib the UFC champ and Kikuta Sanae the unknown judoka who won ADCC

[@NoControle17]

I'm Brazilian and a jiu jitsu fighter, at least where I train Jiu Jitsu, the objective is to submit the opponent, standing if possible. In Jiu Jitsu there are 3 "tipos" of fighters, the passers, whose strong point is takedowns and guard passes to obtain good positions and submissions, the guards, whose strong point is their guard, they are the ones who generally pull for guards and get sweeps and submissions, but they are also specialists in some sacrificial takedowns such as the tomoe nage, and finally the "passers-guards", they adapt to the situation of the fight, they are good at takedowns, passes, sweeps, guardas, and has the ability to transition between positions to obtain the submission. All of these types of fighters aim for submission, but each one has a preferred fighting style.

[@drfrancovalento7545]

Great advise! Thank you 🙏🏼

[@israelcanada8969]

Amazing video Chadi! Merci beacoup ❤️

[@KingMo98]

Speedy recovery Shadi!

[@Chadi]

Thank you Mohamed

[@quickstep2408]

My problem with the majority of Bjj is that it gives you a terrible mindset: to not have to pay attention to the first 2/3 of the fight (standing + takedown). You're only focusing on the ground part. This is an even worse mindset to have for self defense, and it's kind of cocky to assume that you'll still be okay by the time you get to the ground. I don't know why people still aren't calling Bjj 'ground grappling'. Bjj is a subset style for overall grappling. I think that it's too late for the evolution of Bjj to include more stand up/takedown in training because every player is determined to become rockstars at groundwork so most don't even have an interest in any other areas of grappling. Competitively, you're only going to fall behind your peers if you split your training up in that way. It comes down to if you want to holistically learn the art for grappling, and taking the time to put in work in the other areas of weaknesses of Bjj, or focus soley on groundwork for competition.

[@Chadi]

I think if each mastered 2 takedowns just two that would make things a lot better

[@jcarrigan3274]

A simple solution to BJJ's problem with the lack of training for throws and takedowns could be solved by deducting points in competition for pulling guard. The main problem is if people know your takedowns are good they are just going to pull guard on you. I'm fortunate in that I have a professor who is also a black belt in Judo and skilled at wrestling, so throws and takedowns get practiced for self-defense. To be fair not every BJJ school skips the throws and takedowns. In some schools knowing a certain amount is required to advance to higher belts.

[@jsdduke]

There are many different types of jiujitsu . Some are so far away from grappling they can be classified ,by the uninformed ,as a striking art. Self defense is not limited to a specific “art” . I do agree that sport and self defense are totally different “animals “. Ultimately in a simple analogy. I’d rather be lucky than good. Life and death aren’t restricted by rules. Because there aren’t any. Except as you said” the law”.Criminals are predators. I enjoy your passion and open mindedness 💯

[@Chadi]

Yes there are endless Koryus

[@andrewkarl5174]

I’ve been training with an accommodating sensie, practicing osoto gari for months, right hand grips, left hand grips, hitting it moving in all directions. Fun stuff.

[@a.mustafa3522]

I really love and enjoy your videos. Keep up the good work hopefully you‘ll grow. Much love

[@Chadi]

Thank you Mustafa

[@jeremyyap1714]

No-gi Judo needs to be a thing!

[@Chadi]

Yes

[@jeremyyap1714]

@@Chadi I wonder if there's a school out there offering gi judo and no-gi judo classes on alternate days, like BJJ schools. Judokas from that school would have a much smoother transition into MMA/ADCC/Polaris

[@Chadi]

@@jeremyyap1714 freestyle judo i think

[@MeroGrumble]

It is. It's called wrestling.

[@chuckmartin935]

Muay thai experts who've become good (years of practice) at judo can usually defeat bjj blackblts in mma bouts. Like video states- they will never let you get in position to use bjj.

[@Shadowrulzalways]

Any style user that learns Judo can win.

[@insidethevelvetglove3919]

CroCop, was an example of someone who was hard to take down, even Mark Coleman couldn't do it

[@Warlordjoker2394]

So our head Jiu-Jitsu instructor is a black belt in judo and we do go over basic throws and wrestling but I've noticed when ive cross trained at other gyms. They do not do a lot of stand up

[@isachamidou4488]

Did you mean Judo v/s Brazilian Judo ? Ju Jutsu includes striking, throwing, defense against weapon and ground techniques. Gracies do Judo with leg locks..

