The FE engine has its own sound and I'm a huge fan of them! You guys did an awesome job finding HP on this build!
@OehlJim4 жыл бұрын
I love seeing old FE engines show their worth!
@briandady90304 жыл бұрын
Yeah man!
@billashe21084 жыл бұрын
@ LOL
@Luke-tm5oy4 жыл бұрын
@Dave Micolichekman fes are great engines and run forever and can make a good bit of power was also the power plant on most ford muscle cars
@TheBb6prelude4 жыл бұрын
@ my stock bottom end NA Honda was running 12.5 1/4 mile full interior. Honda jokes are played out in 2020. We have AWD k swap turbo Hondas that will kill nearly anything on the streets from a dig.
@cornelius63042 жыл бұрын
@@TheBb6prelude a stock f250 with a 6.4 diesel and a Spartan 350 tune in 4x4 will kill you from a dig. Honda’s are slow.
@zaneturner44782 жыл бұрын
As someone who has done machine work my whole life I have always always checked for cracks on everything after cleaning and before doing any kind of machine work. I started doing this when I was 17 and now at 65 I have never done it any other way. Every head or block or crankshaft it didn't matter. And yes I have found a few crankshafts through the years that were cracked. If they bought in intakes for cleaning I even checked them. You never know what the circumstances were as far as the history of the parts were.
@HotRodReverend2 жыл бұрын
It baffles me why these guys on a nationally TV show would even think about doing anything to cylinder bores or the rest of the block without magging it first... makes you wonder.
@bigkellyg59474 жыл бұрын
That was one of your best builds. You actually looked like you were trying to build a Ford with some enthusiasm. Results were awesome. Like to see a 428 built and a 427 side oiler, with Lemans heads, and intake. Love to see a Shelby spec 427 used in the GT-40.
@jfruser4 жыл бұрын
Before there were software and computer nerds, there were automotive nerds. Love it.
@Scrubworks3 жыл бұрын
The two overlap heavily these days.
@YARCHLRL4 жыл бұрын
Not only is it fun to watch these two, but, I love the passion in Pat. You can honestly see the "little kid" in him when he builds... TRUE GOAT show hosts.. Theses guys and Tommy are the only thing keeping me watching.
@guyneeser20294 ай бұрын
Man I needed you guys 18 years ago when I had napa rebuild my 390. All I was able to do was Street avenger holly 4 Barrel and Dual plane Elderbrock intake and headers . I learned a lot but it had no more power than before!!!! It was fun messing around with it. But Not worth it!
@bradyelich27454 жыл бұрын
Mom drove a 1964 Tbird convertable as a daily driver, and Mom did not drive slow. I reminded her that I almost died of fever in 1980 from the measles. Mom threw me into the Tbird, drove 100 mph on gravel, to the hospital, threw me into alcohol bath. 390 all the way baby.
@bradyelich27454 жыл бұрын
@@bigboreracing356 No, we would have to stop because of cracked heads from overheating. Ford heads do not crack.
@PeggyParrow8 ай бұрын
This is a lesson for all of us engine builders, clean, then mag before machining !
@invertedpolarity68904 жыл бұрын
You guys are really putting those sell-outs at Engine Masters to shame. Good job 👍 and thanks!
@andrewmontgomery17634 жыл бұрын
Are you referring to the MotorTrend show Engine Masters?
@backyardbuilttrucks14 жыл бұрын
Yes they are , but steve at west tech is a super nice guy.
@dross85804 жыл бұрын
Stupid comment
@randomprojectsusa51964 жыл бұрын
Idk man, papi freiburger is pretty lit
@anthonypritchard77104 жыл бұрын
Someone is upset they can’t afford the 5 bucks a month MT.
@CrazyPetez4 жыл бұрын
It’s nice to see an old Ford FE getting the treatment and putting out big numbers.
@johnmeyerhoffer70292 жыл бұрын
The wild one all the
@johnmeyerhoffer70292 жыл бұрын
up and down U.S 89
@ardennielsen37614 жыл бұрын
5:00 zinc bolt in the water port, to help slow down corrosion/rusting inside the block.
@danielemmons35134 жыл бұрын
@Michael Madden Funny you can place zinc anodes on ships, bridges and steel docks it works just fine. So why wouldn't it work in this application.
