Expert Sleepers ES 8 Bitwig Edition

[@PylonRecordsdotcom]

Do you notice dirty audio when using the ADAT in and out with USB connected to the computer. I am using another converter that has ADAT in and out connected to the ES-8 and ES-8 connected to computer, when the audio is captured via ADAT into the DAW it sounds a bit dirty thin? Is the ES-8 able to pass clean audio from the ADAT in and outs via class compliant USB? You have lot of synths so I am sure you have tested this ? Thank you!!

[@mossgraber]

Did not notice any noisy or distorted audio with the ES-8. I also use the USB from time to time and so far no issues.

[@Dogboy73]

Good video. Looking to buy an ES-8 to use with Propellerhead Reason & modular gear. Never seen anyone using this kind of set-up but I imagine it would work somewhat similar to your set-up.

[@Dogboy73]

...... sounds like it's a bit of a shit show on Windows with ASIO4ALL route. If you can use the ADAT i/o then all good by the sounds of it.

[@eliasandersson1254]

Do you need Bitwig to get this work or can i use for example FLStudio?

[@mossgraber]

It works with every software that can generate CV values. E.g. Ableton added such devices as well. Not sure about FLStudio but I think they have something similar. Expert Sleepers has also a device which can do this.

[@wimwijn1]

thanks for this video, if I may ask, if I connect the es8 via adat to my audio interface, (for example presonus 1810c), do I need my daw, or does the audio from the es8 comes out straight through the audio interface to my mixer/speakers, thx

[@mossgraber]

That depends on if your audio device works without a computer, so if you hear audio from the other inputs you should also get the audio via the ES8.

[@wimwijn1]

@@mossgraber Oke, thanks, that should work

[@WannesHaxyl]

Hello Jürgen, will this module perfectly work via ADAT on my Scarlett 18i20? It isn't DC coupled but it does have ADAT in/out.

[@mossgraber]

I have no experience with the device but I use it in such a configuration with my Steinberg UR824.

[@amadeuspaulussen]

Great video! Got an ES-8 a few days before Bitwig announced the branded version. Too bad. ;) But nonetheless, I love the original ES-8 just the same (almost the same, I guess). :)

[@wyromusic1937]

Thanks for this tutorial, it helped a lot (and also thanks a lot for the push extension)! Do you mind if I ask if you are sending any clock signals from bitwig to your modules via bitwig's "hw clock out"? It seems like it doesnt work for me or maybe I am missing something... and I really want to go and make some funky music ))

[@mossgraber]

Just did a test: Add a "HW CV OUT" module and send it to an output of ES-8. Then insert a "Beat LFO" into one of the modulation slots of the "HW CV OUT". Move the SHAPE parameter fully to the right and map the LFO to the CV output value.

[@wyromusic1937]

thank you!

[@528hzaudio6]

The reason to purchase this unit is to take advantage of dc coupled, why just 4 dc coupled inputs only, anyway to expand the inputs on the ES-8 it's not other choice than add a interface and had to be dc coupled hard to find Thanks for the video, I can see the advantage to play from the computer to use the external modules with the ES-8

[@RunGuitarMan]

Hi, bro. This extension is awesome! Can you give me older version of DrivenByMoss for Bitwig Studio 2.2.2? I can't find it anywhere.

[@deastman2]

I was a little confused by your audio setup. Are you not actually connecting the ES-8 to Bitwig over USB? If I follow correctly, you are using your Yamaha audio interface connected to the computer, and using its dual ADAT in and out ports to send to/from the ES-8 and the Behringer preamp? So you're effectively using the ES-8 like a combination ES-3/ES-6 instead of as a USB audio interface?

[@mossgraber]

Yes, that is correct. In my studio I use a Steinberg UR824, which has 2 ADAT ins and outs (this is the setup I used for the demo in the video). To the first I have connected a Behringer ADA8200 und to the second the ES-8. The USB is not required for this setup. So, if this is the (only) setup you are after the ES-3 would be a cheaper alternative. But when I am not in the studio (e.g. on stage) I use the ES-8 with USB and don't have to bring another audio interface.

[@mossgraber]

... and the Bitwig demo would look the same if done via USB.

[@deastman2]

Jürgen Moßgraber Thanks for clarifying that. I actually already have an ES-8, ES-3, and ES-6. I thought the ES-8 would simplify things, but in order to monitor audio out of my DAW, I need to use another audio interface. ASIO4All doesn’t seem to work very well with my iConnectivity interface... lots of glitching. It doesn’t have an ADAT interface on it, unfortunately. I used to use a FireWire MOTU 828mkII, but no FireWire on laptops anymore. I guess I should upgrade to something like an 828es, which has dual ADAT interfaces like your Steinberg. Probably the most sensible approach. Thanks again for your insight!

[@ExpertSleepersLtd]

Why can't you monitor the DAW audio through the ES-8? Just ran out of channels?

[@deastman2]

Expert Sleepers Well, that would require additional dedicated modular infrastructure in the form of a stereo headphone amp with level control and dual VCA, mixer, or similar to go to my monitors. Plus mic preamps with phantom power and 1/4” inputs with gain controls and metering for other instruments. You know, the sort of functionality normally provided by an audio interface. Anyway, I’ve gone ahead with a MOTU 828es to use in conjunction with my ES modules, so... problem solved!

[@gudmundurThor96Nr2]

What does HP stand for? Horse Power XD

[@mossgraber]

HP = horizontal pitch, 1 HP = 5.08 mm or 1/5 inch or 1/5", see www.doepfer.de/a100_man/a100m_e.htm

[@chris5375]

You can buy a cheap Behringer UMC 1820 Audiointerface and connect it to the ES 8, should work fine :-)