Civilization 7 is CHANGING FAITH & RELIGION!

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JumboPixel

JumboPixel

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@TheSilael
@TheSilael Ай бұрын
"Majapahit" will always remind me of "History of The Entire World, I Guess" by Bill Wurtz.
@Descriptor413
@Descriptor413 Ай бұрын
Ding!
@TheWagonroast
@TheWagonroast Ай бұрын
Mapajahit
@cadenvanvalkenburg6718
@cadenvanvalkenburg6718 Ай бұрын
Something I thought would be cool and fairly historical is if each settlement could pick a unique pantheon/god, since each pantheon is closer to an individual god in Civ 5-7 anyways in antiquity. This would reflect the more local and patronage based gods that a lot of faiths had. Then, when you form a religion you can either choose to keep those gods and merge them for a polytheistic religion, keeping weaker versions of all their buffs, or choose to favor one specific god and develop into a monotheistic religion, losing the more diverse beliefs each city had in exchange for a far stronger buff in favor of one particular path. I feel like that would be a really cool way to represent how most religions actually developed.
@rdm3990
@rdm3990 Ай бұрын
Good idea!
@kitchentablepolemicist1663
@kitchentablepolemicist1663 20 күн бұрын
I could see that as an option, but I can also see how that would be much harder to implement. Perhaps by the time CIV VIII rolls around, we will have the computing power to make this feasible.
@BoydofZINJ
@BoydofZINJ Ай бұрын
the only two questions on anyone's mind: 1. Will Civ 7 let us pick Gandhi ? 2. Will Gandhi get access to enhanced nuclear weapons ?
@elihall6480
@elihall6480 Ай бұрын
YES
@starfox300
@starfox300 Ай бұрын
The AI never uses nuclear weapons
@birkuru
@birkuru Ай бұрын
Gandhi has not yet been announced as the civ 7 leader
@BoydofZINJ
@BoydofZINJ Ай бұрын
@birkuru which is why the 2 questions are: 1. Will Civ 7 let us pick Gandhi? And 2. Will Gandhi get access to enhanced nuclear weapons?
@anabee8310
@anabee8310 Ай бұрын
Of course. Us fan base will put up with any changes, much as we grumble, any number of release day bugs, any predatory dlc business model, but DO NOT TAKE AWAY OUR GHANDI NUKES MEME
@evonannoredars
@evonannoredars Ай бұрын
I like how theyve aimed to make civ less eurocentric in most ways, but it's a shame they've not changed the very Christian model of religion with missionaries, relics and converting everyone else to your religion. It'd be neat if you could make religions with different 'goals' beside converting everyone to your religion, ie ones which instead focus on keeping your religion strong in your own city.
@providence160
@providence160 Ай бұрын
You’re wrong? Missionaries aren’t inherent to Christianity. It’s just often associated because missionary is the English term and England is Christian historically. Also, you can make religion with other win conditions? It’s just meaning that religion itself isn’t your win con? What you’re asking for is absurd.
@eunomiac
@eunomiac Ай бұрын
If a religion doesn't spread, it dies. The history of religion is defined by how effectively they spread and capture the minds of new believers --- the measure of religion's impact on other elements of society (as Civ VII is addressing) likewise depends on how prominently a religion has spread: how many believers it has. That being said, it would be entirely possible for a specific civilization to come along with a unique rule or mechanic that offers what you're describing (because I don't think it's a bad idea, it's just not an issue of eurocentrism) -- think the Congo or even India in Civ VI, but with more of an impact, perhaps by changing the metric by which religious strength or success is measured (e.g. "lack of followers of opposing religions" instead of "followers", as one example)
@Sheepmanthegoat1
@Sheepmanthegoat1 Ай бұрын
Maybe they should change missionaries to jihadists for a fresh new take!
@craig_z
@craig_z Ай бұрын
I found religion so tedious in Civ 6 that I always turned it off as a victory condition. Some improvements it seems here, but I remain dubious.