[@rangelo8908]

Execellent video comme toujours mon ami!

[@Chadi]

Thank you

[@BW022]

Judo 100% for self-defense. Going to the ground should be a last resort as: 1. It removes your best choice for self-defense, running or walking away. 2. It will absolutely get you killed against multiple opponents. 3. It puts you at a disadvantage (even with BJJ training) if size is an issue. A 150lb woman is still able to throw/sweep a 180lb guy, but on the grown, even if trained, get be stopped. 4. You only learn if your opponent can grapple after you have committed. 5. There are lots of things untrained foes can do on the ground which can get you injured. Biting, hair pulling, grabbing your nuts, going for your eyes, grabbing a rock, pounding your head into the pavement, etc. You rarely train against those. 6. Your options to 'win' a fight on the ground are limited and brutal. You have to be willing to choke someone unconscious or break a limb. Allowing them to tap and get up, they could easily continue. If a judo throw is (somehow) illegal, then choking or breaking someone's arm certainly is. They are not appropriate for school yard fights, dealing with a drunk at a party, dealing with a shoplifter, etc. 7. Submission options are highly likely to get third-parties to intervene. They look lethal. 8. Dropping to guard is just asking to be kicked in a real fight. 9. Ground takes too long. Maybe 10-20 seconds. Judo throw is over before your opponent knows what happens. 10. In most judo throws you have some control over the damage you do. You can knee drop (virtually assuring their head/shoulder hits the pavement) or you can stand and hold their head clear so it's (at most) limbs hitting the ground. Further, in Judo, you can just stand over the person with the treat of throwing them again (which is actually trivial) if they try to stand.

[@prestonvanboyd8809]

I appreciate your content!

[@Chadi]

Thank you

[@ianj4389]

Honestly due to Olympic Judo rules changes average judoka (not national level athletes) have problems defending simple double and single legs takedowns, ankle picks, etc because there's no sport reason to train them anymore. Martial arts athletes train to the rule sets, bottom line. There's only so much time to train so you train to the rules, and in general BJJ athletes train takedowns far more than throws, and judoka train throws more than takedowns. To keep doing the "versus" analysis is silly because they have completely different rules that have made the sports develop in different directions. If BJJ awarded a win for a full throw the BJJ athletes would quickly become very good at traditional judo throws. If Judo awarded submissions more than pins and throws then judoka would get much better with that aspect of the game.

[@Chadi]

Versus can also mean to compare, it's not silly at all

[@ianj4389]

@@Chadi Here in the US it typically does not mean that. It typically it means "which is better." Just an FYI. Thank you for your response.

[@MeroGrumble]

"Submissions" are ippon (win) in judo, just as perfect throw or pin. However, the rule set works against groundwork as referees are quick to make the judokas stand up. So many just "turtle up" to stall, which allow them to spend little time on groundwork training and to focus exclusively on their throws instead. Also, if you can win with a pin, working on your submissions from top position means spending more time on something that is not necessary (from a sport perspective).

[@wengs4788]

From just an ordinary person’s point of view, when I saw Judo for the first time, I felt Art because of the throws, I just thought, wow it’s so beautiful. In bjj’s case it looks interesting but most people don’t know what’s going on. Boxing is exciting to watch it’s a no brainer but recently I’m hooked to Japanese women’s wrestling. Martial arts is fun.

[@felipemartinez1275]

So called "brazilian jiu jitsu" is nothing else but Ne Waza Judo.

[@Chadi]

With changed rules, and no gi added

[@xXIceShowerXx]

@@Chadi no gi bjj really changed the whole game

[@quickstep2408]

and with some catch wrestling. can't forget that part of the history.

[@graciederangementsyndrome3669]

And I thought the Gracies were arrogant people, but my goodness internet Judokas can be even more arrogant and borderline delusional. You're so damn insecure

[@Shadowrulzalways]

@@graciederangementsyndrome3669 Bruh, Judoka have beaten BJJ users more times. And Judoka have a good reason to not like the Gracies. The Gracies were dishonest, Con-artists and sore losers.