@cwegga4 жыл бұрын
@@danielemmons3513 It would probably need to be attached firmly to the block to make a good electrical connection rather than just sitting there...If it was even made of zinc. Zinc bolts aren't made of zinc. They are zinc plated, so there isn't very much zinc in them.
@jeremymurphy73204 жыл бұрын
I've always like the 390 (or in this case a stroked 390) and the entire FE family. Underrated and undervalued unless it's a 427 or 428 which need no intro.
@VeryOddTimes4 жыл бұрын
Expensive to get it stroked out. Other than that, they have great torque and sound mean even stock. I have a cammed 390, and I absolutely love it. Out of commission at the moment though. FE’s are very stout.
@BrockGrimes4 жыл бұрын
@@VeryOddTimes Drop in a 428 crank to bump it up to the old 410 spec, man what a TQ monster those were, to bad they only made em for a couple years.
@alanhardman24474 жыл бұрын
@@BrockGrimes - Yup, 1966 and 1967. Had one of each. One went into my '68 Torino GT Sportsroof where a 390 once lived. Worked really well with the wide-ratio toploader. Man, I miss that one!
@chetkirk66154 жыл бұрын
I'm new in the Automotive wold, now retired .I purchased a 1956 F-100 with a 351c .It runs hot with the original Radio when in traffic. Living on lift case, is there a recommended radio ? Cross flow electric fan combination .
@coache1nine4 жыл бұрын
@@BrockGrimes I want to put a 410 in a 65-56 Galaxie. Would be so much fun
@CJColvin4 жыл бұрын
Gotta love the Ford FE engines.
@Tsalinger4 жыл бұрын
If you like junk. Why clowns would put all that money and time into it is beyond me. 2 bolt mains cast crank pulling 600 hp that piece of junk should last about 20 minutes.
@Hondo762514 жыл бұрын
@@Tsalinger yeah man, "Just LS swap it!" Why would anyone want a built 390 in their galaxy 500... 🙄
@trythinking66764 жыл бұрын
Love them. Rebuilt a 360 into a 390 when I bought my F100. Thing could haul butt.
@CJColvin4 жыл бұрын
@@trythinking6676 A KZbinr Krankie V has a 66 F100 with a Cammed 390 FE and man it almost sounds like a NASCAR. Here's the Link below to see the videokzbin.info/www/bejne/jKqbp4CjrZmKhtU
@Hondo762514 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Probably hit the nail on the head. If for no other reason, there is a special sound that only an FE can make... No idea who these clowns are but THIS sound... lol kzbin.info/www/bejne/jYWwi2ikYqp6eas
@garycotham45464 жыл бұрын
I've always loved Ford FE V8's great engines and very durable .
@mitchfleming2744 жыл бұрын
390 Fords are an awesome engine, one of my favorites...and I am a MoPar guy.
@P71ScrewHead5 ай бұрын
Try the 460ci BBF, my favorite of all..
@Coronet_shop3 ай бұрын
@@P71ScrewHeadmeh
@P71ScrewHead3 ай бұрын
@Coronet_shop The 460ci BBF clearly beats the 390ci BBF, but build what you like.. I put a top end kit on my P71 4.6L 2v..lol
@Coronet_shop3 ай бұрын
@P71ScrewHead 460 would've a hard time against a 428 but cool 2v get a 4v though regret it myself
@P71ScrewHead3 ай бұрын
@Coronet_shop I'm already committed on the 2v, have the TFS 38cc top end, expensive..lol
@edwardmyers17464 жыл бұрын
"You know it's bad when the crank is lighter than the manifold" 😂😂😂
@doughibbard84624 жыл бұрын
Yep and it's one thing to pull that intake off while the engine sits on a stand. Pull it off while leaning over a fender and you will discover muscles you didn't know you had.
@victorparra42274 жыл бұрын
That happen to me when I replaced the iron intake on my camaro
@karlsmith25704 жыл бұрын
@@doughibbard8462 don't I know it Those iron manifolds are no joke, they may be stronger, but they're a pain in the arse to pull off if you've still got the engine in the vehicle when you're trying to remove the manifold from the engine block
@jasonsteelhorse4 жыл бұрын
@@doughibbard8462 I always used a cherry picker.
@JustMike27914 жыл бұрын
@@doughibbard8462 The first time I tried to lift a manifold was on an old truck 390 I was yanking to go in a racing mud buggy I was building, I strained so hard I farted and almost shit myself trying to lift it up and out. Good times.