@Isengardtom
@Isengardtom Ай бұрын
Agreed. At lest it’s limited to exploration age only
@Deadknight67
@Deadknight67 Ай бұрын
Same for me. I hate Religion in 6, also the fact that religious unit ignore closed borders. I 100% always disable it as a victory condition.
@charlesajones77
@charlesajones77 Ай бұрын
Not that I tried that many times, but I was never able to win a religious victory in Civ 6. I always gave up towards the end and just won by science or culture instead.
@toasty.wombat
@toasty.wombat 2 күн бұрын
​@@charlesajones77Except culture victory in civ6 is awful. It's literally just spam national parks, tourism wonders, acquire great works via great people, spam rock bands, and then wait for an imaginary number to go up. It's the most boring victory by far. At least with religion you have to do something on the map even if the win condition is just a different flavor of domination
@spike9927
@spike9927 Ай бұрын
Really like the look of religion here being tied into the culture victory and also areas of the domination victory, it always felt strange having it standalone and feels good having it intertwined with variable different playthroughs. Only nitpick being the text/effect when you spread your religion (around 8:13) with a missionary looks so cheap! Hopefully a placeholder for now.
@yet_another_tobi
@yet_another_tobi Ай бұрын
Nice the Mapajahit are in the game Oh uhhhm Mahapajit Ma Ja Pa Hit?
@eunomiac
@eunomiac Ай бұрын
That's one element of the three-Age split I hadn't considered --- that they can use each Age to focus on different elements of gameplay, rather than having them all crammed in together competing for attention throughout the whole game. I really like that religion plays a central role in multiple victory conditions throughout the Exploration Age, because that maps very well onto real history. It will be interesting to see what they do with the Modern Age considering this will allow them to focus on tropes of modern civilization (without also having major religious influences to worry about, as one example)
@mr.vercotti9509
@mr.vercotti9509 Ай бұрын
God this game looks great but they really have to put some attention to those leaders and icons 😭
@anabee8310
@anabee8310 Ай бұрын
*cries in adhd*
@danielhendricks7604
@danielhendricks7604 16 сағат бұрын
Hope we see a return of a Free Religion / Religious Tolerance model. Only like one in five actual countries today have an official state religion and it's one of those areas where more recent Civ games feel regressive relative to previous games where you could just nope out of an official religion once your country became developed enough.
@danielw5466
@danielw5466 Ай бұрын
It would be cool if the religions you can pick from have some unique things about them. I would like to see accurate religious architecture for each one. And i dont know how they would implement it but imagine you could make vatican city if you have catholicism as a sort of city state. Maybe they are ways to make religious gameplay unique like that.
@charlesajones77
@charlesajones77 Ай бұрын
Has anyone ever actually won a religious victory in Civ 6? I sure couldn't do it. Every time I tried I eventually said "screw it" and won by culture or science instead.
@exalot0622
@exalot0622 Ай бұрын
Im curious why they dont implement a religions character. So you can have pantheons/beliefs that encourage you to dominate the world, and those pantheons would shape your culture that way. Alternatively, you can have Buddhism like religions that encourage you to persue peace from within, making your culture more scientific.
@kondzic95
@kondzic95 Ай бұрын
i really hope religion is not too anoying with hyper aggressiv ai...
@TheMarcHicks
@TheMarcHicks Ай бұрын
Whilst its a minor quibble, I really wish they'd rename "Altar" to "Shrine". It sounds so much more.....grand to me.
@rudequartz
@rudequartz Ай бұрын
Really? Altar sounds grander to me than shrine.
@TheMarcHicks
@TheMarcHicks Ай бұрын
@rudequartz when I think Altar, I just think of a single "table" for religious observance. When I think Shrine, I think of a whole building constructed around that altar. Look at the Shrine building in Civilization VI to see what I am referring to.
@DustinMulligan-w9b
@DustinMulligan-w9b Ай бұрын
@@TheMarcHicks how about pulpit? sanctum? reliquary? sanctuary? hehe. I like the sound of Altar over Shrine, it's more aurally pleasing to me.
