Meanest Cards in Commander

[@mth4456]

*plays a 5 color deck with every one of these cards* *gets banned from playgroup*

[@PhoenixXZY]

Or just play blue, which seems to be the color of half this list lol

[@kanevivi]

@@PhoenixXZY oddly my friends black is the issue

[@olafthemoose9413]

Zur''s Werding seems good in muldrotha since you always basically draw the card thanks to muldrotha

[@mth4456]

I've seen CEDH muldrotha stax that play it. There was one on playing with power. You are right, it's super strong.

[@dennisbradford7216]

I have also seen Muldrotha decks run it. It hurts.

[@Illusionmaker_MTG]

I play it in modern and well...noone deserves to be punished with this card in EDH xD

[@LookOut667]

Possessed Portal as well ;)

[@RedBossTV]

Invoke Prejudice is probably the most controversial card in Magic's history. The art, the artist, the name, everything.

[@Donaldsangry]

Best card for all those reasons

[@bobkoalaraptor7153]

Actually illustrated by an active KKK member at the time. Part of why its so expensive

[@vineciogentile6610]

@@bobkoalaraptor7153 he was a neo Nazi and kkk member who wasn't that bad of an artist but it's still fucked up. Too bad the card had to be so good... The artwork alone doesn't want me to buy it although it would've been great for sen triplets

[@redwillow1853]

Price of Glory should be on the list. CMC: 2R. Enchantment Ability: Whenever a player taps a land for mana during another player's turn destroy that land.

[@aleckwright1607]

+ Drain Power, because someone has to be a living embodiment of a middle finger

[@OGTahoe3]

Isn't there a creature that destroys lands when they get tapped for mana

[@Janlobbo]

Is that really that mean? It kinda just means you gotta play your stuff at sorcery speed. It's a good card, but I don't really feel that it's mean.

[@slasheztech5390]

Me secretly playing armageddon in my new zur deck without telling my group so I can have an invincible Zur while they have nothing

[@salamanteri_]

Price of Glory and similar effects are the opposite of mean. It prevents counterspells and other instant speed shenanigans, which in my opinion are the most nasty things in casual EDH.

[@runningbull73]

Hey Satan, do you know when DJ is coming back?

[@TheGrifcannon22]

DJ: Don't play these cards! Me: Are you saying I should play these cards?

[@psy_p]

Friend: Rhystic Study Me: in response Notion Thief

[@cameronwise-maas5610]

Friend: ok, I choose not to draw until your thief gets removed.

[@anthonydelfino6171]

@SupaFly Supreme it stops every draw having the Rhystic Study player ask "would you like to pay extra for that?" which is reason enough to play it in my book.

[@scooterthefrog]

Opponent: rhystic study, I'm gonna draw alot of cards or slow you down. Me: Jace's archivist, you do you chum, but you're not going to be slowing me down.

[@anthonydelfino6171]

"That Craterhoof is suddenly 16 mana... are you ever casting that?" does anyone ever actually cast craterhoof instead of cheating it into play?

[@theelike4302]

I can easily say in the 4 years I've been playing commander I've never seen craterhoof actually hard cast.

[@anthonydelfino6171]

@@theelike4302 I think I've seen it hard cast once... by me in my horrible energy deck where that's one of the only ways the deck can win.

[@eusouzoom]

I hard cast hoof all the time in my Edric deck...

[@tcwaterboy3306]

@@theelike4302 have you ever played vs omnath or selvala? Lmao

[@pkphantom]

Everybody that says they haven't seen craterhoof hard cast I always find myself wishing they could play a game with me. I would make the dream come true for them. Doing it for 16 mana would only be inconvenient because it would limit what follow up plays I could make after casting it, but not enough to stop a big ass play 🤣

[@Quicken-li3xo]

8:38 pause it at just the right time and youll be rewarded with a blue screen!

[@eusouzoom]

I tilt so much about these kind of things...

[@QuietlyHere666]

Emry, lurker of the loch + mindslaver. "No no no, I get to play magic"

[@KBgamer2010]

DJ, when it comes to Sunder, you're thinking Little...WAY too little Sunder while there is a Teferi's Puzzle Box in play, now THAT is mean Now if you want degenerate combos, I got some good ones Hive Mind with Warrior's Oath or other cards similar to it, and watch as your opponents scramble to win knowing that is their last turn before losing Asceticism + Dismiss Into Dream = The Simic Laser gun, keep your defenses up while using Asceticism's Activated ability to target your opponent's creatures Grip of Chaos

[@Aaarrrgh89]

Also Notion Thief.