@johnstratairious79362 ай бұрын
i would love to see this done to my 1965 ford thunderbird engine....its froze up currently...so...I'm going to have a rebuild done on it. great video.
@bobg30344 жыл бұрын
Great job! I love to see those old FE come to life!
@blackfender1004 жыл бұрын
I was a Tech for 40 years.Those old fords Looked Like that inside when i was 19 LOL
@unicornsteaks67694 жыл бұрын
When I took auto mechanics at a tech college, someone brought in an old F100 with a 302 for us to rebuild the motor. It had a piston being held together only by the cylinder. He drove it to the shop.
@BruceLee-xn3nn4 жыл бұрын
My mothers Pontiac firebird looked like that on inside of motor. It had an oil leak and she put dollar store brand oil in it. LOCKED it UP !
@heavylead19614 жыл бұрын
Quaker State
@WesternReloader4 жыл бұрын
An engines an engine. No builder is a brand purist, ever. Any engine can be built to make power, and every engine can be neglected
@JustMike27914 жыл бұрын
@@heavylead1961 FTF = For The Fail!!
@lsh3rd4 жыл бұрын
FE is the chemical symbol for iron... and this motor has a lot of it!
@johnkendall69624 жыл бұрын
Actually the FE is lighter than Chevy's and Chrysler big blocks of the same time frame.
@sandyshoremann75244 жыл бұрын
@@johnkendall6962 And a Caddy 500 is about 100 lbs lighter than the FE. about the same as a 350 Chevy with iron heads and intake. The FE is crying out for a Aluminum intake for sure! - Sandy
@drtb694 жыл бұрын
Actually an FE 390 with an aluminum intake and aluminum water pump weighs nearly the same as a 350 chevy...within 5 lbs... and I Remember losing money on that when I first started at the machine shop the old timers got me!
@GR-RadioSouthCarolina4 жыл бұрын
Go tigers
@carltrano13254 жыл бұрын
Hands down the best show KZbin. And the fact you build a 390 well that is near and dear to my heart. Was the first engine I ever built, and it was a ripper in my 70 torino👍
@413x3984 жыл бұрын
You swapped a 390 into a '70?
@jasoncummings17554 жыл бұрын
Great build! The Trick flow heads and intake are legit!
@Looptydude4 жыл бұрын
FE's are under appreciated. I would love this thing in a 70's F100/150 or a big boat Lincoln/Mercury.
@LtHawk774 жыл бұрын
Doing the same build for 64 Mercury Breezeway right now lol.
@jasonpoore73614 жыл бұрын
I just did a complete 390 ground up rebuild for my 1975 f100. I.m about 6k into the rebuild. Love it though.
@stevenmyers22522 жыл бұрын
@@jasonpoore7361 I have a 250 I want to rebuild a motor for and that price is what scares me. I feel like the same power could be had for a lot less with a Chevy :-(
@jasonpoore73612 жыл бұрын
@@stevenmyers2252 i had my block, line bored, punched .030 over, decked and rotating assembly balanced and it cost $1960. And i put the block together, with new rods, high compression flat top pistons, high vol oil pump, comp cam double roller chain, voodoo cam and lifters, edelbrock rpm alumn heads and intake, HEI distributer, 1 wire alt, Headman comp series headers, high torque starter, and block is studded. Running a 3core alumn radiator, two 12in electric fans, a trans cooler with 10in electric fan. And than i rebuilt the c6 with TCI master rebuild, red alto clutches and steels, hughes converter. I.m pretty sure i.m.missing some stuff. Lol but thats a big chunk of whats done.
@stevenmyers22522 жыл бұрын
@@jasonpoore7361 sounds like a great build. Sadly my truck will likely need other love and if it cost me 6k for the motor the other work would be years before it got done.
@jackflash63774 жыл бұрын
Nothing beats the sound of an FE block exhaust note. This video didn't do it justice.
@frigglebiscuit74844 жыл бұрын
idk, 440 mopars sound pretty evil too.
@jackflash63774 жыл бұрын
@@frigglebiscuit7484 My first car was a Charger with a 440 in it. Loved that car and that motor. Drove it for a few years and sold it to my boss who eventually killed himself in it by driving off the side of a mountain in the Ozarks.
@allenmckinney95334 жыл бұрын
It would've made sense to me to check for cracks before anything else after cleaning.
@leoa4c4 жыл бұрын
Definitely.