@colewarner4954
@colewarner4954 15 күн бұрын
I really dislike the idea of everybody getting a religion. As a civ 5 player, I think the limit on religions: 1) The tough choice presented by the opportunity cost early in the game for getting a religion. Maybe you value a wonder over a shrine, or a growth/prod/culture pantheon early. Always presented an interesting choice 2) Adds a lot to diplomacy, i.e. befriending certain civs to benefit from their religious tenants, etc. Even going against AI, many of my “best” religious/piety games involved not taking a religion (Cuz impossible on piety), cuz say I initially was spread a religion with pagodas, but then later gave open borders to another civ who had production + Jesuit education. You could still get tremendous benefit from religion without having to sacrifice early game, and I always thought that was very interesting way to play that I think if completely removed when everybody can get their own religion. I imagine it will be near impossible to spread your religion to other civs. 3) I think religion was pretty great in civ 5, I would stick to that model, the only complaint would be to limit the AI’s spreading of religion. Cuz they clearly just spent all their faith on missionaries even when it made no sense to, and I swear on diety their missionaries are like 4x stronger than yours.
@captainnomekop5056
@captainnomekop5056 12 күн бұрын
You don’t have to take a religion, as it’s still a race to get the best benefits, way I see it this change allows people who passed on a religion early to still be able to shift their strategy later if the opportunity arises.
@tl1758
@tl1758 Ай бұрын
Did hate to have to control dozens of missionaries and apostles and fight with them others by them blowing lightnings of their fingers as the emperor in starwars... they should change that to thunderbolts out of their arse... ;)
@markhaessler4395
@markhaessler4395 Ай бұрын
ugh, so they're keeping the main thing I disliked about civ6 religion, the manual moving about and managing of missionaries. That's disappointing, ah well.
@0002pA
@0002pA Ай бұрын
One of the first mods will be removing that everybody can found a religion and holy cities can be converted. And I will install that mod ASAP.
@Smilemonster1912
@Smilemonster1912 Ай бұрын
I dont see what the problem with allowing everyone to found a religion, however the holy city thing is annoying.
@0002pA
@0002pA Ай бұрын
@@Smilemonster1912 It simply waters it down. There will be less of a race to found your own religion.
@Smilemonster1912
@Smilemonster1912 Ай бұрын
@@0002pA There is a religious race regardless of whether everyone can found a religion or not. In terms of realism founding a religion quite late into the game is actually historically accurate, e.g. Mormonism.
@0002pA
@0002pA Ай бұрын
@@Smilemonster1912 I don't care too much about realism.
@dlandon2000
@dlandon2000 Ай бұрын
Never liked how religion worked in 6. Dumb that only certain number of religions can exist and that those religions never splinter. Utterly absurd given historical reality. Should also get much bigger benefits from secular societies later in the game
@JohnSmith-ik8nt
@JohnSmith-ik8nt Ай бұрын
Secular societies don't exist
@chrism7395
@chrism7395 Ай бұрын
1:30 Michael Stipe: nooooo!
@anabee8310
@anabee8310 Ай бұрын
That's him in the corner
@rizaldard3835
@rizaldard3835 Ай бұрын
Borobudur doesn't built adjacent to coast... 😅
@db6842
@db6842 Ай бұрын
Thx
@pac1841
@pac1841 Ай бұрын
looks good but holy cities being unable to be converted is lame. It was always fun converting other civilizations to your religion fully.
@kylenetherwood8734
@kylenetherwood8734 Ай бұрын
It doesn't make any sense. It's like Rome still being Pagan.
@ninjafrozr8809
@ninjafrozr8809 Ай бұрын
I think a holy city cannot be converted only when the original Civ still owns the city. If you conquer it, surely you can convert it.