[@JimboMonkey007]

“I want them for science” - DJ *Proceeds to build a chaos deck with all aforementioned cards**

[@dakotamcintire7419]

I could get a lot of these to work in a muldrotha deck XD

[@OGTahoe3]

@@dakotamcintire7419 I had that same exact thought

[@andrewsparkes8829]

If you are forming the result you WANT in a science experiment, it is not a proper science experiment. Science needs a little uncontrolled chaos to see what the result ends up being, even if it is whacky.

[@claineplummer3421]

Bro this dope! Love your passion for the format. Keep up the Awesome!!!

[@rorykitchen2727]

Sphinx is a may so they don't need to draw. Thanks for showing these fun cards off!

[@rorykitchen2727]

@Samuel Friedman I gotcha, I thought he meant the other way around and I was lost.

[@saltinegaming9348]

How dare DJ put such a legendary card as divine intervention on that list. That card is awesome and I would love to draw any day. I even built a Zur deck that has that as its tie con.

[@JumboCommander]

Biggest troll card! Although technically a draw ... we all know who really won the game.

[@saltinegaming9348]

Jumbo Commander I’ve played a lot of games with it on mtgo and people get PISSED. “It’s just game, why you hav to be mad?” (Russian guy)

[@Joshy_369]

I had mind twist in Nath of the Gilt-leaf. Super satisfying to see the fear in the blue player's eyes when I ask how many cards they have in their hand.

[@JumboCommander]

AND you get a bunch of adorable elves?!?! The best kind of secure the wastes

[@becausescience]

You have my attention... -- kH

[@Dumplestiltzken]

Perplexing Chimera is my favorite way to slow the game to a halt

[@salamanteri_]

That chimera is gross in a Roon deck.

[@EvanFarshadow]

I put it in my Estrid deck and my favorite strategy is stealing the most useful spell, then following up with the "destroy all creatures that aren't enchanted" card. Because my creatures are all enchanted and i do not enchant chimera ever, it dies. Just play spells that do not care who casts it

[@mikeshaver-miller745]

Fun fact: Tidal control has a few best friends in blue instants that allow you to change any instance on one colour word with another. Oftentimes, these effects don’t end at EOT, so if you pair that with the knowledge of whatever your opponents are playing, you can shut down players selectively.

[@professor.moriarty9803]

1. Wit's End, mono black sorcery, one of my favorite card that does"Im just here to ruin your day instead of winning" 2. Artifact called "World Slayer", attach it on Zurgo… 3. Run Phenax in a Scarab God Deck, i don't want you to use your shit, so I'll use it for you 4. Atraxa, nothing to say about this bitch… 5. Assemble the legion ＋ Divine Visitation

[@KZcovers]

Possessed portal is one of my favorite cards in daretti. 3 turns of wrecking opponents resources, then sacking it on my turn to bring it back with daretti after I've had my draw and turn

[@brandonsolorio9168]

DragonKyng Z when I saw it I was like “yea that’s going In daretti” no one is ready for daretti

[@charlieaydin1377]

My man. I just bought it for my daretti deck. Takes a certain evil to play daretti Stax 🙂

[@crovax1375]

I love Cabal Conditioning, especially in my Nath of the Gilt-Leaf deck. I also like Thought Distortion for when you need to stop a blue mage

[@leaf_lorien679]

Brutal. Definitely going to be including some of these in my EDH de ks

[@moxavenger]

I got three, Axis of Mortality, Magus of the Mirror and Soul Conduit. Entertaining video as always. Thanks!

[@philippbayer866]

Oh hearing your laughs with every evil card you show is entertaining.

[@DavSnow]

Such a spicy list DJ! This was both educational and traumatizing

[@xcver]

I just love Invoke Prejudice, although I would say that Land Equilibrium is even meaner

[@Donaldsangry]

Team that with Sunder

[@PhazonOmega]

Time Sifter triggers during EVERY upkeep, including those during extra turns, and that's why turns essentially become random, and unlucky players will never get a turn. Just a clarification for anyone confused by this, as I was. Definitely interesting when combined with any other extra turn effects, such as Emrakul, Time Warp, or even something like Mind Slaver.

[@boxingpanda4757]

4:18 if they're playing mono white in commander, just let them be. They're having bad enough of a time as it is

[@l0k]

Board State from last Friday: Invoke Prejudice, 2x Nether Voids, the Abyss. Fun times!

[@GrundysGames]

I actually have an Invoke Prejudice, a little beat up, but still works. Might toss it into my new Emry mono-blue deck lol.

[@danieldonaldson744]

Keep in mind that your colorless artifacts don't help your opponents. Their artifact creatures will always cost twice as much!