@daveh79454 жыл бұрын
they even said lesson learned about that
@sdvten4 жыл бұрын
They should have known that from all the other engines they sent off to the machine shop and have dealt with.
@axlegrind42124 жыл бұрын
you work in a machine shop and do that you get your ass eat out
@dannycreech41774 жыл бұрын
Standard procedure, and most definitely if it was siitin on the ground with no air breather and probably no pcv valve or oil breathers on the valve covers, come on boys!!?!🤭😆
@SirtubalotTX4 жыл бұрын
Moral of the story: When the block is washed, you might want to magna flux it right afterwards. ;) Great stuff as always.
@jimgould28294 жыл бұрын
The fierce look of Ford firepower in Pat's eyes 🤪🔥🙃
@uio8901382 жыл бұрын
So cool seeing y'all break down that engine and show us all the wear!! Most shows just skip this part, but true gear heads love this stuff! Too bad the block was no good.
@77fordhiboy4 жыл бұрын
I think Pat is the perfect fit for this show much more enjoyable to watch with him and man those are some great numbers for an ole FE
@Andrew-yh3zo4 жыл бұрын
Well done, you geniuses! I love watching you.
@alanhardman24474 жыл бұрын
One of your best episodes yet!
@cesarmagdaleno60094 жыл бұрын
I love these old Ford rebuilds. Naturally aspirated. My dad had a 390 in his F250 that was stollen from us. Broke his heart.
@Ra-ze4vy4 жыл бұрын
May be a logging chain Too the slab ....my friend. Kept his 289. Sprint _& S & W ...close NO drama just fact Ford guy ..s Fla..
@robertbeckler50584 жыл бұрын
Just got a Ford Ranger from 68. Supposedly it's a 390. It was a 360 originally. Got this truck from family was my grandpa's then dads then uncles then dads once more now mine. Still in damn good shape and runs. But 40 years ago I blew that original up. Now before I'm dead I am going to fix it up for my son's baby. Thanks for the vid
@kevinlesch96564 жыл бұрын
When you said 445 my first thought was Godzilla! But you beat that with the power you got. I believe new 7.3 is 430hp and round 475 in torque. Nicely done
@GoatPopsicle4 жыл бұрын
Man, I remember growing up watching the 1 guy on TV. Those shows started my path into becoming a specialized Fire Truck mechanic.
@karljay74734 жыл бұрын
I've had a few of these in trucks. I built mine back in 2000 and I don't remember having all those choices for stroker cranks and heads. I ended up with a 428 crank in a 360 60 over block, so it's .020 under a 428. They make unreal torque right out of the box. One thing about the FE and that heavy intake is that most people hate that, but it's actually an excellent design. The reason is that when you do an FE intake swap, you're changing more of the intake runner than with the BBC design. You look at the weight of the heads on a BBC, you see how nice it is to just change an intake and make that much difference.
@scottsoriero8377 Жыл бұрын
My brother and I rebuilt a 390 many moons ago in his 68 fastback to which we encountered cracks in the valve galley in the same spot as well as more cracks in the lower crank case using magna flux and a special light to see the cracks better. We didn't need the light the cracks were relatively large and yet did not leak. Strange thing was that when we used torque plates on both decks and torqued the main caps, the cracks closed up and were barely visible. moving forward I always magna flux first before any machine work begins. That clock became an anchor somewhere in the Hudson River LOL. We found a true replacement engine complete on City Island's junk yard in the Bronx and after a check with the block number and head casting numbers it was out of a 69 Mustang and was a true 428 SCJ engine! We paid $500 for the engine. We had the heads rebuilt to stock and then I realized that the motor may be valuable so i rebuilt it back to stock with all stock parts. I did balance the reciprocating assemble and blue print it. Then we went back to the Bronx and found another one still in the car, which was a wrecked 68 Shelby GT500KR with a 428 SCJ!!! The car was completely destroyed so all we could get was the engine tranny, and rear. Keep in mind this was 1984. I rebuilt the motor, replacing most of the parts like in this video. The only difference, was we went full MSD ignition. My brother took some of the body parts we saved from the wreck and after visiting many swap meets we we converted his car into a 68 Shelby replica. He wanted the dual carb package which i didn't like because they are a pain in the but to synch and jet correctly even on a dyno, but i did it. The Holley 850DP made more torque and slightly less HP. I like the torque better for off the line power and a much better idle on the single carb. Compromise. The engine made similar numbers