[@isaiahkenny3544]

Chadi I love the classic videos of the ancestors I do BJJ but bottomline we all one family what I love about Jiu jitsu judo ninjitsui vee Arnis jitsu it all compliments each other literally the evolution of judo! I do BJJ but I still come to your videos to recap technique's of the ancestors I have the self defense aspect when I do BJJ even though the School I train with is more sport which I feel is bad because that takes away from the art these are war arts we are doing and for someone to tell me not to grab his thumb but he can do anything really defeats the purpose let alone if you are in the streets!

[@ignitionfrn2223]

2:00 & 2:10 Now that some sweet burns !!!

[@SINdaBlock411]

bjj: basically just jutaijutsu, judo: jutaijutsu under downgraded olympics ... all forms of grappling are essentially different varieties of jutaijutsu

[@mertles02]

Would be great to see you do a full review of John Danaher's Feet to Floor series covering all the factors, i.e. comparisons with Judo, effectiveness for competition and self defence etc. Might be even worth doing a series on it when all volumes are out?

[@Chadi]

If i can afford it:p but sure it could be something to look at

[@mertles02]

@@Chadi yes his stuff on BJJ fanatics is very expensive!

[@timurnenaydokh9588]

Great channel

[@Chadi]

Thank you Timur

[@catherineannemccloskey-ros9500]

Mon Ami, I am so glad you make these videos because I learn so much!

[@Chadi]

Thank you Cathy Anne

[@peteramarillo8952]

"there are rules in a street fight. the law" I love that.

[@jihadshadee1558]

Well said! Same art different priorities.

[@Bojj1]

Hey Chadi im big fan of your work, watching your videos made me thinking of starting my own channel and i was wondering what program do you use for editing the videos?

[@Chadi]

There's many to use, shotcut, Da vinci resolve, they're free online

[@Bojj1]

@@Chadi i installed da vinci and really like it thanks for the help Chadi!

[@claynabess6079]

Thank you, get well stay well. Peace!

[@lesjardinspartagesrakrouki1357]

Bonjour Chadi le jjb Graci est issu du Japon ???

[@charlesalexander2676]

So from what I'm understanding as I'm listening is, when someone grabs you and you dont want to end on the ground do one good technique and destroy him so they wont be wanting to get up or they cant............my perspective.

[@andrewkarl5174]

Our Dojo rules, leg grabs in randori, yes.

[@salmanalthani7753]

Hey Chadi what's your view on this, I personally call it jiu jistu, and not bjj, as that's what Maeda called, Rigan machado him self told me and my school, and also Rickson recently agreed with Jocko when he brought up the same view. Rickson also called his association the jiu jitsu global federation. Historically I noticed that the name of the school was called the name of the person like Kano Jiu Jitsu, or gracie Jiu Jitsu.. But jiu jistu as an entity was always the same.

[@Shadowrulzalways]

Judo has ground game.

[@kpllc4209]

I don't think you can be a world champion in Jiujitsu and not know a single takedown, you just might not be very good at them.

[@Chadi]

Look at Miyao brothers

[@lucascarroll3726]

Super interesting videos

[@Chadi]

Thank you 🙇🏻‍♂️

[@onerider808]

As odd as it may sound, there are jitsuka (and karateka) who are as skilled in standing/take downs) as any judoka...

[@claesandersson5300]

Very good video

[@Chadi]

Thank you Claes

[@Taekwon-Brando]

If I went into a bjj school and they made us start on our knees for rolling I’d cancel my membership lol, only beginners start from the knees here

[@CharlesJones-el5nx]

I like bjj and judo but if you're on the streets and there is 2 guys bjj is not good judo maybe but bjj is good if there is one guy.but no hate a love and train in bjj and judo and I love wrestling I did it when I was a kid.

[@MizanQistina]

Calling it "Brazilian" Ju Jitsu is the same like saying "Canadian" Taekwondo (ITF actually established in Canada)...it's misleading and don't have any meaning, they're the same thing, Ju Jitsu from Japan.

[@Chadi]

I used it as the general term

[@zyphos9444]

BJJ is derived from Judo though, rather than directly from Japanese Ju Jitsu

[@MizanQistina]

For me, by calling it "Brazilian" it is as if originally made by Brazilian people, I mean like want to detach it from Japanese people as it's own brand. No martial arts named such, not even MMA associate with nationality. American MMA, British MMA, French MMA...no such thing.