[@commander_k7748]

I watched this and I realized I play at least half of these. This includes divine intervention

[@CullenReck]

Omg the joy in your voice throughout this whole video 😭😂

[@malign3158]

I pulled an Hour or Devastation Sunder invocation (and shatterstorm and omniscience) and I have it in a fun nonblack landfall deck along with Fall of the Thran, both of which I’ve only cast once

[@theXDeity]

You’re the best DJ thanks for all that you do, i can’t wait to have your playmat!

[@magpie1353]

Ever seen mana breach? 2U “whenever any player plays a spell, that player returns a land he or she controls to owner’s hand.”

[@KBgamer2010]

Storm Cauldron, Tapping lands for mana will be bounced

[@Basap1zti23]

Desolation. Whenever a player taps a land for mana in each turn he/she has to sacrifice a land in the next end step.

[@PhazonOmega]

Seen it? I have two copies :3

[@viniciusgrossmann8796]

Mana vortex: At the beginning of each player's upkeep, that player sacrifices a land.

[@kwikdraw7332]

Price of Glory 2R Enchantment Whenever a player taps a land for mana during another player's turn, destroy that land.

[@Hijunk71]

Notion Thief and teferi's puzzle box make me all warm and fuzzie

[@mzondi1970]

I can see that timesifter would go well in my eldrazi deck

[@spartanboosts]

I'm about to put all these cards in a group hug deck

[@facelessgames94]

DJ thank you so much. I'm looking to "improve" my Jhoira of the Ghitu deck and I want all the mean stuff in there, but to counterbalance the cruelty, I'm chucking in a bunch of chaos spells, such as my beloved Timesifter. (Vegas time baby) Ice Cave too! Goodluck countering my high CMC spells Possessed portal is working well in my Muldrotha deck simply because, I don't have to draw any cards. They're in the graveyard ready to play. Thanks for the video. Really great timing :)

[@APSejuani]

Holy shit, Tidal Control! I never thought I'd see it on a top 10 list, but it's an absolute monster in Chisei!

[@roger18975smith]

Tidal Control + Brago: Reset the cumulative upkeep each turn.🤣

[@andrewamann8855]

I'll do ya one better: Tidal Control and Solemnity. Then you can just use brago for other things.

[@fallenwayward]

uh guys, painter's servant is legal in commander now...

[@anthonydelfino6171]

or you just play Eon Hub....

[@jakeapplegate6642]

Muldrotha can recast it from the graveyard so you can have a flat rate upkeep instead of cumulative.

[@professor.moriarty9803]

Ever heard something called "Detain"?

[@wolfie766]

Also Thanks Dj, Currently building a deck with most of these cards in it with Alela at the helm..found a purpose for her xD

[@NRGFL0]

How can you have a list of mean cards without mentioning: Winter Orb, Stasis, and Smokestack? They are like the poster children of mean cards

[@xarshoon7157]

Proliferate and Tanglewire

[@darkdragonXD1]

DJ, love you so much to bring me new ideas to my decks, invoke prejudice sounds to me like "Ugh!", people gonna love it. Already have Zur's Weirding but also have an idea to play it with Emry.

[@JumboCommander]

Totally has that ugh factor on so many levels! Effect, pricetag, art! Truly an uuuuuuuuggppppfffttt card.

[@darkdragonXD1]

@@JumboCommander Holy sht that was fast, more videos like this pls, I have to grow to make the world and "Ugh" place :D

[@JumboCommander]

This video is doing well but I did a lot of research on these so a part two would not be as mean lololol, but more top 8 lists for sure

[@darkdragonXD1]

@@JumboCommander My mean soul is crying :/

[@belladonnaRoot]

I do have Armageddon in my Avacyn, Angel of Hope deck. The idea is that my lands are indestructible once my commander's out, so it's a one-sided game-ender, not a stall tactic. Is it mean to have a "everyone scoop and let's play again" card?

[@Squidxx-fg7ih]

I think it's fine used to do the same thing with obliterate and world slayer in my zurgo helmsmasher deck

[@faultier1158]

I had such a deck once, but it was basically the arch enemy by design, because everyone could see what was coming. Hitting people with an Avacyn equipped by a Worldslayer was a pretty cool way to win games though. :D

[@scooterthefrog]

As long as you use it responsibly to win games it's fine. Cataclysm and It That Betrays is also a fun way to pull that sort of thing off.

[@corvidcognition]

Love this list I have used Zur's Weirding in my Niv Mizzet deck where I draw lots of cards. Make them pay life! And when everyone has had enough negotiate it's destruction for some favours !