on the dyno albeit slightly higher. LOL I am a Corvette guy and love them and when I raced that car at the track with my small block 75 Corvette, it destroyed me and my car ran a respectable 13.7et at 105 in the traps. His car ran L88 Corvette numbers in the low 11s. 11.2 at 122 in the traps and redlined he told me. We changed the rear gearing from 456:1 to 411:1 and it made negligible difference. The car still screamed to the redline with a higher trap speed, but slightly slower time. We then changed the 4spd top loader tranny's gearing because it was ridiculous and that was the secret sauce to getting that car to be a beast at the track, stop light, and making it very streetable. That 428 makes an amazing roar down the track. Not many big block V8's sound as good. (392/ 426 Hemi Chrysler sounds the best imo) One other note, with the 456:1 rear and original top loader, traction bars, and Mickey Thompson slicks, when launching the front wheels lifted slightly off the ground. After sitting in his garage for almost 10 years due to my brother being unable to drive because of a serious injury, he sold that car to his friend and told him to check everything especially the fuel lines before driving it. He didn't and while driving it home a fuel line ruptured on the NJ Turnpike burning the car to the ground. It was completely destroyed. He junked it and I tried to get that drive train, but someone else beat me too it. All good, had a great time and after that, have great respect for Ford power, back to my Corvettes. LOL
@Bloodcurling4 жыл бұрын
"They're the engineers"............I'm crying cause I finally heard a technician say it!
@billashe21084 жыл бұрын
I understand your feelings.
@lukecoomer93494 жыл бұрын
I mean, I'll trust an engineer on torque figures. Just don't let him design anything without adult supervision...
@billashe21084 жыл бұрын
@@lukecoomer9349 LOL!
@jasonsteelhorse4 жыл бұрын
We trust race engineers more than factory engineers. To many times having to remove six parts because one bolt is partially covered to trust the factory guys anymore.
@richb40993 жыл бұрын
When I was working in a machine/engine shop I called that.....strip,boil,mill square,bore, hone,wash,plug and cam bearing.......AND THROW OUT !!! Happened more than once.....freeze cracks usually. After one time when it took 3 engines just to get a usable block (Pontiac) I checked every block very carefully before any machine work.....and always tried to get a used but running engine that did not have water in the oil.....I rebuilt the 390 in my old Ford pickup......they were good engines....but the intake is a tank and the exhaust manifold bolts always broke trying to get them apart....rust.....For drag racing it was common to bolt a torque plate to the iron head. The end chamber valve seats could move when torqued on the engine.....428 CJ's.....same basic engine.....FE....
@paulne1514 Жыл бұрын
I’ve had cars with the FE block. 332,352,390 and 428. Except for the 428, all motors lasted over 200,000 miles. The 428, I am the 5th owner and it has a bad crank. My 390 came out of a 1967 country squire. That car was passed down since new. It was in 2 accidents before I got it. It had fords automatic reverse. If you left the car running in park, WITHOUT the parking brake engaged, it would shift itself into reverse, and find the nearest telephone pole! The first problem I had was on a trip, it started to run hot. This was from not being able to get gasoline with lead in it. Then after using a lead substitute, I had trouble getting the 99. Octane that Sunoco used to sell. Then I had to get octane boost. (60 cents a bottle). Then one day while driving, I heard a loud bang. Mechanic said the frame broke. The frame had been straightened twice before I got it. I saved the motor and C-6 trans. I was going to put them in My 66 T-bird, the one with the 428. Lost my job and the money I had for the car went to my mortgage payment. Never had a good paying job since, so the T-bird with the 428, the 390 and C-6 trans are still in the garage.
@jaxonmurray71183 жыл бұрын
I found all the timing sprocket teeth in my oil pan when I tore my 390 down. . Fun to watch thank you!
@Charlie_Prinz4 жыл бұрын
Love the FE content. Very cool !
@swampratt364 жыл бұрын
I can smell the Quaker state varnish from here in that old girl 🤣
@zuestoots51764 жыл бұрын
and now Quaker State and Penzoil are 2 of the best engine oils you can buy.
@TheLionAndTheLamb7774 жыл бұрын
@@zuestoots5176 Quaker State / Pennzoil is now owned by Shell which has always made good products.
@gerardomendoza96884 жыл бұрын
How do you know it's a girl 🤔?
@jonathansparks75584 жыл бұрын
ROFLMAO 🤣
@karlsracing84224 жыл бұрын
No valvoline vr-1 is the best.