[@Chadi]

@@MizanQistina Agreed

[@MizanQistina]

The no gi Ju Jitsu techniques can be found in many martial arts, especially in Silat. What being called as "take downs" are mainly Ju Jitsu/Judo techniques but being called with different names. Asia have sea trade traditions and series of wars up to WW2, so it is not shocking to see martial art relationship here. People just need to open their mind by looking at the sea....

[@rusiatevuetibau6333]

This is exactly why my BJJ friends hate rolling with me, hitting them with variations of newaza locks and pins be getting them hella mad low key sometimes LMAO

[@esmaeelsamhan8161]

Amazing

[@Chadi]

Thank you

[@henrikg1388]

I am still of the opinion that cross training in (kick/thai-)boxing is much better spent time for self-defense than typical "self-defence" drills. But well, I know that you disagree so we'll leave it at that. ;) BTW, I dug up some info on German close combat training before and during the war, and it is interesting. I'll be back.

[@Chadi]

I agree we do need some form of striking

[@marty6522]

Anyone who understands self-defence would agree that training in an art such as Muay Thai would be vitally important for real confrontations for several reasons. Even if you prefer grappling, you need to train in striking to develop highly trained reflexes to deal with real-world violent scenarios from surprise attacks, weapon assaults, multiple attackers, etc. The best grappler in the world could easily be knocked unconscious and stomped into the ground by a cunning sucker-puncher. The grappler probably wouldn't even see it coming and not have a chance to use his skills. In contrast, a high-level striking would easily destroy the sucker-puncher in a few seconds or less. He'd see the attack coming a mile away and it would seem very slow to him. This isn't to say that Muay Thai is superior to Judo, it's to point out that they both train necessary attributes for self-defence.

[@Shadowrulzalways]

@@marty6522 Okinawan Karate has far more tools in real self-defense than Muay Thai does.

[@ranfan1820]

@@Shadowrulzalways Like what?

[@christopherspohn8071]

By whom is it underrated?

[@leenvdsteeg8147]

In a sporting context, I would say Bjj is better than judo. If your talking strictly self defense, judo is better than bjj simply because judo teaches you to throw the other person and stay standing yourself. You never want to go to the ground willingly in a self defense situation, as most bjj schools focus on. most self defense situations are actually spend most of the time in clinching range. Guess what judo focusses on 80 percent of the time: Clinching range, but unlike wrestling or muay tai where they focus on under/overhooks and collar ties, judo teaches you to make use of a person's clothing by way of the gi. Guess what most people will be wearing in a self defense situation: clothing. if the fight does go to the ground, in a self defense situation, Bjj starts doing way to complicated stuff past blue belt. Ask any of the Gracies when they were still challenging people, most fights back then against unpredictable opponents where won with basic stuff: Kimura, straight armlock, guillotine, rear naked, (back) mount. Exactly the stuff they focus on in judo ne waza. Also, if your in security or law enforcement, nothing discourages a would be assailant more than being thrown on his ass. A far better strategy than rolling on the floor with him, especially if there are weapons or multiple assailants involved. I think Geoff Thompson said it best: " judo is the martial arts world best kept secret"

[@juliencharlet3672]

Can you do a video on the Alavanca (leverage) that Grandmaster Hélio Gracie added to Gracie Jiu Jitsu.

[@Chadi]

I'm not sure that's true! But I'll discuss it for sure

[@juliencharlet3672]

@@Chadi Are you calling Grandmaster Hélio a liar? Hélio added alavanca to Jiu Jitsu and thus Gracie Jiu Jitsu was founded in 1925. Hélio was only 12 years old when he established the Gracie Ryu. Hélio was a true Jiu Jitsu genius and protégé. He add pure technique to his Jits. Looking forward to this discussion.

[@rangelo8908]

That could not be further from the truth

[@zyphos9444]

@@juliencharlet3672 I can't tell if you're trolling or not. Leverage is used in some way in almost every grappling art to ever exist.

[@jesseshaffer3951]

Idk what you mean. I slay BJJ of same belt with kodokan judo LoL. Their newaza is missing so many techniques.