@castanzofranzman2013
@castanzofranzman2013 Ай бұрын
Oh no the bot(s) are here Love the content can’t wait for civ 7. Civ 6 is the only civ game I can play looking forward to the switch up
@blueflame5975
@blueflame5975 Ай бұрын
What if you’re a bot tho
@MiguelBaptista1981
@MiguelBaptista1981 Ай бұрын
@@blueflame5975 What if you're a bot ?
@blueflame5975
@blueflame5975 Ай бұрын
@@MiguelBaptista1981what if I am?
@craig_z
@craig_z Ай бұрын
@@blueflame5975 Maybe we're all bots and we just don't know it!
@MunchKING
@MunchKING Ай бұрын
@@craig_z Domo Arigato, Mr. Roboto.
@joemasso9473
@joemasso9473 Ай бұрын
I hoped some beliefs would be tied to a religion. To give them a stronger identity.
@arzentvm
@arzentvm Ай бұрын
ahh yes the civ 7 comment section experience.
@ertnyot784
@ertnyot784 Ай бұрын
Kinda wish there was a non-religious option. Maybe a religious tolerance option that you could build towards.
@MS-tm2yz
@MS-tm2yz Ай бұрын
I dont like being forced to play a game within their parameters, I want the freedom to play my way. Targets wont work for me.
@czechmeoutbabe1997
@czechmeoutbabe1997 Ай бұрын
I know that it's quite niche, but does "Not losing your own religion in your holy city, ever" mean that you can't choose to make full use of other players' religions? I thought it was quite neat that a fellow player could make a good religious combo and you could sort of adopt it if you liked the benefits too and didn't want your own
@Mothlinger
@Mothlinger Ай бұрын
I'm so excited for this game, but still so worried that the separation of leaders from their own historical civs will ultimately water down the entire experience, or introduce massive amounts of meta-gaming, forcing you to always pick certain rulers with certain civs to largely remain relevant throughout the game.... Humankind was really plagued by this...and playing as some late medieval Spanish queen when picking the Maya or Han China just seems a bit incohesive. Still hoping for the best, got a lot of good times out of Humankind, but I guess it was too much to hope that they would revert back more to the style of CIV V
@bowserplaylist899
@bowserplaylist899 Ай бұрын
I was hoping we had more options to reduce/remove religion. it looks like its too maincore now, unavoidable.
@baconboy12
@baconboy12 Ай бұрын
Civilisation 7 will release before cities skylines 2 has anymore updates
@stephencook567
@stephencook567 Ай бұрын
Will be playing as Russia. Will convert the world to Orthodoxy. ☦☦☦☦☦
@Morgotth1916
@Morgotth1916 Ай бұрын
Some of it look's preetty good and intersting , sadly they ****ed it up by civ switching and the three mini games . Hopefully keep some idea's to transfer over to Civ 8
@ProphetXYZ
@ProphetXYZ Ай бұрын
All the features available after the 3rd DLC. No thanks.
@thomasmueller77911
@thomasmueller77911 Ай бұрын
they broke the game in three parts... im so disappointed. :/
@SlickAndroid17
@SlickAndroid17 Ай бұрын
2:16 pretty lame they don’t have Asatru or any other pagan/heathen faith
@blueflame5975
@blueflame5975 Ай бұрын
It looks like a 5 year old went on to Microsoft paint and spent 10 minutes on this GUI
@Ram-xr5uj
@Ram-xr5uj Ай бұрын
It looks awful
@lohgavin239
@lohgavin239 Ай бұрын
they should add in customizable cosmetic option for UI. However to me, i think the simpler the UI the better
@darkemperor418
@darkemperor418 Ай бұрын
Can’t wait for sukritact ui mod
@Neberheim
@Neberheim Ай бұрын
They did spend 10 minutes, it’s always the last thing to get finished, after the gameplay is locked down
@starfox300
@starfox300 Ай бұрын
No way bro, you're just mad because it's different
@HD-pc4id
@HD-pc4id Ай бұрын
Listen Trans Julius Ceasar Make it happen Bigots!
@MiguelBaptista1981
@MiguelBaptista1981 Ай бұрын
:,-(
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