@vwsandvettes32534 жыл бұрын
Man, I wish I had a shop full of high-tech machinery like you guys, and the know-how to use it!!!
@michaelcuff57804 жыл бұрын
My mom gave me a 1965 Mercury Montclair with a 390 in it when I was 14 yrs old. That old car kept me outta trouble for atleast 3 yrs that I had it.
@Bricklinsv19704 жыл бұрын
So basically the Original Engine was completely replaced lol!
@zuestoots51764 жыл бұрын
Every Junk Yard LS Build Ever. Its a junk yard ls making 900hp.......After a block from Texas Speed and 2 big ass turbo's
@BronsonOsborne4 жыл бұрын
the 445 is a great engine we are building one now for our drag car
@basshead.4 жыл бұрын
+Zues Toots The stock iron block LM7 5.3 can handle 900hp.
@merkleyperformance4 жыл бұрын
I believe they reused the lifter valley pan and the distributor hold down clamp. LOL
@BruceLee-xn3nn4 жыл бұрын
With another old fe block
@Joebauers25057 ай бұрын
That engine was fine, rebuild for a basic truck application and it would live a long life. Sad it probably got scrapped
@DallasRUSHian4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for showing the problems. Makes for real-world experience.
@josephcharrier55142 жыл бұрын
FORD the ONLY AMERICAN car company !!! It’s nice to see a carbureted engine .
@randr103 жыл бұрын
It's possible that that engine hasn't run since the '70s. I remember my grandfather telling me about engines using the old oils back in the '50s and early '60s after about 60k miles, he would tear them down and the entire valve cover would be just packed with material. It was impossible for any oil to really flow through it, which is why they would fail at such short mileage. He even remembered when he was young going to races way back in the day and the race cars would smell like a deep fryer because they used castor oil as lubricant. That's actually where the brand name Castrol comes from apparently. Oil tech has come a long way since then and it has just gotten better and better. You won't see sludge like that unless someone doesn't change the oil for 30k+ miles these days.
@brussell6394 жыл бұрын
My grandpa had a 390 in his '73 F100. I wanted to do something with that truck, but my cousin totaled it. Broke my heart.
@robertwest3093 Жыл бұрын
The advances made in automotive machining is impressive. Never would I have thought that you could do all the overboring with just a hone.
@clydebalcom82524 жыл бұрын
That engine is a dream. I love it.
@f688xt64 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this episode. 390's are cheap and need more love.
@stevenmyers22522 жыл бұрын
Cheap? Most blocks in my area are like 500-900 bucks and they cost a lot to rebuild.
@RegulerShowTV Жыл бұрын
I just had one built with a roller cam and the bill was over 10k, ain’t nothing cheap about getting good power outta these motors lol
@scottmcgregor27573 жыл бұрын
I get all tingly too over ford motors. Welcome to the club chevy guy
@telluride40174 жыл бұрын
You fellows put on a good show! Love watching you work
@bdtaylor19794 жыл бұрын
I think Pat needs more pens and screwdrivers in his shirt pocket 😂
@georgetinc95784 жыл бұрын
the sheer volume of bullshit in his pocket makes me wonder if it's just scripted in there, a pen and a screwdriver in single digits would suffice.
@indyrock81484 жыл бұрын
Now, does he have a pocket protector?
@johnasbach5774 жыл бұрын
@@indyrock8148 That's known as a "nerd pack"!
@kd5yut4 жыл бұрын
TV repairman
@n5ifi4 жыл бұрын
I love the FE's. They have a sound all their own. They never seem to make huge numbers but they must average better overall than other engines because always perform at the track.
@indyrock81484 жыл бұрын
There's more HP in it. See nosedive at 6000? Valve float?
@hotflashfoto3 жыл бұрын
In the late 70's I had a '64 Merc with a 390. I worked that poor thing into a grave. The valve would float around 6400 and make a "blort" sound. Some of my buddies had engines with 2" strokes, so the big V8 with a 4" stroke was moving the pistons the same distance as if their engines were turning 12,800. That engine made it to 180,ooo on the clock before it burned so much oil that I had to replace it. Hey, at least it cured the mosquito issue!
@jasmith18673 жыл бұрын
Sometimes that valve float is like a limiter to keep the rods from coming off.
@metalted6128 Жыл бұрын
Love the 390 fe!! Great motors!!