[@yopyop8175]

The japanese newaza has not a standard methodology ans system. The judoka only make transition from tashiwaza to newaza. They cannot win against bjj because of that. Ne waza Japanese is just some moves repeated but the bjj is an ideology. I am crazy about japanese ne waza. I think there is no stronger newaza user than katsuhiko. Unfortunately the kodokan judo has destroyed the oda ne waza philosophy

[@Supermomo2007]

kosen judo has another opinion

[@rodrigofernandes7790]

Só passando pra lembrar que o criador do Bjj Foi Carlos Gracie é não hélio Gracia.🤦🤦

[@Colin-rr7uy]

Get better soon !

[@Chadi]

Thank you

[@36pimps]

im a bjj player, and my professor says every time you pull guard you kill a kitten

[@AnonUser1977]

I’ve heard a lot of the more fancy judo throws don’t work for bjj because you end up giving up your back.

[@Chadi]

Not necessarily, many got hit with seoi nage and uchi mata

[@KwehuMedia]

im brown belt judo and still white belt bjj nobody has been able to take my back for nearly a year😂still enjoying tossing people around, they always have it coming especially the blue belts😀

[@AnonUser1977]

@@KwehuMedia I’m sure you’re devastating from Standing but how’s your newaza?

[@KwehuMedia]

@@AnonUser1977 I'd say its average sometimes i tap the blue belts most of the times i get tapped, still trying to combine my judo newaza & bjj and come up with a solid ground game. Purple belts & above is another story i just hang on & wait to tap😂

[@AnonUser1977]

@@KwehuMedia You'd be a killer in competition. I can't tell you how many rolls I've seen where the standing just ends up being a boring judo match for grugs. I intend to do Judo as some point, I feel like if you only learn one or the other you're only learning 1/2 an art. Work those reps, you'll catch up with the higher belts- no doubt you have the fitness for it.

[@senseihitmanwayofkempo8305]

Both judo n jujitsu need some karate sprinkled in 2 complete the self defense tool box ... n oh yeah self defense no rules 4 me if u force me 2 protect myself it must b a life o death situation .... I have no concern how much damage I do 2 attackers body if I'm n a fight I will totally disregard the law or the health of my attacker... like my jujitsu sensei would say ... it better to b judged by 12 than carried by 6 .. n combat fighting w intent to kill o the systematic destruction of the human body is the prescription. . I'm 53 trained since 16 n always been able 2 avoid street fights .. dont go 2 bars n b aware u b safe

[@highchamp1]

Lifetime of interest Arts & Science A lot of interests are going to take decades of work and study now (broader knowledge base) Specialists need to also have broad experience if they are to advance further.

[@Chadi]

They need to have a nucleus (grappling) and center everything around it

[@highchamp1]

@@Chadi If you look at artists or physicists the obvious has been done. It's going to take some creative thinking to come up with new stuff. Broad experience is going to be important.

[@Chadi]

@@highchamp1 agreed

[@highchamp1]

@@Chadi Although I am not sure how accurate this idea is. It may take some discussion. (efficiency in the process of learning, training, old-current thinking, culture etc.) a complex matter. "Early Days" just like the UFC 1 days.

[@walmart7020]

Bjj keeps stealing moves from other grappling arts and claiming it's bjj. It needs to change it's name to grappling.

[@Chadi]

They're all judo moves, even the wrestling

[@selectjed1]

@@Chadi judo is also just grappling.

[@quickstep2408]

*ground grappling*. catch wrestling in there too.

[@graciederangementsyndrome3669]

Well, Judo 'stole' moves from jujutsu styles and self-proclaimed itself as a separate art. Judo even stole a couple of wrestling takedowns and called them Japanese names in their tachiwaza list. Your profile name is ironic considering that Walmart steals the market competition lel

[@walmart7020]

@@graciederangementsyndrome3669 judo incorporated ground fighting after being defeated by the original japanese jiu jitsu practitioners in a tournament. This change was well known, public, and out in the open at that time. Unlike the Gracies, who are quietly making changes and hoping nobody ask them about them.

[@mentalbroadcastofficial]

I totally disagree, Helio already prove judo has no chance against BJJ long time ago, no questions left.