[@FunAtStreaming]

As a player who plays Zur's Weirding in his Muldrothe EDH, i can confirm it's one hell of a card.

[@Deathmageddon]

On Invoke Prejudice: Art doesn’t always depict things you’re supposed to be happy about. There’s nothing wrong with drawing villains. It is, however, highly immoral to run Meekstone.

[@inkyo7538]

Frickin' love "Zur's Weirding"! Trying to make it work with "Jace, Wielder of Secrets" and "Mindcrank" in an Oathbreaker

[@alexcurtis6180]

I'd argue that Cyclonic Rift is the meanest card in Commander. Also, Possessed Portal is amazing in Muldrotha.

[@danieldonaldson744]

As long as creatures are sorceries attached to permanents it will never compete with some of these.

[@hiddenleaf414]

Works really well in Yuriko too

[@Jay15199]

"Do you want to be a horrible person, on a budget, without offensive art on your Commander deck?" No DJ, no I do not.

[@orlandopereira5467]

Mindslaver. Cause there's nothing meaner than taking control of another player!

[@thesarcasticliberal]

Mindslaver + Emry, Lurker of the Loch + Wilderness Reclamation makes people very unhappy. Once you hit 6 mana, you control every future turn of a single opponent.

[@stens.8394]

@@thesarcasticliberal or just play muldrotha and ramp to mindslaver much easier.

[@VampCoffee]

I got hit with a cycled decree of annihilation yesterday. That was pretty mean.

[@taylormatic]

Still better the a cast Decree of Annihilation

[@f2pgamer491]

Resolves... is always my favorite part of your videos lol

[@vapixdarmana4428]

I personally like the art on invoke prejudice, very flavorful.

[@backlashX7]

Thank you, this is the first comment I've seen regarding the situation of this card that isn't out right biased. I'm not going to condone the artist's personal beliefs; but at least he chose a thematic art piece which, by visual example, brings attention to the real life history of forcing hardships on others of a different color, thusly fitting the card's premise in the process. Thank you for bearing with my unpopular opinion Ted talk.

[@PatriciaCross]

Sunder is my usual wincon in Tatyova. I can win through LabMan....but the games over on Sunder. Usually endstep Cyclonic Rift, Sunder on my turn, Mana Breach. I have never lost with this deck. Currently only pull it out a few times a month.

[@jaymorgan3433]

Vorinclex. Vorinclex. Vorinclex. I hate this card. Vorinclex. Vorinclex. 😂😂😂😂😂 Good vid Jumbo!! 😄

[@87channels]

Other than the sp00ky $350 card, I might actually build a deck around some of these! I already got a group slug Mogis deck, so might as well go all in

[@lumenauta]

Obliteration is a favorite of mine...combine it with a Darksteel Plate to be kicked out of the table

[@typoholic]

Love the idea for this video. I can tell you did your homework. It must have been fun! I think we can add Chains of Mephistopheles, Contamination, and Reality Twist to the Mean List. If you ever do a “Most Confusing” List, let’s put Raging River somewhere near the top. The way that card is worded is incomprehensible.

[@falc0n12]

Mark Jelfo I swear I have to re-read chains every time someone plays it

[@typoholic]

@@falc0n12 Right? I still don’t know what it does.

[@gitaxias]

Dear dj, We don't want to be mean, we want to be chaotic

[@zwc76]

Head Games 3BB, "Target opponent puts the cards from their hand on top of their library. Search that player's library for that many cards. The player puts those cards into their hand, then shuffles their library". Enjoy your new hand of basics.

[@92bagder]

Invoke Prejudice is the Capirote; a pointed religious hood used in Spain during the Inquisition and still used in festivals by religious orders.

[@rowanernst]

I use the enchantment ‘contamination’ from urza’s saga in my monoblack rat deck which is just a feels bad for anyone without alot of mana dorks or isnt in black

[@motorologist]

If you look up Invoke Prejudice on gatherer, the top comment talks about the artist and his art for the card. Yes, it's a random guy on the internet, but trust me, his description of the card's artist is worth reading.

[@KyokenX20]

How have I never hear of Time sifter til now?!?!! I'm getting one

[@migerick]

I really like Knowledge Pool and Possibility Storm

[@CastonAdrulu]

my first guess at one of these 8 might be sire of insanity. because everyone likes to discard their hand at every end step. heh.

[@JumboCommander]

Close. I do have some spicy discard on here.

[@Will_Morand]

Sunder in an Urza deck where you already have all the rocks.