@1320win4 жыл бұрын
Nothing but FE's in all our trucks growing up. Nice to see them pull some good numbers. Expensive to build though... love them ol' iron FE's
@lonewolf19363 жыл бұрын
This was so pleasing to see. Thanks guys
@normsweet17104 жыл бұрын
I been a Chevy guy for ever....... that’s a great build for 4 door sled sleeper to street race with. hmmm fun ride for sure
@JP-vs1ys2 жыл бұрын
Please do more rebuilds of the old FE's. It's much more interesting than just crate engines.
@timsmith15894 жыл бұрын
That's a cool build for an old FE. it would look great in my 66 mercury M250
@EricEnterprises4 жыл бұрын
Just got a 390 from my dealership for free! super excited to see this video :D
@BReal-10EC4 жыл бұрын
The first engine I took apart and rebuilt was a 352 block FE 360 in the 73 F100 farm truck I got for $500. 3 on the tree, manual steering, manual brakes. A real Armstrong truck. I rebuilt it in the apartment parking lot. Note every single compression ring was cracked bu it ran fine, I just dug into the engine because of oil coming out the straight dual exhaust (two black cicles on the brick of the apartment where I started it every morning). These FE engines were really hard to kill, but also.. it was hard to rebuild imo. Oh, it it always got 10 mpg no matter what. Lol. Sounded amazing with the straight duals though. I couldn't find an affordable aftermarket intake back then (early 90s), so I reused the stock one. Big mistake. The emissions stuff in the 73 intake was a problem..
@Watchinchemtrailz4 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see this in my 68 galaxie!!!
@TheRoadhammer3794 жыл бұрын
Current prices for heads from TF, 2200/pair. Harland Sharp rockers, 940, intake is 549. Figure 4k for the top end, Eagle 445 stroker kit is 1800. You might build this engine for 8k but with carb, pushrods, cam etc, I imagine 9-10k is more realistic. Jegs has 460 crates, no intake or carb for 9800, 575/575 on power... just depends on your taste, FE or 485 series. I am a diehard FE fan, so it would be this setup for me
@JorgeRodriguez-po7kx3 жыл бұрын
The First Pull is Good Enough for Me
@mattf77534 жыл бұрын
This is the most informative auto channel, thank you!
@pauljanssen75942 жыл бұрын
Wow always bad enough looks first so you don't waste your time looks like the water froze in the block at one time I love how core plugs got changed in freeze plugs people actually thought the plugs would pop out when the water started to freeze but once the water freezes it ain't raining out it's already Frozen it just keeps expanding as temperature goes lower. I've built quite a few of these engines I love modifying them.
@JrZCarZ2 жыл бұрын
"Now why the hell would that be in the water jacket, it's a bumper bolt" 😄😄 This is giving me ideas for my 390 powered 69 Monterey 😊
@bellasteppars87724 жыл бұрын
I love the FE motors my father had a 390 built for an RV situation and I had an original 427 long block. I would love to see this motor go into a pick up truck maybe like a 66,65, or 64
@jerrycraig65222 жыл бұрын
THAT is a GREAT idea!!!
@bigredracer78484 жыл бұрын
I buzzed my 565 to 8600 and had no problem with piston speed and I did this over a 6-year period of drag racing over 900 passes a year
@williamtillman84894 жыл бұрын
I love those Fe motors grow up with them working on them had a sound man it would chill your blood or set it on fire 😄.
@billashe21084 жыл бұрын
@@bigboreracing356 302s are like a woman´s , You know, (down there), they split in two when You push them hard...
@dennisschmitter73104 жыл бұрын
This was a great informative vid. I would of liked to see the torque and power curve though. Those old FE's had tremendous potential for a low and broad torque curve!
@GL644 жыл бұрын
Good to see Pat still at it. He was my instructor at SAM
@waynebowman23153 жыл бұрын
Had the same problem once with a 428 fe build, absolutely a devastating blow to your rebuild expectations
@tonydowd85662 жыл бұрын
I put a 390 FE in my 69 f 250. It was a torque beast.
@mikesnyder64814 жыл бұрын
God how I would love to spend a day learning from Pat Topolinski, the man is such a wealth of knowledge.
@calevel4 жыл бұрын
No latex gloves for the old school guy 😄. I love your videos and content. Thumbs way up!!