[@Chadi]

Kimura disagrees

[@mentalbroadcastofficial]

@@Chadi first of all we all know how antigracie the Americans are. you mention danahan who is a new guy with a couple of good students, when in fact the best coach of all times also we all know os Carlson, also you forgot to mention the 50 ponds weight difference for kimura and how Helio defeated Kato, so shut up and go back to the martial art classes B4 present your lame opinions as reality 😉

[@MrJames-eb6rp]

​@@ChadiAnd Yoshida as well choked out Gracie

[@aircombatmaneuvers]

And Kids... just remember: Any idiot with a simple kitchen knife can kill you.

[@ciaransantamaria7476]

I'd love to know how everyone is haing all these fights....like fight at the beatch WTF?? I'm in judo for the sport, I think too many people who do martial arts get them selves in situations they would never be in if they didn't have it and everyone martial art trained or no should just stay out of these situations.

[@senseihitmanwayofkempo8305]

My friend i love u vid but n self defense i prefer 2 body slam on skull than knockin people over i want uki 2 land where he stood head 1st i 2 old 2 wrestle after a takedown im 52... id rather b judge by 12 than carried by 6

[@AbdulAli-fv8th]

whats the name of that throw on 9:10??

[@Chadi]

Ko soto gake

[@satriagemilang9]

I love you jiu Jitsu 😘😘😘🤝🤝

[@priyanshubiswal817]

All bjj techniques are in judo and all judo techniques aren't in bjj

[@wasabi5338]

I think the uchi mata is also great for the street. It can be done to larger guys and since most people dont know how to breakfall, they can potentially post on their hands and injure themselves, thus ending the fight without going to jail.

[@nobbytang]

Judo guys cant piss about trying to get a dominant grip and BJJ guys can’t bend at the middle whilst stood up trying to force a crap throw ….any throw where the Uki lands on a bar floor or tarmac particularly if the head has contact with the floor could end the fight within seconds ….maybe a competition format between jujitsu and judo where a heavy throw scores a 7 and 3 of these end the match …obviously on the floor the judo guy must try to get back up ASAP or the chances are the BJJ guy will probably win ….in self defence both the judoka and the BJJ guy needs to know about boxing and Muay Thai …

[@maxikozie]

One more weakness in Judoka's ground game: giving the back or even rolling flat to the belly to stall for maté. Judoka often do this, and I usually cannot strangle them quickly, but within 2 minutes I can. So it's bad in a bjj match, and I imagine it's bad in MMA too. (And I don't know how easy it is for judoka to adapt a different strategy?)

[@Chadi]

Turtling is the worst

[@idek9394]

Chadi, Judo or Wrestling for MMA? If Judo then why?

[@Chadi]

Because judo has a bigger variety of throws than wrestling and pins and submissions

[@idek9394]

@@Chadi But majority of throws are for gi

[@Chadi]

@@idek9394 easily adaptable, check Ronda and Karo in MMA

[@idek9394]

@@Chadi Will do, appreciate this a lot!

[@doubleb222able]

Dude, lol. Almost 90% of your mma examples you showed wrestlers using wrestling takedowns. And don't say those were "judo" techniques, because those techniques existed before Jigoro Kano's great grandfather was born.

[@Majin_Doh]

Train how to fight Fight how you train Good luck to the average judoka trying to stop my blast double leg

[@813infinityfilms123]

👍

[@Chadi]

🤙🏻

[@andrewblack7852]

I’ve fought judoka full contact. I’d rather fight a judoka any day than a bjj guy. By that I mean the bjj guy just has a broader range to deal with strikers. Basically bjj was developed as a street fighting system while judo was developed as a sport. They have the same origin of course.

[@senseihitmanwayofkempo8305]

Bro u got the bug wow go 4 a long run n take b pollen n b propolis it ill help did 4 me

[@Chadi]

Thank you for your concern

[@AlissonWololo]

"Land you in jail" 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Chadi]

I mean it's true😏

[@cletusgadsden2969]

!

[@Chadi]

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[@cletusgadsden2969]

@@Chadi I love this channel, and wanted to make a quick comment to help with views!

[@Chadi]

@@cletusgadsden2969 thank you Cletus

[@senseihitmanwayofkempo8305]

Yes gi help a judo man all soldiers wear uniforms so judo great 4 real combat.... naked wrestler w oil on skin aint real it a sport