[@shadowphoenix173]

Its a bit mean but its a geat feeling when you windfall and then flash out a notion thief ^^

[@TheApocalypticsaint]

The collective glare from a well timed winter orb

[@lonsmithicus]

I play Tidal Control and Invoke Prejudice and Zur's Weirding in my mono blue deck.

[@DarkCrusader27]

One of the meanest discard cards I know of is Monomania. Yes, force your opponent to choose the card they want to keep while they discard the rest.

[@AsbestosFilter]

There is someone in my playgroup who use invoke prejudice in his dexk but i never see it being played because he rarely play. But when he play edh, it always end up with nobody could play anything

[@yeahyeahyeah0yeah]

I play possessed portal in my Muldrotha deck... I do love it, in the most evil of ways

[@durakku]

I really love Death Cloud when I'm about to die as a last ditch effort to either try to take someone with me or just ruin the rest if everyone else's game for killing me.

[@EvanFarshadow]

Divine Intervention is separated from the remove a counter at upkeep. Does that mean if at any point it has no counters it is game over? *Thinks evilly in Solemnity*

[@lepromisedmonke7012]

Once got out Ice Caves and smothering tithe out on the same turn and then passed the turn as the madness ensued...😂

[@xarshoon7157]

Thanks for the ideas man

[@SPQRchris]

Sen Triplets is pretty nasty. “No, you can’t play any spells on my turn, but I can play your cards.”

[@TheFixer710]

That invoke prejudice card would be funny in an urza deck. I am surprised vorinclex wasn't on the list

[@PhazonOmega]

Tutoring is not card draw, so it gets around Zur's Weirding and Notion Thief. Also, Brainstorm does not combo with Notion Thief, either, since it causes the caster to draw, not "target player."

[@rdbaron102]

Knowledge pool can be mean. Also Moat with Gravity Sphere is fun. I have the old mask-nought combo in one too

[@thelocustgod9098]

I actually run Zur’s Weirding in my Crosis deck lol.

[@MrKennethb83]

Haaa that was fantastic!!! I a cave cracks me up!

[@oriongerlach6390]

My inner Evil Maniac is cackling

[@jamesknowles9236]

I think Storm Cauldron should be on this list because it's a mean card disguised as a nice card. "hey guys, everyone gets to play a extra land each turn...oh, but when you tap lands for mana they get bounced back to your hand." Can really slow down the game if people aren't running tons of mana rocks or mana dorks.

[@skylinedude951]

I play zurs weirding in my scarab god deck. Its great because if they discard my car I just bring it back and if he dies he goes back to my hand lol or better I can make my opposite discard there creatures and take them lol oh and did I mention he drains my opponents life faster. Hahaha

[@theelike4302]

Top cards to get you kicked out of a playgroup. Also notion thief with Forced Fruition or everyone wheel effects. ❤ Also also that ice cave looks great for Kenrith from the new set.

[@Bluecho4]

I can't be the first person who thought "Ice Cave + Chromatic Lantern". Make Chromatic Blue a thing, absolutely shut out all opponents.

[@suelouis9852]

invoke isn't even the harshest blue card in that set, Land Equilibrium is. I like to pair it with another harold mcneil card from the same set, Nether Void, which i respond too with Sunder.

[@Simsystwistedmind]

Asceticism is pretty nasty, it gives all of your stuff hexproof and regeneration meaning that your opponents need to waste board wipes to deal with single threats.

[@Dubi264]

Thanks for reminding me to put zur’s weirding in my life gain deck. Lol

[@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299]

Rhystic Study, Sadistic Sacrament (I love pulling off the kicker and exiling 15 cards from there deck, not only do you see there deck but remove tutors, key combo cards, etc..). Timeshifter might be solid in my Xenagos stompy. LOL My buddy did that with Notion Thief and Consecrated Sphinx, we let them take the play back since the game had barely begun:P #FBLTHP

[@Darthnova-rd9nk]

I always thought that invoke prejudice was a 30 dollar card because two players in my play group own full play set of it

[@thelowcalcalzone]

Anybody know the image used for the background?

[@lorvincent]

Ice Cave is an easy slot in Mishra, Artificer Prodigy. Mishra remains one of the meanest decks in commander. Especially if you aren't limited by your budget (Nether Void, anyone?).

[@SmugLookingBarrel]

You'll basically never see this card, since it's a hot 2500 dollars, but that doesn't stop it from being one of the meanest cards in all of commander *The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale* Legendary land All creatures have "At the beginning of your upkeep, destroy this creature unless you pay 1"

[@thesarcasticliberal]

Personally, I just like to Stasis + Wilderness Reclamation + Ghostly Prison people, then stall the game to the point where I am able to win with an Approach of the Second Sun. The rage is real...