@calevel4 жыл бұрын
Dolan Duck yes she is
@paulcochran37804 жыл бұрын
This was a golden opportunity to invest in a big bore aftermarket block! Still cool to see something the average joe can build
@eliasnuno40394 жыл бұрын
Favorite anytime program thanks 👍🔧
@thomashobsbawn29923 жыл бұрын
Sometimes you dont see cracks until you have cleaned it thoroughly, we had this happen on a ford tractor from the 40s
@douglassopa25443 жыл бұрын
shed make a damb good sled puller. nice to see a ford fe get those big rpms. enjoyed dis one,,
@rrmike192 жыл бұрын
They knew that blocked was cracked already. They did that on purpose to be a teaching moment. I can't believe anyone on here would fall for that!
@backyardbuilttrucks14 жыл бұрын
That old FE has had a hard life. I bet she been real hot. Been cool if had found a 410 Mercury FE engine.
@alanhardman24474 жыл бұрын
Backyard-Built-Trucks - The pistons are still available, as are the cranks, since they're the exact same crank as the 428. All other parts, including the cam are identical. Stuff it all in a 390 block, and your 410 Merc js authentic.
@ddfred2u4 жыл бұрын
@@Rick-S-6063 I had a 390 in my first Mustang; we put a 428 crank in it and made a 410. That block/crank combination, along with a nice Erson high lift cam reved faster than than a 428 and would flat out run away from them. I don't know what it is about that combination, but it works!
@sexame824 жыл бұрын
I just acquired a 67 merc with original 410 4v 428 crank rods and jewelry for a nominal price has the ford nine inch n third member. Just wondering how badass was the 410
@sexame824 жыл бұрын
330 hp 444 ft lbs torque in 67 it was 7.0 sec 0-60 115 mph in the quarter @ 13.64 in a barge weighing 4,444
@TheRoadhammer3794 жыл бұрын
@@ddfred2u, I have built four 410s over the years for a few Highboy trucks, and you ain't lying, 410 is a stout combo
@powerbronco47833 жыл бұрын
I have a 69 390 FE in my 1960 Ford Thunderbird, it came from the factory with a 430 in it but that was blown up over 40 years ago, the 390 does the job but it would be great to find another 430 to put back in
@davidthompson2454 жыл бұрын
Another great vid for our entertainment!!. Cheers power nation.
@johnnyg75254 жыл бұрын
That's a bummer about the original block. But I loved this episode. I hope yall use this motor in a future early 70's ford truck build. Good job !
@titanary682 жыл бұрын
Really REALLY want you guys to bring this build back and test different styles of EFI induction. I built this damn near exact combo but I had the heads ported and polished and changed the valves. I’m also running a Holly efi set up but I’m looking to fabricate a sheet metal intake for a throttle body and run two injectors per cylinder as I’m leaning toward some form of forced induction, most likely a ProCharger. Running this almost exact set up in my 70’s grand marquis’s on 26’s lol I hit it with a 200 shot and dyno’d at 776hp and 881tq. If y’all can please bring this motor back.
@csmall7884 жыл бұрын
I could never afford one, but that is my dream engine. I’m a real beginner and I’m having a real hard time getting the 352 in my grandpas old 66 f100 going and back on the road
@acemancparke3 жыл бұрын
Let's be honest, that is now a completely different engine and not a rebuild but still enjoyed watching it.
@focus82grothm4 жыл бұрын
Sad too see the original block had cracks in it. But great to see a upgraded Ford FE in action and those big inlet valves, wow.
@randomprojectsusa51964 жыл бұрын
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@BreastMilkBandit4 жыл бұрын
😂
@77nizzova534 жыл бұрын
I really like the build!!!!!
@LL-fi4rr4 жыл бұрын
**Generic rep pretending to be a reviewer**: "They just sent me a portable battery so let's open this box and see what's inside." **Me**: Probably a portable battery if I had to guess. 🤔
@ChrisMFlorida4 жыл бұрын
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@phantom6294 жыл бұрын
Stuff the tomato up your butt the battery too. Really a friggen commercial in the middle of a dyno run!!! Greedy bastards at youtube, I'll bet the creators arent getting paid
@bobbobby57244 жыл бұрын
You guys are masters.
@permafrost20644 жыл бұрын
I think Mike should be the one doing the pulls, Pat looks super pissed at the helm 😂
@davenelson15714 жыл бұрын
Yeah Amish Mike does look happy when pushing the joystick
@billsmusic49444 жыл бұрын
I'm a Chevy guy and I want this in an old Torino. Bad Ass.